The Alien and Predator Iceberg Explained
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- Whoever wins, we lose. Except that's not true because they're fictional creatures. Unless...
Background footage:
• Alien Isolation - All ... - Alien: Isolation (RabidRetrospectGames)
• Aliens: Colonial Marin... - Aliens: Colonial Marines (iampanax)
• Predator Concrete Jung... - Predator: Concrete Jungle (UPlayNetwork)
• Aliens vs Predator All... - Alien vs. Predator 2010 (Gamer's Little Playground)
More info:
screenrant.com/alien-5-joss-w... - article about Whedon's Alien 5
web.archive.org/web/200902160... - article about the Ripley Chronicles
vincentwardfilms.com/project/c... - blog about Vincent Ward's Alien 3
• Aliens: Colonial Marin... - What Happened? video on Aliens: Colonial Marines
• The Predator (2018) - ... - What Happened? video on The Predator
• Alien 3 - What Happened? - What Happened? video on Alien 3
www.vincenzo-natali.com/preda... - art for Vincenzo Natali's Predators
• ALIEN 5 - Cancelled Movie - Supervoid Cinema's video on Neill Blomkamp's Alien 5
• The Operation Aliens C... & • The Probably Mostly Tr... - videos on Operation Aliens
www.screengeek.net/2023/10/08... - article about Prey 2
www.avpgalaxy.net/alien-movie... - article about the Alien 3 hive sequence
• White Hybrid Xenomorph... - Marvelous Videos' on the White Hybrids
• Video - Wreckage and Rage
www.denofgeek.com/games/cance... - article about Hadley's Hope
www.moddb.com/mods/templargfx... - how to fix Colonial Marines
• Aliens: Colonial Marin... - Original Colonial Marines gameplay
• Aliens: Colonial Marin... - unreleased Colonial Marines trailer
• Archie vs Predator (20... - Dannymalt's video on Archie vs Predator
legacy.aintitcool.com/node/22405 - James Cameron on AvP and Alien 5
bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3... & www.avpgalaxy.net/2018/11/28/... & www.predator4-movie.com/topic/... - concept art for The Predator
www.avpgalaxy.net/2023/07/31/... & www.avpgalaxy.net/2023/10/04/... & www.avpgalaxy.net/2023/10/04/... - info on Annihilation
collider.com/arnold-schwarzen... - article about Arnold and The Predator 2018
• [Cancelled] Aliens: Cr... - Crucible gameplay
web.archive.org/web/201910100... - article about Cosmic Hard Bowl
bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3... - article about the Peter Keyes deleted scene
/ 1239116458296213504 - Hadley's Hope design documents
• Mousey's Predator Obse... & • Mousey Loves The Predator - Ironmouse talking about her love for Predators
• Aliens: Colonial Marin... - Colonial Marines documentary
• Tarzan vs. Predator - ... - Marvelous Videos' video on the Tarzan crossover
• Story Of Eloise - Broo... - Marvelous Videos' video on Eloise
www.avpgalaxy.net/alien-movie... - concept art for Neill Blomkamp's Alien 5
• Alien: Blackout - Full... - Alien Blackout longplay
Music (in order)
• [SEGA Genesis Music] A... - Alien 3 (Genesis)
• [SEGA Genesis Music] P... - Predator 2 (Genesis)
• Alien vs Predator - SN... - AvP (SNES)
• Alien 3 - SNES Full So... - Alien 3 (SNES)
• Predator 2 (Game Gear ... - Predator 2 (Game Gear)
• Alien 3 (NES) Music / ... - Alien 3 (NES)
• Alien vs Predator - Th... - AvP: The Last of His Clan (Game Boy)
00:00 - Intro
01:32 - Tier I: Weyland-Yutani
47:06 - Commercial Break 1
47:43 - Tier II: Colonial Marines
01:35:35 - Commercial Break 2
01:36:11 - Tier III: OWLF
2:14:48 - Commercial Break 3
2:15:25 - Tier IV: Project Stargazer
2:53:58 - Outro - Розваги
Like an idiot I accidentally call 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros in the final entry. My bad. Also there's so many links to articles and videos in the description, I ran out of room. Here's the rest of the stuff I wanted to link
ua-cam.com/video/sMjdVhvkso8/v-deo.html - Alien Theory's video talking about the differences between Alien 3 and the Assembly Cut
web.archive.org/web/20121116021457/www.ign.com/articles/2010/07/22/sdcc-10-rodriguez-confirms-predators-2 - Robert Rodriquez on Predators 2
www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/7210/aliens-vs-predator-on-the-gba - gba game announcement
www.indiewire.com/features/general/ridley-scott-alien-artificial-intelligence-1201884993/ - Ridley Scott on Prometheus 3
www.thedailybeast.com/ridley-scott-on-the-martian-his-groundbreaking-1984-apple-commercial-and-prometheus-2 - Ridley Scott mentions Blomkamp's Alien script is done
www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-the-predator-shane-black-steven-wilder-striegel-20180906-story.html and gizmodo.com/the-predator-director-shane-black-defends-hiring-a-regi-1828853155 - articles about Striegel
M y b a d
Lol 😂
Can you do a twisted metal iceberg?
