now again, but faster. Also: Mewtwo can be unlocked in 4 hours if you do 4 controllers and Lightning Melee. Even faster if you grind the 700 vs. matches, you can do it in under 2 hours.
You "forgot" the Mario and Yoshi and Samus Unmasked Trophies. All you need is a plane ticket to Japan and a time machine to get back to around 2002-2004
@@cashnelson2306it only is if you haven’t heard how many games would later use the tech demos ideas in the future, mainly Mario Galaxy and Pikmin Granted it’s kinda hard if you don’t know what it’s referencing especially as an kid who never saw the demos to go “Oh haha Mario 64 X 2 great joke”
Never going to forget the time when my brother was showing me the Master Hand glitch for the first time, then did Event 51 with Master Hand, beat it and then saw the message "You beat Event Match 51, The Showdown, with no falls!" and I'm like "THE GAME ACKNOWLEDGES THAT!?"
@@TheNaturalGamer1 Can you at least use a smarter sounding phrase for that instead of the 1st grade reading level version a certain annoying orange popularized? "Tabloid lies", or "yellow journalism", or "slander", or anything else really. Raise the bar for yourself a bit.
To add to this, I think the other 2 messages are clearing Classic and Adventure on Very Hard with a stock of 1. So assuming you got the 10K bout message, your missing messages would be: 4,995 bouts 50K bouts 100k bouts 1M bouts Event Match 51 without falling Classic Very Hard 1 Stock Adventure Very Hard 1 Stock And All-Star Very Hard, since I missed if you did that. I don’t think there’s a trophy associated with it.
Wait so you fail once… and thats it? Its impossible to get after? What do you mean in one life? Like if I fail to complete it, the message is unobtainable from then without hacking
That was fun. I figured it was a hoax, but I tried anyway. Got to 12 with Marth by exploiting the dumb AI with ledge shenanigans. That took forever though and I gave up.
That wasnt Game Informer; that was EGM in their May 2002 Issue. It was one of their famous April Fool's Issue pranks; akin to Simon Belmont in TMNT2 in the May 1990 issue; the Mushroom Kingdom Hearts article in the May 2005 issue I think; the famous Sheng Long pair regarding Street Fighter II: World Warrior and III: New Generation in May 1992 and May 1997 Issues.
That makes a degree of sense. Also beating the level with the clock changing the results is potentially a reference to the original. SMB game where based on the last digit of your time, you got different amounts of bonus fireworks.
I know this sounds made up but I erased my melee save as a kid once, loaded melee again an got the Birdo trophy immediately. (you start out with one random trophy and that happended to be Birdo)
Yo this happened to me too! My memory card somehow got corrupted and formatted as kid. And the first trophy we got Restarting melees was the birdo trophy and unlocked the map. Me and my sibling were so hyped about this lol
"Who is playing the game with items on?" Bro this is a game where Donkey Kong fights Samus, I don't think Sakurai intended for it to be a highly sweaty competitive game.
They could have always released a smash game without any of the interesting stuff if they REALLY wanted to “cater to the fans,” who I’m sure are only competitive plebs who hate 90% of the maps made despite all the love and care they put into them
Came here to comment this. Had literally lost track of how many coins I had when I stopped playing. I know I saw several of thoer messages bur don't think I ever got to1,000,000. Hooking up your game cube in a college dorm and having friends tag in and out as they went back and forth from classes helped a bunch. Especially since we'd usually have all 4 slots filled and tended to play only with items.
7:48 "Super Mario 128 was a codename for two different development projects at Nintendo. The name was first used in 1997 for a sequel to Super Mario 64 for the 64DD, which was canceled. The name was reused for a GameCube tech demo at the Nintendo Space World trade show in 2000." - Wikipedia
The completionist also didnt even bother to 100% any game when i attempted to watch him. But I also could only skim through the video due to the incredibly forced reddit tier mcu viewer humor in his videos being genuinely painful to me
@@owennelson5814 even though yes it would take ages, the idea would be to run stamina mode for 1 v 3 humans and have the 1 just run off the side of the stage
Fun fact: You can also unlock Marth by simply just playing VS mode with the default 14 characters. You don't necessarily have to play Classic or Adventure Mode to get him. This was always how I unlocked Marth when I was a kid. I would always just play VS mode and play a 1 stock match while turning the handicap down for the CPU to make it go faster
The thing about Melee's completion absurdity is that it's not really intended to be done in one go, but to be done over time, that's how you get 1000 vs matches, just by playing a lot. Having said that, the Mewtwo requirement is unexcusable
So I randomly saw this video in my recommended feed, thought -hey that looks interesting! And as I click I'm greeted by one of my remixes. Thank you for the shout out, and for the awesome content!
Back in high school my friends and I stumbled across an infinite damage glitch in Melee. It was a three person match. Donkey Kong grabbed Falco, and Pichu proceeded to jab him. Falco was unable to break out of the grab, and the jab never ended. It was wonderful.
I remember looking at what was required for getting every trophy a long time ago, probably a few years after the game came out. When I saw the list of match bonuses, I knew I was never going to have every trophy.
When melee came out it was unlike anything else I played at this time, the music, atmosphere, and lore it deserves to make you think about life and uniqueness and progress. Definitely a very well crafted series.
