What Happens When a Narcissist Can't Control Someone?

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  • Narcissistic people often seek to control and manipulate others to satisfy their own needs for admiration, validation, and power. But when they encounter resistance or are unable to control someone, their fragile sense of self and sense of entitlement is challenged.
    This video looks at some situations in which a narcissist might experience a lack of control and outlines some of their common reactions.
    #mentalhealth #narcissism #narcissisticabuseawareness

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  • @victoriaclarke961
    @victoriaclarke961 6 місяців тому +302

    Narcissism is just so tragic on so many levels. Don't get me wrong the behaviour is next level awful but the whole NPD picture is tragic to all involved. It's pointless behaviour that never changes.

    • @jeffreyjackson5229
      @jeffreyjackson5229 6 місяців тому +25

      Never changes is right. While my father is now deceased, both of my parents were still the same despite my being gone for almost 30 years and 14 consecutive years before seeing either one of them. It's just too deeply engrained.

    • @victoriaclarke961
      @victoriaclarke961 6 місяців тому +37

      @@jeffreyjackson5229 it's amazing the damage it can do to a family. So much division and lost opportunity.

    • @nateo200
      @nateo200 6 місяців тому +48

      Right? Most of the worst narcissists I've met were always smart, charismatic, and capable but nothing was ever enough. They destroy the very people who want to help them. The damage they do is always so senseless of course they are experts at reframing their behavior as a necessary response to something you absolutely didnt do so people are never wise enough to see it at least not right away. And when you catch them in a lie it splinters into blame shifting, changing the subject and chaos.

    • @rockstarofredondo
      @rockstarofredondo 6 місяців тому

      I agree. It’s even a disability. But we still have to get away from them.

    • @robbrewer2036
      @robbrewer2036 6 місяців тому +15

      Victims don't need to be victims,narcs are realy petulant 6yr olds with no currage stand up to them and they run away.

  • @bigcheech1937
    @bigcheech1937 6 місяців тому +97

    I defeat every narcissist in my life with one simple move. Walk away and never look back 🙏🏾

    • @jvb6547
      @jvb6547 3 місяці тому +6

      Sadly, it’s not a defeat by any means. There are plenty of other victims.

    • @SanityIsland
      @SanityIsland 2 місяці тому +4

      Also sadly, some are in powerful positions that create victims of ordinary people.

    • @ishitabhardwaj1797
      @ishitabhardwaj1797 Місяць тому +5

      Sadly not in family we can do this

  • @828findadventure
    @828findadventure 6 місяців тому +194

    The sad thing is that no matter what you do or say, a narcissist will never connect the dots. They will just tell everyone something is wrong with you, doing whatever they can to get “supply” from those that will listen now that you have gone silent. Believe me, silence is golden and the best revenge.

    • @mj3845
      @mj3845 4 місяці тому +3

      You've truly identified what's been happening to my husband and I. My husband's 51 year old daughter has for 37 years never accepted our marriage. Her mother died in 1985 and we got married in 1987. She has tried to tear our marriage apart and destroy me personally. I'm just now rebuilding my self esteem. Nothing will ever ruin our marriage. God put us together after his wife died. His daughter is 51 and still lives her mother's death every day. Gosh, my husband and I are able to think of all the wonderful things about his former wife. That's how his daughter should have evolved after all these years. Remember all the good things. Stop making up lies and tearing us down to everyone you know. Sorry to wax on.

  • @EE12CSVT
    @EE12CSVT 6 місяців тому +84

    It's hilarious to watch them crumble when they realise they can't manipulate you. They're open mouthed that someone is impervious to their 'charms'.

    • @lizericsonn9367
      @lizericsonn9367 Місяць тому +3

      no, not always, when they have trapped you somewhere and you let them know you are onto them you may not get out in one peice.

    • @EE12CSVT
      @EE12CSVT Місяць тому

      @@lizericsonn9367 Um, every woman I've met since 2008 has tried to do that, and failed. I'm hoping that at least one of the two women now coming on to me aren't going to be like that.

    • @jeffreyjackson5229
      @jeffreyjackson5229 26 днів тому +1

      ​@@lizericsonn9367sounds like you have experience?

    • @lizericsonn9367
      @lizericsonn9367 26 днів тому +1

      @@jeffreyjackson5229 yes

  • @Kloops
    @Kloops 6 місяців тому +69

    My covert ex husband is an expert at lying and gas lighting and controlling.
    And boy does he ever have a vindictive side.
    But I’ve fought like hell to get myself back. And I’m starting to finally like myself again.

  • @wayneelliott1180
    @wayneelliott1180 6 місяців тому +39

    Mine didn't walk away despite my indifference. She stalked me relentlessly. Then launched a vicious smear campaign. It continues 5 years later. I haven't acknowledged her at all for four years. Her rage and hate is immeasurable.

    • @dlewis895
      @dlewis895 4 місяці тому

      FINDING A THERAPIST AND TYPE OF 12 STEP PROGRAM CAN HELP US GROW LEARN DEVELOP OURSELVES AND SHARE SUPPORT KINDNESS CARING ACCEPTANCE...

    • @wayneelliott1180
      @wayneelliott1180 4 місяці тому +18

      @@dlewis895 I don’t need a therapist. The predator does.

