I have NEVER seen so many 'strawmen' in a show/movie. A lawyer working in a high-end lawfirm giving another lawyer a poop map??? A thing no man has ever done. Head partners of law firms hiring and firing people at night in a crowded bar? Once again we are seeing a woman made to appear competent by making all the men around her ridiculously incompetent.
In response to why does She-Hulk get longer hair: I doubt the show will go into this, but the comics break down that the gamma radiation isn't exclusively turning them into monsters but bringing out their 'repressed' sides. For Bruce, it's all his repressed anger and desires to be strong when he was too weak and the mental health issues his been ignoring resulting in a split personality. For Jen, she was repressing desires to be more sexual/glamorous. Even in the comics, before her transformation, she was much more of a plain/mousy type of beauty. But her She-Hulk form is a bombshell because that's the side of her she was keeping quiet. And since she didn't suffer the same childhood abusive trauma/or mental health issues as her cousin her transformation does not come with a split personality. She just gains confidence and looks she was 'holding back'. This show will never go into that though. Because modern-day writing would never explore a woman's desire to be more conventionally attractive/super model-like as opposed to everyone is equally beautiful.
That’s brilliant. They’ve hinted at that aspect of her character, at the dinner table scene where her uncle is criticizing her curled hair, but I’d like them to lean more heavily into that idea. Sounds like a pivotal aspect of the character.
People who comment stuff like this after actually reading the comics are so helpful. Thanks! It really helps show how cool a character could have been.
@@KillerChickn Agreed, but at the same time look at Bayonetta: Bloody Fate such a great adaptation of the game, I know its not strictly manga or anime, but you can watch the cinematics and the movie and they line up so well.
The Woman in the Red Dress in the matrix is the type of woman that's more likely to be cat called. Jennifer looks fine but she's nothing special and her clothes and attitude reflects that.
She'd probably be the type that LIKES it. Cause it so rarely happens, so when it DOES happen she's like "Ohh, I must look so pretty today, I'm catching people's attention". That's a thing! Really hot women attract a lot of attention wherever they go cause they're bombshells, so they're just tired of people acknowledging it. THAT is the source of "ooh catcalling is bad" it's NOT it's FINE, they're just tired of hearing how beautiful they are so they complain about it. Like imagine if EVERYWHERE you went you had people shouting "Nice hair mate" at you. At first you're like "Yeaaaaah, I got some sweet ass hair." But eventually you'll just go "Ok, I get it, hair's great, thanks. Fucking hell." Women that don't attract so much attention LIKE being cat called because they don't usually get that, and it's a confidence boost. MEN work the same way, it's a totally normal thing. So the fact she's SO absurdly angry about "constantly being catcalled" which she wouldn't be, shows how horrible her personality is.
@@haku8135 Not only this, but there's levels and scales to things. She can be as constantly angry as she likes at being catcalled and mansplained to. However, is her level of anger anywhere near the absolute seeing red level of rage that actual life and death situations inspire? No. Obviously her anger is way more impotent compared to Bruce's. Her infinite amount of anger is a much smaller and weaker infinity of anger than the well that Bruce has. There's no nuance to it in this show, in fact it's portrayed to be the opposite, as if first world problems like that are more legitimate than watching your father beat your mom to death as a kid like Bruce went thru. They either act like the anger is exactly the same, or that women deal with worse.
@@KillerChickn Yeah like the CORE of the Hulk is "The angrier he gets, the stronger he gets" and yet with her devastating problems of being too attractive and being shit at explaining her supposed field of expertise, which she doesn't actually even have because the writers haven't researched it, she's better than the Hulk in literally every way.
In fairness, catcalling if kind of a game between the people doing it, so if she’s only walking past the work-gang during rush hour while they’ve been at work for hours, maybe she does get catcalled. I got catcalled by mistake once while packing hippy hair and a kilt… standards, they are not high on a crowded street
the show writers don't seem to have researched what the hulk has done in the past movies. they just see him as the butt to kick for man jokes that are not funny to anyone but the shills and themselves.
If she was a villain she’d even be a bad one at that too because she’s so one dimensional that she is fully aware that she’s a bad person but clearly doesn’t care xD
Villains understanding, but just being apathetic towards, their own evil doesn’t necessarily make them one dimensional or bad. The problem is that the writers are the ones who lack real self awareness on it.
@@diomedes7971 THAT is the biggest give-away. They declare the protagonist to be heroic and then indulge all of their delusional self-insert revenge fantasies... as if that's what a hero would do.
For the suit part, you could make it worse by having her say "my clothes are gonna tear", and he vaguely gestures as a random assistant shows up with a properly sized suit and shoes, showing just how much he only cares about She-Hulk for the marketing aspect. And with a creepy undertone of "how the fuck did he get her shoe size from 10sec in the courtroom the other day?". She should still note in a 4th wall break that the suit is of great quality and costs a fortune (especially tailor made in 24h). That would give a lot of character details about the boss in a single act
The onething I agree with, is that the opposing council would certainly push for a mistrial on the grounds of biasing the jury by saving them. Lawyers have won motions for far less.
I’m happy that I no longer have to subject myself to this trash anymore. Since I cancelled by Disney + subscription last July. Less money I’ll be giving them to fund this shit. Lol
On the matter of the trial: It would have been a mistrial either way. Because the jury was attacked But they managed to get She Hulk off the case in the same sentence It's a very lawyer style trick
The best thing about the She Hulk show is it only continues to reaffirm my absolute zero regret cancelling my D+ subscription for over a year now. Thanks, Disney. May you inspire many more to do the same! 👍
It would help convince me she's being kept down because she's a woman if you showed me she actually was a good lawyer and deserved advancement. All I've seen so far is about 12 seconds of generic closing argument.
Not even generic--outright bad. How do you end your closing argument without any reference to the facts of the case? Also, my favorite blunder of the show is that she, as the prosecutor, closes AFTER the defense. How on earth did the writers not even get that right? And you can't even argue that it's for dramatic purposes because they could achieve the same order events by having her deliver a rebuttal argument which prosecutors do give after the defense's close. It's so sad that this show debuted the same week Better Call Saul ended. That show put in the effort to correctly cite the appropriate legal statutes being invoked in their court scenes. And they managed to actually show lawyers (men AND women) be great at their job.
If I'm not mistaken in the comics her transformations are triggered by confidence not anger. So my idea is you can keep the parts where she's insanely good at Hulk stuff but she lets her powers go to her head and she becomes overconfident and reckless. Thus causing property damage and putting peoples lives at risk. Or what about this? She goes out as She-Hulk just painting the town red and having a grand old time but when she has to go back to work as Jennifer Walters she has a massive hangover and that's why she was fired.
@Latest Obsession there is a logic to the story and there are continuity errors. They are describing a continuity error, you are describing the logic of the story.
As I recall(¹), in the scenes where she had her hair in a bun, she walked like an NPC and had skin that looked more like plastic. Could they be crude, half-finished animations, only intended to be place holders and pre-viz? Producer/director to animator: "So that fight scene has gorgeous hair animation. We spent several days shooting that, so totally worth it! Now, are you telling me that the scene in the office that we shot in half an hour will take you a week, just to get the hair right?" Animator: "I'm afraid so." P/D: "Let me revise my Gantt chart... Uh-oh, we will miss the deadline, and that won't do!" ¹) No, I'm not re-watching to confirm!
There was a Wolverine reference in this episode. There's a news article at some point "man fights with metal claws in bar brawl". Honestly, that disappoints me because Logan deserves better than the MCU is going to give him. Also, I'm genuinely surprised it's a man, I was totally expecting then to just replace Logan with Laura, just assign his backstory to her and maybe give Laura's role to Gabby
Spoiler Warning: At the end of the season, Ellen Paige stars as Nopeeno, the Man with a Vagina. Originally a villian, our wonderful, brave, beautiful, smart, sexy, perfect heroine She-Hulk turns Nopeeno to the side of right! In turn, Nopeeno has an impact on our heroine as well and she decides to identify as Johnifer Walters, the Smartest and Most Capable Man Alive! *Season 2: HE-Hulk*
If she was a firm partner, then yes, the firm would have professional pictures of her. But if she was just starting there (which seems like she was) would be surprising for them to have these. And if she was a firm partner she could not have been fired so easily. I am also certain that she would have had grounds to sue the firm for firing her. Because she could argue they are discriminating against her due to her superpowers, which do not impact her ability to do her job.
Objection... I think the DAs office would defend by pointing out her unique nature automatically contaminates the jury's ability to be impartial. They can point out the trial result we witnessed and the GLK partners statement of the outcome as evidence.