Math major here The probability of getting a new trophy with doing 1 coin 20 times is about 97% (Assuming consistent odds like a rolling a die) so technically, statistically, using 20 coins is better odds for getting a new trophy BUT doing the 1 coin also means you can get multiple new trophies in fact you theoretically could get 20 new trophies... it's just that your odds are about 0.00000000000003%
You'll learn about Expected Value in your statistics class, where we can calculate the average "Trophies per Coin" and see, statistically, what's the optimal amount to spend. The formula here isn't bad: E[spending n coins at once]/n = (% chance with n coins) / n Supposing we start with an X% chance and add 5% per extra coin (according to the wiki), we get E[1 roll @ n]/n = (X + .05*(n-1))/n = 0.05 + 1/n*(X-0.05) Looking at this, we can deduce three cases about X (the % chance with one coin) - X>0.05 : the adding term is positive but being reduced as n increases, it's best to use one coin - X=0.05: the adding term vanishes, so all coins have the same expectation - X
Can you clarify exactly what percentage you’re working with there? Not a math major, but using the 20% odds of a new trophy (as given at 40:07) that seems to me that you should average out to 1 new trophy for every 5 coins spent. (Again, pretending the odds don’t get worse each time you get a new trophy, which of course they do) With that perspective, you should average out to 4 new trophies by spending the 20 coins 1-at-a-time instead of in a lump sum. At 40:24, the video discussed a 16% chance of a new trophy for each coin used, sooo… At 16% per single coin instead, it’s a bit messier, but dividing 100 by 16 is 6.25; so you average out to 1 new trophy for every 6.25 coins spent. With these odds, I think you’re most likely to average 3.2 new trophies for every 20 coins spent.
@@Dash123456789Brawl It's not that you're wrong, we're just looking at 2 different measurements For me, I am looking at the chance of getting *at least* one trophy. There are still the chances of more, but those are the odds for getting at least 1 What you are doing is looking at average which is a different measure, where you're looking at the 20% each time, so on average, it will be 4 (Which fits with the "at least one) So, put more simply You have a better chance of getting 1 trophy using 20 coins, than 1 coin 20 times, BUT you can ONLY get 1 trophy that way Doing it one coin at a time you are less likely to get 1 (or more) but you have the probability of getting more than one TLDR: Yeah doing 1 coin is more optimal, I just like math :P
@@sammysamlovescats Alright, thanks for clarifying! I thought you concluded that 20-at-once was better in your earlier comment; probably my own misunderstanding.
*And now theres an ACTUAL 100% achievement list that has 330+ achievements over at RetroAchievements and yes getting all 290 trophies is included as well as completing all-star on very hard with no continues.*
I didn’t play Melee back in the day, but god damn this makes the other Smash game 100% completions look like a cakewalk. Also fun fact, there were actually two trophies only available from an event in Japan and can now only be obtained by hacking (the Mario & Yoshi and Samus Unmasked trophies)
Thanks for making this video, it was really nostalgic to relive all of these achievements. The internet was still young in 2001 so information was really hard to get on how to unlock everything, and even methods that are now well known were up in the air to being true or not. I played Melee so much from the time of its release until Brawl came out on the Wii that getting the 4995 matches message came naturally, though I never ever came close to getting 1 million.
Honestly, if you play the game semi regularly since you are a kid on the same hardware for more than 20 years, you get every achievement and every message. I still remember the time from 8 to 12 years old when we were just messing around in the game and trying out random stuff and some things we saw in some UA-cam videos. I also remember the sweaty nights playing 1on1s stoned as hell when I was at university.
Luigi is my main, but I enjoy messing around on Icicle mountain because of the ice combined with Luigi's slipperiness. Also, you can defeat a Parakoopa with anyone if you use grab. You pick up the Parakoopa and then can throw them to one-hit kill them to get the bonus. (I'm not 100% sure if tether grab characters can grab a Parakoopa, though) I eventually got all of the trophies over the course of 5 years or so when I was young.
Mr. Game & Watch was the character that WON me over the moment I unlocked him. It was like playing a vintage cartoon character that was a love letter to a man's legacy very important to Nintendo's history.
I think all I was missing in completing Melee back in the day was Diskun and Captain Olimar. It wasn't quite so bad back in the day. I had 2 or 3 Gamecube cames for the first few months of owning it, and spent a lot of time playing Melee with friends, haha
Space Travelers makes sense because in Ness’s home game Earthbound, the one of the main threats in the game are aliens like the starmen, so in this Smash event Ness is fighting characters from different planets to defend earth.
@@OurTakeYTI mean captain Falcon technically didn’t have to be part of it since he’s still technically a human, but Fox and Falco are animal aliens, Kirby is.. something it’s unclear what exactly he is (no he’s not a star warrior that’s just a title) and Samus is part Chozo and Metroid after Metroid fusion.
I unlocked all the trophies as a kid watching this makes me shocked I put up with all of this. and yet I am super nostalgic about it, one of my favorite gaming memories is an 8-year-old me and my dad sitting down with a list printed out on paper from GameFAQs with everything listed out for diskun, and me getting so excited when I got the sheriff achievement. I wonder if that save file still exists?
The mario 128 is a reference to the gamecube demo “game” from when they where showing off the gamecube called “Mario 128”. It would later become Pikmin.
Man, being a seven year old playing this all hours of the night with friends was wild. I remember when we got the warning that MewTwo was coming. We handed the controller to the best player since all of us were too excited and scared to try ourselves.
The main thing I've learned is that you really like spongebob and should 100% all the spongebob games. Additionally, the reason pichu had to be bred to be obtained in the pokemon games is because they were all slaughtered in smash so there's no more pika babies. You sir, are a monster.
I used to travel back and forth from my home town to the city I currently live in, and I would always crash at my friends' place. We would always play melee, and I grinded to get 100% on their file. It took like 3 years.
