"She's got no importance at all, so Master Chief is risking his career, his role in the war for this girl he doesn't know who doesn't matter!" Sounds like every female fantasy involving Master Chief ever.
Feels pretty validating to be honest. Because it shows that the reason the West had great culture was because of Christian influence, and the more that has receded, the worse our art has become. Can't have good stories without basing them in truth, and can't have truth without, well, The Truth.
@@porolinio the more Christian they are, the better it is. That's why I referred to Christian influence. We have more Christians in the country now than ever before but the cultural influence has dramatically waned for reasons that aren't necessary to go into here. It's irrefutable that the less a story reflects Christian morality and truth, the lower quality the art will be. That's why the Lord of the Rings made more money than the Odyssey. That's why the only written fiction work of note by Muslims is 1001 Nights. Etc
A straight adaptation of the book Fall of Reach would have been such a perfect introduction to the universe and characters, but we can’t have nice things anymore.
@Arthur Brown It’s not that a faithful adaptation is hard, it’s 100% smug arrogance. They think they’re smarter/better than the original creators and are determined to make sure any “problematic” content is purged. The original lore is used as camouflage to get THE MESSAGE front and center. It’s insidious and gross.
No, a straight adaptation of Contact Harvest would've been better! Johnson as the main character, seeing the spark of the Covenant War... It'd be so amazing to see! As much as I love Master Chief, I would've wanted to opening to Halo to be Contact Harvest, the ACTUAL start of the Human-Covenant War.
@@MercuryAlphaInc That would also prevent continuity problems from the sensitive plot. FoR and First Strike are very intricately interconnected, so much so that Halo Reach caused problems and was the first example of a soft reboot in the franchise
The thing with Master Chief never taking off his helmet is that even with that blank slate, even with that robotic looking, non emotive head, you could feel Chief was human. The way he spoke, the subtle way he sometimes moved when he wasn't in combat. You could feel that beneath all that armor, indoctrination and military training, there was still a human, even if Chief sometimes wondered if he was. That was and still is the beauty of Master Chief. EDIT: And most of this is because of how he interacts with the cast around him, mainly Cortana and Johnson (which I'm amazed they didn't put him in! He'd have been perfect!), and later The Arbiter.
Which is amazing for a players experience I'm definitely not arguing against that but in show adaptation it wasn't that jarring or offensive to me to him take his helmet off since he seems to be affected quite a bit by the artifact.
You lose that motif when you take off the helmet. There also is never a reason to take it off except to eat, outside of debriefing and R&R after the mission is over
Not only was he human. He was one of the best of us. A true hero. Something the species could look up to. You can say "this is a hero worth striving to be like". In universe he was never designed to be "the hero". He was a weapon. His leadership, courage, self sacrifice, drive to protect humanity were not part of his training. The "character" of master chief is so much more than bad ass super soldier. It's a true Hero.
Bless his heart! Poor Oz just looks so depressed and heartbroken at the beginning of the video, like he's just a broken man. Don't let them beat you down Oz! Love your content guys ❤️
And it isn't like he wasn't anticipating the disappointment, I thought he'd be the one all ready and hype to tear into the show but man, how bad does it have to be to bring him down to these levels of depressed?
Reach was already a soft retcon that Bungie didn't want to make. 1-3 was a complete mythological story. It also had totally different implications that the forerunners were human predecessors, not just random Aliens.
What I learned from this show: Master Chief is apparently Adam Sandler. Also this world apparently has RPG mechanics where a minigun will either have zero effect or be brutally deadly purely dependant on which character pulls the trigger.
That's something I noticed immediately when he looked over at the minigun. Was thinking "well maybe it's not gonna work and he will beat the thing to death" nope just tears through the shield and body like it was soft butter. While earlier it wasn't even pushing them back.
Reach was already a soft retcon that Bungie didn't want to make. 1-3 was a complete mythological story. It also had totally different implications that the forerunners were human predecessors, not just random Aliens.
30:30 That is the single most offensive thing thus far. Master Chief - and Spartans in general - always know what they are doing. That's why they are doing what they are doing. They are always after an objective, a mission, a target, something. They often don't know what step 2 of the plan is, but once they know step 1, they are laser guided killing machines. Red Vs Blue by Roosterteeth treated the spartan suit with more dignity.
And need I remind you that Red vs. Blue was a Machinima parody wherein one of the episodes saw a character rip a guys skull out and beat him to death with it! "Wait? How do you beat someone up with their own skull? That doesn't seem physically possible!" _"That's exactly what Jimmy kept screaming."_ "THIS DOESN'T SEEM PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE!"
Reach was already a soft retcon that Bungie didn't want to make. 1-3 was a complete mythological story. It also had totally different implications that the forerunners were human predecessors, not just random Aliens.
I think that a big factor for what makes new show a feel staged is that characters aren’t allowed to interact organically. For example in the WoT when Moiraine tells the group that one of them is “The Dragon Reborn”, nobody flinches, nobody denies, nobody resists the idea. This a consistent through many shows, nobody resists or challenges the idea because their too busy moving the plot along
I’m starting to think we are looking in the wrong place for drama, because these big productions seem to loose something along the way. Just FYI, I got a thought down here that might be a bit sensitive in nature, but has me reflective. I remember seeing a program of a woman who had lost her best friend after a hard night out. Can’t even remember it’s name because it was a work night and couldn’t stick around. No lie, those 20 minutes I saw was the most gripping drama I have experienced in a while, from the “is she missing or dead”, to the main character wondering whether she had been roofied herself, and each introduced character (the too helpful taxi driver, the sexist arsehole cop, the forceful but concerned boyfriend, even the missing character introduces more conflict and confusion) introduces more elements that makes us question her, and our own judgments while slowly building tension over their safety. That low-key drama with likely a fraction of the budget managed to be a more gripping drama then much I’ve seen from the “huge IP” properties, and they are about crime lords defending a town, a super soldier fighting alien and so fourth. And I do believe that lack of organic conflict, denial, actions that don’t contribute to the plot itself but makes the characters more real is what’s missing.
Not only that, but it visually looks like a stage rather than a real place. Characters look out of place, their costumes look fake and the sets look fake. Production designers seem increasingly incapable of making shows/movies look like grounded places that the viewers can immerse themselves in. Just compare early GoT seasons to the later GoT seasons. It isn't just rushed story writing trying to push the plot along, the production quality got worse, costumes, the sets, props, details etc. Looking at the Series Production Designers, you had Gemma Jackson doing the first 3 seasons and Deborah Riley doing season 4 to 8. Not saying that Deborah Riley was doing a bad job, but I think that everyone working on the show stopped caring after the writers/producers started to shove the plot at teleportation speed. In season 8 almost everyone is wearing black.
