Often after watching one of these driving fail videos it depresses me how disgusting many people's attitudes are towards others. Too many are just completely absorbed in their own self-entitlement.
I did a trip at 7am a few days ago into town on my cycle. Traffic quite busy. Most cars were fine but a few cars just did not want to wait behind me for a sec and did very close passes. What often happens is that drivers following then give me extra wide room, as if to make a point to the driver in front for how it should be done. The police could sort out these drivers with harsher penalties if they wanted. They could bring an end to it quickly I reckon. And these same drivers are no doubt treating other drivers badly too. Like you say, they just do not care. That is what I pick up from them.
Key thing as Ashley says is to keep calm and patient. Let it go. Keeping the mood patient and not getting distracted by what happened in the past is needed for safety.
@@andrewnorris5415 I wish I found his channel years ago before I learned to be patient on my own but I'm glad to see there is a dashcammer out there like myself that is calm and does not act out like many people with dashcams do.
@@andrewnorris5415 same here I find most are good drivers with no issue but a few are simply usesless and will cut me off at point blank then when I hit my horn stop in my lane and the turning lane.
The frame rate synchronization with the wheel rotation around 4:44 made me think they were just gliding on the road. (Sorry, slow day at the office for me :) )
The most satisfying for me is when they appear to be going slowly backwards. I think when I was younger I sat in the car in a particular car park watching the traffic driving past on the road through those pedestrian barriers with the close spacing vertical bars for the same affect. :)
Frightening the number of smaller vehicle road users that charge alongside HGV's in situations like this when the HGV blind spot changes. Also consider the driver has one pair of eyes therefore can only look in one mirror at once, unless they are like the late Marty Feldman!! Give the HGV room as shown by Ashley, it's not difficult and it's in your best interest; not even a Range Rover will win against an HGV!!
How important it is to eliminate distractions when having to deal with more demanding situations, including stopping talking, switching off radio/music if necessary. This business of trying to intimidate other drivers into driving as badly as they do is endemic. For me it's the difference between a relaxing drive to or from work and a less than pleasant one. Many of them won't back off when it's obvious that you're not going to be influenced by them. I wonder how many accidents have been caused by drivers being intimidated into making less than optimal decisions.
@@TheRip72 Exactly. There's this one intersection right after a railroad crossing that often causes a queue because traffic going straight have priority over traffic wanting to turn. Last week a woman got irate because she decided to queue up on the railroad crossing when the lights went on and the barriers went down. Of course in her mind everyone but herself was to blame for the predicament she found herself in. Am not letting myself get intimidated into running over cyclists and pedestrians because someone back in the queue was stupid enough to line up on the tracks when there clearly was no room to cross it.
I love your channel Ashley! I love watching competent drivers and riders. And watching mistakes helps me learn what not to do, but also to be preemptive about what others might do, especially when I am riding the motorbike.
ashley, i passed my driving test yesterday, first time. your videos helped me a lot while i was a learner driver. now i get to swap my L plates for N plates for the next two years! i'm always learning from your videos, thanks for all the content you put out 🙂
i love it when I get beeped by an impatient sod.(usually a plumbers van) I suddenly become a pensioner... I drive a few mph under the speed limit.. 27 in a 30 etc I'll wait an extra 2 secs when the lights go green and I become more willing than normal to let people out. It really winds them up..
Had a mate who would stop, switch off the engine and very calmly walk back to ask what was the problem and how could he help. Being 6 foot 8 was a massive advantage for him…
with the tanker lorry, I prefer to do that in all junctions where the path is turning, no matter the other vehicle, because it's a common place for people to wander out of their lane. if you're not alongside, you can't be bumped.
Good to see you giving that tanker truck space, it always amazes me how people put themselves in situations where they are right next to big trucks and in their blind spots, a risky places to be and also makes like more difficult for those trucks to turn if everyone did as you did things would move much smoother for everyone.
OMG, a driving instructer teaching patience and speed control of arrival at a hazard. I was convinced driving instructors had abandoned such teaching, my kid failed her driving test for not accelerating out of a junction, because her instructor taught her not to. Brilliant. Thanks for sharing.
9:18 gotta laugh at the guy in the hotpoint van shouting what looks like "come on" at you while you are approaching a busy junction to turn right, like what does he think you are gonna do there just cut across oncoming traffic.
That guy really embarrassed himself. Like clearly there were cars coming and even if there’s a small gap it’s not worth risking it, he must’ve been in rush as usual with these types of drivers. Saving a few seconds really is so important to them 😂
The 2nd clip with the Volvo at the roundabout. I see that often. And the issue is if you yourself do it the correct way, you practically get "hurried up" by a car behind that wants to do it the same way the Volvo did. I'm actually sometimes worried they will end up doing a "pit manoeuvre" on me as we go around.
That has almost happened to me whilst cycling, I had my arm outstretched to clearly signal and everything... and they beeped me for it. They cut the roundabout to overtake, almost hit me and blamed me. I do think there's a bit of 'two wheels' prejudice there though.
@@David_Trowbridge Because you could easily miss a pedestrian about to cross that road who isn't expecting someone to go the wrong way around a roundabout.
I occasionally have to drive to and from Bootle for work (making the most of the Triad before it falls down), and find the roads in and out bewildering. Lots of situations like at 09:00 where the road is just wide enough for two cars but it's not clear whether it is actually two lanes or one extra wide lane. sometimes it will be marked as two, other times it wont be and it'll change in the blink of an eye
I'd treat it as one lane as it has no centre line, but most treat it as two lanes. It's not uncommon to see cars driving alongside a lorry wondering why their car is in the oncoming lane, not realising the lane isn't big enough for just one wide vehicle lol.
As a bus driver who regularly goes down Southport Road, thank you for giving the lorry the extra space. I say that just as someone who drives a bigger vehicle. Earlier today I had a Fiat Punto holding its horn down because I was straddling both lanes when coming off one of those Southport Rd roundabouts... they are extra tight with railings on your left-hand side when coming off, so you have to swing out wider. Instead of cutting across the last second, we just straddle from the beginning. I think some of those roundabouts have hatched marking on the inside surrounded by a solid white line, but it still doesn't stop cars thinking they can use it to cut you up. Baffles me why people get on the nearside of large vehicles expecting all 40+ feet of their vehicle to stay completely within the lane.
These videos help me see how bad I am when it comes to pedestrians. A lot of the time, I stupidly think they are either not crossing or crossing slowly because they are being nice and letting me go but of course, they are not. I'm driving a big metal box at 30 mph towards them.
Seeing these clips of the instructor training sessions is amazing in gaining insight as to how you're thinking whilst you're instructing - the actions of other drivers that you're looking for as well as the actions of the future driver your instructing. Not to mention the fact that you're doing this whilst also being more aware than 99.99% of the other drivers on the road.
The clip with the learner beeping the pedisterian. I had a situation where I was sitting at lights on red with 2 or 3 cars in front and a pedisterian started to cross in front and I could see a motorbike about to pass down my right . I did give the pedisterian a beep to make them pause or step back. I only did for there saftey
7:00 I always stay at a trucks back corner when we arrive at same time to a corner or a roundabout incase they need extra space while turning, because I know their blind spot is basically the entire truck length next to them.
My driving has, I hope, improved considerably since subscribing to your channel some 2 years ago. I was thinking today, perhaps amusingly, that I'd like a big white board that says " Don't do that, Watch Ashley Neal on You Tube🤣" that I can hold up to errant drivers. Or a bumper sticker.
Thanks for all you do Ashley. That last one was indeed lethal. Peds can see the lights from the sides at night when they go onto stop and can see other cars slowing. They might easily miss the one nutter running the lights at speed and step out.
4:40 that Kia needs to look at its tyre tread slipping around the roads so effortlessly look 😂 Nice to see these instruction vids along side the educational ones, you're a very competent tutor
9:24 "hotpoint, the way you care." Training videos will be made using this man as an example of pure intellect. Aliens will be observing from the other side of a black hole and using this moment of concrete proof that we are an advanced civilisation worthy of invading. Stephen Hawking would be so proud that in this Hotpoint driver, a part of his amazing brain lives on.
