While I can understand Sakurai's stance on story content being spoiled immediately as the game releases, it is 2024 and these things just happen. There's no stopping cutscenes or full game playthroughs getting leaked day 0.
@@dragnjames2190 That was one reason he explained why there was trailer cutscenes and not in-game cutscenes, but the actual real reason they don't do them anymore is due to time restraints. It was really costly to have about 50 minutes of animation, which put the squeeze on actual game development, and at the time the reception wasn't enthusiastic enough to warrant a return. However, CGI animation is cheaper and more efficient these days, and if games like Final Fantasy Rebirth can pump out 20 hours of animation, I don't see why Smash Bros. can't throw some budget into 40-50 minutes of cutscenes. Though maybe it has to do with licensing fees? Not sure.
@@TenApplesforTimehonestly it doesnt even need to be cgi, brawl used the in game models and just made prerendered cutscenes with those so they could honestly do the same here
@@TenApplesforTime It couldn't be licensing fees because cutscenes got replaced by advertisements, also known as Fighter Reveals. Which I personally dislike for a variety of reasons. Aside from the obvious fact it replaced cutscenes I also just think they never end up being as good as the cutscenes do because there's no overarching story, and because they're really just glorified advertisements, it ends up having to focus more on the new character getting in, which makes the overall variety of what happens in these videos to be a lot less than the cool stuff that happens in SSE. On top of that, the characters that do accompany the new character either have to be contextually connected (Samus for Ridley, DK and Diddy for K. Rool) or they have to be marketable (again because it's an ad). This causes a lot of reveal trailers (like Ridley's, Steve's, Sephiroth's, and Sora's) to focus on Mario more than any other non-newcomer because he's the most marketable character, and characters who aren't marketable don't get to be in these, like Ice Climbers for example. It's to the point that when Sora's trailer included them for a brief second when the darkness took over, eagle eyed viewers managed to notice that Nana's model was just recolored Popo with no hair difference, which implies they really weren't supposed to appear in these trailers to begin with. It's a real shame when in SSE almost every character, including the unpopular obscure ones, got to be included and be important in some way, with the exceptions only really being characters that were added in late. ROB got to be a full fledged main character with an arc of his own. If this were advertisements, ROB wouldn't even get to appear at all. It's a good thing my favorite character is Kirby because he's very marketable, but that doesn't change how much of a bummer it is to see so many other characters given the shaft in these videos. On top of that though, advertisements are supposed to set an expectation for what will be in the game itself, so advertising the recent games with these gorgeous CGI videos and then having none of that sort of interaction or gorgeous animation in the game inevitably causes some people to be disappointed. I remember being hyped for Dracula's Castle because the trailer showed Luigi running through it's halls and getting attacked by Castlevania enemies, only for the stage itself to be tiny and for none of the enemies to go onstage to hurt you. Not even Death at least, who got quite the spotlight for a background character.
The Brawl stage builder was peak. I remember asking my mom to buy an SD card so I could download custom maps from the internet on the computer and play them on my Wii. I love the building block style that Brawl's stage builder had, the drawn version on Sm4sh didn't hit the same.
Brawl was masterpiece, I agree it was the best in the series. Personally 35-40 playable characters with a massive story mode and tons of extra content is better than 80-90 characters with not much to do outside of vs battles. Brawl was also my first smash game and easily the game I've sunk the most hours into in my entire life. Those sounds are also so damn nostalgic. I also agree that Brawl had the most personality out of all the smash games.
