That is clear. I understand that this is NOT the USA. However, in the USA, it is a matter of law that you have no expectation of privacy when you choose to appear in public. You can be photographed (from a public space) without permission, in most cases.
Was she actually a she, Really.. Well Karen's & kevs all look the same, They all have the same mantality.. Good Job your parents called you Kyle bless... I'm called Peter say no more 😂
Before the woman started reversing, I figured there must have been a queue of traffic behind blocking her. Nah, turns out she was just stubborn with an incredible ego... it's strange what putting someone at the wheel of a car does to their psyche.
I was so shocked when she just reversed all the way. I had assumed seeing how long winded she made it that the traffic piled up behind her. Any sensible person would've just reversed straight away to keep the traffic moving. So unnecessary
@@maselm I’m pretty sure driving instructors have a lot less of ulterior motives than politicians, running an entire country is exponentially different when compared to simply preparing someone for a test. Point is, if something is dangerous a driving instructor isn’t going to encourage a pupil to do it bc they won’t pass, not passing quickly=bad reviews, bad reviews=no customers, no customers=business fucked, pretty obvious is it not? Doesn’t take a business degree to understand that right? If you think he wasn’t in the right here you need to either sit a driving test or sit it again.
@@maselm and I mean, im pretty sure either way compared to a random member of the public, a driving instructor is going to know a hell of a lot more about the subject than them, doesn’t matter how good they are in their field at that point when compared to a road raging idiot.
There is no permission to be sought in public. No expectation of privacy, anyone who thinks that they need to give permission for a picture to be taken in public is seriously mistaken.
I think she was hurt by the comment section. Not taking her side, but trying to logic it as much as possible. Then again she didn't move outta the way, so what logic is there really?
@@samowen7189 taking a photo or video and putting it online for everybody to see are two different things... that's what most privacy laws are about I suppose. Not about taking the material, but publishing it without the other one's consent.
'Didn't like the comments'; 'demanding the video be taken down'; 'threatening to go to police'. Her sense of self entitlement is staggering - zero self awareness so clearly learned nothing from the experience. Her appalling behaviour, sadly, is all too common.
@@28YorkshireRose12 Video games nothing to do with it, and everything to do with being 100% self-entitled. My guess is that they lived off the bank of mum and never had to actually buy their first car. Got their license handed to them on a plate, the test is much harder nowadays.
A great example of how, even though we all get older, some never grow up! She has tried being a bully all of her life. Here in the comments, people are simply pointing out just how terrible of a situation she added to
Everyone turning to the police for every stupid thing in this country that upsets them or offends them, and no wonder there is a resource problem in this country dealing with violent crime and home break-ins.People need to get a life.
What a chad from the driving instructor for making sure that his student was not the fault of all this. I would’ve sheet my pants thinking I cause all of these traffic problems😂
My driving instructor would've been like "These people never ever blame themselves for stupid behavior and never ever have learned to think what might have caused problems in the beginning and did not watch what happened in front of them. It's not up to you to solve a problem someone else made."
@@StefanVeenstra Obviously. If someone makes an error on the highway/motorway, yes, by all means you are obviously obliged to try and avoid the accident. It's more that in this case, someone decided to go the "It's not my problem I came accross you while you were obviously much earlier into that one lane and that I'm now holding up traffic"-route, that's what I was trying to say ;).
After all these years and the few times of seen this I’ve just realised how Jacob the mad lad didn’t close down the window when instructed. Top man providing us with quality entertainment.
I drive a 44 tonne artic and I've had this same situation. I passed the light on green and about half way through the roadworks was a small side road that wasn't signal controlled. The lady in the car pulled out of that side road but she obviously hadn't looked to see which way the traffic was flowing. We both stopped and she demanded that I reverse the 400 yard back to the traffic lights to let her out. This is clearly not a safe thing to do and I refused. She ranted for a good minute and so I put my kettle on to make a coffee. She then proceeded to call the police and was promptly charged with careless driving. Karma😎
If you act like this in public, then I wonder do you also act this in an interview, at your job, at home? In public, you need to not do stupid things - keep them at home in private. If you don't want to be shown to the world how stupid you are, don't act stupid in the first place. Same goes for being nice to people, if you're nice you'd prob won't be that famous anyway tbh - as it usually won't be on the news.