Super Mario 128 was also the name of a tech demo created during the development of the Gamecube. It rendered 128 Marios running around to show the power of the console and it inspired/eventually became Pikmin
Excellent video. I usually don't take chances on lower viewed suggested videos, but I'm glad I clicked this. And I see its views going only up! Keep it up man
Super Mario 128 was a tech demo for the game cube. It featured 128 Mario’s preforming different task to show of the capabilities of the GameCube. So I believe that It was actually an ester egg reference to the tech demo, but the tech demo was most likely a reference to Mario 64 because, like you said, 128 is double 64. So in a way it is a reference to Mario 64.
@@FerinitheBloodHusky When someone thinks "Smash", they tend to ONLY think about the way that community plays it. That's not what Nintendo wanted, given the direction they took with Brawl, to spite the Melee community. Nintendo did the worst thing ever when it came to Ultimate - they CAVED and let the competitive community's ruleset be used at their events rather than the items and hazards they were doing at their own things. It's one thing for the grassroots community to do their own thing but Nintendo's events should not be following that - there's no longer a reason to watch as there's nothing different there
@@FerinitheBloodHusky He implies that only babies play with items on, but it's ironically the exact opposite. Only _cowards_ play with items _off._ Imagine playing Smash Brothers but literally being so insecure that you have to turn off several core mechanics because you can't think on your feet. Competitions would be a lot more interesting if it wasn't always the same two or three people winning.
@@Wendy_O._Koopa Funny because I enjoy how randomness can affect the game, like the random crits in Team Fortress 2. Turn off any sense of randomness and... well, you said it best.
Also came from the algorithm, this stuff is really well made. Something to note, I remember a top Melee player (I think Leffen?) tweeted that they got either the highest battles message or the 100k one, so in theory you could 100% on his copy specifically, or maybe a few other top players’. I imagine Cody for example would absolutely be able to truly 100% this game if he wanted to.
As a horrible, terminal completionist, this is exactly the kind of thing I am looking for both in a video & in a game. I can never get Melee, because I would hate every day I was not grinding out that final message, almost as much as I'd hate every day I was.
It's only a million matches, could set it to super sudden death settings or mega speed and jump off the edge; can get like 3 completions a minute or more, put in 5-10 minutes a day as part of your routine, should be done in less than a year even with lots of missed days! :D
People don't play with items on!? It's SO much more fun. one of the things I love about the game compared to other fighting games. I enjoy random elements like that
Great video! Idk if you've made videos somewhere else but this video is well polished. Shocked you only have 29 subs. Good luck if you continue to make videos!
Thank you for making this video about Melee. Makes me happy that people still talk about it. Also my main is also the one and only Falco too and Yoshi’s Story is good. I don’t have a number one favorite but perhaps it’s this one maybe lol.
Mr. Game and Watch has been my main since Melee, and it's been great seeing him getting more and more powerful with each game. Favorite stage as a kid was Onett because of the music and the Ramen food item lol.
i love finding interesting videos like this in my recommended feed. Especially when I click on and see that it's from a pretty small channel. Excited to see more from you guys, certainly! Fantastic quality, good editing, fantastic vocal clarity- y'all are checking off all the boxes!
Thank you so much! We really appreciate the support and if there is anything you think we should try or do to improve just let us know! We are all ears
What’s crazy is I did all of this casually as a child when I was 5-12 with my friends and myself. I got Pikmin and melee and a GameCube basically when it was released
I really appreciate the attention span we had as kids back in the day. I got 100% of this game as a kid from just playing hours and hours and hours of this game, and loved every minute of it.
You can actually kill with luigis taunt, by setting a handicap of 9 for luigi and 1 for the enemy, while also having the damage ratio set to 2.0 in super sudden death.
It's clear a lot of these trophies and achievements were meant to be cleared over a long, long time. With many, many multiplayer matches with other people, not just solo play.
Soooo i think my eyes played a trick on me inthought this video was gonna be like 14 minutes when i clicked it (probably the outside xtra video next to it on the screen) but i really sat here for an hour watching your video on my phone while scrolling through the comments and american dad played 2.5 episodes on hulu in the background. i only noticed because my daily text message from the bank that pops in between 5-6am just showed up and now i have to evaluate my life choice 😂 good video
I remember unlocking Ganondorf without the event. You just have to do an obscene amount of vs matches. Absolutely worth the time to get, and has been my main ever since.
you don't even need 4 controllers to get mewtwo faster, just plug your one controller into each port to select the characters, then let the match play out. Edit: No you can't
10:50 You called Roy, son of Eliwood and his Burning Blade. But his sword is actually the Binding Blade. The Burning Blade I believe you were referring to is actually Eliwoods sword, The Blazing Blade
BOO FRIGGIN' HOO! "It took me one hour!" "Who plays with items?" Kids who want to have fun! A falco-final-destination-no-items guy would make this video.
Found this video randomly. Excellent work on this one! There was one thing I haven't seen anyone mention yet in the comments though. You can defeat any Adventure Mode enemies with any character (including Koopas and Paratroopas) just by grabbing them (not like an item, but with Z) and tossing them afterwards. It's actually faster to do that then just pummeling them especially the Hyrule and Icicle Mountain enemies. As for Tom Nook, I remember seeing "1,000 Coins" in my Nintendo Power Guide and thought the same thing about Coin Matches.
@@OurTakeYT Probably the thing more taxing than getting 1,000 Lottery Coins is the "Hammer Throw" Bonus. I remember spending countless hours on Brinstar taking an acid bath just for a chance to throw the thing, seemingly doing it, only to not have the Bonus at the end of the match. I did get it eventually and the Diskun Trophy, but it felt like a hollow victory given the frustration involved.