Sorry mate, have to tear it all down and start again after that grevious and unforgivable error.
Your videos always get me through the day working my machining job lol
Not to flex or anything but my Uncle is a Predator
I haven't laughed that hard in a while. thank you!❤😂
Not nearly enough likes on this comment.
Im the 70th like but removed it to keep the 69.
youre a flex offender after that
"Turn around".
My 9 hour shift just started, thank you pigpen
Great timing
Always makes the shift better
Good luck on your shift friend
Mine Starts on Tuesday can't wait
Godspeed soldier
Side note but a "Predator King" is an awesome idea for a counterpart to the Alien Queen. Would love to see that idea revisited
I mean, you kinda get that with the many Predator Clan Leaders and Elders, as a counterpart to the many Alien Queens.
His name is EDP
I think like chief would be a better title since they seem like a tribe more than a monarchy
There is an elder thats it. No kings.
@@rowanwalter6306 Predator trying to abduct the kid in The Predator be like, “Well, I’m actually here for a cupcake.”
I came back to say that you can thank Randy Pitchford for the disclaimer "not actual game footage" at the bottom of certain gameplay footage before a game releases. During Colonial Marines's development, Gearbox would showcase footage that Pitchford repeatedly claimed was in-game, but after the game was downgraded graphically at launch and it was discovered that the footage shown wasn't in the game itself, Gearbox was sued for false advertising and SEGA sued them for misuse of company funds, as the money was meant to be used exclusively for Colonial Marines, like Pigpen says.
Thanks Randy. LOL.
Cameron went from "AvP is going to corrupt the legacy of Alien" to "Let's do 4 more Avatars" real quick lmao
Terminator iceberg would make a really good follow up to this
Really neat video. Thanks for that.
Quick correction: The Colonial Marines game isn't canon and never was. Randy Pitchford tricked some nerd from Kotaku into thinking it was just to hype the game and the guy ran with it, but it's not official lore even though a lot of people think it is and in fact want it to be. Mainline film canon isn't replaced by video games. At least not in Alien.
But again, awesome video.
Greasy Randy being greasy
"Disney pulled out because they believed it the attraction was far too scary for children."
Are you serious? The horrifying monster lurking in the dark, drooling on you, breathing down your neck, was only a problem if it was a xenomorph?
Not got to that part of the video yet
But Disney thought the cosmic horror rape space monster would be ok for an children's attraction for a second ? Amazing
They're happy to promote LGBT so..
Some of your points are explored more in the expanded media. Like Xenomorphs have been shown to express emotions. Warriors and drones have expressed grief when a Queen dies, a Queen was shown emotional distress when being forced to watch her young burn to death. Xenomorphs have shown signs of fear, anger and even personal revenge against certain individual enemies.
They also express enjoyment when “toying” with their prey.
Loved this video, but just thought to mention there is ALOT more explored in expanded media.
A xenomorphs has the personality of a cat. The problem is we are the mouse.
I had no idea Wildlands removed the Pred tie in.
Thus fills me with rage
It was so cool
You NEED more subscribers. You are easily my favourite youtuber who covers icebergs. Your editing, the way you explain things and your voice. Thank you so much for your commitment to your channel!
I think it’s cool that the Predator race exists in Earth 616’s multiverse.
Kinda similar to what DC is doing with the Godzilla vs Kong vs Justice League comic Monsterverse and DC aren’t the same universe but they’re just crossing over the original movie IPs they own with their comic universes
One thing I do have to add: Both Ridley Scott and Alan Dean Foster have stated that the point of David's story was not to depict him creating the Xenomorph. The point of the Prequels was to show Humanity's hubris is not exlusive to humanity.
