So it’s come to my attention that alt Diego couldn’t have got in his stand from the corpse parts because they only exist in the main SBR universe so that means Diego got The World by other means....
remember he comes from a AU we saw stand arrows in P3 in P6 we got stand discs then here we got corpse and a location so AU Diego got it from another source also could u do a video on GER infinite death
asta staria appreciation maybe he developed it like tonio developed pearl jam for his cooking? it would make sense as he’s a racer that he would practice going fast enough to the extent that he stops time to get a faster record. and as for the problem of the horse being frozen, as it is an au version of the world, it may have some differences.
Justice is the best Yeah, actually, Dio, during his fight with Jotaro uses it about 9 or so times, a lot of the fight, even with Awakened DIO, takes place in stopped time. That’s actually one of the problems with adapting this fight in my opinion, due to the medium it’s done in, this being in animated form, it’s extended while, in all honesty, the manga fight isn’t even that long and takes a couple minutes to read compared to the anime while it’s, like, an episode or 2.
I was thinking there’s a very small cooldown, like probably 2 or 3 seconds but the cooldown is shorter if he ends the timestop before the time limit is up.
@@oranberry In this case, I will agree with you when you say DIO does require stamina to use Time Stop but he requires so little it's not even really noticeable. He was casually stopping time to troll Polnarref and showed no signs of fatigue or actually just having used his ability
@@pupintheturdiii Wdym never really that solid? Its literally solid fact that the limit for humans using the world is 5 secs and that for a vampire like Dio with immense stamina they can last much longer. Dio only lasted 9 secs becuz he was still adapting to John's body
Alt Diego would've gotten his stand in a weird way- the corpse parts only exist in the main universe, so in Alt Diego's universe, there are no Devil's Palm or corpse parts to give him a stand
@@METAsMETAs bruh..... In JOJO part 7 Alt Diego got his stand [The World] right? But the corpse parts are only in the main universe of JOJO Steel ball run Then how it's possible? SIMPLE REALLY Alt Diego got his stand normally via Stand arrow Remember it's the infinite universe rule so THERE WILL BE ALWAYS AN ALT DIEGO WITH THE WORLD NORMALLY
The Stardust Crusaders and Nukutaku are all in the coffin room with where Dio supposedly is hiding. Dio: "Instead of easily killing all of them right then and there, I will troll them by putting Nukutaku in the coffin."
the funny thing is that for the expectators (the characters affected by ts) don't really realize that things just teleported out of nowhere. It's different, it's like something changed, but they didn't really notice it until it's done or something, kind of like how kc's time erasure works
Stands like 「ZA WARUDO」 and 「KINGU CURIMUSON」are my favorites not because of their physical capabilities but the psychological effects, imagine this, you go to punch someone, a second later, they aren’t there and you have a fatal injury. How did it happen?? When did it happen?? These questions linger in your mind before your life drains. That’s some scary shit bro.
I consider The World the strongest stand in JoJo. Every stand that does beat it is literally designed to counter time stop and has to go through some transformation to achieve that power. So without narrative hax I personally do think it cant be beat. The Diavolo argument is all dependent on how you think epitaph and time erasure works against time stop. Both have to be taken into consideration because without epitaph, time erasure isn’t consistent or effective. It’s the ability to know what’s going to happen and then changing it to give yourself an advantage is what makes King Ctimson so formidable. This is where the issue lies. So question now becomes how does epitaph predict time stop? Either epitaph see the moment before and jumps to the moment after or it sees everything that happen during the time stop stacked on top of itself in one instance which would be impossible to tell what’s going on. Personally I lean to the former but both would make the fight a nightmare for Diavolo . I’ve always loved how a simple concept like stopping time is so powerful.
really it just depends , KC's time erasure combined with epitaph is really OP,but it will mostly play out as whoever goes for an attack first likely loses,since KC can predict it's enemy's moves and just do its thing,and the world seems to have a reaction time pretty similar (if not better) to star platinum,wich literally can catch bullets and that one minuscule stand that tried to get into jotaro's ear,so if dio stands still(to avoid getting confused by the time erasure),then maybe he could react fast enough and time stop . But tbh, i think that the most OP stand that isn't designed to counter anything in particular has to be the green baby's stand from part 6,it is literally untouchable ,you can't kill it,and it's only automatic ,if can reduce any incoming thing to an atomic level,I think it might even nullify a nuclear bomb ,its so underrated
@@gtatielmehdi369 actually no, if dio attacked first then its over, diavolo will predict it see himself fine first then a donut the second he won't see the world because dio already recalled it in stopped time so he would think that dio wasn't the one to do it, he would try to look for another person in the area and die because he didn't erase time in time to save himself, if diavolo erased time first then he would just see dio scream the world and then see him change positions slightly, what happened was that dio carried out his movement of making a donut out of diavolo but he doesn't because diavolo can't be touched in erased time, diavolo would be confused since dio just teleported from his point of view diavolo would move behind dio end erased time then slice dio like everyone else but the difference is that dio stops time after being hit then kills diavolo because from his point of view he teleported behind him and almost killed him
@@D_us_T Well, it depends. Given how when time is frozen, things dont really HAPPEN in time, per say, but are caused outside of it, with only the effects showing up. So most likely diavolo just sees himself with a hole in his chest, not knowing what the hell happened. Plus, KC merely erases the CAUSE of something, the effects remain the same. Example, if you take a shot at diavolo and he uses KC, you wouldn't remember ever taking the shot, because technically it never happened. However, behind diavolo would be a bullet mark, as the EFFECT is still there. The problem with him fighting TW is that even though he erases the moment from everyones perception, dios STILL gonna stop time, and STILL gonna kill diavolo, dio just wouldn't know how he happened to kill him. Worse still, diavolo wouldn't be able to use KC to avoid TW attacking, because he can't dodge something thatll ALWAYS hit him, no matter what. But hey, thats my take on it, only Araki holds the answers. Tl:dr, due to how the abilities work, i think dio takes it, but it depends on Araki
Markus Beige Thats definitely a good point, but regarding time erase. Lets say diavolo saw dio donut him and decided to erase time to reposition himself. That would be 2 problems, for starters Diavolo wouldn’t remain at the same place when Dio stops time, so Dio would be hitting nothing in the stopped time. For Diavolo Dio would most likely just teleport in erased time and that would also confuse him. So it prob be something like: Diavolo lands the first hit after TE ends but Dio is a vampire and doesn’t die so he stops time again and kills Diavolo.