Nowadays face cloths are used for that. Look for single persons, walking on the sidewalk or driving a car - with a face cloth. They don't want to be recognized and they like to re-inhale carbon dioxide to become duller.
@@gordondry What do you mean you “ they like to re-inhale carbon dioxide to become duller”? Pedestrians passing bye you could well just be walking for exercise and always wearing a mask to prevent breathing in the exhaust gases caused by a line of stationary vehicles which sounds pretty sensible or they may think that people are filming and want to hide their identity which is their prerogative even though there is no right of privacy in a public place. You are very much mistaken if you think that wearing a mask causes a buildup of CO2 and impairs your health and you can do a simple experiment by yourself a blood gas analyser eclipse on your finger and gives a reading of the amount of CO2/oxygen in your blood set wearing a mask and see how long it takes for the CO2 in your bloodstream to increase significantly i.e. by more than one or 2% then do a Google search to see what a healthy amount of CO2 actually is.
I don't think enough was made of the fact that a car followed the learner through the light at the start. That proves how close he was to the learner. It was useful to see how the dash cam distorts the perception of speed. Thank you for some great teaching here.
why ashley, anyone could send an e-mail to the local police with a link to the video, raise their "concerns", this is enough evidence for them to fine her at least.
Credit to the instructor who is obviously furious and dealing with idiots but also aware that he is the example to his student so he keeps his temper under control.
@@franksierow5792 Under the circumstances he was perfectly in the right to be outraged and furious, however he was not abusive nor aggressive Frank, it is possible to be 'Obviously Furious' and also keep your temper under control, in the same way as is is possible to be hungry and not binge eat.
@@carlchapman4053 The instructor told the student on approaching the green light to "slow down as these have detectors as well" which he didn't, the instructor also told the student "don't try to make it" which the student also ignored, as the light had turned to amber before they reached the stop line it would of been safe to stop as the car behind which ran the red was a safe distance behind. I guess that was the instructors car so would of been dual controlled in which case the instructor failed to take control of the car to stop his student from breaking highway code rules on amber lights. It was obvious that the car in the opposite direction did run their red light in which case this is a 50/50 blame. I've ran amber lights and red lights myself so I'm no angel, but the instructor should have made it clear to his student that they were all in the wrong. The Karen just made things more interesting 😂
Daaaaaaamn thick people do attract each other don't they 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Also the edited voice going "I'M GOING TO REPORT YOU!" is such an angry Minnie Mouse sound it just made my day. And you and your learner, just perfect 🥰 good work lads!
Seriously, is that the case in England? I payed a standard amount of money for each lesson, no matter if we ended up in a huge traffic jam that delayed us to the next student or not.
Why do people get so fired up at the thought of having to reverse? if they learnt to drive properly they should be perfectly capable of backing up a bit to let someone through without getting all stressed about it.
She probably can't reverse. Did you see how the front of her car was wobbling all over. She knew she was shit at reversing so she tried to kick off instead
Youll be surprised mate, majority of people cant reverse park, or well, park anywhere in giant bays at the supermarkets. Amount of people parking almost diagonally crapping up 3 bays in the proces is astounding. And dont get me started on idiots trying to parallel park.
I’m in Wales and there are loads of single track roads, and we encounter lots of people who just can’t seem to reverse and they make up loads of excuses
Honestly I'm more apalled by the driver behind the lesson car who was like "Hey, they can go, so we can to!" while they definitely should've seen the amber and think "Nah, maybe we should stop...." especially because they definitely had the space for it.
Got honked at for stopping in front of a green light when i heard a siren coming from behind. I didnt stop early enough because i hesitated because of this woman behind, leaving a gap so narrow that the ambulance driver just chose to go through the oncoming traffic. Also felt a mix of insecureness and anger for the rest of the drive (im a new driver).
There were no vehicles behind her, and at least one behind our protagonists. Common decency dictates the least number of people be inconvenienced. People need to spend some time on single track roads once in a while...
I hope all these people now having seen the video feel absolutely stupid and see how ridiculous they are each and every one should write an apology to you
I assumed she was blocked in by the cars behind her. I was shocked that she could have backed up at anytime, but decided to he an abdolute idiot instead
I can't believe she kicked up such a fuss when she had such a short way to go back! This video highlights how important it is to stay calm in these situations and not resort to abusing people. I hope to maintain my patience at all times on the road.
