Forget that it should be I'm a moron lmao - absolute dangerous and mad driving - driving can be a pleasure but with this driver on the road just makes it rubbish and dangerous
Can you imagine this guy mentoring somebody!? Cammer: “See that car emerging a quarter of a mile up the road? Hit the accelerator to close the gap!!! Now, give him a flash to scald him. Good job!”
@@bluwusky5167 There are plenty of valid criticisms of the dudes driving you could make that aren't anything to do with the brand of car he drives. Its like losing an argument so you insult their looks :P
@@vintagetriplex3728 People choose the car they drive, just like if you are a cat or dog person, it speaks to your personality as it is your free choice.
Hi everyone. After this video was released yesterday the good people at IAM Roadsmart have been inundated with my viewers getting in touch about this upload. I would like to say they are investigating this supposed member and their driving standard. The are going to get back to me over the next 24 hours and I will give everyone an update when I can. Thanks, Ashley. Update 12/10/2020. I've just received this update from IAM RoadSmart. "The IAM RoadSmart member who submitted clips to Ashley Neal has now offered his resignation, which has been accepted. The driving in the clips on which Ashley has commented do not uphold the Advanced Driving standards we coach people to achieve. All our observers hold a formal qualification, accredited by the Institute of the Motor Industry (IMI). This member did not hold that qualification and was not entitled to claim to be an observer for IAM RoadSmart."
Love to listen to you, I have been driving like you for years, your the first to point out things that we all should do ie Chill out, let that guy in, stop the ego and let things go, The only time the horn in my car is used is on its MOT. I also think that people in cars are nut jobs, no better than a wild animals, so why would anyone want to follow them, hold them up or get involved with them, let them go on thier way, they can find someone else to kill, not me , Thanks for been the voice of reason. :-)
I think that's really positive news - hopefully this guy can get some advice and improve both their driving and their attitude. I viewed the clip on a laptop rather than the phone for the first time earlier and so could see the speeds clearly- it was quite frightening.
I had a half day training with an IAM observer 30 odd years ago and he was obsessed with the running commentary rather than just safe driving. Nearly crashed because rather than just applying the brake I said "someone's pulled out so I will brake" before I applied the brake. Would like to see you try their test - it's bonkers.
The clip at 5:05. A defensive driver would recognize that the BMW would not be able to see them in their wing mirror due to the nature of the turn, and would be ready to slow in case someone cuts across. It's similar to the dangers of driving in other's blind spots. Many older drivers have a habbit of indicating right as they start their manoeuvre.
@@andyalder7910 that's a fairly sweeping judgement to make about the IAM based on 30 minutes with a single observer 30 years ago. Sorry if you have had a bad experience but have a look at some of the other comments which explain what the IAM test is about and some of the principles behind it. Basically observing, planning and managing situations to minimise risk; much in common with what Ashley demonstrates so well on this channel. Nothing bonkers about that.
I'm a middle aged bloke who's been driving since forever. I recognise some of the traits this guy has and might be guilty of some myself. I have recently been trying to correct some of them and Ashley has been an absolute find. These videos show even long term drivers that we are not always right. Rather than try and get even, take your foot of the gas, let the idiots put some space between you and them and get on with your day.
Great comment. It often takes a lot of guts to change ways set through decades, because it's easy to think one must be doing everything right since they have been driving for so long. Good on you.
I think everybody who has been doing something for a long time can fall into this trap. It's easy to think "I have ten years experience, of course I know everything!" But truly, no one ever stops learning. Wish you all the best in your driving endeavours
Yes that's the same conclusion I've come to. I've been driving for donkeys years and now instead of being awkward and trying to maintain how driving used to be I've adapted to these different driving styles on today's crowded roads. Driving has changed, not really for the better, those of us who were used to open roads being used by courteous drivers in the 80s are long gone, we just have to adapt.
"Drive to arrive" and "better to arrive a late in this world, than early in the next" are a couple of phases that were taught to me over the years. Really enjoy you clips, keep posting 👍
I think many are missing the point, when you display the IAM badge on the front grill you can get people deliberately cutting you up, pulling out in front of you and undertaking you, once you've experienced that crap for a few years, you know exactly whats going on.
@@ashley_neal It's a shame really as I feel IAM helped me a lot to improve my driving, it's much less reactive and I'm not running on auto pilot in the way I was. I suppose that as with anything, there will always be those who let the side down. Certainly what we see in this video is not the true ethos of IAM.
Exactly - if he's not a member anyway then no harm done, but if he is, then he's trying to use their name to give his awful driving some credibility. I think I would feel duty bound to bring this to their attention.
On seeing your comment and a number of others I have Googled his name and I can confirm he is a member of a local group. I'll let them know ASAP. Thanks, Ashley.
@@ashley_neal can't wait to see if there's any follow up from them. Could do with an anger management course and some lessons from scratch. (I noticed first clip was in a 50 limit)
My driving is crap. Thanks for helping me to improve. I have been guilty of all of these mistakes and make no excuses, for them. I’m watching to improve, and am doing my best to get better and not judge the people making the mistakes I have made on the road, using your free tuition as a reference. Thank you
Cammer got burned. Everything you said was right. It looks like he might have been putting himself in situations just so he could get angry and get clips.
@@kyleshaw7712 That's because this kind of footage brings in the views. You wouldn't watch a dashcam compilation of people driving perfectly fine, that'd be a bore fest.
@@lucavangorkom9453 Or if they spot a car approaching nearer to the roundabout, they'll floor it to give them an excuse to lean on the horn fvor not giving way.,
Massive respect to you Ashley - lesser individuals would not be so brutally honest with viewers who send videos in, for fear of damaging their channel's ratings. The fact you tell it like it is, no bullshit, is highly commendable. For that reason, I've hit the subscribe button. :)
The most dangerous drivers on the road are the ones who think they're great and surrounded by idiots and then go on to try to make a point and teach them a lesson with more dangerous driving. I've seen this trait over and again.
I'm embarrased to say that I used to drive like that. Not necessarily thinking I was great, but that I was surrounded by idiots and needed to teach them a lesson (and by doing so endangering myself and others). Luckily I realised this before any accidents happened and now drive a lot more defensively. It's actually way more relaxed that way as well.
There are an unbelievable number of drivers that think that being a good driver is about how quickly you can press an accelerator and brake. Good drivers are the ones that know how to share a road, not own it.
Correct! The problem lies with these type of drivers is their ego-driven driving skills are far, far above their actual driving skills and, when their actual driving skills quickly run out, in situations caused by their ego-driven skills, that's when serious accidents happen.
Two years ago I was fortunate enough to meet and chat for a whole day to one of those people who genuinely is a top ranking driving instructor and examiner. This particular person turned learning it all into a lifetime hobby. During their working life it included military and police among other things. They could drive and teach and examine at every driving discipline in every vehicle possible. To say they were interesting was an understatement! Anyway, during that day he managed to answer a whole heap of questions I couldn't find the answers for. Then I asked: The IAM? Is it worth me joining and doing my advanced driving with them. His answer was priceless - no. When I asked why, he explained that it's nothing but a motoring club for people who think they're clever and good drivers and they're not. He explained the snobbish chummery within that closed group of motorists. He advised me to steer clear and research advanced driving and that there are far better avenues to achieve it. Your video here does not surprise me one single bit.
I've also known some very senior instructors who've tended towards similar views. That said, I think it is unfair to tar all IAM members with the same brush. I'm sure there are many sensible good drivers within their ranks, as well as some noticeable idiots.
When i first got a dashcam it seemed i encountered a lot more idiots but then after viewing the clips it was my own driving that contributed to the bad situations that occurred. I think my driving is a lot better these days and I'm a bit more patient with other folk and now i very rarely have anything worth saving on my cam.
I’m so glad you called this driver out, so many of the clips on those dash cam compilations have drivers that are just as much at fault, if not more than the car they’re trying to highlight
In general I don't take a lot of issue with genuine mistakes/misjudgements, but do take issue with things done in "bad faith" - which seems to appear in many cammers. Fair enough if you react properly and curse the other driver out (though ideally that should only be in jest imo!) but it's generally easier to improve on judgements than it is on mentality towards others...
Some people put a dashcam in their car and immediately go looking for any reason to show people the video. Dashcams should be treated like a spare wheel or first aid kit. Check it's working frequently then ignore it until you need it.
@@LukeTR2000 Most dashcams that have a bundled card come with sub par ones or ones designed for phones which don't last long when continuously written to. You need ones marked as High Endurance but still expect them to last little more than 6 months depending on how long they're recording. You usually only find out the card has died when the footage you need is corrupted.
Other than formatting my card every couple of weeks in accordance with the manufacturers instructions ( to get rid of 'saved' clips which will eventually fill the card ) I rarely look at mine .
@@derekheeps1244 I have a 128gb high endurance card from sandisk ( not ultra card) and it works like a charm, I only need to reformat the card every 6 months
Hi Ashley, I have just watched the clips from the IAM Observer. I am also an IAM Observer and agree with your comments about his driving. The standard he displays is nowhere near to the standard taught by IAM. He should be reported to the Chief Observer of his Group who I feel Shure will stop using him to give Coaching sessions. Regards Les Horsman
Hi Leslie. On seeing your comment and a number of others I have Googled his name and I can confirm he is a member of a local group. I'll let them know ASAP. Thanks, Ashley.
