WHY I NEVER PLAY FETCH! I DO THIS INSTEAD! BELGIAN MALINOIS TRAINING!

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    What's up everyone! This week's video breaks down why I never play fetch with my Belgian Malinois AND what I do instead! I know it may sound crazy at first, BUT, safety is always my #1 priority for an active sport dog. If you have a big, fast and strong Malinois, and regularly throw a toy for them to retrieve, it is inevitable that at some point they will experience an injury. While for some it is no big deal, for me it is an unnecessary risk especially during competition season! Just food for thought!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 635

  • @arctodussimus6198
    @arctodussimus6198 6 місяців тому +30

    I had a Malinois for almost 14 years. He was the greatest dog. Was by my side every day of his life. Went to work with me, to the grocery store… absolutely everywhere.
    Was the most obedient, intelligent, and loyal dog I ever had.
    He climbed trees, ladders, and sometimes brick walls.
    Absolutely fearless.
    But he had separation anxiety big time.
    He once chewed through a welded wire fence to get to me when I left him in a friend’s yard for an hour.
    Best friend I ever had.
    He went under eight years ago and I still miss him terribly.
    🐾

    • @DrJUSTICE813
      @DrJUSTICE813 6 місяців тому +2

      They attach to one person hardcore. I have Mother Father and 7 pups, and they all act this way.

    • @deborahholroyd6495
      @deborahholroyd6495 5 місяців тому

      I'm sorry..I hate losing a best friend ❤

  • @esproducciones1443
    @esproducciones1443 Рік тому +212

    Update on Ace - I have gotten him involved in playing some of the games ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx1_veP7CApJK_GWy_TczaMciuG64PqJeU and I can see a difference in his confidence already! My other dog played along and he became intrigued - now its a daily part of our routine - about 3 times a day we do the shell game and the muffin tin game. I am so grateful for coming upon your training techniques!

  • @adestradoronline
    @adestradoronline Рік тому +35

    Man! As a professional dog trainer for 27 years and owner of a 10 year old mali, I can say this is a premium advice! My girl got hurt many times because it took time for me to realize it! Best advice ever. Gratz

    • @BillyBeamedUp
      @BillyBeamedUp 11 місяців тому

      Please help they said belgiums are smart but line won’t even look to what I’m pointing at won’t grab any items won’t play with any items or anything

    • @F82_
      @F82_ 8 місяців тому +1

      @@BillyBeamedUpyou need to bond your mal, I started by having him sleep next to me in his bed and then taking him out to walks, then made toys interesting for him, etc…

    • @utube7917
      @utube7917 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@BillyBeamedUp I see trainers start with food luring. First they move the food around in their hand and get the dog moving after the food. Try to get them excited and interested, which puts them into a playful mood. They then introduce something, like a toy. Perhaps use a Kong to start, where a treat is inside while saying th3 name of the toy. Once they learn to chase the kong and its name, then you can start having them chase the Kong by name while empty and you reward them instead when they go get it. Then work on them going for the Kong by name even without throwing it. If they nudge it, reward them. When they pick it up, reward them and progress to them holding it. Then work on throwing it and them bringing it back to you. I am not a professional, but I have trained my dog basics and she listens extremely well. Dogs have to learn what we want them to do and it can be frustrating when they don't simply understand languages like a human, but you can incrementally teach them using food and praise, but may take some creativity. They need to be mentally stimulated and be excited. Dogs don't want to be bored when asked to do a task, even with food. The dog may start responding less when they start getting bored of a specific command, even with the treat reward, which is a good time to switch to something else for a while and come back to it later.

    • @Trauma_Rc
      @Trauma_Rc 5 місяців тому

      @@BillyBeamedUptry treats first then as he gets older make the switch

  • @k9-unit-australia275
    @k9-unit-australia275 2 роки тому +60

    100% agree with this. Over the years ive had a few dogs that have injured their legs chasing balls. It’s usually a hole or jumping. Now i just use tug toys.

    • @ladykd2355
      @ladykd2355 2 роки тому +3

      So true! Torn pads, hurt feet, broken nails, hurt back, all kinds of injuries. I've seen it!

    • @curlyhairdudeify
      @curlyhairdudeify Рік тому +1

      Isn't that going to mess up their teeth...

    • @2K9s
      @2K9s Рік тому

      @@curlyhairdudeifydepends on the tug or materials used but not necessarily the action of tugging.

    • @matthewhiggs4805
      @matthewhiggs4805 Рік тому +4

      Meanwhile Belgian malinois chase down people and bite them mid air, landing in all sorts of precarious positions. Not sure I understand your comment

    • @daviddawson1718
      @daviddawson1718 Місяць тому

      You play like you train. If you are afraid of an injury, go get a Bassett hound. My dogs wrestle, run, and play fight constantly until it is time to work, aka hunting furry woodland quadrapeds. If you treat a dog softly, you earn yourself a soft, useless dog.

  • @cesarvazquez1180
    @cesarvazquez1180 Рік тому +4

    I watched this video one year ago when I had just gotten my blue heeler. I taught him how to play a slight variation of this game and would use it to practice obedience at a distance. I'm so glad I found this video when i did.
    Thank you!