@SornTrash I find it funny as I that have been drive for 12+ years was once a learner. People are strange then you have some like her and the other guy 🤦🏿♂️
I commented exactly this on the original video... The driving instructor was very supportive towards the student and helped him keep calm during a tense situation. As a learner myself, busy incidents like that can be scary and I have witnessed one or two myself. But the instructor and student were fully in the right and handled it well. Good job to both of you.
Hilarious that they’re all kicking off at the learner, when the one causing all the disruption was just her as she had blocked the road completely so she could have a strop. Road was clear behind her!
I'm glad you reuploaded it You defended the young lad You have the proof on your dashcam 1 V 10ing all the aggressive motorists who were all in the wrong perfect example of a good and brave man, proud of you Ashley
Great analysis. People drive on autopilot: "Green means go! Screw everyone else!" And when she DID decide to reverse... how quickly was the issue resolved?! Madness!
It’s like a magic trick, as soon as she moved everyone else was able to clear, my instructor said driving is about fixing other people’s mistakes, even if the learner was completely in the wrong, you can see there is another car right behind them so they have nowhere to go. Since she had nothing behind her she could just reverse and let them by rather than hold everyone up
It was a hard watch. I dare say I was more nervous watching it than those who were in it. Top marks for being in the right, putting the video up again, and giving the intelligent and insightful analysis. I think it is highly instructive, and despite being a driver with several decades experience, I have learnt from it. Sadly I have also learnt how ignorant some drivers are.
I don't much care if you dress like that and drive a Corsa when you're not at work. But if you have a "high profile job" then maybe you shouldn't behave like that, even if you're off work.
@@danielfinch362 ^ Thats a farce - if she was a minor, she'd need an adult with her for at least a year after test - so learn to drive at 17, become adult at 18 - so must have an adult with you to make sure you'd drive safe after the test. I'd say she's easily in her 30s if anything, and should appear in the Reddit threat Entitled Parents.
That is patently untrue and misinformation. You do have a reduced expectation to privacy in public, of course, but you certainly do not waive all your rights to privacy. Peck v. UK, PG and JH v. UK and the 'von Hannover' case that went to the ECtHR would beg to differ as to why you are not correct.
By this ladies own logic...we should uhh repeal all convictions of theft that were caught on Camera and the video evidence being the only material that lead to the conviction.... Any and all speeding tickets should be waived because they were than likely caught by an automated camera system because those cameras infringe on my privacy. Yeah I'm being sarcastic. No expectation of privacy in public so really Ashley didn't need to do Jack.
Problem is youtube follows a more USA T&C in the uk, public place in UK you have no expectations of privacy (Germany is actually the worst you can get fine or arrested, I don't actually know how Tesla get away with their sentry mode in Germany)
First time of watching this, but all I can say is that I really wish that I had had someone like you to have been my driving instructor. Calm, and professional, even when you were being provoked. Great job!
You missed a trick here not adding a silly face over angry lady’s own face. But I guess you’re trying to make a serious point so I commend you for taking the professional approach 😉
like 20 people wasted like 15 minutes of their lives just because that one Karen wouldn't get out of the fucking way. And the road was clear behind her the whole time...
We live in a small town, and once I had to deliver something to this house (from Facebook marketplace). I knocked on the door, and heard him shout "DOOOR!" From inside, but his wife wasnt in. I waited, no answer, I knocked again, 3 fucking times. In the end, I dumped the items in the front garden in the rain and walked away. I can hardly describe the various levels of disgust I have for this person.
Congrats to Jacob! The real joke is how little effort it took for the ***(redacted driver)*** to reverse and resolve this in a matter of seconds. The whole "I was on green when I went" argument is farcical when all you achieve is causing an incident through poor planning. So glad you put this back up as it's a great lesson for learners and more experienced drivers alike.
I have to say I am incredibly impressed by the level of calm and collection shown by you Ashley, In my area, if the same incident had happened, it would or could have ended up in a brawl and police being called. You are an example to us all. 👍👍
LOL At 8:26 you can clearly see that woman deliberately pushed up to get involved in the sittuation like it was the highlight of her day... Affecting her job? She should have been sacked!!