I started creeping at a very blind junction when I got a green light and was immediately beeped by the car behind, presumably because I didn't shoot out of the road like a rocket as he probably would have done. Motorists and cyclists jump red lights, hence my caution.
What's the rationale behind creeping at the roundabout when it isn't clear at the start of the video? When I'm cycling, if someone pulls up to a turning ahead of me and keeps creeping, that looks the same to me as someone who hasn't seen me and is going to roll through the give way.
@@ashley_neal thanks. When I'm driving on a roundabout and a car waiting to enter ahead starts to move like this the most likely scenario is they're going to take the gap behind me. If they haven't actually seen me, the worst that's going to happen at roundabout speeds isn't going to be serious. If I'm riding on the roundabout though, it's a different story. It's more likely they haven't seen me, or they have but misjudged my distance or speed. But on a bike I can't afford to take the chance, so even though it's unlikely that the car ahead will pull out, I need to take action, which usually means slowing to assess intent.
The Audi overtaking on the roundabout….bmw did that to me the other week. I always check mirrors + over the shoulder before moving left, so not a prob. This video represents how it is mostly in Wiltshire where I am. Even that high speed overtake with signals! Happened to me the other night…in a 30 zone. Hesitate at a junction? Beep. Don’t go down the side of a truck on a tight bend? Beep.
On the subject of beeping. I live on a busy 30mph road. The characters who come down well in excess of 40mph and beep traffic emerging from the side roads. Sometimes not even that close. So punishment beeping when they’re way over the speed limit!!! Unbelievably IMO
I don't think the Audi did anything wrong there (aside from the overtake - i'd have hung back for ash to merge from the right hand lane on the exit). There were two lanes onto the roundabout and two lanes off of the roundabout.
Ash, I really like your emphasis on creeping forward and also slowing right down if for example there a car ahead of you at a roundabout etc. Always trying to keep moving (even if its slowly) rather than flying up to a junction and then having to come to a complete stop because you arrived 2 seconds too early etc. I'm trying to get this into my sons head (he's learning to drive) but its not easy to get him to appreciate why etc. Also at 12:26 (the taxi driver holding out the car to the right), just after you mentione the taxi at 12:21 you can see 2 cars pass you on your right hand side going over a chevroned area - I know its not a solid lined chevroned area but I was always told to not go into chevroned areas unless you have to (and simply wanting to keep going does not count as a "have to"). I have noticed my son does the same thing (going over non solid line chevroned areas) and he said he has been told to do it by his instructor to keep traffic flowing . If chevroned areas can be freely driven over, whats the point of them . Have the rules om chevroned areas (specifically non solid lines ones) changed since the late 1980s?
maybe a future video (if you haven't already done one) of when its ok to go into a chevroned area, and when its not - covering both broken and solid lined areas?
I did what you did with the lorrie at the traffic lights during built up traffic due to an accident. A bloke in the van behind wanted me to squeeze up the inside of the lorrie and sit in the middle of junction. Gaining us 10 feet, then only ro be blocked by the lorrie again. Which is why someone else did moments latter making the situation so much worse. Then literally 1 minute later the broken down vehicle was cleared and everything moved anyway. In that time the bloke in the van had left his vehicle twice and came to my window to try and get me to move 10 feet so he could move 10 feet and we could all block the junction even more.
I honestly love the way you control everything so calmly and honestly you have made me a better driver. But professional drivers of vans with company names on blasting horns on a road rage incident is something hopefully their boss would love to hear about as it is their name that’s associated with this impatient driver.
Last time I was out riding my motorcycle. I slowed down very gently as I approached a set of traffic lights. And the Nissan juke behind almost rear ended me. I was watching him all along he just wasn't willing to slow down at all. I didn't even brake maybe just slowed a little 1-2 mph is this what we're up against now.
That 2nd clip with the Volvo turning right at the roundabout is a specific pet hate of mine. It happens way too frequently. Sometimes people look like they're going to take the proper course round the roundabout but then turn in early and just go over the top of it instead which is just as bad. Would they try this on a regular roundabout?
Yep, it's equivalent to going the wrong way around. There's a mini RB near me where it happens all the time. It's a combination of lazy driving coupled with the knowledge that the chances of being caught are almost zero.
i must confess. I under took a learner today. it was a 3 lane ring road and it was in the middle lane going like 25 mph and the right lane was too busy to overtake. I should've been patient but for some reason the demons made me undertake and i feel horrible.
8:40 doesn't seem from the footage there's enough space for 2 vehicles comfortably travelling side by side. I would say I would be going bang on in the centre there.
Interested in the first clip, Ashley. Why would you creep forward at an island like that? Surely cars coming round the island can be unsettled by seeing your wheels moving, and likely have to brake thinking you're going to pull out on them?
I must admit when on my motorbike I hate to see the wheels in motion at a junction like that when someone is creeping as I have to assume the driver is starting to pull out. When I was learning I was told not to creep and that it was considered bad driving - this is going back to the late 80's though, so I'm guessing things have changed from that viewpoint or maybe that was just my instructors opinion.
I tend to agree with this. A moving car is an unpredictable car. By all means get into a spot that is safe but far enough out so you can see. However, it's good to stay stationary so show that you are waiting and not seeming impatient.
@@noggintube You are right! Either a driver should be stationery or be moving. Creeping is not nessecary and can confuse other drivers,which must be avoided. I would never teach a learner to do this.Ashley would be wise not to teach this to inexperienced drivers in my opinion. I am still waiting for Ashley to respond to my criticism of some of his instruction techniques...Silence so far.
The Volvo at the mini roundabout is the norm for here in Cornwall. It’s even done when all junctions have traffic waiting. At mini roundabouts here it’s always beware of the vehicles on your left
Gotta say mate, been driving for about a year now and I've picked up a lot from your videos on how much easier having patience and a better attitude to other road users (drivers or otherwise) makes things. There's a lot of nutters out there that need to sub to this channel :D Keep the content going pal.
Merge in turn strikes again! It's amazing how even truck drivers will straddle both lanes blocking everyone. Maybe it should be in the week long CPC course 🙂
You think the issue at 7:35 was a merge in turn? If you do, on what grounds? In your reply, please give time stamp of video and road position of other vehicles as well as what you can see.
@@radishpea6615 the issue is at 7:42; the Mercedes Sprinter up the arse of the flatbed, not letting the driver in lane 1 'merge in turn' thinking he is 'puishing in'. I can guarantee that if the traffic was crawling, he would block him from merging. Happens all the time...have a good day :)
@@rob103rl Go back to 7:32, where is the van? It is not until some seconds later Ashley indicates. Where is the van at 7:33, 7:34 and 7:35 all before Ashley indicates? Have you seen the road works by 7:35. At 7:23, I cant see it but it becomes apparent there are 2 left turns up ahead after the traffic lights, how does anyone in lane 2 know that traffic in lane 1 is not turning left? This is a case of Ashley looking to make something. If we had seen road work and or lane closure signs I may have some sympathy but it would not be a lot but we dont see any signs
General shout out to all the HGv drivers who daily make it " a non event" as ashley would say. In one day I've held back as a car cut into my lane at a roundabout because they have to get past , a private hire came round the back of me as I was reversing into a drop ( full lights , hazards, bleeper on ). and a more worrying trend of cars especially SUV's who can't seem to be able to stay in the centre of a lane, driving so close to the white line that any crosswind and I'm going to side swipe them. Keep spreading the word on HGV's Ash , it's not a non event when car meets lorry.
Ashley - in the very first clip, should you have let the man cross on the exit of the roundabout? I’m still a bit unclear about whether I should or shouldn’t, but I’m pretty sure I should when it’s safe.
Good timing with the Viofo ad and the review video which I'll have to watch too as I need to buy some new dashcams for my next car coming soon after 3 years of not really driving. Previously had a Viofo A119 for the last 6 months or so before my last car was written off in a rear end while I was passenger, but only had it on the front. Definitely getting front and rear coverage this time
For the beeping van, i would take a position of a little more to the right than in the middle, but not fully to the right. Since a lot of people think that if 2 cars fit beside eachother, then it’s a 2 lane road. If they cannot see it visually that you are pretty much next to them, then they it’s less likely for them to get mad at you when you are slowing down.