I am a member of the IAM or IAM Road Smart member as it is now called. It is good to see that so many members have responded to these clips and that the person alleging to be an IAM Observer has now been removed from any connection with the organisation. The clips submitted by the alleged IAM observer show him committing numerous Road Traffic Act offences, speeding, driving without due care and attention bordering on dangerous driving etc. The Institute of Advanced Motorists was founded in 1959 and I would think that most Driving Instructors would have heard of it and support its laudable aim of improving car driving and motorcycle riding standards and so enhance road safety. When someone submits clips alleging to belong or represent a particular organisation I believe it would be prudent to contact that organisation to check their position within that organisation. This is my personal view.
Those of you watching his speed on the one with the Skoda emerge - did you also notice the speed limit dropping to 40mph? Because I'm not sure the cammer did. Or maybe he did, for his speed did drop to around 45 mph afterwards.
Just to put things in perspective 80mph on needle speed is 84 mph so the cammer doing 81 is pushing towards 86. And when he's driving towards the 40 sign at 45 he's basically doing 50 on needle. He's bloody insane thank god speed speedometers are out otherwise the speed he is traveling at would be a lot higher.
I thought the 40 limit came in after the junction? Either way the fact he wasn't willing to slow down a bit coming up to a junction like that is pretty poor, as was the emerge from the skoda itself. Would have most likely been a big accident if it was a large vehicle instead of the car.
On this one Ashley I agree. If this guy is an IAM Observer then its time for retraining. I did 8 years as an Observer and got a great deal of pleasure out of seeing a persons driving improve, it also helped my driving and kept me up to speed (or not as the case may be). If there is one lesson you should take away from IAM driving its restraint, clearly long forgotten in this case. Keep up the good work and yes I am trying to apply your skills and observations to my driving.
The IAM base their courses on Roadcraft: the police driving handbook, which is also used by other emergency services to teach their drivers. The general principles of Roadcraft are applicable to all drivers (there is only one chapter in the book about using exemptions). Chapter 1 of Roadcraft is all about attitude and is basically the opposite of what was demonstrated in those clips. He's also disregarded the principles of about 4 other chapters. I would seriously consider contacting the IAM to verify if he is genuine and to share this clip with them if he is.
On seeing your comment and a number of others I have Googled his name and I can confirm he is a member of a local group. I'll let them know ASAP. Thanks, Ashley.
@@ashley_neal Wow, when I watched the video I came to the conclusion the person who emailed must be falsely claiming to be an IAM observer. That it appears to be true is absolutely appalling. But I feel you need to let the National IAM people know not just the local group - I suspect there are small local groups where all the people involved know each other well - if that's the case here they make not take this nearly seriously enough. He clearly comes nowhere near the standard of a safe competent driver, nevermind an IAM member, and certainly not an IAM observer. Not only is he not suitable to be an observer, his entire IAM membership needs to be rescinded - but encouraged to reapply for membership (membership, not an observer) so that an actual competent observer (preferably from a different group!) can hopefully teach him to rein in his ego, attitude, some defensive driving skills and how to resolve situations rather than exacerbate them - and then demonstrate to an examiner (often ex-coppers) that he has developed his skills before he can be a member again. Heck at the skill level he is at I think he'd would benefit from some normal lessons from a driving instructor first before even going the IAM route - though I'm not convinced he would actually listen - i'm sure he thinks he knows better than a 'lowly' (in his mind) driving instructor. He's an IAM observer don't you know?! Really disappointing and frustrating to see the dreadful way he is representing the IAM here, he didn't need to bring that up and you wouldn't have known if he hadn't, but in the arrogance of doing so he has done such damage to the IAM name. And I dread to think what kind of 'tuition' he has been giving to others who have been looking to actively improve their driving skills - I hope the IAM go through their records to check who has been tutored by him and go back to them offering and encouraging sessions with a quality competent observer to eliminate any lasting damage he has caused as an observer.
@@ryanmitcham5522 I noticed in the first clip the sat nav said 34mph in a 50mph then 47mph then 56mph so the car keeping a good distance behind was catching up because the IAM driver wasn't doing 50mph in the first place, they both seem to have encountered a junction or roundabout a short time beforehand where there might have been an earlier encounter, however the driver undertaking was approaching the roundabout far too fast to keep control to stay in lane, whereas the IAM driver was approaching at a reasonable speed moving into the correct lane about the time they should.
Oh wow. I was going to suggest that he was nothing to do with IAM as the driving was that shocking. Being retired traffic officer I think your cammer didn’t get past the front cover of the Road craft book. And if he’s sent you the clips he only has himself to blame for the negative comments and possible outcomes. I wonder how many points he has on his licence? Perhaps you should invite him to yours for some tuition?
@@Gunship416The speeds he was doing were roughly in line with the speed limits for those roads, did anyone bear in mind other drivers might be reacting to him having an IAM badge on the front grill ?
I'm 50 and have been driving since 1991. Stumbled across Ashley's videos and learnt a lot. I think everyone can improve our driving. Always things to think about and self evaluate here. Thanks Ashley
@@Max-lf3tx he needs to watch some safe driving adverts and think about his driving what of it was his family that accidentally pulled out on him and he was going too fast and killed them it would be a different story then
He looks to be the typical impatient "I'm more important than you" driver. I used to be fairly aggressive when I was a less experienced driver. These days I find the best way to react to drivers making mistakes is to ease back and give them room. Patience when driving is actually the hardest thing to learn but often the best course of action in my view. "Drive to arrive" and finding another route for any pent up aggression are the best philosophies.
Fascinating. I would love to understand what point the cammer was trying to make. If his point is just to point out the failings of others, then the phrase “people in glass houses” comes to mind. Spot on analysis as usual Ashley, completely agree with everything you said. In my opinion, this guy does NOT deserve to be an IAM observer, if he is encouraging others to drive in this dangerous way.
Your videos have; over the last few months, really helped me improve my driving. I'm now less often triggered by other motorists. My stress levels have decreased when commuting. My journey times have not increased, and in some cases have decreased. I brake less heavily and dont find myself in sketchy situations as much. Still got a lot of work to do, but I feel like I'm getting there. Sadly, I could have recognised a lot of what this guy is doing in my driving not that long ago. Please keep putting these out, it's surely helping others a lot.
7:13 "The best driver since sliced bread". Imagine casually walking down the street and seeing a loaf of Hovis driving along showing everyone how it's done.
I’m glad that IAM are looking into this. In all of those clips I did not see one single element of advanced driving. I haven’t done IAM, I’ve done RoSPA, however the fundamental principles remain the same - cammer has a chip on his shoulder, his “qualification” has gone to his head, yet advanced drivers are told to constantly self evaluate and be critical of ones own driving!
Sometimes I watch dashcam complilations and will see multiple submissions from the same user and wonder how they seem to have so many clips to share. I know I don't drive anywhere near as much as I did before Covid, but I certainly didn't come across so many displays of bad driving myself. I wonder if it's because some people find themselves in so many of these situations because of the way that they drive themselves. The practice of defensive driving is a very important thing to do. Not just for yourself, but for everyone. There is no point forcing your way into a situation only to make it worse and utlimately rise blood pressure.
I'm currently driving in rural Lincolnshire, now I am sure that the standard of driving is exactly the same country wide, but living out in the sticks the driving one encounters is much more polite. I've had a dashcam a year and had one notable incident worth keeping. But should I drive down to my old haunts around Watford I would get ten or more just driving across town. It may be the driver, it may also be the pressured driving environment they find themselves in.
At 4:30 “Overtaking there was ridiculous”. Yes it was.... I successfully prosecuted a driver (a BMW !) for the same manoeuvre. His defence was that a bee flew in through his open window and distracted him.... he eventually plead guilty to dangerous driving. Top tip, the more paint on the road the more dangerous the environment. To have slowed down and progressed through the complicated junction at an appropriate distance and speed would have lost a few seconds only. Again a clear thoughtful and impartial analysis, well done. Thanks. This keeps everyone on their toes when driving. Courtesy is a powerful tool in the drivers kit.
Just been through the other comments, wow, thought I was being a wee bit cruel, other keyboards must be dripping with vitriol! But, honestly, he is deserving of every criticism. And yes, first clip the car in front DID brake test him...time to ease off the right foot and put some distance between the vehicles. Coming off the motorway, those fancy direction arrows are warning of a tight bend, not to approach at such a speed as to end up ploughing through one! He'd get a surprise if he tried that on some roads in France, I've come across quite a few they must have tested with an F1 car, I soon learned, after entering one at just under the recommended max.speed, and thinking I wasn't gonna make it round the curve!
I think that you have raised two valid points 1. Quite often the driver of the vehicle with camera is as guilty of doing something wrong as the other driver - I see it time and time again in compilation videos that come up on Facebook. 2. How many videos shared only show the section that they want you to see? You don't seen the build up or the aftermath - EG the part were the person with the camera did something wrong.