@@winterwolfsden I will not contest that this jury is sufficiently biased. That results in a retrial in this instance not a mistrial they would need to find new jurors which may take months but there wouldn't be consequences for a lawyer aphrending an armed individual in front of the court if it was in self defense or defense of others. So this should be no different just a new trial needs to happen.
Regardless of anything she had ONE botched trial. ONE! Losing ONE trial is grounds for termination? WHEN THAT TRIAL WAS ATTACKED BY A SUPER VILLAIN AND SHE SAVED EVERYONE'S LIVES!? You're damn right she should sue their asses.
What's funny is that She-Hulk in the comics does the 4th wall breaks BUT everyone around is aware that she's talking to someone but don't know or see who. Until she came across her friend, Wheezie.
This is what happens when you hire people to check boxes instead of qualified people. The show runner and writers said they were not good at courtroom drama, yet they are still trying to do it when they know they are not qualified to do so. Same problem in comics for the past 5 years or so.
The part where Jennifer says she couldn't represent Emil due to conflict of interest because he tried to kill Bruce shows that she knew everything Bruce had been through in episode 1 when she started ranting like a lunatic feminist at him about cat calling and mansplaining being worse than anything he's ever experienced.
One example where I’ve seen other characters noticing a 4th wall break and it still working was in the TMNT: Turtles Forever movie. It was basically a crossover between two generations of Ninja Turtle cartoons. The 80s version of Raphael would sometimes make a wisecrack while looking at the audience, and the 2003 characters would just look at him like, “Who is he talking to?” Another example, in Doom Patrol, the villain of the show was narrating out loud. When one of the characters asked who he was talking to, he actually started verbally listing off all the types of people who he figured would be watching the show.
26:44 ""So many shows and movies in the MCU have already kind of covered that and, you know, it's been talked about a lot that it just felt like, ok so many people have already covered that territory that we've accepted it," Gao explained. "We live in a world where that's already happened and people have already moved on." In other words they have no idea what to do with the blip trauma so they just scrapped it.
It reminds me a little of Agents of Shield. Now bear with me. The destruction of Shield nuked the entire premise of the show and they had to somehow work around it. Which they did pretty well with it becoming the central premise in some ways for effectively 3 seasons. But it is clear that they had to work around it because the event was too big in the context of the show to ignore. Still they way it wrenched the show was highly visible. The Blip is probably the single most dramatic moment in the MCU and frankly for a movie they can slot it into the background with a throwaway line or ten. Movies tend to be fast paced enough you NEED to only stick to the most relevant things and can skirt around the background. But the various parts series have no way to do that unless it is THE plot like it was in FATWS (leaving aside how the botched things in that show). It is too big so they need to just choose to ignore it. Right now the only hope I have for any Blip related trauma to be looked at is the new Ant Man. Both ones so far were better than they had any right to be and the fact that Scott's daughter is going to be a major character means they have a real place to look at it.
I am increasingly becoming convinced that making the Blip last 5 years was a mistake. It's caused so many problems that no one seems prepared to deal with and the only reason it seems to be necessary is so Tony can have a four-year-old daughter.
The supermax no super power scene would have been a great place for a fourth wall break. She could have turned to the screen and said "watch this," takin taken off an earring turned back to her normal self and handed it to him saying "I'll be back for this later." And then when she's heading out there's an interaction where she forgets the earring and it's being given back to her, and then she looks at the camera with that comical oops type of look.
I kinda just died inside at the part when bad sexist lawyer dude said, "There's a hot chick, I'm gonna go talk to it." I need to know, how many people in America have said this in the last few decades without being shunned by the whole of society? Or period, is this something that people say? Is it just something that rich Hollywood people have to deal with? Where is this social critique coming from? Who are the culprits? This lady acts like this guy represents most men, and this show makes it feel like it's supposed to represent me me, but I'm sitting here cringing as I watch that scene, so obviously I think that's a ridiculous, stupid thing to say. I think the biggest problem with this show is that it thinks it's a deep social commentary, but it comes across as a winy complaint about an exaggerated scenario. As a side note, I've seen a lot of voices these days saying that porn is actively healthy and so religion just suppresses people. Are those the same people screaming about objectification? Or do they at least agree?
yes our country is insane, our morals are dead, and idiots rule with an iron fist. Women do in fact think men are bad, i don't care if some don't think that because the major message men receive is such, it's filled in our media daily. But all the bad things you hear men do, are in fact pretty rare. We don't cat call every girl, we don't harass them, we don't abuse them daily for pleasure. But you won't hear any good messages about men anymore.
One of the few times I laughed was when she was walking through that hallway to meet Abomination and she said to the guard, "Is he gonna offer me fava beans and a nice Chianti." I appreciated the nod to Hannibal Lecter.
That is the shallowest pop culture reference nod to the character of Hannibal Lecter. Very fitting of a show that did not refer to the source material to take their probably third hand reference to something better than itself.
The part about "no superpowers allowed" sign reminded me about the "no weapons allowed" signs here, and their effectiveness. Which brings me to my point. This show is accidentally almost satirical in its takes on modern society.
at least people could take off there weapons if they wanted to how are people supposed to "take off" their superpowers? The sign is immediately invalid in public places.
The conflict of interest thing is particularly amusing to me because earlier in this same episode they point out conflict of interest leads to mistrial, then say it can be hand-waved with a sheet of paper. The trial from episode one is deemed a mistrial because the jury would favor the lawyer because the lawyer saved their life (legally sound). They then say a piece of paper could be signed to negate conflict of interest (not legally sound, but now canon in this world). So my question is: Wouldn't the opposition and judge be willing to sign this magical sheet of paper on account of her saving them too? Then again, if they do not need the opposition or judge to sign off on it, then did the jury refuse to sign it in her first trial? The writers' sheer inability to follow their own rules from one scene to the next is mindblowingly bad.
So her issue with the conflict of interest was that Blonsky tried to kill her cousin, so she doesn't feel like she sould be the person to represent him because of an inherent bias. That's fair enough. The company waves it off like it's nothing, actively making this case a condition of her getting hired, when they should really be concerned of her potential bias affecting her ability to represent the client, to a point where she might take the case but actually do things to sabotage it so Blonsky doesn't get out of prison. It's things like that, that writers of a legal show would have to think about, but because the writers admit they're shit, we don't get any of that. So there's really three ways this might go, considering the mentality of the writers. Either the firm is setting her up to fail, because patriarchy keeping women down, OR she pulls it off, but it turns out that Blonsky wasn't rehabilitated at all and she just let a monster loose, who also has several criminal pen pals to rampage with. Or they just need him out of prison for that Thunderbolts show/movie thing whatever it is, so She-Hulk is just a very expensive explanation of how Blonsky is not jailed.
When She-Hulk said "I am something of a scientist myself" my faith in cinema was rekindled. . . . . . . . Reality: you guessed it, this show's failure is of biblical proportions🤣
My favorite part is when she said, "It's Hulkin' time!" and then she proceeded to SheHulk all over everything. And by that, I mean complain about microaggressions.
Watch the episode, I must admit I was hoping for a slow motion train wreck. You guys are spot on. Not only was it simplistic and highly predictable, it was like watching water evaporating out of a shallow pan. Your video are more entertaining and have more honest laughter then the episode. I am afraid to wonder if it will get worse or better, in fear of jinxing the show.
I think the writer brought out all the big guns, as far as the feminist commentary, in the first episode and now has nothing new to offer, and will retread everything.
@@SoundEngraver I first read LOTR books when I was 13 in 1976. Had many a night discussion about the books, movies and radio adaptations. Peter Jackson’s movie we’re like a fresh breeze in a stale room(hobbit was okay not great, tried too hard to be a marvel movie in my opinion). I had some small hope that this would not be too cringy and fill out the world of middle earth.
@@SoundEngraver sorry was watching the ring of power. She hulk was the first comic book I was given. I was a huge fan of the original tv show and my mom thought She Hulk was the Hulk. (She also thought Star Wars was over when intermission came during trash compactor scene). So it was nostalgic I guess, but it feels like tacking your kids and grandkids to see the home you grew up in. It is some how feels off/wrong.