There is on big message you may have missed and I think it is one of the main problems this show is gonna have... They want to portray the UNSC as bad colonizers and they also portrayed the military in general in a bad way because of "the message", but a big part of Halo IS the military heroism of the UNSC who were fighting for all humanity. It felt sooo incredibly stupid to me to see marines with warthogs and pelicans running to attack the chief, like wtf?? They definitly did not play the games at all...
However, to be fair the UNSC weren’t exactly the nicest group of people either. One only needs to look at how they recruit the soldiers/children for the Spartan II project. And those children were recruited before the Covenant even made their appearance
@@aimanmarzuqi4804 Double to be fair, the Spartan program wasn't a full on UNSC endeavor, was it? I thought it was more in the realm of ONI or even some secret project that Halsey was at the head of (as we see her being questioned at the beginning of Halo 4 by an ONI spook for her war crimes of making child super soldiers). Either way, beyond the Spartan program, in defense of the show's idea of the UNSC, there were multiple works that had insurgents rise up. The Spartan program was brought to life because humanity was fighting the Insurgent factions, but as Halsey says in that Halo 4 intro scene, the Covenant attacked and no one had an issue with the moral ramifications of the Spartans when they started kicking the Covenant's asses off of their worlds almost single handedly.
@@PANCAKEMINEZZ the Spartan 2 program was completey behind the scenes with ONI backing Halsey for it as a spec op/suppression force against inssurectionists. The rest of the UNSC had no idea on how and why the Spartan program started
I watched Disparu’s video on the article about the writer’s inspiration, and they literally said they felt that they didn’t want to be limited by the games, and so they ignored them and went to the books (as if those are a separate canon), but then couldn’t wrap their heads around the lore there, and so just went “screw it, we’re doing our own thing”.
The line from about the writers NEEDING to tell THEIR stories, that Disparu highlighted, was all the confirmation anyone should need to know this was never going to be Halo. If a writer needs to tell their stories, then they should start their own universe and write their stories there. Halo fans want to see Halo stories, not the stories of the cheapest writers Paramount could hire.
Yep. If they simply watched "Halo: Fall of Reach" the movie, and just the "Entire Halo Story in 3 Minutes" by ArcadeCloud... That is all they strictly needed to know, with hiring a lore buff to fit stuff in, but no they threw everything out and with there being no Origin story for John117 they are pulling the shitty 'I'm not at fault because I'm an abducted slave.' story line. Where if the Fall of Reach was part of the AU lore, John and all the other Spartans know about it and have resolved that issue. The story line is a spit in the fact for anyone who knows the Fall of Reach movie.
Chief takes of his helmet only when his job is done. To do otherwise would possibly jeopardize mission accomplishment. Chief is all about completing the mission. It’s in the tagline: “Finish the Fight”
@@Sone01TheFirst With how often actors in these rolls get overlooked and not get the recognition that they deserve, I can understand wanting them to get face time. Just actually work it into the story so that it fucking works instead of a cheap, lazy input.
All my life i wanted a Halo tv series. Now i want to die. I played Halo since it first came out on OG Xbox. I refuse to watch the show. Thank you Shad, Oz, and Nathan for suffer in my place and telling me how horribly pissed i would have been if i decided to hurt my soul and watch it.
I'd download it if you can just to check it out. It's worth it for now. Theres a lot the show can do to ruin the rest of the show but for now it's a good adaptation in my opinion. I've played the games too just fyi, first halo on xbox then played til 3 but never played 4 or up
Reach was already a soft retcon that Bungie didn't want to make. 1-3 was a complete mythological story. It also had totally different implications that the forerunners were human predecessors, not just random Aliens.
Share videos discussing why despite the attempt at irony people identify with the anti-communist robot. Because it's so badass and awesome more than it is "ironically mocking". Just like the nice guy comic, about the nice guy getting trashed by some feminist. The intent of the comic was to make fun of the nice guy but everybody ended up liking him instead.
I'm not as big a Halo fan as I was a WoT fan, but I have played most of the games starting from day 1. Sad to think we may NEVER AGAIN get any series based on something good that isn't tainted by these overconfident, hamfisted, uninspired, bland ideologues and their bad writing and boring self-inserts.
Let me give you a little light of hope my friend it’s called Sonic and the sequel is looking to be just as good. They may be few and far between but some companies still want to make money
@@LordB-dg8ks only downside for me is that I never had a Sega growing up and only played Sonic games for maybe 10-20 combined hours in my whole life (never watched the cartoon either).
After STD: Sexually Transmitted Disease, and Star Trek Peehard, this was always the inevitable conclusion. I've basically given up on everything made in the west. Luckily, there's still plenty of good stuff coming out of countries like Japan, Korea, and India.
@Adeptus Astartes That's pretty much my attitude to video games nowadays. We went from getting like 10 good games per year in the 90's and 00's, to maybe 2 or 3 a year in the 2010's and now even fewer in the 2020's. In other words, the majority of the good video games we're going to see in our lifetime actually already exist. I don't think TV and movies are _quite_ that bad yet, but things are heading that way. The pandemic certainly took its toll, but maybe things will bounce back.
The Witcher: I somehow survived Star Wars: HOW AM I STILL ALIVE? Star Trek: NO WE AREN'T! Marvel: Sometimes I feel like dieing DC: I escaped Death. Somehow I can see it creeping in the darkness. But I wasn't hurt. LOTR: This was a heavy hit! Halo: It is my turn now?
Poor Oz...you can feel the pain of a real fan seeing what he loves being tortured and burned alive right in front of him...stay strong man and just forget this exists! First Shad with WoT and now Oz with this...i fear for Nathan's safety 😅
This is Cortana she's got my back, she can decode alien transmissions like mowing down a pack of Grunts. I would advise no to get hacked by her, her computing systems can take over Covenant warships.
"Watching it, so you don't have to..." If it's as bad as that, please, spare yourselves the misery: Oz looks ready to off himself... There's no need to subject yourselves to garbage... 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I don’t understand how people who hate SciFi and Fantasy, or in the best case just misunderstand it, keep getting jobs to adapt them into live action. How does this keep happening again and again and again? Why do execs give money to people so they can lose more in the long term? I’m not even asking out of anger anymore, just curiosity because… why?
political agenda. organic cultural unfiers are to be tarnished and replaced with a combined state- corporate narrative to secure control. even if it means reigning over ruins. these people have no concept of true, conciousness based, value. only of relative dominance with no longevity, and therefore stunted value.
It's a mixture of nepotism and the kind of industry-wide political gatekeeping Fractal mind is talking about. The showrunners only hire friends, and friends of friends, to work as writers and producers. And the main defining factor of who they will consider a friend is whether or not their political views align. That's why so many shows now are so on-the-nose with their contemporary political commentary. It's not just a simple case of writers trying to push "the message" through propaganda, it's signalling. It's them saying "Hey guys, look, I'm one of you. I'm safe to hire for other projects." The end result is a selection process that favours certain political views, or at least an ability to convincingly feign them, above talent.
