Why Jotaro Kujo Can Use Dio’s The World | Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Analysis
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Throughout the part 3, there have been hints of his sheer speed basically allowing him to move in stopped time, like him beating Geb in speed and him getting the drink in front of Darby. I personally believe that Jotaro basically brute forced his way into stopped time, kinda of like a speedster
If this were the case Silver Chariot would also be able to move in stopped time
The drink was hilarious and the cherry on top for a brilliantly suspense scene. But I just want to clarify that the only reason we’ve seen SP and TW stop time is because they are the absolute peak of stands. And all other stands that are extremely powerful are granted time powers, Diavolo’s, Pucci’s, Giorno’s and Dio’s. So only the best there is of stand users and stands can stop time. But it was definitely foreshadowed that SP was the best just by his W/L record alone
I agree, Silver Chariot was definitely fast, but he was nowhere near as fast and strong as SP and TW. But I don’t think someone can stop time just by being fast enough, i think it becomes an ability of those who are strong (mentally/physically) enough to control time itself, hence why we only see the strongest do so Star Platinum, Made in Heaven, The World and King Crimson. Otherwise, Holhorse and Mista would be able to stop time because their bullets are fast😭
@@MomoshikiTheJanitor haha yeah, it definitely has a level of control over than just being fast, but I do believe that speed is a very important factor in being able to stop time/move in stopped time. I think an important aspect of all of these time manipulating stands is that it’s not exactly time they manipulate, but fate. All of the users wills were so strong that they were granted the abilities to alter fate i.e. mess with time. The ability to change fate in JoJo’s is 100% based on will power, so Jotaro gaining the ability to stop time/move was thanks to his sheer will of him pushing himself to his absolute limit to invade stopped time. He knew he had the power to end Dio’s curse, so he gained the world as well. Silver chariot has been shown to be slower than Star Platinum even with the Anubis buffs, and the hol horse bullet feat will always feel like an anomaly to me, I think he probably knew that Polnareff was gonna strike the bullet directly and anticipated it, but that’s head canon. And for Mista, I don’t think I ever recall him having any feats that near anything that SP or the world have achieved
@@MomoshikiTheJanitor but yeah, I feel Araki intentionally linked will power to the ability to manipulate time/fate. Throughout the series, the character that have the ability to mess with time/fate always have had the strongest of wills. I mean, I feel like Pucci is a key definition of that, he persevered and stuck to the heaven plan despite all of his shortcoming and was blessed with Made in Heaven. Man, l love how thematic JoJo is
this is a very nice theory, but i have another one that i consider to be the real reason why jotaro has the time stop.
fate was shown to be a physical force in the jojo universe that nobody can escape. some people (example: diavolo) try to overcome it, but it always leads to it backfiring at them eventually in someway. and fate was also shown to be on the side of the joestars at the end of each part because like emporio said in part 6 "following the just path is in it of itself fate" which is what the Joestars have been doing all the time.
since they always follow this path, fate grants them the necessary strength to overcome hardships and defeat evil like we've seen with gold experience requiem having the ability to revert all actions into their null state which counters king crimson's ability.
i believe this is also the case for jotaro. fate granted him the power to defeat evil.
Fate is definitely a major part of every Joestar’s adventure. I never believed that because someone was fated to win that it took away from the story and i do genuinely believe that a joestar was always fated to defeat Dio and his servants (Pucci)
They just have the same type of stand
@@MomoshikiTheJanitor they defeat evil btw because kars
kira & diavolo aren't related to dio
very true. I don’t think fate is just between the Joestars and Dio. It was just an example of a Brando being fated to lose to a Joestar. I think all of our protagonists have fate on their side since, in JJBA, fate is represented as a morally correct judge who sides with the good of the universe
That’s a way to explain a Deus ex Machina ending. I think it’s a little bit more complex than just saying destiny will grant the Joestars whatever power they need to overcome evil. For me the power to defeat evil comes within the strength of your spirit (related to the strength of your stand) and the will to defeat evil as an active mechanic of destiny. In the case of Jotaro he embodies the traits of stoicism. Dio lost because he started to lose confidence against Jotaro as he was no longer the only one controlling time.
Another explaination is that Star Platinum's ability (The Star) is that he can (like the "up facing" Star card in the Major Arkana) adapt to any situation by renewing oneself. The Star is also driven a lot by Love, Hope and Faith.
Star Platinum is famous for always having a new ability every time it is shown. But it always comes as a defence to others rather than a personal desire, which is the case with The World.
1) He developed great fighting skills because Jotaro was a fighter by nature, so, he should have a stand that can help him win fights.
2) He tried to shoot himself, but Star Platinum had the speed to catch the bullet.
3) He developed Star Finger when he needed increased range to fight against the Sea Captain with his Deep Blue Moon stand (To protect the girl).
