HALO episode 5 REVIEW - action doesn't save this crap!
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I just treasure that Shad, who didn't play much of the games and didn't know the lore until recently, knows more about the lore than the company that created the live action series. Just a little research goes a long way Paramount.
He's half brute at this point. If they actually adapted the first season there'd be gold here. Even have it through the viewpoint on a soldier that works with the Master cheeks. The enemy could be the Arbiter before he failed the prophets
He only needs to play through Halo CE. I played through 2,3, and 4, but have no memory what is actually going on in the story. 1 had the most memorable story.
this comment is not true in any way shape or form.
@@ctrlaltdebug 4 is completely ignorable
I actually agree on 2, but I will fully admit that might be because I had discovered the joy of having 2 monitors for 2 windows and had other stuff I was monitoring at the same time (also didn't play until the MC collection). Everyone says it's the best one for story, but...IDK
3 was more about the characters than the plot, but it had a significant amount of story in it. I played it first of any of the series, but even I knew it was a sequel, because it felt like an ending to a long story
Personally I love 1's story the most, both in content and presentation
It's intentional. Stop putting it off as incompetence. 343 has wanted to change our perception of Halo since the whole split happened. The man who got ahold of the lore Bible and was left in charge when the others left, hated the original concepts of the story.
They WANT to destroy your beloved stories. It is NOT incompetence it is malice.
The only real Halo is Bungie Halo. Even then some questionable decisions in Reach.
One of the things that really pissed me off with this episode is how they failed to understand John's past and history that lay the foundations for who is he is. The show shows him as being a good kid and has him save the boy that was being rough on the rope bridge. In actual cannon, John was a total bully as a kid. He was very arrogant and self centered with a bit of superiority complex. He knew he was stronger and faster than other kids and made sure they knew two. When Halsey found him he was playing king of the hill with some other kids and being very rough and aggressive to maintain title of king. One of the first training exercises was a team obstacle course where that last team to the end doesn't get supper. John was the first to reach the end, however the other three members of his team were last and therefore he was punished along with them for coming in last regardless of the fact he personally, was first. After this he has a bit of self reflection and during a later exercise with similar rules, they were all scattered around in a forest a few miles from base and the last to return got no supper, he organizes a plan to get everyone back to base at the same time so no one goes without food. Through his leadership and the group working together they all get back at the same time and no one goes hungry. He goes from self centered jerk, to noble leader who looks out for his fellow spartan.
Holly hell, chief is awesome 👍
"Canon, what's that?" - The writers of the Halo show.
An actual good fucking constructive criticism comment.
@@drakkonahn8544 so to be a good constructive criticism you just have to point out how it differs from the crappy books the showrunners didn’t look at?
I actually remember this. It's a good redemption arc for a bully kid and a great moral lesson. Why didn't we see this in any live action or animated show?
"If the covenant want to wipe out this particular part of our history, It's fine by me"
need a meme of the REAL Master Chief(with helmet on!!) walking away while Paramount and 343 get glassed by a Covenant cruiser saying "Not my problem"
I guess covenant were actually woke. XD
That's Pvt. Jenkins' best quote, if you ask me.
@@TheREALSimagination RIP Pvt Jenkin. He no longer go Leeroy-ing.
@@AlexSDU Indeed
The American marine corps did an examination of female combatants, actually. It is quite telling and highly recommended as a read-through. Not only do they perform less well in combat overall, but have a much higher risk of killing or injuring non-combatants, as well as causing injuries to their own bodies from strain just by carrying military equipment. Just to name a few issues.
Things are a little different in sci-fi, because in most sci-fi properties, medical science has advanced to the point of offering genetic modifications that enhance strength, reflexes, and focus, though usually the improvements are minor. It still wouldn't realistically put women on par with men physically, all other things being equal. It would probably at least make them viable though.
Also if I recall squads the mixed men and women performed particularly poorly. Though that may have been a different study than the one you're referring to.
@@WatanukiProductions Given aforementioned fundamental differences, I wouldn't be surprised if mixed units performed DRASTICALLY worse than all-male or all-female. No amount of high tech gene therapies will solve that one.
@@WatanukiProductions Nope. That was included in the one I was talking about.
@@jaffarebellion292
Not really. The standard would just go up. The only way you would be able to make them equal while not making them one and the same is by introducing large exosuits, maybe more like mechsuits. Those would make straining wounds none-existent puting women at the same level men are (assuming mentally and emotionally both are at the same level under fire).
"Thanks for the tank. He (Chief) never gets me anything."
"Oh I know what the ladies like."
Honestly such a mistake to not have Sgt. Johnson man. One of the first things I thought from the start! But nooooo
"You can't pick up chicks in a tank!"
"I take it back you can totally pick up chicks in a tank" -Lanvnius Tucker
Writers: "We have to take his helmet off so he can show emotion."
5 episodes later: the actor shows the most emotion he has through the whole series WHILE HIS HELMET IS ON!!!
" Ironic, isn't it?"
@@wwyd4akb The very character you're referencing wasn't even a living being, and was designed to only display a single emotion, and yet he had more character and personality than basically anyone in this show
@@filmandfirearms who do you think I'm referencing?
That "gun grease seeping into ur brain and making u ask dumbass questions" was beautiful. He spoke for the entire fanbase right there
Fun fact! Jackal Zealots are a thing, *but* They use cutlasses made from the same Blamite Chrystal as the Needler. And you can find Jackals using plasma rifles, in Halo 2, 3, and Reach. But they're only the Majors.
you can also give grunts plasma rifles if n H2.
Ahhh man that would have been cooler
Cortana has told off Chief in CE for being naiive and almost firing the ring. But that's obviously justified, and not really Chief's fault.