  • @neuralnoise06
    @neuralnoise06 2 роки тому +12

    I can totally relate to this, used to happen all the time, nowadays i ask her to sit wait, throw her the ball really far and then ask her to look for it, feels like is both mentally and physically stimulating that way

  • @kendrak2009
    @kendrak2009 2 роки тому +15

    My Lab/Corso mix lives for fetch. He has tumbled so many times trying to get the ball that I've started to put him in a stay first before I throw it. Seems to tire him out a lot more too because of the mental aspect rather than just obsessively waiting for me to throw the ball.

  • @sueshrodes9462
    @sueshrodes9462 2 роки тому +25

    I totally get what you are saying....I have a high drive rescue german shepherd (I do not compete) but just exercising her (and oh boy does she need mental and physical challenges) I have held my breath numerous times when she has made some wild moves playing (not fetch). I have worked very hard on basic obedience so we can enjoy structured play...thanks for doing this video, great ideas!

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +5

      I understand that breath holding moment!! 😬
      Thanks for watching 🙏🏼

    • @AliOmar-he5zv
      @AliOmar-he5zv 2 роки тому +3

      i can totally relate. i have a HIGH drive gsd boerboel mix, and he does some high speed questionable moves. so i noramlly prefer playing fetch at the beach where the sand is softer and fall impact is pretty dampened

  • @Shanna-n2l
    @Shanna-n2l 6 місяців тому

    I’ve owned Malomo for 17 years. I’ve seen video pop up and always neglected to watch it but wow, I’m sure glad I did. You are really onto something. Thank you for sharing. Truly amazing.

  • @tonymontes8840
    @tonymontes8840 2 роки тому +6

    This is good stuff........I'm learning too!
    We picked up a stray puppy off a busy hwy, She was filthy, a bit undernourished, but extremely calm.
    We stayed in the area for a couple hours thinking someone might be looking for her.
    We finally decided to take her with, opened the passenger door and she hopped in, laying on my wife's lap asleep and warm.
    Took her to the Vet the following morning, too young for a chip, in fairly good health, just needed nourishment, and care.
    She's 9 months old now, and in much better health.......here's the cool thing:
    We thought maybe a German Shepherd mix.......DNA sez Malinois mix Shepherd.
    She's a beautiful doggo, and we're absolutely keeping her, love the high energy, but We have a lot to learn still, and this is why We subbed.
    Much appreciated!

  • @jessicaashley6077
    @jessicaashley6077 Рік тому +2

    My GSD service dog tripped over the tug and ripped its metacarpal pad in half... now he is on bed rest and can't work. Never thought about it. Good advice!

  • @ema9067
    @ema9067 2 роки тому +7

    Yes! I had a masseuse for my late dog and she couldn't stress enough how fetch can be dangerous and can lead to serious injuries. I like it very much that you're putting the word out.
    I currently have no dog and I just keep watching videos like yours. I miss a companion and for sure the next pup that comes to our house will be a dutch shepherd.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +2

      I love the Dutchies!
      Thanks for watching, there are definitely safer alternatives out there! 🙌🏻

  • @griffinreitz7041
    @griffinreitz7041 2 роки тому +18

    I encourage clients to play a "structured" game of fetch. The dog sits, heals, or downs, they throw the toy and send the dog after it. It slows things down a LOT, makes the dog think, and most importantly keeps the toy on the ground. I cringe every time I see a large dog "getting air" and their owners thinking it's a great idea.
    My last big male would come in so hard he was constantly sore in the front end. Making him wait and sending him solved all of that. He played, literally , till the day he died. I do really like the idea of "warming up"

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +4

      Thank you for sharing 🙏🏼 The structured fetch is good and I agree MUCH safer than just chucking the ball. Still, I’ve found a very fast dog hitting full speed then HITTING the brakes at the last second can still cause injury. But most dogs this exercise will be just fine I believe. And a great mix of physical and mental exercise.
      Happy training! 🙌🏻

  • @leandrolimeres
    @leandrolimeres 9 місяців тому +1

    I play fetch with a ball with my 1 year and 6 months American Stafordshire everyday since she was 6 months. Never got hurt...

    • @Dr.Krusty67
      @Dr.Krusty67 6 місяців тому

      Lucky you? Do you not see all the comments saying they've had exactly what he's talking about happen?

    • @leandrolimeres
      @leandrolimeres 6 місяців тому

      @@Dr.Krusty67 Yeah, maybe I am. Still playing everyday! Going strong and smarter on every new move of the ball!

  • @CakewalkHootenanny
    @CakewalkHootenanny Рік тому +3

    That drill where he grabs the bumper at full tilt boogie is a crack up! Wow your dog is intense. What a bond, he really likes to work. You have a great connection.

  • @jackk8093
    @jackk8093 2 роки тому +13

    Dude I was so worried until you said small dog like a jack Russell lol. That’s what I got. Been playing fetch for 15 years with him and no problems. I can definitely see the bigger dogs having a problem. Great alternative for saving backs, legs, and hips.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +5

      Yep! My JRT has always been fine, but Fast Belgian Malinois can WRECK themselves 🙏🏼

  • @AL_goTrader
    @AL_goTrader 2 роки тому +2

    Great point Andy. Our GSD loved to play with his chuck-it balls. It was weird since he would go through stages where he would only play with the orange one or blue one until each were absolutely falling apart. When he was 6, he had an incident in the backyard when I threw the ball. After about a week of rest, we thought he was fine. I tossed the ball again and there was another issue. We took him to the vet and we got the worst news that it was hip/bone cancer. With treatment, our beautiful boy lasted another year. It wasn't throwing playing fetch that caused this but he missed playing fetch the last year of his life.