4) He developed high detail vision when he needed to zone in on Dio's location (To protect his Mother)
5) He developed surgical precision to remove Flesh Buds (To protect Kakyoin)
6) He developed the lung capacity to suck an entire town's worth of fog in order to defeat Enyaba's Judgement stand (to protect Polnaref)
7) He developed the speed to fight Silver Chariot without hurting Polnaref (during the Anubis fight)
8) He developed Time Stop (Star Platinum-The World) to protect his grandfather, Joseph as it was pretty much the only way he could defeat Dio (Silver Chariot was around about as fast as Star Platinum and he sneak attacked Dio "IN THE BRAIN" and he actually landed that hit... and he was still fodderised by The World's time stop). He also developed it faster... it took Dio years to get 5 seconds of timestop, it took Jotaro a few hours to get 2 seconds.
9) He saw that Pucci could shorten his time stop with his Made In Heaven stand, so he got an even longer timestop for his very final use of the ability (to protect his daughter). It was only long enough to get Jolyne out of danger and not long enough to defeat Pucci. Jolyne was the only person to walk away from that alive (albeit briefly) besides Emporio.
The Star, The World and The Tower are referenced in the Stargazer song by the band Rainbow, which was sang by Dio's namesake "Ronnie-James Dio": (Found here: ua-cam.com/video/sSIZBSNxb54/v-deo.html ).
Dio is the wizard who fooled the people (his followers) into following him and contributing to his dream, which was to build a Tower above the land of Egypt, after which he would fly off to the Heavens (Dio's Heaven Plan) which was his Star in the sky, he climbed to the top of The World, but he fell before that Star instead of flying, shattering the hopes of his followers who waited 9 years to see the wizard fly. After they realised that they'd been tricked, they had to continue on and find a new purpose.
Here are some lyrics to the song I linked:
"All eyes, see the figure of the Wizard as he climbs to the Top Of The World, no sound as he falls instead of rising. TIME STANDING STILL, then there's blood on the sand... Oh, I see his face.... Where was your Star, was it Far, was it Far"?
The design of The World (the stand) was also likely a reference to another song by Ronnie-James Dio, Holy Diver.
The song is here: ua-cam.com/video/SvpWRlJY6YQ/v-deo.html
Here are some scattered lyrics from various parts of the Holy Diver song:
1) "Holy Diver, You've been down to long in the midnight sea.... (Dio spent 100 years underwater)
2) Holy Diver, you're the star of the Masquerade, no need to look so afraid... Jump, Jump, Jump on the Tiger, you can feel his heart but you know he's mean, SOME LIGHT CAN NEVER BE SEEN (He see's himself as the star of the masquerade, as in, he feels entitled to have the world, but he's always being chased by the cat/tiger that the song is referring to, aka, the Joestars). There's some light that can never been seen (He's a vampire, he will never see the light).
3) Got Shiny Diamonds, like the eyes of a cat in the black and blue, something is coming for you, race for the morning, you can hide in the sun till you see the light.
Very nice comment
@@curgest6807 Thank you
side note: stargazer is one of the best fucking metal/rock songs ever, dios vocals are insane
I feel like araki wanted to keep the time stop ability around cause it's so cool but he couldn't keep dio alive so he gave it to jotoro
as he should😭. you can kind of tell that he really likes it being that almost every main antagonist after him has had some form of time bending powers
im still finding it funny that kakyoin got donuted and yeeted into a water tower to figure out the worlds power and kira just got barraged once by sp and 'ITS ALMOST AS IF HE STOPPED TIME!' 😂
😂😂 Jotaro is just HIM. it’s crazy that we never see SP one shot anyone like King Crimson or The Wolrd
@@MomoshikiTheJanitor Yeah
@@MomoshikiTheJanitor yeah, Jotaro is too kind to his enemies. SP could do that, but he just doesn't fancy killing
He absolutely could. The first time he punched Dio, he flew a whole city block and his leg fell off. The Second time, Dio’s brain stopped functioning correctly. The third time, he shattered completely. We need an evil Jotaro cut of SC. it’d be like 7 episodes long
@@MomoshikiTheJanitor please no-
I remember reading a theory somewhere, I think maybe on Reddit, saying that time being stopped is only capable by extremely fast stands such as The World and Star Platinum that are able to reach a certain speed, basically implying Jotaro vs Dio is a battle of speed. Since Dio is a vampire with increased strength, he’s able to move faster and improve his speed overtime which leads him to move fast enough to stop time for 10 seconds for example, while Jotaro only being a human is only able to move fast enough to stop time for 5 seconds or so. This could explain why the only other stand user who’s been able to move in stopped time is Pucci with made in heaven since his whole ability is about speed.
Based on what Enya tells us, I’m more in line to think that when she has the strength and speed, she means that he is the absolute best that there ever was, therefore, he should be able to stop time. But I do think that Speed is essential in its use, given that when he attempted to see exactly how fast his stand was against a shotgun, he accidentally discovered the time stop ability.