I agree with everything, just a minor detail: in the comic books, it's explained that the gamma transformations reflect the inner turmoils and subconscious of an individual -Bruce Banner, due to an horrible childhood, has load and loads of repressed rage, cathalized into him turning into a massive beast made for brutal violence -Samuel Sterns is frustrated for people belittling him and his intellect, so he turns into a freak with a literally gigantic brain -Doc Samson has a passion for superheroes and a idealized image of them, so he turns into a green-haired, well, Ssanson as view through the filter of a bad Harmony novel -Emil Blonsky hates himself and loathes what his life turned him into, so he turns into a giant monster -Jennifer Walters was always overlooked and put aside, so she turned into an incredibly attractive eight-feet-tall amazon.
"no superpowers allowed inside"... we actually had that once in a RPG session. "No weapons allowed". Our batlemage remained outside.^ Don't remember if he was army-trained and thus inclined to follow the law or just making a point, it has been years.
i notice from most of the reviews that i v seen that only AZ talk about that in the first ep they make you think that she works as a lawyer, at a private office..but in the second episod you find out that she is a ADA....that means that she works for the goverment....but when she gets fire...they make you think that the firm fired her....and this is not how it works....you cant get fired the next day ...there is a process of inverstugation....the union rep its send to defend you and a state employ ......this is a horrible script and not thought at all ..
58:44 Wait, let me get this straight. So the prison didnt want to let her in in Hulk form, but the boss wants her to be in Hulk form at all times? I suspect the writers will just gloss over that.
Why would they nullify her powers? Also power nullification doesn't always work on Hulks because their is only so much energy those things can handle before over loading. Also if something happened and Jen got hurt I wouldn't want to be the one to tell Bruce. I value me legs
What I would call she hulk in a world where the hulk didn't exist? Green Godess springs to mind. Lady Justice if you want to lean into the courtroom side
Kind of related, but I visited an EB Games store the other day and went to geek out over all the merch on display. Only... I didn't geek out. Looked at one Black Series figure of Obi-wan and didn't even take it off the shelf. That's how dead Star Wars is to me lately, that I don't even want to buy stuff I'd normally collect by default. So... thanks Disney, you bloody champs. Oh yeah, and I did see some She-hulk merch but I think all I did was roll my eyes as I walked past it.
I'm going to make a prediction: The friendly "hot" guy in the office is going to be used for a joke in the next episode, where she finally finds a decent guy that she likes, but then he turns out to be gay and then we all laugh and laugh because we didn't expect anything like that, at all!!!
@@jasonbernard4930 Because it is so hypocritically. When you have a show like this with the intention of making men look like rubbish people and how they objectify women. Like that guy in the bar that called the girl, he sees "It". Yet they have no problem with her having a picture of a guy's ass on her phone, and pushing a hot guy into the show, which I can only assume they are going to treat exactly the same way as they are promoting is wrong if that is what they end up doing. Again it's just a prediction :)
3 months ago i said in the trailer Can't wait for the part where she realizes how great she is and how great she was all along just by being a woman, and looks exactly the way it is going.
Tony Stark: Who am I gonna pay? The robo-bird dude that punched me in the face and helped get my BFF crippled or the misunderstood, impossibly powerful super-genius that's been attacked almost all his adult life?
So... instead of doing a more paced start, the writer rushed a bunch of crap on the first episode because as herself said 'I didn't want to spend 15 minutes setting up the origins' AND YET THE NEXT EPISODE IS FILLED WITH FILLER! Great writing, darling. you are really a professional
For the bathroom thing, a lot of women want privacy with public restrooms, they can sometimes feel embarrassed when people walk in on them. My gf has talked about this a number of times to me.
Just to point out on Deadpool. He’s hyper sane, he knows he’s a comic character and it actually makes him super depressed, some of his comics are incredibly dark and tragic
From personal experience, I like to know where the decent restrooms are. (I once had a regrettable experience with a pit toilet in a state park after a long car drive, ferrying my daughter to a job interview.)
I have worked at workplaces that were that silly about the rules. They made silly rules that achieved nothing and we followed them and they made new rules. And we did things there that we meant to be annoying to the silly rule makers that were not illegal by the rules and they made new rules. So the no super powers allowed in the building rules and get allowed in the building is familiar to me.
The photos thing is because lawyers usually have these very corporate-professional images taken for their roster and websites, so in this case, it makes sense that if they googled her, it’d be the first thing to turn up. I’m actually be kinda inclined to hire a lawyer posing on a bear-skin rug or something but unfortunately it’s become something of an ambulance chaser kind of look
There were actually thousands of 1 and 10 star reviews before the first episode of She-Hulk even aired. The 10 stars, in their defense, clearly stated in their reviews it was not an honest review rating, but simply trying to counteract the review bomb. Meanwhile, the 1 star reviews were criticizing the show making the claim they watched it before it came out. For once, the claim is actually valid. And Mark was quoting the article, not saying it himself. The article actually states the 1 and 10 votes were coming in equal measure, but the review bombing was still successful because any genuine votes have to move the bar from the rigid "5.5" it was stuck at from all of the false 1 and 10 votes. My question is: Why the heck do they let people review a show before it airs? That is just dumb.
Jen shoulda appealed her dismissal from the DAs office under the Equal Opportunity Anti-Discrimination protections and People with Disabilities Act. Being fired for acquiring a blood-borne infection is illegal. While I understand "the bit" is to take the piss of the show for its many blunders, you are being willfully oblivious on the points that actually reflect awareness of her new condition. In LAST episode, Bruce repeatedly harangued her about the need to alter her wardrobe to be Hulk-flexible. She paid attentiin to that for her traini g arc in frumpy/sport clothes, but adamantly refulsed to budge on her Professional attire, and the joke was made. She is now Outed and can expect to be rapidswitching forms in all settings now. She LEARNED her lesson from Bruce. Cut to Ep 2 and she SHOWS she has more flexible professional attire at the BAR NIGHT before she gets hired and has acquired a modest assortment of Spandex+Stretch material clothing, even though not yet aware of the "Work AS She-Hulk" clause, she has 4 warm braincells and may, JUST MAY be able to forsee that "Superhuman Law Division" cases could develop into situations where she should at least be prepared to change. It is one of the few times thay are actually NOT inconsiatent, and another "Bruce was right" moment is reaffirmed.
Shad, her hair is perfect because she's perfect, because her blood is so special she's probably a mutant, a god's avatar and part alien celestial as well. The thing you can expect with bad writer's is that they will throw the kitchen sink, then the toilet, because dialogue coherent with good story telling requires both skill and serious life experiences.
The trial probably would have ended for that day but would carry on later. The mistrial thing was probably be the only part that makes sense out of the show
To be honest, her firing comes from a good idea done wrong. Let me explain before tossing stuff at me. The point "You're a superhero: you're going to influence the jury with your status and, even if you don't, you make a good case for a retrial" isn't a bad point, but firing her is stupid! You keep her and make her boss state "You'll stay with us for PR, but you'll never get foot in a tribunal again". If she was so committed to be an active lawyer, this is worse than actually fire her. To be able to work again as she intends, she had to quit herself. Maybe after a bit of trials and error, she could even have her own firm...
I'd have liked to see when she broke it to her family and friends.... and see how far her friendships would stretch, and how strained her relationship with her family was, they all know too well what happened to Bruce...
UA-camr Influecer Villain: No commenters remember that the early Woke She-Hulk run, back when the She-Hulk comic was re-titled to just 'Hulk' and she was given an ugly grey with random green 'veins' over her body, written by noted foodie, Mariko Tamaki? She created a youtuber influencer villain, and I was wondering if that scene was a call-back to that issue? (Not that the used the same character, 'cause Marvel does everything to avoid paying any sort of royalty to creators, but the idea of a She-Hulk villain being an influencer is not new.)
If the Hulk hadn't appeared first Jen could have been called the Gammazon. I just came a small poem, 'She-Hulk episode two, We could've had gold, But instead, we got...'
I’m telling you, people need to be told this. “Now you’re thinking about this all wrong. It’s not so much what you look like, it’s what’s inside he [we] can’t stand.”
35:58 This little moment is KEY. One of the many reasons people with poor mental health can't write good stories is because they don't understand foundation, and _ALL_ SJWs are what they are because they did not grow up with any strong foundational values. Whatever you think of Christianity, this really is why church is important. I wasn't taught, "shun the unbelievers" or "gays are the devil" when I want to Sunday school as a child. I was taught stuff like, "love thy neighbor."
Leo Tolstoy, Anne Rice, Stephen King, Emily Dickinson, Charles Dickens, Sylvia Plath, Ezra Pound and others all suffered from mental health issues. They're some of the most renowned authors and poets. Depression doesn't prevent art or understanding of the human condition it can enhance it. Your first sentence is false. Edit: to fix some spellings
The state of modern comics is so cringe 😬 and with all the adaptations it’s no wonder all the new movies and tv shows suck. Hopefully Rippaverse will give us something great!
