Andy, thank you so much for your well thought out video. I have trained dogs for 67 years, and close to 40 different breeds with some hybrids mixed in. This is my first Malinios. I started at the age of ten with my 1st dog training of basic obedience and lots of tricks. In my later years, my training progressed to Schutzhund training. My 1st Schh III dog was a Lab X Doberman. She was 85 lbs and lived to be 14&1/2 years old. She was the finest example of hybrid-vigor. She was the 1st and only mix-breed to be Runner-up at the Southeast Regional Schutzhund Championship. I can truly say that she was my dog of a lifetime. I’ve trained German Shepherds, Dobermans and Collies since then. Now I have a Mal, and she is fantastic. I really like your training and am so glad that I found your videos. Thank you so much for making them available.
Two years late to the party 😔 46 years with GSD's and 25 yrs with English Springer Spaniels (and a few rescue x breeds) I started this about a year in with my very first dog. For the dogs health and safety and as additional training time. I know GSD's who have suffered stomach torsions from twisting violently to grab a high bouncing ball whilst running at full throttle. I have witnessed one Springer spaniel impale themselves in the chest whilst trying to grab a thrown stick as it bounced end to end, and another knock out an incisor and cinine whilst trying to scoop up a moving ball on hard gravely ground. Not to mention broken and ripped claws on dogs that are skidding to a halt. So glad that you use your profile to bring this to the attention of those who don't know. All my dogs are my fur kids, as their daddy handler I am responsible for their health and safety, it is for me to keep them safe from dangers they don't comprehend.
I have a puppy malinois and it is the second time that he is limping after playing fetch, so in my experience this is very true! I will replace fetch with these exercises from now on! Thank you so much for this video!
i learned the hard way Andy . my 4 year old female Mal was a disc monster and i loved playing with her . after literally thousands of throws I injured her spine on a short throw in my front yard . I never heard her scream like that I felt absolutely terrible. After rehab for a couple of months she is recovered. Thank you for a great video to motivate me to change our games . again I never really thought it would happen to her but it did and it was horrible.
I totally agree with you on playing fetch with the ball. My GSD is 6 an loves to for me to throw the ball, however I've seen her stumble, twist an even fall trying to get it. I'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE not having any injuries. Tomorrow I'm changing it up . I see more benefits in doing it this way. A lot less chance of injury, more personal engagement between me an my dog an much needed exercise for me. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge an experience with us Andy. 🐾
Well my first malinois pierced her throat, caching up with a stick. I went to the vet, and there was nothing to see. We went mountain biking, swimming, many activities the coming month... The dog was a bit out of it, so after a month during an operation they pulled out a stick the size of a pinkie that was through her throat. Only balls after that! These dogs are too hard for there own good, and they wint tell you there hurt!
I took a dog training course and took my dogs to training. I also study dogs/behavior, etc and enjoy watching these videos. I REALLY want to be able to train like that! My timing sucks!
I found my forever dog training channel. Heading to patreon. Sooo much noise on yt around training. This is the most informative and succinct content I've seen.
This is so important! Our dog has suffered physically in his adult years in part from our playing fetch with our very intense Rottie. It all seemed so harmless and fun to watch his amazing athletism and drive. We feel terrible that we did this to our dog- unknowingly. We will never do this again in the same way and have changed our play/training with him and our other dogs.
100% agree with the entirety of this video! I have an 11 month old who Ive been playing/training fetch with for 8 months and Ive noticed him limping or hurt someway a few times already. This all makes sense, def not doing fetch anymore! Thanks Andy! Once again you provide priceless insight =)
So happy I seen this video. Just got my boy home yesterday from top breeder in the country and this is exactly what was happening. Just doing flips bec he couldn’t control him self… Going to be starting this tomorrow. 🤝🏽
This is an awesome video. I only wish I had known this information before my Belgium Malinois hurt her hips, jumping for a tennis ball. I will never make that mistake again. I hope everyone takes this advice and keeps their K9 healthy.
I can see how that keeps him from getting hurt. Very good 👍🏻 Oh, 😮that recall is awesome. I need to teach that to my Malinois he's 12 weeks old. His mother is a Magnum Belgian mal. So my Jax is super fast.
Hey Andy, couldn't agree more!! Question. I used to live by the ocean. I used to play fetch with an inflatable toy and also tow one behind a canoe. My working sheppard got so muscley and fit from it I thought it was really good for him. Thoughts? Thanks fo the best you tube channel!
Never thought about the risk of injury, but, I can definitely see the potential. My GSD loves playing fetch and my 5 month pup loves chasing her and often crashes into her, furthering the chance of injury. Dam, I need to change up my game! Thanks Andy.
I just wanted to add that it isn't always catastrophic injuries. My dog loves fetch (frisbee) and is INTENSE! Now at age 3 we are dealing with bicipital tendonopathy, essentially tendonitis in his shoulder that will require 8-12 weeks of exercise restriction followed by months of rehab to heal. (Not easy for a super active dog) Wish I had seen this video earlier. Wish there were more videos out there on how to work dogs without causing damage!! Thank you for demonstrating a safer fetch alternative!
Thirst time post. Awesome instruction/information that I will implement. I will be getting a Malinois in the next 6-12 months and so excited. Just one constructive criticism...you speak of "animal cruelty" from 1700 to 2200 and I absolutely agree but just a bit long. Keep posting!