Wooooaahh! Driving at people at 70mph because you don't like what they're doing - what's that about? I'm sure most IAM observers who I'm sure do great work would be horrified and this isn't representative. When did your viewer take his IAM test and when did he qualify as an observer? I'd be interested to see if the IAM themselves have any comment on this. I'll declare an interest in that I went for the RoSPA advanced test myself and am now a voluntary tutor for them. RoSPA requires a retest every three years, which feels like an advantage (until about a month before your retest anyway :) ). But that's not to denigrate the IAM at all, quite the opposite; we're both in the same game - helping people who want to improve their driving and gain more enjoyment from it and so improving road safety. Although I understand IAM don't require a retest I believe they do encourage them and have introduced further qualifications for drivers who want to develop beyond their standard test. So I'm just a bit shocked by these clips.
@James Stewart They are both based on Roadcraft. Any perceived differences are down to local groups/individuals. The core principles are the same. (PS. You'd fail your ministry test if you didn't drive at the posted limit if it was safe to do so).
I work with an IAM observer who has a stick up his ass about driving standards he would be mortified if he seen a fellow IAM driver doing this kind of nonsense.
@James Stewart Having done both , they are not so different ; in old days IAM was more or less Rospa Silver ( or LSD class 2 ) ; Rospa Gold ( LSD Class 1 ) was higher and Bronze was technically a 'pass' but not great .
Well done in highlighting this. You did the right thing. IAM observers are very well intentioned amateurs JT this sort of driving is totally unacceptable. As a pro driving instructor and a national IAM observer cars and m/bikes I can concur with your analysis of these clips. This person has evidently a huge ego and a holier than thou attitude. He/she would fail any driving test let alone IAM or RoSPA. Thanks for showing this. IMO you are a great example to drivers of all levels.
Spot on, I know a few people who are normally very good drivers, until someone does something they don't like, then they get angry. Driving angry can be deadly. Luckily, over the years I've personally chilled out, someone cuts me up nowadays I just give them a friendly wave 😁
Thank you for uploading. After passing car and later motorbike test, my instructors taught me to look at my own roadcraft before pointing the blame at others. Opens your eyes when you are asked what you could have done to prevent an incident. Trying my best everyday even though it is never as good as instructors like yourself....maybe one day.
I used to get hot under the collar when I see other motorists drive inconsiderately and react badly but I learnt to keep my cool as best as I can. You can't control what other people do, like the idiot in the Dacia (1st clip). Best let them carry on and keep your distance.
I did my IAM driver's course about 14 years ago. I had the misfortune to have 1 session with a worse than useless Observer, who was sitting in the rear seat, evaluating another Observer who was in the front passenger seat... Luckily for me, my future sessions were with a the front passenger who was also a Police instructor. All that glitters aint gold.
35 years as an ADI, ( now retired) I hope he takes note of your comments, and maybe takes a look at his own driving. I do think the roads have changed a lot in recent years, and not in a good way, it now seems a very me first attitude and no thought of the consequences. Keep up the good work Ashley
The eye opening thing for me is that in the motorway clip, his speed never drops below 70mph, he cuts up the lorry in the offside lane AND drives into a situation where the cars in lanes 1 and 3 are closing a gap (and do well to avoid each other)
Glad that most comments recognise that if the cam car driver is an IAM Observer he is an isolated 'bad apple'. IAM Roadsmart teach among other aspects of more skillful driving- keep calm, anticipate trouble and keep away from it.
In every situation I started by imagining that Ashley is driving and as soon as I am convinced Ashley wouldnt act how they did I drink. :) pretty hammered ngl . . . . . Either way this guy just has a hugeeee ego and that IAM membership is not helping him thinking he is always in the right as he passed the test. Problem with many as shown on this channel. Very helpful to upload btw thank you now everyone knows who to look out for: its not just the idiots that dont look or take priority its also those that increase the risk without a thought of mitigation that cause the biggest problems. Reminds me of the guy that attempted to overtake a tractor that was around a bend without slowing once and thinking about it and when he saw his tractor's signal it was too late and abs barely saved him enough time to move his head out of the way of the pillar of a pole that impaled his headrest through the windshield
Ashley, I've been bingeing your videos for the last few days, love your content. I've started driving with an imaginary Ashley Neal on my shoulder now, has helped massively to help iron out those little negative traits that creep in when your been driving for such a long time, but also has helped to keep me calm when previously I might get a bit irate at idiot drivers. Thanks for everything you do mate, keep it up.
Spot on analysis there Ashley. I did an IAM course over 10 years ago when I was a bus driver. It was very much on the defensive driving techniques. I think it definitely helped me at the time. I like to think I am a good driver, but nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes sometimes, however road rage is the fastest way to let your driving go bad!
Don't worry about losing a subscriber. I've only just stumbled onto this channel (I've seen both your videos about the cyclist being hit - the jumping the red light and the follow up from the cyclist's point of view). Both of those I loved but this one made me subscribe! It's so nice having someone who is brutally honest for once. If you're ever in an accident, being PC is not going to spare you! I'd rather hear the (sometimes hurtful) truth and avoid being actually hurt. Thanks and greetings all the way from Invercargill, New Zealand!
Wow, I didn't expect to be one of the first viewers. I am normally like 2 hours late. However great video as always, keep up the good work Ashley. The 'camer', I felt was definitely in the wrong in a lot of them. Very dangerous, at moments I thought I was going to watch a crash.
Safety is key! I'm hgv and we have to make allowances for poor driving! I may flash or honk to bring attention to my presence on the road! But NEVER in a road rage or I'm telling u off! That just makes them mad and the situation just goes from bad to really dangerous! Amazing to think this guy could learn from me!
Before lockdown I was starting out doing the IAM course, from what I did this guy cannot be an observer. Its basics are about safe progress, good positioning, forward planning and anticipation. That last word is the most significant one that is missing from this claimed observer’s skill set (clearly all are in short supply) Anticipation allows a degree of tolerance to other’s mistakes, we all make them whether you’re an IAM observer, ADI, PDI or regular driver, when faced with other driver’s mistakes we all need to do as you always say Ash, chill out. Lastly, IAM observer my a**e!
I love this Channel. I was taught by a man who taught me to be a defensive driver. Not just for me to drive somewhere for me but to drive with the mindset of the drivers around me. Mistakes can and will happen and for me its usually speed,junctions and merging that are the usual suspects. I also see a lot of other types of vids that show a lot of the time that there seems to be a real anger problems with say bad merging and the like. Your explanations i think are very good at looking at the full picture. I have subbed and looking forward to more stuff.
Totally agree. I watch these kind of complication videos sometimes, often at least a quarter are a fuss about nothing, or they are the worse driver. Respect and subscribed. 👍
The IAM are quite precious about who uses their name, probably quite understandably. They insist their car badges are covered up if a non member is driving it.
johno4521 Unfortunately, I doubt there’s anything the IAM can do about who has a badge on their car or bike. You can buy these badges on eBay (or it could be the spouse of an IAM who’s driving the vehicle).
You are completely correct - IAM MYARSE! Well done for bringing this out. I have just learned plenty more from a fool than I am likely ever to learn otherwise... whilst a wise driver learns from others' mistakes and a foolish driver learns from their own... an eejut driver takes no heed!
Like a lot of long term drivers, I have gotten into some bad habits. I love these videos they re educate and update. Well done Ashley and thanks for the videos
Ashley, just found your channel, many thanks. I gained a 1st class IAM pass a couple of years ago and the observer who helped me was excellent - by day he was an ambulance driver. He stressed that you should always stake the chance to "de-escalate" or remove risk from situations if you can. (it's a great course to take because we all become very casual over the years). The kind of driving shown here goes against everything the IAM would try to teach and I can't imagine he really is an observer.
He probably is an IAM observer. Problem I find with the IAM is that once you have passed the test, which is about an hour and a half long, you don't have to do any further tests. Also, as soon as you pass most local clubs try an encourage people in becoming an observer. I know this is it happen to me. Passed my IAM test and without any further training was asked to become an observer, something that I honesty thought I wasn't qualified for. Learning to pass the IAM test yourself is one thing, teaching someone else is a totally different story. That said, I would definitely encourage people to do the advanced driving test, it teaches you the system of car control, something that was clearly missing in watching these clips!
Skill in driving is one thing but attitude is key to safe driving. I.A.M members are expected to be safe and courteous drivers, who are taught to make progress safely. The extra skills do help to make driving enjoyable and safe if used sensibly. I did an I.A.M course back in 2000 I think, I enjoyed it so much that I did the RoSPA course as well. Some years later I ended up doing an emergent service driving course when joining the ambulance service and the skills I’d learned through the the help of volunteers from both the I.A.M and RoSPA really came in useful. When I watched the video and the drivers complete lack of restraint and responsibility for his potentially dangerous behaviour it shocked me. This behaviour is in no way representative of those people who join advanced driving groups at their own expense, develop their own skills and then go out of their way to help others achieve the same. I’m glad the decision was taken to report this individual
The problem with the IAM is that it instills in its members that they're better drivers than other people, so it means they feel they can take the liberty of driving faster and less safely. My mum's driving, while impressive technically, is definitely not safe at times despite her qualification. Been pulling her up on it more now I've seen this channel as she sometimes comments on my own driving trying to make me drive less safely for the sake of speed or as she puts it "making progress", like I don't also want to drive as quick as I (safely) can.
If he's an IAM observer then this is absolutely shocking. Mine would be horrified by this as would any real advanced driver. This is quite simply dangerous driving 😫
Another great video. Whether or not he's some sort of instructor himself, it's quite scary that he can be so confident in his actions that he's willing to send the vids in for approval. His driving was truly shocking!