The Engineer's created the Xenomorphs, thousands of years ago. We know this is this the case, as we see the egg chamber and Spacejockey in Alien, and it's been there for centuries.
David is said to have 'perfected' an 'organism' that the Engineer's feared. That organism wasn't the Deacon, it was the Xenomorph. David's creations are not Xenomorphs, but 'Perfect' Xenomorphs, or 'True' Xenomorphs.
The entire point of that duology is that human's are looking for their creators while creating life themselves, only to find out our creator's don't care about us, they also made monsters, and we see in real time that even OUT creations can build monsters, (David building the New Xeno).
Also, the Xeno mural isn't a mural of a Xeno at all, Scott has confirmed that was a Deacon.
Scott and Foster have explained that the film was intentionally vague, as to leave the viewer in the dark on which came first, the Chicken or the Egg. We aren't meant to know where the Xenos come from, if they're explicitly made by the Engineers, or if they're David's creation. It's Scott's metaphor for the futility of searching for God, because God isn't knowable, and at the same time, he's all around us.
But of course that went over fans heads, and Scott and Foster had to come out and say "Yeah, David just reverse engineered an existing Xeno species that the Engineers built a long time ago."
I can't believe you didn't mentioned Capcom Alien vs Predator.
Based. I missed playing that game.
Just got reminded of The predator (2018) movie’s existence.
Day ruined
And entires like the last one, just adds more fuel to the fire of the train wreck that was The predator
Watch prey to make your day better
This is a certified alien classic!
And predator classic
Nice
@@bullrun2772and sometimes blade runner
You also forgot to mention that when Johnny and Jax are selected to fight one an the other and they have the predator skins they will reenact the you son of a bitch scene in game.🐱
I would kill to see the Attack on Titan iceberg from you. There are a few on youtube, but I think you're the only one who can do justice for this series
I plan on doing one early next year, appreciate the support
I look forward to hearing this guy talk about anything, especially while at work and I have already been on an Alien/Predator kick the past couple weeks so this is awesome thank you Pigpen
To be fair making the alien queen thick is more in line with HRs vision
I need that Queenussy
I don’t know how this man doesn’t have 100k subs he works so hard for our enjoyment.Keep up the good work bro
Been playing Xeno in DBD and revisiting Hunting Grounds with friends again, so this is a perfect timing for this video
Couldn't tell you how happy I was to see that near 3hr mark! You did a great job covering the different comics, was a sweet walk down memory lane. Considering you seem to enjoy this franchise as much as me I'd personally recommend a iceberg covering the Terminator franchise. It's got lots of interesting comics, lore and I haven't seen anyone else make an iceberg for the franchise. I think it would make for an awesome video. Can't wait for the next one!!!
Just wanna say I greatly appreciate the amount of work you put in your videos. I love listening to them when I'm doing chores around the house, or just playing some game that doesn't require you to hear much.
Just came across your channel and blown away by how great of a job you do! Will be singing your praises and spreading the good word!
This is gonna be a good one. Love the videos man.
Thank you for the effort you put into these icebergs!!! I absolutely love obscure knowledge on any topic I like!!!
I'm always so excited to see you upload! ❤
Despite there being alien variants not being canon to the mainline series, what is canon is that similar to Venom and how you can venomize any character, you can alienfy many creatures
w pfp thats the one i used as a kid
I don't normally watch very many icebergs anymore, but yours are so interesting because you're very concise with your commentary but it's still entertaining to listen to. I tend to throw on an iceberg and go for a walk while you bombard me with trivia about topics I don't usually care about. Happy to be subscribed to you, and I hope you have a happy and safe Halloween! 🎃
1:13:17 there is some evidence that Aliens intelligence can be influenced by their original hosts. The Aliens Fireteam Elite tie-in novel, “Infiltrator,” features an alien known as “Monica,” that took on some of the behaviors of its host. It had an affinity for the scientist, Hoenniker (for spoilery reasons I won’t go into,) and would crack its neck in the same way her namesake would.
You mean't. Try to kill him?