Are you sure you cant unlock toad? Just saying the only time every name in melee was hit in the credits was just a bit ago (look up a video for it) and if you think about it no one has met the criteria you set 😳👀
now again, but faster.
Also: Mewtwo can be unlocked in 4 hours if you do 4 controllers and Lightning Melee. Even faster if you grind the 700 vs. matches, you can do it in under 2 hours.
Thanks for comments and thanks for being so awesome!
@@OurTakeYT you're welcome, thanks for the kind words so congratulations on the video doing well.
Was enjoying the video until the AI art jumpscare, do better
@@OurTakeYTchange you’re goofy ahh ai pfp
@@uhhhCheese timestamp?
Imagine if the message for 1,000,000 matches was "Keep going! You're halfway there!" just to troll the player.
I can imagine Electronic Gaming Monthly doing that for April Fools
That DOES Seem like a samurai thing to lmao
@@HeheHoohooosame
@@HeheHoohooothose darn samurai with their katanas and miving goalposts
i hate how the goalposts mive they make md so mad@@magicfish8213
You "forgot" the Mario and Yoshi and Samus Unmasked Trophies. All you need is a plane ticket to Japan and a time machine to get back to around 2002-2004
Or a GameShark or some other cheat hack to unlock them.
@@ultraspinalki11 I mean you can unlock everything and anything that way so it's hardly worth mentioning
Action Replay/ Games hark was really the only way to get these.
Let me hop in my DeLorean to make this part of the run possible
Ace?
Super Mario 128 is actually a reference to a Gamecube tech demo at NSW 2000 before the Gamecube was out
Ohh heard! Thank you for the information :)
That this isn’t common knowledge makes me feel old as hell
@@cashnelson2306it only is if you haven’t heard how many games would later use the tech demos ideas in the future, mainly Mario Galaxy and Pikmin
Granted it’s kinda hard if you don’t know what it’s referencing especially as an kid who never saw the demos to go “Oh haha Mario 64 X 2 great joke”
Didn't that end up becoming Pikmin?
@@browncow5210 the tech of that was used on a lot of gamecube games but pikmin was the big one yea
Never going to forget the time when my brother was showing me the Master Hand glitch for the first time, then did Event 51 with Master Hand, beat it and then saw the message "You beat Event Match 51, The Showdown, with no falls!" and I'm like "THE GAME ACKNOWLEDGES THAT!?"
You ever seen the black hole glitch?
Can that glitch break your GameCube?
@@PacDino11 I did it probably 50 times growing up. Occasionally would freeze the game but it was fine on a restart.
Reminder that the 100,000 vs match message tells you straight up "go outside"
You are right! it does say that lol
@@TheNaturalGamer1 Can you at least use a smarter sounding phrase for that instead of the 1st grade reading level version a certain annoying orange popularized? "Tabloid lies", or "yellow journalism", or "slander", or anything else really. Raise the bar for yourself a bit.
@@TheNaturalGamer1this is the exact notice:
"You've fought 100,000 VS. mode matches! Go outside!"
Learn to google bro
@@Dark_Jaguargo outside
@@Dark_Jaguar Cry about it
You can actually get a milestone message for completing Event Match 51 without losing a life
Ohh cool I never saw that one. Cool info!
Omg I actually got that one with doing the Playable Master Hand Glitch! I was shocked there was a game notification for it!
To add to this, I think the other 2 messages are clearing Classic and Adventure on Very Hard with a stock of 1. So assuming you got the 10K bout message, your missing messages would be:
4,995 bouts
50K bouts
100k bouts
1M bouts
Event Match 51 without falling
Classic Very Hard 1 Stock
Adventure Very Hard 1 Stock
And All-Star Very Hard, since I missed if you did that. I don’t think there’s a trophy associated with it.
Isnt there also 2 for the special trophies you can only get from in person events?
Wait so you fail once… and thats it?
Its impossible to get after? What do you mean in one life? Like if I fail to complete it, the message is unobtainable from then without hacking
The FGC needs to get over the argument whether Smash is a fighting or a party game. It’s a collectathon.
Aside from 64
Remember when Game Informer claimed you could unlock Sonic & Tails by getting 20 KOs in Cruel Melee?
YES! This stuff always had me doing the dumbest challenges to get new characters.
Old enough to remember the battletoads rumour too?
That was fun. I figured it was a hoax, but I tried anyway. Got to 12 with Marth by exploiting the dumb AI with ledge shenanigans. That took forever though and I gave up.
That wasnt Game Informer; that was EGM in their May 2002 Issue.
It was one of their famous April Fool's Issue pranks; akin to Simon Belmont in TMNT2 in the May 1990 issue; the Mushroom Kingdom Hearts article in the May 2005 issue I think; the famous Sheng Long pair regarding Street Fighter II: World Warrior and III: New Generation in May 1992 and May 1997 Issues.
chat trust me on this one
you can get shadow by getting 50 KOs as Bowser in Cruel Melee!!! 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Luigi being unlocked with 2 likely just referencing him being well player 2
I like that idea!
Second fiddle.
That makes a degree of sense. Also beating the level with the clock changing the results is potentially a reference to the original. SMB game where based on the last digit of your time, you got different amounts of bonus fireworks.
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@@MaskedMazter Says the user whose only description content is "praise Jesus".
I know this sounds made up but I erased my melee save as a kid once, loaded melee again an got the Birdo trophy immediately. (you start out with one random trophy and that happended to be Birdo)
Talk about lucky! That's awesome
The Melee RNG Gods were in your favor, Birdo for Smash 6!
Lucky
Yo this happened to me too!