Honest to God I really tried to watch this episode but I couldn't. The first couple of minutes made me cringe so hard I immediately turned it off. I've been around plenty of playas since I was a kid, real one night stand bandits, but never in my entire life have I heard a man call a hot chick an "it". I couldn't watch past that point I'll try to watch it again so I'll understand this review but I had to post this comment. Post watching it: All right so the only thing I'm slightly interested in is the Abomination storyline. This show is really frustrating it could be amazing if the writers cared about story first but it feels half-baked at best. Which is unfortunate because I really wanted to like this show smh. The Dad was nice at least lol
Same. Hate the first few minutes immediately but then I just had it running in the background. couldn't care for her privileged life. She has it so easy compared to hulk and i hate her 4 that cz she whines so much.
@@cordcuttercam the main thing is in comparison to Bruce. His life with an abusive father, the death of his parents, multiple suicide attempts after becoming the Hulk, being on the run from the government all before joining the Avengers. For her to site cat calling as some rage inducing traumatic situation is insulting. Thor lost his entire family, best friend and most of his race, Tony lost both his parents and freaking died to save the world and she calls him a billionaire narcissist as if he didn't have insane character development. What has her life been besides struggling to climb the corporate ladder? Raking up student loans is her biggest struggle, come on man that's called life lol. That's standard middle class struggles man, you're acting like she came from a 3rd world country and was living in the trenches of the US struggling to learn the language and make something of herself. Life isn't easy but she had typical struggle.
oh... her interviewing the Abomination was sooooo bad, it was not professional at all. How can she think people can take her seriously when she's blundering so bad all along? I do not get it, I felt uncomfortable and sorry for her for being so un-lawyer like...
about that Superhero influencer...remember what sparked the Civil War run in the comics.... and they're introducing mutants...oh no no no Then again...the writers at Marvel aren't that clever so it was probably unintentional
First, a major disruption during a trial could be grounds for a mistrial no matter what. Second, why fire her at all? Why not just have various super heroes/villains seek her out at her current firm? Have you seen Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law? That was a hysterical take on the concept.
Honestly, the "news photo" headshot has a DOZEN legitimate sources..... 1. Employee ID. 2. Employee of the Month. 3. Business Cards. 4. Advertising/PSAs (they are the DA office). 5. Chain of Command/Authority (often posted inside Govt agencies) Especially if the Court proceeding was restricted to a sketch artist, there wouldn't BE any reporters taking camera pics on the scene (unless they used a phone)
I think she-hulk varies on how her 4th-wall breaks. The serum they gave him before he became abomination messed with his mind is his claim. He's basically saying it caused his behavior to go so extreme. And it very well could be the case, if it was based on the same serum Captain America got, it is supposed to amplify everything about you, the good and the bad. He became a super soldier, but it amplified his worse traits and then he was given another dose that worsened the effect to the point he had the doctor guy turn him into the abomination.
When we were kids both me and my sister used to collect comics. I used to pull books like Daredevil, Elektra, Conan etc. She used to like Betty & Veronica, Hot Stuff, Richie Rich and Archie. Same medium completely different styles and stories. We used to trade and read each others books. I don't think either of us ever wanted an issue where Daredevils' car got so much dust on it Punisher mistook for his car & went joy riding. DD cried about his car being stolen. Basic Archie plot. That's what Marvel has turned into. Everything like serious action has turned in a mid comedy you can see being rerun on TV late at night. At least that show 'Mom' is actually funny enough to make you chuckle. She-Hulk isn't even that good. Who was an actionless/not funny super hero TV show made for?
34:47 - we all know Shad would want to do various tests. "Is armour worth it for a Super Hero?" "How do swords hold up to Super Heroes wielding them?" "Are nunchucks as just as bad when wielded by a Super Hero?"
I would say that there is a reason why most/many law firms would be cautious about employing a known hero, even more so a 'Hulk'. That she would be a polarizing figure by definiton. This is maybe most understandable from the DA's side, just one 'Hulk' hater would hang a jury. Legaly, you never really want the lead lawyer to be 'larger than life'. It's just too much inbuilt baggage thta she'd bring to any case she was involved in.
Stark can be a bit of a narcissist, but he's likeable and entertaining when he acts like an arse. He's also legitimately as brilliant as he thinks he is, making his ego deserved.
Disagree on him being quite as likeable, but it is made clear his flippant personality is indeed a proper flaw. And his ego, meaning HE must be the one to fix things, whilst being smart enough to often actually be the right one to do it. But I am affected by being burnt out on the "charming but is a dick to people" archetype, when I wasn't even fond of it in the first place.
And life/plot/other cherecters constantly punches him for being selfish arrogant narcis unlike she hulk and cap marvel. So in Stark it's cherecter flow with shown as flow. In new strong herous it's autor's flow.
@@markfreenick Indeed. It may be a lesser entry in the MCU but Iron Mans 2 and 3 both highlight and call Tony out on very specific character flaws multiple times. Rhodey does it in dramatic fashion in IM2, and the PTSD plot in IM3 is a big deal
I just love the fact that people on twitter think this is a good show BECAUSE it shows Easter eggs to other characters and films... If your show is only praised for it's Easter eggs than you've done a bad job. Here's a test for you try and name any side character in this show? What is her old bosses name? Story wise : Her being firing made no sense. What lawyer has ever been fired for being popular? Hell most lawyers would kill to have a reputation like that which can draw in people to use them. The excuse of bias is nonsense. There are plenty of well known lawyers out there (Most recent example Johnny Depp Lawyers). They weren't fired from their job and they have a lot of public favour. You can't use bias in this situation as if this was the case than celebrities wouldn't be allowed to be tried in court as it's likely the jury knows them or likes their films etc. Just because a jury member likes someone wouldn't sway them in their decision making. OR they can just get new Jury members which is the most likely situation.
I have NEVER seen so many 'strawmen' in a show/movie. A lawyer working in a high-end lawfirm giving another lawyer a poop map??? A thing no man has ever done. Head partners of law firms hiring and firing people at night in a crowded bar? Once again we are seeing a woman made to appear competent by making all the men around her ridiculously incompetent.
"Head partners of law firms hiring and firing people at night in a crowded bar? "
Don't mind that, it helps keep the runtime short.
That poop map character felt like they were trying the whole Ghostbusters 2016 thing with Chris Hemsworth's character.
Wait, you're watching this? I thought only Knights Watch were watching.
It’s a world that the late 30s single wine-mom think exist. they’re childish
I always thought the best place to poop in an office building is the toilet, didn't even come to my mind to contemplate alternative places.
In response to why does She-Hulk get longer hair: I doubt the show will go into this, but the comics break down that the gamma radiation isn't exclusively turning them into monsters but bringing out their 'repressed' sides. For Bruce, it's all his repressed anger and desires to be strong when he was too weak and the mental health issues his been ignoring resulting in a split personality. For Jen, she was repressing desires to be more sexual/glamorous. Even in the comics, before her transformation, she was much more of a plain/mousy type of beauty. But her She-Hulk form is a bombshell because that's the side of her she was keeping quiet. And since she didn't suffer the same childhood abusive trauma/or mental health issues as her cousin her transformation does not come with a split personality. She just gains confidence and looks she was 'holding back'.
This show will never go into that though. Because modern-day writing would never explore a woman's desire to be more conventionally attractive/super model-like as opposed to everyone is equally beautiful.
That’s brilliant. They’ve hinted at that aspect of her character, at the dinner table scene where her uncle is criticizing her curled hair, but I’d like them to lean more heavily into that idea. Sounds like a pivotal aspect of the character.
@@Ellie_The_GameDev Anime has a corner on that market. They adapt every frame with painstaking faithfulness.
@@mr.x6313 Not always. It's why we get things like original Hunter X Hunter and the new one, or original Full Metal Alchemist, and new Brotherhood.
People who comment stuff like this after actually reading the comics are so helpful. Thanks! It really helps show how cool a character could have been.
@@KillerChickn Agreed, but at the same time look at Bayonetta: Bloody Fate such a great adaptation of the game, I know its not strictly manga or anime, but you can watch the cinematics and the movie and they line up so well.
The Woman in the Red Dress in the matrix is the type of woman that's more likely to be cat called.
Jennifer looks fine but she's nothing special and her clothes and attitude reflects that.
She'd probably be the type that LIKES it. Cause it so rarely happens, so when it DOES happen she's like "Ohh, I must look so pretty today, I'm catching people's attention".