Hi. I Appreciate this informational piece about fetch and the dangers of possible injury to a dog. Your method of fetch makes the dog get his exercise without jumping. Thank you.
Interesting, at first I thought you were being silly, but after reading people's testimony of this I realized why my 6 month old GSD hasn't gotten hurt: when I throw the ball it bounces off a know barrier so it's always generally in the same area, he slows down to get it 🤔 and when I throw it in an open field, my dog slows down to search for it which is interesting as that definitely explains why he hasn't been injured. Thanks.
I needed this video! Thank you! I have a 1 year old female rottweiler and she is insanely high drive and very fast and 90 lbs. I changed our play time based on this video. What do you call the bag you are using in this video?
Great video Andy. Training is also managing risks! Will try aiming for you technique of placing the Tug at a distance and getting my Mal to fecth....key point we place the tug together so she knows walking back her awesome tug is there...release and got get the tug!
I have a working German Shepherd. She hits the ground HARD when she gets the ball. And she's not a malinois, skinny little guys. She's a thick, chunky German Shepherd and I am always scared she will seriously hurt herself. Maybe I'll try this technique, thanks!
Andy...this is great food for thought. I'm trying this in my training. May I ask what command in French are you using to send Jasper to go for his tug...I can't quite understand what your saying. I'm training my 2 girls in French also.
🤣😂🤣. You’re the man Andy I’m disappointed you didn’t bring up my comment, about stimulating the dogs brain and using its nose to search. Yes your dog was definitely playing fetch getting the tugs, he’s a good looking boy bro. If my dog got hurt you better believe I’d feel, they’re taking care of and eat better than most dogs I know. If my dogs hurt I’m hurt worse. I’ll also go out to my field and hide balls so the dogs can get warmed up and go search for the balls before we begin tossing, I understand your point and if I had a wreck less dog willing to break it’s neck to get the ball I’d stop, but I haven’t ran into that problem. My dogs are smart we train for psa. Good luck to buddy keep up the great videos.
Really appreciate you taking the time to make this content, I've learnt a lot from your vids! Would love to see two future vids: One about your dogs' relationship with your kid and how you made sure there's no risk given their bouncy energy? The second about some basic tug toy techniques like when you tap and when you stroke the dog and the thought process behind this. Many thanks and look forward to your future content.
Awesome video!! Looking forward for a third part. Generalization on the send away (location, tug placement...) that would be great!! Just an idea 😉. As somebody said our limitation is due to constipation of imagination! Great way to incorprate training, play, relation building... In one sesion.
You can do a variant of this exercise by setting up a basic fly ball style run. Place 4 Low jumps at 10 ft intervals & place the reward toy on a cardboard box 15 ft from the last jump ☺️ 🐾🐾
Watched your video from Northern Ireland 🇮🇪 😀 love watching your dogs and training your explanation of dangerous fetch was brilliant. I have a working cocker she is fast I now see and understand what you are saying. I will try this
Thank you for replying, brilliant dogs 🐕 she is a welsh working cocker work cut out for me very busy breed she is a year old 😀. Keep sending those brilliant videos oh by the way have you ever trained this breed take care
Just a great video. Spectacular dog, great training; and, just as important, all your reasons for the training made perfect sense. Getting a working lines GSD this year and based upon your advice I'm changing what I did with my last GSD to incorporate your advice. Thanks.
It really depends on the breed as you sad on the biggening. Of course with a lightning fast and tall dog this is a risk. Thankfully my fog is at about ground level by default and he is not nearly fast enough. However I will try this thing just for as something different I might end up liking it.
Im a huge fan of you buudy! your content is creative fun and educational! its really an honor that I got you by my side!! Id love to show us some bungee work and some control work when decoys are out! it would be really fun seeing you guys working on those things! Great level of work!
Andy you convinced me, since the first video; I've been throwing the ball, hitting my chest, and when my dog jumps up I catch him and then I run to the ball. That's a workout.
I’ve been watching your vids for a while. great job your videos are making me less nervous to get a malinois. Also do you have any training tips for me?
Another thing I wanted to afk. Are the commands you use in German or Belgian. Snd is that standard for all dogs or just GSD’s and Mals?? Thsnk you again ❤
I'm struggling with this a bit because my high energy Mal girl is a blazing-fast super-jockette. I have just a normal city lot. A large dog park is a 10 minute walk away, so that's where we go. A typical fetch session is 15 to 20 launcher throws of 100-ish yards at our local dog park, usually a pitch count of 15. She LOVES these sessions. Maybe 5 days a week. She's super fast and fit. Then 3 or so sessions of frisbee catch fetch, each day in my front yard, which she also LOVES. Maybe 20 yards out most throws, and she catches it in the air. Usually about 10 minutes per session or until first time she decides to lay down on the job then I end the session. In the frisbee catch, she also has to avoid obstacles and is showing excellent judgment and body control, i.e., she doesn't run into the neighbor's fence or the housemate's jeep in the driveway. So I'm torn on how to get her the amount of intense physical exercise and work she needs. Flirt poles help, I built her some special extra-heavy-duty ones, and she loves to swim and do pool fetch, where there is zero possibility of injury. Maybe I just need to be more committed about running with her. Slow human, I "run", she trot-walks. I'll ask the trainer I'll be working with shortly. He trains Malinois drug detection dogs, among other Malinois expertise.