I like watching these videos, not only does it highlight that slowing down is the best option quite often but it also allows me to associate the odd action with what I do, I'm guilty of wanting bad drivers behind me on a motorway providing I don't have to break the speed limit to do so. I've had my driving license since I was 17, I'm nearly 50 and I'm a practicing driver, I don't know it all and I'm constantly looking to be a better driver.
Completely agree with you on this. Difference between people learning to drive and assuming to improve (and seeking you're knowledge on the best approach to situations that are difficult), but when a person uses their title or position to suggest they're right when clearly they aren't, they should be told off. We're all learning, even the advanced
At no point does this 'driver' show any IAM characteristics in his driving. To send these clips in for comment clearly shows he's either not been coached properly or just doesn't drive to the system. No competent driver having passed their IAM test would drive like this as safety and defensive driving are two of the mainstays of advanced driving.
I'm late to this party, but I saw a follow on video, so glad to finally have some perspective on it. Glad he turned out not to be an IAM observer. His driving may not have been the initiator of many of the incidents in the video, but he certainly contributed to making the situation a lot more dangerous in a lot of the clips. I hope he has sought out better driving education since this was released, because if he keeps driving like that it's only a matter of time before someone ends up dead.
Went on IAM Motorbike course with 2 taster rides ,first with a police biker, brilliant guy and taught me a few things but at the end told me I was a good safe rider, second time with a IAM observer, told me off for not filtering through Wetherby town centre on a busy Saturday morning with shoppers and mums with prams trying to cross the road between traffic stopped at lights, I didn't deem it safe, second tell off was slowing and stopping when lights changed to amber, he passed me and went through on red !!!!!, when ride was finished he said I needed work as I didn't make progress, didn't take bends properly etc, been riding motorcycles since I was a kid, early years trials and motocross plus on and off 30 years on the road only once coming off on a bend once due to diesel, needless to say I never went back,what he was telling me to do I deemed dangerous T
I did the car course and felt similarly. It was just devoid of common sense! No matter how many techniques and skills and badges you have, common sense is your best tool on the road. Advanced driving/riding isn't a set of rigid techniques, or blindly following a rule book, and it isn't something we do with our hands and feet. It's about using your brain, and some people don't seem to grasp this.
Fully agree with you Ashley, I recently started watching some Dash Cam clips and was appalled by the poor standard of driving, not only by the drivers that were the subject of the clips, but also the poor standard that some of the Dash Cam drivers themselves showed, aggressive horn use, swearing, steering wheel punching, insane shouting, tailgating, cutting in sharply, and in some cases the total lack of awareness of the developing situation that some of the Dash Cam owners showed made most of the incidents much worse.
I recently drove from the northern most part of Scotland(Scrabster) to West Yorkshire and, after a weeks holiday, I drove back. My overriding thought is always, get were I'm going safely and reasonably relaxed. It's drivers, like this cammer, that cause a lot of problems on our roads.... fast, expensive car, an equally fast temper with an over-inflated ego to match their temper. That ego that needs to be the first or ahead, punishes other drivers for slight mistakes, all while committing bigger, dangerous mistakes attempting to punish them. My philosophy is to just let them drive past, ease off a little and watch them gain distance knowing, if they do cause an accident, I'm nowhere near them.
Theres no need for his driving hes driving like a entitled nob hes just closing gaps and going 80 in an advisory limite it tends to be advisory for a reason like a sharp sudden bent
Advisory limits are generally completely ignorable in normal weather. I go through each one of them once at the advised limit to make sure it's not a hairpin, then ignore them completely in future.
I think the one at 4:30 was the only one that was reasonable. I don't think stopping from 50 mph (which, unlike in most others, seemed a fairly reasonable speed) was necessarily possible in that space. Solid white line or not, avoiding a collision is a perfectly good reason to go offside.
I know, right? If I was driving that car, I could forgive the other drivers who did something wrong here but some of what he does is pretty unforgivable and downright shocking. I wouldn't want to be his passenger!
Only 1 mistake by a driver other than the operator was the double lane over at 4:07.....everything else was the IAM. Every single thing that they did would have had a police car pulling them over, here in the states, for aggressive driving.
Not a very good advert for the IAM, of which I'm a member. I hope this doesn't put anyone off joining the IAM, I'm sure any IAM member would be appalled by his driving. I'm also a member of RoSPA Advanced Drivers. Not saying that RoSPA is better than the IAM but they do grade Bronze, Silver, Gold rather than the simple pass or fail of the IAM, and you do also have to do a refresher test every 3 years which keeps you on your toes. When I did my Observer's test with the IAM in 1990 the training was very comprehensive, about 30 hours of theory and 30 hours of practical delivered by a Police Driving Instructor - and that was in addition to the training to pass the Advanced Test in the first place. But that was the policy of the local group at the time. Despite all the test passes that I've had (Observer and Senior Observer with the IAM and 9 or 10 RoSPA tests, all at Gold level) I never think of myself as a 'good' driver, rather 'capable of improvement'. Something the driver in this video could perhaps take on board.
I used to be a member of the IAM as I thought it would help me improve my driving through learning additional skills and techniques for the road under the mentorship of more experienced IAM members, but quickly learned that the IAM unfortunately attracts a certain number of adenoidal gits who are not interested in any of that but want to impose the rules in their heads on other road users. I am no longer a member of the IAM. Many of them are an accident waiting to happen because they have got it into their heads that their observational skills are infallible, so refuse to check blindspots (because they would have seen someone move into that area before). Some of them have taken the sensible rule of "don't use your indicators where it isn't necessary, because you might distract attention from someone who needs be indicating" as "only indicate if you deem another road user worthy of it. My observation skills are infallible so it's impossible that I may have misunderstood another road user's intentions!" I suspect there are some former and current IAM members currently nodding along to this.
I recognize the roads in these clips from my home town of Banbury, now you know what I have to put up with on a daily basis. I sure the guy's fuel economy must be sky high driving that fast on top of all the other bad driving he exhibits.
I.A.M observer? ... More like 'I'm a moron, observe'.
his job is to demonstrate to people what bad driving looks like
Forget that it should be I'm a moron lmao - absolute dangerous and mad driving - driving can be a pleasure but with this driver on the road just makes it rubbish and dangerous
Insane Angry Motorist! Observer
A non-native speaker heard: "Since lice spread" :D
Institute of advanced moron.
Can you imagine this guy mentoring somebody!?
Cammer: “See that car emerging a quarter of a mile up the road? Hit the accelerator to close the gap!!!
Now, give him a flash to scald him.
Good job!”
flashing will not scald him, hot water might ! it may scold him though.
Honestly, the guy just seems like he has an extremely fragile ego.
It would explain why he drives a Mercedes.
Adam Jones what does the car brand has to do with people’s personalities?
@@vintagetriplex3728 Mercs, particularly cheap ones, are often bought by people with fragile egos to give themselves a boost.
@@bluwusky5167 There are plenty of valid criticisms of the dudes driving you could make that aren't anything to do with the brand of car he drives. Its like losing an argument so you insult their looks :P
@@vintagetriplex3728 People choose the car they drive, just like if you are a cat or dog person, it speaks to your personality as it is your free choice.
Hi everyone. After this video was released yesterday the good people at IAM Roadsmart have been inundated with my viewers getting in touch about this upload. I would like to say they are investigating this supposed member and their driving standard. The are going to get back to me over the next 24 hours and I will give everyone an update when I can. Thanks, Ashley.
Update 12/10/2020. I've just received this update from IAM RoadSmart. "The IAM RoadSmart member who submitted clips to Ashley Neal has now offered his resignation, which has been accepted. The driving in the clips on which Ashley has commented do not uphold the Advanced Driving standards we coach people to achieve. All our observers hold a formal qualification, accredited by the Institute of the Motor Industry (IMI). This member did not hold that qualification and was not entitled to claim to be an observer for IAM RoadSmart."
Love to listen to you, I have been driving like you for years, your the first to point out things that we all should do ie Chill out, let that guy in, stop the ego and let things go, The only time the horn in my car is used is on its MOT. I also think that people in cars are nut jobs, no better than a wild animals, so why would anyone want to follow them, hold them up or get involved with them, let them go on thier way, they can find someone else to kill, not me , Thanks for been the voice of reason. :-)
I think that's really positive news - hopefully this guy can get some advice and improve both their driving and their attitude. I viewed the clip on a laptop rather than the phone for the first time earlier and so could see the speeds clearly- it was quite frightening.
I had a half day training with an IAM observer 30 odd years ago and he was obsessed with the running commentary rather than just safe driving. Nearly crashed because rather than just applying the brake I said "someone's pulled out so I will brake" before I applied the brake. Would like to see you try their test - it's bonkers.
The clip at 5:05. A defensive driver would recognize that the BMW would not be able to see them in their wing mirror due to the nature of the turn, and would be ready to slow in case someone cuts across. It's similar to the dangers of driving in other's blind spots. Many older drivers have a habbit of indicating right as they start their manoeuvre.
@@andyalder7910 that's a fairly sweeping judgement to make about the IAM based on 30 minutes with a single observer 30 years ago. Sorry if you have had a bad experience but have a look at some of the other comments which explain what the IAM test is about and some of the principles behind it. Basically observing, planning and managing situations to minimise risk; much in common with what Ashley demonstrates so well on this channel. Nothing bonkers about that.
