@@danielcruz2256 it is much easier to be accurate with a rifle vs a handgun for most people. I'd definitely go out small game hunting with something like this over a pistol.
My favorite PCC is a Kalashnikov KR-9. Modeled after the Vityaz SMG. Bonus: the triangle stock folds onto the left side, so firing with the stock stowed is not an issue. It does use proprietary mags, though (30rd). But, what a vibe.
Yeah same here. An assault rifle is an actual thing. A select fire rifle, as you say. Any rifle that has the capability to fire in full auto and has a detachable magazine. The uneducated unfortunately don’t know what the term means and use it to demonize semiautomatic sporting rifles such as the AR-15. Or, as you say, they use the made up term assault weapon to describe anything semiautomatic, even something like a .22 handgun. It’s ridiculous. These same people are the ones making our gun laws.
I get sick of the whole "Assault Rifle" argument too. Because if you think about it, any "inanimate object" can be an "Assault Weapon". Anything from a Baseball bat, Golf club, Hockey stick, knife, (insert any blunt or edged object that can cause damage to flesh), to any motor vehicle. It's the act of assaulting another person; it doesn't matter what is being used. It should be the act and that of the person committing the act that is demonized, not the tool being used.
Unfortunately since the Far Left lobby can't sell an idea well with reason and logic, they must have emotions rule over the masses in order to establish a false sense of security to the citizens obeying laws. This is precisely why the Liberal agenda of disarmament will doom the country. The Elites maintain control, while the peasants will submit, be detained, and/or die by criminal hands.
I think intent of the original design is pretty obviously relevant, nobody has a problem with calling an G3 a battle rifle or whatever old bolt action a hunting rifle. I always just saw assault rifle as a term to differentiate between the generally older military rifles using full sized rifle rounds and the military rifles using intermediate rifle rounds. Maybe people think assault sounds more negative than battle but I have zero problem calling it an assault rifle (the ar15 not this 9mm version). Armalite didn't design it to shoot at targets and deer.
@@KrikZ32 well, you gotta realize that the very first firearm chambered in a intermediate-sized rifle cartridge and also could select fire between 1)safe, 2)semi, and 3)full was none other than the ingenuity of the Germans' design in 1943: the STG-44 or sometimes called the MP43/MP44 rifle. It literally translates as "Sturmgewher 44" in German to "Storm Rifle 44" in English. After WW2, the Soviets found the concept of a rifle capable of planned assault (by that I mean the soldiers' physical actions not the gun) on enemy positions by guerilla warfare tactics with the mixed capabilities of rifle and pistol calibers interesting. So, they developed their own take: the AK-47. Following the trend leads us up to today with numerous options of these rifles. HOWEVER, U.S. federal laws dictate that select-fire guns are to be heavily regulated to the citizens. Therefore if it was manufactured after 1985, it's a no-go on owning one. A select-fire rifles created before 1985 is possible to own, but extremely expensive and time consuming- with the Government always knowing who owns it, where it is, etc. Semi-automatic firearms have existed before select-fire guns in the early 1900's (obviously so each function exists to combine them both later), so they aren't restricted in the same way. And machine guns (restricted) were invented in the 1910's, just as WW1 was happening. We call these rifle versions "modern sporting rifles" and the rifles with more capabilities "service rifles" that no civilian can own if created after 1985.
@@kylevidetto1115 I do get the classification difference between military select fire and civilian semi auto models, that is definitely a real difference. And we do generally buy those rifles for sport shooting and the like so I really have no issue with that name for them either. I would say though, most people are buying them because it's as close to a military assault rifle as possible, and even if it's a semi-auto civilian version the original firearm and it's intent are apparent enough that it doesn't feel incorrect to me to still refer to them as assault rifles.
Ok, haters are going to hate on me for this, but yes I can appreciate a finely crafted wood & steel gun, especially if we are talking about American Black Walnut and a nice blued finish. This is true whether it's a classic lever gun, single action revolver, or a nice 1911. However, that is from a historical appreciation and fine craftsman perspective. I am anxiously waiting for Marlin to (re)release their 44 mag lever action in the cowboy version (not to mention Hickok's review of the classic version). However, I also understand that wood & steel were the best materials they had available at the time to make guns with back in the day, not the best materials we have available today. There are reasons modern military weapons aren't designed & built like that today. We can acknowledge the history & craftsmanship of wood & steel guns of yesteryear and also recognize the advances in material & design that have been made since then. I would think that within 12 to 18 months, the cases challenging the so called assault weapon and magazine capacity bans will have worked their way through the appeals courts to SCOTUS and we will no longer have to make choices base on furniture. Then all of us will be able to have our preference as to Modern vs Classic regardless of state.