Great Contents with practical and useful info!!! TOP I used to fetch the to my Maligator and it hit a light post on the run to the ball 🤦♂️ Had some issues with the tendons because of the quick sprints and "brakes"... Stopped that. Se now we run together several times a week at the same Pace and my girl is perfectly well 👌💪 Thanks and Hello from Portugal
My Mal absolutely loves fetch, wakes me up at 3 or 4 to play lol but I understand what you’re saying. I have put a lot of mental stimulation into Maya’s fetch and I’ll add theses tools for further play and training.
Hi Andy. Firstly how old this crazy athlete called Jasper. He is gorgeous. How old is too old to start training this way my dog is almost 8 I’m older and not as mobile I’d like to be due to a malfunction of a spinal surgery 😢 but I do ehat I can. I encourage my boy to find his toys around the yard. He leaves them laying around snd I ask him to find it. Then he chooses which one we will play with. But after a few minutes he just goes to his bed snd plays chewy on his toy. I’d like him to have more exercise so what can I do to encourage That. Thsnk you for your videos bi love to watch you at work either your Mal ❤️❤️
I've had to control fetch for my last two dogs the last 15 years or so to keep them from killing themselves. The female I have now I have taught a whoa, before she gets to the toy . I like the barrier idea, but we travel a lot and I'm not sure she's smart enough to stop when her brain isn't on. She's a great old mans dog, but she's not the brightest bulb on the chain of lights. If you aren't worried about your dog getting hurt you haven't trained long enough.
Yes, I have a working line German Shepard. We play a lot of Frizbee. He flies through the air and I do for it is his favorite thing. Done it for years but just ran into an issue with his shoulder. Think it might be what you are talking about.
Question, completely off topic but,could you please answer or make a video on the subject. How do you address “Whining” ? I have a 2yo Corso/Rottie mix , he is very well behaved and does almost all that is asked of him. But if it is something that he doesn’t want to do he will whine about it before, and during that task. Example; ask him to sit/stay at door before we leave, and the whining starts as soon as he’s asked to sit and doesn’t stop till I break him. Example #2; while walking if I notice another dog approaching I call him to heel, as soon as he notices the other dog the whining starts. He will remain at a heel and continue walking with me, even if the other dog is aggressively barking/growling & lunging at us, but he’s doing so while whining. Example #3 and the worst; While preparing his breakfast and dinner, he is asked to place and down in our living room while his meals are prepared in our kitchen. He does place/down/stay perfectly but he does so with whining. I must mention that his whining is extremely high pitched and loud . During his meal times I have tried waiting him out before I break to eat, the first 2 times that took about 40 minutes. The next 2 times I stood there for more than an hour until my head and ears were exploding. And the rest of the evening I was laying down with my eyes closed and my head throbbing. Please help!
Good info. If the dog is properly warmed up then fetch is ok. Dogs are athletes so proper warmed up will help their muscles. I do a lot of activity for my dog but i don't have a malinios. I have a Labrador that I use for waterfowl hunting. We teach similar concepts for hunting and hunt test. We have a thing we call blind pile where we send the dog to the pile but they don't see the pile or how far we go. Once they know where the pile is then it is a pattern blind. Very similar but we always starts with thrown training dummy to teach concepts of seeing where the dummy land so they can hunt the area or go to where they saw the dummy fall.
I have a doberman puppy 5 months old and I NEVER even considered him getting hurt playing fetch! Bad Owner! I will make some changes ASAP. I also subscribe to your patreon. Many thanks Andy for the education
Very true These types of high drive dogs will push themselves to the point of injury during play, training or real protection. Any injury may take your dog out of training or competition for a month if not the rest of their lives. Anything we can do to reduce or eliminate injuries is our responsibility.
I’m diligently doing my homework on this breed & the more I read & watch about them the more I realise that my job is the main problem. I have spanners, a Springer & two cockers. They are working dogs & they are also my pets. They come everywhere with me. I’m an active person which keeps them super chilled, however, my job as a Gardner means that my clients love seeing & playing with the “girls”. Young & old they play & pet them fetch being the one thing that clients that are parents love as the kids fuss & play fetch with them. I encourage the kids to play hide & seek with the ball but my elderly clients love to sit down in their gardens petting them & playing fetch. I’m not always able to keep an eye but the “girls” know that they stay away from machines & sort of entertain themselves. This I find is the issue with the malinois breed. I work by myself so up ladders where I’m busy with hedges & trees I’m busy for hours & can’t be seen to spend my clients time to train my dogs. The spanners have always had an older dog to play with & they don’t really bugger off, I feel that not being able to be 100% an eye on bad behaviours & nip them in the bud as & when I see it. The “girls” are high drive but with constant guidance they are gentle & respectful of humans young & old but feel the Malinois will be a more difficult breed for my work. The girls are not prey drive more seek I’ve done a lot of work with them around cats, small furry pets, squirrels & anything else that runs away & it’s paid off. They do well working in their domain but I think the prey drive in the malinois is going to be a whole different kettle of fish. Again, I’m a really active person & love working with my dogs, they are rarely left at home alone, it’s mainly when the weather is so hot & we need to go to the shops or I’ve got to finish an afternoon off at work so they have a splash before they settle down for the afternoon. Maximum is four hours, I feel that would be too much for the BM.
I never thought about this - thank you for posing that kind of question. I just got around to having the perfect fetch with my dog, even got a chuck-it, and I didn't consider the physical consequence with my dog. Especially since we HAVE a fence. My dog is /so/ fast. She will tear actual dirt and grass with her kind of momentum (32lb pitbull/chihuahua and VERY athletic). I'm going to start teaching her this instead.