That's a thing! Really hot women attract a lot of attention wherever they go cause they're bombshells, so they're just tired of people acknowledging it. THAT is the source of "ooh catcalling is bad" it's NOT it's FINE, they're just tired of hearing how beautiful they are so they complain about it. Like imagine if EVERYWHERE you went you had people shouting "Nice hair mate" at you. At first you're like "Yeaaaaah, I got some sweet ass hair."
But eventually you'll just go "Ok, I get it, hair's great, thanks. Fucking hell."
Women that don't attract so much attention LIKE being cat called because they don't usually get that, and it's a confidence boost. MEN work the same way, it's a totally normal thing.
So the fact she's SO absurdly angry about "constantly being catcalled" which she wouldn't be, shows how horrible her personality is.
@@haku8135 Not only this, but there's levels and scales to things. She can be as constantly angry as she likes at being catcalled and mansplained to. However, is her level of anger anywhere near the absolute seeing red level of rage that actual life and death situations inspire? No. Obviously her anger is way more impotent compared to Bruce's. Her infinite amount of anger is a much smaller and weaker infinity of anger than the well that Bruce has. There's no nuance to it in this show, in fact it's portrayed to be the opposite, as if first world problems like that are more legitimate than watching your father beat your mom to death as a kid like Bruce went thru. They either act like the anger is exactly the same, or that women deal with worse.
@@KillerChickn Yeah like the CORE of the Hulk is "The angrier he gets, the stronger he gets"
and yet with her devastating problems of being too attractive and being shit at explaining her supposed field of expertise, which she doesn't actually even have because the writers haven't researched it, she's better than the Hulk in literally every way.
She's the type who reacts really poorly... which is great fun.
In fairness, catcalling if kind of a game between the people doing it, so if she’s only walking past the work-gang during rush hour while they’ve been at work for hours, maybe she does get catcalled.
I got catcalled by mistake once while packing hippy hair and a kilt… standards, they are not high on a crowded street
the show writers don't seem to have researched what the hulk has done in the past movies. they just see him as the butt to kick for man jokes that are not funny to anyone but the shills and themselves.
I’d wager not one of them read the Comic books.
If she was a villain she’d even be a bad one at that too because she’s so one dimensional that she is fully aware that she’s a bad person but clearly doesn’t care xD
Villains understanding, but just being apathetic towards, their own evil doesn’t necessarily make them one dimensional or bad. The problem is that the writers are the ones who lack real self awareness on it.
@@diomedes7971 THAT is the biggest give-away. They declare the protagonist to be heroic and then indulge all of their delusional self-insert revenge fantasies... as if that's what a hero would do.
For the suit part, you could make it worse by having her say "my clothes are gonna tear", and he vaguely gestures as a random assistant shows up with a properly sized suit and shoes, showing just how much he only cares about She-Hulk for the marketing aspect. And with a creepy undertone of "how the fuck did he get her shoe size from 10sec in the courtroom the other day?". She should still note in a 4th wall break that the suit is of great quality and costs a fortune (especially tailor made in 24h). That would give a lot of character details about the boss in a single act
The onething I agree with, is that the opposing council would certainly push for a mistrial on the grounds of biasing the jury by saving them. Lawyers have won motions for far less.
I’m happy that I no longer have to subject myself to this trash anymore. Since I cancelled by Disney + subscription last July. Less money I’ll be giving them to fund this shit. Lol
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Stop giving them your money to destroy the things you love.
You're doing what most cannot.
@@SoundEngraver Yup and I’m all the more happier because if it too. Lol
On the matter of the trial:
It would have been a mistrial either way. Because the jury was attacked
But they managed to get She Hulk off the case in the same sentence
It's a very lawyer style trick
The best thing about the She Hulk show is it only continues to reaffirm my absolute zero regret cancelling my D+ subscription for over a year now.
Thanks, Disney. May you inspire many more to do the same! 👍
I would but my kids would kill me :)
don't worry we don't watch this crap LoL
It would help convince me she's being kept down because she's a woman if you showed me she actually was a good lawyer and deserved advancement. All I've seen so far is about 12 seconds of generic closing argument.
Not just a lawyer, but the Deputy DA! How could she complain about being disenfranchised or held down by society?
@@ChewieEst Lebron James and Beyonce claim they are oppressed
Not even generic--outright bad. How do you end your closing argument without any reference to the facts of the case?
Also, my favorite blunder of the show is that she, as the prosecutor, closes AFTER the defense. How on earth did the writers not even get that right? And you can't even argue that it's for dramatic purposes because they could achieve the same order events by having her deliver a rebuttal argument which prosecutors do give after the defense's close.
It's so sad that this show debuted the same week Better Call Saul ended. That show put in the effort to correctly cite the appropriate legal statutes being invoked in their court scenes. And they managed to actually show lawyers (men AND women) be great at their job.
@@ChewieEst yeah she shouldn't have had underlings at all and been making her bosses look good or something.
If I'm not mistaken in the comics her transformations are triggered by confidence not anger. So my idea is you can keep the parts where she's insanely good at Hulk stuff but she lets her powers go to her head and she becomes overconfident and reckless. Thus causing property damage and putting peoples lives at risk. Or what about this? She goes out as She-Hulk just painting the town red and having a grand old time but when she has to go back to work as Jennifer Walters she has a massive hangover and that's why she was fired.
Pretty sure most of the audience is content creators forced to watch for reviews (which collectively will get so many more views).
Her hair not only grows longer - but in the first episode it was tied up in a bun - turned long - then came back into the bun... how does that work?
Ssssshhhhhh... Don't think.
@@James_Bee "Please sir, I want some more."
@Latest Obsession there is a logic to the story and there are continuity errors. They are describing a continuity error, you are describing the logic of the story.
As I recall(¹), in the scenes where she had her hair in a bun, she walked like an NPC and had skin that looked more like plastic. Could they be crude, half-finished animations, only intended to be place holders and pre-viz?
Producer/director to animator: "So that fight scene has gorgeous hair animation. We spent several days shooting that, so totally worth it! Now, are you telling me that the scene in the office that we shot in half an hour will take you a week, just to get the hair right?"
Animator: "I'm afraid so."
P/D: "Let me revise my Gantt chart... Uh-oh, we will miss the deadline, and that won't do!"
¹) No, I'm not re-watching to confirm!
There was a Wolverine reference in this episode. There's a news article at some point "man fights with metal claws in bar brawl". Honestly, that disappoints me because Logan deserves better than the MCU is going to give him. Also, I'm genuinely surprised it's a man, I was totally expecting then to just replace Logan with Laura, just assign his backstory to her and maybe give Laura's role to Gabby
Spoiler Warning: At the end of the season, Ellen Paige stars as Nopeeno, the Man with a Vagina. Originally a villian, our wonderful, brave, beautiful, smart, sexy, perfect heroine She-Hulk turns Nopeeno to the side of right!
In turn, Nopeeno has an impact on our heroine as well and she decides to identify as Johnifer Walters, the Smartest and Most Capable Man Alive!
*Season 2: HE-Hulk*
If she was a firm partner, then yes, the firm would have professional pictures of her.
But if she was just starting there (which seems like she was) would be surprising for them to have these.
And if she was a firm partner she could not have been fired so easily.
I am also certain that she would have had grounds to sue the firm for firing her.
Because she could argue they are discriminating against her due to her superpowers, which do not impact her ability to do her job.
Objection... I think the DAs office would defend by pointing out her unique nature automatically contaminates the jury's ability to be impartial. They can point out the trial result we witnessed and the GLK partners statement of the outcome as evidence.
@@winterwolfsden "Like OMG. Color green literally like triggers me."
@@winterwolfsden I will not contest that this jury is sufficiently biased. That results in a retrial in this instance not a mistrial they would need to find new jurors which may take months but there wouldn't be consequences for a lawyer aphrending an armed individual in front of the court if it was in self defense or defense of others. So this should be no different just a new trial needs to happen.
Regardless of anything she had ONE botched trial.
ONE!
Losing ONE trial is grounds for termination?
WHEN THAT TRIAL WAS ATTACKED BY A SUPER VILLAIN AND SHE SAVED EVERYONE'S LIVES!?
You're damn right she should sue their asses.
What's funny is that She-Hulk in the comics does the 4th wall breaks BUT everyone around is aware that she's talking to someone but don't know or see who. Until she came across her friend, Wheezie.
This is what happens when you hire people to check boxes instead of qualified people. The show runner and writers said they were not good at courtroom drama, yet they are still trying to do it when they know they are not qualified to do so. Same problem in comics for the past 5 years or so.