It's her fault now that its all brought back up again. Many people forgot and moved on from the original video onto brighter horizons. Now its all back again.
@@28YorkshireRose12 I concur. Wouldn't be surprised if it goes viral. Others have indicated that they will share/forward. Admit to have shared this too 😉.
Streisand effect. You seek to ban something instead of just admitting shame and hoping it all goes away and people are 100x more interested in what you want to hide. It becomes a self un-fulfilling prophecy.
@@grahamnutt8958 And there you go! - There are old sayings about "Least said, soonest mended" and "Let sleeping dogs lie". I guess this dog just jumped up and bit her in the arse?!
Cuz he was at fault. He came through amber nd blocked all the ppl nd started acting entitled to all those who were going through green light..it waz actually funny hearing him insult the otber ppl saying that they compounded the problem by going through green light.. like bro serioisly? 😂😂😂ppl r supposed to go through green light
Ha Ha Lets hope drivers don’t drive through a green light if you happen to be in their way. Green light is only go if the road ahead is clear, just as Ashley attempted to explain to the other road users.
First time I have seen this video... Have to say your student handled it brilliantly and was a great experience for him. People like the cars coming through on a green and not having the brains to hold back need to be taught how to drive and not just how to pass a test, which seems like a large number of people on the road have done . Great work @AshleyNeal . Keep it up matey.
i'm 46, i've been driving since i was 22 that means 24 years of driving, in this situation, i would have stopped at the yellow light, but, he was a learner driver, the instructor did the right thing with the learner, i watched the light all the way as he went through and it was still on yellow, so no breach of the highway code was made. people such as myself forget they were once a learner driver and as experienced drivers it is our responsibility, to give time and space to the learner.
In a previous video it was shown that they wouldn't have been able to stop safely in that situation and going through the yellow was pretty much their only option. The learner isn't in the wrong but the silver car from the start is
@@adambilling3280 The black Citigo behind could have helped also by pulling back on approach to the roadworks, it looked fairly well signposted. If the Citigo had been further back I'd have expected Ashley would've said stop as it's unnervingly common for people to run temporary red lights. If I were driving I'd have probably stopped at the Amber, even if i know I don't have to. I aint an instructor though, Ash is, I know a hell of a lot less about the rules and the tolerances of the rules.
On my first watching of the video, I thought the same "ooh, yellow light, bit dicey" but, looking back over it with the review, inexperienced driver, plus the car behind, going through was the right call, as they could have easily caused an accident by slamming on the anchors at that point. That was my only quibble at all though. Everything else was clear cut, especially from a few moments later when it was clear the first two cars encountered had run the lights at the other end (must have to have been that far through given that the light had only just changed at the near end). Glad to see others agree and had the same "ooh not sure" as me. I can't be a horrific driver then :)
@@CplBurdenR I'd have expected him to stop on the yellow too if he was approaching slowly as Ashley was advising. But different when it's a learner and others about. I think the camera can be a bit misleading in terms of distance and situation too.
Well, not so much justify her behaviour but clutching at straws to get the video taken down. She will have frantically searched for reasons for grounds for it to be removed and posting videos of minors without the parents permission will no doubt be one of them. Kind of shot herself in the foot by being on film driving a car alone etc, minor indeed 😂
Was she driving that car by herself (without L plates)? As you must be 17 (unless you receive mobility allowances) to drive a car, to be a minor she must have recently passed her test Is the deteriation between driving to the standard of the test and what is witnessed really that great? Mind you, the actions of the people in the video was very much that of minors...
You handled the situation incredibly well, considering you had to take into account yourself, Jacob as a learner, aggressive drivers and rectifying the situation. The only thing I would've done differently (which may have not made any difference considering how dense the female in red seemed to be) is when she initially approached and was clearly being confrontational, is adopt a slightly less harsh tone, as maybe the initial command riled her. Great vid as always.