@@ib1ray She kinda just looks like an oversized Chihuahua that didn't skip leg day 😂 Very sweet lap dog, but can flip a switch and be very confident and athletic. The most perfect mutt I've ever had, honestly!
@AndyKrueger - Why does Jasper let go of the pull toy when you call his name? Is this a form of "let go?" Do you only call his name when using the tug toy, so that he will let go?
Ok cool I got him to slow down as he’s picking up the tug. How do I get him to slow down as he’s bringing it back to me!? Lol I taught my dog to do what Jasper does on recall, goes through your legs then comes back out your legs again. I had to do away with that though because l had a bad experience. Let’s just say that my Mal is pretty tall and he didn’t clear his head all the way as he was going through my legs!! Am I supposed to be wearing a cup?! Lol I just have him go around me now.
I don't play fetch. My dog just runs away with it and chews on it, but if I place it in a ground with out her looking then give her the command "find it". She looks for it and gets it, but always brings it back for more.... Why do you think that is? same ball and everything.
@@cretudavid8622 training doesn’t make the dog make whining sounds…my mal isn’t trained this good and she does it all the time. It just happens when they get excited
Hey Andy another great video ! Do you have a recommended training order for pups? I know it takes time and different training sessions just thinking work on xy first then progress to z ?
Thanks! Engagement, hand feeding and play are always NUMBER 1 in any/ all environments. You have to be the most important/ interesting thing to your pup anywhere and everywhere! Don’t move on until you have that 🙏🏼
Jasper is really a talkative vocal guy isnt he? Just like my dog... sometimes its getting anoying man hahahaha. The drive inside them are telling them GO ATTACK YEAH GO GET IT FULL SPEED FULL THROTTLE
@@AndyKrueger There's such a thing as a blown rotator cuff. Strangely, using the launcher with my dog seems to have strengthened the shoulder to where I can at least throw a little now.
We’re currently doing some research before keeping a stray Belgian malinois puppy we found and we want to know what types of activities we can do everyday in our backyard. So, I understand that playing fetch is a no-no. But is fetch similar to playing frisbee? We’ve seen a lot of videos with Belgian malinois playing frisbee. Would that be safe for them?
Frisbee is the most dangerous activity you can do. I’d strongly recommend finding a local credible trainer you can work with weekly for at least a few months. You need to master the basics in obedience first and foremost 👍🏻
Oh yes, my Mal girl has the same white "cross" blaze on her chest as this dog and also Freddy. So maybe they even have some ancestors in common. As I mentioned, she is a super high energy lightning fast jockette. She's always bugging me to do active high intensity play with her.
Andy, thank you so much for your well thought out video. I have trained dogs for 67 years, and close to 40 different breeds with some hybrids mixed in. This is my first Malinios. I started at the age of ten with my 1st dog training of basic obedience and lots of tricks. In my later years, my training progressed to Schutzhund training. My 1st Schh III dog was a Lab X Doberman. She was 85 lbs and lived to be 14&1/2 years old. She was the finest example of hybrid-vigor. She was the 1st and only mix-breed to be Runner-up at the Southeast Regional Schutzhund Championship. I can truly say that she was my dog of a lifetime.
I’ve trained German Shepherds, Dobermans and Collies since then. Now I have a Mal, and she is fantastic.
I really like your training and am so glad that I found your videos.
Thank you so much for making them available.
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Two years late to the party 😔
46 years with GSD's and 25 yrs with English Springer Spaniels (and a few rescue x breeds)
I started this about a year in with my very first dog. For the dogs health and safety and as additional training time.
I know GSD's who have suffered stomach torsions from twisting violently to grab a high bouncing ball whilst running at full throttle.
I have witnessed one Springer spaniel impale themselves in the chest whilst trying to grab a thrown stick as it bounced end to end, and another knock out an incisor and cinine whilst trying to scoop up a moving ball on hard gravely ground. Not to mention broken and ripped claws on dogs that are skidding to a halt.
So glad that you use your profile to bring this to the attention of those who don't know. All my dogs are my fur kids, as their daddy handler I am responsible for their health and safety, it is for me to keep them safe from dangers they don't comprehend.
I have a puppy malinois and it is the second time that he is limping after playing fetch, so in my experience this is very true! I will replace fetch with these exercises from now on! Thank you so much for this video!
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i learned the hard way Andy . my 4 year old female Mal was a disc monster and i loved playing with her . after literally thousands of throws I injured her spine on a short throw in my front yard . I never heard her scream like that I felt absolutely terrible. After rehab for a couple of months she is recovered. Thank you for a great video to motivate me to change our games . again I never really thought it would happen to her but it did and it was horrible.
As an owner of a stupid fast dog, this video was educational.
Sensing and Protecting, you from unexpected danger a stupid? Bringing you pride behaving disciplined, stupid?
I totally agree with you on playing fetch with the ball. My GSD is 6 an loves to for me to throw the ball, however I've seen her stumble, twist an even fall trying to get it. I'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE not having any injuries. Tomorrow I'm changing it up . I see more benefits in doing it this way. A lot less chance of injury, more personal engagement between me an my dog an much needed exercise for me. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge an experience with us Andy. 🐾
No injuries that you know of. I believe a lot can go unnoticed to the naked eye!