Pucci on the other hand, practically bullied his way into the time stop and was able to move, giving credence to the idea that only though with the greatest of capabilities and most willful users can ever breach that domain. In addition, Pucci was able to push time forward at an accelerated rate, showing that when he evolved, he too could command time itself in both his on way, as well as the way Dio did before him
Yeah I've seen this theory. I've also seen others debunk it. While it does make sense that The World/Star Platinum are so fast that they slow down time to a halt, it is also a fact that time itself stops and it has nothing to with speed, because both Jotaro and Dio are perfectly conscious when they couldn't move in the other's stopped time. If it was about speed, Jotaro and Dio would simply not experience what is happening in said stop time when their stamina runs out, like the others who lack the ability. But they can still see, hear, feel... etc everything.
yeah, that theory can’t be correct, otherwise Red Hot Chili Pepper and Tower of Grey would be able to do the same
Stands are based off the users fighting Spirit and it's showing very well, that that spirit is heavily linked to their talents and passions as well as their nature as a person. If you ask me, I think Jotaro and DIO just have the same kind of stand because they are similar people on some really deep level deeper than their moral selves or their presentation
first off, both DIO and Jotaro are extremely analytical, both have anger issues, both are fast thinkers (which I honestly think is probably the biggest key to this, thinking so fast through a situation that's almost like time stops and that second limitation is ultimately how much you can thank yourself through that situation In a mere flash of a moment which is the stopped time. The stand ability pretty much just gives the agency within that flash itself, but as fast thinkers Jotaro didn't need it that much before, but what if he does think he has used it multiple times before, without even realizing it if only mostly to think through the situation.) also, it's kind of implied that Jotaro probably has a bad relationship with his father in the same way DIO did, DIO also shows resentment towards his father for how he treated his mother showing Dio was abit a mamas boy, and Jotaro literally killed DIO for his mom so kinda makes sense.
I do like this theory but I truly believe that it’s just a case that Star Platinum and the World both just are the same type of stand. There are examples of people manifesting stands with the same or similar abilities. Joseph’s Hermit Purple and Jonathan’s stand are the same type of stand with the same ability as they are stands that represent Hamon potentially being the source of Hamon. Ball Breaker is mentioned as a Stand of the Spin and was achieved, used, and even researched by past members of the Zeppeli family. Tomb of the Boom is another example of different people having the same type of stand and the two Rats from part 4 manifested the exact same stand and when Giorno cloned the turtle both turtles had the same stand ability at the same time.
Respect! At the end of the day, like you said, it is just a theory and none of it is confirmed. But I just can’t get behind the idea of only a select number of people having The World because it’s their stand’s ability. Just saying, their stands came with it, makes it a little odd when Pucci is able to move during time stop the first time he sees it, but Jotaro wasn’t the first time Dio used it. This is partly why I feel as though it’s something only those who are worthy of such an ability have to awaken it instead of just having it
But people having the same abilities has happened before and maybe fate brought the only three people capable of Time Stop together since we do know that fate brings stand users together in the JJBA universe. It’s one of those things that would be cool with an explanation but is much cooler left to mystery. Even Jotaro himself had no clue how and never found out why Pucci was able to move during it
I wanna compliment your theory with something and it's that the capabilities of a stand is often related to the type of person the stand user is. The best example is King Crimson, as Diavolo doesn't admit defeat ever, in fact he crumbles at the thought of having to ever lose in his life, so his stand changes his fate, he defies fate so hard that he ends in an eternal loop where the outcome is always the same.
Jotaro and Dio share the same fundamental trait, they take anything they want, no questions asked because they deserve it, they believe in their strength. There's a key difference of course, because Jotaro tells Kakyoin how he commits crimes with no guilt, but he doesn't see himself as evil, because there is true evil and that's not what makes him like that, that's just him being stubborn, unlike Dio who was ready to do anything for power. But other than that, they are the same people, they even share the same fate: Killing a member of each other's family, but years later being prosecuted by their legacy and killed (then Jolyne's legacy, which was Emporio, killed Pucci and ended the idea of Dio). This trait is so powerful it gives them the power to stop the world, Jotaro doesn't rename the ability, he takes the world from Dio and says it every time: This is my world and I can do whatever I want. The more I want it the more I can pause time, that's why a weak and recently comatose Jotaro reached his longest timestop in his last battle against Pucci, he now had someone to care for more than anything, his spirit was at its peak, no wonder why Araki calls it the strongest stand.
Yeah, totally agree. I think stands are absolutely decided by their personalities like Josuke who was inspired by the stranger that helped him in his time of need, so his stand allows him to heal others, Fugo with his extremely unstable Purple Haze or even Alessi who cowardice makes him pick on the weak so his stands turns people into kids.
Only the pinnacle of stands and stand users can command/bend reality (Giorno’s second stand, Yoshikage Kira, Diavolo, and Pucci. All time related), So Jotaro and Dio being so similar as well and being drawn together by fate (the cycle of hatred) like you said, makes sense. Only those who want something enough and have the will power to take it, will ever reach that level because it’s the pinnacle of Stands, much like Enyaba said about The World
It would make sense if Jonathan’s body had a stand because I do not know where DIO keeps his knifes.
the ol prison wallet. Dio did say in Phantom Blood that he isn’t above any means to defeat a Joestar
Johnathan's body does have a stand. It's the same as hermit purple. Dio used it before they got on the plane and fought Tower of Gray.