Man you are so right. I got Brawl at midnight on release and went home to play subspace emissary and all the other modes for the next week straight. It was the first smash with netplay, and it was also the best Crossover media experience before our entire culture got engulfed by the concept, which gave it an ethereal luster. Brawl was really something special, you call tell because even as a diehard competitive melee fan who acknowledges Brawl as the death of the competitive magic that Melee had, l STILL love it. And yeah, this video is a 10/10 for me in another way too. I was also obsessed with Ganon because of Oot and twilight princess. One of my fondest memories was going to tournaments and eventually l got top 8 at a regional with him despite everyone in the competitive scene knowing that Ganon was the worst character. My tag was Ganon related. I remember F tilting my friend off the stage and yelling THIS IS SPARTA because 300 had just come out. I relate to this video so much, thanks for making it. Ultimate is great for what it is, being the biggest and most "perfect", but Brawl tripped so Ultimate could sprint. Lol
The point about Brawl being made before we became obsessed with crossover is especially true. The HD titles have transformed Smash into a massive crossover juggernaut that is only really rivaled by Fortnite in terms of sheer quantity of different franchises in a video game. I just feel like something was lost in the transition to Smash 4 & Ult. The hype cycle for Smash felt like it shifted entirely to the big 3rd party reps now that we've gotten all the 1st & 2nd parties mainstays with Ult. ( Still wish we got some actual new Zelda characters from 3D games post Windwaker. BotW Link doesn't count when he's still legacy Link moveset wise. )
I think you got the reason why brawl's roster feels the most special to me (or at least why 4 and Ultimate feel a lot more corporate mandated compared to the 1st 3). It came out before crossovers in media were just EXPECTED, like everyone could say "add so and so as a guest". It INTRODUCED 3rd parties and kept it limited and special. Was the last game to feel like that fun Nintendo all stars palooza. While 4 was fine about it too at first, bringing some of them in through dlc (and that ballot) was a delayed opening of the floodgates for the misery that was Ultimate's dlc run on the community end. It just was the EXPECTATION that they all be 3rd parties, and the fact that some of those 3rd parties were basically Nintendo higher ups telling Sakurai to add them as promotion like Minecraft dude, added to that mandate feeling. And how after the Mario movie folks wanted a cinematic Nintendo universe, speaks to the state of these things now. Something silent but big about the series appeal got lost along the way, not of any fault of the devs per se, but because of the way pop culture itself is years after brawl.
Honestly? I kind of agree. I miss when Smash games prioritized gameplay and actual substantial content just as much as the characters. I would play Melee and Brawl for literal hours back in the day, because they offered more than just characters to keep me engaged. Adventure Modes, Events, Minigames like Target Test... all well thought out for the most part and a ton of fun. Nowadays, though? It just seems like Smash has leaned too far into the hype gaming culture and mainly prioritizes characters and reveal trailers now with everything else feeling like an afterthought, which is why every Smash game since Brawl hasn't really clicked with me. Ultimate was where it became really apparent in my opinion. Yes, it may have every single character that's ever been playable in Smash's history plus some wild newcomers, and while that may seem cool at first, the novelty quickly wears off once you realize that the rest of the game was kind of sidelined for it, such as its incredibly lacking single player content and World of Light being nowhere near as enjoyable as Subspace Emissary. Sure, I want cool new characters just as much as the next guy, but I also want other fun things to do in the game outside of that. Fleshing out the content of a game should be more important than seeing random people on the Internet going crazy over some character getting added to Smash. While the game can still be fun to play, it just feels like Smash has really lost its sense of direction and has resorted to the 'Quantity over Quality' approach, and it's why the series has lost a lot of its magic for me now. Sadly, I can't really see myself getting excited for the next Smash game unless it's a straight-up reboot of sorts, where hopefully the developers can put more time and focus into other areas of the game beyond the characters to make them truly great. After all, Smash isn't just about numbers. Anyway, sorry for the long comment. I just had a lot I wanted to say on the matter.
Personally,brawl was my personal dream game to play in,my whole life,i only had the opportunity to play it in original hardware...not even 4 months ago,it was... A wish done,and i still play alot,despite me doing some things with melee for now since im almost all alone in my plays,and im trying to unlock mewtwo,great,after that i will go back and make legend.
Brawl was my first and favourite smash game. Being a huge sonic fan at the time, I was so hyped to be able to play him alongside other legendary characters.
Man, I've sunk almost 350 hours into this game and I'm still not tired of it. My brother and I also created ridiculous stages in stage builder and we've come up with some interesting concepts, including stages use solely to replicate something we did in a game and needed very specific conditions to reproduce. I've also put hours into the music player too, so you're not alone. It's nice to know I'm not the only one on Earth who still thinks brawl is great.
I grew up with smash 4 on the 3ds and remembered watching poketon96's playthrough of subspace. Needless to say, I would've given up my copy of Smash 4 for the previous title ASAP just to be able to experience the story mode.