    • @karadiberlino
      @karadiberlino 2 місяці тому +6

      @@wayneelliott1180Well said! I say the same… 💯😁👌🏼

    • @patriciafry8634
      @patriciafry8634 2 місяці тому +3

      Try a woman my husband dated and moved on from, having discovered “a dark side”, 50 years ago! She, two husbands and a somewhat failed career later, is still after me.

    • @L-yl9kx
      @L-yl9kx 26 днів тому

      @@wayneelliott1180maybe for emotional support and possible evidence if you need to take it to court, but you are right about the other person needing ti.

  • @bereal6590
    @bereal6590 4 дні тому +2

    That's it EXACTLY, they don't really care, they just care that they can't control anymore. They conveniently forget every nasty thing they've said to you and become the consummate victim!

  • @lordfreerealestate8302
    @lordfreerealestate8302 4 місяці тому +17

    It's like those estranged parents who are shocked their kids won't talk to them anymore. Or shocked their partner left them after all the abuse. They act like victims when the real victim decide they won't take it anymore.

    • @robinantonio8870
      @robinantonio8870 4 місяці тому +2

      My mother constantly my entire life told me everything I wanted to do would fail miserably, despite me telling her every time it made me feel like killing myself. Finally I stopped telling her anything. Now she complains I'm " secretive" because I never tell her anything. FGS, connect the dots ,woman.

    • @bereal6590
      @bereal6590 4 дні тому +1

      My mother is a master at pretending she wants to 'help', so she can sit in her rescuer martyrdom and then everyone else is ungrateful. When that doesn't work she is passive aggressive and word salad peppered with nasty. I always complied and agreed. Now I'm not doing so, the grudges and venom are seeping out. I'm very ill but in her head im some kind of malingerer

  • @jeffreyjackson5229
    @jeffreyjackson5229 26 днів тому +7

    "Looking for vulnerabilities"- I saw it immediately when she tried it. I put on my best pokerface and kept it moving.

    • @walkietalkie6679
      @walkietalkie6679 11 днів тому +1

      After I broke the trauma bond I saw it clearly and the mirroring... so creepy

  • @suzannebunbury2961
    @suzannebunbury2961 6 місяців тому +101

    Yes!!!!! More authenticity and narc repellent training, please ❤️
    You’re a treasure

    • @Pookabee
      @Pookabee 6 місяців тому +1

      But he just said that narcissists think their special and deserve to be seen as special. So now I'm confused.

    • @-.-E-.-
      @-.-E-.- 6 місяців тому +1

      I second this!!

    • @suzannebunbury2961
      @suzannebunbury2961 6 місяців тому +3

      @@Pookabee they *think* they should be treated as special, uniquely special and amazing, superior to everyone else - that’s where their prideful attitude and entitled attitudes come from 🦋

  • @teresaalvarado3018
    @teresaalvarado3018 6 місяців тому +8

    The final curtain for a narcissist is when they can't go back.
    Nothing they can do to change the past.

  • @stephenatkinson2333
    @stephenatkinson2333 6 місяців тому +51

    In other words, narcissistic people are insane, disillusioned, sadly twisted, lost souls. A seriously mentally injured being. 😢

    • @jeanettecook1088
      @jeanettecook1088 8 днів тому +1

      That all may be, but they're still responsible for their behavior, and the harm they do to others.

    • @stephenatkinson2333
      @stephenatkinson2333 8 днів тому

      @@jeanettecook1088 no. They're not. Are you the judge... no.

    • @stephenatkinson2333
      @stephenatkinson2333 8 днів тому +1

      @jeanettecook1088 no, they're not. They are forgiven. Like everyone else.

  • @Z1nny
    @Z1nny 6 місяців тому +42

    Yes please, I'm interested in authenticity as a narc-repellant 🙋‍♀️

    • @lauradelregno99
      @lauradelregno99 6 місяців тому +7

      😂 narc repellent 😅😅

    • @moirosalina
      @moirosalina 6 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for that, I would've spelled it the same way, now I have learned something.

    • @GuitarMatt
      @GuitarMatt 29 днів тому +1

      Good luck with that MISCONCEPTION because they love to target the AUTHENTIC especially until it's almost too late. (That's when the mask comes off)

  • @sandycares2995
    @sandycares2995 6 місяців тому +62

    My experience in a nursing home of a female narcissist was hiding cups, little plates and cutlery. Roughly 20 of each hidden in the back of drawers and a cubby hole. I believe she was frustrated on trying to make certain staff members her source.
    Upon discovering this I piled everything in her lap in her wheelchair and wheeled her to the kitchen. They were shocked and said they had been missing these articles.
    She never changed expression, batted an eye or apologized. Her only reaction initially was an expression that said " shoot I got caught".
    She was my mother.

    • @randy_cbc8811
      @randy_cbc8811 5 місяців тому +4

      That's sad, Sandy. 😥

    • @patriciafry8634
      @patriciafry8634 2 місяці тому

      I was once in charge of a school scholarship auction. One mother told others and school officials that I was not letting her participate. I had to explain that I had caught her hiding donation slips and donations, but it was a painful experience because I suffered a lot of disapproval.

    • @L-yl9kx
      @L-yl9kx 26 днів тому

      Jesus christ 😂

  • @TheBigdog868
    @TheBigdog868 6 місяців тому +11

    They're so weak. I truly feel sorry for them. From a safe distance, that is.