alright 👍
@@unitedgamingalliance772That really bothers me for some reason. A stand is supposed to represent the users personality, but if you learned Hamon, you’re out of luck and you get some vines? Really lame and nonsensical tbh. I understand that we saw a Hermit-purple like Stand in DIO‘s Hand, but initially DIO was just supposed to have every stand, it‘s just that Araki changed it because it would’ve been too OP. That also would’ve explained Jotaro‘s time stop better, because DIO just uses everyone’s stand and timestop would be Jotaro‘s. That reveal would have been really cool. And with Joseph in Jojolion also having HP and not being a Hamon User, I think that theory of Hamon User = Hermit Purple like stand doesn’t hold true, thank god. It makes a lot more sense that is is just tied to Joseph because he likes predicting stuff and I‘d rather have DIO‘s vine stand be a retconned detail rather than ruin the logic behind the nature of Stands
Star Platinum should not have kept getting nerfed
Jotaro should never have let his ability get as weak as it did knowing how dangerous stand users are and have been, especially after DIU. that should have been his wakeup call to train it to at least 10 seconds. *Stone Ocean Spoiler* He might’ve stopped Pucci if he did
@@MomoshikiTheJanitor Yea he would need the 5 extra seconds in Stone Ocean
@@grey3649 he only got nerfed like once
@Anime characters
in part 3 jotaro stood up to beat dio whole having broken bones
in part 4 he was able to bear up kira while his body is full of holes
in part 5 pucci damaged jotaro's neck which nearly killed him
jotaro got nerfed 2 times
@@MomoshikiTheJanitorJotaro in late part 6 is officially nerfed also stat-wise. In his new stats, Star Platinum's Durability or Permanence is dropped from A to E, and his potential or Learning from A to C. Also let's not forget that Jotaro has reduced muscle mass from his coma in late part 6. Check out Stone Ocean manga chapter 149 for the stats.
Pretty good analysis. Though the conclusion that everyone can stop time, provided their stands have an A in speed and strength, seems a bit off to me. But the fact that almost all the main villains with the strongest stands in this series also gain some sort of time manipulation ability throughout their own journeys, does seem to lend it credence.
I've seen another theory that goes 'Jotaro's true ability is to copycat other stands, he just doesn't do so because he doesn't know/believe it hard enough', and to me it seems just as likely.
The videogame seems to back it up too.
Yeah, I know that 'Eyes of heaven' isn't canon, but setting that aside, seeing jotaro magically get himself a heaven stand just because dio has one, felt like a massive asspull, even more so than the original, but if Jotaro's original ability from the start was just to copycat, then it would make sense that he could get himself a heaven stand the moment he saw one.
Overall I'm left feeling a little conflicted between which theory to beleive, but I'm leaning more towards yours than the other one.
Yeah, I guess I should clarify that I don’t think just anyone could perform such a feat as Time stop. Rather, stands of the highest form can do so, which is what Enyaba meant when she said it makes sense that Dio would rule the world because he was the pinnacle of stands at that point before Star Platinum showed up. But like you said, all of the strongest stands we’ve seen before have all been time related and it’s almost as if Stands begin to bend the regular rules of reality once they’ve attained a certain level which is a pretty cool thought i hadn’t noticed before.
But dod you like the game? I played it briefly with a friend back when I was watching Battle Tendancies for the first time but I only used Hamoan characters to avoid spoilers. I’m thinking about diving back into it
But if Jotaro was a copy cat, I would have loved to see him get Bite’s The Dust. One of the coolest abilities imo
@@MomoshikiTheJanitor unfortunately, since I usually game on pc, and it didn't get a port, I didn't actually get to play it, but I did watch a full playthrough of the story mode here on youtube. From what I've seen it's a fun looking game, and it's honestly pretty great that we can see all the Jojo's finally interact with each other in some format.
The new Jojo fighting game doesn't seem to have a story mode of it's own, so I'm gonna wait for a sale before I buy it on steam.
@@Sammy-qx5mx No port? that’s horrible since not every jojo fan plays playstation
But I definitely wondered what things would be like seeing Jonathan interact with any of his family being that the tree is so huge and he died before getting to meet any of them. But yeah, lacking a story mode is a major miss for me, so a price drop would have to be in order for me to justify buying basically an arcade fighter with one mode
He can use TW for the same reason Dio could use Hermit purple's spirit photography. They were linked. It was also the first part that had stands and Araki did a lot of experimenting.
There was definitely a lot of experimenting. Even up to Golden Wind since we see Giorno’s stand get pierced with the arrow 3x throughout the whole story. Thankfully, the system is a lot more defined and established with actual rules we can refer to for the most part but he’ll continue to experiment until he eventually decides to stop writing this series😭
Nice video, i hope that you become a great youtuber one day considering how you're pretty good at doing vids
what background music were you using? Its familiar but i cant seem to remember
I seriously appreciate your support, thank you!
But thanks for reminding me, I added the link to the background song is in the video description so definitely check it out cause it’s actually heat🥵
But it’s a lowfi remix of Il Vento D’oro
Ay, great video! Really good editing and also great analysis since a lot of people like to say it's just luck.
Yeah, I think Araki is a lot more impressive than people give him credit for. There are some genuine moments of brilliance in his work and I’m here to show the people.