  • @joec461
    @joec461 2 роки тому +7

    This is true. I was always afraid of my German Shepherd hurting himself. His drive was through the roof and he would do anything to get the ball. When he was 11 years old I stopped playing fetch because he could twist his legs, hit himself on a tree branch etc. I struggled with how to exercise him as he got older. I did these exercises as well but when I stopped fetching I didn't realize I could do these exercises instead. Ball fetching with a high drive dog could cause injury thanks for sharing.

  • @sas117
    @sas117 2 роки тому +8

    Such a good video! I think you’re so right. We have a Belgian Malinois pup of 6 months and I worry every time he runs after a ball or something and I’ve warned my family members a few times already it will go wrong one day. 😩 I’ll show them this video, thanks so much for the info! 💪 Greetings from Holland

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому

      Awesome! Thank you!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @beingthatiam
    @beingthatiam Рік тому +1

    You definitely have done a good job with this dog, it is pleasant to see the enthusiasm that he shows.

  • @Vapornator
    @Vapornator 2 роки тому +7

    Dude your absolutely correct.
    This has happen to me with my other breeds as well.
    Just happened to my bullterrier in fact.
    They push themselves 100 percent all the time and sometimes something gives. Elbows, toes, wrists.

  • @GxxdyGxxdrich
    @GxxdyGxxdrich 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for this I have a 9 month old PitBull that’s listens better than most dog’s at the dog parks I go to thanks to you and many other on UA-cam.
    Now I’m not going to stop playing fetch with him thank you I’m just as student of the game and I love to train my pup idk why it just feel’s amazing to help teach him new thing’s only had him for 6 months on the 14th.
    Thank you again keep uploading so we can get more knowledge and training in. 🙏🏽

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      Awesome! I agree and thank you for sharing! I will continue to upload! 💪🏼

  • @annacornelius1013
    @annacornelius1013 Місяць тому

    Very good point - our dog, a cairn terrier, got hurt playing fetch. I should have known earlier.

  • @michellewilliams8188
    @michellewilliams8188 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for sharing this video. My girl turns 9 in October, and she is addicted to the frisbee. I noticed over the weekend that something was wrong with her left leg. Took her to the vet, and she has a terrible strained ACL. Her vet said no more jumping, and make her rest. I feel so guilty about her injury. Immediately came home and put all her frisbees in our guest house. It’s been a challenging 1st day, but it’s for the best for both of us.

  • @downeastjd1711
    @downeastjd1711 2 роки тому +7

    I love the look your dog has, at the end--Ready to rock. I'm raising a mix of 4 herding breeds, currently 9 months, that has that look in his eyes. He's an intense animal, but going to make an awesome companion.

  • @LisaLisa-xp3eo
    @LisaLisa-xp3eo Рік тому +5

    Exceptional! So helpful! Such a smart way to play “pseudo-fetch” and avoid injury for your dog! ❤Andy

  • @joannawagoner8901
    @joannawagoner8901 2 роки тому +2

    my malinois has so much fun playing fetch at the beach, but you're right, they do give 100% and these last few trips have left her limping and miserable. so i think these are such great alternatives! i love your dog, he is so handsome and obedient!

  • @barbarawarren9443
    @barbarawarren9443 2 роки тому +13

    I love this! What a well-trained beautiful Malinois too! I hope my pup can end up this obedient and refined. ❤

  • @Mordredh1107
    @Mordredh1107 4 місяці тому

    Great video. My malinois once smashed his face into a tree going after his ball. Had a scuffed cheek, but didn't even blink once about it. You're absolutely right about the not showing pain.
    My greatest fear is that he would rush into some bushes and blinds himself on a branch. I only play fetch in open fields, and throw the ball far enough so that's it's basically already laying still by the time the dog gets there.

  • @KenBarrens
    @KenBarrens 6 місяців тому

    Amazing! I have almost 2YO Border Collie and he loves to play tug of war and catch frisbee. Thats like my daily fun with running around things and other obedience. Love it

  • @michaelgrimaldi272
    @michaelgrimaldi272 2 роки тому +4

    You hit the nail on the head. I’ve heard a nightmare story because of this exact problem

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      Yeppp
      Totally unnecessary risk!

  • @fumblingninja
    @fumblingninja 2 роки тому +12

    if only we could train our children to be this obedient!!! Jasper is one cool DOG :)

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому

      🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

    • @livnielsen3647
      @livnielsen3647 Рік тому

      It's beautiful to see how engaged his dogs are. Which is the whole point if you ask me. You want them to want to do what you say, not out of fear ❤️ Beautiful

  • @karinmorris6602
    @karinmorris6602 2 роки тому +1

    I agree, researched this after talking to my vet about my Pitties joints. I use a chuck it and was throwing it in the air, so she would jump in the air and land in crazy ways. I do still use the chuck it but I only throw it along the ground on smooth grass AND I check for holes in the run area. I'm getting a Mal in the next week or so and already have this in my plans. Pitties also are very stoic and will not show pain in anyway.