They won't lose money in the long-term, that's the issue. They make less money, but less than absolutely breaking the bank is still a lot of money, so they don't even realize they're being mediocre, they're so filled with hubris. It's the same reason the Gaming industry thinks they're doing so well, meanwhile we have a constant stream of like 3-dev indie games destroying the market because AAA titles are so bad.
same even iffff you could justify the action of "look i'm human" it doesn't justify having the helmet off for the REST OF THE EPISODE and probably a good chunk of the next one
Reach was already a soft retcon that Bungie didn't want to make. 1-3 was a complete mythological story. It also had totally different implications that the forerunners were human predecessors, not just random Aliens.
Halo TV series was literally a bait and Switch in season 1. The first half of this episode was actually pretty good. Then it went off the rails after that first action sequence. Lol
I would really appreciate a brief synopsis of the plot when y’all do reviews like these. Other than that, excellent work as usual. I’m really glad that Nathan has begun speaking up more
The plot is waman strong for no reason and they rescue chief. All jokes aside, they show his face in first episode when he’s never shown it in a single game.
@@yuukimasamura5143 well you do see his head and eyebrows and eyes in the legendary end of halo 4. I remember running into a man who was offended that he wasn't black. While sad in one sense, that's also a great sign that they had done a good job of letting players see themselves in the character
@@R.E.-Gato haven't seen the show so idk, but it's possible for a production to not have a plot. That would essentially be saying that there were no character or story arcs. That can in turn be summarized as saying that the characters or environment didn't change. Are the bad guys on the way at the beginning and the end? Are the characters scared at the beginning and the end? Stuff like that.
Stallone taking off his helmet immediately in Judge Dredd and Master Chief taking off his helmet was more a sign that the actors, or writers had no respect for the source material and the HALO writers did admit to never have played or read anything about the game
Gotta love when asian man used the mini gun on the elites and did nothing and few scenes later Chief uses that EXACT SAME MINI GUN and kills the elites. What. The. Fuck.
y'know what they coulda used for magic mcguffin that would've worked? AN ENGINEER! there are actual biological creatures in halo engineered to perfectly understand all engines and shit made to repair forerunner ships. (and any other) just have them find one of them and it fixes the ship, problem solved.
tiny spoiler (not point in caring but just in case): the brat that I'm guessing is going to 'humanize' MC was threatening with lying to the colonies about the existence of the aliens that just massacred her colony and who she thought were just propaganda. Because that's what daddy wanted. Don't mind that daddy's wish was based on wrong info and sticking with it it's gonna get the other colonies killed. Cos who cares about facts when you have emotions. That's empowerment for y'all. She is the one that's gonna be giving MC the moral lessons. Roflmao it's always the same and it's so painfully stupid
-i will not spread propaganda UNSC attacked my people -ALIENS attacked your people we have video -video can be doctored you LIE -YOU WERE THERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Ashtor1337 It's not by accident. Hollywood doesn't understand morality. Kant and Descartes began the downward spiral by promoting subjectivism. We used to believe there were absolute metaphysical truths, absolute beauty, absolute goodness, and absolute truth. Kant denied the metaphysics and beauty, and thought he could still have goodness and truth. But that's not true, because they're connected. Once beauty went, eventually we lost absolute goodness (ethics, morality). And within the last 10-15 years we've lost absolute truth itself. And when someone truly doesn't believe that there's a difference between right and wrong, true or false, ugly and beautiful, creator and creation, then these people cannot distinguish between a good story and a bad story. That's why we keep getting garbage. The writers literally couldn't spot a good story if it was presented to them. They can't tell the difference between shit and gold. That's why art is becoming so atrocious now. It is because of people's religious political beliefs.
@@horrificpleasantry9474 i kant it bothers me how much of an incomplete thought it is, tho academic philosophy is great ..... but people bring it out in the real world as for writers they grew up looking at either their own reflexion or quite frankly garbage drama/sitcom and because they don't have talent it ends up as ..... TELENOVELLA with an FX budget
There are people who claim they've played all the games and read everything halo that are screaming their love for this show hahahaha I'm like, how much were you payed.
What you guys should do is save it for until Wheel of Time Season 2 is out, and do alternate reviews of Halo and WOT one after the other. That way Oz and Shad can have “breaks” from being tortured.
Oz, buddy, couple of corrections: 1. The Insurrection didn't cease. Source: *The Cole Protocol* 2. Reach and Earth weren't the only planets left. 3. MAC's were a thing even before the Human-Covenant war.
On point 1, the number of cells drops MASSIVELY once it becomes known the covenant don't discriminate in their genocide. Source, fall of reach/first strike.
@@huemungy3212 and by your own admission they still existed. Just because most of the people supporting the same insurrection then realized they needed the unsc doesn't equal the insurrection becoming extinct. There were still small pockets here and there that were not threatened by the covenant and thought it was propaganda. They were no longer public enemy #1 or a viable threat because the UNSC had to protect the species. Much like the Taliban are no longer an issue when you have Russia and it's nukes taking territory. Much like Ukraine not willing to sign off on or meet NATO requirement for decades but as soon as a world power send in tanks their leaders will sign agreements with anyone. Small threats and selfish power hungry assholes tend to disappear when major threats show up.
@@Ashtor1337 Lmao of fucking course you bring in real world politics. Aside from that though, my point is literally just to add more context to OP's statement. Take your need for an argument somewhere else.
Sgt Avery Junior Johnson. The man who kicked so much ass he not only survived the Covenant invasion of earth when he was almost 80 years old and still in active duty, but also growing up in Chicago. Rest in peace Sarge!
if i remember correctly in the novels the first mission the master chief did involve blowing a huge hole on hold in an insurrectionist space settlement. years later during the covenant war master chief somehow ended up in the same station which ended up with the master chef blowing yet another hole as a form of distraction again. lol putting a hole in an insurrectionist space habitat pretty much made sure any future interactions would be a hostile one. not to mention the insurrectionist are also selling the coordinates of human controlled world for weapons so that they can conduct terrorism on UNSC populated worlds and they almost sold the coordinates of Earth.
So what I'm hearing from this is that I shouldn't waste my time with the Halo TV series and should instead just enjoy red versus blue. Who else is with me?
Save yourselves money please even watch the cutscenes online in movie form, they're so well done. Well done to these gents I was so close to having to spend money to see this mess, thank you for saving me time/money!
After 265 revisions, nothing is gonna be good. It's not that they improved it after 265 revisions, it's that anything interesting was filed off into "safe" predictable tasteless nothing.
Oz looks as ill as Shad did after WOT season 1.... This isn't going to end well. God, they could've done the plot of Cole Protocol, Contact Harvest or even CE (as novelised in The Flood) and everyone would've loved it. This is just a disaster..... this is already over despite a following season and more episodes.