I think the biggest piece of evidence for Xenomorph intelligence is in Aliens, when the Queen sneaks aboard the dropship to get onto Sulaco, and then actively attempts to kill Bishop, Newt, and Ripley. Maybe I'm just reading into this too much, but to me, that is not the behavior of an animal acting purely on instinct. That is the behavior of a mother trying to avenge the deaths of her children.
@@occam7382 To add to the Alien Queen's behavior in that same movie; when Ripley first encounters it, the Queen is able to understand and comply with a threat. That's borderline sentient behavior.
@occam7382 Chimpanzees, sibirian tigers, and crows go for revenge. Elephants do it, too, so animals have social traits beside instincts.
Hell yea, chimp justice 😎 🙊
I was looking for something like this 2 weeks ago and finding nothing. You came in clutch with this, man 🔥
Honestly when most channels do iceberg videos I sometimes don't even watch them but i watch every iceberg you do your the king at it
Superb series and you've touched so many salient points very well. Thank you
Thank you for making this❤
21:07 huh, this scene actually got brought back somewhat in Predator 2, I think that's neat.
Working the night shift alone tonight, thanks for great content to keep me company!
Was not expecting an aliens and predator iceberg from pigpen, I know pretty much all of this already because I am an aliens mega fan this will still be an awesome watch, thanks a lot pigpen, goose approved!
Criminally underrated Channel. Best iceberg videos on varying topics to keep it fresh. And the transition videos are cool keep up the good work
Ahhhhhhh, another video to fall asleep to. Keep up the good work, buddy!
Just finished the cyberpunk one and you posted this! Amazing work as always!! As for my favorite movie, I actually liked Alien 3 when i first saw it, granted I was a teenager but I really liked the setting and thought it had a good conclusion. Maybe if I watch it again I'll change my mind but who knows
Thankyou algorithm for giving me new sleep content. Iceberg videos are the best for it
Gotta love putting these on while at work. Keeps the madness at bay.
Liked and subscribed. This video is the best, thank you.
wow. are we actually so far away from 80s pop culture that kids now don't know how to pronounce patrick swayze
Sadly, yes
Sways 😂😂😂
I still liked Prometheus and Covenant, but I feel like their potential was wasted. Especially Prometheus. It was about questions no one asked.
I asked what the Xenomorphs were and where they came from, so somebody did ask them.
Just to comment on whether Xenomorphs are sentient/sapient or intelligent. If I remember correctly it was mentioned in a comic which name totally espaces me right now that when someone was telepathically linked to the Xenomorph hive mind they could feel emotions, but it was basically just a sea of unhinderred rage and primal aggression without any capability to reason. Though technically it could be argued that Xenomorphs are capable of evolving so given enough time they could become intelligent or even sentient if the traits are deemed advantageous for their survival as a species but that's just speculation
have had a rough past few days and could really use a distraction right now, thank you pigpen
You’re always getting me through work with these vids mate!💙
YESSSSS WAKE UP BABE NEW AVP CONTENT JUST CAME OUT
fr though thanks this is a awesome topic, another good one may be hmmm DOOM and its mods and all that (columbine shooters, censorship, creepypasta, etc)
that's the best i got but obviously you're better at finding good topics than me, keep it up man.
‘The Predator’ is maybe the worst film I’ve ever seen and is a disgrace to the franchise and I can’t believe that it would be considered cannon.
The best UA-camr is back again
You're actually the goat, your icebergs help me get to sleep so much better than anything else, it's honestly just so relaxing its like having facts beamed directly into my brain and it helps me focus on one thing instead of my mind wandering
Also I'm a rare alien resurrection enjoyer, i love when the human alien said "its resurrecting time" and resurrected all over Ripley
Great video as always
I'm so sorry I missed this earlier, love you pigpen!!
I have been searching for a very long lore/behind the scenes video for alien or predator to get stoned to, and you provided two in one! Cant wait to binge this
I could have swore that Dutch(voiced by Arnold) mentioning the events of Predator(1987) in his audio logs from Predator Hunting Ground to have taken place in Val Verde
Yeah there's many more instances in the franchise where val verde is name dropped as the location the first film took place in.
Great stuff man
After watching for a while, I’ve noticed a consistent theme is awesome films/cuts of films/TV Shows/ games being cut in favor of worse products. We are in the bad timeline for the alien franchise.
One of my favorite channels on YT
I came here looking for the indepth lore for Alien vs predator and it turned out to be a giant batch of gaggle-goonery.... The fact you put this together even with all this mental turmoil I think you deserve a good nap.