I'm happy he let that legend of Zelda victory theme run all the way thru. Man I miss that version of Tink and them theme song. This new in ultimate sucks ahh
Smash Ultimate had way too high a bar to meet because of “Everyone is here” Where the hell are legacy game modes The mainstay of content The longevity It’s nowhere because that is the “ultimate” disappointment that was pushed relentlessly and yet it’s underwhelming and just not what Brawl was capable of delivering Trophies have infinitely more personality to them than Stickers (Spirits just don’t have that same Rizz) and even have detailed info on what those trophies are and the game series they came from.
@@warriorofthegrandline2y618 Yeah, roster wise, ultimate is pretty great but after a couple weeks i didn't go back to it relentlessly even just for solo play like i would melee-4. Hell, i think it's lost in a recent move but ain't even that mad about it tbh, hadn't played in almost a year anyway. Not that I had zero fun, just that it definitely lost a good chunk of the magic of the series outside the actual playable roster, but even though I've been praising that aspect, i definitely have critiques about it too lol.
@@MagillanicaLouM a goated take right here! Thank you for not making me feel alone on this since the only thing that interests me on smash ultimate is the competitive I don’t have a lot to say about Ultimate other than that because the features that made me love smash just weren’t present and I can’t lie to myself about how I feel in regards to that Brawl has more staying power because the features of that game were amazing and the story was just GOD tier as well as the cutscenes and the reveal trailers for Sonic and Snake are among my favourites
Only disagree with the cartoonish characters bit. Everything else stands. I feel that this was the last game with true heart. Ultimate came close but ultimately fell short in a few big areas other than the roster. Great video with great quality!
Brawl was also the last game with a unified artstyle. Smash 4 Wii U deliberately made things clash together which looked kind of jarring. Mario 3D Worldish Mario next to the off model HD Zelda characters looked so bad. Link's face. Ganon's face. Tink's lack of expressions. Kirby had diffuse shading on his body that no other character had. The Pokemon characters were just hd textured versions of the X/Y models. It was a weird hodgepodge of clashing artstyles, some of which were smoother Brawl models. ( Lucas. Wario & Peach. ) The 3ds version looked better with the harsh black outlines and the mostly recycled Brawl models with better colors and more limited expressions to hide the weird deformations and real time lighting that would bug out if you ever so slightly nudge the camera a certain way. Ult fixed the lighting issue and improved it significantly. Speaking of Ult, it tries to blend Melee/Brawl's detail with a better version of 4's lighting and comes out looking slightly washed out because of it. It looks much better than 4, especially thanks to the lighting but it still fails short of the visual unity that Brawl & Melee have.
Nah....Smash 4 and Ultimate were great too, gameplay is obviously better and while Brawl has the better single player...the others aren't all that bad in it. Like if you look at Smash 4 as a COMPLETE package with both versions...you got event mode, master and crazy orders, AND smash run which is pretty freaking addicting tbh. Ultimate has the best version of classic mode and has multiple boss fights and spirit battles can be pretty fun too and heck even WOL is not all bad.
@@ItsOfficiaI I think with Lucas it actually works very well, hell better then most characters in Brawl even, like when he first appears the scene is rather dark and serious which hey fits with his character so I think Brawl's art style actually helped Lucas out.
Cool video, really brought me back to the feeling of playing Brawl free for all matches with friends for entire afternoons. Personally, I dont agree with the notion that Smash (Smash 4/Ultimate) is more so carried by fan speculation of new fighters. As someone who has been playing Smash Ultimate pretty frequently 3 years since the last character was revealed; I feel like Ultimate is carried by its gameplay and sheer volume of characters to play. For me at least. Brawl definitely had the best stage builder and it is damn shame we havent had a grander story told with cutscenes to the scale of the subspace emissary.
17:02 It's really cool seeing what some people were able to do in the coop target smash, but I did feel a little cheated by there only being the generic stages and no custom ones. The wall jumping in melee on Young Link's and Mario's stages was a cool specialization that couldn't be replicated by the Brawl target stages.
Brawl is great if you remove tripping and mk. The freedom of movement and endless air dodges were great. There were many viable characters in the non-mk tier: snake, Wario, Falco, Diddy, ddd, zss, fox, Pikachu, lucario, Rob, ics,
custom stages huh? myself, I made a nasty thing called the death pit. 4 ice cubes, 6 spikes underneath, surrounded by cubes, and entranced by a TALLLLL funnel. so tall, that most characters couldnt get out. it was on this, thing, that me and elf found out about the computer characters self preservation instincts, or lack thereof. see, when they got stuck under the ice, they'd get jabbed by the spikes up into the ice, get slammed back down, get spiked, slam down, up to 500%! me an elf, we'd be outta there in a jiffy, the bots? nah, they're fine. elf thought this was the funniest thing he'd ever seen in smash bros, so he made an even BIGGER death pit. those bots reached 999% easily.