Just in case I want to tell you: -Dio can expend his time stop ability from second to hours -Za Warudo Stats is way higher than KC -KC defence/durability is E which make him super weak. Imagine a stand with A power like Za Warudo punching KC. It would 100% make KC crippled... - Za Warudo Durability is A and Dio has Jonathan body and he is a vampire which make him 2 times durable than normal humans. Even Jotaro punch break his skull and still survive... -Dio is vampire which make TS ability spamable because of his high stamina. And don't fight him after drinking Joestar Blood... -You cannot erase time if it stopped - if they both fight without any knowledge about theirs both ability. Diavolo would fucked up. Even he put a hole in Dio, he still could resist it and keep fighting...
I don't know why this guy isn't getting more and more views. I've watch his made in heaven video and it was great and I understand it very well. This guy deserve more subscribers and views
You are wrong about Dio, the whole final fight Dio was being careful. He didn’t want a repeat of what happened to him with Jonathan. He was testing Jotaro’s abilities and he was ready to end the fight until he discovered his time stop and this is where Dio became insanely careful in the fight with Dio doubting himself. This is what kept Jotaro alive long enough to actually land a critical hit. Dio is by no means the villan who is careless. If Dio was as rash and boastful as you said he was, he would have run straight to Joesph and Jotaro and attempt to kill them.
He spent his time stop in which Jotaro could not move anymore by drilling his finger into his skull His high form technically lived for about a minute or so because everything other is timestop
Alt diego probably got his stand like Rohan, developed it naturally sometime before part 7. Remember that Valentine had to seach for a pretty long time for that specific Diego, so he's probably from a dimension so far away that it starts to resemble part 1 universe.
I personally don’t think that’s the case since why would alt Diego develop a stand naturally but then sbr Diego or dio didn’t develop it naturally I mean it’s possible since alt universe are not exactly the same but it’s prob unlikely
@@therealwhoever how is sp better than tw when tw outclassed sp in speed and ts duration? Like literally dio only lost due to plot and him playing around with jotaro by wasting his ts
Found a mistake in your video, you said that AU Diego could have gotten his stand with the eye, which makes no sense because the corpse parts only exist in the main universe, in the other universes there must be some other way of obtaining a stand.
What about Cream? It's literally a void that erases everything it touches. You can't see the void either, which is why Polnareff and Iggy used The Fool's sand to track Cream. The only real weakness is that the user doesn't know where they're going and has to come out and look.
Theoretically it could defeat Golden Experience Requiem or Wonder Of U as one cream goes inside his stand he technically doesn't exist in the universe and you can't revert a action back to zero if the thing that attacked you doesn't exist same thing would happen to Wonder Of U if they ever met
Diego could have easily obtained his stand from an infinite amount of means. D4C can access an infinite number of parallel worlds. This question literally has infinite answers
I’ve never seen anyone bring up the fact that Scary Monsters is basically proof that turning into a dinosaur could possibly mean that dinosaurs are the SBR counterpart of the OG universes vampirism
The worlds time stop increases every time stop he trained it up to five seconds and went higher because immortal beings have the potential to increase their time stop capability
Jotaro could also increase/lose the length of time he could stop time when he used/stopped using it for period of time, but unlike dio whos body would always regenerate and never age (unless disintegrated completely by hamon or sunlight) Jotaro later began to experience strain from stopping time So immortal or not you can increase your limit, but without vampiric vitality youre not gonna be surviving for very long if you over use it
@@joule400 @joule400 actually it is stated that humans in jojo can max ts for 5s . Sp : so and twau could max ts for 5s . Also diego was only a little tired and had cooldowns but it didn't strain his heart
@@joule400 also tbh even 5s ts is really op . But imagine if diego or jotaro were vampires they could buff their stands + have a 1m ts and freezing + laser eyes abilities
Considering Dio was a vampire so his stand was boosted, Star Plat is definately better than The World. He would have killed dio many times if he wasn't immortal, and even without time stop god damn it, if he had it, Dio would literally have no chance to win. And actually, the canon JoJo states that Star Platinum is the strongest stand, and this is in part 6 so stop saying GER is stronger, if Araki said it's not, that simply means that while time is frozen GER ability won't work, it's not hard to understand.
@@tiziochehaigiavisto3976 dude, the statement that star platinum is the strongest stand was said before parts 4,5, and 6 was even thought of. GER would wipe the floor with Star Platinum
My theory is that Main universe Diego originally had the world but never awakened it and the corpse parts affected him by removing the world and replacing it with scary monsters.
The Jotaro and DIO fight is 15 minutes in real time, meaning that when you stress and practice the ability you learn it faster and faster with no real limit. If Jotaro wasn’t a good guy (meaning he wouldn’t need to be nerfed) it’s possible he’d be able to stop time for hours on end by the time Part 4 happens.
Actually no. It is stated that 5 seconds is limit for human body in time stop. Dio was able to stop more as he was a vampire. Because of this, only Dio could have stopped time for more than 5 seconds. It is the user, not stand which determine the time. So, Jotaro can't stop time for more than 5 seconds.
I mean like, the world is weaker than star platinum right? After taking in Joseph’s blood he still lost in the second fisticuffs match, didn’t he? Sure DIO’s own strength improved, (at least I think it did), and the world’s time stop increased, but in terms of durability, I think the world is not as good as star platinum. Also, AU Diego probably was born with the world.
dio was holding back the whole time he was letting his ego take control the longer the fight went on it got worse for him. plus dio was not a fully a vampire yet he didn't have all of his powers
METAs SP>World imo. SP throughout the whole fight had DIO scared to come near him and Jotaro was very confident in his chances against DIO in a close range fight even with his stand being able to move for only moments in comparison to DIO. DIO lost this fear due to his regeneration and Time stop increasing when Jotaro punched DIO he made wholes in him yet when Punched SP Jotaro got sent flying.