Yeah and she was extremely frustrated that she couldn’t communicate that for 12 hours. When 50 seconds for her is like an eternity
But that also had competent writers lmao.
Left out that little detail did he?
"Halo isn't a cudgel you barbarian!" Or something to that effect.
Hats off to you guys for suffering through this series so we don’t have to
Amen!
The two guys leave the show and this was what one of them said:
"And if, when, there's a second season, I'm going to take a step back and consult and be available for the new people. We’ll have a new team come in with some fresh eyes to pick up where I left off, which I think is kind of great for the show. Just to keep bringing in new people. It's such a big world that it takes 10 times more work and energy than any normal show."
Constantly bringing in new people and getting rid of people has never helped modern shows. Usually, it's a sign that things are very, very wrong. The sequel trilogy of Star Wars is a prime example of this.
I'm with Oz. Nothing will beat the original Halo trilogy. Halo CE took inspiration from the best of 1980s-1990s sci-fi like Aliens and Starship Troopers. By Halo 2 the story took on its own clear identity. At that point we had never seen an original FPS with so much great world building.
343 Halo was made by people who thought the original Halo series was weak on story and needed to be reformatted around other popular FPS tiltes. That's why 4-5 took such a radical shift. And yet even THAT garbage is somehow better than this show
Halo 4's story was Amazing. Halo 5 was Garbage.
I feel like you guys have saved all of us a lot of pain. I tried to make it through the first episode and couldn’t.
From the reviews I watched, the showrunners really put the "soap" into "space opera".
you're missing out there, I love watching the show just to laugh at it and then I watch these guys, and LAUGH EVEN MORE. LOL. It's halo the comedy. It's so bad it's funny. It's so deliciously bad.
I find it interesting to watch the show first and then watch these reviews later, because there's so much bad stuff that some of it flies over your head and you then watch these reviews where they point it out. This is possibly the worst TV show I've ever seen.
@@gaiusmarius7562 exactly, it's too good not to watch these guys now. It's funny to laugh at their mistakes.
You know what I would love? If this season ends with Kwan securing independence for Madrigal, right before it gets glassed.
We did it guys, we saved Madrigal!
@@teamozOFFICIAL Energy projectors, glassing beams, and plasma lances: allow us to introduce ourselves
"We just watched Halo episode 5"
I'm sorry to hear that.
Hope its not contagious 😕
My condolence
As far as women in frontline combat are concerned, I've read that in trials, a mixed 5-man squad with 1 woman has a 30% performance penalty compared to a traditional 5-man squad. That would imply that substituting 1 woman for a man in a squad is worse than just removing the man from the squad (20% loss).
heard that too, what's the source? Isn't it some WW2 or Naum study?
They need to make a study on 4 women and 1 man and see if the squad is better or worse.
@@robertagren9360 I believe the Soviets found that 100% female squads was a more efficient use of personnel than mixed squads.
USMC combat arms found that out too, but they don't want you to know that.
@@robertagren9360 I volunteer
10:00 "I'll just bury myself again"
For some reason that made me laugh hard. And I'm lucky, I just finished drinking seconds before. That would have been a mess.
A maguffin is something that drives the plot, but is never used. Once the thing is used in the story, it stops being a maguffin. Shad’s right about this one.
I think they both have it somewhat right, and it depends on the exact definition used.
Common definition is more like the arbitrary thing that drives character motivations. The blue diamond from Titanic is a good example in that sense, but it can have a use besides, such as the Enigma machine in U571.
Depending on definition, some consider Ryan from Saving Private Ryan to be a Macguffin, or the Horcruxs from Harry Potter. Both of those technically do something, but their primary story purpose is just to drive characters from one point in the story to another
@@apollohateshisdayjob9606 as I understand it, a maguffin can have a use, as long as the use never affects the plot. Like the soul stone from infinity war. It has powers, but it’s powers never factor into the story.
@@SilverfishStoneInMeadow Yeah the mcmuffin in the failo show does actually directly impact the environment, with the emp blast and everything.
Oz chief does fall from space or low atmosphere at the beginning of halo 3 when his suit locks itself to protect hi. se there is precedent to him surviving stuff like that but it takes a lot for him to recover. just a small observation, great content, keep it up guys
also don't get why you dislike reach and 3 odst so much, for me they are on par with ce, 2 and 3 and they have many of some of the best moments in the series. the switch in perspectives is great and the stories of both games are well done and very engaging. gameplay has some misses in reach but its honestly still very much fun and very halo. plus the new vehicles, covenant structures and enemies in reach make for some very good lore
@@cotc4x153 I think in this case it is a subjective thing. H1 and H2 are “campy halo” which is different from Reach, H4, H5 and this show.
I agree that H3, ODST, reach, all had serious elements and pulled it off well. But some people like the less serious halo better, and a lot of the serious halo narrative and lore has been tainted by bad decisions by 343 and others.
And I’m not a bungie fanboy, Destiny’s story is a bunch of sci fi gobbledegook with almost no character development, similar to the more recent halo games and stories.
He fell from space but he was on/within some other rubble remember? You find a big chunk of something in another crater really close to him, and he splits off of a different meteor of some sort in the beginning cutscene.
@@photosyntheticzee9915 agree with you there are definitely those who prefer a more lighthearted tone. But from a universe standpoint reach and odst work and compliment the story from the previous games. Plus the humor in the original halo's, maybe unintendidly so, stands, from a storytelling perspective, as a defience of humans in front of unsormountable odds and a belief to never give up, which thematically, reach and odst also represent quite well. Plus CE and 2 also had their very serious parts with CE's sudden horror twist at the end of the game and 2's tragic story of the arbiter, full of betrayal and trials that challanged his own belief system. There is definitely a larger focus on humor in CE, 2 and 3 but overall the 5 games bungie made match thematically and represent a unified, well... universe, something that 343 and as you said, destiny, lack. My point wasn't that reach or odst are better or worse than CE, 2, 3; i just don't like seeing them dismissed because i fricking love them. Thx for the nice response
@@cotc4x153 Honestly the problems I find with Reach have little to do with tone and more to do with continuity and retconning. Many key aspects of the books were disregarded for points that tried to do similar things in less effective ways.