    • @jackilynpyzocha662
      @jackilynpyzocha662 Місяць тому

      I don't like, love, respect or obey my narc dad, he acts entitled to it. (fawning over him, that won't happen!)

  • @hazelmarieb9934
    @hazelmarieb9934 6 місяців тому +47

    Not my most recent discard but definitely the most usual reason I was devalued and discarded: I was respecting her boundaries too much. Yes. That. The cognitive dissonance is strong with narcissists. They WILL find a reason.

    • @poison_plays
      @poison_plays 6 місяців тому +7

      Wow, that is some backward thinking. How dare you treat her with respect, apparently? 🤦‍♀️
      I’m guessing she didn’t respect your boundaries the same way? That’s been my experience with narcissists who think they understand boundaries-they don’t, especially anyone’s but their own.

    • @fookthenarcopath
      @fookthenarcopath 3 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂 my recent discard was because "I am a great partner, but I didn't make him breakfast after he complained about work related stress"

  • @marilyntoews9331
    @marilyntoews9331 3 місяці тому +8

    I’ve realized now that I’ve had narcissists in my life for 60 years and didn’t realize what was going on. I wish I would have learned all this sooner. It may have saved me mountains of grief frustration and anger. One has literally destroyed my family and one has destroyed my in-law family. I’ve seen relationships completely severed because of them. One sister in law had to sever her own relationship with her parents because the the narcissist sister had so convinced their parents of her own delusions. It’s so beyond sad.

  • @mrsqueakthecat.8061
    @mrsqueakthecat.8061 6 місяців тому +22

    I went though all of this when I stood up to the narc family members in my life. Once it became obvious that their lying, gaslighting, projectionism, deflection and general shityness were going to get them called out and even teased by me to their faces, they just gave up.
    Things went from them coming over and threatening and harassing me to my face to now they will crawl over broken glass to avoid interacting with me anywhere. I'm fine with that. It was their decision, not mine.

    • @bradyryan5105
      @bradyryan5105 3 місяці тому

      Your family is better than mine; mine resorts to physical hostility

    • @mrsqueakthecat.8061
      @mrsqueakthecat.8061 3 місяці тому +3

      @@bradyryan5105 I think mine would have gone there too, but being I am younger and in far better shape I think they knew it would've brought about a life-long deserved beat down they wouldn't have walked away from.

    • @jackilynpyzocha662
      @jackilynpyzocha662 Місяць тому

      My dad needs a lecture from me! I won't waste my time on him. My win!

  • @fastrivers812
    @fastrivers812 5 місяців тому +5

    In my case, with a therapist's help, I stopped getting angry and yelling at my wife when she would mischaracterize me when we would argue. She was trying to control me through my anger and when that stopped she went behind my back telling lies to people at church about me. She claimed I was abusive and these flying monkeys believed it despite the fact that I could prove in most cases that she was lying. They STILL believed her. When I told the elders of the church that I was leaving, then she couldn't control me through them and the shit hit the fan. She tried claiming I abused her and I am now facing charges. I should've taken people's advice a few months ago to get out but I didn't want to disrupt the kids. Now she's trying to punish me by using them. It's sick.

  • @jeffreyjackson5229
    @jeffreyjackson5229 6 місяців тому +26

    She, my new work colleague, definitely has tried different tactics, and my verbal and nonverbal communication has remained the same: "It's not going to happen."

    • @rockstarofredondo
      @rockstarofredondo 6 місяців тому +3

      Same thing was happening at my most recent job. I just walked leaving her high and dry. Not going to be around that.

  • @todayisareallygreatday.9904
    @todayisareallygreatday.9904 6 місяців тому +41

    This is a good one. I see some signs that the narcissist person is realizing that she doesn't control me - actually hasn't for way longer than she understood. Will be interesting how this video matches up with what I am observing!

  • @privateprivate8366
    @privateprivate8366 6 місяців тому +27

    This video is my recently-deceased neighbor’s eulogy. It was further validated, when another neighbor was told, by the woman cleaning out her apartment, that family hadn’t wanted to be bothered with her, because she was too demanding. Something I’d learned, when she couldn’t make me be her free caregiver, with tactics I was impervious to, including a sudden pattern of package theft. I guess she was surprised to see the police at her door.

    • @carpathianken
      @carpathianken 6 місяців тому +5

      That petty little manipulative thieving cow. I can just imagine her victim feigning "I'm the worlds best neighbour that would never steal from anyone" excuses to the Police when they arrived to question her.

    • @privateprivate8366
      @privateprivate8366 6 місяців тому +10

      @@carpathianken I still consider her a human being, in expediently-declining health. That, in part, her behavior was a cry for help.
      Still, her approach to me, was textbook narcissistic and I saw a few things I didn’t want to be bothered with, on the heels of going no contact with my narcissistic mother.
      I feel sorry. Not for behavior I knew to protect myself from. But because, what I garnered from what she told me, when we spoke for a brief period of time, was a life that, in both nature and nurture, of lack thereof, led to a miserable existence and early death. She was 63 when she died. About 6 years older than myself. But looked 10 years older.
      I’m not at all bind with empathy though. Pretty sure she had full intentions of absolutely turning me into a slave. That during the 3 years before she told me, “I took care of my mother and you can take care of me,” she sat, watched, made decisions for me in her mind, decided that because I was single, no kids, had enough empathy to even walk my cat and maybe race might’ve been a factor, that I had no choice, but to be an appliance. I can only say that she was fortunate, in the fact that I said no. My own mother found out, the hard way, that I do not take abuse. I will walk out on you, like you’re a piece of furniture first.