2:28:19 I went on this! I Completely forgot about it until this unlocked that memory. It had the Xenomorph in a tube which escaped, then you'd feel breathing on your neck and other sensory things like water vapour. this was '97 or '98 so I was about 10.
He’s Back! Hell Ya!
We eatin good tonight! Thanks for another great iceberg Pigpen!
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47:11 Oh an alien vs predator toy line I never heard of this growing up, weird I wonder why
47:16 ah...okay yeah that explains why.
I'm surprised to see this in my subscription notifications but alas I'm very, very happy as a die hard fan of Alien and Predator :D
Just finished ur cod iceberg good timing
1:10:44 imagine if instead dying, hank of bb was just teleported to fight in the future against xenomorphs
Tree this is absolutely amazing keep up the great work can’t wait to see more 🔥!
Hey man just finished this video. I would consider a movie length video a Production. You had to look at this up, record ( multiple times) and then edited it all. As someone who has done 5 minute videos, this takes a heck of lot of time. So well done sir I hope you are feeling better.
Always a treat when one of your iceberg vids drops
At this point, I'll watch anything you make! You're so good at this idgaf about Aliens or Predator but you make it so fun to learn about! You can even make an iceberg about TREES and I'll still watch it! Keep up the good work.
It all makes sense if you take it that David was trying to re-create the creature that the Engineers were afraid of.
this vids gonna get me through this double bro 🙏
I love these videos man! I've always been an alien fanboy over predator, although did really like predator 1 and prey, also alien covenant is super underrated and it's sad how many people it seems didn't fuck with it
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The Predator and AVP films are set in the same canon but both are separate from Alien films since Scott's prequels show that Davis is the one who created the Xenomorph and that doesn't really fit well with Predators hunting Xenomorphs for 100s of years before Prometheus happened
So unless time travel is introduced at some point, Blade Runner and Alien could still theoretically exist in the same universe
I love your vids . You always make them interesting!
I always enjoyed the 4Kidz spin-off: "Kid Alien vs Child Predator"
I remember some official Alien timeline in one of the books mentioned “conflicting” in-universe reports about whether the alien in 3 was birthed from an ox or a dog. Maybe it’s been updated since, but at least as of a few years ago they were noncommittal about which cut of Alien 3 is canon.
this is probably one of the coolest videos ever
thank you for making this iceberg 👽
Awesome man, thanks 🙏
Great episode Pigpen, there is also now an in game appearance and reference of the Predator in Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty newest update 2.02.
Whoa
I was gonna take a shower and then I see you just posted this today. Thank you! I'll go grab my Bluetooth headset.
An iceberg on two of my favourite horror franchises growing up? This is gonna be epic boys
How could predator possibly stand up to Wolverine? Predator would be cut to pieces.
Just spent 3 hours listening about two franchises I haven't watched a single movie of. Awesome video tho :v
Great video, would be cool to see an Ace Combat iceberg video
I don't know how educated people could consider them as separate franchises, does the name Weyland-Yutani mean nothing to them??
i love the avp universe a lot :) it was my childhood and watching it still getting some recognition i love it :)))))
Just went to see Alien in theaters last night for the 45th anniversary rerelease. Felt SO good to see it on the big screen. Gave me flashbacks to the great movie ride lol
If i remember correctly, the Alien/Predator universe is canon to predator, but not Alien, right? Like... Alien is definitively its own thing, but also the Alien stuff is canon to predator, but not vice versa? That was how it was explained to me a while back
Exactly
Alien has their own continuity and Predator has it's own wich includes AVP
Alien doesn't includes AVP
I'll be honest, the only films in either franchise I consider canon are the first 2 in each, because after that, sh*t just goes off the rails.
They need to do something with Predator. The lore is too good
Prey released like last year
Good to see you again I love your content!
And yes alien and blade runner do take place in the same universe, ever notice how the walls and ceiling in deckards apt looks like a chamber out of the nostromo alot ,mr scott also said so , i had some super special version of blade runner and he talks about it in some of the special featers
A Civil war predator film would be fucking awesome
i like your The Alien and Predator iceberg Pigpen Happy Halloween 😀😎👍🤘❤🧟♂️🕸🧙♀️🧛🏻♂️🎃
They should do a predator vs terminator
Capcoms Aliens vs Predator brawler is easily my favorite AVP crossover.