In today's world people have dash cameras and film anything and everything. If you have a high profile job then you should have stayed in your car and dealt with the situation accordingly you should not have got out your vehicle and block the road and you should not have had your opinion if that is what an experienced driver does when they can't get to where they want to be then don't take it out on others doesn't matter with a day whether they are experienced driver or a learner the situation is still the same
That being the case , a complaint to her employer would have been in order : as soon as she played the 'high profile job' card , she brought her employer into the dispute and therefore damaged their reputation by her obvious disorderly misconduct in a public place .
don't these people understand that for every 10 seconds they stand there talking, another car is lining up and the situation keeps getting harder to resolve?
she does not help herself by racing up after the Ford is revering in to the gap at 8:26 on the vid when she could have reversed back at that point and saved wasting 6-7 mins of everyone's time
@Strange Fruit having a bad day is an excuse for being a bit rude at the checkout. Not for trying to intimidate learner drivers. What was she going to achieve by driving up the other side?
@@Skett Ummm having a bad day is not an excuse for being a bit rude at the checkout. And what if the checkout person is having a bad day? Having a bad day is not an excuse to be rude and, trust me, I know I've had plenty of them in my time.
"What happened first of all, do you know?" "No idea" Brilliant question to ask in that situation. Nice advocating for your students as well! I love how angry these people got at being delayed, but due to an inability/unwillingness to fix the actual problem, they did nothing to solve it, and got more delayed.
I'm learning to drive on my motorbike right now. If i was appoching this light system i'd always be prepared to stop if it's on geen. I wouldn't jump though an amber mostly as i'm learning to do defensive riding. People will always wanna jump when they can & sometims the light isn't always setup properly. I'd just perfer to wait but i'm on a bike so a bit diffrent. I just don't wanna face a car with no escape route.
Well done for putting this back up , and the analysis was spot on , loved how you made her voice sound like a cartoon , glad you blurred her face tbh , judging by the rest of her it probably wasn't a pretty sight anyway LOL
I’m so glad that I never had to confront any situations like this when I was learning to drive. Massive kudos to Jacob for seemingly remaining calm during this whole ordeal. Lots of learners wouldn’t have, I sure as hell wouldn’t have. To be honest, I don’t think I’d had handled it as well as he did, and I’ve held my full license for nearly 3 years now.
I probably would not have as well. Thankfully also owner of a full license for about the same year now (we don't really have a difference here, the only thing that is different that for 2,5 or 3 years the amount of total points you might get when getting fined for something you did wrong is lower, I think it's like 3 points before you loose your license whereas it's 5 or 6 when you are considered an experienced driver).
Yes, it seems this business of censoring someone is done without any consideration of whether there's a case for it to be done. It's all so faceless - to whom do you complain when, like Ashley, you're accused of abusing the rules? There's no one taking responsibility and making judgement calls, it all seems very knee-jerk and snowflake-like.
@@sallybilzon3507 if I remember right, could be wrong but the claims are all up to the claimant, for copyright that's true I assume thats the case for privacy complaints but if he was to appeal it it's up to the claimant to decide and if it's denies he gets a strike, NOW THIS IS FOR COPYRIGHT I have no idea what it's like for privacy complaints it could be the same could be different I think it's different but idk,
My first time seeing the video, my first thought the traffic lights were maybe set at the wrong time interval to allow traffic to clear. But you handled it like a pro. Well done.
Makes sense. The town by my Uni has a big road through it and one of the permanent light crossings is just silly out of sync. It will sit on red when there's no cars, it's a one way junction and there can be no cars for miles coming down before it changes green. Countless times i sat waiting just incase because its a nasty corner to see around and all of the times it's been dead clear long before the light changes.
Having watched the original video, and now this one;- I would like to congratulate your (now former) pupil in remaining calm and chilled in a very tense situation. Given everything that is shown on this video, I think you did the right thing.
In the EU, it works a bit differently I think. But considering the UK is leaving the EU in December, the UK no longer has any obligation to keep those laws no the books.