Nah, Melee was the last truly great Smash. Everything else is walking in its shadow and misses its arcadey-punchnyness that the original on N64 pioneered. Brawl gets disqualified on game feel alone, which is a shame because if it had this it probably would be the best Smash game due to the copious amounts of fan service and the (at the time) legendary inclusion of third party characters. The only thing I wish Melee had was co-op and maybe some more characters, but that's all dressing as far as I'm concerned - the most important part (and for a fighting game in particular) is how fun the game is to play at a fundamental level and Melee cannot be beaten here, both at a casual and competitive level. Brawl was the most HYPED Smash game, but that doesn't automatically associate it with quality. One of the primary reasons it was so hyped is due to the fact that Melee itself was so good and beloved that it permeated the general gaming consciousness.
@Lucrei. Wrong. You genuinely just like the fighting. Guess what? Solid fighting mechanics is where you START from. Brawl's fighting may not be as try hardy, but that doesn't make it bad, and on top of that it improves on literally EVERY OTHER aspect of Melee. The roster also fucks hard.
@@ItsOfficiaI "you genuinely just like the fighting" I like a lot more than that in Melee, but I'll humour you and pretend that's true... Turns out that the fighting in a fighting game is well... Very important! Especially when you're comparing and contrasting between games in a series and even more so when attempting to rank them by some overarching core quality It's perfectly fine to say Brawl is your favourite Smash. Is it the best one though? That's a different matter entirely and you're still entitled to that opinion but anyone who disagrees with you can state why they feel What you're arguing is that Brawl is a better experience, which l don't necessarily agree with either (although l understand the reasoning), but I'm saying Melee is a better GAME i.e mechanically So you can say that Brawl improved on all these things over Melee, and in many cases be correct but that still doesn't automatically make it better than Melee when Melee is just so much more fun to play moment-to-moment. As l said Brawl would have been the greatest Smash game if it had gotten the fundamentals right. Sadly it didn't.
@Lucrei. A solid fighting base is where you start from. Brawl's fighting isn't bad, it's just different. That's what I'm saying. Melee is more for the tryhards. For someone more casual like me, I don't find the fighting in Melee as enjoyable, even if I can occasionally feel really good and I whip together a wild combo. Brawl is more consistent in making me feel satisfied with my gameplay. Melee's combat is tighter and has a much larger ceiling. Brawl's is more broad. So yeah, I still prefer Brawl even in gameplay.
@ItsOfficiaI You said why you prefer Brawl over Ultimate and how ultimate focuses on hype, but that doesn't really make an argument for Ultimate not being great. You can prefer Brawl, but making the claim that it's the last great Smash game isn't backed up
Bruh, that completely undermines the point of the video, each smash game had its ups and downs, sure ultimate may be the newest entry, most might play it for such, but some people might enjoy older titles for features that don't exist in the newest entry. Each have their merits.
I was so devastated when I learned they weren't doing anymore story modes with cutscenes. Smash is still fun but it doesn't hit the same.
While I can understand Sakurai's stance on story content being spoiled immediately as the game releases, it is 2024 and these things just happen. There's no stopping cutscenes or full game playthroughs getting leaked day 0.
@@dragnjames2190 That was one reason he explained why there was trailer cutscenes and not in-game cutscenes, but the actual real reason they don't do them anymore is due to time restraints. It was really costly to have about 50 minutes of animation, which put the squeeze on actual game development, and at the time the reception wasn't enthusiastic enough to warrant a return. However, CGI animation is cheaper and more efficient these days, and if games like Final Fantasy Rebirth can pump out 20 hours of animation, I don't see why Smash Bros. can't throw some budget into 40-50 minutes of cutscenes. Though maybe it has to do with licensing fees? Not sure.