The part where Jennifer says she couldn't represent Emil due to conflict of interest because he tried to kill Bruce shows that she knew everything Bruce had been through in episode 1 when she started ranting like a lunatic feminist at him about cat calling and mansplaining being worse than anything he's ever experienced.
One example where I’ve seen other characters noticing a 4th wall break and it still working was in the TMNT: Turtles Forever movie. It was basically a crossover between two generations of Ninja Turtle cartoons. The 80s version of Raphael would sometimes make a wisecrack while looking at the audience, and the 2003 characters would just look at him like, “Who is he talking to?”
Another example, in Doom Patrol, the villain of the show was narrating out loud. When one of the characters asked who he was talking to, he actually started verbally listing off all the types of people who he figured would be watching the show.
from what I've read it works in her comics and people look at her odd about it (shrug)
Lmao how you managed to make an hour long video with 21 minutes of nothing. You guys rule love ya
26:44 ""So many shows and movies in the MCU have already kind of covered that and, you know, it's been talked about a lot that it just felt like, ok so many people have already covered that territory that we've accepted it," Gao explained. "We live in a world where that's already happened and people have already moved on."
In other words they have no idea what to do with the blip trauma so they just scrapped it.
It reminds me a little of Agents of Shield. Now bear with me. The destruction of Shield nuked the entire premise of the show and they had to somehow work around it. Which they did pretty well with it becoming the central premise in some ways for effectively 3 seasons. But it is clear that they had to work around it because the event was too big in the context of the show to ignore. Still they way it wrenched the show was highly visible.
The Blip is probably the single most dramatic moment in the MCU and frankly for a movie they can slot it into the background with a throwaway line or ten. Movies tend to be fast paced enough you NEED to only stick to the most relevant things and can skirt around the background. But the various parts series have no way to do that unless it is THE plot like it was in FATWS (leaving aside how the botched things in that show). It is too big so they need to just choose to ignore it.
Right now the only hope I have for any Blip related trauma to be looked at is the new Ant Man. Both ones so far were better than they had any right to be and the fact that Scott's daughter is going to be a major character means they have a real place to look at it.
I am increasingly becoming convinced that making the Blip last 5 years was a mistake. It's caused so many problems that no one seems prepared to deal with and the only reason it seems to be necessary is so Tony can have a four-year-old daughter.
The supermax no super power scene would have been a great place for a fourth wall break. She could have turned to the screen and said "watch this," takin taken off an earring turned back to her normal self and handed it to him saying "I'll be back for this later." And then when she's heading out there's an interaction where she forgets the earring and it's being given back to her, and then she looks at the camera with that comical oops type of look.
Deadpool realistically can get away with breaking the 4th wall, because he's crazy. We're essentially his imaginary friends.
I kinda just died inside at the part when bad sexist lawyer dude said, "There's a hot chick, I'm gonna go talk to it." I need to know, how many people in America have said this in the last few decades without being shunned by the whole of society? Or period, is this something that people say? Is it just something that rich Hollywood people have to deal with? Where is this social critique coming from? Who are the culprits? This lady acts like this guy represents most men, and this show makes it feel like it's supposed to represent me me, but I'm sitting here cringing as I watch that scene, so obviously I think that's a ridiculous, stupid thing to say.
I think the biggest problem with this show is that it thinks it's a deep social commentary, but it comes across as a winy complaint about an exaggerated scenario.
As a side note, I've seen a lot of voices these days saying that porn is actively healthy and so religion just suppresses people. Are those the same people screaming about objectification? Or do they at least agree?
The writers clearly don't know how to human.
That's it! No one does talk that. Jen is an unreliable narrator and we're hearing lines she thinks she hears, not what is said literally.
I guess the guy just don't know what a woman is.
yes our country is insane, our morals are dead, and idiots rule with an iron fist. Women do in fact think men are bad, i don't care if some don't think that because the major message men receive is such, it's filled in our media daily. But all the bad things you hear men do, are in fact pretty rare. We don't cat call every girl, we don't harass them, we don't abuse them daily for pleasure. But you won't hear any good messages about men anymore.
@@tonythaler8472 That's a common thing these days. You'll find that many people cannot simply answer "what is a woman?"
One of the few times I laughed was when she was walking through that hallway to meet Abomination and she said to the guard, "Is he gonna offer me fava beans and a nice Chianti." I appreciated the nod to Hannibal Lecter.
Guard should have replied, "This is prison. Fava beans and chianti are not in the budget."
That is the shallowest pop culture reference nod to the character of Hannibal Lecter. Very fitting of a show that did not refer to the source material to take their probably third hand reference to something better than itself.
The part about "no superpowers allowed" sign reminded me about the "no weapons allowed" signs here, and their effectiveness. Which brings me to my point. This show is accidentally almost satirical in its takes on modern society.
at least people could take off there weapons if they wanted to how are people supposed to "take off" their superpowers? The sign is immediately invalid in public places.
The conflict of interest thing is particularly amusing to me because earlier in this same episode they point out conflict of interest leads to mistrial, then say it can be hand-waved with a sheet of paper. The trial from episode one is deemed a mistrial because the jury would favor the lawyer because the lawyer saved their life (legally sound). They then say a piece of paper could be signed to negate conflict of interest (not legally sound, but now canon in this world). So my question is: Wouldn't the opposition and judge be willing to sign this magical sheet of paper on account of her saving them too? Then again, if they do not need the opposition or judge to sign off on it, then did the jury refuse to sign it in her first trial? The writers' sheer inability to follow their own rules from one scene to the next is mindblowingly bad.
So her issue with the conflict of interest was that Blonsky tried to kill her cousin, so she doesn't feel like she sould be the person to represent him because of an inherent bias. That's fair enough.
The company waves it off like it's nothing, actively making this case a condition of her getting hired, when they should really be concerned of her potential bias affecting her ability to represent the client, to a point where she might take the case but actually do things to sabotage it so Blonsky doesn't get out of prison.
It's things like that, that writers of a legal show would have to think about, but because the writers admit they're shit, we don't get any of that.
So there's really three ways this might go, considering the mentality of the writers. Either the firm is setting her up to fail, because patriarchy keeping women down, OR she pulls it off, but it turns out that Blonsky wasn't rehabilitated at all and she just let a monster loose, who also has several criminal pen pals to rampage with. Or they just need him out of prison for that Thunderbolts show/movie thing whatever it is, so She-Hulk is just a very expensive explanation of how Blonsky is not jailed.
When She-Hulk said "I am something of a scientist myself" my faith in cinema was rekindled.
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Reality: you guessed it, this show's failure is of biblical proportions🤣
My favorite part is when she said, "It's Hulkin' time!" and then she proceeded to SheHulk all over everything.
And by that, I mean complain about microaggressions.
Watch the episode, I must admit I was hoping for a slow motion train wreck. You guys are spot on. Not only was it simplistic and highly predictable, it was like watching water evaporating out of a shallow pan. Your video are more entertaining and have more honest laughter then the episode. I am afraid to wonder if it will get worse or better, in fear of jinxing the show.
I think the writer brought out all the big guns, as far as the feminist commentary, in the first episode and now has nothing new to offer, and will retread everything.
Why watch it?
@@SoundEngraver I first read LOTR books when I was 13 in 1976. Had many a night discussion about the books, movies and radio adaptations. Peter Jackson’s movie we’re like a fresh breeze in a stale room(hobbit was okay not great, tried too hard to be a marvel movie in my opinion). I had some small hope that this would not be too cringy and fill out the world of middle earth.
@@phillipmetcalf9404 Thanks, I mean why watch She-Hulk?
@@SoundEngraver sorry was watching the ring of power. She hulk was the first comic book I was given. I was a huge fan of the original tv show and my mom thought She Hulk was the Hulk. (She also thought Star Wars was over when intermission came during trash compactor scene). So it was nostalgic I guess, but it feels like tacking your kids and grandkids to see the home you grew up in. It is some how feels off/wrong.
I agree with everything, just a minor detail: in the comic books, it's explained that the gamma transformations reflect the inner turmoils and subconscious of an individual
-Bruce Banner, due to an horrible childhood, has load and loads of repressed rage, cathalized into him turning into a massive beast made for brutal violence
-Samuel Sterns is frustrated for people belittling him and his intellect, so he turns into a freak with a literally gigantic brain
-Doc Samson has a passion for superheroes and a idealized image of them, so he turns into a green-haired, well, Ssanson as view through the filter of a bad Harmony novel
-Emil Blonsky hates himself and loathes what his life turned him into, so he turns into a giant monster
-Jennifer Walters was always overlooked and put aside, so she turned into an incredibly attractive eight-feet-tall amazon.