  • @theodorehyatt1782
    @theodorehyatt1782 2 роки тому +6

    When I first saw the headline I mumbled choice words but I watched because you won't learn anything if you're narrow minded this is something I am going to work into Hank's play time thank you for pointing out this important method of warming up

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      Haha I understand! I appreciate you taking the time to watch 🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @yonetcn
    @yonetcn 2 роки тому +2

    That's so true. Especially in snowy conditions.

  • @carolcrosby2177
    @carolcrosby2177 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you Andy.....I totally changed my warm up from this video. My drivey Mal was always hurting herself diving for the toy or Frisbee. Toenails too. She adores flying back now for the tug.
    🥰

  • @islandgypsy1096
    @islandgypsy1096 2 роки тому +4

    Soooo while playing fetch my malinois Diesel tore a piece of his paw pad off. This happened 1 week before a regional qualifier for a dock diving comp. Thank goodness it wasn't a more serious injury. His jumps were short couldn't run, didn't qualify, but got a personal best on timed swim retrieve qualified 😃 no more running and jumping willy nilly for us.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +2

      Ah! I feel your pain. Now you know! 🙌🏻🙏🏼

  • @HemiOrange
    @HemiOrange Рік тому +1

    I agree with you 100%! My dog blew out both cruciate ligaments. Great tip! I wish I never played fetch with my guy.

  • @michelleschweizer9000
    @michelleschweizer9000 2 роки тому +2

    Ps this is the happiest looking mal I have ever seen

  • @thefutureisnow8159
    @thefutureisnow8159 2 роки тому +3

    Can list out all the types of tugs on your wall and where to buy them please? Interested in a deep dive on when to use what tug and why😎

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      I’ve actually accumulated many of these of many years! Gappay, Roca, Demanet, seynaeve are some of the brands 👍🏻

    • @thefutureisnow8159
      @thefutureisnow8159 2 роки тому +3

      @@AndyKrueger thanks Andy- heard of some of these brands but not all- I’m copying you and hanging them all on our entry way hooks! Wall art! She loves to look and wonder which one I’ll use each time-lol

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      @@thefutureisnow8159 👍🏻🙏🏼

  • @Zacharyweindel
    @Zacharyweindel Рік тому

    Great video! How about leave it fetch?
    1 Command: Leave it 2 Handler Action: Throw lure... 3 Command: Release 4 K9 Action: Retrieve
    I do this also play fetch with my sport bred Belgian. She has hit her head on objects behind her turning to run for fetch... wise to be aware a Belgian can and will sustain injuries if handler is absent minded. Thank you for the reminder.

  • @dhominator14
    @dhominator14 2 роки тому +6

    Always love your videos and those are some good exercises I will definitely be doing. I still do fetch in a huge open field that I have, I don’t take my dog out of the crate and throw the ball as far as I can with the chickit lol once they are warm then I start throwing longer and further, I do this for endurance I dog will sprint to the ball and back to me, when he’s bringing a ball back to me I’ll throw a ball in a complete and opposite direction, once he gets back to me I make him sit then go search for the ball I threw in the opposite direction, while he is searching I’ll take another ball throw it in a wooded area, so when he finds the first ball he now has to go search the second ball in the wooded area, the only help he gets is me pointing him where to go. Fetch builds stamina and strength as well as stimulating their brain while using their nose. Never play fetch on a road,black top, or frozen ground. Keep up the good work man, you really are a great trainer.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +3

      Those are some great points and I can’t disagree! Appreciate the feedback and Thank you for sharing 🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @alipeace1925
    @alipeace1925 6 місяців тому

    Holy moly. Just the other day I was out with my, 2 day a week dog, my step daughters dog but we share lol.
    We were playing catch, which we don't often do as I a rubbish thrower but on my last throw she jumped, whilst twisting in the air trying to catch the wayward ball and landed a bit awkward then ran back, As you, I think rightly pointed out, she was seemingly ok but I remember thinking that it could quite easily have ended with an injury. I sure my sloppy throwing doesn't help but I can't explain why.
    This was 2 days ago and today I just stumbled on your channel and I've got engrossed in your videos but to see your thinking on the fetch game is quite astonishing. Many thanks for your training tips/ideas I certainly gonna watch a lot more.
    Love it.

  • @Tkidddd
    @Tkidddd 2 роки тому +41

    That's like never crossing the street because you might get ran over, before you play fetch know your terrain, and I understand your point. I always play in the same area because he will run right into something.

    • @dethdriver1974
      @dethdriver1974 2 роки тому +6

      It's more like diving your race car to the track and getting in a wreck on the way there

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +9

      Haha! I totally disagree! It’s not like saying that at all! The French Ring program can be physically dangerous to the dog. They have to clear jumps that are up to 15 ft long, 4 ft high and climb a wall 8 ft tall, multiple times! This doesn’t include the 7 exercises attacking the decoy who is actively trying to evade them. The downfield attacks are 50 meters and it’s possible the dog can break a tooth, get jammed and hurt their neck, have the decoy fall on them etc. It is a sport that takes years to train the dog accordingly, and sometimes takes a lifetime to find the perfect dog. Since it is a sport that comes with very high risk to the dog, we do everything in our power to make sure the dog goes on the field 100%. It’s probably something only a real competitor will understand. But again, knock yourself out playing fetch, I just don’t with my working dogs.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +3

      @@dethdriver1974 Yep, agreed. The crossing the street reference totally misses the point 👍🏻

    • @Tkidddd
      @Tkidddd 2 роки тому +2

      My Rottweiler got his BH in shitsen in about 5 months first time testing past. Then I was over it, went back to training like we did in the Air Force.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +3

      @@pandora6296 Totally agree 👌🏼

  • @echovalleyfarm9666
    @echovalleyfarm9666 7 місяців тому

    Absolutely true.
    My working GSD injured himself playing chuck it.

