The Dark Tetrad: The Labyrinth of Machiavellianism
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- Опубліковано 26 кві 2024
- Machiavellianism is characterised by being manipulative, duplicitous and having a willingness to deceive and exploit others for personal gain. The word comes from Italian philosopher Niccolò Machiavelli, who wrote the 'The Prince' in the 1500s, which encourages “the end justifies the means” behaviour. Someone who is machiavellian is cunning, sneaky and lacks a moral code.
This podcast looks at Machiavellianism in the context of The Dark Tetrad, which also consists of psychopathy, narcissism and sadism, outlining the nature of Machiavellian behaviour in the context of the other three also co occuring.
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Thanks Darren for explaining these viscous, 'end game playing' sub-humans the way you do. I wish I knew this decades ago and am interested to learn more.
I'll never tire of listening to this. Awesome. And thanks.
Spot on Darren. This is exactly the case. Monstrous behaviour.
Yes, a sibling who has poisoned our family, in several ways, over the years. And outsiders think: what a charming person.
I have one of those in my family. Well, several, but the rest were all infected by the one. I'm often reminded of a joke from the show Everybody Loves Raymond. Someone meets Ray's maniac parents for the first time and afterwards says to Ray "They seem nice!" Ray unenthusiastically replies, "Yeah... they seem nice."
@@jumpinjohnnyruss "Yeah... they seem nice."
"Such a lovely person to have such ungrateful children." Promises promises. Some I'm still waiting for. "One day", and "We'll see". That's nothing but a malicious liar as one day, you just realize. At least I never went over to the dark side. Because I have a conscious.
4:44 - 5:05 That's exactly what I've experienced. What a nightmare that was.
Wow. This was such an eye opener. Perfectly described some excuse-for-a-human coworkers!😮 Thanks for sharing this
Remember, the world is controlled by Dark Tetrad types. Beat them or join them, but never underestimate them. Unfortunately, those that know the danger these devils pose are too afraid of them to do anything about them. I confess... I'm one of those that is too afraid to do anything.
There isn't a day that goes by where I don't desire to have a strong Dark Tertad personality. After all, they win, they take all, and they get away with it.
Never join them. Would you really want to be a person who lacks the capacity for empathy? I don't see how anyone who has empathy would want to lose it. If you want to be able to not care about people because it would make things easier for you, then you kind of already don't. I know people (my own brother, for one) who have had children, knowing that to live lives that aren't miserable they'll have to devote themselves an evil institution. I don't see how a person can do that. When you're deciding to become a parent, don't you contemplate things like whether the happy and wonderful person that your child could become under the best circumstances would hate you for forcing them into what you know will be an ignominious existence?
I'm not going to be the one to stop them, only the law or their own doings (karma) can stop them. Besides, after a lifetime plagued but them I have found the reason for it due to my mother's scapegoating but too late. I'm not young anymore and she has left me broke in all aspects of the word. She has committed the perfect crime and after six years trying to heal, I doubt I can make it although at first I thought it would be easier but the more I try to heal, the more I realized how damaged I am. Still, I don't envy them; I'm not a parasite.
It depends on your priorities. Have you ever met a happy psycho? I've known quite a few, unfortunately. Not one of them was happy or content for longer than five minutes. They couldn't trust (even their own senses). They could only try control everything. Which is impossible.
Protect yourself. Fight when you have to. But stop when it's enough. Prioritize your opinion of yourself before anything external. Fear is understandable, but face it and it will go away.
You can't be scared or bitter or jealous, and be joyful, feel connected, & content at the same time.
Being principled, and caring about others, doesn't mean you have to be a sucker or a scapegoat.
Cheers.
This was hard to hear, but much needed. Great explanation, thx Darren!
Well done !
This was a great overview. Thank you.
We've got a whole tribe of Machiavellian people in "our" government. I'd say they've infiltrated most previously-European countries as well.
There are plenty in that "tribe" who aren't Machiavellian... they're mostly the ones whose ancestors survived the Holocaust through happenstance, though, rather than through cunning. Every population has Machiavellian people, but the proportions change when that population is culled. If they're in fact more Machiavellian than the average person, then I highly doubt that it's intrinsic to the "tribe".
@@jumpinjohnnyrussYou just highlighted a clear selection-pressure that would cause a disproportion amount of these traits in their population.
It goes beyond the single event too, but is a likely outcome from subsisting within other-groups and not assimilating for thousands of years.
The ones that did not assimilate, kept their identity, their In-Group bias and thus the traits needed to maintain it (for the most part).
But this goes for all populations.
To say "not-all" is redundant.
Everyone knows it's "not-all" for all populations and their trait distributions, but until we start effectively tracking and demonstrating traits in individuals (maybe using fMRI and PRS), we can only go by heuristic and observation.
I'm from Europe and I can't agree more with you but this is global; it's about the human race not nationality.
Nailed it Dan
2:49 til the end = Shepherd Church + Jfam!
Nah. People on mach scale don't need admiration or attention. They prefer to stay low key to not uncover their goals. No self esteem issues like NPD , mood disorder like NPD, excellent cognitive empathy and can put their emotional thinking on hold.
Finally, someone understands. 😄
I have a former sibling who’s as this is described. Definitely machiavellinistic. The ONLY thing that may trip her up, iis that I wonder how psychopathic she is. Because she doesn’t appear to be calmly unaffected. She appears enraged and utterly out of control.
Oh really?!
I think that the only difference between a malignant narcissist and a psychopath is anxiety and fear. Well, narcissists need constant validation and are quite cowards out of their killing ground.
@@Lyrielonwind tough to tell. Maybe a narcopath, although not a real designation. It is apparently rare, for a narcissist to cross over into a psychopath. Perhaps, other than the aging, worsening narcissist, it’s mostly in stasis. Still, it at least felt like my mother and now my younger sister might be bridging that gap. I’m no expert, however. But, I saw with my mother and now with my sister, the starting of having mo fear of police. There’s cred to it, when they find the police may notice realize they’re being used to predate or that it’s hard to get arrested, for breaking and entering or stealing mail, in this current climate and for whatever is considered a domestic dispute. What ever it is my mother had, that my sister seems a far worse and sick version of, I want no parts of.
What they lack in empathy-they contain in ENORMOUS CHARM. 😳😮💨
My mafiosa aunt will take it as a compliment when she reads this comment calling her Machiavellian.
They can take it like a compliment. Being cold and cruel mean being intelligent for them.
We’re still using Machiavellian as a pejorative in the 21st century? I know this isn’t the point of the video but this interpretation of Machiavelli has been understood as a severe and somewhat intentional misrepresentation. The Oxford World Classics edition of “The Prince” has a phenomenal intro and footnotes explaining how and why these misinterpretations came to be. “The ends justify the means” is a gross error in translation and intent.
I'm not disagreeing with you. Do you have a suggestion for a substitute?
Are you white washing Machiavello?
@@jumpinjohnnyruss I do disagree and I'm waiting for him to explain why "the ends justify the means" doesn't mean what it means.
Although English is not my native language I'm not bad at analizing written texts so I hope he's good at ambiguity and logical fallacies 😊 because... this sounds interesting 🤔😂
Gaslighting is illegal. So is cyberstalking & bullying. People need to grow up and realize that the internet is not a safe zone for illegal behavior or vigilante behavior.
I don't know what you mean. Who's vigilant? Who's gaslighting who?
Klaus Schwab, Sullivan/Biden, Selensky and many others!
Show me any human who does not parctice this tableau,. This defines human nature
What about the existence of hierarchies? If we all were the same, there wouldn't be any distinctions among us and among them.