METAs not only that, its actually said during one of his talks with Enya (I forget the specific chapter) that he still wasn’t used to Jonathan’s body and that his left aside felt weaker. If you remember in the last fight, DIO has The World try to kick Star Platinum with the left leg, the side that DIO was weaker on, and since stand damage transfers.... yeah.
Well, we know that stands can get weaker or stronger depending on the user's will. I've always saw the death of Dio like this : His ego was crushed, because Jotaro invaded his world and even stole his power. He went in an instant from "I've won" to badly damaged. And his whole talk about doing cowardice things to survive was, in my opinion, just him justifying himself because he was livid to be forced to act like this to defeat Jotaro. So, ego crushed, The World weakened, plus he hit with his weak left side, against a Jotaro more determined than ever. So in my opinion, The World and Star Platinum are equal, but The World got beaten because of his user losing the will to fight.
1. Dio was embarrassing Jotaro for the majority of the fight. 2. DIO was in a body actively rejecting him. 3. He absorbed the blood of a Hmaon user which while did appear to boost would also work directly against him as well. 4. DIO was being cocky and not taking the fight seriously. 5. The World and Star Platinum are constantly referred to as the same stand which means one can’t be stronger that the other without outside aspects effecting it like mastery and until the very end DIO definitely had greater mastery over the stand.
Do people not realize DIO developed The World on his own? Like naturally? People are confused about alt Diego’s The World and more specifically how he got it. DIO/Diego’s stand across ever single universe ever is The World, main universe Diego only has scary monsters because he stole it from Dr. Ferdinand, I’m sure if he actually waited long enough he would’ve developed The World on his own but he got scary monsters first and you can’t have two stands.
if you stop time for 10 seconds but your body keeps aging because it still wearing down it would mean you eventually could die earlier of old age right?
Remember watching Stardust Crusaders as a kid. The World legit scared me as a kid because Dio almost killed everyone and the only reason Jotaro won because he said The World is the same type of Stands as Star Platinum.
7:00 I remember funny saying that there are no corps parts in other universes So what I like to think is that in the other Diego's universe stand arrows exist or a other version of the arrows
Dio didn’t have lifespans to train time stop. He only had The World for ~2 months. Him awakening the stand was what caused Holly to fall ill in the first place, which started the Crusaders on their journey.
The holy Corpse only exists in the main universe, I think Diego didn't get his stand until after he was brought through to our universe by Funny Valentine, his proficiency with The World might be explained by his intelligence and ability to adapt.
Diego would have gotten his stand through some other matter rather than through the corpse part, because funny valentine said that the corpse part is unique to their universe
The fact that Dio can stop time for more than 5 seconds isn't thanks to his stand but thanks to the fact that he's a vampire, The more he absorbed blood from the Joestars the more he became a vampire and gained his superhuman stamina, Same for the fact that he can spam time stop
I think we sorta forgot about the heavens plan being, Dio's The World just sh^tting on everything that ever literally "happened." But that's just a cherry on the top of why ZA WARUDO is spoopy.
What's there to fear you'll just skip to the part your dead and it wouldn't hurt. Vs the world you'll see death comming at ya or find a hole in you and feel looming death
Over 100 years old vampire with a terrifying stand that could stop time trolls his enemies by stopping time, picking his enemy up and putting him down the stair again and again when his enemy tries to go up and getting killed by them in the end.
Vampiric abilities dont make stands in any way Stronger and thats obvious because vampirism effects are only to body not to soul or mind. Hamon and spin are exceptions because they are energy and stands are too so they can interact just like hermit purple do
I always thought the time stop had a cool down. They probably didn't say that but i always thought after a timestop that just couldn't use it for a certain amount of time
The World is my favorite Stand, It's decently OP and Serves all most everything you would want from a stand, power, speed, precision, good defense, and good offence. Honestly The best stand yet
Its not like an over heaven stand "pal" its evolution of gravity, yes hes stronger, but you making him like as strong as oh, when he isnt even that close to twoh.
Well pucci cucker did the heaven plan and well when dio did it we get the world over heaven so we could just call pucci's stand whitesnake over heaven but we don't cuz it has been given another name
My favorite stand/user is Killer Queen/Kira and I'll tell ya how he'd "win" by losing. No bombs. Killer Queen bites the dustoo at some moment within The World's time freeze. If Kira is aware of this he can set his timer to that. In essence trapping Dio in a timeless state. Dio would eventually figure this out and realize the only way to win: is not to play.
I don’t think it was DIO being cocky. He just didn’t want history to repeat itself like with Jonathan. He was overly careful and trying to think around how to go about killing him. The only reason he had lost is because of jotaro’ own intellectual capabilities. He had tricked dio on various occasions and found ways to counter. Additionally, araki actually made dio too strong. He just gave star platinum time stop for the sake of him to win. That’s all.
honestly people don't really give d4c enough credit, it leaves valentine's body after he dies (as shown by wandering d4c after valentine got infinite rotationed) and finds another valentine, so the only real way to beat him is wait for him to die of old age (no grateful dead doesn't count, all of the separate universes seem to have the same character age). The only way this strategy doesn't work is if there are universes with vampire valentine or younger valentines, in which case the old age strat falls apart entirely, and he's just unkillable. edit: I forgot that you could break the stand, yeah that would probably work, ironic that I forgot about that when that's literally what happened to the focus stand of this video lmao
I still wanna say that star platinums ability is to learn one other stand users power at a bit of a nerfed rate and he just never knew it until his life was in danger, just a little theory ofc it is probably wrong.
Steel Ball Run, as stated by Funny Valentine, the corpse parts are exclusive to the SBR universe. Alternative universes have less valuable treasures to supplement the corpse parts. Funny Valentine went to a different universe that had a Dio and informed him of Johnny's stand.