3:20 I like this take, I've always hated the "5.56 is just the same as a .22" argument for a similar reason. You don't have to be dishonest to make the argument to own guns.
@@TerminxmanNFA of 1934 is all thanks to the unpopular Alcohol Prohibition amendment that has long been repealed (one of very few to have been done so), and the rise of violent crime related to all the bootlegging by capitalist Mafia gangsters that controlled vast numbers of industries related to everyday life. Don't forget it's the United States Federal government that set up the doomed failure of the 18th amendment that indirectly focused on machine guns (commonly used in turf wars, but highly expensive at the time of Great Depression) and its place in American society. Add the fact that portable machine guns developed just after WW1 (and one if the first times the public viewed the carnage machine guns contributed to) influenced the restricted policy to prevent collateral damages. It's sad to see the history of machine guns being heavily regulated goes back before anyone alive today. It's a different perception no longer understood in 21st century.
Great job John! The illinois governor has made that Homesteader illegal because of the removable mag and the threaded barrel. Other states follow his lead.
You bring up a great point about perception that anti gun people have. Without a doubt the lone wolf would be picked on and the homesteader , just a hunting rifle. We just have to hang on to our rights with everything we can and never let go. Thanks for the video.
My brother bought a m1600 in 22 cal over 35 years ago that looks just Like a vietnam era m16 rifle looking at it would would make the medea think its an Assault rifle but it only holds 10 rounds its a shame they have Criminalize the ownership of such plinkers thanks john for the video
For me, the primary appeal of the Henry is the low line of sight over bore angle - virtually no need for hold-over at close range. ARs almost always have at least 2 inches between line of sight and the bore at close range.
The people in power (a lot of them) understand the difference. All that matters is they are using the media/public opinion to achieve their goal of taxing and disarming us.
Fantastic, reminds me of The British Special Forces' L119A1,M16 Variant, which l watched yesterday on Forgotten Weapons. Ian also explains how the British government commissioned H & K of Germany, to redesign the UK bullpup L85 A1. H & K, in those days being owned by a British company.
Preach that thing my brother!!! Great, great analogy comparing those rifles! They both function in the same caliber but are judged by their looks! I would love to see a defense against that point! Man if you had a microphone You could have just dropped it right their and walked away! 🎤 Case closed!!!👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
If it came to buying a PCC, I wouldn't, really, because we have two M1 Carbines, leverguns in .32-20, .357, .44 & .45 with SA and/or DA revolvers to pair with all of them. I did trade off a balky rifle for an AR9 for the wife, and built an AR22 for a drill partner for my issue M4 and personal M5 (and yes, that works fine if you are focused on getting hits).
Any gun can kill in the hands of a criminal, it is the operators intent that the law should be dealing with, not the tools available to us, for any reason we choose. They are trying to fight crime before crime has happened, which has done NOTHING in NYC, Chicago, LA, Portland... etc That is not how a free society functions.🤦♂
Yes. And laws that state how behavior should be modeled in a society don't necessarily provide the results of expected outcomes. Normally, people would rather not draw attention to themselves, but for many complex reasons there will always be bad actors out there with irresponsible motives. No law can ever prevent it.
I’d prefer a hybrid of these two, with a few small changes. Keep the picrail free top, and non folding iron sights from the henry. Make the stock folding, shorten the barrel to 5.5”, move the magwell back a smidge to within the pistol grip, keep a removable upper like the ar, except it would be more like a slide, than an upper. Recoil operated. Just make it a little…no a lot more like a p320 or glock sitting in a flux raider, and a lot less like a full sized rifle shooting a wimpy pistol cartridge.
Well done John. Henry firearms continues to improve their products and choices among their own products and competition. The Henry Big Boy Steel in .38/357 was a significant move to show that they were not just about cosmetics (brass), but about functionality and reliability. The lever action .357 takes the dual carry of revolver and rifle to a new level of protection and capability, as would the .44-mag combination. A 9mm carbine adds some additional energy over a 4" pistol, however the increase is not significant IMO.