@@TenApplesforTimehonestly it doesnt even need to be cgi, brawl used the in game models and just made prerendered cutscenes with those so they could honestly do the same here
@@TenApplesforTime It couldn't be licensing fees because cutscenes got replaced by advertisements, also known as Fighter Reveals. Which I personally dislike for a variety of reasons. Aside from the obvious fact it replaced cutscenes I also just think they never end up being as good as the cutscenes do because there's no overarching story, and because they're really just glorified advertisements, it ends up having to focus more on the new character getting in, which makes the overall variety of what happens in these videos to be a lot less than the cool stuff that happens in SSE. On top of that, the characters that do accompany the new character either have to be contextually connected (Samus for Ridley, DK and Diddy for K. Rool) or they have to be marketable (again because it's an ad). This causes a lot of reveal trailers (like Ridley's, Steve's, Sephiroth's, and Sora's) to focus on Mario more than any other non-newcomer because he's the most marketable character, and characters who aren't marketable don't get to be in these, like Ice Climbers for example. It's to the point that when Sora's trailer included them for a brief second when the darkness took over, eagle eyed viewers managed to notice that Nana's model was just recolored Popo with no hair difference, which implies they really weren't supposed to appear in these trailers to begin with. It's a real shame when in SSE almost every character, including the unpopular obscure ones, got to be included and be important in some way, with the exceptions only really being characters that were added in late. ROB got to be a full fledged main character with an arc of his own. If this were advertisements, ROB wouldn't even get to appear at all. It's a good thing my favorite character is Kirby because he's very marketable, but that doesn't change how much of a bummer it is to see so many other characters given the shaft in these videos. On top of that though, advertisements are supposed to set an expectation for what will be in the game itself, so advertising the recent games with these gorgeous CGI videos and then having none of that sort of interaction or gorgeous animation in the game inevitably causes some people to be disappointed. I remember being hyped for Dracula's Castle because the trailer showed Luigi running through it's halls and getting attacked by Castlevania enemies, only for the stage itself to be tiny and for none of the enemies to go onstage to hurt you. Not even Death at least, who got quite the spotlight for a background character.
The Brawl stage builder was peak. I remember asking my mom to buy an SD card so I could download custom maps from the internet on the computer and play them on my Wii. I love the building block style that Brawl's stage builder had, the drawn version on Sm4sh didn't hit the same.
Brawl was masterpiece, I agree it was the best in the series. Personally 35-40 playable characters with a massive story mode and tons of extra content is better than 80-90 characters with not much to do outside of vs battles.
Brawl was also my first smash game and easily the game I've sunk the most hours into in my entire life. Those sounds are also so damn nostalgic. I also agree that Brawl had the most personality out of all the smash games.
Man you are so right. I got Brawl at midnight on release and went home to play subspace emissary and all the other modes for the next week straight. It was the first smash with netplay, and it was also the best Crossover media experience before our entire culture got engulfed by the concept, which gave it an ethereal luster. Brawl was really something special, you call tell because even as a diehard competitive melee fan who acknowledges Brawl as the death of the competitive magic that Melee had, l STILL love it.
And yeah, this video is a 10/10 for me in another way too. I was also obsessed with Ganon because of Oot and twilight princess. One of my fondest memories was going to tournaments and eventually l got top 8 at a regional with him despite everyone in the competitive scene knowing that Ganon was the worst character. My tag was Ganon related. I remember F tilting my friend off the stage and yelling THIS IS SPARTA because 300 had just come out. I relate to this video so much, thanks for making it. Ultimate is great for what it is, being the biggest and most "perfect", but Brawl tripped so Ultimate could sprint. Lol
@@theol8576 love the way you snuck Brawl's tripping mechanic in there.
The point about Brawl being made before we became obsessed with crossover is especially true.
The HD titles have transformed Smash into a massive crossover juggernaut that is only really rivaled by Fortnite in terms of sheer quantity of different franchises in a video game. I just feel like something was lost in the transition to Smash 4 & Ult. The hype cycle for Smash felt like it shifted entirely to the big 3rd party reps now that we've gotten all the 1st & 2nd parties mainstays with Ult.