Remember in part 7 how Diego was able to stop time with his horse. hamon beat said he was only able to move his horse with his stand by picking it up and moving it, but doesn't that seem kind of stupid? I personally believe that in time stop Diego's horse was able to move like how he was able to through the knifes in time stop until his timer ended. So why wouldn't it be the same with Diego's horse, course we saw when Diego stopped time his horse to be frozen. But maybe Araki had different plans in mind? idk I found it strange for Diego to straddle his horse over the same distance his horse would run at
Because only Diego is conscious during time stop? I dunno what to tell you. If you find The World picking up the horse stupid, fine. But that's the most logical explanation
Nice vid! Tho looks like you forgot the corpse exists only in one universe, the alternate Diego got The World through some other means possibly the diamonds the racers are looking for in parallel Steel Ball Runs that are there instead of corpse parts
So it’s come to my attention that alt Diego couldn’t have got in his stand from the corpse parts because they only exist in the main SBR universe so that means Diego got The World by other means....
remember he comes from a AU we saw stand arrows in P3 in P6 we got stand discs then here we got corpse and a location so AU Diego got it from another source also could u do a video on GER infinite death
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Perhaps it was his stand by birth?
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asta staria appreciation maybe he developed it like tonio developed pearl jam for his cooking? it would make sense as he’s a racer that he would practice going fast enough to the extent that he stops time to get a faster record. and as for the problem of the horse being frozen, as it is an au version of the world, it may have some differences.
The fight between Jotaro and DIO canonically takes place in 4 minutes, any longer and Joseph wouldn’t have been able to come back to life at all.
They fight while spamming ts
No One Kind of, but the ability requires at least a few seconds before it can be used again
Edit: I'm wrong
Justice is the best Yeah, actually, Dio, during his fight with Jotaro uses it about 9 or so times, a lot of the fight, even with Awakened DIO, takes place in stopped time. That’s actually one of the problems with adapting this fight in my opinion, due to the medium it’s done in, this being in animated form, it’s extended while, in all honesty, the manga fight isn’t even that long and takes a couple minutes to read compared to the anime while it’s, like, an episode or 2.
BlandyBoi Actually, if you count, he stops time 9 or so times. Maybe more.
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remember when dio was doing his teleport thing? he was basically doing sneaky time stops, the worlds time stop ability is spammable
Haha vampire go wryyy
@@oranberry unless he drink Joestar blood which in case is DIO on steroids...
I was thinking there’s a very small cooldown, like probably 2 or 3 seconds but the cooldown is shorter if he ends the timestop before the time limit is up.
@@oranberry In this case, I will agree with you when you say DIO does require stamina to use Time Stop but he requires so little it's not even really noticeable. He was casually stopping time to troll Polnarref and showed no signs of fatigue or actually just having used his ability
@@bakonman6611 meanwhile with king crimson
Well it's shown to be 9 seconds but Dio said himself that it can keep getting stronger and stronger with practically no limit.
I might have been high as fuck when I wrote this.
@@pupintheturdiii Wdym never really that solid? Its literally solid fact that the limit for humans using the world is 5 secs and that for a vampire like Dio with immense stamina they can last much longer. Dio only lasted 9 secs becuz he was still adapting to John's body
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*Jonathan's body
Impressive
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Alt Diego would've gotten his stand in a weird way- the corpse parts only exist in the main universe, so in Alt Diego's universe, there are no Devil's Palm or corpse parts to give him a stand
O FUCK YOUR RIGHT I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THAT
@@METAsMETAs bruh.....
In JOJO part 7
Alt Diego got his stand [The World] right? But the corpse parts are only in the main universe of JOJO Steel ball run
Then how it's possible?
SIMPLE REALLY
Alt Diego got his stand normally via Stand arrow
Remember it's the infinite universe rule so THERE WILL BE ALWAYS AN ALT DIEGO WITH THE WORLD NORMALLY
I know how multiverse theory works but I wanted to figure out how this alt Diego got it most likely it's a natural stand
plus its not "SIMPLE REALLY" there was no mention of stand arrows in part 7
@@METAsMETAs it is though, infinite realities, its bound to have one with stand arrows in a part 7
The Stardust Crusaders and Nukutaku are all in the coffin room with where Dio supposedly is hiding.
Dio: "Instead of easily killing all of them right then and there, I will troll them by putting Nukutaku in the coffin."
I remeber that dio try to kill them all but already 5 second so he killed nukataku
the funny thing is that for the expectators (the characters affected by ts) don't really realize that things just teleported out of nowhere. It's different, it's like something changed, but they didn't really notice it until it's done or something, kind of like how kc's time erasure works
Stands like 「ZA WARUDO」 and 「KINGU CURIMUSON」are my favorites not because of their physical capabilities but the psychological effects, imagine this, you go to punch someone, a second later, they aren’t there and you have a fatal injury. How did it happen?? When did it happen?? These questions linger in your mind before your life drains. That’s some scary shit bro.
Fr Ive always thought about how absolutely terrifying it would be to experience someone stopping time
I like the Summoning Sound of the Stands
ZA WARUDO
KINGU CREAMSON
Alt Diego and Jotaro have the same amount of time stop time, which leads me to believe that being a vampire increases the time limit
Yes that was explained in the anime already when dio and jotaro fought
No shit lmao
jotaro has less than 5 seconds, diego has 5, dio has 9 because he sucked josephs blood
I consider The World the strongest stand in JoJo. Every stand that does beat it is literally designed to counter time stop and has to go through some transformation to achieve that power. So without narrative hax I personally do think it cant be beat.
The Diavolo argument is all dependent on how you think epitaph and time erasure works against time stop. Both have to be taken into consideration because without epitaph, time erasure isn’t consistent or effective. It’s the ability to know what’s going to happen and then changing it to give yourself an advantage is what makes King Ctimson so formidable. This is where the issue lies. So question now becomes how does epitaph predict time stop? Either epitaph see the moment before and jumps to the moment after or it sees everything that happen during the time stop stacked on top of itself in one instance which would be impossible to tell what’s going on. Personally I lean to the former but both would make the fight a nightmare for Diavolo .