"no superpowers allowed inside"... we actually had that once in a RPG session. "No weapons allowed". Our batlemage remained outside.^
Don't remember if he was army-trained and thus inclined to follow the law or just making a point, it has been years.
That early outro though… 😂
i notice from most of the reviews that i v seen that only AZ talk about that in the first ep they make you think that she works as a lawyer, at a private office..but in the second episod you find out that she is a ADA....that means that she works for the goverment....but when she gets fire...they make you think that the firm fired her....and this is not how it works....you cant get fired the next day ...there is a process of inverstugation....the union rep its send to defend you and a state employ ......this is a horrible script and not thought at all ..
58:44 Wait, let me get this straight. So the prison didnt want to let her in in Hulk form, but the boss wants her to be in Hulk form at all times? I suspect the writers will just gloss over that.
I knew it was going to be boring
Then someone replied
“Says the assclown” and then deleted it like a coward, looks like he was wrong and I was right
Why would they nullify her powers? Also power nullification doesn't always work on Hulks because their is only so much energy those things can handle before over loading. Also if something happened and Jen got hurt I wouldn't want to be the one to tell Bruce. I value me legs
"Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there." I remember saying this a lot in my young adult life....
it comes across as the writers got the job because they claimed credit for work done in other writer jobs done by someone else.
That is prob more true then not.
Want so badly to forget what I saw, stickin' to the comics for now... 👍
Great idea ✅
What I would call she hulk in a world where the hulk didn't exist? Green Godess springs to mind. Lady Justice if you want to lean into the courtroom side
Kind of related, but I visited an EB Games store the other day and went to geek out over all the merch on display. Only... I didn't geek out. Looked at one Black Series figure of Obi-wan and didn't even take it off the shelf. That's how dead Star Wars is to me lately, that I don't even want to buy stuff I'd normally collect by default. So... thanks Disney, you bloody champs.
Oh yeah, and I did see some She-hulk merch but I think all I did was roll my eyes as I walked past it.
I'm going to make a prediction: The friendly "hot" guy in the office is going to be used for a joke in the next episode, where she finally finds a decent guy that she likes, but then he turns out to be gay and then we all laugh and laugh because we didn't expect anything like that, at all!!!
Damn why "hot" in quotes? The dude is pretty handsome
@@jasonbernard4930 Because it is so hypocritically. When you have a show like this with the intention of making men look like rubbish people and how they objectify women. Like that guy in the bar that called the girl, he sees "It". Yet they have no problem with her having a picture of a guy's ass on her phone, and pushing a hot guy into the show, which I can only assume they are going to treat exactly the same way as they are promoting is wrong if that is what they end up doing. Again it's just a prediction :)
You know, that makes sense.
3 months ago i said in the trailer Can't wait for the part where she realizes how great she is and how great she was all along just by being a woman, and looks exactly the way it is going.
The heir-apparent to Batwahman.
Tony Stark: Who am I gonna pay? The robo-bird dude that punched me in the face and helped get my BFF crippled or the misunderstood, impossibly powerful super-genius that's been attacked almost all his adult life?
End game was so.shitty i dont even remember a hulk snap
To be fair, an opposing lawyer would absolutely put forward a motion for mistrial after the attack.
Jessica Gao's t-shirt should have read "Phenomenally Atrocious Hack".
So... instead of doing a more paced start, the writer rushed a bunch of crap on the first episode because as herself said 'I didn't want to spend 15 minutes setting up the origins' AND YET THE NEXT EPISODE IS FILLED WITH FILLER!
Great writing, darling. you are really a professional
For the bathroom thing, a lot of women want privacy with public restrooms, they can sometimes feel embarrassed when people walk in on them. My gf has talked about this a number of times to me.
Just to point out on Deadpool. He’s hyper sane, he knows he’s a comic character and it actually makes him super depressed, some of his comics are incredibly dark and tragic
The no powers in the building thing is like if they said that to wolverine and he just retracted his claws
Finally someone mentions the first thing I wondered WHY DOES HER HAIR GROW LONG STRAIGHT AND PERFECT
9:38- yes
Image is a big thing for lawyers, so getting a good picture is considered crucial.
If those that knew her saw her turn green, they would call her the She-Grinch.
The minibar office scene reminded me of the tik tok video of that young women in techs day of chia bowls and eucalyptus towls.
From personal experience, I like to know where the decent restrooms are. (I once had a regrettable experience with a pit toilet in a state park after a long car drive, ferrying my daughter to a job interview.)
1:07:54 The Thunderbolts... they have been hinting at The Thunderbolts well before She-Hulk.
Need more Nathan Kdrama reviews!
Spiderman became a photographer who takes pictures of himself. Peter didn't sit at a bar complaining they didn't like his landscape shots.
I have worked at workplaces that were that silly about the rules. They made silly rules that achieved nothing and we followed them and they made new rules. And we did things there that we meant to be annoying to the silly rule makers that were not illegal by the rules and they made new rules. So the no super powers allowed in the building rules and get allowed in the building is familiar to me.
This video is 3x longer than the episode and yet exponentially more entertaining than the actual show good job guys 👍
Thank you for bringing Nathan
The photos thing is because lawyers usually have these very corporate-professional images taken for their roster and websites, so in this case, it makes sense that if they googled her, it’d be the first thing to turn up.
I’m actually be kinda inclined to hire a lawyer posing on a bear-skin rug or something but unfortunately it’s become something of an ambulance chaser kind of look
Great reviews, keep up the good work 👍
There were actually thousands of 1 and 10 star reviews before the first episode of She-Hulk even aired. The 10 stars, in their defense, clearly stated in their reviews it was not an honest review rating, but simply trying to counteract the review bomb. Meanwhile, the 1 star reviews were criticizing the show making the claim they watched it before it came out. For once, the claim is actually valid. And Mark was quoting the article, not saying it himself. The article actually states the 1 and 10 votes were coming in equal measure, but the review bombing was still successful because any genuine votes have to move the bar from the rigid "5.5" it was stuck at from all of the false 1 and 10 votes. My question is: Why the heck do they let people review a show before it airs? That is just dumb.
Jen shoulda appealed her dismissal from the DAs office under the Equal Opportunity Anti-Discrimination protections and People with Disabilities Act.
Being fired for acquiring a blood-borne infection is illegal.
While I understand "the bit" is to take the piss of the show for its many blunders, you are being willfully oblivious on the points that actually reflect awareness of her new condition.
In LAST episode, Bruce repeatedly harangued her about the need to alter her wardrobe to be Hulk-flexible. She paid attentiin to that for her traini g arc in frumpy/sport clothes, but adamantly refulsed to budge on her Professional attire, and the joke was made. She is now Outed and can expect to be rapidswitching forms in all settings now. She LEARNED her lesson from Bruce.
Cut to Ep 2 and she SHOWS she has more flexible professional attire at the BAR NIGHT before she gets hired and has acquired a modest assortment of Spandex+Stretch material clothing, even though not yet aware of the "Work AS She-Hulk" clause, she has 4 warm braincells and may, JUST MAY be able to forsee that "Superhuman Law Division" cases could develop into situations where she should at least be prepared to change.
It is one of the few times thay are actually NOT inconsiatent, and another "Bruce was right" moment is reaffirmed.
Shad, her hair is perfect because she's perfect, because her blood is so special she's probably a mutant, a god's avatar and part alien celestial as well. The thing you can expect with bad writer's is that they will throw the kitchen sink, then the toilet, because dialogue coherent with good story telling requires both skill and serious life experiences.
The trial probably would have ended for that day but would carry on later. The mistrial thing was probably be the only part that makes sense out of the show
Hulk is using a mobile phone in space.!
You can't even use one in a plane
To be honest, her firing comes from a good idea done wrong. Let me explain before tossing stuff at me. The point "You're a superhero: you're going to influence the jury with your status and, even if you don't, you make a good case for a retrial" isn't a bad point, but firing her is stupid! You keep her and make her boss state "You'll stay with us for PR, but you'll never get foot in a tribunal again". If she was so committed to be an active lawyer, this is worse than actually fire her. To be able to work again as she intends, she had to quit herself. Maybe after a bit of trials and error, she could even have her own firm...
I'd have liked to see when she broke it to her family and friends.... and see how far her friendships would stretch, and how strained her relationship with her family was, they all know too well what happened to Bruce...