Have you noticed driving standards have gotten worse this last 3 years? never been cut up so much and encountered so many selfish people in all my life.
@@ResevoirGod Very simple! The standards of the Driving Standards Agency has gone down. The standard of driving instructors had gone down and the standard of examiners has gone down. The result is the degradation of driving standards over the last twenty years.
Re. beeping the pedestrian, I do think sometimes a little indication that a motor vehicle is approaching can help some pedestrians become aware of the dangers of just crossing the road, not looking and looking at their mobile phone. I will say that watching your channel has helped me become (I think) a better driver. I am now more aware of certain situations and the best way to avoid being involved. I have been driving for over 40 years and am not deluded into thinking I am a good driver just because I have never been involved in a collision. With your help I hope it stays that way! 😀
With the van/cyclist clip at 13:11, would you recommend using the horn in that situation? Or do you think it would cause too much confusion? I try to not use my horn but if it would be beneficial to use it in then I could try to condition myself to use it. I've already started on tight and blind bends on country roads thanks to this channel and would like to see it's utility increased from angry button for all drivers.
I find the most common use for the horn is cars straying over to my side of the road because the driver is distracted by something. It is a long blast because I am hoping that it wakes them up and the Doppler effect doubly so. Sadly, I see this probably weekly.
If I may offer another 2 wheeled perspective: Not sure how legal it is to warn on behalf of others and I can't speak for anyone else, obviously, but as a cyclist I'd be fine with you hitting the horn there. I should be already on to it, but if you honked I'd look across and then see the van. Whether I realise why you're honking is irrelevant, because I'd switch focus to the van (in other words, don't expect a thank you wave as the cyclist probably will put two and two together about 100m down the road haha). Sometimes if vehicles haven't clearly committed to leaving the other side of the road I don't notice it as early on the bike as I'd notice it in the car. I think there are two reasons for this: 1) I'm on the left of the lane while cycling whereas driving I'm closer to the action in the right of the car; 2) roads are much wider than you realize before cycling, so it's hard to keep aware of what's happening a world away even if it could be on top of you in a second. (For drivers, I'd liken this to being completely aware of what's happening in lane 1 on the opposite side of the motorway -- we probably should be, but we're not really).
@@unsafevelocities5687 My hope with hitting the horn would be to get the van driver to stop but thanks to your comment I’m now also thinking about it from the cyclist’s perspective. I have had similar scenarios happen before where I’ve been ready to hit the horn but haven’t needed to because the situation I was concerned about never materialised. If stops someone being hurt then I’ll worry about the legality of it after, I think.
Rule 112 allows you to use your horn when stationary "when another road user poses a danger". That covers the situation you describe, where you can see a dangerous situation developing, even when it doesn't look like it's going to involve you directly. I would not hesitate to use the horn here, that van driver needed to stop.
@@J1mston For some reason I never thought about the van stopping! You reminded me, something I've been working on myself recently is sounding the horn when I notice a hazard before a bad situation is happening rather than during it. I think it avoids the horn sounding retributive given that a toot-toot "I'm here" doesn't fit the road rage model.
had an audi driver behind me as we were going through a passthrough road, doing the 50mph speed limit and the guy genuinely tried to overtake as we were 5 seconds away from the roundabout, saw him creeping out but pulled back in cos of oncoming traffic. mind blowing.
At around 6:50 well done on all counts and taking every vehicle around you into consideration. Another key learning point here is to always consider how your own vehicle appears to other drivers and whether in fact you can be seen at all. Try not to linger in another road users blind spot for too long and if it's unavoidable, hold back as in this example..
I've not even watched the video yet, but that is a very sound bit of advice. Edit: I have now. I see so many get into blind spots & stay there, especially on a dual carriageway when they start to pass me then match my speed. It makes me adjust so they get back into view. Problem fixed but does everybody fix it?
When you consider the possibility that most people on the road are not road and driving enthusiasts and just study to pass a test, it's no surprise that this is how they drive.
Lots of great stuff in this video. One thing which all makes me chuckle is people waiting at a zebra crossing when there is no traffic. They wait until a vehicle comes along & stops before deciding to cross. 10:48 - 10:55. I know he's just looking out for his own safety but why not cross when the road is clear.
There will always be people driving past the crossing and not stopping even though you should stop and let pedestrians cross. When you’re the pedestrian, I’d wait until I know I’m not going to get hit by a car also, as I wouldn’t have a metal box protecting me, it just the fear of people NOT doing things right which happens more than it should.
Someone honked at me yesterday for wanting to reverse into my driveway. I pulled up on the left, left indicator on, reverse lights on. Cars were driving past me just fine (it's a wide road) but then for some reason one car pulled up behind me and honked at me to "go"... People always seem to get angry at others when it's their own poor planning, awareness, and impatience that causes the situations in the first place.
8:20 - didn't realise that the emergency services were: fire department, ambulance service, police & oven fitter Someone's pasta will go cold unless that van forces its way through traffic to make the ultra-urgent delivery!
Referring to the clip with the lorries, the number of times I see people entering junctions that cannot be cleared and end up causing delays at all entries to that junction.
So if approaching a roundabout where the lanes are marked left for left turn only. Central lane for straight on and right for tight turn. Using your theory of use all the space at what distance from the roundabout should you be in the correct lane for you chosen direction?
I'd be astonished if it were the learner who had beeped the pedestrian. When I was learning, it took all my concentration to do corners like that. I wouldn't have had the bandwidth to beep anyone.
The comment about the new year's diet going out the window was quite funny . I will need to watch this back again (never a bad thing;) to understand it better though.
I’ve watched many of your videos, and something I think you should consider is as a driving instructor you are the only driver on the road constantly putting 100% of your thoughts into perfecting your driving to the nth degree. Whereas for most others a car is a means of getting from a to b. They are more than likely thinking about what’s going on a work or home, they may be in a rush or having a bad day. That Hotpoint van driver may have been behind schedule and keen to get to his next location for a washing machine install. He will have forgotten his aggravation with you (justified or not) within minutes but you are the one getting home that evening and spending time on your computer downloading and editing the footage.
I've been beeped a few times for planning ahead, it's funny and annoying at the same time. @3.20 your student (and I'm surprised you didn't mention) , should have really checked his blind spot, I appreciate there was lots going on at the time, but this situation was all set up to be a classic for motorcycle filtering, with the build up of traffic, and first car turning right after a delay etc
@ashley_neal no worries, I'm happy to support your channel. I've been following you for a few years now. When I get some clips, you're the only channel I'll be sending them to
Hi Ashley,in the video you came over a bridge with a yellow box. How do you know it is clear to exit if you can't see over the bridge when you enter the box .
I had a weird situation on the way home yesterday where my left motorway lane was the only clear lane because it exited onto a sliproad, but before getting to the exit a car merged in front of me that was literally doing about 35mph and I was stuck behind them. But then this car behind me starts giving ME grief for driving slow?? Flashing their lights and beeping. Nothing I can do because it's the car in front so idk if they couldn't see that or what. Anyway all I could do was wait until there were 2 lanes and then overtake the slow car, with guy behind giving me another beep for my trouble and all. Whilst I agree the slow car was a risk and was holding up traffic, I'd never behave like this car behind me.
Terrible driving by the Hotpoint van, but the ****** road design doesn't help - it looks to be ~3.5 lanes wide, which unfortunately is always going to encourage impatient drivers to think they can squeeze through (the joint down the "middle" of the lane looking like it separates into 2 lanes doesn't help either). Needs to either be widened to 2 full lanes either side, or narrowed to make it clear it's only 2 lanes - maybe a nice bit of greenery down the middle?
Very good video, but at 13:11 there's more to this. The cycle is possibly obscured by the car ahead of it, and the low sun. The white van driver actually appeared to be quite careful, but low sun can catch out many. This is quite instructive about how careful you need to be in low sun conditions.
@@PedroConejo1939 Lights on at all times. A midday sun in front of you can make any vehicle including pedestrians ahead blend into the shadow buildings or trees, and become almost invisible.