Actually, the creators don't have contempt for the source. _They never bothered to research or look at it in the first place and proceeded to brag about it on MSM._
I spent 6 months in basic training. Propper customs and courtesies became a habit for me. Cheif was raised in the military. The concept of saying no to an order wouldn't even exist.
Also, Oz, there were a handful of "Inner Colonies", even during the events of Fall of Reach and the Battle for Earth. It was many of the Outer Colonies that were glassed/invaded, and a few Inner Colonies.
Reach was already a soft retcon that Bungie didn't want to make. 1-3 was a complete mythological story. It also had totally different implications that the forerunners were human predecessors, not just random Aliens.
"it's accurate to how it is described in all other media except the games" I think you pretty much just summed up the problem with Halo as a series post Reach. Halo is a video game series first and foremost. Anything made outside of that should strive to remain faithful to the games, not aim to be the next big dark fantasy/sci-fi series or novel but with a Halo twist. This is the reason the writing in the games went to absolute shit after 343 took charge. Rather than just focusing on the games, they're too busy trying to make everything fit with lore introduced by additional media. Problem is that lore was an inconsistent mess both logically and tonally even before Bungie stopped working on the games, which is why Bungie never paid attention to any of it.
Diversity Hire Kid: My Dad got split in half by an alien, BUT I'm going to tell everybody you (Earth/UNC/whatever) killed everybody! That's what he would have wanted! Are you serious? LOL ARE YOU SERIOUS!? A. I'm sure Daddy would be like, while this trade dispute is not good, AVENGE ME, kill those Aliens! B. The Earth Government you know to be pure evil, you just basically said kill me. GTFO Lol. Are you serious!?
This review was the best part of the episode. Oz. Thank you for your sacrifice. Your conflict, and the tension that it brings, will be the best source of entertainment that comes out of this show.
I love how Shad is his own hype-man. He always starts his rants at a normal volume but goads himself into a frenzy by the end
Nerd RAGE!!!
By the end he's ready to bust through walls.
"She's got no importance at all, so Master Chief is risking his career, his role in the war for this girl he doesn't know who doesn't matter!"
Sounds like every female fantasy involving Master Chief ever.
So we have a hint as to who the story writers are?
“How does it feel to have lived long enough to see all of your favourite franchises go down in flames?”
“Feels Great.”
Feels pretty validating to be honest. Because it shows that the reason the West had great culture was because of Christian influence, and the more that has receded, the worse our art has become. Can't have good stories without basing them in truth, and can't have truth without, well, The Truth.
@@horrificpleasantry9474 🙏 Amen
@@horrificpleasantry9474 correlation =/= causation
you speak like no culture other that christian developed their own art mythos and stories
@@porolinio the more Christian they are, the better it is. That's why I referred to Christian influence. We have more Christians in the country now than ever before but the cultural influence has dramatically waned for reasons that aren't necessary to go into here. It's irrefutable that the less a story reflects Christian morality and truth, the lower quality the art will be. That's why the Lord of the Rings made more money than the Odyssey. That's why the only written fiction work of note by Muslims is 1001 Nights. Etc
A straight adaptation of the book Fall of Reach would have been such a perfect introduction to the universe and characters, but we can’t have nice things anymore.
@Arthur Brown It’s not that a faithful adaptation is hard, it’s 100% smug arrogance. They think they’re smarter/better than the original creators and are determined to make sure any “problematic” content is purged. The original lore is used as camouflage to get THE MESSAGE front and center. It’s insidious and gross.
No, a straight adaptation of Contact Harvest would've been better! Johnson as the main character, seeing the spark of the Covenant War... It'd be so amazing to see!
As much as I love Master Chief, I would've wanted to opening to Halo to be Contact Harvest, the ACTUAL start of the Human-Covenant War.
Everything woke turns to shit
@@MercuryAlphaInc you're spot on.
@@MercuryAlphaInc That would also prevent continuity problems from the sensitive plot. FoR and First Strike are very intricately interconnected, so much so that Halo Reach caused problems and was the first example of a soft reboot in the franchise
The thing with Master Chief never taking off his helmet is that even with that blank slate, even with that robotic looking, non emotive head, you could feel Chief was human. The way he spoke, the subtle way he sometimes moved when he wasn't in combat. You could feel that beneath all that armor, indoctrination and military training, there was still a human, even if Chief sometimes wondered if he was. That was and still is the beauty of Master Chief.
EDIT: And most of this is because of how he interacts with the cast around him, mainly Cortana and Johnson (which I'm amazed they didn't put him in! He'd have been perfect!), and later The Arbiter.
Which is amazing for a players experience I'm definitely not arguing against that but in show adaptation it wasn't that jarring or offensive to me to him take his helmet off since he seems to be affected quite a bit by the artifact.
You lose that motif when you take off the helmet. There also is never a reason to take it off except to eat, outside of debriefing and R&R after the mission is over
Not only was he human. He was one of the best of us. A true hero. Something the species could look up to. You can say "this is a hero worth striving to be like". In universe he was never designed to be "the hero". He was a weapon. His leadership, courage, self sacrifice, drive to protect humanity were not part of his training. The "character" of master chief is so much more than bad ass super soldier. It's a true Hero.
I fully disagree with this for halo 1,2 and 3. He hardly felt like a human with any emotions which is good because that's what they were going for.
@@MissionControl- really? You didn't connect with him at all?
Bless his heart! Poor Oz just looks so depressed and heartbroken at the beginning of the video, like he's just a broken man. Don't let them beat you down Oz! Love your content guys ❤️
And it isn't like he wasn't anticipating the disappointment, I thought he'd be the one all ready and hype to tear into the show but man, how bad does it have to be to bring him down to these levels of depressed?
@@kingofsapi I know! I was expecting him to come out fighting too! That's what made his reaction all the more sad.
Its a video game adaptation, it was going to be crap regardless
The thumbnail is hilariously tragic
Reach was already a soft retcon that Bungie didn't want to make. 1-3 was a complete mythological story. It also had totally different implications that the forerunners were human predecessors, not just random Aliens.
What I learned from this show: Master Chief is apparently Adam Sandler.
Also this world apparently has RPG mechanics where a minigun will either have zero effect or be brutally deadly purely dependant on which character pulls the trigger.
THAT !! my god that is infuriating BULLSHIT, covenant is immune to bullets unless fired by a spartan ..... sooo many levels of stupid
That's something I noticed immediately when he looked over at the minigun. Was thinking "well maybe it's not gonna work and he will beat the thing to death" nope just tears through the shield and body like it was soft butter. While earlier it wasn't even pushing them back.
Adam Sandler as Master Chief would be at least funny
“We can’t let them do that to Adam Sandler! His career can’t take another hit!” -Storm the albatross
@@Emppu_T. 20 years ago maybe
I think Oz looks like Shad did after Watching The Last Jedi. He looks like somebody walked into his flat and shot his dog right in front of him.