Even the action is just dumb. The banshee scene especially, chief isn't a god, if he was traveling that fast towards the ground/phantom he would still come very close to death if not just for. It would have been WAY cooler if he actually hyjacked it and shot it down. Same scene technically, but way less stupid.
For a brick he flew pretty good
That was his Vin Diesel scene. I want someone to edit Vin Diesel chief face cam shots then cutting to him holding onto a Dodge Charger before he hits the Phantom.
He actually did that at the beginning of 3
His armor locked up, and he was stuck until the tutorial technician helped him
@@joesmutz9287 yes I remember it well, very important differences though, for one, he wasn't landing in the middle of a battlefield.
9:02 “taser powerful enough to knock out a Spartan” maybe if Soren had his helmet on. If not his Spartan helmet, not even the goofy helmet he wasn’t wearing. This show is showing you how important it is to keep your helmet on. Chief is gonna get killed by a makee knife to the knoggin.
Just the fact that MJOLNIR is mostly conductive metal on the outside should make getting "tazed" basically impossible.
If only. Then the one semi recognizable character gets lost and they lose all nostalgia credit
If you didn't know, covering yourself completely in metal actually protects you from electrocution. It's why Faraday cages work and protect you from high current electricity. It's why you're generally safe in your car when it's struck by lightning (not the rubber, that's a common misconception). It's why line-men wear steel suits when working on power lines.
Makee isn't going to even try to kill Chief, she's on her own journey.. It's crazy to me how many people can't pick up on obvious foreshadowing and basic aspects of story telling.
I can’t help but think that a large portion of the shows budget is going straight into someone’s pocket, to most likely be spent on hookers and cocaine knowing Hollywood haha, cheers fellas, I love how you’re all just in a constant state of disbelief, very relatable
The only good thing coming out of this show (for me) is that I realized how much I love Halo. I've never played before the show being released but it was so bad that I thought "ok, wtf, is the game this bad?" and...no. It isn't. It's fuckin awesome and I'm loving Halo 2 as I'm slowly playing trough it.
19:15 I think the Doctor Who ep is called "Everybody Lives", is one from the first season. It has one of my favorites lines in the show: "Everybody lives Rose. Just this once, EVERYBODY LIVES!" so freking good
Technically the episode name is "The Doctor Dances" But yes, totally! I miss when Doctor Who was good! I actually liked Christopher Eccleston's Doctor.
@@Good_Emperor yeah I really wanted more seasons with him
@@Good_Emperor He was certainly good, and the series never would've been restarted if it weren't for him, but I think David Tennant and Matt Smith were both significantly better than Christopher Eccleston. It's not really a mark against Eccleston either. Remember, Doctor Who had been off the air for a really long time when he came on, and by the end, the team had a much better idea of how to make proper Doctor Who and made better choices the next time around with David Tennant
How did soren not hear her sneak up on him?? Does he not have enhanced hearing???
I am pretty sure the spartans enhancements in this silver timeline is Enhanced Mental Handicapment.
@@_NutcasE_ 😂😂😂🤣
Watching this episode I definitely cemented the opinion that these writers aren’t trying to do anything by design they’re just bad writers.
I mean it was the moment Chief was screaming while punching an Elite like he was Pattinsons Batman on venom, it was in that moment I realized:”Oh these writers just didn’t elevate their writing ability past their high school phase.”
All of this just reeks of people who have these ideas but not much training in the writing field
They're from the litter of writers who think of themselves as political activists and think the DECONSTRUCTION of characters (being mopy, emotional, traumatized) is the greatest, coolest and most ORIGINAL writing there is. They put their ideas in such pedestal, everyone who disagrees is a HATER, needs to be canceled, not true fans, etc. South Park brilliantly described this kind of people as those who love the smell of their own farts.
Shades of Neon Genesis Evsngelion berserker mode. Also every character acts like they are high school level maturity.
Can confirm. This is “fresh out of uni” writing.
We should clip all the the dumb parts of the show into one episode,add a laugh track, and make it into the parody that it is.
The problem is that would instantly get nuked by copyright, since that compilation would need to include the entire show
28:55 You know you're right. I didn't realize it at the time, but they delayed getting the artifact to the ship for no reason. When the covenant arrive and we finally have a sense of urgency, all that prep goes out the window. They literally just have the spartans and marines carry it out and load it on a warthog.
Shad, would you ever be interested at looking looking into the various melee weapons of the Sangheili (elites) and how they fight with them? The main weapons being the energy sword, energy dagger, curveblade, burnblade, energy stave and two handed energy sword used by Haka in halo legends?
I think he did make a weapon on the energy sword
@@tuukkai1841 He did, but I'd like it if he'd go into more of the surrounding (lore) aspects of its design the second time around. He talked about the blade being shaped the way it is as a badly designed sword catch, but it's that way more to mimic their religious and traditional symbols more than function; and the handle is the way it is to suit Elite physiology and fighting style, not human.
@@dotz5241 His channel is not focused on Halo dude. He made on analysis on the energy blade, I think it's pretty good, but if you want someone to talk about the lore just find a Halo focused channel.
@@Drakimov pretty sure thats apparent. My point is that if he bothers looking at the energy sword again he should take into account other factors that affect it's design. He already did one just looking at it as if it were a real fighting implement, so why bother with the rehash. Looking at cultural factors in weapon design is more scholagladiatoria anyways.