I think if I was shooting from the hip I would be bump firing. Tried that one time with a Wasr-10 and tore the crap out of my hand never did that again
I would argue that having a swept grip is more ergonomic for shooting from the hip. It puts your wrist in a better position for extended shooting & more accurate holds than any pistol grip could. 😊
Talking about counter intuitive, at least to me. If that is the case, why are modern rifles made with the pistol grip? Are they just all wrong, what am I missing? I have always had the theory that guns were originally designed with straight stocks (e.g. early lever guns & before) as it was cheaper and easier to manufacture. Then came the added complication and complexity of the swept or curved grips you see in later lever guns, bolt actions. This was better but required a more sophisticated manufacture process. Next came the pistol grips which are even more complicated to manufacture but better. Just a theory. Not sure about shooting from the hip though, not in my repertoire .
7:40 The only thing I can think of was the brief experiment with walking fire and the BAR during WWI, but the idea was abandoned before it ever saw combat because of how ridiculous it was.
First thing is that agent has been watching too many Rambo movies. Second thing is that the left doesn’t want to ban any one firearm they want to ban them all. Third thing is if you will talk to your dad he can show you how to hit those little red plates more often. Jk. Nice video and good shooting 👍👍. Thx for the video. That homesteader would be nice. 😊
in my opinion the classic henry homesteader is such a beautiful rifle, im going to get hate for this but ... AR platforms just look like your'e trying to play soldier
Don't get me wrong, I like the look of the Henry just fine, and I'm sure the lame mags are a concession to the unfree states, but for $900 it should come with the mag capacity to defend your family, the way S&W is doing with the FPC.
John's commentary at the 03:00 mark about the folly of, in effect, invoking the Milquetoast Middle's "assault rifle" framing in the very act of trying to defuse it, is precisely the lesson George Lakoff's work can teach 2A advocates. Familiarity with his more academic books has been sorely lacking in the 2A community, since until recently so few of us from the Left, where Lakoff and his theories on framing in rhetoric originate, were really getting much acknowledgement for our contributions on the pro-2A front. The time to come together and exchange ideas is now.
Surprising to hear people say the AR is points more naturally than a conventional rifle. They are top heavy and clunky to me as are all pistol grip guns. Yeah, once you have them to your shoulder and the sights aligned they shoot fine and recoil is more straight back than older sporting designs. I don't own any AR's but have several AK's. I can get the sights on a flying bird with any sporting gun way faster than anything with a pistol grip.
I wanna see the PCCs in 10mm, I have a PC9 and a PC10 just would make sense for fun’s sake. 10mm is getting more popular again so fingers crossed it will trickle down eventually.
The Henry is (to me) a work of art. The warmth of walnut wood blended beautifully to steel. The AR style weapons are just a platform for launching bullets. A Ford Focus will get you back and forth to work just as well as a Mercedes or Lincoln so, are they the same? Life is just too short to shoot fugly guns!!! JMHO
I’m shocked no one has mentioned the Marlin Camp Carbines yet. They looked a lot like the Henry Homesteader (though better in my humble opinion) and took the standard mags of the day (1911 mags for .45acp, and - I think - Beretta mags for the 9mm). More and more, I’m a fan of the pistol cal carbines. I’m not a big hunter. So, the big rifle calibers don’t really interest me all that much. .223/.300blk is about as big as i need to go to handle my needs and desires. A PCC does a fairly high percentage of my long gun needs at a lower cost per round.
The 9mm Camp Carbine used either proprietary mags or 3rd gen S&W semi-auto 9mm magazines. These days, hardly anyone who became a new shooter after 2000 knows what the 3rd gen S&W semi-auto pistols were since they've been out of production since 1999.
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“Classic” pistol caliber would be, in my opinion, a lever action .357/38spl or 44mag/spl. An auto loader such as these two examples are yet another iteration on a “modern” theme. All have a place. And yes, the Henry, like my Ruger PC40 carbine, has a more conventional look than the American Rifle (AR) styles. As with everything Hickok a nice and objective shootalong- Happy Thanksgiving.