( Still wish we got some actual new Zelda characters from 3D games post Windwaker. BotW Link doesn't count when he's still legacy Link moveset wise. )
I think you got the reason why brawl's roster feels the most special to me (or at least why 4 and Ultimate feel a lot more corporate mandated compared to the 1st 3). It came out before crossovers in media were just EXPECTED, like everyone could say "add so and so as a guest". It INTRODUCED 3rd parties and kept it limited and special. Was the last game to feel like that fun Nintendo all stars palooza. While 4 was fine about it too at first, bringing some of them in through dlc (and that ballot) was a delayed opening of the floodgates for the misery that was Ultimate's dlc run on the community end. It just was the EXPECTATION that they all be 3rd parties, and the fact that some of those 3rd parties were basically Nintendo higher ups telling Sakurai to add them as promotion like Minecraft dude, added to that mandate feeling. And how after the Mario movie folks wanted a cinematic Nintendo universe, speaks to the state of these things now. Something silent but big about the series appeal got lost along the way, not of any fault of the devs per se, but because of the way pop culture itself is years after brawl.
Honestly? I kind of agree. I miss when Smash games prioritized gameplay and actual substantial content just as much as the characters. I would play Melee and Brawl for literal hours back in the day, because they offered more than just characters to keep me engaged. Adventure Modes, Events, Minigames like Target Test... all well thought out for the most part and a ton of fun.
Nowadays, though? It just seems like Smash has leaned too far into the hype gaming culture and mainly prioritizes characters and reveal trailers now with everything else feeling like an afterthought, which is why every Smash game since Brawl hasn't really clicked with me. Ultimate was where it became really apparent in my opinion. Yes, it may have every single character that's ever been playable in Smash's history plus some wild newcomers, and while that may seem cool at first, the novelty quickly wears off once you realize that the rest of the game was kind of sidelined for it, such as its incredibly lacking single player content and World of Light being nowhere near as enjoyable as Subspace Emissary.
Sure, I want cool new characters just as much as the next guy, but I also want other fun things to do in the game outside of that. Fleshing out the content of a game should be more important than seeing random people on the Internet going crazy over some character getting added to Smash. While the game can still be fun to play, it just feels like Smash has really lost its sense of direction and has resorted to the 'Quantity over Quality' approach, and it's why the series has lost a lot of its magic for me now. Sadly, I can't really see myself getting excited for the next Smash game unless it's a straight-up reboot of sorts, where hopefully the developers can put more time and focus into other areas of the game beyond the characters to make them truly great. After all, Smash isn't just about numbers.
Anyway, sorry for the long comment. I just had a lot I wanted to say on the matter.
your opinions about cartoonish characters are hater shit But I do like this video overall and agree
Same lol
Personally,brawl was my personal dream game to play in,my whole life,i only had the opportunity to play it in original hardware...not even 4 months ago,it was... A wish done,and i still play alot,despite me doing some things with melee for now since im almost all alone in my plays,and im trying to unlock mewtwo,great,after that i will go back and make legend.
Dude has a big ol' crush on Ganondorf
@@SwiftAsTheWind Twilight Princess Ganondorf.
I love these Super Smash Brothers games!
That’s a bold title lmao.
@@takodacorliss5838 thank you.
Not really, he's just saying the truth.
Brawl was my first and favourite smash game. Being a huge sonic fan at the time, I was so hyped to be able to play him alongside other legendary characters.
Man, I've sunk almost 350 hours into this game and I'm still not tired of it. My brother and I also created ridiculous stages in stage builder and we've come up with some interesting concepts, including stages use solely to replicate something we did in a game and needed very specific conditions to reproduce. I've also put hours into the music player too, so you're not alone. It's nice to know I'm not the only one on Earth who still thinks brawl is great.
I grew up with smash 4 on the 3ds and remembered watching poketon96's playthrough of subspace. Needless to say, I would've given up my copy of Smash 4 for the previous title ASAP just to be able to experience the story mode.
Does anyone else now want to see It'sOfficial do some Legend of Zelda content now?
I'm happy he let that legend of Zelda victory theme run all the way thru. Man I miss that version of Tink and them theme song. This new in ultimate sucks ahh
Smash Ultimate had way too high a bar to meet because of “Everyone is here”
Where the hell are legacy game modes
The mainstay of content
The longevity
It’s nowhere because that is the “ultimate” disappointment that was pushed relentlessly and yet it’s underwhelming and just not what Brawl was capable of delivering
Trophies have infinitely more personality to them than Stickers (Spirits just don’t have that same Rizz) and even have detailed info on what those trophies are and the game series they came from.