I’ve always loved how a simple concept like stopping time is so powerful.
I would think that Diavolo would see himself getting donut, then unknowingly erase time stop.
really it just depends , KC's time erasure combined with epitaph is really OP,but it will mostly play out as whoever goes for an attack first likely loses,since KC can predict it's enemy's moves and just do its thing,and the world seems to have a reaction time pretty similar (if not better) to star platinum,wich literally can catch bullets and that one minuscule stand that tried to get into jotaro's ear,so if dio stands still(to avoid getting confused by the time erasure),then maybe he could react fast enough and time stop . But tbh, i think that the most OP stand that isn't designed to counter anything in particular has to be the green baby's stand from part 6,it is literally untouchable ,you can't kill it,and it's only automatic ,if can reduce any incoming thing to an atomic level,I think it might even nullify a nuclear bomb ,its so underrated
@@gtatielmehdi369 actually no, if dio attacked first then its over, diavolo will predict it see himself fine first then a donut the second he won't see the world because dio already recalled it in stopped time so he would think that dio wasn't the one to do it, he would try to look for another person in the area and die because he didn't erase time in time to save himself, if diavolo erased time first then he would just see dio scream the world and then see him change positions slightly, what happened was that dio carried out his movement of making a donut out of diavolo but he doesn't because diavolo can't be touched in erased time, diavolo would be confused since dio just teleported from his point of view diavolo would move behind dio end erased time then slice dio like everyone else but the difference is that dio stops time after being hit then kills diavolo because from his point of view he teleported behind him and almost killed him
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So it's either jotaro vs diavolo Sprite battle or dio vs diavolo sprite animation
The World is more powerful but Diavolo and King Crimson are genuinely more terrifying
Dio is also a good user for TW due to him being a vampire, if Dio was human Diavolo with KC would most likely kill him thanks to epitaph.
louis torres dude idk what ur smoking but that is very wrong if we’re going by pvp but if we are kc ain’t shit cuz u can’t erase TIME STOP
@@D_us_T Well, it depends. Given how when time is frozen, things dont really HAPPEN in time, per say, but are caused outside of it, with only the effects showing up. So most likely diavolo just sees himself with a hole in his chest, not knowing what the hell happened. Plus, KC merely erases the CAUSE of something, the effects remain the same. Example, if you take a shot at diavolo and he uses KC, you wouldn't remember ever taking the shot, because technically it never happened. However, behind diavolo would be a bullet mark, as the EFFECT is still there. The problem with him fighting TW is that even though he erases the moment from everyones perception, dios STILL gonna stop time, and STILL gonna kill diavolo, dio just wouldn't know how he happened to kill him. Worse still, diavolo wouldn't be able to use KC to avoid TW attacking, because he can't dodge something thatll ALWAYS hit him, no matter what. But hey, thats my take on it, only Araki holds the answers.
Tl:dr, due to how the abilities work, i think dio takes it, but it depends on Araki
Dio Made a mother eat her own child
Markus Beige
Thats definitely a good point, but regarding time erase. Lets say diavolo saw dio donut him and decided to erase time to reposition himself. That would be 2 problems, for starters Diavolo wouldn’t remain at the same place when Dio stops time, so Dio would be hitting nothing in the stopped time. For Diavolo Dio would most likely just teleport in erased time and that would also confuse him.
So it prob be something like:
Diavolo lands the first hit after TE ends but Dio is a vampire and doesn’t die so he stops time again and kills Diavolo.
6:00 It lends credence to Speedwagon saying Dio was born evil. He’ll always be evil.
8:50 That's Jotaro's line you are stealing
Just in case I want to tell you:
-Dio can expend his time stop ability from second to hours
-Za Warudo Stats is way higher than KC
-KC defence/durability is E which make him super weak. Imagine a stand with A power like Za Warudo punching KC. It would 100% make KC crippled...
- Za Warudo Durability is A and Dio has Jonathan body and he is a vampire which make him 2 times durable than normal humans. Even Jotaro punch break his skull and still survive...
-Dio is vampire which make TS ability spamable because of his high stamina. And don't fight him after drinking Joestar Blood...
-You cannot erase time if it stopped
- if they both fight without any knowledge about theirs both ability. Diavolo would fucked up. Even he put a hole in Dio, he still could resist it and keep fighting...
You are just me from a different timeline
@@METAsMETAs sorry mate, I commenting in a wrong comment section. I was watching Za Warudo vs King Crimson. Didn't realize the video is switched...
LMAOOOO nice
@@METAsMETAs METAs:AU
Intelligence: A-
Common sense: B
Hard work: C
Life: E
METAs:
Intelligence :A
Common sense : A
Hard work: A
Life : A-
@@AliHaider-on7cl you think to highly of me
1:32 ULTIMATE KARS ENTERS THE BATTLE!!
I don't know why this guy isn't getting more and more views. I've watch his made in heaven video and it was great and I understand it very well. This guy deserve more subscribers and views
Thanks homie
You are wrong about Dio, the whole final fight Dio was being careful. He didn’t want a repeat of what happened to him with Jonathan.
He was testing Jotaro’s abilities and he was ready to end the fight until he discovered his time stop and this is where Dio became insanely careful in the fight with Dio doubting himself.
This is what kept Jotaro alive long enough to actually land a critical hit. Dio is by no means the villan who is careless.
If Dio was as rash and boastful as you said he was, he would have run straight to Joesph and Jotaro and attempt to kill them.
No he had so many chances to kill jotaro and took his time thus leading to his downfall
He spent his time stop in which Jotaro could not move anymore by drilling his finger into his skull
His high form technically lived for about a minute or so because everything other is timestop
@@ЧылгычыОндар-ю1оhe does it once, right after he goes back to killing him (with a roadroller mind you)
@@xplorer2111 yeah by wasting another 7 secs for roadroller which ended up getting him killed cause he wasted a lot of times.
Alt diego probably got his stand like Rohan, developed it naturally sometime before part 7. Remember that Valentine had to seach for a pretty long time for that specific Diego, so he's probably from a dimension so far away that it starts to resemble part 1 universe.