  • @Smitch2909
    @Smitch2909 Рік тому +3

    We went through two tplo surgeries last year (torn cruciates) with our boxer and although we can't be sure I put this down to too much fetch- we simply didn't know better. He's recovered well but I carry guilt as it could have maybe been avoided.

  • @patrickkem689
    @patrickkem689 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely brilliant thoroughly enjoyed watching. Thanks for sharing.

  • @sabrinahenault
    @sabrinahenault 2 роки тому +6

    I love this!!!! This is also amazing for impulse control training. 👏 I'm going to implement this! Thanks for the advice!

  • @GK-mv1vu
    @GK-mv1vu 2 роки тому +3

    Love this advice! I have Corso who never shows any signs of injury he never cries! He ripped his dew claw out when playing and never made a sound...
    🙏

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому

      Ouch!! Yep that can certainly happen 🙏🏼

  • @antainhuntingkennelsirelan8546
    @antainhuntingkennelsirelan8546 2 роки тому +3

    This happened to me only 2 months ago, had to lie the dog up for 3 weeks. Restarted training with tons of little rusty foibles in his obedience when he recovered. One of the major problems I have now is he checks on and goes sniffing grass and WILL NOT leave or come even on command. Didnt happen before he got injured but now I have to try rectify it.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      Sorry to hear that! 😫 The time off can definitely make the training rusty and affect your relationship. But will give you a chance to go back to basics 🙏🏼

  • @michelleschweizer9000
    @michelleschweizer9000 2 роки тому +8

    I actually have often thought how easily my working GSD could get hurt playing ball. He is so hard charging and twisting and chases aggressively. AND this weekend he did get hurt playing fetch w a stick. $600 and 6 hours in emergency. The stick stabbed him under his tongue. DONT PLAY W STICKS EITHER.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      Ahh! Sorry to hear that! But glad he is ok 🙏🏼🙏🏼
      Yes the sticks can be very dangerous! I’ve actually heard of even worse 😫
      These kinds of experiences, while they suck at the time, will only make you a better/ more knowledgeable handler and trainer 🙌🏻

    • @irondonkey5623
      @irondonkey5623 2 роки тому +1

      No sticks man my old dog swallowed it and had to get it removed not fun

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому

      @@irondonkey5623 Agree 🙏🏼

  • @akbaldhaliwal6738
    @akbaldhaliwal6738 2 роки тому +4

    Good solid advice 👌. Very often overlooked.

  • @chrisbreezy7272
    @chrisbreezy7272 2 роки тому +2

    I watched this viedeo a couple days ago, and yesterday my doberman got hurt, as we were leaving the park i threw her toy one last time and she came back limping, she hurt her right elbow i was so mad. Luckily she's okay now didn't have to go to the vet. ithink i wont be playing fetch with her any time soon.

  • @Shadow-oz1ws
    @Shadow-oz1ws 2 роки тому +4

    My son was playing with my older 8+ year old GSD and bubbles and she blew all the tendons in her back leg. That was the end of her working life. Now she tries but she is over 10 years old and showing her age.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @Bamaboy813
    @Bamaboy813 2 роки тому +3

    The reason people like playing fetch (I'm guilty) is the dog does all the work and you get to stand or sit still. This method in this video (which I like) requires the owner/handler to be an active participant. People ask me all the time how I maintain a slim figure and I respond "I do stuff with my dogs", as in I'm out moving around with them, walking them etc., in addition to my own running that I do on my own. I foster Malinois and do not own them myself (I have a Rhodesian and a pit/lab mix) so I try and incorporate as many training techniques and warmups as possible but I don't have the fosters more than 3-4 weeks usually and they are a mixed bag on age and good/bad manners they come with. But all in all this is a good warm-up technique and I'll be more cognizant even with my Rhodesian and pit to do things like this as they have good sit/down/come recall and are now 6 going on 7 so I have to be more aware of their limbs and joints. Thanks Andy!

  • @Jesswithlessstress
    @Jesswithlessstress 2 роки тому +2

    Oh good had a Jack Russle Terrier too. I thought I was doing something that could have hurt him. Glad to hear lillttle guys should be ok.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      For sure. I’m actually making a part 2 to this video that will explain more in depth. But the smaller dogs and slower dogs are totally fine to play fetch most of the time 🙏🏼

  • @Doesitmatter88
    @Doesitmatter88 2 роки тому +2

    I have a Australian cattle dog and a few years ago we threw a stick and she ran to get it and the stick stuck straight in the soft yard and she was open mouthed and the stick poked straight through her esophagus. Rushed her in for emergency surgery. She hasn't been the same since. At least she lived. But we no longer ever throw sticks ever again.