Just between you and me, I’ve got a Diavolo and Buccialati Video in the works🤫
My head-cannon Is that Time stop isn't The Worlds true power, Its Star Platinum's power. What The World *can* do is this: Copy the power of any of the Joestars stands. Dio has always taken everything from the Joestars, so why would abilities be out of the question? Its why he can use Hermit Purple as well. If Josuke where there somehow, he would be able to restore as well. Dio (In spite of his name.) Has always been a similar character to Lucifer if you ask me, and Lucifer infamously can only produce inferior copies of Gods works. Same situation here.
I like this since it doesn’t use the logic of the vines being Jonathan‘s stand. People who think that explain it by every Hamon User getting a stand like this, which is not how Stands are supposed to work. They represent you, not your breathing style. And this logic fits DIO‘s jealous nature perfectly
Hell underrated channel. Just got a new subscriber mate
💪💯 I appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed
This also means that The World can use Star Finger.
Technically any stand could use star finger, since all his did was focus his energy into a single point (literally) on his stand😭
Great video man! New sub here for sure!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. Be on the lookout for a new JJBA video tomorrow at 4:30p👀
Theres many examples of similar stands, especially if the users share a blood relation. Even within the same part we say that the darby brothers had nearly identical stand abilities. Jotaros star platinum could always stop time, he just hadn't had enough time to discover this ability and mainly relied his stands speed and power in fights, while dio focused more on training his time stop over his other abilities.
so hypothetically, Crazy Diamond could stop time. its essentially identical to Star Platinum and The World in every way aside from timestop
Jonathan Joestar's body that passes on the spiritual connection when DIO awakened his Stand.
I think it’s pretty cool that they all awakened their stands at the same time because of it. it really pushes the whole fate narrative that JJBA always leans into
"the worldo" lmfao
Excuse me sir, I'm a music nerd and that Jojo beat is absolutely fire. Could some please direct me to it? Thank you.
Edit: nvm I checked the description. Great video.
Also, SP never had an "ability." Super punches and star finger led one to believe that there was something... More to this stand. I always belive araki had this in mind. Even tw and sp's designs are similar. Usually i have a problem with ass pulls, but i think thia is why to many this didnt feel like one.
Literally! that channel makes all kinds of bangers out of Jojo themes. but yeah, i really liked the reveal and thought that it made sense. SP was always pulling out new tricks
Would've been cool if the mobius strip speeds up Jolyne to a point for her to stop time.
People can say that it’s an ass pull for plot convenience, but I genuinely think stopping time is a good fit as a power for Jotaro’s personality.
As it seems that stands really don’t care if you are fully developed, we see that even when kids have stands, they reflect what they’ll be later in life. Which doesn’t make sense personality wise but considering how fate and destiny are so integral to JoJo, it makes sense.
So DIO can stop time cause he was stuck at the bottom of the ocean for a hundred years. For him time stopped for him and him alone, he was alone. In his own little world. When he emerged, he was a man out of time, but still with that god complex for him to rule the world, have total control. Do as he pleases, have nothing to fear. No one can move against him. He’s also a vampire, so in a way he’s timeless. He’s a man stuck in the past, and the future, and toys with the present moment. So he can stop time with The World.
Jotaro was a seventeen year old kid who’s whole world got turned upside down, his mothers life was put in danger, he met his grandfather for the first time, he felt like he was possessed by an evil spirit, he had to go on a 50 day journey across the world to fight a vampire and kill him, while under constant attack, made the best friends he’s ever had, and wasn’t there to see most of them die. He was constantly against the clock, racing and rushing. And after all that he would forever remember that, be stuck in those 50 days in his head, haunting him. Wishing he’d had more time with them, wishing he could be everywhere at once move freely around the world, keep it safe. To have no fear of all the threats that lurk. To no longer get jumped and attacked. To have enough time to fix everything. He also wanted to keep the world out of DIOs hands, to remove his control and stain. So Star Platinum The World, can stop time.
Of course, neither got everything they wanted, DIOs world got invaded and torn asunder, him along with it. Jotaro could only stop time, and quickly intervene, not rewind it.
So long story short, Jotaro being able to stop time = fitting.
04:32 there is also Jotaro's anger. Righteous anger is part of justice. And paraphrasing Emporio "walking the path of fate/faith is true justice".
Jotaro walks that path and it offsets / counters Dio's power.
Somewhere in the big fight Dio refers to his Stand as the "World of Stillness".
Jotaro's anger prevents him from being still.
Star platinum was going to be named the world but dio took the name
king crimson stops time
And Pucci moves during Jotaro’s time stop in Stone Ocean. In addition to having his own time ability. And King crimson is crazy because he also erases time😭. But time abilities are usually reserved for the best stands out there
So it's a bit on that direction, but not exactly
The main thing I disagree is a little point. It's not the "mind set + buff stand = time stop" is more like "mind set -> the stand "
Like the Will of the character is what determines their stand capabilities
Then Dio and jotaro's mind set gave them a buff guy that stops time
And josuke's Will Gave him a buff guy that can regenerate things
The question that both options bring is that : Wtf was the mind set of the wheel of fortune's user to get the same ability as a Monkey? They both have the ability to upgrade technology and control its form.