My memory card somehow got corrupted and formatted as kid. And the first trophy we got Restarting melees was the birdo trophy and unlocked the map. Me and my sibling were so hyped about this lol
@tunatuna511 I have no idea what that means, could you please explain what that means?
13:54 "Inside of the Pokeballs, there's only Legendary Pokemon"
*The Pokemon on the screen: Wobbuffet
Homie got banned to Ubers for a reason!
Ah yes, Wobbuffet, the most legendary of them all.
I think it's really cute and sweet that this is just run by two guys who are best friends. Keep at it, never stop doing what you love.
Thank you so much! Hope you enjoyed what we made!
"best friends" of course ;)
I beat the Giant Yoshi event challenge in less than two seconds because Yoshi straight up walked off the stage.
"Who is playing the game with items on?" Bro this is a game where Donkey Kong fights Samus, I don't think Sakurai intended for it to be a highly sweaty competitive game.
and yet all Smash Bros games have legs because of the competitive players
@@deanmoriarty6015and yet smash bros wouldn't be fun if they catered to just competitive players
@@wiffgunderwanted the most criticized things in all smash bros entries are the things done for casual players. are you gonna defend tripping next?
They could have always released a smash game without any of the interesting stuff if they REALLY wanted to “cater to the fans,” who I’m sure are only competitive plebs who hate 90% of the maps made despite all the love and care they put into them
its really not about competitive or not items just make the game less fun
The last messages are easy to get. Just use your memory card for smash tournaments. They can do the grind for you.
lol Good idea!
That makes me wonder if any of the ridiculous numbers have ever popped up in any already? If not, one of these days it just might.
Came here to comment this. Had literally lost track of how many coins I had when I stopped playing. I know I saw several of thoer messages bur don't think I ever got to1,000,000. Hooking up your game cube in a college dorm and having friends tag in and out as they went back and forth from classes helped a bunch. Especially since we'd usually have all 4 slots filled and tended to play only with items.
as a kid i misunderstood the luigi unlock requirement and tried to get a 02 in the miliseconds.
I thought you unlocked him by beating the first stage at a specific time spot within 10 seconds or you missed.
7:48 "Super Mario 128 was a codename for two different development projects at Nintendo. The name was first used in 1997 for a sequel to Super Mario 64 for the 64DD, which was canceled. The name was reused for a GameCube tech demo at the Nintendo Space World trade show in 2000." - Wikipedia
Dang! I didn't know that Thanks for the info!
@@OurTakeYTit eventually became an influence for Pikmin down the line
Pikmin is such a good game series @@Papriqa
Nice, this is like the completionist with less charity fraud
And he actually talks about completion criteria instead of skimming wikipedia!
The completionist also didnt even bother to 100% any game when i attempted to watch him. But I also could only skim through the video due to the incredibly forced reddit tier mcu viewer humor in his videos being genuinely painful to me
@@eightcoins4401 the IRS is right behind me, aren't they?
Remember when people thought Sonic was unlockable in Melee?
And then he was in Brawl, and that was so _goddamn hype._
"Who is playing with the items on?"
the children this game is meant for lol
And Sakurai
This feels like you took one of those giant Gamefaqs guides people used to write and just made it your script
I legitimately cannot believe you got 100% in melee, absolutely wild.
Well, 100% Asterisk, NOBODY is doing 1 million VS Matches unless they were a lunatic
He didnt
@@owennelson5814 can't you do the special melee with flower on head and 1% stamina matches?
@@Goomatora I do not know about 1hp Stamina Matches, but even then, it would still take ages...
@@owennelson5814 even though yes it would take ages, the idea would be to run stamina mode for 1 v 3 humans and have the 1 just run off the side of the stage
Fun fact: You can also unlock Marth by simply just playing VS mode with the default 14 characters. You don't necessarily have to play Classic or Adventure Mode to get him. This was always how I unlocked Marth when I was a kid. I would always just play VS mode and play a 1 stock match while turning the handicap down for the CPU to make it go faster
The thing about Melee's completion absurdity is that it's not really intended to be done in one go, but to be done over time, that's how you get 1000 vs matches, just by playing a lot. Having said that, the Mewtwo requirement is unexcusable
Yeah, I got almost all of this shit as a kid just by playing all the time. I remember having 999 coins regularly
So I randomly saw this video in my recommended feed, thought -hey that looks interesting! And as I click I'm greeted by one of my remixes. Thank you for the shout out, and for the awesome content!
No! Thank you for the awesome music we appreciate you so much on this channel and we will continue to recommend your music because you are the GOAT!
@@OurTakeYT Great video! Keep going! 💪🏾
You unlock Toad when you beat Hungrybox Bo5
Hahaha looks like I'm never unlocking Toad lol
where's my toad
@@KoDoRiNAt Nintendo HQ. Miyamoto will give you the unlock code if you catch him in the parking lot.
@@CptJistuce catch him in what, a net?
@@substitutedoll5224 Yes. A net no larger than 8' square.
Back in high school my friends and I stumbled across an infinite damage glitch in Melee. It was a three person match. Donkey Kong grabbed Falco, and Pichu proceeded to jab him. Falco was unable to break out of the grab, and the jab never ended. It was wonderful.
Cool! Sounds like a great memory!
I remember looking at what was required for getting every trophy a long time ago, probably a few years after the game came out. When I saw the list of match bonuses, I knew I was never going to have every trophy.
The match bonuses were not fun lol
it isn't as crazy as it sounds! I've gotten them all in about 22 hours!
I did all characters, stages, events, and trophies when I was a kid.
AND THEN I RESET THE GAME TO TRY AND DO IT AGAIN.