I'm a middle aged bloke who's been driving since forever. I recognise some of the traits this guy has and might be guilty of some myself.
I have recently been trying to correct some of them and Ashley has been an absolute find. These videos show even long term drivers that we are not always right.
Rather than try and get even, take your foot of the gas, let the idiots put some space between you and them and get on with your day.
They're probably doing it deliberately because he has an IAM badge displayed, I just drive old wrecks so the idiots loose out not me.
Great comment. It often takes a lot of guts to change ways set through decades, because it's easy to think one must be doing everything right since they have been driving for so long. Good on you.
I think everybody who has been doing something for a long time can fall into this trap. It's easy to think "I have ten years experience, of course I know everything!" But truly, no one ever stops learning. Wish you all the best in your driving endeavours
Yes that's the same conclusion I've come to. I've been driving for donkeys years and now instead of being awkward and trying to maintain how driving used to be I've adapted to these different driving styles on today's crowded roads. Driving has changed, not really for the better, those of us who were used to open roads being used by courteous drivers in the 80s are long gone, we just have to adapt.
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"Drive to arrive" and "better to arrive a late in this world, than early in the next" are a couple of phases that were taught to me over the years.
Really enjoy you clips, keep posting 👍
'Better late than dead on time'.
I did my IAM a few years ago and cannot believe that this guy is an IAM observer. There is no way that IAM would condone this kind of driving.
I agree. No way can he be an IAM observer. In fact, as an IAM member and ex ADI myself, I would very doubt he is even an IAM member.
On seeing your comment and a number of others I have Googled his name and I can confirm he is a member of a local group. Thanks, Ashley.
I think many are missing the point, when you display the IAM badge on the front grill you can get people deliberately cutting you up, pulling out in front of you and undertaking you, once you've experienced that crap for a few years, you know exactly whats going on.
@@ashley_neal Scary. Perhaps the IAM need to think carefully about the methods used to select their Observers.
@@ashley_neal It's a shame really as I feel IAM helped me a lot to improve my driving, it's much less reactive and I'm not running on auto pilot in the way I was. I suppose that as with anything, there will always be those who let the side down. Certainly what we see in this video is not the true ethos of IAM.
The best driver since sliced bread!
hi jack
Ah no way it's jack 😂
Surprised seeing Jack here
I'd love to see some sort of collab between you and Ashley once the world has settled down.
Similar driving skill to a slice of bread.
I'd contact the IAM and make them aware of this individual - if he is a member then he needs holding to account.
Exactly - if he's not a member anyway then no harm done, but if he is, then he's trying to use their name to give his awful driving some credibility. I think I would feel duty bound to bring this to their attention.
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I think he’s a member 🤔
He’s a danger on the roads and him carrying on like that he will kill someone.
On seeing your comment and a number of others I have Googled his name and I can confirm he is a member of a local group. I'll let them know ASAP. Thanks, Ashley.
@@ashley_neal can't wait to see if there's any follow up from them. Could do with an anger management course and some lessons from scratch. (I noticed first clip was in a 50 limit)
My driving is crap. Thanks for helping me to improve. I have been guilty of all of these mistakes and make no excuses, for them.
I’m watching to improve, and am doing my best to get better and not judge the people making the mistakes I have made on the road, using your free tuition as a reference.
Thank you
Cammer got burned.
Everything you said was right. It looks like he might have been putting himself in situations just so he could get angry and get clips.
Enemyonwheels just like a lot of people with dash cams these days I’ve noticed.
Yeah there's a lot of that atm... The normal thing is for people with dash cams to speed up towards someone putting out into them.
@@kyleshaw7712 That's because this kind of footage brings in the views.
You wouldn't watch a dashcam compilation of people driving perfectly fine, that'd be a bore fest.
@@lucavangorkom9453 Or if they spot a car approaching nearer to the roundabout, they'll floor it to give them an excuse to lean on the horn fvor not giving way.,
Massive respect to you Ashley - lesser individuals would not be so brutally honest with viewers who send videos in, for fear of damaging their channel's ratings. The fact you tell it like it is, no bullshit, is highly commendable. For that reason, I've hit the subscribe button. :)
The most dangerous drivers on the road are the ones who think they're great and surrounded by idiots and then go on to try to make a point and teach them a lesson with more dangerous driving. I've seen this trait over and again.
I'm embarrased to say that I used to drive like that. Not necessarily thinking I was great, but that I was surrounded by idiots and needed to teach them a lesson (and by doing so endangering myself and others). Luckily I realised this before any accidents happened and now drive a lot more defensively. It's actually way more relaxed that way as well.
There are an unbelievable number of drivers that think that being a good driver is about how quickly you can press an accelerator and brake. Good drivers are the ones that know how to share a road, not own it.
@@PhilEadie65 Exactly. It's not about being able ot quickly hit the brake or accelerator, but knowing when to.
car-cissism
Correct! The problem lies with these type of drivers is their ego-driven driving skills are far, far above their actual driving skills and, when their actual driving skills quickly run out, in situations caused by their ego-driven skills, that's when serious accidents happen.
Two years ago I was fortunate enough to meet and chat for a whole day to one of those people who genuinely is a top ranking driving instructor and examiner. This particular person turned learning it all into a lifetime hobby. During their working life it included military and police among other things. They could drive and teach and examine at every driving discipline in every vehicle possible. To say they were interesting was an understatement!
Anyway, during that day he managed to answer a whole heap of questions I couldn't find the answers for. Then I asked: The IAM? Is it worth me joining and doing my advanced driving with them. His answer was priceless - no. When I asked why, he explained that it's nothing but a motoring club for people who think they're clever and good drivers and they're not. He explained the snobbish chummery within that closed group of motorists. He advised me to steer clear and research advanced driving and that there are far better avenues to achieve it.
Your video here does not surprise me one single bit.
I've also known some very senior instructors who've tended towards similar views. That said, I think it is unfair to tar all IAM members with the same brush. I'm sure there are many sensible good drivers within their ranks, as well as some noticeable idiots.
@@derekp2674 I agree. We can't label everyone as the same - that goes for any place in society.
When i first got a dashcam it seemed i encountered a lot more idiots but then after viewing the clips it was my own driving that contributed to the bad situations that occurred. I think my driving is a lot better these days and I'm a bit more patient with other folk and now i very rarely have anything worth saving on my cam.
That’s why I’ve stopped watching a lot of dashcam channels as a lot of clips do involve the camer racing into situations to get a video.
You're divulging the secrets of dashcam drivers. Careful. They might come after you.
@@philipabelanet5476 😂😃😂😁😀😃😂
Its the dings in car parks when its parked that I need cams for, or to organise a general strike for wider parking spaces.
It's great to hear this. Congratulations on developing this level of self awareness :)
I’m so glad you called this driver out, so many of the clips on those dash cam compilations have drivers that are just as much at fault, if not more than the car they’re trying to highlight
In general I don't take a lot of issue with genuine mistakes/misjudgements, but do take issue with things done in "bad faith" - which seems to appear in many cammers. Fair enough if you react properly and curse the other driver out (though ideally that should only be in jest imo!) but it's generally easier to improve on judgements than it is on mentality towards others...
Some people put a dashcam in their car and immediately go looking for any reason to show people the video. Dashcams should be treated like a spare wheel or first aid kit. Check it's working frequently then ignore it until you need it.
Mine literally is being a spare part because SD card is shot in it so waiting for a deal on large capacity SD card with survelance features
@@LukeTR2000 Most dashcams that have a bundled card come with sub par ones or ones designed for phones which don't last long when continuously written to. You need ones marked as High Endurance but still expect them to last little more than 6 months depending on how long they're recording. You usually only find out the card has died when the footage you need is corrupted.
@@LukeTR2000 you need to get a 'high endurance' card which is designed to be constantly written to .
Other than formatting my card every couple of weeks in accordance with the manufacturers instructions ( to get rid of 'saved' clips which will eventually fill the card ) I rarely look at mine .
@@derekheeps1244 I have a 128gb high endurance card from sandisk ( not ultra card) and it works like a charm, I only need to reformat the card every 6 months
Having done the IAM course many years ago, I am shocked that this guy admits to be an IAM member. This flies against all the training I experienced
Hi Ashley, I have just watched the clips from the IAM Observer. I am also an IAM Observer and agree with your comments about his driving. The standard he displays is nowhere near to the standard taught by IAM. He should be reported to the Chief Observer of his Group who I feel Shure will stop using him to give Coaching sessions.
Regards
Les Horsman
Hi Leslie. On seeing your comment and a number of others I have Googled his name and I can confirm he is a member of a local group. I'll let them know ASAP. Thanks, Ashley.
I am a member of the IAM or IAM Road Smart member as it is now called. It is good to see that so many members have responded to these clips and that the person alleging to be an IAM Observer has now been removed from any connection with the organisation. The clips submitted by the alleged IAM observer show him committing numerous Road Traffic Act offences, speeding, driving without due care and attention bordering on dangerous driving etc. The Institute of Advanced Motorists was founded in 1959 and I would think that most Driving Instructors would have heard of it and support its laudable aim of improving car driving and motorcycle riding standards and so enhance road safety. When someone submits clips alleging to belong or represent a particular organisation I believe it would be prudent to contact that organisation to check their position within that organisation. This is my personal view.