Thanks so much for watching and you are welcome! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@AndyKrueger very true. Thanks for adding that.
Well my first malinois pierced her throat, caching up with a stick. I went to the vet, and there was nothing to see. We went mountain biking, swimming, many activities the coming month... The dog was a bit out of it, so after a month during an operation they pulled out a stick the size of a pinkie that was through her throat.
Only balls after that!
These dogs are too hard for there own good, and they wint tell you there hurt!
I took a dog training course and took my dogs to training. I also study dogs/behavior, etc and enjoy watching these videos. I REALLY want to be able to train like that! My timing sucks!
I found my forever dog training channel. Heading to patreon.
Sooo much noise on yt around training. This is the most informative and succinct content I've seen.
This is so important! Our dog has suffered physically in his adult years in part from our playing fetch with our very intense Rottie. It all seemed so harmless and fun to watch his amazing athletism and drive. We feel terrible that we did this to our dog- unknowingly. We will never do this again in the same way and have changed our play/training with him and our other dogs.
That looks a total blast! Thanks, going to incorporate this in my training .. loved it
The fun thing about haters is they still generate views, no such thing as bad pr!
Great video as always Andy!
Totally agree!! 🙏🏼
100% agree with the entirety of this video! I have an 11 month old who Ive been playing/training fetch with for 8 months and Ive noticed him limping or hurt someway a few times already. This all makes sense, def not doing fetch anymore! Thanks Andy! Once again you provide priceless insight =)
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True you make perfect sense thank you
Another great one by you andy! I was wondering if in the future you would mind making a video on utilization of whistle and how you teach it?
Great idea!
So happy I seen this video. Just got my boy home yesterday from top breeder in the country and this is exactly what was happening. Just doing flips bec he couldn’t control him self… Going to be starting this tomorrow. 🤝🏽
This is an awesome video. I only wish I had known this information before my Belgium Malinois hurt her hips, jumping for a tennis ball.
I will never make that mistake again. I hope everyone takes this advice and keeps their K9 healthy.
I am so glad I ran into your channel I have never seen you before Thanks for all the advice
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? If I may ask what do you charge for your training
@@leonardoaruca1 My Patreon is the best source. Patreon.com/andykrueger
I’m not currently accepting new clients besides virtually 🙏🏼
Andy...you are the GOD of trainers!
Brilliant. He is such a beautiful dog.
Thank you
I can see how that keeps him from getting hurt. Very good 👍🏻 Oh, 😮that recall is awesome. I need to teach that to my Malinois he's 12 weeks old. His mother is a Magnum Belgian mal. So my Jax is super fast.
Hey Andy, couldn't agree more!! Question. I used to live by the ocean. I used to play fetch with an inflatable toy and also tow one behind a canoe. My working sheppard got so muscley and fit from it I thought it was really good for him. Thoughts? Thanks fo the best you tube channel!
Never thought about the risk of injury, but, I can definitely see the potential. My GSD loves playing fetch and my 5 month pup loves chasing her and often crashes into her, furthering the chance of injury. Dam, I need to change up my game! Thanks Andy.
Thanks for watching! 🙌🏻
Agreed all day long, amazing video 🦾
I just wanted to add that it isn't always catastrophic injuries. My dog loves fetch (frisbee) and is INTENSE! Now at age 3 we are dealing with bicipital tendonopathy, essentially tendonitis in his shoulder that will require 8-12 weeks of exercise restriction followed by months of rehab to heal. (Not easy for a super active dog) Wish I had seen this video earlier. Wish there were more videos out there on how to work dogs without causing damage!! Thank you for demonstrating a safer fetch alternative!
Thirst time post. Awesome instruction/information that I will implement. I will be getting a Malinois in the next 6-12 months and so excited. Just one constructive criticism...you speak of "animal cruelty" from 1700 to 2200 and I absolutely agree but just a bit long. Keep posting!
Hi. I Appreciate this informational piece about fetch and the dangers of possible injury to a dog. Your method of fetch makes the dog get his exercise without jumping. Thank you.
Yes! Thanks for watching 🙏🏼
Interesting, at first I thought you were being silly, but after reading people's testimony of this I realized why my 6 month old GSD hasn't gotten hurt: when I throw the ball it bounces off a know barrier so it's always generally in the same area, he slows down to get it 🤔 and when I throw it in an open field, my dog slows down to search for it which is interesting as that definitely explains why he hasn't been injured. Thanks.
I needed this video! Thank you!
I have a 1 year old female rottweiler and she is insanely high drive and very fast and 90 lbs.
I changed our play time based on this video.
What do you call the bag you are using in this video?
That dog worth every second Of training !! high quality trainer great vid keep up the good work . . Fully enjoyed it 👍
Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Great video Andy. Training is also managing risks! Will try aiming for you technique of placing the Tug at a distance and getting my Mal to fecth....key point we place the tug together so she knows walking back her awesome tug is there...release and got get the tug!
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man this is perfect for me after a meal..get to get my steps in lol ..Cant wait til im able to get me a Belgie
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I have a working German Shepherd. She hits the ground HARD when she gets the ball. And she's not a malinois, skinny little guys. She's a thick, chunky German Shepherd and I am always scared she will seriously hurt herself. Maybe I'll try this technique, thanks!
Skinny little guys lol
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Andy...this is great food for thought. I'm trying this in my training. May I ask what command in French are you using to send Jasper to go for his tug...I can't quite understand what your saying. I'm training my 2 girls in French also.