  • @MiroslavMikes-lp2sq
    @MiroslavMikes-lp2sq 11 місяців тому

    Please, what commands do you use during training? Gooshi seems great to me, but I can't find this or any other command anywhere. Thank you very much

  • @captainphilly7816
    @captainphilly7816 2 роки тому +11

    I’ve been playing fetch for two years with my Mal And although I’ve never noticed her get hurt she would periodically start limping for a couple days and I never associated it but i almost guarantee it was from Fetch thanks for the info

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      You’re welcome! Thanks for watching 🙏🏼

    • @2K9s
      @2K9s 2 роки тому +2

      I’ve noticed the same on occasion… but a hitch in my Malinois’ giddy-up is always sourced to paw irritation of some sort; pad, nail, knuckle tweak, etc. Heavy running and workouts in deep powdered snow help mitigate strains and sprains for him by reducing the amount of energy and torque transferred through his wheels.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      @@2K9s Swimming is always a great alternative if you have access 👍🏻

    • @2K9s
      @2K9s 2 роки тому +1

      @@AndyKrueger
      I feel like you’re trolling, are you?

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому

      @@2K9s About what?

  • @samgaffamcgaffin
    @samgaffamcgaffin 2 роки тому +1

    When would you stop playing fetch? For example my kelpie puppy fetch is how we r getting him use to the idea of coming to me while we work on some basic obedience. Would you wait til their brain is more developed before stopping and transitioning or just try and see if they get it and when they do transition then?

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому

      That’s a good question! Totally depends on the dog. If the dog/ puppy isn’t fast or reckless, you can typically get away with playing this game forever. But if the time comes that they start becoming high speed and reckless, I’d switch 👍🏻

  • @davidthompson9832
    @davidthompson9832 2 роки тому +1

    wish i saw this earlier. such a hard lesson to learn, but injury fixed that. great video mate. thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @andrewshepherdson14
    @andrewshepherdson14 6 місяців тому

    I’ve thought about this with my gsd. We don’t exactly have a flat yard either, so I think we’re gonna stop… thanks for confirming

  • @nicholasrose2769
    @nicholasrose2769 6 місяців тому

    When I get a Malinois, I am going to use your teachings to train my dog-and to train *me*

  • @dethdriver1974
    @dethdriver1974 2 роки тому +3

    I don't think people realize how fast their dog is either. My dog was clocked at 29mph by a cop watching us play fetch, and we had already been going for a bit. I could just imagine him ramming a fence if we played in a yard.
    How do you train your pup to continue through after hitting the tug? My dog stops as soon as he gets the tug.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +2

      Wow!! That’s fast 🚀
      You have to build it from a few feet away and incrementally increase over hundreds of reps. I can make a more detailed breakdown on here or Patreon 👍🏻🙏🏼🙌🏻

    • @dethdriver1974
      @dethdriver1974 2 роки тому +1

      @@AndyKrueger he is fast, he plays a lot of fetch. 🤣. Im guessing place misses when playing tug to get him to lunge....

    • @jewelsbarbie
      @jewelsbarbie 2 роки тому

      29 mph? 😳 that’s incredible!

  • @aftertheampersand
    @aftertheampersand 2 роки тому +1

    This has been the only technique I’ve found helpful with my boy’s hyperfixation, and noticeably improved his behaviour across the board. Adopted him with a prescription for anxiety meds, but he no longer needs them after removing balls from the equation. Significant regression with any reintroduction.

  • @LIFESaWONDER
    @LIFESaWONDER Рік тому

    Thank you for this valued information. I've never really considered a warm up but it make sense.

  • @dam00k
    @dam00k 10 місяців тому

    Great info, I’ve been looking for something like this. Very controllable and low impact. Thanks!

  • @osathegermanshepherd
    @osathegermanshepherd 6 місяців тому

    I love playing fetch. But what you're saying is also very accurate. My big clumsy girl has done several front flips trying to grab a ball I've thrown. No injuries at this time but I should definitely change the game before it's game over. I've seen other large dogs that have ended up needing down time or surgery because they turned wrong chasing a ball. Thanks!

  • @robhughes8735
    @robhughes8735 2 роки тому +4

    Creat concept. My mal used to tear her carpal pads and we stopped. With high drive dogs, they WILL get hurt. Thank you for this video

  • @jubillie06
    @jubillie06 2 роки тому +1

    When I do tug, obedience work, impulse control instead of fetch with my Mal he loves it. I also play fetch, but when he sees the tug he almost gets more excited. I practice the stopping positions I use for herding, wait, etc. He likes the one on one time since I have multiple dogs and it wears him out. It's a great way to get his arousel level up and have him still listening.

  • @Seticzech
    @Seticzech 7 місяців тому

    How do you train (I don't know the word in English, district?) when dog has to run and check several wooden booths trying to find fiend? They can be hurt just like during catching the ball. Or literally any other exercise when dog has to run. I think if I know terrain, there is nothing wrong with letting dog run no matter if it's catching ball or anything else.

  • @iron_sight_8727
    @iron_sight_8727 Рік тому +1

    Ya I join a few groups on Facebook let say most pics I've seen alot of dog injuries especially the legs

  • @sylviahepple9103
    @sylviahepple9103 Місяць тому

    Its true it happened to my German shepherd and his hip joint came out ...had to take him to vets ..he had trouble with this on and off ...but i did stop throwing a ball for him...