Never did.
Young link is supposed to be like 10 so normal Link is the adolescent one
When melee came out it was unlike anything else I played at this time, the music, atmosphere, and lore it deserves to make you think about life and uniqueness and progress. Definitely a very well crafted series.
Math major here
The probability of getting a new trophy with doing 1 coin 20 times is about 97% (Assuming consistent odds like a rolling a die) so technically, statistically, using 20 coins is better odds for getting a new trophy
BUT doing the 1 coin also means you can get multiple new trophies in fact you theoretically could get 20 new trophies... it's just that your odds are about 0.00000000000003%
You'll learn about Expected Value in your statistics class, where we can calculate the average "Trophies per Coin" and see, statistically, what's the optimal amount to spend. The formula here isn't bad: E[spending n coins at once]/n = (% chance with n coins) / n
Supposing we start with an X% chance and add 5% per extra coin (according to the wiki), we get E[1 roll @ n]/n = (X + .05*(n-1))/n = 0.05 + 1/n*(X-0.05)
Looking at this, we can deduce three cases about X (the % chance with one coin)
- X>0.05 : the adding term is positive but being reduced as n increases, it's best to use one coin
- X=0.05: the adding term vanishes, so all coins have the same expectation
- X
Can you clarify exactly what percentage you’re working with there?
Not a math major, but using the 20% odds of a new trophy (as given at 40:07) that seems to me that you should average out to 1 new trophy for every 5 coins spent. (Again, pretending the odds don’t get worse each time you get a new trophy, which of course they do)
With that perspective, you should average out to 4 new trophies by spending the 20 coins 1-at-a-time instead of in a lump sum.
At 40:24, the video discussed a 16% chance of a new trophy for each coin used, sooo…
At 16% per single coin instead, it’s a bit messier, but dividing 100 by 16 is 6.25; so you average out to 1 new trophy for every 6.25 coins spent. With these odds, I think you’re most likely to average 3.2 new trophies for every 20 coins spent.
@@Dash123456789Brawl It's not that you're wrong, we're just looking at 2 different measurements
For me, I am looking at the chance of getting *at least* one trophy. There are still the chances of more, but those are the odds for getting at least 1
What you are doing is looking at average which is a different measure, where you're looking at the 20% each time, so on average, it will be 4 (Which fits with the "at least one)
So, put more simply
You have a better chance of getting 1 trophy using 20 coins, than 1 coin 20 times, BUT you can ONLY get 1 trophy that way
Doing it one coin at a time you are less likely to get 1 (or more) but you have the probability of getting more than one
TLDR: Yeah doing 1 coin is more optimal, I just like math :P
@@sammysamlovescats Alright, thanks for clarifying! I thought you concluded that 20-at-once was better in your earlier comment; probably my own misunderstanding.
*And now theres an ACTUAL 100% achievement list that has 330+ achievements over at RetroAchievements and yes getting all 290 trophies is included as well as completing all-star on very hard with no continues.*
I didn’t play Melee back in the day, but god damn this makes the other Smash game 100% completions look like a cakewalk.
Also fun fact, there were actually two trophies only available from an event in Japan and can now only be obtained by hacking (the Mario & Yoshi and Samus Unmasked trophies)
Lol we fell asleep playing the game as kids, 3 controllers, basically woke up to mewtwo. This is the first time I heard about the 20 hours thing.
Thanks for making this video, it was really nostalgic to relive all of these achievements. The internet was still young in 2001 so information was really hard to get on how to unlock everything, and even methods that are now well known were up in the air to being true or not. I played Melee so much from the time of its release until Brawl came out on the Wii that getting the 4995 matches message came naturally, though I never ever came close to getting 1 million.
Hey, Thank you for watching this video! :)
Honestly, if you play the game semi regularly since you are a kid on the same hardware for more than 20 years, you get every achievement and every message. I still remember the time from 8 to 12 years old when we were just messing around in the game and trying out random stuff and some things we saw in some UA-cam videos. I also remember the sweaty nights playing 1on1s stoned as hell when I was at university.
Luigi is my main, but I enjoy messing around on Icicle mountain because of the ice combined with Luigi's slipperiness.
Also, you can defeat a Parakoopa with anyone if you use grab. You pick up the Parakoopa and then can throw them to one-hit kill them to get the bonus. (I'm not 100% sure if tether grab characters can grab a Parakoopa, though)
I eventually got all of the trophies over the course of 5 years or so when I was young.
5 years!? That's an absolute journey! Luigi on ice would be a crazy long wave dash lol
Mr. Game & Watch was the character that WON me over the moment I unlocked him. It was like playing a vintage cartoon character that was a love letter to a man's legacy very important to Nintendo's history.
I think all I was missing in completing Melee back in the day was Diskun and Captain Olimar. It wasn't quite so bad back in the day. I had 2 or 3 Gamecube cames for the first few months of owning it, and spent a lot of time playing Melee with friends, haha
Space Travelers makes sense because in Ness’s home game Earthbound, the one of the main threats in the game are aliens like the starmen, so in this Smash event Ness is fighting characters from different planets to defend earth.
ohh that makes sense
@@OurTakeYTI mean captain Falcon technically didn’t have to be part of it since he’s still technically a human, but Fox and Falco are animal aliens, Kirby is.. something it’s unclear what exactly he is (no he’s not a star warrior that’s just a title) and Samus is part Chozo and Metroid after Metroid fusion.
I unlocked all the trophies as a kid watching this makes me shocked I put up with all of this. and yet I am super nostalgic about it, one of my favorite gaming memories is an 8-year-old me and my dad sitting down with a list printed out on paper from GameFAQs with everything listed out for diskun, and me getting so excited when I got the sheriff achievement.