The van driver didn't look properly. That cyclist was there to be seen - the problem is some drivers are looking at the middle of the road for cars, they don't consider looking towards the edge for bicycles. That's why the Highway Code Rule 72 now advises to cycle in the middle of the lane when crossing junctions. If I had been cycling there, I would have been fully in the centre of the lane so the following vehicle could not overtake and obscure the view of the junction.
3:35 man, I'm jealous of how much you talk to your student. I'm taking lessons right now and get maybe 10% of the advice you're expressing. Somehow doubt that I'm driving so well that nothing could be said 😅
(but also, very confused by what's said at 3:55. "Don't catch up, don't clutch down"? or is it "don't.... clutch down" as an instruction to actually use the clutch more? :P)
@@Anderkent by putting the clutch down the learner would have been bringing the car to a stop. by keeping it up it enables them to keep the car creeping slowly which is a much more efficeint way of driving than stopping everytime the car infront slows or stops
If you feel like you're not getting a quality education from your instructor then maybe you need to change your current instructor for a new one if possible. I remember one thing from one of my teachers way back in secondary school. He said something along the line of lessons being fun and how you are more likely to remember what you learned because it was fun. I remember my time with my instructor not just because he was a quality instructor, but because he was fun. He made lessons fun to do, even the ones I wasn't looking forward to such as parallel parking. He made them fun to do! This is coming from someone with learning difficulties I should add (autism).
Sorry to hear that. Feedback is good, but no so much you cannot process it. Nobody expects a learner to be perfect & none of us are, even after many years of driving. A tutor giving calm advice is a good one. Surely you are paying to learn from their advice?
@@wilfbm9067 Ah, right. I was thinking 'clutch down' as in bringing it from fully engaged to the bite point to creep forward, rather than disengaging fully. This makes sense. @Hikaru Yeah I might do that. While I've made good progress with this instructor from an absolute beginner over 10h of driving, now it just feels like supervised practice. I've never had them give me advice about when to change gears, or appropriate speed, etc.
with the learner beeping the pedestrian: I think if I was in the pedestrian's place I would have chosen to help the learner. tough enough to make a turn across traffic without a pedestrian deciding to cross just when there's a gap in traffic. and for a learner that's even more true.
6:11 I drive that junction near enough every day and there’s always some interesting driving going on around there. I often wish I had a dashcam so I could send you the clips from there!
Ashly, love your stuff, just wondering if you might do a compilation of videos where your more advance students do the talking, narrating their train of thought and action showing good learned driving skills. Not that your accent isn't heavenly :P Just that one of the things that my instructor really liked about me as I progressed was that he didn;t need to see what I was doing because I was telling him, and all he needed to do was point out the occasional odd hazard i may have missed as I hadn;t mentioned it.
2:33 "at the mistake the learner makes" I was looking at the rear view learner until I realised there's a learner ahead too. 😂 A learner surrounded by learners ha!
In response to 4:06, where the pedestrian is beeped for crossing, some clarity please: I am very aware of the highway code change which gives pedestrians priority at side roads, however, I did not believe this was the case at a traffic light controlled junction. Correct or not? My thought on this is that the traffic must flow as governed by the signals, and stopping at random in the middle of a junction when it is clear to the pedestrians and drivers that they have a 'go' light is illogical at best, and dangerous at worst.
5:05 you should teach to pull up to the line to cross the senors (black tar strips) near where i work the lights would not trigger green until the lady in front moved forward an extra foot.
In the first clip I’m not really sure there was problem really, regardless of the L markings on your vehicle (assuming they were there). The overall approach and junction was being made very very slowly, which is fine given the context going on in the car but to other road users it would be seen as a lack of progress. This the Audi approach and passed around the outside but not in a dangerous manner at all; I would say they were just leaving you to it. The alternative is to stack up behind you and get frustrated?
It seems drivers don't know what the horn is actually for, I drive a 26 tonne chemical lorry and the amount of times you get someone cutting the lane next to or infront is astounding, so you then sound the horn to say I'm here, don't come any closer, to which they reply with numerous blasts of their horn and then verbal and gestures!! I think in future I'll just let them get squished! Oh, I'd love to, but, too much paperwork, especially if there is a chemical spill!!!
That hot point van was ridiculous, his hand gesture at the light was the worst bit - what did he expect just crash through the traffic. Bizarre. Last week on the m5 all 3 lanes slowing I was in fast land o/t a lorry in middle lane, guy in van comes up behind going nuts that I was in his way, I pulled in (Not slowly to create a reaction) and the guy goes past throwing arms in air, and immediately has to brake for line of traffic in front. I literally despair of what he thought he was achieving.
Ashley, based on your video about "pinching an inch", I'd say the Volvo on the mini roundabout didn't do anything wrong. Visibility was fantastic and there was no traffic or pedestrian around. What's the issue?
My favourites are drivers who think they’re being helpful but they haven’t considered what else is going on around them and then they get uppity when you don’t take them up on it immediately because it’s not safe to do so
Such appropriate wording on that van. Hotpoint. The Way You Care. Notice the word YOU in the slogan. It's clear that driver doesn't care about other road users.
Often after watching one of these driving fail videos it depresses me how disgusting many people's attitudes are towards others. Too many are just completely absorbed in their own self-entitlement.
I did a trip at 7am a few days ago into town on my cycle. Traffic quite busy. Most cars were fine but a few cars just did not want to wait behind me for a sec and did very close passes. What often happens is that drivers following then give me extra wide room, as if to make a point to the driver in front for how it should be done. The police could sort out these drivers with harsher penalties if they wanted. They could bring an end to it quickly I reckon. And these same drivers are no doubt treating other drivers badly too. Like you say, they just do not care. That is what I pick up from them.
Key thing as Ashley says is to keep calm and patient. Let it go. Keeping the mood patient and not getting distracted by what happened in the past is needed for safety.
@@andrewnorris5415 I wish I found his channel years ago before I learned to be patient on my own but I'm glad to see there is a dashcammer out there like myself that is calm and does not act out like many people with dashcams do.
Sad but true. There are many arrogant and selfish people out there and being in a car draws these characteristics to the surface!
@@andrewnorris5415 same here I find most are good drivers with no issue but a few are simply usesless and will cut me off at point blank then when I hit my horn stop in my lane and the turning lane.
The frame rate synchronization with the wheel rotation around 4:44 made me think they were just gliding on the road. (Sorry, slow day at the office for me :) )
i noticed that too, kinda neat!
The most satisfying for me is when they appear to be going slowly backwards. I think when I was younger I sat in the car in a particular car park watching the traffic driving past on the road through those pedestrian barriers with the close spacing vertical bars for the same affect. :)
7:12 as an artic driver, I applaud you for this. Not even every artic driver considers this in their own car.
You mean 6:09 I think? Appreciate artic drivers taking time to watch this channel - shows an attitude for safety. Appreciate it!
@@andrewnorris5415, I comment at the end of the clip, saves time with more ads lol
@@paulcollyer801 What good is a timestamp if it's wrong?
@@BlurbFish, cos it was at the end of the said clip.
Frightening the number of smaller vehicle road users that charge alongside HGV's in situations like this when the HGV blind spot changes. Also consider the driver has one pair of eyes therefore can only look in one mirror at once, unless they are like the late Marty Feldman!! Give the HGV room as shown by Ashley, it's not difficult and it's in your best interest; not even a Range Rover will win against an HGV!!
How important it is to eliminate distractions when having to deal with more demanding situations, including stopping talking, switching off radio/music if necessary. This business of trying to intimidate other drivers into driving as badly as they do is endemic. For me it's the difference between a relaxing drive to or from work and a less than pleasant one. Many of them won't back off when it's obvious that you're not going to be influenced by them. I wonder how many accidents have been caused by drivers being intimidated into making less than optimal decisions.
So true. Just think of it as having a relaxing, enjoyable drive, not a competition.
Get beeped all the time for not moving onto the railroad crossing, bridge or intersection when queuing while there's no clearance on the other side.
Make your own decisions. Don't allow yourself to be intimidated.
Eventually you will learn to tune out drivers that beep because of impatience or think they know better than everyone else.