    • @carpathianken
      @carpathianken 6 місяців тому +6

      @@privateprivate8366 I respect your insight into understanding why your neighbour stooped to such lousy behaviour & your willingness to still have a caring view towards her , but I can't help but feel that considering that your neighbour had the ability to alienate her entire family that she must have been a genuinely toxic individual, even in the past. In my experience families generally stick together even through extremely troubling times & will only wash their hands of someone when they perpetually feel used & abused in a parasitic way by them. Sorry to hear that you had to sever all ties with your Mother, of all people we should be able to trust & rely on our own mother to nurture & support us when we're vulnerable & be a decent role model .

    • @privateprivate8366
      @privateprivate8366 6 місяців тому +4

      @@carpathianken narcissism can be a set of complex perspectives. Much the same as it’s said that one person’s hero, is another person’s terrorist, many see me as the abusive narcissist or at least, an indifferent, disinterested daughter, to a mother who “undoubtedly” loved me. That I both have and deserve the same fate, as my neighbor, which is isolation, because we must be one and the same. Especially as I “appeared” indifferent to her plight. Self preservation and protection can look exactly like that. Difference is, I’m not going after anyone, with nefarious intent. Life is precious, for everyone, even when they don’t feel so, whether for themselves or others. It is painful to have to protect yourself, from a person who, to a point, you can see in 3D and even what life may have been for them, as a child. More so, with your actual parent, who you thought you had a symbiotic relationship with and hoped to be with, through the winter of their life.
      So, some might say, “Well, your family got rid of you, like your neighbor’s family got rid of her. No, I went no contact from my family, to protect myself and them.

    • @carpathianken
      @carpathianken 6 місяців тому

      @@privateprivate8366 Could it be that that's what makes a narcissist's impact on us so doubly damaging because the narcissist can create an image to the outside world that they are our & everybody else's hero but in reality they are seemingly evil incarnate because we know their true character & what they're capable of? My psychologist told me that my mother is so toxic that I'm going to have to sever all ties with her. I NEVER considered doing that because the abuse she inflicted on me was lifelong neglect, physical, verbal & then financial abuse & I never knew any different & I stupidly figured families always stick together.(Of which I have no doubt the narcissist knows & they then take full advantage of) When I started earning money she badgered me to pay off her mortgage, which I did (because all her family with equally low standards as hers compelled me to) when I should have been investing in my own future & starting some positive momentum in my own property rather than being her cash cow. I'm like you, I don't have any malicious intent for my mother either but I can't continue to feel like a glutton for punishment so as a protective measure I've removed her from my life.

  • @imnoel8214
    @imnoel8214 6 місяців тому +23

    Yes, I would also love to learn more about authenticity and how it repels narcissists!

    • @dlewis895
      @dlewis895 4 місяці тому

      SELF CARE. SELF PARENTING IS HEALING AND PEACEFUL 12 STEP PROGRAMS ARE GREAT HELP FOR GROWING UP AND HEALING ACCEPTANCE

    • @jackilynpyzocha662
      @jackilynpyzocha662 Місяць тому

      I'm going to use an analogy of a tortilla chips, salsa and queso; I am authentic. He (Dad, the narcissist) fake!

  • @rosalynmoyle3766
    @rosalynmoyle3766 6 місяців тому +22

    Well said. Resisting isn't easy. I like the being authentic. What I may also interpret as being true to oneself.

  • @user-fk8rb8ue5h
    @user-fk8rb8ue5h 6 місяців тому +9

    Narcissist that I went out with, once I really challenged her, she slung her hook and found someone else.

  • @lindalarson5468
    @lindalarson5468 Місяць тому +3

    ..."It's often worth discerning, the change in the person and the change in their tactics." 4:46 That is so profound.

  • @RobShuttleworth
    @RobShuttleworth 6 місяців тому +10

    Had 2 different workshop landlords, (7+ yrs each, as a tenant) they both did the same things... targeted my resources, wasted my time with nonsense, locked me out for imaginary debts, denied me access to my vehicle and equipment and made my possessions vanish.

  • @sburns2421
    @sburns2421 6 місяців тому +14

    @4:30.
    Experienced Narcs will find a way to make their targets choose after love bombing: either them or everyone else (and thus be deprived of their affection).
    When my mother died, my emotionally devastated father immediately entered into a relationship with an obvious Narcissistic woman (she split the families of her two previous marriages into her few fans and many enemies).
    When she knew I wasn't buying one second of her BS she immediately manipulated him and we are effectively estranged for the past four years. My brother is willing to tolerate her just pick up whatever scraps of a relationship with our father she is willing to let him have.
    I warned him a few months after my mother's passing that his choices were going to create a prison for him. She is apparently the warden, and doesn't want visiting hours.
    Hate is a strong word, but perhaps appropriate in my feelings for her. But also for him on some level. It has been heart-breaking to experience and makes me question everything I have ever thought about him.