🤣😂🤣. You’re the man Andy I’m disappointed you didn’t bring up my comment, about stimulating the dogs brain and using its nose to search. Yes your dog was definitely playing fetch getting the tugs, he’s a good looking boy bro. If my dog got hurt you better believe I’d feel, they’re taking care of and eat better than most dogs I know. If my dogs hurt I’m hurt worse. I’ll also go out to my field and hide balls so the dogs can get warmed up and go search for the balls before we begin tossing, I understand your point and if I had a wreck less dog willing to break it’s neck to get the ball I’d stop, but I haven’t ran into that problem. My dogs are smart we train for psa. Good luck to buddy keep up the great videos.
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What a champ👊always enjoy your videos pal!keep it up👍
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Good demo!
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I love your videos , they give my so much knowledge. I can't wait to get my first malinois. Thank you for your videos
Really appreciate you taking the time to make this content, I've learnt a lot from your vids!
Would love to see two future vids:
One about your dogs' relationship with your kid and how you made sure there's no risk given their bouncy energy?
The second about some basic tug toy techniques like when you tap and when you stroke the dog and the thought process behind this.
Many thanks and look forward to your future content.
Thank you 🙏🏼
What about Frisbee? I did sport division frisbee with my Tervuren for years. No injuries, and he loved it.
Awesome video!! Looking forward for a third part. Generalization on the send away (location, tug placement...) that would be great!! Just an idea 😉. As somebody said our limitation is due to constipation of imagination! Great way to incorprate training, play, relation building... In one sesion.
Wow that’s a great quote! Thanks for sharing🙏🏼
You can do a variant of this exercise by setting up a basic fly ball style run. Place 4 Low jumps at 10 ft intervals & place the reward toy on a cardboard box 15 ft from the last jump ☺️ 🐾🐾
Watched your video from Northern Ireland 🇮🇪 😀 love watching your dogs and training your explanation of dangerous fetch was brilliant. I have a working cocker she is fast I now see and understand what you are saying. I will try this
What’s up Ireland!! Thank you 🙏🏼
I love cocker spaniels! 🙌🏻
Thank you for replying, brilliant dogs 🐕 she is a welsh working cocker work cut out for me very busy breed she is a year old 😀. Keep sending those brilliant videos oh by the way have you ever trained this breed take care
Just a great video. Spectacular dog, great training; and, just as important, all your reasons for the training made perfect sense. Getting a working lines GSD this year and based upon your advice I'm changing what I did with my last GSD to incorporate your advice. Thanks.
Awesome! Thank you 🙏🏼
Man your dogs are incredible!!
It really depends on the breed as you sad on the biggening. Of course with a lightning fast and tall dog this is a risk. Thankfully my fog is at about ground level by default and he is not nearly fast enough. However I will try this thing just for as something different I might end up liking it.
Im a huge fan of you buudy! your content is creative fun and educational! its really an honor that I got you by my side!! Id love to show us some bungee work and some control work when decoys are out! it would be really fun seeing you guys working on those things! Great level of work!
Thanks brother ⚔️
It’s a cool concept, but it also defeats the purpose frisbee, maybe no more grounders though.
Yeah personally I hate frisbee haha
Insanely dangerous
Andy you convinced me, since the first video; I've been throwing the ball, hitting my chest, and when my dog jumps up I catch him and then I run to the ball. That's a workout.
Wow sounds like you have some strength! Must come from that William the conqueror bloodline! 👑🙃
@@AndyKrueger hey I heard the Vikings used Belgian malinois but they had different name for the dog.
@@AndyKrueger it's the shield maiden.
I’ve been watching your vids for a while. great job your videos are making me less nervous to get a malinois. Also do you have any training tips for me?
Master the basics 🙏🏼
Spot on with this buddy 👍🏼
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Another thing I wanted to afk. Are the commands you use in German or Belgian. Snd is that standard for all dogs or just GSD’s and Mals?? Thsnk you again ❤
Thank you. I agree with the send away, makes sense.
Jasper is adorable 😍😍😍
I'm struggling with this a bit because my high energy Mal girl is a blazing-fast super-jockette. I have just a normal city lot. A large dog park is a 10 minute walk away, so that's where we go. A typical fetch session is 15 to 20 launcher throws of 100-ish yards at our local dog park, usually a pitch count of 15. She LOVES these sessions. Maybe 5 days a week. She's super fast and fit. Then 3 or so sessions of frisbee catch fetch, each day in my front yard, which she also LOVES. Maybe 20 yards out most throws, and she catches it in the air. Usually about 10 minutes per session or until first time she decides to lay down on the job then I end the session. In the frisbee catch, she also has to avoid obstacles and is showing excellent judgment and body control, i.e., she doesn't run into the neighbor's fence or the housemate's jeep in the driveway. So I'm torn on how to get her the amount of intense physical exercise and work she needs. Flirt poles help, I built her some special extra-heavy-duty ones, and she loves to swim and do pool fetch, where there is zero possibility of injury. Maybe I just need to be more committed about running with her. Slow human, I "run", she trot-walks. I'll ask the trainer I'll be working with shortly. He trains Malinois drug detection dogs, among other Malinois expertise.
Great Contents with practical and useful info!!! TOP
I used to fetch the to my Maligator and it hit a light post on the run to the ball 🤦♂️
Had some issues with the tendons because of the quick sprints and "brakes"...