I personally don’t think that’s the case since why would alt Diego develop a stand naturally but then sbr Diego or dio didn’t develop it naturally I mean it’s possible since alt universe are not exactly the same but it’s prob unlikely
@@giantlee8688 SBR Diego most likely would've gotten The World if he didn't get Scary Monsters from the corpse parts.
Rohan got shot with an arrow when he was like 19 or 16
Star platinum is the free trial of the world
Then it ends (dies)
Star Platinum: Winrar
Not really sp is better than tw cuz it didn't break at all
Also dio is a vamp which made him a longer ts
@@therealwhoever how is sp better than tw when tw outclassed sp in speed and ts duration? Like literally dio only lost due to plot and him playing around with jotaro by wasting his ts
Found a mistake in your video, you said that AU Diego could have gotten his stand with the eye, which makes no sense because the corpse parts only exist in the main universe, in the other universes there must be some other way of obtaining a stand.
Maybe he got it from the devils palm
@@mikesbizarreadventure3216 - That's not possible though because the devil's palm originate from the saints corpse.
Multiverse infinite possibilities
What about:
"Anubis is the strongest stand"
Haha rust go brrre
I belive that in the manga it's stated that the battle between dio and joyaro lasted for aroud 3-4 minutes.
Really? If so then damn
Remember, talking is free action
*joyaro* lmao
What about Cream? It's literally a void that erases everything it touches. You can't see the void either, which is why Polnareff and Iggy used The Fool's sand to track Cream. The only real weakness is that the user doesn't know where they're going and has to come out and look.
What about ZA HANDO
@@sonicman9910 Yeah. The Hand is scary as well. It's not as intimidating as Cream.
@@sonicman9910 the hand is literally cream but his abilitys limit to his right hand
Theoretically it could defeat Golden Experience Requiem or Wonder Of U as one cream goes inside his stand he technically doesn't exist in the universe and you can't revert a action back to zero if the thing that attacked you doesn't exist same thing would happen to Wonder Of U if they ever met
Stand Name: The World.
Stand User: Toph Beifong.
Toph is blind how the fuck will she be able to chase around jotaro who's been flying most of the fight
@@user-td3ke9st9m Remember N'Doul?
@@georgejoestarii9469 n’doul’s stand have somewhat infinite range, the world only has 2 effective meters and 10 meters overall
Nah it’s definitely emperor I mean what’s scarier then a gun!
a gun that can redirect its aim off of another bullet that it just shot?
Two guns
Than can move bullets after being fired and has infinite ammo
Diego could have easily obtained his stand from an infinite amount of means. D4C can access an infinite number of parallel worlds. This question literally has infinite answers
Honestly, even with Dio being a vampire he should have won... plot armor notwithstanding.
Step 1: freeze time
Step 2: eye lasers
Step 3: WRYYYYYYYYY
Step 4: Star Platinum stops it
Step 5: you just wasted a Timestop
I’ve never seen anyone bring up the fact that Scary Monsters is basically proof that turning into a dinosaur could possibly mean that dinosaurs are the SBR counterpart of the OG universes vampirism
Part 3 and 6: the ability to stop time is the strongest in za warudo
Part 4: *RAT*
It will differnt out come if jotaro part 6 when he can 5 second stopped time like he throw spear to pucci
2:17 "He got shot into a water storage tank and died"
The worlds time stop increases every time stop he trained it up to five seconds and went higher because immortal beings have the potential to increase their time stop capability
Jotaro could also increase/lose the length of time he could stop time when he used/stopped using it for period of time, but unlike dio whos body would always regenerate and never age (unless disintegrated completely by hamon or sunlight) Jotaro later began to experience strain from stopping time
So immortal or not you can increase your limit, but without vampiric vitality youre not gonna be surviving for very long if you over use it
@@joule400 @joule400 actually it is stated that humans in jojo can max ts for 5s . Sp : so and twau could max ts for 5s . Also diego was only a little tired and had cooldowns but it didn't strain his heart
@@joule400 also tbh even 5s ts is really op . But imagine if diego or jotaro were vampires they could buff their stands + have a 1m ts and freezing + laser eyes abilities
In terms of strength it goes for Star Platinum, 2nd clash caused The World's fist to break.
DIO was still weakened by hamon-user blood, but I sorta agree
Yeah and the final bout he broke the world again star platinum just has more durability and strength than the world
Considering Dio was a vampire so his stand was boosted, Star Plat is definately better than The World. He would have killed dio many times if he wasn't immortal, and even without time stop god damn it, if he had it, Dio would literally have no chance to win. And actually, the canon JoJo states that Star Platinum is the strongest stand, and this is in part 6 so stop saying GER is stronger, if Araki said it's not, that simply means that while time is frozen GER ability won't work, it's not hard to understand.
@@tiziochehaigiavisto3976 dude, the statement that star platinum is the strongest stand was said before parts 4,5, and 6 was even thought of. GER would wipe the floor with Star Platinum
@@Esotericwisdom1848 what logic do you have? We've seen GER only once and people assume he's ability is invincible.
My theory is that Main universe Diego originally had the world but never awakened it and the corpse parts affected him by removing the world and replacing it with scary monsters.
This guy needs more subs
*Kenshiro wants to know your location*
The Jotaro and DIO fight is 15 minutes in real time, meaning that when you stress and practice the ability you learn it faster and faster with no real limit. If Jotaro wasn’t a good guy (meaning he wouldn’t need to be nerfed) it’s possible he’d be able to stop time for hours on end by the time Part 4 happens.
Actually no. It is stated that 5 seconds is limit for human body in time stop. Dio was able to stop more as he was a vampire. Because of this, only Dio could have stopped time for more than 5 seconds. It is the user, not stand which determine the time. So, Jotaro can't stop time for more than 5 seconds.