I wonder if that save file still exists?
I used to print out gameFAQs with my older brother all the time! what a cool memory you reminded me of :)
Lol I was going through some of my stuff and found some old gamefaqs final fantasy 9 guides to beat the superboss ozma
The mario 128 is a reference to the gamecube demo “game” from when they where showing off the gamecube called “Mario 128”.
It would later become Pikmin.
Kirby and pokefloats. Fight me.
Any time!
Man, being a seven year old playing this all hours of the night with friends was wild. I remember when we got the warning that MewTwo was coming. We handed the controller to the best player since all of us were too excited and scared to try ourselves.
Pretty cool memory! Melee is such a good time!
The main thing I've learned is that you really like spongebob and should 100% all the spongebob games.
Additionally, the reason pichu had to be bred to be obtained in the pokemon games is because they were all slaughtered in smash so there's no more pika babies. You sir, are a monster.
lol
I used to travel back and forth from my home town to the city I currently live in, and I would always crash at my friends' place. We would always play melee, and I grinded to get 100% on their file. It took like 3 years.
That's a pretty cool memory of melee, thanks for commenting!
I remember hearing all kinds of stuff about the hit all the names in the credits and it unlocks this back on the schoolyard lol.
Super Mario 128 was also the name of a tech demo created during the development of the Gamecube. It rendered 128 Marios running around to show the power of the console and it inspired/eventually became Pikmin
Excellent video. I usually don't take chances on lower viewed suggested videos, but I'm glad I clicked this. And I see its views going only up! Keep it up man
Glad you enjoyed it!
That is crazy that we have the same favorite character and same favorite stage. a man of taste I see
37:52 Why wouldn't you play with items? Items are fun.
Super Mario 128 is actually a reference to one of the pre release tech demos, that showed 128 mario models running around at the same time.
You honestly deserve to be much larger, I wish you prosperity on your channel.
Thank you, I just hope you guys enjoy the videos!
Super Mario 128 was a tech demo for the game cube.
It featured 128 Mario’s preforming different task to show of the capabilities of the GameCube. So I believe that It was actually an ester egg reference to the tech demo, but the tech demo was most likely a reference to Mario 64 because, like you said, 128 is double 64. So in a way it is a reference to Mario 64.
37:52 - "Who is playing the game with items on?" I am. And I want to see this inflicted by Nintendo upon the competitive community out of spite.
why, comp players are playing a completely different game
@@FerinitheBloodHusky When someone thinks "Smash", they tend to ONLY think about the way that community plays it. That's not what Nintendo wanted, given the direction they took with Brawl, to spite the Melee community. Nintendo did the worst thing ever when it came to Ultimate - they CAVED and let the competitive community's ruleset be used at their events rather than the items and hazards they were doing at their own things. It's one thing for the grassroots community to do their own thing but Nintendo's events should not be following that - there's no longer a reason to watch as there's nothing different there
@@FerinitheBloodHusky He implies that only babies play with items on, but it's ironically the exact opposite. Only _cowards_ play with items _off._ Imagine playing Smash Brothers but literally being so insecure that you have to turn off several core mechanics because you can't think on your feet. Competitions would be a lot more interesting if it wasn't always the same two or three people winning.
@@Wendy_O._Koopa Funny because I enjoy how randomness can affect the game, like the random crits in Team Fortress 2. Turn off any sense of randomness and... well, you said it best.
@@Pimploaf_YTP True, but that's what I like about TF2, just chaotic at times.
Also came from the algorithm, this stuff is really well made.
Something to note, I remember a top Melee player (I think Leffen?) tweeted that they got either the highest battles message or the 100k one, so in theory you could 100% on his copy specifically, or maybe a few other top players’. I imagine Cody for example would absolutely be able to truly 100% this game if he wanted to.
25:00 I'll never forget that when I booted up Melee for the first time as a kid, before I even got to the main menu it told me I unlocked the stage.
That's cool! You must have gotten the birdo trophy as your starting trophy!
As a horrible, terminal completionist, this is exactly the kind of thing I am looking for both in a video & in a game. I can never get Melee, because I would hate every day I was not grinding out that final message, almost as much as I'd hate every day I was.
It's only a million matches, could set it to super sudden death settings or mega speed and jump off the edge; can get like 3 completions a minute or more, put in 5-10 minutes a day as part of your routine, should be done in less than a year even with lots of missed days! :D
pichu + dream land 64 also damn good video keep up the good work
Thank you very much and pichu is fun to play with but I never win when I play as them lol. Dream land is awesome and the music rules!
You describing six hours of adventure mode as a grind is hilarious bc a single level in RuneScape can take like 10x that
Oof that would be tough!
People don't play with items on!? It's SO much more fun. one of the things I love about the game compared to other fighting games. I enjoy random elements like that
When you said "weve unlocked all the characters, or have we?", definitely thought you were going to show off the master hand glitch
Great video! Idk if you've made videos somewhere else but this video is well polished. Shocked you only have 29 subs. Good luck if you continue to make videos!
Wild that this comment was made at 29 subs and now 11 days later, there are 1.16k subs
Did you ever just use a rubber band? That's how I unlocked Mewtwo back in the day
How the hell do you have so few subs 😢 this is so high-quality
Thank you so much we try our best on these videos for you guys :)
Thank you for making this video about Melee. Makes me happy that people still talk about it. Also my main is also the one and only Falco too and Yoshi’s Story is good. I don’t have a number one favorite but perhaps it’s this one maybe lol.