@@warriorofthegrandline2y618 Yeah, roster wise, ultimate is pretty great but after a couple weeks i didn't go back to it relentlessly even just for solo play like i would melee-4. Hell, i think it's lost in a recent move but ain't even that mad about it tbh, hadn't played in almost a year anyway. Not that I had zero fun, just that it definitely lost a good chunk of the magic of the series outside the actual playable roster, but even though I've been praising that aspect, i definitely have critiques about it too lol.
@@MagillanicaLouM a goated take right here!
Thank you for not making me feel alone on this since the only thing that interests me on smash ultimate is the competitive
I don’t have a lot to say about Ultimate other than that because the features that made me love smash just weren’t present and I can’t lie to myself about how I feel in regards to that
Brawl has more staying power because the features of that game were amazing and the story was just GOD tier as well as the cutscenes and the reveal trailers for Sonic and Snake are among my favourites
Only disagree with the cartoonish characters bit. Everything else stands. I feel that this was the last game with true heart. Ultimate came close but ultimately fell short in a few big areas other than the roster. Great video with great quality!
And like I said, that was a more personal gripes. Not an objective flaw.
Brawl was also the last game with a unified artstyle.
Smash 4 Wii U deliberately made things clash together which looked kind of jarring. Mario 3D Worldish Mario next to the off model HD Zelda characters looked so bad. Link's face. Ganon's face. Tink's lack of expressions. Kirby had diffuse shading on his body that no other character had. The Pokemon characters were just hd textured versions of the X/Y models. It was a weird hodgepodge of clashing artstyles, some of which were smoother Brawl models. ( Lucas. Wario & Peach. ) The 3ds version looked better with the harsh black outlines and the mostly recycled Brawl models with better colors and more limited expressions to hide the weird deformations and real time lighting that would bug out if you ever so slightly nudge the camera a certain way. Ult fixed the lighting issue and improved it significantly.
Speaking of Ult, it tries to blend Melee/Brawl's detail with a better version of 4's lighting and comes out looking slightly washed out because of it. It looks much better than 4, especially thanks to the lighting but it still fails short of the visual unity that Brawl & Melee have.
Nah....Smash 4 and Ultimate were great too, gameplay is obviously better and while Brawl has the better single player...the others aren't all that bad in it. Like if you look at Smash 4 as a COMPLETE package with both versions...you got event mode, master and crazy orders, AND smash run which is pretty freaking addicting tbh. Ultimate has the best version of classic mode and has multiple boss fights and spirit battles can be pretty fun too and heck even WOL is not all bad.
@@ItsOfficiaI I think with Lucas it actually works very well, hell better then most characters in Brawl even, like when he first appears the scene is rather dark and serious which hey fits with his character so I think Brawl's art style actually helped Lucas out.
@@Jdudec367 I'm not saying it doesn't work I'm saying I don't like it.
Cool video, really brought me back to the feeling of playing Brawl free for all matches with friends for entire afternoons. Personally, I dont agree with the notion that Smash (Smash 4/Ultimate) is more so carried by fan speculation of new fighters. As someone who has been playing Smash Ultimate pretty frequently 3 years since the last character was revealed; I feel like Ultimate is carried by its gameplay and sheer volume of characters to play. For me at least.
Brawl definitely had the best stage builder and it is damn shame we havent had a grander story told with cutscenes to the scale of the subspace emissary.
17:02 It's really cool seeing what some people were able to do in the coop target smash, but I did feel a little cheated by there only being the generic stages and no custom ones. The wall jumping in melee on Young Link's and Mario's stages was a cool specialization that couldn't be replicated by the Brawl target stages.
tripping invalidates everything u said 🥱
That’s why pm is actually the best smash game
We play without tripping these days lmao.
Saying your comment is invalidated invalidates your comment.
Smash Remix is my dream game come true
Brawl is great if you remove tripping and mk. The freedom of movement and endless air dodges were great. There were many viable characters in the non-mk tier: snake, Wario, Falco, Diddy, ddd, zss, fox, Pikachu, lucario, Rob, ics,
custom stages huh? myself, I made a nasty thing called the death pit. 4 ice cubes, 6 spikes underneath, surrounded by cubes, and entranced by a TALLLLL funnel. so tall, that most characters couldnt get out. it was on this, thing, that me and elf found out about the computer characters self preservation instincts, or lack thereof. see, when they got stuck under the ice, they'd get jabbed by the spikes up into the ice, get slammed back down, get spiked, slam down, up to 500%! me an elf, we'd be outta there in a jiffy, the bots? nah, they're fine. elf thought this was the funniest thing he'd ever seen in smash bros, so he made an even BIGGER death pit. those bots reached 999% easily.
you guys just robbed sakurai seriously
Based and redpilled.