The difference is that they used different objects
My theory for why Araki chose the same ability for Jotaro and Dio is because this fight is more deeper than just two guys punching each other till death, but rather fight between ultimate force of good and evil. Dio lost because he was focused on himself and the fact that his pride and ego were damaged because some random 17 year old kid was able to match him. He became angry and lost his cool leading him to his death. On the other hand Jotaro's only goal was to kill Dio to save his mom, he didnt think about himself, his goal is heroic. Anger Dio caused him only boosted his will to kill him. His anger was caused by death of his friends and was selfless.
I think the stopping time thing is just a Jo star thing and dio could do it bc he’s in Johnathan bottles
What’s that surprisingly good music?
plot armour or related to jonathan stand i guess
I'd have to disagree with this theory not only because imo it's a bit farfetched to begin with, but also based on the fact that assuming time stop is a trait that generally can be developed by anyone capable, it implies that Jotaro and DIO have Stands that don't have unique abilities. I would imagine Araki wouldn't leave his most iconic JoJo and most iconic villain without proper abilities but rather a universal ability that anyone is capable of, so I highly doubt this is the case. It would also just be an odd thing to imply that anyone can time stop, but never truly develop the idea any further in another character in any of the many parts proceeding
I'd imagine if this theory were truly the case, then it would probably be treated like (Fut. Sigh.) Haki in One Piece where you have your unique ability, but also this universal one on the side, and most of the strongest in the world commonly possess it
Also 4:09 none of the light novels are canon. If you wanted a proper source for Jonathon's Stand being similar to Hermit Purple, you could site chapter 9 of SC 👍
So I just wanted to clarify that I don’t think that just anyone could stop time. In the video I heavily emphasize what Enyaba means by speed and strength, not that the feats themselves are entirely important, rather it’s to basically mean that the two stands are what they would consider the pinnacle of stands at the time. And we know that every stand that is among the strongest of the bunch, tend to develop or have time stop abilities. I think it’s perfectly fine for Dio and Jotaro to not have a unique ability, it doesn’t take away from their characters in anyway, in fact i think it makes them better since they didn’t need them to be the best
But the important part is that Enyaba also states that you must believe that you can do it. The problem is, how would Enyaba know any of this or be able to instruct Dio on his stand’s “unique ability”? And the fact that Jotaro is able to peform the exact same ability, as well as Pucci in Stone Ocean, lends credence to the fact that any one can learn it (Pucci was able to move during time stop twice, surprisingly Jotaro the same way he did to Dio)
@@MomoshikiTheJanitorwhen did Pucci move in Time stop for the second time? He moved once when jotaro threw the spear and then when?
In the manga, when he attempts to stop the knives from hitting Jolene, the panels show Pucci looks at Jotaro and being moving before the knives have been shown to start moving signifying that time resumed. But the anime actually clears it up, showing and sounding that time resumed before Pucci moved. So it was only the once
im pretty sure its because When jonathans body sent out the distress signals it made them get similar stands to dio and jonathan (Hermit purple and star platinum) what i mean is that weve seen jonathans stand and its very similar to josephs so maybe jotaro could get a stand similar to dio
"The worldo"
Many people say here that really fast stands like SP and TW, even Made in Heaven, are capable of moving in stopped time. But MIH having that feat isn't exactly right. Firstly, only C-Moon was able to just subconsciously see in stopped time and dodge the spear, while Mih gets surprised when he sees Jotaro time stop and teleport in front of him after Pucci cut his neck. If he saw him in stopped time like before, he wouldn't need to react to him and would immediately dodge, like he did with the spear. And secondly, Mih's ability isn't to make Pucci himself fast, but to make time move faster. Meaning Pucci has his normal speed from his perspective, he isn't light speed or anything, Jotaro's group is just slow as snails compared to him. MIH's ability and goal is to have the end of the universe and the birth of a new one come early, not in billions of years, but just like 30 minutes, without people dying so that they live through all their future and know their fates in the new universe.
Yeah, I don’t agree with people being able to speed blitz their way into time stop. Otherwise Red Hot Chilli Pepper and Tower of Grey solo Dio. Maybe C-Moon was able to do it since it’s technically born of Dio’s DNA and therefore is second nature for him, versus MIH which is a new stand entirely. But then again, we have no way of truly knowing how he dodged that spear except for pure speculation. We need an interview with Araki asking all of the REAL important questions🙄
Jotaro speed blitzes everyone (except for MIH) after part 3, meaning that getting on par with Star Platinum in speed and thus being able to stop time is really rare (probably impossible) for anyone else apart from Dio and Jotaro
I agree. Pucci was able to move during time stop before he even achieved MIH, and he was one of three people in the universe to have done so. I believe that it’s only those who are the best of the best who have the right to do so as Enyaba puts it
@@MomoshikiTheJanitor Pucci's case is weird...Because even though C-Moon was able to (only subconsciously btw) see Jotaro throwing the spear in stopped time, it happened not because he was a really fast stand, but because he controls gravity and gravity is intertwined with time (although it doesn't make sense from a scientific standpoint for Pucci to control gravity or time in a situation where they both are stopped and non existent). Also, only C-Moon was able to barely move in time stop, not Made in Heaven, because Pucci with MIH gets surprised by Jotaro appearing in front of him after he thought he had killed him. If he was able to see Jotaro in stopped time like before, he wouldn't need to react to him and would immediately dodge, like he did with the spear. And, again, from a scientific standpoint, it doesn't make sense for MIH Pucci to move in stopped time because his ability is to accelerate time and you can't exactly accelerate time when time is completely stopped and thus non existent.