So thankful that you guys are doing these reviews and talking about this stuff. My other source on this series is Arch with his ArchCast channel with Kibs. But seriously. I've played most of the Halo games and its thanks to Oz that the gulf between Bungie and 343 on the lore of Halo is even more stark to me. I never dived into any of the lore of Halo like I did with 40K. So I've been reliant on others to tell me this sort of stuff but the more I'm learning from Oz in this series of yours. The more I'm looking at pop culture & hobbies and just going. "How far they have truly fallen." Cause 40K 9th Edition right is just. Well there is word that they are doing Space Marine Codex 2.0 for this Edition, to bring them up to scratch in this Edition. And they were one of the first codex's & armies to get updated. And with Chaos just over the Horizon or approaching it. It took me 5 battles with Space Marines to win 1 victory. And that's really only because the timer ran out. Otherwise. 9th Edition is broken!
(16:00) I'm an American armed forces service member for all you Aussies in the comments. American military members allow Females to sign up for direct combat roles. Fighter pilots being a prime example. Female pilots fly and fight just as well as male pilots. However roles like Infantry and Special operations are where we see the main problem. Modern Infantry men are pushed to the extreme and operate in the most inhospitable environments in laymen's terms. It's fucking hard. 90% of American MEN couldn't deal with the mental and physical stresses of modern ground combat. It's not impossible and it has been done. But it's not the rule.
This, it’s a long-held myth that’s been debunked and misrepresented.
We (Australian Defense Force) allow women in direct combat roles and see no disparaging effectiveness and it’s on account of our training doctrine. Even then though there’s still plenty of “ew girls are icky” guys in the ADF.
The female in battle is bs. If she supposedly had years of training. That should have kicked in as a minimum. Muscle memory is a thing. And that should push her to continue.
State based memory would have her fighting because there's a battle on. In crisis situations the brain can and does fall back on previous examples of the same or similar scenarios. She's armored up. She had a gun. There are aliens. The brain would've gone *ding!* "I know what happens now."
The only thing that would really change is the immediate aftermath. If she'd snapped once the bullets stopped flying, I'd understand. But during? Not a chance. Unless something in the environment put her into such a drastically different state (and no, emotions don't count) that her mind didn't have any frame of reference. In which case *all* the SPARTANs would be experiencing the same thing.
Pointless debate over Macguffins starts
Nathan turns to the camera, waves his hands dramatically, and shrugs
That was just..perfect
I agree with Oz though. A macguffin is just what drives the plot. You can't drive the plot without effecting it
@@dram3711 If you can swap out the item in question with a rubber sock, and the plot doesn't change, that's when it's a Macguffin
Most plot devices are important because the plot requires it specifically. It does something specific that causes plot to happen
But the Macguffin is specific because...well it's not specific. It's identity doesn't matter, and if you took it out and replaced it with something completely random, then the plot doesn't change
This is why it's so often used in "I want it" plots. The point of the plot isn't to use the item, just to acquire it, which means the identity of the item is unimportant. For example, many spy thrillers have some big bad weapon that was stolen and needs recovering. As long as it isn't used, changing it out with a sock changes the stakes, but it doesn't change a single event within
@@joesmutz9287 I would disagree, they only do nothing in the examples because the story doesn't follow the object for long enough. Take any treasure hunting movie and the plot device acts as a Macguffin until the very end when it opens are door or reflects some light or something.
Are we to say that it is a plot device as is but cutting the last 5 minutes of the movies and not it is a Macguffin? Seems absurd to define the object in a way that flip flops like that.
And we can't say that the Macguffin not being used doesn't effect the story. Sure the big bad bioweapon may not be fired, but because of the stages it sets the main character might choice to sacrifice his life to get it. Swapping it out would change the stakes and not maybe the main character hesitates to ask something like "is this worth it? It will only kill 10 people after all".
@@viperstriker4728 That last paragraph is the point
While it may affect character motivations and how they're perceived, what defines a macguffin is the fact that it doesn't affect the narrative directly. If the characters made the same choices, would the scenario play out the same
In the classic case of the bioweapon, replacing it with a sock would make the characters look silly if they chased it with the same alacrity, but if they were to, then no events in the story would change
Affecting the characters, and causing the plot to change indirectly is a trait of all plot devices. The macguffin is special because it doesn't affect the plot directly
How long it does what it does is irrelevant to the definition, as it is rather binary. Either it's change alters the events of the story directly, or it doesn't.
@@joesmutz9287 "replacing it with a sock would make the characters look silly if they chased it with the same alacrity" Sure the plot events don't change, but the entire tone of the series changed, which will in turn change the expectations that the audience has for the plot. It is possible to tell 2 completely different stories with all the same facts, the movie Vantage Point does this very well and literally gets you to watch the same "plot" like 5 times but never feels repetitive because of what the difference in perspective, which is much is a much smaller change then tone.
Words are given meaning simply for being useful in communicating ideas. And saying that the object is a Magoffin right until then end when it is finally used, then switching to it was never a Magoffin doesn't seem useful in anyway. Unless your saying that Magoffin isn't a description of what object is, but rather how the object is acting in that moment? That would make sense.
I'm glad you guys can still see the absolute shitfest this show is and not be idiots thinking it's suddenly good just because of some mindless action.
Also I like the fact you liked and mentioned my FAILO comment, I'm glade you liked it, thanks and again good job Shad'n Co.
Do not skip CE. Halo 2 is a massive improvement in storytelling, but that's it.
It can't keep his attention he tried playing it and it was too slow. Stop sabotaging this for me you monster!