I mean like, the world is weaker than star platinum right? After taking in Joseph’s blood he still lost in the second fisticuffs match, didn’t he? Sure DIO’s own strength improved, (at least I think it did), and the world’s time stop increased, but in terms of durability, I think the world is not as good as star platinum. Also, AU Diego probably was born with the world.
dio was holding back the whole time he was letting his ego take control the longer the fight went on it got worse for him. plus dio was not a fully a vampire yet he didn't have all of his powers
METAs SP>World imo. SP throughout the whole fight had DIO scared to come near him and Jotaro was very confident in his chances against DIO in a close range fight even with his stand being able to move for only moments in comparison to DIO. DIO lost this fear due to his regeneration and Time stop increasing when Jotaro punched DIO he made wholes in him yet when Punched SP Jotaro got sent flying.
METAs not only that, its actually said during one of his talks with Enya (I forget the specific chapter) that he still wasn’t used to Jonathan’s body and that his left aside felt weaker. If you remember in the last fight, DIO has The World try to kick Star Platinum with the left leg, the side that DIO was weaker on, and since stand damage transfers.... yeah.
Well, we know that stands can get weaker or stronger depending on the user's will. I've always saw the death of Dio like this : His ego was crushed, because Jotaro invaded his world and even stole his power. He went in an instant from "I've won" to badly damaged. And his whole talk about doing cowardice things to survive was, in my opinion, just him justifying himself because he was livid to be forced to act like this to defeat Jotaro. So, ego crushed, The World weakened, plus he hit with his weak left side, against a Jotaro more determined than ever. So in my opinion, The World and Star Platinum are equal, but The World got beaten because of his user losing the will to fight.
1. Dio was embarrassing Jotaro for the majority of the fight.
2. DIO was in a body actively rejecting him.
3. He absorbed the blood of a Hmaon user which while did appear to boost would also work directly against him as well.
4. DIO was being cocky and not taking the fight seriously.
5. The World and Star Platinum are constantly referred to as the same stand which means one can’t be stronger that the other without outside aspects effecting it like mastery and until the very end DIO definitely had greater mastery over the stand.
The most logical explanation to how diego got the world
He was born with it
Or
He awakened it
Stand users like Rohan or Tonio for example
@@hainguyn948 indeed
4:44 Love the music choice for Deigo's the world here
Do people not realize DIO developed The World on his own? Like naturally? People are confused about alt Diego’s The World and more specifically how he got it.
DIO/Diego’s stand across ever single universe ever is The World, main universe Diego only has scary monsters because he stole it from Dr. Ferdinand, I’m sure if he actually waited long enough he would’ve developed The World on his own but he got scary monsters first and you can’t have two stands.
I thought it was confirmed that DIO used the arrow?
@@prez.cookie980 no, it was only Congo that he and Enya, used the arrow on some of the other followers, not all of them of course but some of them.
if you stop time for 10 seconds but your body keeps aging because it still wearing down it would mean you eventually could die earlier of old age right?
do metallica would've killed diavolo if aerosmith didnt "protect" him
It would've killed doppio, not diavolo.
King Yung Ace same thing
Diavolo was hesitant to transform into his true himself lol
@@Ztbyon diavolo and doppio are essentially the same when they share the same body
@@sosukemickey1041 Doppio can’t use Time erase making him infinitely weaker
Za Warudo may be the bender of time but Kakyoin will always be the bender of moms
Remember watching Stardust Crusaders as a kid. The World legit scared me as a kid because Dio almost killed everyone and the only reason Jotaro won because he said The World is the same type of Stands as Star Platinum.
7:00 I remember funny saying that there are no corps parts in other universes
So what I like to think is that in the other Diego's universe stand arrows exist or a other version of the arrows
actually the lowest pont we saw was 2 or 3 seconds from when it shows him first stopping time as his minion shot a gun at him
Ok so from kakyoins death to jotaro playing dead was around 100 seconds
The World is definitely spammable we literally see him basically teleporting. After he killed that women in the shop.
Dio went to egypt and his stand has a oxygen tank he Fr got water ptsd
If dio wasn't a vamp his time stop wouldn't be so long cause it took him lifespans to train his ts
Still would probably be like jotaros which is still formidable
Dio didn’t have lifespans to train time stop. He only had The World for ~2 months. Him awakening the stand was what caused Holly to fall ill in the first place, which started the Crusaders on their journey.
The holy Corpse only exists in the main universe, I think Diego didn't get his stand until after he was brought through to our universe by Funny Valentine, his proficiency with The World might be explained by his intelligence and ability to adapt.
Did you say “the world”? I’m honestly offended
It’s ZA WARUDO
you mean the globe
That joke isn't funny anymore dood
@@oftedical you mean the disk
If Star Platinum just happened to have the same ability as The World, I can’t help but wonder how many “duplicate stands” exist.
its cuz ''star platinum is the same type of stand'' :D
Diego would have gotten his stand through some other matter rather than through the corpse part, because funny valentine said that the corpse part is unique to their universe
The fact that Dio can stop time for more than 5 seconds isn't thanks to his stand but thanks to the fact that he's a vampire, The more he absorbed blood from the Joestars the more he became a vampire and gained his superhuman stamina, Same for the fact that he can spam time stop
7:00 there were no corpse part in alternate universes only in the base world.
I feel like it's been stated that the steel ball run universe is there only one with the corpse parts in it
You know something....dio could have stopped time then just snapped the necks of his enemies like he didn't need to be SL flashy
at 7:10 your theory has one fatal flaw the corpse only exist in the sbr universe most likely he was born with or found the eye of a certain corpse
I think we sorta forgot about the heavens plan being, Dio's The World just sh^tting on everything that ever literally "happened." But that's just a cherry on the top of why ZA WARUDO is spoopy.
The most terrifying stands: king crimson. Man can puncha hole in a person and can SKIP TIME
Literally what The World did except he stopped time.
What's there to fear you'll just skip to the part your dead and it wouldn't hurt. Vs the world you'll see death comming at ya or find a hole in you and feel looming death
The metal guy didn’t fight divalo😂 heavy reach
Over 100 years old vampire with a terrifying stand that could stop time trolls his enemies by stopping time, picking his enemy up and putting him down the stair again and again when his enemy tries to go up and getting killed by them in the end.