The above means that it doesn't make sense for MIH to shorten stopped time either. If the passing of time inside stopped time (see? it already doesn't make sense) was affected with the same acceleration effect as normal time during Made in Heaven's first two attacks (when 1 minute passes every 2 seconds), Jotaro's TS would be not 5,3 or even 1 second, but only 0,14 seconds. This would be even worse in Pucci's final attack, when time is accelerated even more. And in that final attack we clearly see Jotaro move for longer than 1 second for sure, because he counts the seconds himself. You could say Jotaro learned to stop time for a longer amount in just a few minutes. But that means he had to make his time stop over 35 times longer in less than 5 minutes.This means Jotaro could always extend his time stop from 5 seconds to 3 minutes in 5 minutes(!), which clearly isn't true, as shown in previous parts.
In conclusion, Time stop is shortened when Jotaro tries to use it against MIH for the first time, but then it somehow returns back to 5 seconds in the next scene... that's clearly a plot hole if you ask me. Araki most likely forgot lol. But in all seriousness, Jotaro's time stop was shortened the first time either because Araki didn't figure yet how accelerated time and stopped time scientifically interact with each other or because if Jotaro had 5 seconds in that instance, he could have easily super jumped like in Part 3 over to Pucci and finish the part right there.
I’ve said this in response to another comment, but I don’t think Pucci speed blitzed his way into time stop. Otherwise, tower of grey (who’s canonically faster than Jotaro) would also be capable of it. When I mention the speed and power comment by Enyaba, it wasn’t meant to say that only those fast enough can move in time stop. it’s to say that Dio’s The World was by far the pinnacle of any Stand user she’d seen and commented that he must have the right because of this. Only the best of the best can command time, but the important part is to believe that you can. Which is why I believe that Jotaro was able to do so, not only because he was a match for and superior to Dio, but because he was mentally able to, more than any other person in the series save for Pucci. I don’t think that just anybody fast enough can do it.
I do agree, however, that Jotaro is nerfed. He even says so in DIU due to him having not stopped time for 10 years. In the end, pucci just became too strong for him
@@MomoshikiTheJanitor thank you for your answer but I don't think you are giving me a good answer. I said that Pucci doesn't move in stopped time because of fast speed, like you said, but because of gravity being interviewed with time. And I also said it doesn't make sense for any version of Pucci to move or see in stopped time because gravity and time which he affects, do not exist in stopped time. You are saying that Pucci moved in time stop because, like Jotaro and Dio, he was also one of the best mentally and spiritually. But his abilities shouldn't allow him to do that and also having great mental power is a trait of many other characters in Jojo, like Giorno and more. Could they move in stopped time as well even though their abilities don't affect or stop time? (Ger's return to zero isn't a time stand really, it returns the attacker's will to zero, not time)
ah, i misread your 2nd comment. It appeared as though you said he was able to move during time stop because he had a fast stand. But even so, I never believed that speed was required to do so
But even without that, I definitely see your point. I don’t think that having time abilities is required to be able to function within it. Honestly, a stand’s actual ability shouldn’t matters in the long run of being able to do it. I don’t think MIH plays a factor into it. If anything, I think the fact that MIH has an entirely different time bending ability plays into the idea that the pinnacle of a stand and it’s user are granted abilities that alter time. IE: Diavolo, Jotaro, Pucci, Dio, Yoshikage Kira. In my eyes, time stop, or any time bending ability is essentially an upgrade to users, with the one exception being Diavolo who not only has two time based abilities but was also just given his. (predicting the future and stopping/erasing time)
but at the end of the day, it’s just a theory and none of it’s confirmed. If you agree then great, but if you don’t then I absolutely understand, since it’s not perfect. I don’t outright think it’s a plothole lol but I do wish we had things explained a little bit more in depth
bro its not that complicated star platinum must have an ability and that ability happens to stop time bucz every stand must have
Ngl, Jotaro can just Timestop too and since TW used it first he just took the Name over.
Jotaro versus GER, ah I see, so Star Platinum and Golden Experience Requiem are the same type of stand.
that sounds like a cursed fight lol. Personaly I think SP:TW takes it since Giorno’s isn’t meant to harm, but psychologically arresting its opponent. So long as SP can stop time for as long as he did againt Pucci or Dio, he’ll be fine
But its not that only that type of stand is the pinnacle of stands, rather, SP and The World can command The World because they are who they are and have the will to do so.
GER on the other hand is more in line with other stands which seemingly can bring forth great power through the arrow only because its user was capable enough to command it and why Polnereff couldn’t with his. And every time that a stand evolves to that higher tier of power, their powers seemingly bend reality because their users are willed/powerful enough to be able to do so
3:01 W opinion
🤝you know it!
It’s either Za Wārudo or The World. You cannot combine the two.