That's the way I have always thought about it but unfortunately if I remember correctly uk law is not that simple, you can be fined for recording people without consent especially if they are minors
I've noticed that people doing wrong in public often don't appreciate their photo being taken. I once had a neigbour cause an obstruction when he parked his car. Over a hour later I went out and photographed it, front & back. Interestingly enough he came flying out almost immediately and without even a hint of remorse demanded I delete the photos. I held my ground and told him to call the police if he wasn't happy. He eventually got the message and didn't cause any further problems until his lease was up. The new neighbours are much better. ☺
Got to admit that when I was learning I stalled at a set of traffic lights when they went green on "accident" due to the driver behind me following way too closely and started to beep his horn in a road rage way and managed to pull away safely just before the lights went amber safe to say the male Karen had no choice to stay for a second dose of waiting lol, my learning instructor gave me a grin and said well done you composed yourself very well, and that gave me a smile and a massive confidence boost the rest of the day lol
Hehe, I had someone who decided to be a showoff at a traffic light and was reving his engine as if to signal he was going to spurt out in the same direction as us when we had a green. It was a traffic-flow regulated light so it probably turned green sooner than he expected and since he was making faces towards my instructor as if to signal "I'm going to give your learner a fucking jump-scare!!" he didn't notice it in time and when we started moving he panicked when trying to get into second gear and stalled. My driving instructor first laughed out loud and then became silent and said "What an idiot!" and since I didn't really notice what had been going on he explained, and ended with "Those people are bound up to either meet the wrong person someday who will not give them the space they tried to claim, or will end up folding themselves around a tree because they fly out of a curve."
@@Dutch3DMaster male karen?? U purposely messed up with other car's chances of going through a green light..nd calling them male karen..atleast realize where u r at fault instead of taking pride in it
@@ixa.m9915 the point is that when you see a learner you have to be patient, people that are new to driving have every right to accidentally stall, theyre just learning
@@Kalash74 anyone has the right to accidentally stall. It happens. Being a prick about it and responding in dangerous way just shows you should have license removed.
1st time viewing this, and even without any of the justification you can tell the learner driver was fully in the right... kept calm and drove well... well done !
What’s the minimum age to get a license there? Cause I live in Canada and have my license at 16, so I wouldn’t find that odd (although her appearance is quite concerning if she’s saying she’s a minor lmao) and what kind of high school student has a “high-profile job”? Lmao
@@p1kkuma in the eu you generally can get your license at 18, 17 if you're driving with you parents (like literally ALWAYS with your parent in the passenger seat) or at 15 if you're a foreigner in france. also I guess she looks like a high profile minor miner on reality tv, who shows people how it's like to have had 5 children before turning of age.
The problem these days, Ashley, is that many folk are too interested in “standing up for their own rights of way” rather than in helping to keep the traffic flowing, even it means conceding their legal priority every now and then. In this case, if we give the first driver the benefit of the doubt and he DIDNT actually jump the lights, everyone except the coarse lady tried to make the best of a tricky situation, put their rightful priority(?) to one side, and get the traffic moving again. We’ve all been caught like this before at some point and there for grace of God, go I... Thanks for the vid
I used to get this all the time when I was driving lorries, and I'm sorry but, most of the time it was women and old people. They have all the attitude required to force themselves into those situations, but none of the ability to get themsleves out of it. So they go on the offensive to cover their shame by putting it on you. I gave up HGV getting on 13 years ago, because there were just too many dickheads on the road, even then. The same reason I quit riding motorcycles after 30 years, too (except there, one of them got me. Torpedoed on a roundabout by someone who thought if he went fast enough, he could phase through me at the molecular level). That's why I like your channel, you're actually trying to do something about that. All power to you Ashley. Keep up the good work.
I like it how Ashley is able to explain the situation to the other drivers in a calm and inoffensive way, yet he is very fair and has the guts to be blunt with anyone who deserves it. A lot of people get far too hot under the collar in the car and its refreshing for seeing someone just be calm and logical.
I noticed that she was the instigator of a breach of privacy (doesn't exist on public areas) by taking a video/photo from her phone in front of the driving school car, as for the muppet who said "pack of lies" I hope he now knows that he is a muppet, all dash cams footage look faster than the speed actually is, this is due to the lack of panoramic view as opposed to eyesight and the camera is fixed and rigid. There are other factors to take into account as to why it seems faster but not required here for explanation. Top shout Ashley.
Ashley, every one of your videos is a learning experience. I actually passed my test in 1969 (probably before you were born) but still watch every one with interest. The attitude of the "lady" and some of the other drivers was appalling. A green light gives you the right to proceed only if the road is clear. At any normal set of lights you would expect to wait at the line if the road ahead is blocked even when your light is green so temporary road works lights should be exactly the same. It is apparent that the "lady" drove very quickly up to the queue of cars even though she was very near the start of the affected stretch and could clearly see that the way was blocked. This demonstrated very poor judgement and lack of anticipation which was then compounded by her subsequent outrageous behaviour and threats. Your learner handled the situation very calmly and, in part, I put that down to your style of tuition as well as the character of the lad himself. This should never have been taken down and I fully support your decision to repost it and applaud the detailed analysis that rebuffs earlier criticisms.