Hey, it's the game people only care about because of Subspace
@@SonicTheCutehog facts
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Awesome video as always! I don’t agree that brawl is the best one tho. Have to disagree.
@@Grounded4life23 You don't have to agree. :)
Melee better
I love this game and it was my first smash. I prefer Smash 4 and Ultimate.
Heheh you're welcome
Nah, Melee was the last truly great Smash.
Everything else is walking in its shadow and misses its arcadey-punchnyness that the original on N64 pioneered.
Brawl gets disqualified on game feel alone, which is a shame because if it had this it probably would be the best Smash game due to the copious amounts of fan service and the (at the time) legendary inclusion of third party characters.
The only thing I wish Melee had was co-op and maybe some more characters, but that's all dressing as far as I'm concerned - the most important part (and for a fighting game in particular) is how fun the game is to play at a fundamental level and Melee cannot be beaten here, both at a casual and competitive level.
Brawl was the most HYPED Smash game, but that doesn't automatically associate it with quality. One of the primary reasons it was so hyped is due to the fact that Melee itself was so good and beloved that it permeated the general gaming consciousness.
@Lucrei. Wrong.
You genuinely just like the fighting.
Guess what? Solid fighting mechanics is where you START from.
Brawl's fighting may not be as try hardy, but that doesn't make it bad, and on top of that it improves on literally EVERY OTHER aspect of Melee.
The roster also fucks hard.
@@ItsOfficiaI "you genuinely just like the fighting"
I like a lot more than that in Melee, but I'll humour you and pretend that's true...
Turns out that the fighting in a fighting game is well... Very important!
Especially when you're comparing and contrasting between games in a series and even more so when attempting to rank them by some overarching core quality
It's perfectly fine to say Brawl is your favourite Smash. Is it the best one though? That's a different matter entirely and you're still entitled to that opinion but anyone who disagrees with you can state why they feel
What you're arguing is that Brawl is a better experience, which l don't necessarily agree with either (although l understand the reasoning), but I'm saying Melee is a better GAME i.e mechanically
So you can say that Brawl improved on all these things over Melee, and in many cases be correct but that still doesn't automatically make it better than Melee when Melee is just so much more fun to play moment-to-moment.
As l said Brawl would have been the greatest Smash game if it had gotten the fundamentals right. Sadly it didn't.
@Lucrei. A solid fighting base is where you start from. Brawl's fighting isn't bad, it's just different. That's what I'm saying.
Melee is more for the tryhards. For someone more casual like me, I don't find the fighting in Melee as enjoyable, even if I can occasionally feel really good and I whip together a wild combo.
Brawl is more consistent in making me feel satisfied with my gameplay.
Melee's combat is tighter and has a much larger ceiling. Brawl's is more broad.
So yeah, I still prefer Brawl even in gameplay.
@@ItsOfficiaI we have diametrically opposed views on the topic
All the best and good luck with your channel 🙂
8:12
What makes Ultimate not great?
@@AxeMain it's all in the video.
@ItsOfficiaI You said why you prefer Brawl over Ultimate and how ultimate focuses on hype, but that doesn't really make an argument for Ultimate not being great. You can prefer Brawl, but making the claim that it's the last great Smash game isn't backed up
No it’s not bitcchhhh. Smash Ultimate is the best entry and the only masterpiece. The other entries were severely flawed.
he has very valid points, i personally pick brawl over ultimate any day
@@smashpax5963 no valid points whatsoever as Ultimate improved on every category Brawl fell short on.
Bruh, that completely undermines the point of the video, each smash game had its ups and downs, sure ultimate may be the newest entry, most might play it for such, but some people might enjoy older titles for features that don't exist in the newest entry. Each have their merits.
@@DanielMazahreh in your opinion
@@smashpax5963 Fact backed by in-game evidence. Your standards on polish and genius game design and controls are low.