  • @chrismair8161
    @chrismair8161 2 роки тому +1

    I took my German Boxer to an off leash and un hooked him. He did a 180 and as I'm holding his leash above my head? Jumps to get it and almost broke my nose. That was my learning curve and now he runs with his leash in his teeth. The rooster tail of two German Boxers going full tilt? Just a fog of Grass Sir!

  • @GloriaSosaLarsen
    @GloriaSosaLarsen 7 місяців тому

    So happy to see, that I do all of those things, includin the last short one, with my rottweilers.
    That keeps them safe, as the one has hip displasia and the other one, got knee operations.
    They still get to play and use their bodies, with a lot less risk of injuries 😍

  • @bm1858
    @bm1858 2 роки тому +1

    makes sense. I have a Malinois which was hurt lightly by a weird jump or run for a ball several times. It is true what he says.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому

      Of course it’s true!! 🙌🏻

  • @laguana10
    @laguana10 9 місяців тому

    Jasper is phenomenal 👏🏽 One day I’d love for my Mali’s to perform on his level! Very well done!

  • @mimon4884
    @mimon4884 7 місяців тому

    I agree, had that experience. Policedog female landed on wet grass chasing a stick, broke her rear leg.

  • @adrianrichards247
    @adrianrichards247 6 місяців тому

    So true ……my Dobes over the years ( till I worked out that I was causing the issues ) would fly through or over a wall after that ball …luckly knocks and pulls …it took 2 years for the penny to drop ….now 48 years later I wish you could somehow bottle all that experience

  • @johnjack4598
    @johnjack4598 Рік тому +2

    Great training! Great dog Great videos

  • @TheRealBrandonMartin
    @TheRealBrandonMartin 2 роки тому +4

    Wish I would have seen this video two weeks ago… my six month old Malinois Kona hurt her hip jumping in the air and catching the ball when it bounced, The way she landed and fell ended up hurting her. I won’t be playing fetch with any of my Mali’s anymore.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      Ah!! Sorry to hear that! That’s the worst, especially at this age when the growth plates are still open. Give a solid 4 weeks rest (which I know SUCKS for a Malinois) just to be safe 🙏🏼
      The exercises I show in this video will be much safer and give the same physical/ mental output! 🙌🏻

    • @l26wang
      @l26wang 2 роки тому +1

      Don’t work your dog hard until growth plates close at 2. No forced fetch no forced long running no high jumps. There are recommendations on the internet even more extreme. But that’s the minimum.

  • @joshsiegelguitar
    @joshsiegelguitar 2 роки тому +1

    This year's $2500 TPLO surgery on my 2-year old fetch obsessed pittie's hind leg brought me here :)

  • @mathilder1822
    @mathilder1822 2 роки тому +2

    i play fetch sometimes with my malinois and it IS his favorite thing in the world, but you are totally right, he often ends up tripping on his own legs and limping for a few minutes/hours, so the games you are showing are way better. It has no big consequences (for now) so i still allow it from time to time, but for a working dog that has an even higher drive and that you need at 100% all the time, it totally makes sens to ban it

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +4

      I understand! It is a fun game for dogs and I try my best to recreate the most exciting parts with alternative exercises. If I didn’t plan to compete, I may do the same and take my chances. But after seeing so many great dogs get hurt this way, it makes the overly cautious side of me come out! 😬
      Thank you for sharing and watching! 🙏🏼

  • @scottlavalley6115
    @scottlavalley6115 2 роки тому +4

    I worked this into this morning and evening and limited the fetch type exercise…worked well and he had to think a little more…it is amazing though to witness the acrobatic displays when the ball bounces funny…certainly not worth an injury

  • @SamHaberONE
    @SamHaberONE Рік тому +1

    I have a cattle dog(the redneck malinois, I've heard someone say). Can concur fetch has casued injuries.

  • @FirepowerYankTanks
    @FirepowerYankTanks Рік тому +1

    Good Job, Andy. I am glad I found you. Do you have any advice for training 3 Malinois together? I am about to pick up a 12-month-old female, a 6-month-old female and a six-month-old male trained by the breeder for attack, perimeter, defence, bait and obedience. Upon pickup, Malinois must do a full-day handover at the training company. However I have been watching the breed on the various social medias and I think I am very ill equipped to give my team the guidance they may need. Please point me in the right direction if you can. Happy to pay.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  Рік тому

      Thank you
      I’m sorry to say, and please don’t take this the wrong way, this is a very bad idea. One is often times way too much. Personally, I would not ever get three or even two. No matter what they tell you about their training etc, it is not responsible to sell three like this. I’m sorry 🙏🏼

  • @hercules66
    @hercules66 2 роки тому +5

    Working at a Veterinary Clinic I do get this, especially with the crazy drive these pups have.
    My Dutch/Mal would rather tug/bite anyways, but we will give dock diving a try this spring summer.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +2

      I bet! 😕
      Dock diving is awesome! And physically pretty safe! 🙌🏻

    • @JennyYasi
      @JennyYasi 2 роки тому +1

      @@AndyKrueger You think so? I guess maybe. I don't do it because it doesn't look physically safe to me. Conditioning matters for sure.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому

      @@JennyYasi It’s safe as long as you don’t over jump your dog 🙏🏼

  • @ilivenanigloo
    @ilivenanigloo 2 роки тому +2

    Yep, we have soft top soil and the uneven ground is great for body awareness, but also a hazard. I've never had a serious injury happen, but my dogs that love fetch have all had at least one instance of stepping wrong and coming back limping. My GSD would get so focused on watching the ball, he'd run into rocks, cars, and other things. My Mal will dirt dive and go rolling, which is hysterical, but also a concern. And that's before you start considering what happens when they are too physically tired to keep playing but are driven to keep pushing themselves to fetch. We fetch with strict supervision and only on certain "fetch safe lanes" on our property.