I much prefer the classic design of guns rather than the modern stuff we have the slick, robust, wood fashioned peices of art vs something that's feels more manufactured cold and cruel It's no wonder so many people are scared of those more modular designs they look scary while the others I feel like you could hang on a wall
It's at times like this I find myself regretting going with Sig for my 9mm sidearm of choice. Don't get me wrong, I like my Sig but there are few if any options out there for PCC that take P320 mags whereas just about everything it seems takes a Glock mag. Ah well....
@@josephpreston3550 I just bought one of these today. There is a Sig P320 mag adapter which I have coming in the mail. Might has well take advantage of the mags I already have. I did the same thing with my .22LR rifles. I already had a Ruger 10/22 so when I was looking for a .22 bolt action, getting a Ruger American Rimfire was the natural choice as the same mags work in both.
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A good reminder that it is the function which defines a firearm, not the furniture...but don't tell the ATF that!
As a founder member of the NAAFP, i find your comment rather shallow and pedantic.
@Peter..Griffin nice bait lmao
@@percy6070 perhaps...
No no scariest matters lol
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That Henry reminds me so much of my old Crossman pellet rifle 😅
I think having a 9mm 13:10 PCC that accepts the same magazines that your most preferred handgun does is huge to me. Different tools for every job.
Just get a rifle then. Pcc is for what? You say different tools…use you 9mm pistol for whatever you use a pcc for. Anything else ise a rifle my man
Same tool ,barely increased velocity or energy . Pcc not worth it
@@danielcruz2256 it is much easier to be accurate with a rifle vs a handgun for most people. I'd definitely go out small game hunting with something like this over a pistol.
@@10milBill a pistol cant compete with that carbine! A new shooter can pick it up and nail 50 60 or 70 yard shots. Cant do that with a pistol!
If You Go Long Gun Then More Then Likely Your In A Long Gun Ammo Situation
My favorite PCC is a Kalashnikov KR-9. Modeled after the Vityaz SMG. Bonus: the triangle stock folds onto the left side, so firing with the stock stowed is not an issue. It does use proprietary mags, though (30rd). But, what a vibe.
I've always liked the idea of having at least one PCC and pistol in the same caliber, especially for a bugout situation.
wood furniture is BEAUTIFUL 😍
Someone needs to make an aftermarket, Thompson SMG style, shoulder stock and pistol grip for that Henry rifle.
Thanks!
I wanted to say that It's nice to see Hickok Jr. Regards.
The original Ruger PC4 and PC9 are still my personal favorite.
Good video on comparing the handling of the two different styles.
I had a Ruger Pc40. I am sorry that I sold it 20 years ago. Good gun combo with a 3rd Gen Smith.
I don't mind the term assault rifle.
A select fire rifle. M14, M16, AC556.
But assault weapon has no definition. A pencil can be an assault weapon.
Yeah same here. An assault rifle is an actual thing. A select fire rifle, as you say. Any rifle that has the capability to fire in full auto and has a detachable magazine. The uneducated unfortunately don’t know what the term means and use it to demonize semiautomatic sporting rifles such as the AR-15. Or, as you say, they use the made up term assault weapon to describe anything semiautomatic, even something like a .22 handgun. It’s ridiculous. These same people are the ones making our gun laws.
You were ringing in some Christmas cheer at the start! Tune your targets!
I enjoyed your presentation which i chose for the Henry homesteader. Keep up the good work.
I get sick of the whole "Assault Rifle" argument too. Because if you think about it, any "inanimate object" can be an "Assault Weapon". Anything from a Baseball bat, Golf club, Hockey stick, knife, (insert any blunt or edged object that can cause damage to flesh), to any motor vehicle. It's the act of assaulting another person; it doesn't matter what is being used. It should be the act and that of the person committing the act that is demonized, not the tool being used.
Usually "assault rifles" are full auto, but you can make a 9mm Glock full auto nowadays, and it doesn't yell "assault pistol".
Unfortunately since the Far Left lobby can't sell an idea well with reason and logic, they must have emotions rule over the masses in order to establish a false sense of security to the citizens obeying laws.
This is precisely why the Liberal agenda of disarmament will doom the country. The Elites maintain control, while the peasants will submit, be detained, and/or die by criminal hands.