Love that Nathan just sits and smiles when oz and shad get “arguing”
The only reason I'm 59 minutes late to this was because I was appreciating your Baahubali video
Technically the sound also plays when your shields are really low, BUT when it switches to the interior helmet view of the blond Spartan you can see her shields are almost at max so either way they've stuffed up lol. Also if you count the amount of times she gets shot it looks like her shields are stronger than on Easy difficulty.
52:00 Guys, McGuffins are a social construct. McGuffins and plot devices are a spectrum. Identify them however you feel fits YOUR truth.
everything is a social construct?
I'd be interested in seeing a reaction video of Shad seeing all the live action shorts. The ODST one is my personal fave. Wild how shorts made as tests or for marketing ten years ago are better quality than a $100m series....
from what I'm hearing about "sentient artifacts", it sounds like they're(poorly) trying to shoehorn the bits of 343's run in Halo with the Promethean "digitalized humans" and somehow doing even worse with the plot.
no explanation for the "Forcegasm" space magic other than whoever is in charge Nutting over their "hate fic" interpretations and writing it in to be creepy
I suppose the Harry Potter lemon writers grew up and now have show writing jobs. These are the kind of writers that create titles like "Space Velociraptor Sex".
@@ctrlaltdebug 🤣😓 its funny and sad how accurate that seems
Indian Arbiter had me busting a gut and my wife looking at me like I was a lunatic.
Nathan's face in the beginning is my soul the past decade. Never going to ever experience the Bugie Era of Halo or because I wasn't allowed to ( too young ). Nor am I going to ever experience anything like it. SMH
Well, bungie decided they want to do something different and gave up halo. Bungie is responsible for Destiny and Destiny 2 and from what I've heard it's not good. I'm just not sure Bungie would have done better if they stayed with Halo or came back.
Thanks for the video..one thing about these 'bad/progressive' shows... your reviews about them are super enterntaining. Watching Ozz slowly die inside...comments and banter all top notch..thanks for watching so I dont have to.
Been waiting (not) so patiently for this 🔥, if I had only 1 wish it would be that these weekly reviews get put out sooner but I understand the work & effort put into to editing so I just want to say I'm greatful 🙌
The closest Cortana comes to insulting chief in the games is at the start of Two Betrayals, where she chastises him for helping Guilty Spark without knowing that halo was designed to kill off all sentient life.
That was warranted though
Writers: "That scene from Dune where everyone comes out of the sand is pretty cool..."
Other Writers: "Write that down! Write that down!"
Other Other Writers: *insert Patrick playing Tic Tac Toe here
I don't know about you guys, but I love Failo: A Dune Wars story!
Firstly, Dr. Hershey is such a great villain to show how eviI the government/military!
Also, can't get enough of Joan (aka: Master Cheeks) and Katana, though my favorite character has to be the Asian lady w/ the bowl haircut. I relate to her so much, since I also solve most of my problems by howling like a banshee and hitting things.
Totally shipping girl-spartan w/ Covenant lady.
Finally, Dr. Hershey is so heroically inspirational! We need more women in stem.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go Tweet about how strong and progressive the show is, whiIe I continue to pirate it/borrow someone else's account to watch it.
This is not out master chief. So when cortana disrespects him, she’s treating him how we see him.
mister cheeks
How to wrap up Kwan's arc, in a believable way.
Kwan starts a civil war, drawing military assets from orbit, back down to the planet.
The Covenant show up, and quickly defeat all UNSC ships in orbit due to their weakened state.
While divided on the ground no one is even able to call for help before the Covenant glass all communication arrays.
We end the scene seeing Kwan watching liquid plasma rain from the sky, before she's consumed.
It would be a great way to wrap up all the awful choices Kwan has made, and reset the Covenant as the bad guys in one scene.
If the writers had actually played the games they would realize there's a reason the Covenant faction ISN'T portrayed sympathetically until the second game with the Elites.
The entire premise of Halo CE & Reach is that the Covenant vastly outnumber humanity and have more advanced tech & for some reason beyond our comprehensive they want us dead.
Vannik did have a great line i agree.
The battle scene was done well and was enjoyable however the issue i had was the setup…this stupid “blessed one” touches the orgasm rock and somehow this tells her where they are….
Minutes of listening to kwan be a child and talk down to soren “oh look what you did!” Incredibly stupid lines dummy.. you are both trapped here and kwan seemed to give up on the rebellion thing at the end of the last episode and suddenly is back to her obsession.. the screaming was horrible
Kwans entire arc is pointless. The screaming reminded me of a tantrumming child I just saw at Target.
You guys should do a full play of the halo games that would be a ton of fun!
Don't forget that when the Neill Blomkamp/Peter Jackson movie was being talked about, drafts of a script were written by Alex Garland, who went on to write Dredd (2012), a story about a stoic action hero who wore a mask for the entire movie...
Instead we got Kyle Killen, who worked on 3 tv shows that got immediately cancelled, and the Netflix live action Death Note 🤦🏻♂️
Bro your channel is a monument to the golden days of Halo 3 UA-cam..
@@teamozOFFICIAL haha, yeah. Making crappy music videos with random songs in Windows Movie Maker, those were the days man 😅
I loved Oz's short impression of Hiddenxperia. That dude is ridiculous. His videos are more about picking Halo kernels out of the heaping dung heap that is the show. Then talking about what good things he HOPES are coming next episode, next season, etc. 7.5/10.
Bless the Knights Watch for still watching this to let us know how bad this crap is. I stopped after episode 3, I'd compare watching Halo to Medieval rat torture.
Deuterium and tritium are the isotopes of hydrogen that have the most likely hood of fusing “easily”, if they are using fusion, they would be mining tritium too, and you would think that they would have developed in 500 years better fusion fuels because they would be able to do harder to fuse materials. The only reason we do tritium and deuterium is because its the easiest we have found to fuse.