Those of you watching his speed on the one with the Skoda emerge - did you also notice the speed limit dropping to 40mph? Because I'm not sure the cammer did. Or maybe he did, for his speed did drop to around 45 mph afterwards.
I was about to type this in on comments.
Just to put things in perspective 80mph on needle speed is 84 mph so the cammer doing 81 is pushing towards 86. And when he's driving towards the 40 sign at 45 he's basically doing 50 on needle. He's bloody insane thank god speed speedometers are out otherwise the speed he is traveling at would be a lot higher.
I thought the 40 limit came in after the junction? Either way the fact he wasn't willing to slow down a bit coming up to a junction like that is pretty poor, as was the emerge from the skoda itself. Would have most likely been a big accident if it was a large vehicle instead of the car.
Could have been slowing, or ready to, long before then (about where the clip starts), anticipating any idiots and the speed limit.
On this one Ashley I agree. If this guy is an IAM Observer then its time for retraining. I did 8 years as an Observer and got a great deal of pleasure out of seeing a persons driving improve, it also helped my driving and kept me up to speed (or not as the case may be). If there is one lesson you should take away from IAM driving its restraint, clearly long forgotten in this case. Keep up the good work and yes I am trying to apply your skills and observations to my driving.
The IAM base their courses on Roadcraft: the police driving handbook, which is also used by other emergency services to teach their drivers. The general principles of Roadcraft are applicable to all drivers (there is only one chapter in the book about using exemptions). Chapter 1 of Roadcraft is all about attitude and is basically the opposite of what was demonstrated in those clips. He's also disregarded the principles of about 4 other chapters. I would seriously consider contacting the IAM to verify if he is genuine and to share this clip with them if he is.
On seeing your comment and a number of others I have Googled his name and I can confirm he is a member of a local group. I'll let them know ASAP. Thanks, Ashley.
@@ashley_neal Wow, when I watched the video I came to the conclusion the person who emailed must be falsely claiming to be an IAM observer. That it appears to be true is absolutely appalling. But I feel you need to let the National IAM people know not just the local group - I suspect there are small local groups where all the people involved know each other well - if that's the case here they make not take this nearly seriously enough.
He clearly comes nowhere near the standard of a safe competent driver, nevermind an IAM member, and certainly not an IAM observer. Not only is he not suitable to be an observer, his entire IAM membership needs to be rescinded - but encouraged to reapply for membership (membership, not an observer) so that an actual competent observer (preferably from a different group!) can hopefully teach him to rein in his ego, attitude, some defensive driving skills and how to resolve situations rather than exacerbate them - and then demonstrate to an examiner (often ex-coppers) that he has developed his skills before he can be a member again. Heck at the skill level he is at I think he'd would benefit from some normal lessons from a driving instructor first before even going the IAM route - though I'm not convinced he would actually listen - i'm sure he thinks he knows better than a 'lowly' (in his mind) driving instructor. He's an IAM observer don't you know?!
Really disappointing and frustrating to see the dreadful way he is representing the IAM here, he didn't need to bring that up and you wouldn't have known if he hadn't, but in the arrogance of doing so he has done such damage to the IAM name. And I dread to think what kind of 'tuition' he has been giving to others who have been looking to actively improve their driving skills - I hope the IAM go through their records to check who has been tutored by him and go back to them offering and encouraging sessions with a quality competent observer to eliminate any lasting damage he has caused as an observer.
@@ryanmitcham5522 I noticed in the first clip the sat nav said 34mph in a 50mph then 47mph then 56mph so the car keeping a good distance behind was catching up because the IAM driver wasn't doing 50mph in the first place, they both seem to have encountered a junction or roundabout a short time beforehand where there might have been an earlier encounter, however the driver undertaking was approaching the roundabout far too fast to keep control to stay in lane, whereas the IAM driver was approaching at a reasonable speed moving into the correct lane about the time they should.
Oh wow. I was going to suggest that he was nothing to do with IAM as the driving was that shocking. Being retired traffic officer I think your cammer didn’t get past the front cover of the Road craft book.
And if he’s sent you the clips he only has himself to blame for the negative comments and possible outcomes.
I wonder how many points he has on his licence? Perhaps you should invite him to yours for some tuition?
@@Gunship416The speeds he was doing were roughly in line with the speed limits for those roads, did anyone bear in mind other drivers might be reacting to him having an IAM badge on the front grill ?
I'm 50 and have been driving since 1991. Stumbled across Ashley's videos and learnt a lot. I think everyone can improve our driving. Always things to think about and self evaluate here. Thanks Ashley
Another case of 'I've got priority' syndrome.
Merc syndrome
The driver has some serious issues and the speed he's doing will kill someone.
@@Max-lf3tx he needs to watch some safe driving adverts and think about his driving what of it was his family that accidentally pulled out on him and he was going too fast and killed them it would be a different story then
Another case of I’ve got small equipment syndrome
@@Ethankeenan02 Oh no - we Mercedes drivers are among the nicest people you will find anywhere :-)
He looks to be the typical impatient "I'm more important than you" driver.
I used to be fairly aggressive when I was a less experienced driver. These days I find the best way to react to drivers making mistakes is to ease back and give them room. Patience when driving is actually the hardest thing to learn but often the best course of action in my view. "Drive to arrive" and finding another route for any pent up aggression are the best philosophies.
Fascinating. I would love to understand what point the cammer was trying to make. If his point is just to point out the failings of others, then the phrase “people in glass houses” comes to mind.
Spot on analysis as usual Ashley, completely agree with everything you said.
In my opinion, this guy does NOT deserve to be an IAM observer, if he is encouraging others to drive in this dangerous way.
I think he thinks that being an IAM observer entitles him to drive more dangerously
Your videos have; over the last few months, really helped me improve my driving. I'm now less often triggered by other motorists. My stress levels have decreased when commuting. My journey times have not increased, and in some cases have decreased. I brake less heavily and dont find myself in sketchy situations as much.
Still got a lot of work to do, but I feel like I'm getting there. Sadly, I could have recognised a lot of what this guy is doing in my driving not that long ago. Please keep putting these out, it's surely helping others a lot.
7:13 "The best driver since sliced bread". Imagine casually walking down the street and seeing a loaf of Hovis driving along showing everyone how it's done.
I can't ever imagine a loaf of Hovis doing that - but one of those Jackson's Seeded Bloomers? Yeah - that's possible.
@@Unfunny_Username_389 True, anything labelled champion must just be excellent at many things.
You're right, Hovis just doesn't sound like a very good driver, then again, you can't really judge from a name.
This guy definitely had a cob on!
It's the yeast it could do! Don't rise to the humour, flour!
I’m glad that IAM are looking into this. In all of those clips I did not see one single element of advanced driving. I haven’t done IAM, I’ve done RoSPA, however the fundamental principles remain the same - cammer has a chip on his shoulder, his “qualification” has gone to his head, yet advanced drivers are told to constantly self evaluate and be critical of ones own driving!
Wow! That's outrageous driving, I'm sure the IAM would be very interested to see this driver's clips!
A big part of being a good driver is handling the errors of other people
Sometimes I watch dashcam complilations and will see multiple submissions from the same user and wonder how they seem to have so many clips to share. I know I don't drive anywhere near as much as I did before Covid, but I certainly didn't come across so many displays of bad driving myself.
I wonder if it's because some people find themselves in so many of these situations because of the way that they drive themselves.
The practice of defensive driving is a very important thing to do. Not just for yourself, but for everyone. There is no point forcing your way into a situation only to make it worse and utlimately rise blood pressure.
Well said
I'm currently driving in rural Lincolnshire, now I am sure that the standard of driving is exactly the same country wide, but living out in the sticks the driving one encounters is much more polite. I've had a dashcam a year and had one notable incident worth keeping. But should I drive down to my old haunts around Watford I would get ten or more just driving across town.
It may be the driver, it may also be the pressured driving environment they find themselves in.
At 4:30 “Overtaking there was ridiculous”. Yes it was.... I successfully prosecuted a driver (a BMW !) for the same manoeuvre. His defence was that a bee flew in through his open window and distracted him.... he eventually plead guilty to dangerous driving. Top tip, the more paint on the road the more dangerous the environment. To have slowed down and progressed through the complicated junction at an appropriate distance and speed would have lost a few seconds only.
Again a clear thoughtful and impartial analysis, well done. Thanks. This keeps everyone on their toes when driving. Courtesy is a powerful tool in the drivers kit.
Just been through the other comments, wow, thought I was being a wee bit cruel, other keyboards must be dripping with vitriol! But, honestly, he is deserving of every criticism. And yes, first clip the car in front DID brake test him...time to ease off the right foot and put some distance between the vehicles. Coming off the motorway, those fancy direction arrows are warning of a tight bend, not to approach at such a speed as to end up ploughing through one! He'd get a surprise if he tried that on some roads in France, I've come across quite a few they must have tested with an F1 car, I soon learned, after entering one at just under the recommended max.speed, and thinking I wasn't gonna make it round the curve!
I think that you have raised two valid points
1. Quite often the driver of the vehicle with camera is as guilty of doing something wrong as the other driver - I see it time and time again in compilation videos that come up on Facebook.