Lost opportunity to rebrand She-Hulk as The Gammazon!
UA-camr Influecer Villain: No commenters remember that the early Woke She-Hulk run, back when the She-Hulk comic was re-titled to just 'Hulk' and she was given an ugly grey with random green 'veins' over her body, written by noted foodie, Mariko Tamaki? She created a youtuber influencer villain, and I was wondering if that scene was a call-back to that issue? (Not that the used the same character, 'cause Marvel does everything to avoid paying any sort of royalty to creators, but the idea of a She-Hulk villain being an influencer is not new.)
If the Hulk hadn't appeared first Jen could have been called the Gammazon.
I just came a small poem,
'She-Hulk episode two,
We could've had gold,
But instead, we got...'
I’m telling you, people need to be told this. “Now you’re thinking about this all wrong. It’s not so much what you look like, it’s what’s inside he [we] can’t stand.”
35:58 This little moment is KEY. One of the many reasons people with poor mental health can't write good stories is because they don't understand foundation, and _ALL_ SJWs are what they are because they did not grow up with any strong foundational values.
Whatever you think of Christianity, this really is why church is important. I wasn't taught, "shun the unbelievers" or "gays are the devil" when I want to Sunday school as a child. I was taught stuff like, "love thy neighbor."
Leo Tolstoy, Anne Rice, Stephen King, Emily Dickinson, Charles Dickens, Sylvia Plath, Ezra Pound and others all suffered from mental health issues. They're some of the most renowned authors and poets. Depression doesn't prevent art or understanding of the human condition it can enhance it. Your first sentence is false.
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@@Murasakiriyu I'm positive it plays a part.
The state of modern comics is so cringe 😬 and with all the adaptations it’s no wonder all the new movies and tv shows suck. Hopefully Rippaverse will give us something great!
Honest to God I really tried to watch this episode but I couldn't. The first couple of minutes made me cringe so hard I immediately turned it off. I've been around plenty of playas since I was a kid, real one night stand bandits, but never in my entire life have I heard a man call a hot chick an "it". I couldn't watch past that point I'll try to watch it again so I'll understand this review but I had to post this comment.
Post watching it:
All right so the only thing I'm slightly interested in is the Abomination storyline. This show is really frustrating it could be amazing if the writers cared about story first but it feels half-baked at best. Which is unfortunate because I really wanted to like this show smh. The Dad was nice at least lol
Same. Hate the first few minutes immediately but then I just had it running in the background. couldn't care for her privileged life. She has it so easy compared to hulk and i hate her 4 that cz she whines so much.
@@KaiNLinda which is sad because She Hulk is usually such a positive character from memory.
@@jornaspierre5615 another murdered character by marvel, the serial killer strikes again.
@@KaiNLinda WHAT PRIVELEGED LIFE , SHE'S AN ATTORNEY WHO STARTED FROM THE GROUND UP WITH NOTHING
@@cordcuttercam the main thing is in comparison to Bruce. His life with an abusive father, the death of his parents, multiple suicide attempts after becoming the Hulk, being on the run from the government all before joining the Avengers. For her to site cat calling as some rage inducing traumatic situation is insulting. Thor lost his entire family, best friend and most of his race, Tony lost both his parents and freaking died to save the world and she calls him a billionaire narcissist as if he didn't have insane character development. What has her life been besides struggling to climb the corporate ladder? Raking up student loans is her biggest struggle, come on man that's called life lol. That's standard middle class struggles man, you're acting like she came from a 3rd world country and was living in the trenches of the US struggling to learn the language and make something of herself. Life isn't easy but she had typical struggle.
oh... her interviewing the Abomination was sooooo bad, it was not professional at all. How can she think people can take her seriously when she's blundering so bad all along? I do not get it, I felt uncomfortable and sorry for her for being so un-lawyer like...
about that Superhero influencer...remember what sparked the Civil War run in the comics....
and they're introducing mutants...oh no no no
Then again...the writers at Marvel aren't that clever so it was probably unintentional
First, a major disruption during a trial could be grounds for a mistrial no matter what. Second, why fire her at all? Why not just have various super heroes/villains seek her out at her current firm?
Have you seen Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law? That was a hysterical take on the concept.
Honestly, the "news photo" headshot has a DOZEN legitimate sources.....
1. Employee ID.
2. Employee of the Month.
3. Business Cards.
4. Advertising/PSAs (they are the DA office).
5. Chain of Command/Authority (often posted inside Govt agencies)
Especially if the Court proceeding was restricted to a sketch artist, there wouldn't BE any reporters taking camera pics on the scene (unless they used a phone)
I think she-hulk varies on how her 4th-wall breaks.
The serum they gave him before he became abomination messed with his mind is his claim. He's basically saying it caused his behavior to go so extreme. And it very well could be the case, if it was based on the same serum Captain America got, it is supposed to amplify everything about you, the good and the bad. He became a super soldier, but it amplified his worse traits and then he was given another dose that worsened the effect to the point he had the doctor guy turn him into the abomination.
When we were kids both me and my sister used to collect comics. I used to pull books like Daredevil, Elektra, Conan etc. She used to like Betty & Veronica, Hot Stuff, Richie Rich and Archie. Same medium completely different styles and stories. We used to trade and read each others books. I don't think either of us ever wanted an issue where Daredevils' car got so much dust on it Punisher mistook for his car & went joy riding. DD cried about his car being stolen. Basic Archie plot. That's what Marvel has turned into. Everything like serious action has turned in a mid comedy you can see being rerun on TV late at night. At least that show 'Mom' is actually funny enough to make you chuckle. She-Hulk isn't even that good. Who was an actionless/not funny super hero TV show made for?
Hair wise in the comics too she had that change in her first appearance
good video, but where can i find one of those amazing gambesons Shads is wearing over that hoodie?
They don't want to vilify the act of destroying cities, since the people they are appealing to have done it plenty of times.
need Shad to rewrite she hulk episodes, it'd actually make sense for parts then
I like how they made a point of not bringing up gender/sex or making any sexist remarks. On a completely unrelated note, I missed oz.
In the end, Hulk movie The bombination was in his human form in the hospital
In fact, the episode was 22 minutes long. 5 minutes were credits and remembering the first episode
34:47 - we all know Shad would want to do various tests. "Is armour worth it for a Super Hero?" "How do swords hold up to Super Heroes wielding them?" "Are nunchucks as just as bad when wielded by a Super Hero?"
I would say that there is a reason why most/many law firms would be cautious about employing a known hero, even more so a 'Hulk'. That she would be a polarizing figure by definiton. This is maybe most understandable from the DA's side, just one 'Hulk' hater would hang a jury. Legaly, you never really want the lead lawyer to be 'larger than life'. It's just too much inbuilt baggage thta she'd bring to any case she was involved in.
Stark can be a bit of a narcissist, but he's likeable and entertaining when he acts like an arse. He's also legitimately as brilliant as he thinks he is, making his ego deserved.
Disagree on him being quite as likeable, but it is made clear his flippant personality is indeed a proper flaw. And his ego, meaning HE must be the one to fix things, whilst being smart enough to often actually be the right one to do it. But I am affected by being burnt out on the "charming but is a dick to people" archetype, when I wasn't even fond of it in the first place.
And life/plot/other cherecters constantly punches him for being selfish arrogant narcis unlike she hulk and cap marvel. So in Stark it's cherecter flow with shown as flow. In new strong herous it's autor's flow.
@@markfreenick Indeed. It may be a lesser entry in the MCU but Iron Mans 2 and 3 both highlight and call Tony out on very specific character flaws multiple times. Rhodey does it in dramatic fashion in IM2, and the PTSD plot in IM3 is a big deal
43:02 that angle would have been very cool to see even with a comedic tone to it!
Shad, read 'what shall we ask of writers?' by albert maltz
I just love the fact that people on twitter think this is a good show BECAUSE it shows Easter eggs to other characters and films... If your show is only praised for it's Easter eggs than you've done a bad job. Here's a test for you try and name any side character in this show? What is her old bosses name?
Story wise : Her being firing made no sense. What lawyer has ever been fired for being popular? Hell most lawyers would kill to have a reputation like that which can draw in people to use them. The excuse of bias is nonsense. There are plenty of well known lawyers out there (Most recent example Johnny Depp Lawyers). They weren't fired from their job and they have a lot of public favour. You can't use bias in this situation as if this was the case than celebrities wouldn't be allowed to be tried in court as it's likely the jury knows them or likes their films etc. Just because a jury member likes someone wouldn't sway them in their decision making. OR they can just get new Jury members which is the most likely situation.