@@TheRip72 Exactly. There's this one intersection right after a railroad crossing that often causes a queue because traffic going straight have priority over traffic wanting to turn.
Last week a woman got irate because she decided to queue up on the railroad crossing when the lights went on and the barriers went down.
Of course in her mind everyone but herself was to blame for the predicament she found herself in.
Am not letting myself get intimidated into running over cyclists and pedestrians because someone back in the queue was stupid enough to line up on the tracks when there clearly was no room to cross it.
If they want to go past and get stuck there I guess they have that option ;)
Brave to be driving a company van like that!
Ironically, company van drivers seem to be worse than unmarked van drivers...
Wouldn't have had Ashley's patience myself, brakes would've been pressed.
Ikr looks very bad on their business!
I love your channel Ashley! I love watching competent drivers and riders. And watching mistakes helps me learn what not to do, but also to be preemptive about what others might do, especially when I am riding the motorbike.
Ashley's composure is very admirable in these situations, many should take notes
ashley, i passed my driving test yesterday, first time. your videos helped me a lot while i was a learner driver. now i get to swap my L plates for N plates for the next two years! i'm always learning from your videos, thanks for all the content you put out 🙂
i love it when I get beeped by an impatient sod.(usually a plumbers van)
I suddenly become a pensioner... I drive a few mph under the speed limit.. 27 in a 30 etc
I'll wait an extra 2 secs when the lights go green and I become more willing than normal to let people out.
It really winds them up..
Oh god yes... IF I have an appallingly impatient driver behind me I will let everyone out, stop for every pedestrian I can, etc...
Had a mate who would stop, switch off the engine and very calmly walk back to ask what was the problem and how could he help. Being 6 foot 8 was a massive advantage for him…
with the tanker lorry, I prefer to do that in all junctions where the path is turning, no matter the other vehicle, because it's a common place for people to wander out of their lane. if you're not alongside, you can't be bumped.
Good to see you giving that tanker truck space, it always amazes me how people put themselves in situations where they are right next to big trucks and in their blind spots, a risky places to be and also makes like more difficult for those trucks to turn if everyone did as you did things would move much smoother for everyone.
OMG, a driving instructer teaching patience and speed control of arrival at a hazard. I was convinced driving instructors had abandoned such teaching, my kid failed her driving test for not accelerating out of a junction, because her instructor taught her not to. Brilliant. Thanks for sharing.
Nice video.
Yesterday I got beeped for going 20... in a 20.
Proabably worth mentioning that I still have P plates on my car.
Honestly I don't think P plates should exist. If you aren't confident in driving without them you should go book another test
P plates just give other drivers an excuse to give you more grief
@@chameleonedm OMG
@@danielleforder OMG
@@danielleforder As I have found out lol. The majority of drivers give me more space, it's just a loud minority that don't, at least where I live.
6:50 - Hold on this isn't a driving fail, that's driving mastery by yourself Ash!
Brilliant driving by Ash.
9:18 gotta laugh at the guy in the hotpoint van shouting what looks like "come on" at you while you are approaching a busy junction to turn right, like what does he think you are gonna do there just cut across oncoming traffic.
In a company branded van, a big company as well.
That guy really embarrassed himself. Like clearly there were cars coming and even if there’s a small gap it’s not worth risking it, he must’ve been in rush as usual with these types of drivers. Saving a few seconds really is so important to them 😂
The 2nd clip with the Volvo at the roundabout. I see that often. And the issue is if you yourself do it the correct way, you practically get "hurried up" by a car behind that wants to do it the same way the Volvo did. I'm actually sometimes worried they will end up doing a "pit manoeuvre" on me as we go around.
Yeah I personally don't see a problem in doing that if no one is nearby
@@ZombiezGamingHD same, no one effected so why make a fuss?
That has almost happened to me whilst cycling, I had my arm outstretched to clearly signal and everything... and they beeped me for it. They cut the roundabout to overtake, almost hit me and blamed me.
I do think there's a bit of 'two wheels' prejudice there though.
@@David_Trowbridge Because you could easily miss a pedestrian about to cross that road who isn't expecting someone to go the wrong way around a roundabout.
Errrrr because it’s illegal, unless driving a vehicle that’s incapable of passing around the markings correctly.
And the holding back in the clip with the tanker IS appreciated by us as well.
I occasionally have to drive to and from Bootle for work (making the most of the Triad before it falls down), and find the roads in and out bewildering.
Lots of situations like at 09:00 where the road is just wide enough for two cars but it's not clear whether it is actually two lanes or one extra wide lane. sometimes it will be marked as two, other times it wont be and it'll change in the blink of an eye
I'd treat it as one lane as it has no centre line, but most treat it as two lanes. It's not uncommon to see cars driving alongside a lorry wondering why their car is in the oncoming lane, not realising the lane isn't big enough for just one wide vehicle lol.
As a bus driver who regularly goes down Southport Road, thank you for giving the lorry the extra space. I say that just as someone who drives a bigger vehicle.
Earlier today I had a Fiat Punto holding its horn down because I was straddling both lanes when coming off one of those Southport Rd roundabouts... they are extra tight with railings on your left-hand side when coming off, so you have to swing out wider. Instead of cutting across the last second, we just straddle from the beginning.
I think some of those roundabouts have hatched marking on the inside surrounded by a solid white line, but it still doesn't stop cars thinking they can use it to cut you up.
Baffles me why people get on the nearside of large vehicles expecting all 40+ feet of their vehicle to stay completely within the lane.
These videos help me see how bad I am when it comes to pedestrians. A lot of the time, I stupidly think they are either not crossing or crossing slowly because they are being nice and letting me go but of course, they are not. I'm driving a big metal box at 30 mph towards them.
Seeing these clips of the instructor training sessions is amazing in gaining insight as to how you're thinking whilst you're instructing - the actions of other drivers that you're looking for as well as the actions of the future driver your instructing.
Not to mention the fact that you're doing this whilst also being more aware than 99.99% of the other drivers on the road.
The clip with the learner beeping the pedisterian. I had a situation where I was sitting at lights on red with 2 or 3 cars in front and a pedisterian started to cross in front and I could see a motorbike about to pass down my right . I did give the pedisterian a beep to make them pause or step back. I only did for there saftey
7:00 I always stay at a trucks back corner when we arrive at same time to a corner or a roundabout incase they need extra space while turning, because I know their blind spot is basically the entire truck length next to them.
My driving has, I hope, improved considerably since subscribing to your channel some 2 years ago.
I was thinking today, perhaps amusingly, that I'd like a big white board that says " Don't do that, Watch Ashley Neal on You Tube🤣" that I can hold up to errant drivers. Or a bumper sticker.
Thanks for all you do Ashley. That last one was indeed lethal. Peds can see the lights from the sides at night when they go onto stop and can see other cars slowing. They might easily miss the one nutter running the lights at speed and step out.
4:40 that Kia needs to look at its tyre tread slipping around the roads so effortlessly look 😂
Nice to see these instruction vids along side the educational ones, you're a very competent tutor
9:24 "hotpoint, the way you care." Training videos will be made using this man as an example of pure intellect. Aliens will be observing from the other side of a black hole and using this moment of concrete proof that we are an advanced civilisation worthy of invading. Stephen Hawking would be so proud that in this Hotpoint driver, a part of his amazing brain lives on.
I started creeping at a very blind junction when I got a green light and was immediately beeped by the car behind, presumably because I didn't shoot out of the road like a rocket as he probably would have done. Motorists and cyclists jump red lights, hence my caution.
Car drivers also run red lights and they pose more of a danger.
@@lamf4846 Yes, I said "Motorists and cyclists jump red lights"
@@damienfenton3880 Cyclists never jump red lights, they just ignore them completely along with the rest of the highway code.
@@sahhull yawn
@@chrisb5824 same response cyclists give when they see the highway code lol 😆
What's the rationale behind creeping at the roundabout when it isn't clear at the start of the video? When I'm cycling, if someone pulls up to a turning ahead of me and keeps creeping, that looks the same to me as someone who hasn't seen me and is going to roll through the give way.