  • @anniemac7545
    @anniemac7545 5 місяців тому +5

    Authentic people are prey for the narcissist......to be their scapegoat

  • @Ringworld2
    @Ringworld2 3 місяці тому +3

    My first childhood best friend was a pathological liar and narcissist / manipulator. He screwed me up for sure to some degree but im grateful that i was exposed to this toxic behavior at a young age because its allowed me to counter them as adults. Like another commenter said, its hilarious as an adult to see the look on a narcissist's face when they realize they are face to face with someone that knows exactly what they are and every trick in the book they are about to try to use. My sister also unfortunately started showing narcissistic traits in her late teen years and i was already well educated on how to deal with them at that point. She is in her mid 30's now and has very few people left under her control that believe her victim stories.

  • @Marshadow69
    @Marshadow69 6 місяців тому +28

    Calm, assertive, concise and focused - you capture it so well. I have listened to you saying that phrase several times. You deliver this message with such lovely mellifluous tones. Hard not to be inspired. Number 7 would be paradise on earth, even if short lived.

  • @Ellelilly8666
    @Ellelilly8666 6 місяців тому +5

    A whole family of them run by a ringleader next door to me. Extreme bullies.95% of time i completely ignore and trying to work on the other 5%. It annoys them when they dont get a reaction from me but the no reaction brings me peace inside. 🕊️
    Thanks for what you do Darren Magee 💜

  • @todayisareallygreatday.9904
    @todayisareallygreatday.9904 6 місяців тому +43

    Great video, Darren. Yes, I'd love to hear about authenticity. I struggle with emotional dysregulation, am fairly often not the calm person you talked about - at least not yet. But I highly value honesty and more and more doing the right thing over the easy thing and also being authentic. I suspect these are pretty common values of people recovering after being brought up by a narcissistic parent.

    • @user1.8.2.
      @user1.8.2. 6 місяців тому +5

      Yup at least for me.

    • @Alex-vj6wr
      @Alex-vj6wr 5 місяців тому +3

      Very common after being abused

  • @mrsongman
    @mrsongman 6 місяців тому +6

    "I always thought you would be really fair if we broke up...I never really knew you."
    aka
    "I always thought that you would do, think and say exactly what I want and expect you to. Anything that falls below this gold standard is unacceptable."

    • @ForestTiefling
      @ForestTiefling 6 місяців тому +1

      and then YOU're the bitter one for not wanting to "stay friends" or going no contact. Boio, I'd rather get a restraining order than continue being harassed psychologically that way! This situationship was perhaps worse than the "cult" he assumedly had "saved" me from, but apparently I had to learn the lesson (about narcs and lovebombing/hoovering) either way. And am grateful for it, oh yes.
      Like honestly: Don't "teach" someone fallacies and critical thinking if you can't deal with them being applied to yourself as well? Lmao!

    • @cassiebennet4262
      @cassiebennet4262 6 місяців тому

      My sister's husband is divorcing her and this is exactly what I imagine he actually thinks. She is refusing to be absolute doormat without her own thoughts and feelings and he won't tolerate it. Well I hope he's "happy" with his next supply until he isn't. 😡

    • @mrsongman
      @mrsongman 6 місяців тому

      Hopefully the look back and laugh stage isn't too far off. It's usually closer than it seems. @@cassiebennet4262

  • @clairemcmahon9392
    @clairemcmahon9392 6 місяців тому +10

    This video is excellent, full of great info and straight to the point.
    I walked away fro. My Ex Eddie on July after 7 years together I went no contact. I was so sick of his psychological abuse. I never knew why Narcissism was until a few months back but I do now! He is an abuser of women and a predator. It frightens me to think and know as I’ve expressed it, that there are people walking around this Earth with a mask on to manipulate hurt lie cheat and destroy another Human being they profess to Love and care about. They are empty shells void of any kind of healthy emotions. They are vile.

    • @aleciawimer8506
      @aleciawimer8506 12 днів тому +1

      Don’t ignore red flags. Have iron clad boundaries.

  • @LC-qi5ff
    @LC-qi5ff 6 місяців тому +25

    Have you ever heard of a (covert?) narcissist going into isolation and/or attempting suicide because they cant stand that they are narcissistic?

    • @CoddelSobers
      @CoddelSobers 6 місяців тому +21

      They are the worst kind. Every story they tell is of them being a victim or a savior.

    • @MJ-qb5ph
      @MJ-qb5ph 6 місяців тому +7

      Their victims may well contemplate suicide!

    • @johnmills34YT
      @johnmills34YT 6 місяців тому +7

      yes its for attention

    • @ralph4370
      @ralph4370 6 місяців тому +9

      my ex was a covert type. She did a reverse discard on me. But I reversed the card and made her breakup with me at the last minute. Months later I get a voicemail from the local County Mental Health Services. Seems my ex was reaching out at her rock bottom moment. When I met her she lost her job and stuck it out with her. When I lost my job she walked out on me. So I only assume as to the why she got there but hey .....karma?

    • @joannageorge7305
      @joannageorge7305 6 місяців тому

      I doubt it. Though they will use prolonged silent treatment as manipulation, and equally threaten self-harm, even suicide to coerce people into compliance.
      They're too full of themselves to actually do it.