As far as I know Tritium is more rare as an isotope and has a shorter half-life so maybe not as ideal as a fuel. Also can't Tritium be refined with nuclear processing? Also if they wanted to make fusion fuel something a little more rare (or difficult to mine and not just extracted from water) they'd be using Helium-3 as that's only naturally occurring in abundance on worlds with no atmospher that relieve frequent stellar wind or gas giants.
The writers of this show is unlikely to have any understanding of nuclear physics. They probably just thought deuterium was a fancy sci-fi metal and heavy hydrogen was something fictional.
as stupid as it is, the banshee part is actually lore accurate. All Spartans are very much capable of doing that. Spartans can survive a fall from orbit because the suits has the ability to lock armor which reinforces it. Still hurts like a B and can also knock them out. We see this in halo 3 and halo reach
Masterchief didn't simply fall into orbit, he tore a piece of the Forerunner ship that Truth was using to shield him from reentry. With Reach we don't see Noble 6 falling through Reach's atmosphere, it just cuts to everything being EMP'd by the explosion and then cuts to Noble 6 walking towards the camera. We can just assume that he in fact did fall towards Reach but it was never specified.
@@OmegaF77 oh yeah, I had completely forgot about the piece of metal he held on to. Still, with N6, it's implied he fell without anything to hold onto.
Oz is very wrong about one thing in particular: Do NOT skip Halo CE. The first game is foundational and awesome, and the gameplay holds up magnificently.
15:52 in the US, there are women in frontline infantry. My unit was one of the first units to get female infantry
I remember a student who I met during my years at uni who told me about her sister serving in Afghanistan and shooting people.
As long as they can hoist up a someone on their shoulders and drag em to safety.
@@Fuzzycat16 That's why we have basic training
And the studies done showed that the units with females underperformed in every metric.
Yes....More. Love it. MY next recommend video has Shad beardless in the thumbnail. lol
To be fair, Bungie themselves were unsure if they wanted to make Humanity direct descendants of the Forerunners or not. They constantly flipped on this in Halo 3, which resulted in Truth's really strange personality flip between 2 and 3.
You can levy a lot of criticism at 343, but I don't think its fair to blame them for this.
Erm, 343i made it so that the Forerunners were no longer a mystery. The reason Bungie were hesitant on making them as ancient humans was because they wanted the Forerunners to be a mysterious ancient race that went completely extinct.
@@OmegaF77 Having read the Forerunner Saga (1st and 3rd books were great), I can safely say that it was worth sacrificing the mystery. Tho in the games they didn't do it so well.
With talented writers, you could go either way, it doesn't really matter.
Bungie flipped alot. Im still mad at them for rewriting fall or reach just so they could shoehorn in some fan-favourites.
@@SuperAerie I think they made some minor edits rather than major retcons. Its a 20 year old book after all.
Still an amazing read anyways.
@@JJ-cx6ro The entire invasion is depicted different. Along with the whereabouts of cortana, PoA, Halsey & the spartan 3s. So not minor in the slightest.
(around 10 year old book at that point btw)
*MacGuffin:* an object, event, or character in a film or story that serves to set and keep the plot in motion despite usually lacking intrinsic importance.
"Lacking intrinsic importance"
Basically, it can't affect any of the characters. If the thing can affect any of the characters, then it's a plot device, not a MacGuffin.
So by the definition, like the elder wand from harry potter (even if a movie was dedicated to getting it) isn't because you would be more powerful wielding it. Same with the one ring, nd the infinity stones. But a key could be. Like the headpiece to the staff of ra in raiders of the lost arc I believe.
You know what's funny. I'll watch the 90s Mario movie over the Failo show. And that movie was bad, but more enjoyable than Failo
Former active duty US Marine, we had several females in one of our infantry companies. The Marine Corps began integrating infantry in 2018 or so Oz
And according to USMC Studys it was and is a bad Idea
Oz keeps saying "Bring back Joe Staten" but the man is busy trying to fix the mess of a story 343 backed themselves into with Halo 5. The fact that Halo: Infinite campaign is tolerable storywise is probably because of him doing the best with what 343 had already made.
He already has his hands full dealing with the creative direction of the games to even try and tackle the TV show at the same time. Have mercy on him Oz.
I will say, though, that I agree with Oz that they should have tried to adapt Contact Harvest. It has everything they need to introduce the Halo universe. What the situation was before the war (where they can show humans to be a horrible species as the war against the Insurrectionist was brutal as hell on both sides (the UNSC openly exercises executions of their own men for offenses like desertion or just summary executions of insurrectionist, it was brutal)). It introduces the Covenant, what they are, how they think and what they are after, and showing that a few misunderstandings and deliberate manipulation on the part of the Prophets makes the war start.
Halo on TV or film should have never done any story that involved Master Chief or any character from the games, except as cameo characters.
Either adapt one of the many books, or make a completely original main character and show their journey as they try to survive the war.
The fan film of Helljumpers showed how excellent an idea that was.
In the fictional universe of Halo, the female Spartans were trained from the age of 6 and rigorously trained and eventually genetically modified. In that scenario then sure women could be in front line combat. In real life however, direct combat roles for women is more often a liability than not.
And it's not just because of the fact women are usually weaker than the men
It's hardwired in men to protect women
So if something happens to a female squad member or the team gets captured and something happens the men in the squad might do something stupid and get themselves killed or injured trying to save her
@@uglystupidloser Yeah I've also served in the military and seen some incredible females. One of my best friends was selected for our marksman competition team. I also don't doubt there are some exceptional females out there that could potentially outperform men in combat. But on average women are simply not as capable in front line roles for multiple reasons.