Fed's will do that to ya
@@teamozOFFICIAL I wish you the best of luck, and may your sanity be restored.
@@lightningpenguin8937 I mean... There are plenty of cases of federal agents shooting dogs. It's something that does happen.
Reach was already a soft retcon that Bungie didn't want to make. 1-3 was a complete mythological story. It also had totally different implications that the forerunners were human predecessors, not just random Aliens.
30:30 That is the single most offensive thing thus far. Master Chief - and Spartans in general - always know what they are doing. That's why they are doing what they are doing. They are always after an objective, a mission, a target, something. They often don't know what step 2 of the plan is, but once they know step 1, they are laser guided killing machines.
Red Vs Blue by Roosterteeth treated the spartan suit with more dignity.
The Freelancer saga is still good, even today.
And need I remind you that Red vs. Blue was a Machinima parody wherein one of the episodes saw a character rip a guys skull out and beat him to death with it!
"Wait? How do you beat someone up with their own skull? That doesn't seem physically possible!"
_"That's exactly what Jimmy kept screaming."_
"THIS DOESN'T SEEM PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE!"
Reach was already a soft retcon that Bungie didn't want to make. 1-3 was a complete mythological story. It also had totally different implications that the forerunners were human predecessors, not just random Aliens.
I think that a big factor for what makes new show a feel staged is that characters aren’t allowed to interact organically. For example in the WoT when Moiraine tells the group that one of them is “The Dragon Reborn”, nobody flinches, nobody denies, nobody resists the idea. This a consistent through many shows, nobody resists or challenges the idea because their too busy moving the plot along
good point, hadn't noticed that
Yep. Either the plot moves the characters or the characters move the plot. The latter is the hallmark of good storytelling.
I’m starting to think we are looking in the wrong place for drama, because these big productions seem to loose something along the way.
Just FYI, I got a thought down here that might be a bit sensitive in nature, but has me reflective.
I remember seeing a program of a woman who had lost her best friend after a hard night out. Can’t even remember it’s name because it was a work night and couldn’t stick around. No lie, those 20 minutes I saw was the most gripping drama I have experienced in a while, from the “is she missing or dead”, to the main character wondering whether she had been roofied herself, and each introduced character (the too helpful taxi driver, the sexist arsehole cop, the forceful but concerned boyfriend, even the missing character introduces more conflict and confusion) introduces more elements that makes us question her, and our own judgments while slowly building tension over their safety.
That low-key drama with likely a fraction of the budget managed to be a more gripping drama then much I’ve seen from the “huge IP” properties, and they are about crime lords defending a town, a super soldier fighting alien and so fourth. And I do believe that lack of organic conflict, denial, actions that don’t contribute to the plot itself but makes the characters more real is what’s missing.
Not only that, but it visually looks like a stage rather than a real place. Characters look out of place, their costumes look fake and the sets look fake. Production designers seem increasingly incapable of making shows/movies look like grounded places that the viewers can immerse themselves in. Just compare early GoT seasons to the later GoT seasons. It isn't just rushed story writing trying to push the plot along, the production quality got worse, costumes, the sets, props, details etc. Looking at the Series Production Designers, you had Gemma Jackson doing the first 3 seasons and Deborah Riley doing season 4 to 8. Not saying that Deborah Riley was doing a bad job, but I think that everyone working on the show stopped caring after the writers/producers started to shove the plot at teleportation speed. In season 8 almost everyone is wearing black.
World of tanks?
There is on big message you may have missed and I think it is one of the main problems this show is gonna have... They want to portray the UNSC as bad colonizers and they also portrayed the military in general in a bad way because of "the message", but a big part of Halo IS the military heroism of the UNSC who were fighting for all humanity. It felt sooo incredibly stupid to me to see marines with warthogs and pelicans running to attack the chief, like wtf?? They definitly did not play the games at all...
Indeed, I don't remember where I read it, but in an interview the writers of the show have tell exactly this, that they didn't play the games, at all.
However, to be fair the UNSC weren’t exactly the nicest group of people either. One only needs to look at how they recruit the soldiers/children for the Spartan II project. And those children were recruited before the Covenant even made their appearance
@@aimanmarzuqi4804 Double to be fair, the Spartan program wasn't a full on UNSC endeavor, was it? I thought it was more in the realm of ONI or even some secret project that Halsey was at the head of (as we see her being questioned at the beginning of Halo 4 by an ONI spook for her war crimes of making child super soldiers).
Either way, beyond the Spartan program, in defense of the show's idea of the UNSC, there were multiple works that had insurgents rise up. The Spartan program was brought to life because humanity was fighting the Insurgent factions, but as Halsey says in that Halo 4 intro scene, the Covenant attacked and no one had an issue with the moral ramifications of the Spartans when they started kicking the Covenant's asses off of their worlds almost single handedly.
@@PANCAKEMINEZZ True to that
@@PANCAKEMINEZZ the Spartan 2 program was completey behind the scenes with ONI backing Halsey for it as a spec op/suppression force against inssurectionists. The rest of the UNSC had no idea on how and why the Spartan program started
I watched Disparu’s video on the article about the writer’s inspiration, and they literally said they felt that they didn’t want to be limited by the games, and so they ignored them and went to the books (as if those are a separate canon), but then couldn’t wrap their heads around the lore there, and so just went “screw it, we’re doing our own thing”.
The line from about the writers NEEDING to tell THEIR stories, that Disparu highlighted, was all the confirmation anyone should need to know this was never going to be Halo. If a writer needs to tell their stories, then they should start their own universe and write their stories there. Halo fans want to see Halo stories, not the stories of the cheapest writers Paramount could hire.
Yep. If they simply watched "Halo: Fall of Reach" the movie, and just the "Entire Halo Story in 3 Minutes" by ArcadeCloud... That is all they strictly needed to know, with hiring a lore buff to fit stuff in, but no they threw everything out and with there being no Origin story for John117 they are pulling the shitty 'I'm not at fault because I'm an abducted slave.' story line. Where if the Fall of Reach was part of the AU lore, John and all the other Spartans know about it and have resolved that issue. The story line is a spit in the fact for anyone who knows the Fall of Reach movie.
@digifalc0087 I want a Disparu & Knights Watch team up review of the season finale episode.
Chief takes of his helmet only when his job is done. To do otherwise would possibly jeopardize mission accomplishment. Chief is all about completing the mission. It’s in the tagline:
“Finish the Fight”
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.” - J.R.R. Tolkien
There doesn't need to be a face to identify with a character or for a character to show emotion. The movie V for Vendetta showed us that.
Yeah but then how will we see the actors face!
Its reaaaaalllllyy important the actor gets face time!
Hollywood is fucking stupid.