  • @jeffreyjackson5229
    @jeffreyjackson5229 6 місяців тому +7

    "Responsible for their own undoing"- Correct. But still think that's "it's" not that bad.
    In other words, their mentality is, "Yes, but..." or "I know, but..."

  • @elizabethkeller6040
    @elizabethkeller6040 6 місяців тому +2

    In 1992-1994, as a 30yr old single female, working #2 jobs, living in the country, joined the State Rodeo , my bucket was full. Forced to take in sister, her two boys #4×'s in those 2 yrs, I expressed , 'why am I the only one taking this on'? (I was never asked. Just came home to them all moved in). Was told by another sister,''Stop being so selfish. We all have kids and jobs , you have no one to take care of but yourself'. Forward to 1998, I became pregnant with my son, at 35yrs old, this same sister said to me , ' I hope you are not going to burden us with this baby, we've all raised our kids and onto a new stage in our lives'. I am #7 of #8 kids. Baby of #5 girls. Was shocking to the system then. Now. THANK GOD that all happened, kept my son and I away from them. Ya. Not tight with any of them.

  • @LilacSnowBun
    @LilacSnowBun 6 місяців тому +16

    I’d love to hear more about authenticity and narcs. Fantastic video, thank you!!!

  • @SimoneJassmann-jr5bl
    @SimoneJassmann-jr5bl 6 місяців тому +5

    In narcissistic family’s they use a will as leverage although they have no intention of you being in it just away to own you and take it away if you don’t do everything they want including selling out to evil

    • @mvbigmagic4048
      @mvbigmagic4048 Місяць тому

      Yup. When my mother realized I didn't want anything in the house or her money, she started restricting phone calls to my dying dad. They will do ANYTHING to control someone. Since my dad's death January 27, 2024, we are BOTH no longer co-dependent. I am no-contact with my mother.

  • @philosophy_schilling
    @philosophy_schilling 6 місяців тому +14

    This is a helpful articulation: Be a person that others can't control or manipulated. I love that. Thank you so much. I would love to know more about authenticity from your perspective. Thank you.

    • @DarrenFMagee
      @DarrenFMagee  6 місяців тому +5

      I covered it in a live stream recently if you’d find that interesting?

    • @philosophy_schilling
      @philosophy_schilling 6 місяців тому +2

      @@DarrenFMagee Thank you so much! I will look for it. Be well.

  • @artimasartimas4515
    @artimasartimas4515 6 місяців тому +2

    Narcissists are like roaches, they never chill alone .

  • @user-qv9nw1dq2f
    @user-qv9nw1dq2f 3 місяці тому +2

    Authenticity and honesty are great tools to overcome narcissistic abuse. Thank you Darren 😊

  • @beverlystover3987
    @beverlystover3987 6 місяців тому +9

    I would like to learn more about authenticity! I think I gave mine away to many narcissistic folks in my life’s journey.

  • @VioletMcBrideRN
    @VioletMcBrideRN 6 місяців тому +2

    Great video, thank you!.. I have a DIL that has gone a campaign to target me because I had a great relationship with my son. First she isolated him from his very good childhood friends, then she moved on to me and the rest of my son's side of the family. Her weapons of choice are silent treatment, bullying, withholding of affection, triangulation and social media smear campaigns. Stay Healthy and Authentic everyone!

  • @harmonizedigital.
    @harmonizedigital. 3 місяці тому +1

    I feel bad for narcissistic people. They are truly trapped.

  • @apfelstrudel714
    @apfelstrudel714 6 місяців тому +13

    Yep, it all lines up with my MIL’s behavior, and I am outside of her control, now that I have gone no-contact. I learn so much from this channel that I use to manage effectively my interactions with her. Thank you!

  • @sadiestoltzfus9798
    @sadiestoltzfus9798 2 місяці тому +1

    My narcissistic brother can't stand me because he knows he cannot control which makes him angry. Then he manipulates my family into believing it's me not him who is the problem. Sometimes you just have to walk away from the abuse. And the people who accept and make excuses for their behavior.

  • @camdelg1
    @camdelg1 6 місяців тому +2

    As Narc survivor, I'd love to know more about how authenticity helps to get rid of them.

  • @jackilynpyzocha662
    @jackilynpyzocha662 Місяць тому +1

    Dad tells me that he's with others. A private thing(funeral), that only certain people will be there, I am excluded. What a jerk!

  • @jeffreyjackson5229
    @jeffreyjackson5229 26 днів тому

    "Their sense of self is at stake"- I detected that immediately with her actions after I established my boundaries.

  • @spaideman7850
    @spaideman7850 Місяць тому +4

    my malignant narc mom threw anybody she could recruit against me, didn't work. if she knew i had communicated with any of my relative, she will visit that relative and start smear campaign on me. Omg, what have i done in my previous life to deserve this? absolutely horrible.

  • @dinahnicest6525
    @dinahnicest6525 2 місяці тому

    The sheep dipping was completely ineffective because she refused to enter or even visit my world. All her flying monkeys flew around in her own flock. She controlled my access to her friends, and I never found any of them to be worth fighting her for. I just went back to my own friends who barely even knew of her existence.