I think intent of the original design is pretty obviously relevant, nobody has a problem with calling an G3 a battle rifle or whatever old bolt action a hunting rifle. I always just saw assault rifle as a term to differentiate between the generally older military rifles using full sized rifle rounds and the military rifles using intermediate rifle rounds. Maybe people think assault sounds more negative than battle but I have zero problem calling it an assault rifle (the ar15 not this 9mm version). Armalite didn't design it to shoot at targets and deer.
@@KrikZ32 well, you gotta realize that the very first firearm chambered in a intermediate-sized rifle cartridge and also could select fire between 1)safe, 2)semi, and 3)full was none other than the ingenuity of the Germans' design in 1943: the STG-44 or sometimes called the MP43/MP44 rifle.
It literally translates as "Sturmgewher 44" in German to "Storm Rifle 44" in English.
After WW2, the Soviets found the concept of a rifle capable of planned assault (by that I mean the soldiers' physical actions not the gun) on enemy positions by guerilla warfare tactics with the mixed capabilities of rifle and pistol calibers interesting. So, they developed their own take: the AK-47.
Following the trend leads us up to today with numerous options of these rifles. HOWEVER, U.S. federal laws dictate that select-fire guns are to be heavily regulated to the citizens. Therefore if it was manufactured after 1985, it's a no-go on owning one. A select-fire rifles created before 1985 is possible to own, but extremely expensive and time consuming- with the Government always knowing who owns it, where it is, etc.
Semi-automatic firearms have existed before select-fire guns in the early 1900's (obviously so each function exists to combine them both later), so they aren't restricted in the same way. And machine guns (restricted) were invented in the 1910's, just as WW1 was happening. We call these rifle versions "modern sporting rifles" and the rifles with more capabilities "service rifles" that no civilian can own if created after 1985.
@@kylevidetto1115 I do get the classification difference between military select fire and civilian semi auto models, that is definitely a real difference. And we do generally buy those rifles for sport shooting and the like so I really have no issue with that name for them either. I would say though, most people are buying them because it's as close to a military assault rifle as possible, and even if it's a semi-auto civilian version the original firearm and it's intent are apparent enough that it doesn't feel incorrect to me to still refer to them as assault rifles.
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Me too. Bon appetit 👍
Awesome Video! Agree with you! I like the Henry, Classic Look!
Love the videos. Could you pls do a gun collection video?
Ok, haters are going to hate on me for this, but yes I can appreciate a finely crafted wood & steel gun, especially if we are talking about American Black Walnut and a nice blued finish. This is true whether it's a classic lever gun, single action revolver, or a nice 1911. However, that is from a historical appreciation and fine craftsman perspective. I am anxiously waiting for Marlin to (re)release their 44 mag lever action in the cowboy version (not to mention Hickok's review of the classic version). However, I also understand that wood & steel were the best materials they had available at the time to make guns with back in the day, not the best materials we have available today. There are reasons modern military weapons aren't designed & built like that today. We can acknowledge the history & craftsmanship of wood & steel guns of yesteryear and also recognize the advances in material & design that have been made since then.
I would think that within 12 to 18 months, the cases challenging the so called assault weapon and magazine capacity bans will have worked their way through the appeals courts to SCOTUS and we will no longer have to make choices base on furniture. Then all of us will be able to have our preference as to Modern vs Classic regardless of state.
great education video for old and new, here we hav2e so much of old rifles ... Macedonia waching you John. Be on good health ..
Very cool video thanks I really like both styles of these rifles
3:20 I like this take, I've always hated the "5.56 is just the same as a .22" argument for a similar reason. You don't have to be dishonest to make the argument to own guns.
@@Terminxman The GCA 68 is what ended mail order weapons and implemented background checks.
@@TerminxmanNFA of 1934 is all thanks to the unpopular Alcohol Prohibition amendment that has long been repealed (one of very few to have been done so), and the rise of violent crime related to all the bootlegging by capitalist Mafia gangsters that controlled vast numbers of industries related to everyday life. Don't forget it's the United States Federal government that set up the doomed failure of the 18th amendment that indirectly focused on machine guns (commonly used in turf wars, but highly expensive at the time of Great Depression) and its place in American society.