@@Sone01TheFirst With how often actors in these rolls get overlooked and not get the recognition that they deserve, I can understand wanting them to get face time. Just actually work it into the story so that it fucking works instead of a cheap, lazy input.
Even more recently, the Mandalorian has further cemented that, even barely showing his face
Judge Dread 2012 proved the same thing, yes you can see his mouth, but that is all you ever see and he never felt like less of a person for doing so.
...or RoboCop. Darth Vader. The weird smoke dude from Hellboy II. Rorschach. The Question. The Man in the Iron Mask. XD
All my life i wanted a Halo tv series. Now i want to die. I played Halo since it first came out on OG Xbox. I refuse to watch the show. Thank you Shad, Oz, and Nathan for suffer in my place and telling me how horribly pissed i would have been if i decided to hurt my soul and watch it.
I'd download it if you can just to check it out. It's worth it for now. Theres a lot the show can do to ruin the rest of the show but for now it's a good adaptation in my opinion. I've played the games too just fyi, first halo on xbox then played til 3 but never played 4 or up
“When you first saw Halo, were you blinded by its majesty?”
Reach was already a soft retcon that Bungie didn't want to make. 1-3 was a complete mythological story. It also had totally different implications that the forerunners were human predecessors, not just random Aliens.
Oz: hello darkness my old friend
Because a vision softly creeping
In V for Vendetta we didn't see his face but he was relatable and ICONIC.
and the Karl Urban Judge Dredd
@@horrificpleasantry9474 Oh yeah! That movie was awesome and man he did a great Job.
@@horrificpleasantry9474 Karl Urban DREDD is fucking awesome
The last thing they have to do to break Oz is adding communists to the show.
"Death is a suitable alternative to Communism" - Oz
@@ThatGuy-mt7hq I always love when people use that quote from fallout considering it's blatantly making fun of that idea lol
Share videos discussing why despite the attempt at irony people identify with the anti-communist robot. Because it's so badass and awesome more than it is "ironically mocking".
Just like the nice guy comic, about the nice guy getting trashed by some feminist. The intent of the comic was to make fun of the nice guy but everybody ended up liking him instead.
You can see Oz's soul is just gone. If it isn't, by the end of this not halo show, it will be.
This is all a symptom of serious cultural decline.
Paramount+ writing this show based off nothing but a poster is actually the perfect way to describe how this show feels
Me “I wonder how was the show”
*see Oz face…
Me again “oh… so bad??”
I'm not as big a Halo fan as I was a WoT fan, but I have played most of the games starting from day 1. Sad to think we may NEVER AGAIN get any series based on something good that isn't tainted by these overconfident, hamfisted, uninspired, bland ideologues and their bad writing and boring self-inserts.
World of Tanks
@@ls200076 I was thinking Wheel of Time, but I guess... 🤔
@@ls200076 I honestly thought he meant World of Tanks.
Let me give you a little light of hope my friend it’s called Sonic
and the sequel is looking to be just as good. They may be few and far between but some companies still want to make money
@@LordB-dg8ks only downside for me is that I never had a Sega growing up and only played Sonic games for maybe 10-20 combined hours in my whole life (never watched the cartoon either).
Man, Oz looks like he's gonna tell his friend not to come to school tomorrow
Don't come to Blood Gulch tomorrow...
This is why I shall forever cherish the expanse. Even with the changes they made from the books it is still my favorite sci fi show
After STD: Sexually Transmitted Disease, and Star Trek Peehard, this was always the inevitable conclusion.
I've basically given up on everything made in the west. Luckily, there's still plenty of good stuff coming out of countries like Japan, Korea, and India.
India. Lmao.
@Adeptus Astartes That's pretty much my attitude to video games nowadays. We went from getting like 10 good games per year in the 90's and 00's, to maybe 2 or 3 a year in the 2010's and now even fewer in the 2020's. In other words, the majority of the good video games we're going to see in our lifetime actually already exist.
I don't think TV and movies are _quite_ that bad yet, but things are heading that way. The pandemic certainly took its toll, but maybe things will bounce back.
its NOTHING but lazy woke garage EVERYWHERE now days
Arcane is our only saving grace, and that's not even technically "local".
What are some good Indian properties? I'm pretty unfamiliar with anything from there.
I've never seen Oz so quiet and sad like at the beginning of the video. I feel you man, I had the same reaction after the wheel of time episode 1
The Witcher: I somehow survived
Star Wars: HOW AM I STILL ALIVE?
Star Trek: NO WE AREN'T!
Marvel: Sometimes I feel like dieing
DC: I escaped Death. Somehow I can see it creeping in the darkness. But I wasn't hurt.
LOTR: This was a heavy hit!
Halo: It is my turn now?
Poor Oz...you can feel the pain of a real fan seeing what he loves being tortured and burned alive right in front of him...stay strong man and just forget this exists!
First Shad with WoT and now Oz with this...i fear for Nathan's safety 😅
You'd think as Microsoft's primary IP, they'd take extra care to ensure a quality adaptation. They delayed Infinite a year after the reveal backlash.
MS doesn't suffer that much if the series bombs. Paramount takes most of that risk.
Lol
This is Cortana she's got my back, she can decode alien transmissions like mowing down a pack of Grunts. I would advise no to get hacked by her, her computing systems can take over Covenant warships.
Looks like the Halo show did a number on Oz. He looks like an aspirant for the Death Guard from 40k.
Pre-heresy or post? I want to know whether your calling me depressed or bloated.
@@teamozOFFICIAL depressed and sickly. The Halo TV show is actually a conduit for nurgle's rot. Highly contagious.
Michael in STD, Soji in Picard, Kwan in Halo. I am noticing a trend with these Paramount Plus series.
Everything woke turns to shit.
Woman of color is the Baby Yoda to the White Male's Mandalorian.
Oz: The Fall of Reach? The Halo lore is clear that the covenant was wiping out human colonies...
“This is the song that never ends, it goes in and on my friends..”
"... Some people started singing it not knowing what it was..."
Thanks for saving me from watching it myself guys... I really appreciate the sacrifice
Oz is gonna be refilling those Dr Pepper cans with cheap whisky by the time this series is over.
I think they might be already
"Watching it, so you don't have to..."
If it's as bad as that, please, spare yourselves the misery: Oz looks ready to off himself... There's no need to subject yourselves to garbage... 🙏🙏🙏🙏
oh...i've been looking forward to this.
Oz's face at the start says it all
I don’t understand how people who hate SciFi and Fantasy, or in the best case just misunderstand it, keep getting jobs to adapt them into live action.
How does this keep happening again and again and again? Why do execs give money to people so they can lose more in the long term?
I’m not even asking out of anger anymore, just curiosity because… why?
political agenda.
organic cultural unfiers are to be tarnished and replaced with a combined state- corporate narrative to secure control.
even if it means reigning over ruins.
these people have no concept of true, conciousness based, value. only of relative dominance with no longevity, and therefore stunted value.