  • @izawaniek2568
    @izawaniek2568 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Darren. Your description is Spot on! 😊

  • @waqarsaleem1412ah
    @waqarsaleem1412ah 6 місяців тому +10

    Hey, thanks Darren, for this video and the other videos on your channel sir.

  • @MT-tx7bu
    @MT-tx7bu 6 місяців тому +2

    They remind me of a huge net. They try and catch as many admirers as possible, suppliers, really
    They will negatively talk about others. They will make you think they are the kindest, most helpful, most intelligent, most humorous, most victimized, most interesting person and IF you should not agree with it, you are boring and cast out. I say, get cast out. It's peaceful waters.

  • @janebond4175
    @janebond4175 4 місяці тому

    Yes would love to hear more about overcoming a narcissist through authenticity!

  • @user-er1nn9kn8b
    @user-er1nn9kn8b 6 місяців тому +2

    Such a helpful video - thank you 🙏🏻. You describe my husband’s behaviours so accurately

  • @sunshineproductions4122
    @sunshineproductions4122 6 місяців тому +6

    If the catalyst is shame: grew up poor for example - saying the "right thing" get him/her to understand reality. "Of course it must have been so difficult growing up with a single mother who had to work two jobs. You were lonely and you wanted to have your mom there to see all your achievements, so I'm sure you understand that I'm not your mom and punishing me by isolating our child doesn't heal your lifetime of pain & disappointment. "

    • @ForestTiefling
      @ForestTiefling 6 місяців тому +1

      the thing is, there is no understanding! Please be safe, also for the sake of your child, if you go too deep into shame+pain country, you might trigger physicality...

    • @moirosalina
      @moirosalina 6 місяців тому +1

      My guess is it won't help, because for that the person would have to accept that at one point in their life they were vulnarable and helpless. Those feelings, I believe, is what they are running from.

    • @dlewis895
      @dlewis895 4 місяці тому

      TALK FOREVER NEVER GETS ANYWHERE NEVER HOPE YOU HEAR THIS AN ESCAPE .ITS ONE WAY THEIR WAY WITH ENDLESS HELL ENDLESS

  • @dashathehorsegirl7943
    @dashathehorsegirl7943 6 місяців тому +4

    Thank you. Like always, absolutely great video.

  • @TheeyeOftruth-yx2np
    @TheeyeOftruth-yx2np 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much for this Darren, An eye opener, Absolutely tremendous, Peace, love, Respect to you and everyone, Thank you universe 🌝😘🕊🦄🐉👽🌷🌹☘😍🌚🌟😇🎨🖼👁😆⭐🌈🌌💚❤💛💙💜😃

  • @beautypablotamarini7315
    @beautypablotamarini7315 10 днів тому +1

    And after all, sadistic rage turn into beating in head.

  • @dennisryan6370
    @dennisryan6370 6 місяців тому +6

    Truth equals Authentic
    False equals Narcissist
    Jesus IS Truth
    Satan is The Head Narcissist!
    TRUTH ALWAYS WINS😇

  • @yumnom2192
    @yumnom2192 4 місяці тому

    More of these scenario explanations would be awesome! I love this

  • @jvb6547
    @jvb6547 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for so much great info. Yes, I would love to have more information on how authenticity can be effective against their manipulation.

  • @SigmaEmpataLevante
    @SigmaEmpataLevante 6 місяців тому +1

    Magical thinking drives them. All narcissists have a belief system.

  • @SaritWorld
    @SaritWorld 6 місяців тому +4

    Are you sure you are not talking about my narcissist government? Spot on!
    Welcome to Israel.

    • @brendawarner5415
      @brendawarner5415 Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for expressing that . I am angry that the Israeli government is punishing all Palestinians for what Hamas did. I am glad that all Israeli people do not support that.

  • @tanisharichardson4049
    @tanisharichardson4049 4 місяці тому +1

    When they can't control you they try to control how others view you

  • @jeffreyjackson5229
    @jeffreyjackson5229 26 днів тому

    "Their usual tactics don't work."

  • @shannsss4923
    @shannsss4923 4 місяці тому

    They need others more than other need them! Bang on!

  • @gobears6487
    @gobears6487 6 місяців тому +2

    Darren, you clearly know my father! 👍 p.s. yes to more on authentic behaviour

  • @psalm1197
    @psalm1197 6 місяців тому +1

    This was one of my questions. thank you😀

  • @user-ty7yu1bj9l
    @user-ty7yu1bj9l 6 місяців тому

    I really love and appreciate your videos. Thank you.

  • @vantom9836
    @vantom9836 4 місяці тому

    100% agree with authenticity part. Being authentic seems to trigger them and they hate it. They live fake lives based around false masks and selves so they have to try and undermine and disrupt those who have a more authentic sense of self.
    Easier said than done though. Sometimes introspecting is hard for anyone and takes commitment. I feel we all have parts of ourselves we do not like at times. But the more accepting we become of ourselves the less control they'll have over us and their sabotaging will eventually fail and they'll back off.