Wow! Thank you so much for the super! Yoshi's story is an awesome map and thanks for watching the video!
This must have taken some serious stanima...
This video reminds me of old UA-cam, and I play with items, all the time. Great video!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
32:10
The Horribly Slow Murderer with the Extremely Inefficient Weapon, memory unlocked.
...and again
Low key miss collecting trophies in Smash
If you can you should go back and collect some!
Mr. Game and Watch has been my main since Melee, and it's been great seeing him getting more and more powerful with each game. Favorite stage as a kid was Onett because of the music and the Ramen food item lol.
Gotta hit those nines! and Onett's music is fire!
i love finding interesting videos like this in my recommended feed. Especially when I click on and see that it's from a pretty small channel. Excited to see more from you guys, certainly! Fantastic quality, good editing, fantastic vocal clarity- y'all are checking off all the boxes!
Thank you so much! We really appreciate the support and if there is anything you think we should try or do to improve just let us know! We are all ears
Came here before the algorithm. Good stuff, I like seeing Melee's side content
Thank you!
Oh surely SOMEONE has done the 1,000,000 VS Matches
Not gonna lie, incredibly underrated.
Thank you!
This guy drove himself to the point of near insanity just to complete a game nobody could ever 100% he also takes me back to my childhood
Technically you are missing 3 trophies. Tamagon, Mario and Yoshi and Samus Unmasked.
Those are unobtainable ingame iirc
@@ethantucker92838 aren't they restricted to the japanese version ?
@@ethantucker92838 Yeah that's why they are missing
@@ethantucker92838 nope, Tamagon is just exclusive to the Japanese version of the game. But yeah for the other two. Unless you use hacking
@@davidvkimball Isn't Mario & Yoshi from a 100% complete Sunshine save data?
What’s crazy is I did all of this casually as a child when I was 5-12 with my friends and myself. I got Pikmin and melee and a GameCube basically when it was released
I really appreciate the attention span we had as kids back in the day. I got 100% of this game as a kid from just playing hours and hours and hours of this game, and loved every minute of it.
36:19 "He hit me with a fucking bitch slap". This had me laughing!!
Thanks! I'm glad we could make you laugh!
My UA-cam algorithm senses tell me that this video is gonna explode. Great video!
Thank you for watching!
You can actually kill with luigis taunt, by setting a handicap of 9 for luigi and 1 for the enemy, while also having the damage ratio set to 2.0 in super sudden death.
It's clear a lot of these trophies and achievements were meant to be cleared over a long, long time. With many, many multiplayer matches with other people, not just solo play.
I can definitely agree with that!
Soooo i think my eyes played a trick on me inthought this video was gonna be like 14 minutes when i clicked it (probably the outside xtra video next to it on the screen) but i really sat here for an hour watching your video on my phone while scrolling through the comments and american dad played 2.5 episodes on hulu in the background. i only noticed because my daily text message from the bank that pops in between 5-6am just showed up and now i have to evaluate my life choice 😂 good video
97 subs is crazy for the quality of this video!
Thank you! We tried very hard!
I remember unlocking Ganondorf without the event. You just have to do an obscene amount of vs matches. Absolutely worth the time to get, and has been my main ever since.
That's pretty cool! Ganon is an awesome character.
you don't even need 4 controllers to get mewtwo faster, just plug your one controller into each port to select the characters, then let the match play out.
Edit: No you can't
if you unplug the controller, the game turns that person into a cpu on the CSS...
Wtf yea u never played melee 😂
nooo i didnt know that 😭😭😭 i havent played melee in a hot minute
10:50 You called Roy, son of Eliwood and his Burning Blade. But his sword is actually the Binding Blade. The Burning Blade I believe you were referring to is actually Eliwoods sword, The Blazing Blade
your idea of what is convoluted is quite something
not gonna watch a 50-minute video but I wanted to come here and say that this is the best fighting game ever made.
BOO FRIGGIN' HOO!
"It took me one hour!"
"Who plays with items?" Kids who want to have fun!
A falco-final-destination-no-items guy would make this video.
Found this video randomly. Excellent work on this one!
There was one thing I haven't seen anyone mention yet in the comments though. You can defeat any Adventure Mode enemies with any character (including Koopas and Paratroopas) just by grabbing them (not like an item, but with Z) and tossing them afterwards.
It's actually faster to do that then just pummeling them especially the Hyrule and Icicle Mountain enemies.
As for Tom Nook, I remember seeing "1,000 Coins" in my Nintendo Power Guide and thought the same thing about Coin Matches.
Ohh sweet I never knew that about the grabbing of them! Thank you and I'm happy I'm not the only one who thought that about the Tom book trophy.
@@OurTakeYT Probably the thing more taxing than getting 1,000 Lottery Coins is the "Hammer Throw" Bonus. I remember spending countless hours on Brinstar taking an acid bath just for a chance to throw the thing, seemingly doing it, only to not have the Bonus at the end of the match. I did get it eventually and the Diskun Trophy, but it felt like a hollow victory given the frustration involved.
Uhhhhhh why the hell is there a random logo for the NSA in the corner at 23:45 ???????????
Demo kioskis in stores like walmart and target made us so excited to play the full game. No surprise it sold sobwell.
Are you sure you cant unlock toad? Just saying the only time every name in melee was hit in the credits was just a bit ago (look up a video for it) and if you think about it no one has met the criteria you set 😳👀
Hmmmmmm interesting maybe we can get toad... lol
That classic one million matches message
I did 100% melee, let's goooooo!!!
Let's goooooo!!!!
Smash bros melee kept kid-me occupied for so many weeks.
Same!