Stopped that. Se now we run together several times a week at the same Pace and my girl is perfectly well 👌💪
Thanks and Hello from Portugal
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My Mal absolutely loves fetch, wakes me up at 3 or 4 to play lol but I understand what you’re saying. I have put a lot of mental stimulation into Maya’s fetch and I’ll add theses tools for further play and training.
Andy, I love 99% of your content. This one though is a weird hill to die on. It almost feels personal.
Being passionate about defending dogs who’s owners are reckless with their health and safety is a weird hill to die on?
What an amazing partnership.
Fabulous in fact! 🙂
Thank you! 🙏🏼
U r doing a good job with your dog 🐕
Hi Andy. Firstly how old this crazy athlete called Jasper. He is gorgeous. How old is too old to start training this way my dog is almost 8 I’m older and not as mobile I’d like to be due to a malfunction of a spinal surgery 😢 but I do ehat I can. I encourage my boy to find his toys around the yard. He leaves them laying around snd I ask him to find it. Then he chooses which one we will play with. But after a few minutes he just goes to his bed snd plays chewy on his toy. I’d like him to have more exercise so what can I do to encourage That. Thsnk you for your videos bi love to watch you at work either your Mal ❤️❤️
How did you set up the recall from the prey with whistle?
Gasper's amazing...
I like how u train ur dog I have a new puppy same breed as yours and I’m listening to what u teach so I can teach my dog thank you
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Thanks, very good
Great video
Thank you 🙏🏼
@@AndyKruegerNo, thank you 🙏
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Thanks so much excellent
I've had to control fetch for my last two dogs the last 15 years or so to keep them from killing themselves. The female I have now I have taught a whoa, before she gets to the toy . I like the barrier idea, but we travel a lot and I'm not sure she's smart enough to stop when her brain isn't on. She's a great old mans dog, but she's not the brightest bulb on the chain of lights.
If you aren't worried about your dog getting hurt you haven't trained long enough.
Amen 🙏🏼
That's true my dog love fetch so much that he got ccl and we take him to the chiropractor I got were you are coming from mine is pit cathoula mix
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Great content as always - thank you 👍
Thanks!
Awesome!
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Yes, I have a working line German Shepard. We play a lot of Frizbee. He flies through the air and I do for it is his favorite thing. Done it for years but just ran into an issue with his shoulder. Think it might be what you are talking about.
Definitely the frisbee. Super dangerous and harmful.
Question, completely off topic but,could you please answer or make a video on the subject.
How do you address “Whining” ?
I have a 2yo Corso/Rottie mix , he is very well behaved and does almost all that is asked of him. But if it is something that he doesn’t want to do he will whine about it before, and during that task. Example; ask him to sit/stay at door before we leave, and the whining starts as soon as he’s asked to sit and doesn’t stop till I break him. Example #2; while walking if I notice another dog approaching I call him to heel, as soon as he notices the other dog the whining starts. He will remain at a heel and continue walking with me, even if the other dog is aggressively barking/growling & lunging at us, but he’s doing so while whining. Example #3 and the worst; While preparing his breakfast and dinner, he is asked to place and down in our living room while his meals are prepared in our kitchen. He does place/down/stay perfectly but he does so with whining. I must mention that his whining is extremely high pitched and loud . During his meal times I have tried waiting him out before I break to eat, the first 2 times that took about 40 minutes. The next 2 times I stood there for more than an hour until my head and ears were exploding. And the rest of the evening I was laying down with my eyes closed and my head throbbing. Please help!
Have you tried correcting him on a training collar?
Good info. If the dog is properly warmed up then fetch is ok. Dogs are athletes so proper warmed up will help their muscles. I do a lot of activity for my dog but i don't have a malinios. I have a Labrador that I use for waterfowl hunting. We teach similar concepts for hunting and hunt test. We have a thing we call blind pile where we send the dog to the pile but they don't see the pile or how far we go. Once they know where the pile is then it is a pattern blind. Very similar but we always starts with thrown training dummy to teach concepts of seeing where the dummy land so they can hunt the area or go to where they saw the dummy fall.
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏼
I have a doberman puppy 5 months old and I NEVER even considered him getting hurt playing fetch! Bad Owner! I will make some changes ASAP. I also subscribe to your patreon. Many thanks Andy for the education
Very true
These types of high drive dogs will push themselves to the point of injury during play, training or real protection. Any injury may take your dog out of training or competition for a month if not the rest of their lives. Anything we can do to reduce or eliminate injuries is our responsibility.
Yes!! 🙌🏻
I’m diligently doing my homework on this breed & the more I read & watch about them the more I realise that my job is the main problem.
I have spanners, a Springer & two cockers. They are working dogs & they are also my pets. They come everywhere with me. I’m an active person which keeps them super chilled, however, my job as a Gardner means that my clients love seeing & playing with the “girls”. Young & old they play & pet them fetch being the one thing that clients that are parents love as the kids fuss & play fetch with them. I encourage the kids to play hide & seek with the ball but my elderly clients love to sit down in their gardens petting them & playing fetch. I’m not always able to keep an eye but the “girls” know that they stay away from machines & sort of entertain themselves. This I find is the issue with the malinois breed. I work by myself so up ladders where I’m busy with hedges & trees I’m busy for hours & can’t be seen to spend my clients time to train my dogs. The spanners have always had an older dog to play with & they don’t really bugger off, I feel that not being able to be 100% an eye on bad behaviours & nip them in the bud as & when I see it. The “girls” are high drive but with constant guidance they are gentle & respectful of humans young & old but feel the Malinois will be a more difficult breed for my work. The girls are not prey drive more seek I’ve done a lot of work with them around cats, small furry pets, squirrels & anything else that runs away & it’s paid off. They do well working in their domain but I think the prey drive in the malinois is going to be a whole different kettle of fish.