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      Sounds like you recognize the risks and take all the necessary precautions 🙏🏼 That’s what it’s all about!

  • @zblip22
    @zblip22 Рік тому

    So nice!I can't help notice you are giving him orders in French. I'm French Canadian, I use the exact same command words.

  • @lenanbo1
    @lenanbo1 2 роки тому +1

    My k9 handler buddy’s mal wrecked his leg playing fetch so bad they had to amputate it cause the break was close to cutting an artery.

  • @goymedhundDogtrainingBehavior
    @goymedhundDogtrainingBehavior 2 роки тому +3

    my dutchie "Cherokee" is just the same..... i agree... there is a lot of other things we can do with them. one of the sibblings of Cherokee hit herself during playing fetch.. she injured herself really badly.- scapula almost snapped... and at the age og 6 months it had to be crated for over a month...then a month of very slow training.. that is hard for a high drive puppy...and yes - loss of valuable training time - espec. for a young dog..

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +2

      Ah sorry hate hearing that! Totally avoidable!! 🙌🏻

    • @goymedhundDogtrainingBehavior
      @goymedhundDogtrainingBehavior 2 роки тому +1

      @@AndyKrueger Absolutely.. A comment to your training with holding the toy and make the dog take it.. I do that to.. i ften put her in a down or a sit while i walk about 15 metres - turn my back towards her and hold the toy between my legs - in a "middle". I have done this with all my dogs and my experieince is that the closer to YOU / yur body you play the more your dog will love to be close to you... The zone where all the cool stuff happens :)

  • @stephenlouchery5166
    @stephenlouchery5166 2 роки тому +1

    what is the Language you have taught your Belgian? I Have a 7 month old Belgian Tervuren, his name is Tracker FYI. Please respond.

  • @heydeereman1040
    @heydeereman1040 2 роки тому

    Never had a problem with my Mal, but have a Dutch that cut her stop pad and took 3 months to heal. Set her training back and she was out of shape after being hobbled for so long

  • @curlyhairdudeify
    @curlyhairdudeify Рік тому

    Is there a reason why Malinois walk leaning against your leg?
    I feel like I will step, or fall on top of the dog I walk.

  • @Crikiit
    @Crikiit 7 місяців тому

    Just got a malinois/dutch shepherd mix as my first dog and this is so true. He has torn pads already so we had to stop playing fetch.

  • @Chopcity_213
    @Chopcity_213 5 місяців тому

    I jus got a Belgium malinois/ bluenose pitbull mix and boy she has energy this helped me tremendously she's a 6 month puppy

  • @ciannacoleman5125
    @ciannacoleman5125 Місяць тому

    We just brought home a rescue and while I don't think he is full blood Malamois he looks almost identical to Jasper. I'm refreshing myself on training a new dog while also trying to be aware of what breed specific things to look out for. I love the idea of doing agility play with him, always wanted to do that with a dog but my older one is a Pyrenees mix who had zero interest lol

  • @reneaguilarguerrero8645
    @reneaguilarguerrero8645 2 роки тому +1

    I have a 8 months Belgian Malinois but i need how can i hype it because he is a low energy, i don't know what to do, and gets bored very fast

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      Low energy Malinois? I can’t believe this!

    • @reneaguilarguerrero8645
      @reneaguilarguerrero8645 2 роки тому

      @@AndyKrueger yes, the doctor said maybe when he was baby the owners they did not supervise or follow the breastfeeding process well and it may have a vitamin problem or there is something inside, we did tests but everything was fine

  • @Taureantiger888
    @Taureantiger888 2 роки тому +1

    I have a 4and a half month old Standard Poodle and they are very bouncy and he's constantly leaping and catching air. This breed gallops more like a horse than a dog. From my research..it's recommended that large breed pups under a year should not be playing fetch due to the abrupt stops and twisting being hard on the developing joints. Is fetch something you would recommend against for large breeds? Standard Poodles are kinda like malinois in the way they like to fly through the air. What would you recommend for a high energy large breed growing puppy? He has high energy but does have a down switch but I'd like to stay within exercise intensity parameters so I don't mess up his growing body. They also say flirt poles are bad for growing puppies as well..ahh sigh.
    Your dogs are stunning btw

    • @AndyKrueger
      @AndyKrueger  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks 🙏🏼
      I recommend all exercises I show in both anti fetch videos! Playing with a puppy is even more dangerous because their growth plates aren’t closed.

    • @Taureantiger888
      @Taureantiger888 2 роки тому

      @@AndyKrueger Thank you! Hope I didn't mess my pup up too bad..but structured ezervisw s so challenging with them as they have so much energy so they just want to zoom and leap around lol

  • @suty2144
    @suty2144 2 роки тому +1

    Great video that, simple idea which makes so much sense