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@@ashley_neal thanks. When I'm driving on a roundabout and a car waiting to enter ahead starts to move like this the most likely scenario is they're going to take the gap behind me. If they haven't actually seen me, the worst that's going to happen at roundabout speeds isn't going to be serious.
If I'm riding on the roundabout though, it's a different story. It's more likely they haven't seen me, or they have but misjudged my distance or speed. But on a bike I can't afford to take the chance, so even though it's unlikely that the car ahead will pull out, I need to take action, which usually means slowing to assess intent.
The Audi overtaking on the roundabout….bmw did that to me the other week. I always check mirrors + over the shoulder before moving left, so not a prob.
This video represents how it is mostly in Wiltshire where I am.
Even that high speed overtake with signals! Happened to me the other night…in a 30 zone.
Hesitate at a junction? Beep.
Don’t go down the side of a truck on a tight bend? Beep.
That's the good thing about Audi drivers. They rarely let you down.
Yep had one pull out on me today a few metres from my bonnet. I saw it was a Audi so was prepared for silliness.
@@Sython6 Its not only Audi drivers but all German car drivers
On the subject of beeping. I live on a busy 30mph road. The characters who come down well in excess of 40mph and beep traffic emerging from the side roads. Sometimes not even that close. So punishment beeping when they’re way over the speed limit!!! Unbelievably IMO
Maybe the police should go "undercover" as driving instructors, catch out idiots like that Audi?
No resources to do this!
No time or money.They have problems solving all other crime.
This would be very low priority.
I don't think the Audi did anything wrong there (aside from the overtake - i'd have hung back for ash to merge from the right hand lane on the exit).
There were two lanes onto the roundabout and two lanes off of the roundabout.
2:10 - You wait hours for a learner and then three come along at once!
The one following you didn't seem to cut the corner, though.
Ash, I really like your emphasis on creeping forward and also slowing right down if for example there a car ahead of you at a roundabout etc. Always trying to keep moving (even if its slowly) rather than flying up to a junction and then having to come to a complete stop because you arrived 2 seconds too early etc. I'm trying to get this into my sons head (he's learning to drive) but its not easy to get him to appreciate why etc. Also at 12:26 (the taxi driver holding out the car to the right), just after you mentione the taxi at 12:21 you can see 2 cars pass you on your right hand side going over a chevroned area - I know its not a solid lined chevroned area but I was always told to not go into chevroned areas unless you have to (and simply wanting to keep going does not count as a "have to"). I have noticed my son does the same thing (going over non solid line chevroned areas) and he said he has been told to do it by his instructor to keep traffic flowing . If chevroned areas can be freely driven over, whats the point of them . Have the rules om chevroned areas (specifically non solid lines ones) changed since the late 1980s?
maybe a future video (if you haven't already done one) of when its ok to go into a chevroned area, and when its not - covering both broken and solid lined areas?
I did what you did with the lorrie at the traffic lights during built up traffic due to an accident. A bloke in the van behind wanted me to squeeze up the inside of the lorrie and sit in the middle of junction. Gaining us 10 feet, then only ro be blocked by the lorrie again. Which is why someone else did moments latter making the situation so much worse. Then literally 1 minute later the broken down vehicle was cleared and everything moved anyway. In that time the bloke in the van had left his vehicle twice and came to my window to try and get me to move 10 feet so he could move 10 feet and we could all block the junction even more.
I honestly love the way you control everything so calmly and honestly you have made me a better driver. But professional drivers of vans with company names on blasting horns on a road rage incident is something hopefully their boss would love to hear about as it is their name that’s associated with this impatient driver.
Last time I was out riding my motorcycle. I slowed down very gently as I approached a set of traffic lights. And the Nissan juke behind almost rear ended me. I was watching him all along he just wasn't willing to slow down at all. I didn't even brake maybe just slowed a little 1-2 mph is this what we're up against now.
That 2nd clip with the Volvo turning right at the roundabout is a specific pet hate of mine. It happens way too frequently. Sometimes people look like they're going to take the proper course round the roundabout but then turn in early and just go over the top of it instead which is just as bad. Would they try this on a regular roundabout?
Yep, it's equivalent to going the wrong way around. There's a mini RB near me where it happens all the time. It's a combination of lazy driving coupled with the knowledge that the chances of being caught are almost zero.
Love the instructor training bits on this ash maybe a future series or some videos 👀
i must confess. I under took a learner today. it was a 3 lane ring road and it was in the middle lane going like 25 mph and the right lane was too busy to overtake. I should've been patient but for some reason the demons made me undertake and i feel horrible.
8:40 doesn't seem from the footage there's enough space for 2 vehicles comfortably travelling side by side. I would say I would be going bang on in the centre there.
Interested in the first clip, Ashley. Why would you creep forward at an island like that? Surely cars coming round the island can be unsettled by seeing your wheels moving, and likely have to brake thinking you're going to pull out on them?
I must admit when on my motorbike I hate to see the wheels in motion at a junction like that when someone is creeping as I have to assume the driver is starting to pull out. When I was learning I was told not to creep and that it was considered bad driving - this is going back to the late 80's though, so I'm guessing things have changed from that viewpoint or maybe that was just my instructors opinion.
A good point this. Particularly when I'm cycling, cars creeping forward at junctions make me very nervous as I approach to go past them.
I tend to agree with this. A moving car is an unpredictable car. By all means get into a spot that is safe but far enough out so you can see. However, it's good to stay stationary so show that you are waiting and not seeming impatient.
@@noggintube You are right!
Either a driver should be stationery or be moving.
Creeping is not nessecary and can confuse other drivers,which must be avoided.
I would never teach a learner to do this.Ashley would be wise not to teach this to inexperienced drivers in my opinion.
I am still waiting for Ashley to respond to my criticism of some of his instruction techniques...Silence so far.
@@icouldbewrongicouldberight 😊
The Volvo at the mini roundabout is the norm for here in Cornwall. It’s even done when all junctions have traffic waiting. At mini roundabouts here it’s always beware of the vehicles on your left
The FPS of the video is synced up to the RPM of the Sportage's wheels, so it looks like it's gliding along at 4:40. 😂
I think Ashley posted a short about a tractor's tires doing the same thing a while ago.
I didn't even get on to that myself! Nice spot
@Kylirr Just made it into a short. Credit to you!
Gotta say mate, been driving for about a year now and I've picked up a lot from your videos on how much easier having patience and a better attitude to other road users (drivers or otherwise) makes things. There's a lot of nutters out there that need to sub to this channel :D
Keep the content going pal.
Merge in turn strikes again! It's amazing how even truck drivers will straddle both lanes blocking everyone. Maybe it should be in the week long CPC course 🙂
You think the issue at 7:35 was a merge in turn? If you do, on what grounds? In your reply, please give time stamp of video and road position of other vehicles as well as what you can see.
@@radishpea6615 the issue is at 7:42; the Mercedes Sprinter up the arse of the flatbed, not letting the driver in lane 1 'merge in turn' thinking he is 'puishing in'. I can guarantee that if the traffic was crawling, he would block him from merging. Happens all the time...have a good day :)
@@rob103rl Go back to 7:32, where is the van? It is not until some seconds later Ashley indicates. Where is the van at 7:33, 7:34 and 7:35 all before Ashley indicates? Have you seen the road works by 7:35. At 7:23, I cant see it but it becomes apparent there are 2 left turns up ahead after the traffic lights, how does anyone in lane 2 know that traffic in lane 1 is not turning left? This is a case of Ashley looking to make something. If we had seen road work and or lane closure signs I may have some sympathy but it would not be a lot but we dont see any signs
General shout out to all the HGv drivers who daily make it " a non event" as ashley would say. In one day I've held back as a car cut into my lane at a roundabout because they have to get past , a private hire came round the back of me as I was reversing into a drop ( full lights , hazards, bleeper on ). and a more worrying trend of cars especially SUV's who can't seem to be able to stay in the centre of a lane, driving so close to the white line that any crosswind and I'm going to side swipe them.
Keep spreading the word on HGV's Ash , it's not a non event when car meets lorry.