It was basically the same stand.
I want to point out that Diego Brando was able to use The World to stop time for 5 seconds whereas Jotaro was limited to 2 to 5 seconds depending on his physical condition. The implication here is that Star Platinum has a weaker time stop than The World.
no. Jotaro didnt stop time for 10 years in part 4, but he came back to his prime in part 6
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The one dislike was from Dio.
“But it was I, DIO!”😈😭
I am surprised this vids is 5:50 mins long the answer is simple it is because Dio pissed Jotaro off.
😂the only canon explanation
so its the same of stand as GER
What if star platnuim reqruim can duplicate other stand abilities like star platnuim: king crimson etc,
That would be absolutely busted. i’m actually kind of curious what two stands i’d want to copy first. what would you do?
Because onaji taipu no stando da
Translation for anyone curious: It’s the same type of stand
Maybe The word and star platuim is siniral stand but evovle in other way The word Have got More time stop but is weaker that star platuim
Star platuim is oposide of the word stroger fisicly but worst in Time stop becose he din't know of it
(P.S you gona find some Bad english here in this)
No worries on the english. I can’t read anyhow. But it’s definitely an interesting theory, since we do know that SP ended up being stronger than The World. I do think that if Jotaro continued to train his time stop, that he would’ve been able to do it much longer than Dio but that’s also just a theory based on my interpretation
You're telling me if okuyasi believed it enough he can stop time and scrape the strongest users out of existance☠️
No because The Hand isn't the same type of stand
the hand isnt like star platinum, the world, crazy diamond, and king crimson are tho
It is an asspull that ruined part 3 for me. Killed the hype.
I like this theory... however, I do not think Crazy Diamond or Stone Free could stop time. I feel what allows both Star Platinum and The World to stop time is not only there being similar stands as in both are close range power, but also due to both having immense speed and strength. Not only do they have to believe they can do it, but there stands also need to have the specific necessary qualities. While Crazy Diamond is close, it is not faster as Star Platinum (I don't beleive) and Stone Free is both not as fast and also much weaker than Star Platinum.
yeah I definitely agree. Not to say that they aren’t as willful as Jotaro, but Jotaro felt as though no one could beat him, not even Dio so long as he could get time to practice in the time stop. I do think that only The World and SP are capable of performing such a feat because of who their stand users are as well as their stands. Only the highest caliber of stands can control reality itself, which is why so many of our antagonists have/received time related powers
I don't think they can either. Crazy Diamond and Stone Free already have their unique powers of restoration and strings. Every stand has a unique power, and if you take away time stop from The World and Star Platinum then their abilities are "hitting hard and fast" which is something that Crazy Diamond, Gold Experience or Stone Free can also already do. So I do have to disagree with the conclusion. There are other stands that can rival their speed (or surpass it. Made In Heaven) and power (King Crimson and Weather Report have shown similar levels of brute strength), and they can't stop time either.
@@TheJotaroKujo Yeah, i try to heavily emphasize in the video that it’s not about the speed or even the strength. Rather when Enyaba says this, she means that he has the absolute most superior stand she’s seen ever seen, meaning that he deserves the right to stop time. Which is why only Dio, Jotaro and Pucci have been able to do so. I don’t think they move so fast that time appears stopped
Eyes of Heaven disproves this theory. To achieve heaven, you gotta do certain things for your stand to evolve. Jotaro achieves heaven by seeing The World Over Heaven, but belief alone doesn't achieve heaven
People can say that it’s an ass pull for plot convenience, but I genuinely think stopping time is a good fit as a power for Jotaro’s personality.
As it seems that stands really don’t care if you are fully developed, we see that even when kids have stands, they reflect what they’ll be later in life. Which doesn’t make sense personality wise but considering how fate and destiny are so integral to JoJo, it makes sense.
So DIO can stop time cause he was stuck at the bottom of the ocean for a hundred years. For him time stopped for him and him alone, he was alone. In his own little world. When he emerged, he was a man out of time, but still with that god complex for him to rule the world, have total control. Do as he pleases, have nothing to fear. No one can move against him. He’s also a vampire, so in a way he’s timeless. He’s a man stuck in the past, and the future, and toys with the present moment. So he can stop time with The World.
Jotaro was a seventeen year old kid who’s whole world got turned upside down, his mothers life was put in danger, he met his grandfather for the first time, he felt like he was possessed by an evil spirit, he had to go on a 50 day journey across the world to fight a vampire and kill him, while under constant attack, made the best friends he’s ever had, and wasn’t there to see most of them die. He was constantly against the clock, racing and rushing. And after all that he would forever remember that, be stuck in those 50 days in his head, haunting him. Wishing he’d had more time with them, wishing he could be everywhere at once move freely around the world, keep it safe. To have no fear of all the threats that lurk. To no longer get jumped and attacked. To have enough time to fix everything. He also wanted to keep the world out of DIOs hands, to remove his control and stain. So Star Platinum The World, can stop time.
Of course, neither got everything they wanted, DIOs world got invaded and torn asunder, him along with it. Jotaro could only stop time, and quickly intervene, not rewind it.
So long story short, Jotaro being able to stop time = fitting.