Because it's expensive to hire writers with enough knowledge, intelligence, and imagination write good SciFi and Fantasy.
It's a mixture of nepotism and the kind of industry-wide political gatekeeping Fractal mind is talking about. The showrunners only hire friends, and friends of friends, to work as writers and producers. And the main defining factor of who they will consider a friend is whether or not their political views align.
That's why so many shows now are so on-the-nose with their contemporary political commentary. It's not just a simple case of writers trying to push "the message" through propaganda, it's signalling. It's them saying "Hey guys, look, I'm one of you. I'm safe to hire for other projects."
The end result is a selection process that favours certain political views, or at least an ability to convincingly feign them, above talent.
Because they hate you.
They won't lose money in the long-term, that's the issue. They make less money, but less than absolutely breaking the bank is still a lot of money, so they don't even realize they're being mediocre, they're so filled with hubris. It's the same reason the Gaming industry thinks they're doing so well, meanwhile we have a constant stream of like 3-dev indie games destroying the market because AAA titles are so bad.
They show Master Chief's face? That's an easy nope for me.
It's off for like the las ten minutes of the show too. Absolutely horrible.
same
even iffff you could justify the action of "look i'm human"
it doesn't justify having the helmet off for the REST OF THE EPISODE and probably a good chunk of the next one
50 seconds in and Oz is already regretting his life choices.
He just like me fr
I’d love to see Oz’s facial reactions in real time for any new shows. Would be hilarious!
@@BENR8108 Lucky for you, we recorded our viewing live. It'll be coming out soon.
"anything over a Halo 3 out of 10 is bad" agreed.
Can't agree, I loved Reach and ODST almost as much as the main trilogy, they had fun and well written stories
Yeah those may have been some fighting words.
Reach was already a soft retcon that Bungie didn't want to make. 1-3 was a complete mythological story. It also had totally different implications that the forerunners were human predecessors, not just random Aliens.
Halo TV series was literally a bait and Switch in season 1. The first half of this episode was actually pretty good. Then it went off the rails after that first action sequence. Lol
I would really appreciate a brief synopsis of the plot when y’all do reviews like these. Other than that, excellent work as usual. I’m really glad that Nathan has begun speaking up more
The plot is waman strong for no reason and they rescue chief. All jokes aside, they show his face in first episode when he’s never shown it in a single game.
There was no plot, they even said that
@@alexandermartinez732 Lmao that’s such a ridiculous statement that I don’t even know where to begin! I guess I’ll lead with this: U mad, bro?
@@yuukimasamura5143 well you do see his head and eyebrows and eyes in the legendary end of halo 4. I remember running into a man who was offended that he wasn't black. While sad in one sense, that's also a great sign that they had done a good job of letting players see themselves in the character
@@R.E.-Gato haven't seen the show so idk, but it's possible for a production to not have a plot. That would essentially be saying that there were no character or story arcs. That can in turn be summarized as saying that the characters or environment didn't change. Are the bad guys on the way at the beginning and the end? Are the characters scared at the beginning and the end? Stuff like that.
Stallone taking off his helmet immediately in Judge Dredd and Master Chief taking off his helmet was more a sign that the actors, or writers had no respect for the source material
and the HALO writers did admit to never have played or read anything about the game
Gotta love when asian man used the mini gun on the elites and did nothing and few scenes later Chief uses that EXACT SAME MINI GUN and kills the elites. What. The. Fuck.
Why does that old Halo Landfall short feel more Halo than the tv show does and I don't even know that much about Halo.
It's because the director of Landfall actually did research and stuck with the lore
Great, another series to watch!
And by that, I of course mean your reviews.
y'know what they coulda used for magic mcguffin that would've worked? AN ENGINEER! there are actual biological creatures in halo engineered to perfectly understand all engines and shit made to repair forerunner ships. (and any other)
just have them find one of them and it fixes the ship, problem solved.
Welcome to episode one of Oz's great depression.
tiny spoiler (not point in caring but just in case): the brat that I'm guessing is going to 'humanize' MC was threatening with lying to the colonies about the existence of the aliens that just massacred her colony and who she thought were just propaganda.
Because that's what daddy wanted. Don't mind that daddy's wish was based on wrong info and sticking with it it's gonna get the other colonies killed. Cos who cares about facts when you have emotions. That's empowerment for y'all.
She is the one that's gonna be giving MC the moral lessons. Roflmao it's always the same and it's so painfully stupid
-i will not spread propaganda UNSC attacked my people
-ALIENS attacked your people we have video
-video can be doctored you LIE
-YOU WERE THERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@ealtar yup sounds like my last conversation about politics.
@@Ashtor1337 It's not by accident. Hollywood doesn't understand morality. Kant and Descartes began the downward spiral by promoting subjectivism. We used to believe there were absolute metaphysical truths, absolute beauty, absolute goodness, and absolute truth. Kant denied the metaphysics and beauty, and thought he could still have goodness and truth. But that's not true, because they're connected. Once beauty went, eventually we lost absolute goodness (ethics, morality). And within the last 10-15 years we've lost absolute truth itself. And when someone truly doesn't believe that there's a difference between right and wrong, true or false, ugly and beautiful, creator and creation, then these people cannot distinguish between a good story and a bad story. That's why we keep getting garbage. The writers literally couldn't spot a good story if it was presented to them. They can't tell the difference between shit and gold. That's why art is becoming so atrocious now. It is because of people's religious political beliefs.
@@horrificpleasantry9474 i kant it bothers me how much of an incomplete thought it is, tho academic philosophy is great ..... but people bring it out in the real world
as for writers they grew up looking at either their own reflexion or quite frankly garbage drama/sitcom
and because they don't have talent it ends up as ..... TELENOVELLA with an FX budget
No Oz, dont jump ! We need you yet.
There are people who claim they've played all the games and read everything halo that are screaming their love for this show hahahaha I'm like, how much were you payed.
All subjective.
Exactly
"It's like knocking someone out with a lightsaber", great analogy and image there Nathan.
Oz now has two phobias, spiders and the halo tv show
I think the spider was better for him
I feel bad for Oz, but there's something about watching playful suffering that's so enjoyable. If that makes any sense.
We are living in an age where a razor advert gives me hope we might get our beloved franchises back one day..what a time to be alive.
Jeremy's Razors, that is one heck of a good commercial!
What you guys should do is save it for until Wheel of Time Season 2 is out, and do alternate reviews of Halo and WOT one after the other. That way Oz and Shad can have “breaks” from being tortured.
Captain: chief what do you plan on doing with that bomb?
Chief: blowing up the show
This happens when the whole production is held back by frame of ideology and an army of yes men.