Add the fact that portable machine guns developed just after WW1 (and one if the first times the public viewed the carnage machine guns contributed to) influenced the restricted policy to prevent collateral damages.
It's sad to see the history of machine guns being heavily regulated goes back before anyone alive today. It's a different perception no longer understood in 21st century.
Great job John! The illinois governor has made that Homesteader illegal because of the removable mag and the threaded barrel. Other states follow his lead.
You bring up a great point about perception that anti gun people have. Without a doubt the lone wolf would be picked on and the homesteader , just a hunting rifle. We just have to hang on to our rights with everything we can and never let go. Thanks for the video.
My brother bought a m1600 in 22 cal over 35 years ago that looks just Like a vietnam era m16 rifle looking at it would would make the medea think its an Assault rifle but it only holds 10 rounds its a shame they have Criminalize the ownership of such plinkers thanks john for the video
1:03 The red two-liter to the bottom right caught a stray piece of lead
I am so jealous of your guy's lifestyle getting to shoot new guns or one's that are requested.
For me, the primary appeal of the Henry is the low line of sight over bore angle - virtually no need for hold-over at close range. ARs almost always have at least 2 inches between line of sight and the bore at close range.
The SIG MPX is a great 9mm plinker. Thanks for the videos!
The people in power (a lot of them) understand the difference.
All that matters is they are using the media/public opinion to achieve their goal of taxing and disarming us.
Awesome video nice rifles thanks for sharing the information John
Love wood and metal
Fantastic, reminds me of The British Special Forces' L119A1,M16 Variant, which l watched yesterday on Forgotten Weapons.
Ian also explains how the British government commissioned H & K of Germany, to redesign the UK bullpup L85 A1. H & K, in those days being owned by a British company.
Preach that thing my brother!!! Great, great analogy comparing those rifles! They both function in the same caliber but are judged by their looks! I would love to see a defense against that point! Man if you had a microphone You could have just dropped it right their and walked away! 🎤 Case closed!!!👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Listen to that sweet music! You guys outta set up a series of targets that play all the 🎶 notes A - G and take requests.
Personally, I'd still favor the Homesteader for aesthetics and the AR type for effectiveness and modularity.
If it came to buying a PCC, I wouldn't, really, because we have two M1 Carbines, leverguns in .32-20, .357, .44 & .45 with SA and/or DA revolvers to pair with all of them. I did trade off a balky rifle for an AR9 for the wife, and built an AR22 for a drill partner for my issue M4 and personal M5 (and yes, that works fine if you are focused on getting hits).
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Thanks for your work!
Nice Video, great content
Any gun can kill in the hands of a criminal, it is the operators intent that the law should be dealing with, not the tools available to us, for any reason we choose. They are trying to fight crime before crime has happened, which has done NOTHING in NYC, Chicago, LA, Portland... etc That is not how a free society functions.🤦♂
Yes. And laws that state how behavior should be modeled in a society don't necessarily provide the results of expected outcomes. Normally, people would rather not draw attention to themselves, but for many complex reasons there will always be bad actors out there with irresponsible motives. No law can ever prevent it.
@@kylevidetto1115 It's called humanity, we ain't perfect. 🤷♂️
@@CookieMonster_1969 exactly. Politicians finding a solution to a problem that doesn't exist yet, because what else does their job do?
I’d prefer a hybrid of these two, with a few small changes.
Keep the picrail free top, and non folding iron sights from the henry. Make the stock folding, shorten the barrel to 5.5”, move the magwell back a smidge to within the pistol grip, keep a removable upper like the ar, except it would be more like a slide, than an upper. Recoil operated. Just make it a little…no a lot more like a p320 or glock sitting in a flux raider, and a lot less like a full sized rifle shooting a wimpy pistol cartridge.
Agreed
Why do U.N. tanks have rear view mirrors?
To see the village they were supposed to protect.
Well done John.
Henry firearms continues to improve their products and choices among their own products and competition.
The Henry Big Boy Steel in .38/357 was a significant move to show that they were not just about cosmetics (brass), but about functionality and reliability.
The lever action .357 takes the dual carry of revolver and rifle to a new level of protection and capability, as would the .44-mag combination. A 9mm carbine adds some additional energy over a 4" pistol, however the increase is not significant IMO.
Good video! Agree 100% with your logic.