Again, I’m a really active person & love working with my dogs, they are rarely left at home alone, it’s mainly when the weather is so hot & we need to go to the shops or I’ve got to finish an afternoon off at work so they have a splash before they settle down for the afternoon. Maximum is four hours, I feel that would be too much for the BM.
I use this skill to teach and improve hunt capabilities. Directly relates into protection sports abilities.
Cool 👍🏻
What command is this for send out?
I never thought about this - thank you for posing that kind of question. I just got around to having the perfect fetch with my dog, even got a chuck-it, and I didn't consider the physical consequence with my dog. Especially since we HAVE a fence. My dog is /so/ fast. She will tear actual dirt and grass with her kind of momentum (32lb pitbull/chihuahua and VERY athletic). I'm going to start teaching her this instead.
Awesome! 🙏🏼
pitbull/chihuahua!? I don't think I've ever seen one of those! I can only imagine the attitude lmao
@@ib1ray She kinda just looks like an oversized Chihuahua that didn't skip leg day 😂 Very sweet lap dog, but can flip a switch and be very confident and athletic. The most perfect mutt I've ever had, honestly!
@@wallsofgab i pictured that and laughed out loud!
@AndyKrueger - Why does Jasper let go of the pull toy when you call his name? Is this a form of "let go?" Do you only call his name when using the tug toy, so that he will let go?
Can you tell how do you teach any command to your dog
With food and a leash.
Ok cool I got him to slow down as he’s picking up the tug. How do I get him to slow down as he’s bringing it back to me!? Lol I taught my dog to do what Jasper does on recall, goes through your legs then comes back out your legs again. I had to do away with that though because l had a bad experience. Let’s just say that my Mal is pretty tall and he didn’t clear his head all the way as he was going through my legs!! Am I supposed to be wearing a cup?! Lol
I just have him go around me now.
Haha! Sounds like going around or flipping into Heel will be much safer! 😆🙌🏻🙏🏼
love it!
I love that tug, where'd you get that? Is there a brand name?
Sorry it was awhile ago, don’t remember.
Wow…. Amazing.
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What's the whistle?
So without a fence i cant play it?
Omg he’s such a good boy
I don't play fetch. My dog just runs away with it and chews on it, but if I place it in a ground with out her looking then give her the command "find it". She looks for it and gets it, but always brings it back for more.... Why do you think that is? same ball and everything.
Nevermind I should of watched more of the video, I got the answer! Thank you for the info!
She probably just lacks formal retrieve training, step by step.
Thanks for watching 🙏🏼
You’re a genius😎
At least one of us thinks so 😆
Litte kid in video: can i have doll?
Andy: no, choking risk. Heres a mannequin
It’s the little things that make me love this breed, like the happy whines…my little girl does the same thing lol
It's not the breed it's the good training, he wants to play more
@@cretudavid8622 training doesn’t make the dog make whining sounds…my mal isn’t trained this good and she does it all the time. It just happens when they get excited
Hey Andy another great video ! Do you have a recommended training order for pups? I know it takes time and different training sessions just thinking work on xy first then progress to z ?
Thanks! Engagement, hand feeding and play are always NUMBER 1 in any/ all environments. You have to be the most important/ interesting thing to your pup anywhere and everywhere! Don’t move on until you have that 🙏🏼
Jasper is really a talkative vocal guy isnt he? Just like my dog... sometimes its getting anoying man hahahaha. The drive inside them are telling them GO ATTACK YEAH GO GET IT FULL SPEED FULL THROTTLE
Yeahhhh I built him up a little too much 😆🤦🏻♂️
@@AndyKrueger What command in French are you using to send Jasper after his tug/toy?...I can't quite understand you.
You are a freaking boss!!!!
With my heeler it’s a 100 yard full send with the longest chuckit arm I can find.
Why you need a chuck it? Don’t know how to throw a ball?
@@AndyKrueger It’s saves on my elbow. Also, I can get the ball far enough in front of him so he knows where he needs to be.
@@AndyKrueger There's such a thing as a blown rotator cuff. Strangely, using the launcher with my dog seems to have strengthened the shoulder to where I can at least throw a little now.
LOVE TO “WALK”-
We’re currently doing some research before keeping a stray Belgian malinois puppy we found and we want to know what types of activities we can do everyday in our backyard. So, I understand that playing fetch is a no-no. But is fetch similar to playing frisbee? We’ve seen a lot of videos with Belgian malinois playing frisbee. Would that be safe for them?
Frisbee is the most dangerous activity you can do. I’d strongly recommend finding a local credible trainer you can work with weekly for at least a few months. You need to master the basics in obedience first and foremost 👍🏻
@@AndyKrueger thank you! We will find a trainer if we decide to keep her.
Oh yes, my Mal girl has the same white "cross" blaze on her chest as this dog and also Freddy. So maybe they even have some ancestors in common. As I mentioned, she is a super high energy lightning fast jockette. She's always bugging me to do active high intensity play with her.
I like your dog men