2. How many videos shared only show the section that they want you to see? You don't seen the build up or the aftermath - EG the part were the person with the camera did something wrong.
Wooooaahh! Driving at people at 70mph because you don't like what they're doing - what's that about?
I'm sure most IAM observers who I'm sure do great work would be horrified and this isn't representative. When did your viewer take his IAM test and when did he qualify as an observer? I'd be interested to see if the IAM themselves have any comment on this.
I'll declare an interest in that I went for the RoSPA advanced test myself and am now a voluntary tutor for them. RoSPA requires a retest every three years, which feels like an advantage (until about a month before your retest anyway :) ). But that's not to denigrate the IAM at all, quite the opposite; we're both in the same game - helping people who want to improve their driving and gain more enjoyment from it and so improving road safety. Although I understand IAM don't require a retest I believe they do encourage them and have introduced further qualifications for drivers who want to develop beyond their standard test. So I'm just a bit shocked by these clips.
@James Stewart They are both based on Roadcraft. Any perceived differences are down to local groups/individuals. The core principles are the same. (PS. You'd fail your ministry test if you didn't drive at the posted limit if it was safe to do so).
I work with an IAM observer who has a stick up his ass about driving standards he would be mortified if he seen a fellow IAM driver doing this kind of nonsense.
@James Stewart Having done both , they are not so different ; in old days IAM was more or less Rospa Silver ( or LSD class 2 ) ; Rospa Gold ( LSD Class 1 ) was higher and Bronze was technically a 'pass' but not great .
Well done in highlighting this. You did the right thing. IAM observers are very well intentioned amateurs JT this sort of driving is totally unacceptable. As a pro driving instructor and a national IAM observer cars and m/bikes I can concur with your analysis of these clips. This person has evidently a huge ego and a holier than thou attitude. He/she would fail any driving test let alone IAM or RoSPA. Thanks for showing this. IMO you are a great example to drivers of all levels.
The issue is nothing to do with "skills" it is attitude. Could be very highly skilled but use those skills to take risks.
Spot on, I know a few people who are normally very good drivers, until someone does something they don't like, then they get angry. Driving angry can be deadly. Luckily, over the years I've personally chilled out, someone cuts me up nowadays I just give them a friendly wave 😁
Thank you for uploading. After passing car and later motorbike test, my instructors taught me to look at my own roadcraft before pointing the blame at others. Opens your eyes when you are asked what you could have done to prevent an incident. Trying my best everyday even though it is never as good as instructors like yourself....maybe one day.
I used to get hot under the collar when I see other motorists drive inconsiderately and react badly but I learnt to keep my cool as best as I can.
You can't control what other people do, like the idiot in the Dacia (1st clip). Best let them carry on and keep your distance.
I did my IAM driver's course about 14 years ago. I had the misfortune to have 1 session with a worse than useless Observer, who was sitting in the rear seat, evaluating another Observer who was in the front passenger seat... Luckily for me, my future sessions were with a the front passenger who was also a Police instructor.
All that glitters aint gold.
These self righteous 'good drivers ' are all legends in their own minds!
35 years as an ADI, ( now retired) I hope he takes note of your comments, and maybe takes a look at his own driving.
I do think the roads have changed a lot in recent years, and not in a good way, it now seems a very me first attitude and no thought of the consequences. Keep up the good work Ashley
The eye opening thing for me is that in the motorway clip, his speed never drops below 70mph, he cuts up the lorry in the offside lane AND drives into a situation where the cars in lanes 1 and 3 are closing a gap (and do well to avoid each other)
Glad that most comments recognise that if the cam car driver is an IAM Observer he is an isolated 'bad apple'. IAM Roadsmart teach among other aspects of more skillful driving- keep calm, anticipate trouble and keep away from it.
In every situation I started by imagining that Ashley is driving and as soon as I am convinced Ashley wouldnt act how they did I drink. :) pretty hammered ngl
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Either way this guy just has a hugeeee ego and that IAM membership is not helping him thinking he is always in the right as he passed the test. Problem with many as shown on this channel. Very helpful to upload btw thank you now everyone knows who to look out for: its not just the idiots that dont look or take priority its also those that increase the risk without a thought of mitigation that cause the biggest problems.
Reminds me of the guy that attempted to overtake a tractor that was around a bend without slowing once and thinking about it and when he saw his tractor's signal it was too late and abs barely saved him enough time to move his head out of the way of the pillar of a pole that impaled his headrest through the windshield
Ashley, I've been bingeing your videos for the last few days, love your content. I've started driving with an imaginary Ashley Neal on my shoulder now, has helped massively to help iron out those little negative traits that creep in when your been driving for such a long time, but also has helped to keep me calm when previously I might get a bit irate at idiot drivers. Thanks for everything you do mate, keep it up.
That guy has some serious issues.
As a driver myself of 30 years , i still learn a lot from your channel . thanks 😊
“This guy’s got some big, big problems”
- Including breaking the speed limit in a 40mph zone !
Spot on analysis there Ashley. I did an IAM course over 10 years ago when I was a bus driver. It was very much on the defensive driving techniques. I think it definitely helped me at the time. I like to think I am a good driver, but nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes sometimes, however road rage is the fastest way to let your driving go bad!
Love to see the senders response to this video
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Almost goes off road there, presumably focussing on looking at the car he's mad at. Or, the tears in his eyes hampered his view.
Don't worry about losing a subscriber. I've only just stumbled onto this channel (I've seen both your videos about the cyclist being hit - the jumping the red light and the follow up from the cyclist's point of view).
Both of those I loved but this one made me subscribe!
It's so nice having someone who is brutally honest for once. If you're ever in an accident, being PC is not going to spare you! I'd rather hear the (sometimes hurtful) truth and avoid being actually hurt.
Thanks and greetings all the way from Invercargill, New Zealand!
Wow, I didn't expect to be one of the first viewers. I am normally like 2 hours late. However great video as always, keep up the good work Ashley. The 'camer', I felt was definitely in the wrong in a lot of them. Very dangerous, at moments I thought I was going to watch a crash.
Safety is key! I'm hgv and we have to make allowances for poor driving! I may flash or honk to bring attention to my presence on the road! But NEVER in a road rage or I'm telling u off! That just makes them mad and the situation just goes from bad to really dangerous! Amazing to think this guy could learn from me!
Before lockdown I was starting out doing the IAM course, from what I did this guy cannot be an observer. Its basics are about safe progress, good positioning, forward planning and anticipation. That last word is the most significant one that is missing from this claimed observer’s skill set (clearly all are in short supply) Anticipation allows a degree of tolerance to other’s mistakes, we all make them whether you’re an IAM observer, ADI, PDI or regular driver, when faced with other driver’s mistakes we all need to do as you always say Ash, chill out.
Lastly, IAM observer my a**e!
I love this Channel.
I was taught by a man who taught me to be a defensive driver.
Not just for me to drive somewhere for me but to drive with the mindset of the drivers around me.
Mistakes can and will happen and for me its usually speed,junctions and merging that are the usual suspects.
I also see a lot of other types of vids that show a lot of the time that there seems to be a real anger problems with say bad merging and the like.
Your explanations i think are very good at looking at the full picture.
I have subbed and looking forward to more stuff.
With that type of driving, I think his licence needs taking away and gets suspendered from driving for 2 years min, Disgusting.
Totally agree. I watch these kind of complication videos sometimes, often at least a quarter are a fuss about nothing, or they are the worse driver. Respect and subscribed. 👍
That cammer is _not_ an IAM observer. IS NOT.
Correct. And the notion that anyone would believe they were is hilarious.
The IAM are quite precious about who uses their name, probably quite understandably. They insist their car badges are covered up if a non member is driving it.
johno4521 Unfortunately, I doubt there’s anything the IAM can do about who has a badge on their car or bike. You can buy these badges on eBay (or it could be the spouse of an IAM who’s driving the vehicle).
@@The-Splat :-))) The roads are full of eBay advanced drivers...!
Wow, Ashley has said that IAM have confirmed he is one of theirs. Shocked.
I imagine he's the sort of driver I encounter every week, who wants to do 30 in a 20, then 40 in a 30.
Shocking driving.
Perhaps the I.A.M. ought to see the footage and reconsider his position
You are completely correct - IAM MYARSE! Well done for bringing this out. I have just learned plenty more from a fool than I am likely ever to learn otherwise... whilst a wise driver learns from others' mistakes and a foolish driver learns from their own... an eejut driver takes no heed!
Like a lot of long term drivers, I have gotten into some bad habits. I love these videos they re educate and update. Well done Ashley and thanks for the videos
Ashley, just found your channel, many thanks. I gained a 1st class IAM pass a couple of years ago and the observer who helped me was excellent - by day he was an ambulance driver. He stressed that you should always stake the chance to "de-escalate" or remove risk from situations if you can. (it's a great course to take because we all become very casual over the years). The kind of driving shown here goes against everything the IAM would try to teach and I can't imagine he really is an observer.
He probably is an IAM observer. Problem I find with the IAM is that once you have passed the test, which is about an hour and a half long, you don't have to do any further tests. Also, as soon as you pass most local clubs try an encourage people in becoming an observer.
I know this is it happen to me. Passed my IAM test and without any further training was asked to become an observer, something that I honesty thought I wasn't qualified for.