Everyone forgets the M1 carbine and Ruger Blackhawk in 30. Carbine these a pistol combo
I think if I was shooting from the hip I would be bump firing. Tried that one time with a Wasr-10 and tore the crap out of my hand never did that again
The henry homesteader reminds me of the Winchester 1907 pretty cool.
I would argue that having a swept grip is more ergonomic for shooting from the hip. It puts your wrist in a better position for extended shooting & more accurate holds than any pistol grip could. 😊
Talking about counter intuitive, at least to me. If that is the case, why are modern rifles made with the pistol grip? Are they just all wrong, what am I missing? I have always had the theory that guns were originally designed with straight stocks (e.g. early lever guns & before) as it was cheaper and easier to manufacture. Then came the added complication and complexity of the swept or curved grips you see in later lever guns, bolt actions. This was better but required a more sophisticated manufacture process. Next came the pistol grips which are even more complicated to manufacture but better. Just a theory. Not sure about shooting from the hip though, not in my repertoire .
@@RebelByNature I was only speaking in terms of shooting from the hip.
@@patri0t1776 Oops, sorry :(
7:40 The only thing I can think of was the brief experiment with walking fire and the BAR during WWI, but the idea was abandoned before it ever saw combat because of how ridiculous it was.
I thought the classic PCC was the Winchester 1873. 😊😇
Shhhh, don't tell anyone, they will go after Henry's like the Hi cap 357 😮
Like watching John too, great gun for the fence, i never skip that)
The Maglula loader is nice, but ETS-GROUP-C-A-M-LOADER-P would definitely get the job done a lot better, especially with the 33 round mags!
Awesome video!
First thing is that agent has been watching too many Rambo movies.
Second thing is that the left doesn’t want to ban any one firearm they want to ban them all.
Third thing is if you will talk to your dad he can show you how to hit those little red plates more often. Jk. Nice video and good shooting 👍👍. Thx for the video. That homesteader would be nice. 😊
Hey Hickok! Would love to see you guys play around with the Henry Axe! Super fun to shoot.
Id like to see Henry do the homesteader in a 10mm and also run Glock Mags.
That looks so fun. It's like gun Nirvana
Love these videos
Please do a video on the Ruger Deerfield .44 magnum carbine
in my opinion the classic henry homesteader is such a beautiful rifle, im going to get hate for this but ... AR platforms just look like your'e trying to play soldier
I like the Henry
Their 5 and 10 round magazines are a joke
@@rob6850 it takes glock mags who cares
@@CamGayloreh, I have the Ruger. I use Ruger mags. Even their fuddy selves give you 17.
Don't get me wrong, I like the look of the Henry just fine, and I'm sure the lame mags are a concession to the unfree states, but for $900 it should come with the mag capacity to defend your family, the way S&W is doing with the FPC.
Another option like the Homesteader in 10mm would be awesome.
Very cool I like both
I certainly am a BIG FAN of that Henry. Is the Henry rail, Dot, scope ready?
👍😊 the only thing the AR has the adjustable stock.
John's commentary at the 03:00 mark about the folly of, in effect, invoking the Milquetoast Middle's "assault rifle" framing in the very act of trying to defuse it, is precisely the lesson George Lakoff's work can teach 2A advocates. Familiarity with his more academic books has been sorely lacking in the 2A community, since until recently so few of us from the Left, where Lakoff and his theories on framing in rhetoric originate, were really getting much acknowledgement for our contributions on the pro-2A front. The time to come together and exchange ideas is now.
Y’all should make a Christmas jingle shooting steel plates
Appreciate the videos.
How about a stamped steel, cheap 9 mm carbine as an alternative to the Hi Point? It would sell like crazy.
It's called "UZI", but it ain't cheap anymore. They also made semi-auto version of it.
The Russians made the PPSh41 during WW2, a cheap rifle, so it can be done.
@@PassivePortfolios you can get a polish semi auto pps43 in 9mm for 500 but that's almost twice as much as a hi point
Surprising to hear people say the AR is points more naturally than a conventional rifle. They are top heavy and clunky to me as are all pistol grip guns. Yeah, once you have them to your shoulder and the sights aligned they shoot fine and recoil is more straight back than older sporting designs. I don't own any AR's but have several AK's. I can get the sights on a flying bird with any sporting gun way faster than anything with a pistol grip.