  • @SaarLeestMee
    @SaarLeestMee 6 місяців тому +7

    Thank you ❤

  • @MarylnBowan-vg7te
    @MarylnBowan-vg7te 4 місяці тому +2

    (FACTS OVA FEELINGS). Narcissism and Codependency r not Personality Disorders they r Adaptive Relationship Strategies

    • @Delphius-
      @Delphius- 5 днів тому

      Are you a narc? lol

  • @stephenatkinson2333
    @stephenatkinson2333 6 місяців тому +1

    They bow down to them. Then they mirror them. Whilst desperately trying to figure out a different approach to regain their control. Poor weak idiots.

  • @michellehill718
    @michellehill718 6 місяців тому +1

    Excellent teaching video! Thank you very much!

  • @soniat4895
    @soniat4895 2 місяці тому

    Narcissist psychopath and sadist are these women that have been imprisoning me in my own body.
    I just asked them to stop and leave me alone. How dare I ask that!
    They did that. They spread lies and accused me. She does become very hostile and agitated.

  • @joanb8489
    @joanb8489 3 місяці тому

    Authenticity explains why my narcissist insisted on trying to control me.

  • @tcancella7286
    @tcancella7286 15 днів тому +1

    Would love the hear more about authenticity vs narcissism

  • @christinemanzella
    @christinemanzella 3 місяці тому

    Hi Darren😊 man did you just help empower me...life changing information for me

  • @amyj.4992
    @amyj.4992 4 місяці тому +1

    They are accusing me of narcissism now while smearing my name 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mj3845
    @mj3845 4 місяці тому

    Really interesting information that I can identify in a family member. Thank you.

  • @SimoneJassmann-jr5bl
    @SimoneJassmann-jr5bl 6 місяців тому

    Thank you again for awesome video

  • @cynthiachristiansen8803
    @cynthiachristiansen8803 3 місяці тому

    Wow, exactly how I'm treated. I have no friends, and are considered the narcissist. He pushes me to expressing rage to prove how horrible I am to him. My children agree with hiss assessment of me. 😢

  • @suzannebunbury2961
    @suzannebunbury2961 6 місяців тому +6

    Thank you! ❤️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @Notbothered1
    @Notbothered1 Місяць тому +1

    They run away.

  • @larasudomlak7128
    @larasudomlak7128 6 місяців тому

    Yes Darren, tactical withdrawal. 🎯

  • @lucf1298
    @lucf1298 5 місяців тому

    Authenticity as a kryptonite to narcissists is an interesting thought.

  • @SuperPassionflower
    @SuperPassionflower 6 місяців тому +2

    thank you!!!!

  • @user-fd7sn3mb3f
    @user-fd7sn3mb3f 6 місяців тому

    My ex to a T!! I have a court ordered app that we have to communicate through because of his post divorce abuse and us sharing a child. He still tries to mess with me…through our kid and in other indirect ways. He can’t stand it that he can’t control me. It drives him crazy

  • @elainesnoek4852
    @elainesnoek4852 6 місяців тому +1

    Please talk about a Narcissist towards there children.
    Thank you so much for your insight...

    • @DarrenFMagee
      @DarrenFMagee  6 місяців тому +1

      I have a playlist on narcissistic families if there’s anything there you’d find interesting?

  • @bumblebee8416
    @bumblebee8416 6 місяців тому +4

    I would certainly be interested in hearing what you say about authenticity ... and perhaps include your views on the much bandied around, 'my truth' and 'your truth' and 'The Truth'.
    ‘My/your truth’ seems to me, to be what a person chooses to believe about something they experience, and it is their perception of that experience that becomes ‘my truth’. It is a choice. Belief, perception and choice can be changed.
    And maybe ‘my/your truth’ can also be a person choosing a certain perception conjured up from fantasy, as a narcissist might do, and none of it has anything to do with truth at all?? A narcissist might believe that they can lie, confuse and manipulate others. So, lies can be a person’s truth too?? Ambiguity! And it’s also a choice, a belief and perception which can be changed.
    Perhaps THE Truth doesn’t have experience, perception, belief, nor any choice connected with it, and it cannot be changed ... it just IS.
    Darren F Magee - you always make me think! And muse. And ponder. And contemplate. And search for understanding. Thank you.

    • @writeousone8749
      @writeousone8749 6 місяців тому

      Excellent analogy bumblebee!
      Best wishes on your road to recovery as on head on mine

  • @shihtzuluvrtwo6386
    @shihtzuluvrtwo6386 3 місяці тому

    You just described my mother in law.

  • @mamitasilva
    @mamitasilva 2 місяці тому

    Thanks❤

  • @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
    @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 2 місяці тому

    Do they know ? They must! I have enabled an older brother narc for years. Done. Still trying to discover what I have done. I am delighted may need to be deprogrammed . Thanks!

  • @mirola73
    @mirola73 6 місяців тому

    My partner has just completely shut down on me (I filed for divorce and are not engaging apart from issues related to the divorce itself).
    Sits in the bedroom all days, walk out if I happen to be in the same area as she is, so childish.
    Suits me fine, I don't have to see / interact with her until she moves out.
    Source wise I've already been replaced as I already knew many months ago realizing what my partner actually is, recently had a glimpse a text, it revealed enough, poor guy has no idea what he's dealing with.

  • @jackilynpyzocha662
    @jackilynpyzocha662 Місяць тому

    I have nil to no-contact with my narcissistic dad. He doesn't notice. His loss of "supply"/control

  • @deborahalden5312
    @deborahalden5312 6 місяців тому

    So true.