Vampiric abilities dont make stands in any way Stronger and thats obvious because vampirism effects are only to body not to soul or mind. Hamon and spin are exceptions because they are energy and stands are too so they can interact just like hermit purple do
4:05 you mean mentsl stanmina
I see why part 6 is so beloved. Pucci is an amazing villian. That isnt constraint by the good guy always winning trope.
Dio: my stand the world is the strongest stand
Jotaro: I’m 5A
Dio: NANII!
"So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum"
Actually the fight between Jotaro and Dio was a few minutes I do believe. I think he said it after the fight in the ambulance.
valentine said Diego got the world because he worked with him so the corpse would favour him awakening the ability
I’m surprised this is the only video I can find that actually talks about this stand in length lol (why won’t more ppl talk about my favorite stand 😭)
I always thought the time stop had a cool down. They probably didn't say that but i always thought after a timestop that just couldn't use it for a certain amount of time
The World is my favorite Stand, It's decently OP and Serves all most everything you would want from a stand, power, speed, precision, good defense, and good offence. Honestly The best stand yet
You're talking about it like it's a tactic in a videogame. I love it
when dio was making polnareff climb the same step over and over again he was spamming the world so yes the time stop is spammable
On how Diego got The World in his universe theirs most likely just a different way to gain stands in his universe.
Alternate Diego couldn't have gotten his stand from the turbo eye cause the corpse part is only in one universe, the main one where Dino Diego was in.
You should do a most terrifying stands video about metallica.
Star platinum: I’m boutta end this whole mans career
I still think made in heaven is stronger
Well no shit pal
An over heaven stand vs a base stand no to mention mih can speed up the timestop
Its not like an over heaven stand "pal" its evolution of gravity, yes hes stronger, but you making him like as strong as oh, when he isnt even that close to twoh.
Well pucci cucker did the heaven plan and well when dio did it we get the world over heaven so we could just call pucci's stand whitesnake over heaven but we don't cuz it has been given another name
If we are being technical then its just wsoh
Diego couldnt have gotten the world through a corpse part cuz it only exists in the main universe
Imagine Kars (not ultimate) with The World, basically DIO but without his weaknesses, and a lot stronger.
I think that dip being a vampire is what makes the world as strong as it is. Being a vampire makes you stronger in every way.
The misspelling is a little distracting lol. Great video though love the series
Don’t forget that in all the alt universes the holy corpse didn’t exist... or from what I remember it didn’t.
6:58 bro he couldn't have stolen the eye cause the corpse is only in one universe
Diego is more like a Virus infecting Raptor and,how He gets the world which is his own tho you know hes mortal so his time stop might be 5-9 seconds
So is no one gonna talk about the word stanima that showed up 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ultimate Cantante14 probably “stando” and stamina mixed together xd
Arcane Bandit lets go with that 😂
My favorite stand/user is Killer Queen/Kira and I'll tell ya how he'd "win" by losing.
No bombs. Killer Queen bites the dustoo at some moment within The World's time freeze. If Kira is aware of this he can set his timer to that. In essence trapping Dio in a timeless state. Dio would eventually figure this out and realize the only way to win: is not to play.
I don’t think it was DIO being cocky. He just didn’t want history to repeat itself like with Jonathan. He was overly careful and trying to think around how to go about killing him. The only reason he had lost is because of jotaro’ own intellectual capabilities. He had tricked dio on various occasions and found ways to counter.
Additionally, araki actually made dio too strong. He just gave star platinum time stop for the sake of him to win. That’s all.
honestly people don't really give d4c enough credit, it leaves valentine's body after he dies (as shown by wandering d4c after valentine got infinite rotationed) and finds another valentine, so the only real way to beat him is wait for him to die of old age (no grateful dead doesn't count, all of the separate universes seem to have the same character age). The only way this strategy doesn't work is if there are universes with vampire valentine or younger valentines, in which case the old age strat falls apart entirely, and he's just unkillable. edit: I forgot that you could break the stand, yeah that would probably work, ironic that I forgot about that when that's literally what happened to the focus stand of this video lmao
I still wanna say that star platinums ability is to learn one other stand users power at a bit of a nerfed rate and he just never knew it until his life was in danger, just a little theory ofc it is probably wrong.
Steel Ball Run, as stated by Funny Valentine, the corpse parts are exclusive to the SBR universe. Alternative universes have less valuable treasures to supplement the corpse parts. Funny Valentine went to a different universe that had a Dio and informed him of Johnny's stand.
“Dio is a bad fighter” lol 😂 sure
Thats gonna age well
The World is a powerful stand
Diego can sustain that
Meaning, it's a natural stand
I mean, this dude did spam the world to put a dude back in the car over and over.
Dude diago with the word is from another dimension brought to the main story by D4C
Fun fact. Araki didnt have his editor for the 'dios world' arc; so everything from the arc was 100% drawn by araki
You mean assistants?
Remember in part 7 how Diego was able to stop time with his horse. hamon beat said he was only able to move his horse with his stand by picking it up and moving it, but doesn't that seem kind of stupid? I personally believe that in time stop Diego's horse was able to move like how he was able to through the knifes in time stop until his timer ended. So why wouldn't it be the same with Diego's horse, course we saw when Diego stopped time his horse to be frozen. But maybe Araki had different plans in mind? idk I found it strange for Diego to straddle his horse over the same distance his horse would run at
Because only Diego is conscious during time stop? I dunno what to tell you.
If you find The World picking up the horse stupid, fine. But that's the most logical explanation
@@xplorer2111 i wrote this months ago and idk what I was on. Him carrying his horse is the most logical lol
Actually peak tw was at the end of the fight and it stopped time for 11 seconds before jotaros timestop took place
Diego’s is scarier since Diego is the user
Nice vid! Tho looks like you forgot the corpse exists only in one universe, the alternate Diego got The World through some other means possibly the diamonds the racers are looking for in parallel Steel Ball Runs that are there instead of corpse parts
1:54 isn't the reason he did it slow was because the Joestars are clever and he was scared he'd just die