@@uglystupidloser I'm not saying women can't fight there's many times in history they have and do a good job
there's alot of reasons why they shouldn't fight and haven't been a main part of militaries in the past unless the country in question is just desperate like the soviets in WW2 or are too small and need all hands on deck like Isreal
They are smaller weaker slower in general sports proves that none of their records even approach men's best records except in shooting
I will admit they can make great marksman the soviets had a ton of women snipers and they did a great job
And that's one of the most important things for a soldier but it not everything
@@uglystupidloser the Soviets found women performed well as snipers, tank drivers, and pilots. However their performance as hold the line/not one step back grunts was abysmal.
How did Kwan manage to so completely cover herself with sand without assistance....it's literally impossible.
While you see the writers were watching someone playing modded starcraft and thought it was a Halo wars game. But because they don't play the game they didn't realize that the game was modded, so they thought the terrans could actually bury like zurg.
I find this explanation to be far more believable then they somehow thought the scene made sense.
I'm going to correct something you've said:
In Bungie cannon, humans were never meant to be the same species as the forerunners.
During the development of Halo 2 the lead writer Joseph Staten had storyboarded at one point to have a reveal on earth where the Arbiter would find the tomb of a Forerunner, and upon opening it would reveal that it was a human skeleton, indicating that humans were forerunners.
However he later decided to scrap this idea and go with the story that was later expanded upon in the books, of human's being a separate species.
this would allow the forerunners to retain thir mystery and the alienness of thir history and architecture.
later on during the development of Halo 3 Joseph Staten took a long sabbatical in the middle of the games development, leaving much of the plot design for the game up to Marty O'Donnell and the other Bungie dev's.
Marty was of the opinion that the "humans are forerunners" idea was a good one and not fully realizing that Joseph had already written off the idea decided to add it into the game as a major plot point for the end of the game.
Both Marty and Joseph have since stated that the line is not supposed to be taken as direct cannon, Joseph saying that for the sake of lore continuity it can be understood as a metaphorical statement by Guilty Spark, saying that humans are the "forerunners" of thir age and the true inheritors of the forerunners legacy and power.
so from a official stand point, no humans aren't forerunners, but they are still massively important to the story.
Just wanted to clear that up because you keep mentioning it.
Human beings as a species actually being the literal forerunners of the Galactic civilation 100,000 years ago has a lot of problems. It causes continuity errors, and just general questions of how? Why? If humans had a galaxy spanning civilization 100,000 years ago then why isn't there archeological evidence to support this? If humans had super advanced tech in the past then why did human tech devolve to the stone-age? Humans being forerunners just doesn't jive with established knowledge on human evolution and history.
This is all bullshit. Show me your evidence.
@@teamozOFFICIAL I don't know anything about this conversation inside the development team. I'm just going by what's in the games and there's nothing explicit in the games or the expanded lore that I'm aware of that explicitly states that the forerunners were biologically of the same species as humans. And regarding luminaries reading humans as forerunners: Couldn't this be explained by forerunners building their technology to be bio-identity locked so only members of a particular species would be considered valid users? Since humanity was chosen to inherit their technology said technology would then read humans as "forerunner".
According to the joke Alfred Hitchcock referenced the item in the package described initially as a MacGuffin was not a MacGuffin. Eg "What is in your od package?" "A MacGuffin." Long story describing a MacGuffin as a Tiger hunting device or creature for hunting Scottish Highland tigers. After much discussion and the proof that there are no Scottish tigers the punch line is "It mustn't be a MacGuffin then.". For this reason neither the "package" nor that contained within is the MacGuffin.
A way to reset it season 2 could be Master Chuef waking up from Criosleep from a nightmare or something like that. Season 1 could just have been a nightmare
Let's not forget that Kyle Killen was brought on to rewrite Netflix's Deathnote........
The problem with the covenant is that they don't speak English. The moment when Master Cheeks jumps on the car and shoots the grunt, definitely should have had a quipy joke by the the grunt.
Needs more "die, devil" and "run away, run away!"
“You are all.. verminnn..” one of the most memorable villain scripts in gaming history. Chilling. We’ll never get anything like that man.
I do believe it's written intentionally bad. There's so much incompetence here it is impossible for it to not be malice.
I wouldn't say impossible. But it is bad enough that the benefit of the doubt is actually malice. At least that way they are good at being evil. Which is much nicer to say then they are just that stupid.
A macguffin doesn't have to be seen or be unknown to be a macguffin, it has to affect the ot merely by its existence, not having a defined function outside of that. Usually its something people want, but what it does is left ambiguous.
Oz it right about the Macguffin. If it had actual, definite powers or relevance that acted on the plot, it would start to get more complicated.
Curtana, also known as the Sword of Mercy, is a ceremonial sword used at the coronation of British kings and queens. One of the Crown Jewels of the United Kingdom, its end is blunt and squared to symbolize mercy.... also said to have been that sword of Tristan and in the legends of Charlemagne's Paladins, the Paladin Ogier the Dane (Holger Danske on danish) inherited the sword and called it Cortain (short sword).
Without the Identity Crisis and the Rebel girl sub plot and more action, it would've been an okay show. I actually like cortana except for the body snatching thing😅
To be fair, Spartans are capable of surviving orbital re-entry with just their armor in bungee halo.
It's funny that when you guys describe him steering the banshee by hanging from it (and for the whole fight scene in general) I can only picture cheeks doing it with his helmet off. I can't even imagine this guy with his helmet on anymore.
We need a Knights Watch episode with Shad, Oz, and Nathan playing Halo.
season two Comes around.
random soldier wakes up: "man, I had the dumbest fucking dream..." goes on patrol gets shot during the first contact invasion.