Ashley - in the very first clip, should you have let the man cross on the exit of the roundabout? I’m still a bit unclear about whether I should or shouldn’t, but I’m pretty sure I should when it’s safe.
what a great ambassador for Hotpoint!
Good timing with the Viofo ad and the review video which I'll have to watch too as I need to buy some new dashcams for my next car coming soon after 3 years of not really driving. Previously had a Viofo A119 for the last 6 months or so before my last car was written off in a rear end while I was passenger, but only had it on the front. Definitely getting front and rear coverage this time
For the beeping van, i would take a position of a little more to the right than in the middle, but not fully to the right.
Since a lot of people think that if 2 cars fit beside eachother, then it’s a 2 lane road.
If they cannot see it visually that you are pretty much next to them, then they it’s less likely for them to get mad at you when you are slowing down.
These videos are like much needed refresher courses. I past my test in 1977 (£3 a lesson and a tenner for the test I think!) I doubt if I could now.
Setting a very good example driving around the tanker Ashley. Stand out clip for me. PS - it's just the way you care :)
Have you noticed driving standards have gotten worse this last 3 years? never been cut up so much and encountered so many selfish people in all my life.
You wonder why driving standards have got worse then you see the learner in those couple of clips at the start of the video…
@@ResevoirGod Very simple!
The standards of the Driving Standards Agency has gone down.
The standard of driving instructors had gone down and the standard of examiners has gone down.
The result is the degradation of driving standards over the last twenty years.
Re. beeping the pedestrian, I do think sometimes a little indication that a motor vehicle is approaching can help some pedestrians become aware of the dangers of just crossing the road, not looking and looking at their mobile phone. I will say that watching your channel has helped me become (I think) a better driver. I am now more aware of certain situations and the best way to avoid being involved. I have been driving for over 40 years and am not deluded into thinking I am a good driver just because I have never been involved in a collision. With your help I hope it stays that way! 😀
The day I end up on one of Ashley's videos is the day I have failed....or I am just lost in Liverpool somewhere 😀
With the van/cyclist clip at 13:11, would you recommend using the horn in that situation? Or do you think it would cause too much confusion?
I try to not use my horn but if it would be beneficial to use it in then I could try to condition myself to use it. I've already started on tight and blind bends on country roads thanks to this channel and would like to see it's utility increased from angry button for all drivers.
I find the most common use for the horn is cars straying over to my side of the road because the driver is distracted by something. It is a long blast because I am hoping that it wakes them up and the Doppler effect doubly so. Sadly, I see this probably weekly.
If I may offer another 2 wheeled perspective: Not sure how legal it is to warn on behalf of others and I can't speak for anyone else, obviously, but as a cyclist I'd be fine with you hitting the horn there. I should be already on to it, but if you honked I'd look across and then see the van. Whether I realise why you're honking is irrelevant, because I'd switch focus to the van (in other words, don't expect a thank you wave as the cyclist probably will put two and two together about 100m down the road haha).
Sometimes if vehicles haven't clearly committed to leaving the other side of the road I don't notice it as early on the bike as I'd notice it in the car. I think there are two reasons for this: 1) I'm on the left of the lane while cycling whereas driving I'm closer to the action in the right of the car; 2) roads are much wider than you realize before cycling, so it's hard to keep aware of what's happening a world away even if it could be on top of you in a second. (For drivers, I'd liken this to being completely aware of what's happening in lane 1 on the opposite side of the motorway -- we probably should be, but we're not really).
@@unsafevelocities5687 My hope with hitting the horn would be to get the van driver to stop but thanks to your comment I’m now also thinking about it from the cyclist’s perspective.
I have had similar scenarios happen before where I’ve been ready to hit the horn but haven’t needed to because the situation I was concerned about never materialised.
If stops someone being hurt then I’ll worry about the legality of it after, I think.
Rule 112 allows you to use your horn when stationary "when another road user poses a danger". That covers the situation you describe, where you can see a dangerous situation developing, even when it doesn't look like it's going to involve you directly.
I would not hesitate to use the horn here, that van driver needed to stop.
@@J1mston For some reason I never thought about the van stopping!
You reminded me, something I've been working on myself recently is sounding the horn when I notice a hazard before a bad situation is happening rather than during it. I think it avoids the horn sounding retributive given that a toot-toot "I'm here" doesn't fit the road rage model.
6:02 "That's the New Year's diet out the window" lol
had an audi driver behind me as we were going through a passthrough road, doing the 50mph speed limit and the guy genuinely tried to overtake as we were 5 seconds away from the roundabout, saw him creeping out but pulled back in cos of oncoming traffic. mind blowing.
4:40 I love how that red Kia is magically shooting across the road LOL
At around 6:50 well done on all counts and taking every vehicle around you into consideration. Another key learning point here is to always consider how your own vehicle appears to other drivers and whether in fact you can be seen at all. Try not to linger in another road users blind spot for too long and if it's unavoidable, hold back as in this example..
I've not even watched the video yet, but that is a very sound bit of advice.
Edit: I have now. I see so many get into blind spots & stay there, especially on a dual carriageway when they start to pass me then match my speed. It makes me adjust so they get back into view. Problem fixed but does everybody fix it?
Morning Ib!
@@cargy930 Ah Cargy, always good to see a regular here. Doing well here and about to go on the stationary bike. How are you?
@@ibs5080 Just you be careful that a stationary car doesn't pass you too closely, buddy! 😁
@@cargy930 Ah yes that's always a worry. I'll make sure I'm in the primary stationary position. Wonder if I'll see Cycling Mikey during my ride!
When you consider the possibility that most people on the road are not road and driving enthusiasts and just study to pass a test, it's no surprise that this is how they drive.
Well said so true!
Most people don't read the Highway Code once they have passed their test!
Lots of drivers are ignorant and arrogant!
Lots of great stuff in this video. One thing which all makes me chuckle is people waiting at a zebra crossing when there is no traffic. They wait until a vehicle comes along & stops before deciding to cross. 10:48 - 10:55. I know he's just looking out for his own safety but why not cross when the road is clear.
There will always be people driving past the crossing and not stopping even though you should stop and let pedestrians cross.
When you’re the pedestrian, I’d wait until I know I’m not going to get hit by a car also, as I wouldn’t have a metal box protecting me, it just the fear of people NOT doing things right which happens more than it should.
Someone honked at me yesterday for wanting to reverse into my driveway. I pulled up on the left, left indicator on, reverse lights on. Cars were driving past me just fine (it's a wide road) but then for some reason one car pulled up behind me and honked at me to "go"... People always seem to get angry at others when it's their own poor planning, awareness, and impatience that causes the situations in the first place.
8:20 - didn't realise that the emergency services were: fire department, ambulance service, police & oven fitter
Someone's pasta will go cold unless that van forces its way through traffic to make the ultra-urgent delivery!
Referring to the clip with the lorries, the number of times I see people entering junctions that cannot be cleared and end up causing delays at all entries to that junction.
Happens all the time; especially M58/M57/A59 Switch Island......
So if approaching a roundabout where the lanes are marked left for left turn only. Central lane for straight on and right for tight turn. Using your theory of use all the space at what distance from the roundabout should you be in the correct lane for you chosen direction?
I'd be astonished if it were the learner who had beeped the pedestrian. When I was learning, it took all my concentration to do corners like that. I wouldn't have had the bandwidth to beep anyone.
The comment about the new year's diet going out the window was quite funny . I will need to watch this back again (never a bad thing;) to understand it better though.
What was Hotpoint's issue there? I couldn't understand the problem.
Hotpoints light foot tracker system would of been going crazy with him driving like that and alerting head office 😂
I’ve watched many of your videos, and something I think you should consider is as a driving instructor you are the only driver on the road constantly putting 100% of your thoughts into perfecting your driving to the nth degree.
Whereas for most others a car is a means of getting from a to b. They are more than likely thinking about what’s going on a work or home, they may be in a rush or having a bad day.
That Hotpoint van driver may have been behind schedule and keen to get to his next location for a washing machine install. He will have forgotten his aggravation with you (justified or not) within minutes but you are the one getting home that evening and spending time on your computer downloading and editing the footage.