Learning to pass the IAM test yourself is one thing, teaching someone else is a totally different story.
That said, I would definitely encourage people to do the advanced driving test, it teaches you the system of car control, something that was clearly missing in watching these clips!
Skill in driving is one thing but attitude is key to safe driving. I.A.M members are expected to be safe and courteous drivers, who are taught to make progress safely. The extra skills do help to make driving enjoyable and safe if used sensibly.
I did an I.A.M course back in 2000 I think, I enjoyed it so much that I did the RoSPA course as well. Some years later I ended up doing an emergent service driving course when joining the ambulance service and the skills I’d learned through the the help of volunteers from both the I.A.M and RoSPA really came in useful.
When I watched the video and the drivers complete lack of restraint and responsibility for his potentially dangerous behaviour it shocked me. This behaviour is in no way representative of those people who join advanced driving groups at their own expense, develop their own skills and then go out of their way to help others achieve the same. I’m glad the decision was taken to report this individual
His driving is appalling, no way he should be an IAM observer, if anything it's him that needs his driving to be observed
Yes , by the police
this channel is great, if everyone followed ashley neal's advice then our roads would be a lot safer and calmer.
Someone is trolling you
The problem with the IAM is that it instills in its members that they're better drivers than other people, so it means they feel they can take the liberty of driving faster and less safely. My mum's driving, while impressive technically, is definitely not safe at times despite her qualification. Been pulling her up on it more now I've seen this channel as she sometimes comments on my own driving trying to make me drive less safely for the sake of speed or as she puts it "making progress", like I don't also want to drive as quick as I (safely) can.
If he's an IAM observer then this is absolutely shocking. Mine would be horrified by this as would any real advanced driver. This is quite simply dangerous driving 😫
Seriously I'd rather have a new P plater teach me how to drive than this knobhead.
@@wetlettuce4768 I'm inclined to agree. I would rather have you, a wet lettuce, show me how it's done
Another great video.
Whether or not he's some sort of instructor himself, it's quite scary that he can be so confident in his actions that he's willing to send the vids in for approval. His driving was truly shocking!
First clip Hennef Way Banbury is a 50 MPH limit so he's 26 MPH over!
I like watching these videos, not only does it highlight that slowing down is the best option quite often but it also allows me to associate the odd action with what I do, I'm guilty of wanting bad drivers behind me on a motorway providing I don't have to break the speed limit to do so.
I've had my driving license since I was 17, I'm nearly 50 and I'm a practicing driver, I don't know it all and I'm constantly looking to be a better driver.
Did you notice that at the end of one of the clips, he went through a forty mph sign doing 45?.
he was doing 53 in the 50 zone for a good distance too.
He did 76 in a 50 limit in the first clip.
Spot on analysis. 90% of videos I see the person with camera makes the situation worse or doesn’t react appropriately.
This video has one dislike hahahah, i wonder who that is....
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If he watched this, I bet he was FUMING! 😁
And 7 of his mates now
Completely agree with you on this. Difference between people learning to drive and assuming to improve (and seeking you're knowledge on the best approach to situations that are difficult), but when a person uses their title or position to suggest they're right when clearly they aren't, they should be told off. We're all learning, even the advanced
At no point does this 'driver' show any IAM characteristics in his driving. To send these clips in for comment clearly shows he's either not been coached properly or just doesn't drive to the system. No competent driver having passed their IAM test would drive like this as safety and defensive driving are two of the mainstays of advanced driving.
I'm late to this party, but I saw a follow on video, so glad to finally have some perspective on it. Glad he turned out not to be an IAM observer. His driving may not have been the initiator of many of the incidents in the video, but he certainly contributed to making the situation a lot more dangerous in a lot of the clips. I hope he has sought out better driving education since this was released, because if he keeps driving like that it's only a matter of time before someone ends up dead.
Went on IAM Motorbike course with 2 taster rides ,first with a police biker, brilliant guy and taught me a few things but at the end told me I was a good safe rider, second time with a IAM observer, told me off for not filtering through Wetherby town centre on a busy Saturday morning with shoppers and mums with prams trying to cross the road between traffic stopped at lights, I didn't deem it safe, second tell off was slowing and stopping when lights changed to amber, he passed me and went through on red !!!!!, when ride was finished he said I needed work as I didn't make progress, didn't take bends properly etc, been riding motorcycles since I was a kid, early years trials and motocross plus on and off 30 years on the road only once coming off on a bend once due to diesel, needless to say I never went back,what he was telling me to do I deemed dangerous
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I did the car course and felt similarly. It was just devoid of common sense! No matter how many techniques and skills and badges you have, common sense is your best tool on the road. Advanced driving/riding isn't a set of rigid techniques, or blindly following a rule book, and it isn't something we do with our hands and feet. It's about using your brain, and some people don't seem to grasp this.
Fully agree with you Ashley, I recently started watching some Dash Cam clips and was appalled by the poor standard of driving, not only by the drivers that were the subject of the clips, but also the poor standard that some of the Dash Cam drivers themselves showed, aggressive horn use, swearing, steering wheel punching, insane shouting, tailgating, cutting in sharply, and in some cases the total lack of awareness of the developing situation that some of the Dash Cam owners showed made most of the incidents much worse.
Looks like he’s not really getting the dashcam content he craves so is charging about trying to create some.
Glad you called him out. Blows my mind seeing some of the submissions on these types of channels
Have you Googled his name and verified he is an Observer with one of the local groups?
I recently drove from the northern most part of Scotland(Scrabster) to West Yorkshire and, after a weeks holiday, I drove back. My overriding thought is always, get were I'm going safely and reasonably relaxed.
It's drivers, like this cammer, that cause a lot of problems on our roads.... fast, expensive car, an equally fast temper with an over-inflated ego to match their temper. That ego that needs to be the first or ahead, punishes other drivers for slight mistakes, all while committing bigger, dangerous mistakes attempting to punish them. My philosophy is to just let them drive past, ease off a little and watch them gain distance knowing, if they do cause an accident, I'm nowhere near them.
He seems to be a tad bit impatient and very unsafe...he also speeds excessively and doesn't slow for the speed limit or speed of the road
I love it when people send in videos of themselves breaking the speed limit
Theres no need for his driving hes driving like a entitled nob hes just closing gaps and going 80 in an advisory limite it tends to be advisory for a reason like a sharp sudden bent
Advisory limits are generally completely ignorable in normal weather. I go through each one of them once at the advised limit to make sure it's not a hairpin, then ignore them completely in future.
@@Asdayasman yh I do the same unless its wet or not safe if I know the road
I think the one at 4:30 was the only one that was reasonable. I don't think stopping from 50 mph (which, unlike in most others, seemed a fairly reasonable speed) was necessarily possible in that space. Solid white line or not, avoiding a collision is a perfectly good reason to go offside.
I don’t understand why anybody would send clips of themselves breaking the speed limit to a channel that’s all about road safety.
I know, right? If I was driving that car, I could forgive the other drivers who did something wrong here but some of what he does is pretty unforgivable and downright shocking. I wouldn't want to be his passenger!
Only 1 mistake by a driver other than the operator was the double lane over at 4:07.....everything else was the IAM. Every single thing that they did would have had a police car pulling them over, here in the states, for aggressive driving.
Not a very good advert for the IAM, of which I'm a member. I hope this doesn't put anyone off joining the IAM, I'm sure any IAM member would be appalled by his driving. I'm also a member of RoSPA Advanced Drivers. Not saying that RoSPA is better than the IAM but they do grade Bronze, Silver, Gold rather than the simple pass or fail of the IAM, and you do also have to do a refresher test every 3 years which keeps you on your toes. When I did my Observer's test with the IAM in 1990 the training was very comprehensive, about 30 hours of theory and 30 hours of practical delivered by a Police Driving Instructor - and that was in addition to the training to pass the Advanced Test in the first place. But that was the policy of the local group at the time. Despite all the test passes that I've had (Observer and Senior Observer with the IAM and 9 or 10 RoSPA tests, all at Gold level) I never think of myself as a 'good' driver, rather 'capable of improvement'. Something the driver in this video could perhaps take on board.
Well said. I see advanced/defensive driving as being all about allowing time and space, including for others mistakes and your own.
You are spot on. He is a typical outraged driver. Driving with the wrong emotions, and the total lack of anticipation and element of foresight.
I bet he's the kinda guy that torments learners too.
I used to be a member of the IAM as I thought it would help me improve my driving through learning additional skills and techniques for the road under the mentorship of more experienced IAM members, but quickly learned that the IAM unfortunately attracts a certain number of adenoidal gits who are not interested in any of that but want to impose the rules in their heads on other road users. I am no longer a member of the IAM.
Many of them are an accident waiting to happen because they have got it into their heads that their observational skills are infallible, so refuse to check blindspots (because they would have seen someone move into that area before). Some of them have taken the sensible rule of "don't use your indicators where it isn't necessary, because you might distract attention from someone who needs be indicating" as "only indicate if you deem another road user worthy of it. My observation skills are infallible so it's impossible that I may have misunderstood another road user's intentions!"
I suspect there are some former and current IAM members currently nodding along to this.
I recognize the roads in these clips from my home town of Banbury, now you know what I have to put up with on a daily basis. I sure the guy's fuel economy must be sky high driving that fast on top of all the other bad driving he exhibits.