Are y'all going to the Franklin Civil War Gun Show this weekend? I'm excited to be there
I never miss it.
Both great for Da’fence.
I wanna see the PCCs in 10mm, I have a PC9 and a PC10 just would make sense for fun’s sake. 10mm is getting more popular again so fingers crossed it will trickle down eventually.
The Henry is (to me) a work of art. The warmth of walnut wood blended beautifully to steel. The AR style weapons are just a platform for launching bullets. A Ford Focus will get you back and forth to work just as well as a Mercedes or Lincoln so, are they the same? Life is just too short to shoot fugly guns!!! JMHO
The Ruger PC9 has a rail on it and is more of the style of the Henry.
Please provide a link to where the Lone Wolf G9 is being sold. I even tried searching the manufacture's website and cant find a trace of it.
Wood stock = better club.
When saveing ammo.
I’m shocked no one has mentioned the Marlin Camp Carbines yet. They looked a lot like the Henry Homesteader (though better in my humble opinion) and took the standard mags of the day (1911 mags for .45acp, and - I think - Beretta mags for the 9mm). More and more, I’m a fan of the pistol cal carbines. I’m not a big hunter. So, the big rifle calibers don’t really interest me all that much. .223/.300blk is about as big as i need to go to handle my needs and desires. A PCC does a fairly high percentage of my long gun needs at a lower cost per round.
The 9mm Camp Carbine used either proprietary mags or 3rd gen S&W semi-auto 9mm magazines. These days, hardly anyone who became a new shooter after 2000 knows what the 3rd gen S&W semi-auto pistols were since they've been out of production since 1999.
I went and looked it up after I posted my original comment, and you are correct that it was 3Gen 59 series mags for the 9mm.
Can the ejection be switched to the left-side for the left-handers out there?
I got the keltec sub2k and century arms wasrm both solid guns
Both look like great plinkers.
Did Hickok45 ever do a seecamp 32 acp review!
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Put them together you got the M14.
“Classic” pistol caliber would be, in my opinion, a lever action .357/38spl or 44mag/spl. An auto loader such as these two examples are yet another iteration on a “modern” theme. All have a place. And yes, the Henry, like my Ruger PC40 carbine, has a more conventional look than the American Rifle (AR) styles. As with everything Hickok a nice and objective shootalong- Happy Thanksgiving.
45-70 Marlin lever action
@@bleedcubieblue 45-70 would be a bit robust as a “pistol caliber” though!
@@us1fedvet ok 45 long colt
45 mag
Not to be that guy but AR stands for Armalite Rifle, not American.
@@isaacstevenson7971 you sure its not assault rifle
i suppose you could fire from the hip if you had a laser light/dot on both. hell, i'd own both if i could. maybe i'll get one for xmas...lol
I much prefer the classic design of guns rather than the modern stuff we have the slick, robust, wood fashioned peices of art vs something that's feels more manufactured cold and cruel
It's no wonder so many people are scared of those more modular designs they look scary while the others I feel like you could hang on a wall
😅but the one on the left is so scary 😂 lmao
I really like the homesteader
But I don't hate a good ar
Elephant gun next?
Can you play jingle bells on the targets 😂
It's at times like this I find myself regretting going with Sig for my 9mm sidearm of choice. Don't get me wrong, I like my Sig but there are few if any options out there for PCC that take P320 mags whereas just about everything it seems takes a Glock mag. Ah well....
Nothing wrong with a Sig, but for many the case for buying a 9mm PCC is to save money at the range...and no one ever bought a Sig to save money!
@@josephpreston3550 I just bought one of these today. There is a Sig P320 mag adapter which I have coming in the mail. Might has well take advantage of the mags I already have. I did the same thing with my .22LR rifles. I already had a Ruger 10/22 so when I was looking for a .22 bolt action, getting a Ruger American Rimfire was the natural choice as the same mags work in both.
both are good varmit guns
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The Homesteader looks a little like a baby BAR
Is an assault rifle like an assault pencil or a assault from a bat?
Hmmmm
It's similar to the comparison between a mini 14 and the AR15
Agree with you 100%
Funny how the military and police don't ' look bad ', even when strutting around cities and villages with ARs...
Either way you choose the difference is in familiarity