I've been beeped a few times for planning ahead, it's funny and annoying at the same time.
@3.20 your student (and I'm surprised you didn't mention) , should have really checked his blind spot, I appreciate there was lots going on at the time, but this situation was all set up to be a classic for motorcycle filtering, with the build up of traffic, and first car turning right after a delay etc
Ash, any plans to upload the full long-play videos of ADI training? Even if it was on Patreon, I reckon there'd be great interest
Quick question Ash. I never used a secondary instructor mirror, do you?
Just received delivery of my A129 Pro today Ashley using your promo code, just need to wait to have it installed and hard wired properly
Thanks for the support and please send in some clips!
@ashley_neal no worries, I'm happy to support your channel. I've been following you for a few years now. When I get some clips, you're the only channel I'll be sending them to
Hi Ashley,in the video you came over a bridge with a yellow box. How do you know it is clear to exit if you can't see over the bridge when you enter the box .
You don’t 😬 Gladly there’s no camera guarding it
@ashleyneal sometimes....just sometimes, I wish I was teaching in Liverpool, you have sooo much fun!!!
I had a weird situation on the way home yesterday where my left motorway lane was the only clear lane because it exited onto a sliproad, but before getting to the exit a car merged in front of me that was literally doing about 35mph and I was stuck behind them. But then this car behind me starts giving ME grief for driving slow?? Flashing their lights and beeping. Nothing I can do because it's the car in front so idk if they couldn't see that or what. Anyway all I could do was wait until there were 2 lanes and then overtake the slow car, with guy behind giving me another beep for my trouble and all. Whilst I agree the slow car was a risk and was holding up traffic, I'd never behave like this car behind me.
Terrible driving by the Hotpoint van, but the ****** road design doesn't help - it looks to be ~3.5 lanes wide, which unfortunately is always going to encourage impatient drivers to think they can squeeze through (the joint down the "middle" of the lane looking like it separates into 2 lanes doesn't help either). Needs to either be widened to 2 full lanes either side, or narrowed to make it clear it's only 2 lanes - maybe a nice bit of greenery down the middle?
Very good video, but at 13:11 there's more to this. The cycle is possibly obscured by the car ahead of it, and the low sun. The white van driver actually appeared to be quite careful, but low sun can catch out many. This is quite instructive about how careful you need to be in low sun conditions.
Also applies to thinking about other road users not seeing you!
Lights on always in low sun.
When I can see my shadow in front of me, I just assume every driver will pull out. So far, that's been roughly the reality of it.
@@PedroConejo1939 Lights on at all times. A midday sun in front of you can make any vehicle including pedestrians ahead blend into the shadow buildings or trees, and become almost invisible.
The van driver didn't look properly. That cyclist was there to be seen - the problem is some drivers are looking at the middle of the road for cars, they don't consider looking towards the edge for bicycles. That's why the Highway Code Rule 72 now advises to cycle in the middle of the lane when crossing junctions.
If I had been cycling there, I would have been fully in the centre of the lane so the following vehicle could not overtake and obscure the view of the junction.
3:35 man, I'm jealous of how much you talk to your student. I'm taking lessons right now and get maybe 10% of the advice you're expressing. Somehow doubt that I'm driving so well that nothing could be said 😅
(but also, very confused by what's said at 3:55. "Don't catch up, don't clutch down"? or is it "don't.... clutch down" as an instruction to actually use the clutch more? :P)
@@Anderkent by putting the clutch down the learner would have been bringing the car to a stop. by keeping it up it enables them to keep the car creeping slowly which is a much more efficeint way of driving than stopping everytime the car infront slows or stops
If you feel like you're not getting a quality education from your instructor then maybe you need to change your current instructor for a new one if possible. I remember one thing from one of my teachers way back in secondary school. He said something along the line of lessons being fun and how you are more likely to remember what you learned because it was fun.
I remember my time with my instructor not just because he was a quality instructor, but because he was fun. He made lessons fun to do, even the ones I wasn't looking forward to such as parallel parking. He made them fun to do! This is coming from someone with learning difficulties I should add (autism).
Sorry to hear that. Feedback is good, but no so much you cannot process it. Nobody expects a learner to be perfect & none of us are, even after many years of driving. A tutor giving calm advice is a good one. Surely you are paying to learn from their advice?
@@wilfbm9067 Ah, right. I was thinking 'clutch down' as in bringing it from fully engaged to the bite point to creep forward, rather than disengaging fully. This makes sense.
@Hikaru Yeah I might do that. While I've made good progress with this instructor from an absolute beginner over 10h of driving, now it just feels like supervised practice. I've never had them give me advice about when to change gears, or appropriate speed, etc.
When someone is happy to carry on like that in a sign written van, it tells you all you need to know.
with the learner beeping the pedestrian: I think if I was in the pedestrian's place I would have chosen to help the learner. tough enough to make a turn across traffic without a pedestrian deciding to cross just when there's a gap in traffic. and for a learner that's even more true.
5:55 is that a timed bus lane ?
6:11 I drive that junction near enough every day and there’s always some interesting driving going on around there. I often wish I had a dashcam so I could send you the clips from there!
Ashly, love your stuff, just wondering if you might do a compilation of videos where your more advance students do the talking, narrating their train of thought and action showing good learned driving skills. Not that your accent isn't heavenly :P Just that one of the things that my instructor really liked about me as I progressed was that he didn;t need to see what I was doing because I was telling him, and all he needed to do was point out the occasional odd hazard i may have missed as I hadn;t mentioned it.
2:33 "at the mistake the learner makes" I was looking at the rear view learner until I realised there's a learner ahead too. 😂 A learner surrounded by learners ha!
In response to 4:06, where the pedestrian is beeped for crossing, some clarity please: I am very aware of the highway code change which gives pedestrians priority at side roads, however, I did not believe this was the case at a traffic light controlled junction. Correct or not? My thought on this is that the traffic must flow as governed by the signals, and stopping at random in the middle of a junction when it is clear to the pedestrians and drivers that they have a 'go' light is illogical at best, and dangerous at worst.
5:05 you should teach to pull up to the line to cross the senors (black tar strips) near where i work the lights would not trigger green until the lady in front moved forward an extra foot.
In the first clip I’m not really sure there was problem really, regardless of the L markings on your vehicle (assuming they were there). The overall approach and junction was being made very very slowly, which is fine given the context going on in the car but to other road users it would be seen as a lack of progress. This the Audi approach and passed around the outside but not in a dangerous manner at all; I would say they were just leaving you to it. The alternative is to stack up behind you and get frustrated?
It seems drivers don't know what the horn is actually for, I drive a 26 tonne chemical lorry and the amount of times you get someone cutting the lane next to or infront is astounding, so you then sound the horn to say I'm here, don't come any closer, to which they reply with numerous blasts of their horn and then verbal and gestures!!
I think in future I'll just let them get squished! Oh, I'd love to, but, too much paperwork, especially if there is a chemical spill!!!
That hot point van was ridiculous, his hand gesture at the light was the worst bit - what did he expect just crash through the traffic. Bizarre. Last week on the m5 all 3 lanes slowing I was in fast land o/t a lorry in middle lane, guy in van comes up behind going nuts that I was in his way, I pulled in (Not slowly to create a reaction) and the guy goes past throwing arms in air, and immediately has to brake for line of traffic in front. I literally despair of what he thought he was achieving.
Ashley, based on your video about "pinching an inch", I'd say the Volvo on the mini roundabout didn't do anything wrong. Visibility was fantastic and there was no traffic or pedestrian around. What's the issue?
Have a look in the Highway Code. It’s also backed up by legislation 👍
My favourites are drivers who think they’re being helpful but they haven’t considered what else is going on around them and then they get uppity when you don’t take them up on it immediately because it’s not safe to do so
Such appropriate wording on that van.
Hotpoint. The Way You Care.
Notice the word YOU in the slogan. It's clear that driver doesn't care about other road users.
That Hotpoint driver was getting himself into a spin. Great advert for the company.
I would find it weird having driving lessons with you due to our names only being off by a single letter
Senseal rhymes with Ashley? ;-)
@@theaikidoka i dont use my real name online. dingus