They blackwashed the Keyes and then proceeded to pissed on their legacy. They made them black then made them bad. Hmmm. Weird.
This is a call to action - Shad, we need that Star Wars Bootleg you were talking about before. I can’t stand to see Oz like this.
I look forward to the next weekly Oz Torture Time.
Oz, buddy, couple of corrections:
1. The Insurrection didn't cease. Source: *The Cole Protocol*
2. Reach and Earth weren't the only planets left.
3. MAC's were a thing even before the Human-Covenant war.
Facts
Thanks!
On point 1, the number of cells drops MASSIVELY once it becomes known the covenant don't discriminate in their genocide. Source, fall of reach/first strike.
@@huemungy3212 and by your own admission they still existed. Just because most of the people supporting the same insurrection then realized they needed the unsc doesn't equal the insurrection becoming extinct. There were still small pockets here and there that were not threatened by the covenant and thought it was propaganda. They were no longer public enemy #1 or a viable threat because the UNSC had to protect the species. Much like the Taliban are no longer an issue when you have Russia and it's nukes taking territory. Much like Ukraine not willing to sign off on or meet NATO requirement for decades but as soon as a world power send in tanks their leaders will sign agreements with anyone. Small threats and selfish power hungry assholes tend to disappear when major threats show up.
@@Ashtor1337 Lmao of fucking course you bring in real world politics. Aside from that though, my point is literally just to add more context to OP's statement. Take your need for an argument somewhere else.
Sgt Avery Junior Johnson. The man who kicked so much ass he not only survived the Covenant invasion of earth when he was almost 80 years old and still in active duty, but also growing up in Chicago. Rest in peace Sarge!
if i remember correctly in the novels the first mission the master chief did involve blowing a huge hole on hold in an insurrectionist space settlement. years later during the covenant war master chief somehow ended up in the same station which ended up with the master chef blowing yet another hole as a form of distraction again. lol
putting a hole in an insurrectionist space habitat pretty much made sure any future interactions would be a hostile one. not to mention the insurrectionist are also selling the coordinates of human controlled world for weapons so that they can conduct terrorism on UNSC populated worlds and they almost sold the coordinates of Earth.
Guys, are you looking forward to Fallout adaptation by Amazon as much as I do? Out this year! I'm already tying my noose.
Oh God, please no. They are destroying all of my favorite franchises.
Did ya guys notice how many women were giving orders in charge who don’t even look like they been that much in military service with high ranks
It's painfully obvious that making things to try to appeal to everyone is over. Until apathy becomes the normal reaction it will never end.
So what I'm hearing from this is that I shouldn't waste my time with the Halo TV series and should instead just enjoy red versus blue. Who else is with me?
Watch other fan animations as well. There’s one currently work in progress that’s being made by Sodaz.
Save yourselves money please even watch the cutscenes online in movie form, they're so well done. Well done to these gents I was so close to having to spend money to see this mess, thank you for saving me time/money!
Haven't watched the reaction yet, but just finished ep 1 myself. I am crying. What have they DONE!!!!!!
It's all so predictable now..
After 265 revisions, nothing is gonna be good. It's not that they improved it after 265 revisions, it's that anything interesting was filed off into "safe" predictable tasteless nothing.
That "I'm dead inside" look on Oz's face said it all.
"Oz, you look a bit jaded."
"Jaded....nah, jaded isn't the word I'd use to describe it. I'd say, um, suicidal."
Nathan: laughing at the absurdity
Shad: flabbergasted
Oz: dead inside
Oz looks as ill as Shad did after WOT season 1.... This isn't going to end well. God, they could've done the plot of Cole Protocol, Contact Harvest or even CE (as novelised in The Flood) and everyone would've loved it. This is just a disaster..... this is already over despite a following season and more episodes.
Karl Urban emoted just fine as Dredd without removing the helmet. But then again he had read the comics.
Oz looks like how I felt after seeing the Wheel of Time show.
Actually, the creators don't have contempt for the source. _They never bothered to research or look at it in the first place and proceeded to brag about it on MSM._
They did the same thing with He-man on Netflix, they sell one thing and deliver something completely different.
I think Hollywood is seriously conspiring to see if they can drive Mormon nerds into drinking.
“I hate sand.”-Anakin Skywalker XD
I spent 6 months in basic training. Propper customs and courtesies became a habit for me. Cheif was raised in the military. The concept of saying no to an order wouldn't even exist.
Also, Oz, there were a handful of "Inner Colonies", even during the events of Fall of Reach and the Battle for Earth. It was many of the Outer Colonies that were glassed/invaded, and a few Inner Colonies.
Reach was already a soft retcon that Bungie didn't want to make. 1-3 was a complete mythological story. It also had totally different implications that the forerunners were human predecessors, not just random Aliens.
The Convenant attack was not too dark, it accurate to how is discribed in all other media exept the games for rating reasons.
Yeah same here. The UNSC is also pretty evil it just so happens they are fighting genocidal aliens zealots.
"it's accurate to how it is described in all other media except the games"
I think you pretty much just summed up the problem with Halo as a series post Reach. Halo is a video game series first and foremost. Anything made outside of that should strive to remain faithful to the games, not aim to be the next big dark fantasy/sci-fi series or novel but with a Halo twist.
This is the reason the writing in the games went to absolute shit after 343 took charge. Rather than just focusing on the games, they're too busy trying to make everything fit with lore introduced by additional media. Problem is that lore was an inconsistent mess both logically and tonally even before Bungie stopped working on the games, which is why Bungie never paid attention to any of it.
@@NoahMoorman up to "ghost of onyx" were pretty fucking good
@@yewtewbstew547 no it's not and it never was. The books literally bridge Halo 1 and Halo 2. Go back and play the originals.
@@NoahMoorman what books did YOU read? Fall of Reach and First Strike are quintessential halo
Oz is literally how shad was on the end of wheel of time show.
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.” JRR Tolkien
I'll say it again. It should have been the actor who played The Punisher.
Oz looks exactly like how I felt about the wheel of time.
I LOVE HALO REACH! Just thought I’d throw that out there. Love the video
He gave it a halo 5 out of 10? That sound like a bit of a halo reach…
Jeez, poor Oz, he just looks so absollutely miffed at the show
Diversity Hire Kid: My Dad got split in half by an alien, BUT I'm going to tell everybody you (Earth/UNC/whatever) killed everybody! That's what he would have wanted! Are you serious? LOL ARE YOU SERIOUS!? A. I'm sure Daddy would be like, while this trade dispute is not good, AVENGE ME, kill those Aliens! B. The Earth Government you know to be pure evil, you just basically said kill me. GTFO Lol. Are you serious!?
This review was the best part of the episode.
Oz. Thank you for your sacrifice. Your conflict, and the tension that it brings, will be the best source of entertainment that comes out of this show.
Oh yeah, that makes you look REALLY good... "Chief".
🤣