SJW weapon of choice is a rock, confirmed. Reeeing is their special power that turns them into a Mary Sue, temporarily (hopefully).
Dr. Who episode name: The Empty Child (parts 1 & 2) Cortana is WW84 all over again.
The classic McGuffin was the Maltese Falcon. It does not actually serve any purpose to the plot, except to drive it.
I was looking forward to this
Basically this show is Fantasy Drama instead of Sci-fi Action Thriller.... it's tragic
Female solder can't stand combat without a emotion inhibiter chip................ BAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEDDDDD
I'm just so happy that Oz noticed me!
I can't for the life of me figure out why they made a MASSIVE change by making Cortana be in his brain rather than in the suit.
It also doesn't make sense at all.
Anyone else find it odd that the entitled girl is STILL dressed in the same bloodied clothes she wore at the ep. 1 massacre? She's had multiple days and several opportunities to at least try to clean some of the blood off... Or maybe even get some new clothes at the "rebel rockpile", whilst in the care of the stylish recluse? Most women I know wouldn't go for near a week wearing bloody, dirty clothes. Maybe they've been washed, but stil.... Or the budget was just gone once it came to her wardrobe (probably went to the fancy Gestapo-coats).
Just one thing about 9:10 ish.
Also a bit of a disclaimer: I’m not an expert and I’ve never used a taser, this was just some things I learnt about them while researching for some writing of my own.
“A taser that can take out a Spartan would be lethal to a human being”
Well… not really. Most tasers are high voltage (1000V) and very low amperage (1mA). Usually it is current that kills someone when it comes to electricity, so tasers are designed specifically to use low current. When the current does go through the person, though, it interferes with the nervous system with pulses that make it impossible to move them properly.
I haven’t seen the show so I’m not sure if it was a short range or a long range taser, but both work on the same principle. Of course that being said tasers don’t always work, especially if both prongs don’t make good contact. And that’s a longer range taser, I can’t imagine a short range taser would be any better since you have to get closer to the presumably 7 foot tall and ill-be heaving genetic superhuman that you’d like to subdue. Both ideas are stupid if the tool was supposed to be “anti-Spartan”.
TLDR the way tasers work wouldn’t likely kill a smaller human, even if it was made to subdue a Spartan (which I don’t think you’d have to do in the first place). Oh and using tasers on a Spartan is a dumb idea.
They're going to toss in hidden forerunner A.I. as the reasons that only Cheeks and the girl are "The Chosen".
That or stupidly connect it to their childhood trauma.
51:00 About McGuffins,
I think the simplest test is ask, "Why couldn't they just X the Y?" We know so little about the briefcase in Pulp Fiction that we can't wonder how the characters might even possibly interact with it. They just want to get it and nothing else. As opposed to The One Ring, which we know the characters are capable of making choices to use it, that is, Frodo using it to get invisible and hide from Boromir, or those times that Frodo uses it and is "seen" by Sauron. We can ask questions about "Could Frodo use the One Ring to let Sauron know where he is?", for example, say Frodo knew about Pellenor Fields and wanted to distract Sauron momentarily. Or maybe we can talk about the risk-reward of Frodo using it to hide from enemies. The Pulp Fiction briefcase not only does nothing, but we also can't wonder what could have been done with it. It has no actual function within the plot other than that source of motivations that it is.
The Halo Toilet thing isn't a McGuffin because characters can choose to do things with it. Different people could try touching it.
Would would love to see Shad react to the whole Halo Landfall video.
Well about the Jackals, they weren't using Energy Swords. I think they were using Energy Daggers, which are wrist mounted (and I think they were also wrist mounted in the episode) which was introduced in Halo: Reach. They also used Energy Cutlasses in Contact Harvest that were made/powered by Blamite Crystals strictly for close-quarter skirmishes (and honestly would have suited Skirmishers from Halo Reach more, which are the nastier Female versions of Jackals). I think the episode based it off of those two things.
Aye however the design and shape looked exactly like the shangelli(elites) energy swords. I was expecting like a cutlass or a dagger since the jackals culture was like well, pirates?
Yeah. I didn't have an issue with Jackals using energy swords. I think if the creators of the TV show hadn't been changing every thing we love about Halo already then people wouldn't have minded such a minor adjustment like Jackals using energy swords. That's such a little thing to get so upset about. TV and movie adaptations don't have to be carbon copies of the book or video game. But, again, if the Halo TV show had been honoring Halo canon more, they wouldn't have blinked an eye at the Jackals.
Yeah. I didn't have an issue with Jackals using energy swords... or daggers. I think if the creators of the TV show hadn't been changing every thing we love about Halo already then people wouldn't have minded such a minor adjustment like Jackals using energy swords. That's such a little thing to get so upset about. TV and movie adaptations don't have to be carbon copies of the book or video game. But, again, if the Halo TV show had been honoring Halo canon more, they wouldn't have blinked an eye at the Jackals.
I am just glad that I am not alone in seeing it as a thurd it is.
Keep in mind, the "Treasure in the center of a ancient temple chamber with a column of light shining down on it" has been a trope since Indiana Jones.
However that Trope is a load of stupid and would only work in a modern or futuristic setting where it's clearly an electric light shining down! Its a stupid trope when used in an ancient underground buried temple thats suposed to be hidden.
Funny thing is I was so pissed about this episode I decided to actually fill out and sign up for rotten tomatoes and the f****** website for the past 2 days has been "stuck in maintenance." 🤣🤣😂😂
In another comment section I wound up coming up with a theory based on something said in the vid about why the thing activates Pablo's memories, that being "the Mcguffin is a mini-composer and John's mom is composed within and trying to save him." I sincerely hope that is not the case though.
I love how you cant even be bothered to beep the cursing anymore... xD