Exactly, people seem to think a green light means blast ahead regardless of what's ahead/not cleared the junction for whatever reason. It means go when safe and clear to do so...
Thank you for putting this back up complete with the rear view as it does show that taking the option to stop before the stop here sign would likely have caused the following driver to have skidded after locking their brakes as they would have had to perform an emergency stop themselves. That would have only been a fraction of a second between them not piling into the back of your car and ending in a crash. As I know about drivers who do not regularly practice doing an emergency stop and I only know one person who does that, and that would be me, I can assure you that the following driver would most likely have not managed to stop before connecting with the rear of your car so your reaction time in assessing your learners ability to stop before the sign was correct and bang on as teaching your pupil to drive. I agree with you that the most likely scenario would be that at least two of the drivers had entered from side roads because they saw no other oncoming from their right and took a chance that the other end light had already gone to green but failed to take any notice of the time it took them to reverse into the available spaces there by compounding those drivers who had probably come through a green light in thinking they had right of way. The issue here is that the drivers who thought they had it right but did not take any consideration of how much time had already passed but I could not see whether there was sufficient view along this far too long set of roadworks and as we see from the video those that did not reverse out of the way only compounded the problem as they could be seen having to wave people who had started on a green light which was sequencing behind us. Your analysis was good and as your pupil passed his test he had obviously listened to his instructor. Can I ask that you add into your course a recommendation that you teach your pupils to find some empty roads where they can practice emergency stops at least on a weekly basis. This will teach them how to brake without locking the wheels, especially in wet conditions, and this will give more experience so there will be less back end shunts and our insurance premiums will begin to drop. Regards Richard
Jumping a red light is not a mistake, it's stupidity, however, the crazy woman in this video may not have jumped a red light, but people ahead of her did.
I dont know why the students speed was brought up! You can clearly see he wasn't passing 30 mph even without the Google maps analysis. And the woman doing the complaining was a complete child
Thank you for posting. I hadn't seen it before but its rediculous that people would carry on when the road is clearly blocked and then to refuse to move is silly. You guys were on the way through and had right of way. Thanks again for posting it.
Fair play to the lad and yourself keeping your cool, the lads only learning, showing my partner how to drive has given me a whole new perspective and a big reminder that we all once were learner drivers. That lass demanding the world to stop for her needs to give her head a wobble
Everyone has had to learn to drive so not sure why people give learner drivers a hard time it's already stressful for a learner driver, and the woman is a clown.
Good luck to Jacob he’s lucky to have you as instructor. I’ve been in this situation myself, caught up where someone jumped the red light. Everyone blames everyone else and they all start arguing instead of trying to work out a way of getting out of it. At the end of the day, it’s about people’s pride and whose right of way it is!
@@healingandgrowth-infp4677 oh shut up will you. People call females a “Karen” when they are being bitchy when they are either in the wrong or just being a nuisance, if they are male they are called a “Ken” rarely used but still used sometimes alright
You both handled that situation very well, theres no need for the others drivers to act like that. TBH Ashley when you where analysing your video, I personally would have prepared to stop as soon as the temporary traffic lights turned to Amber in my opinion. The reason I Say this is my Driving Instructor 15 years ago told me it means prepare to stop. Although on the theory test it says "Amber: Stop. If you have already crossed the stop line when the amber light appears or are positioned close to the stop line where stopping may be dangerous, you should proceed" I do agree with you that some of those drivers jumped the red light and some of them could of came out of the side roads and driveways. The Geriatrics in the Ford that was arguing with you and Jacob need to grow up and have a bit of consideration for learner drivers. They need to remember they was learning once but had it easy because there was no theory in the old days. As for the Karen lol high profiled job? she only drives a Corsa.
I had 25 years of this type of thing until a 30 ton artic travelling at 60 mph changed lanes on a dual carriageway. It spun us and then went into the drivers side and pushed us sideways for around 150 metres. Thankfully both myself and the pupil walked away but you can imagine the state of the car. At that point I decided I had had enough and set about retiring. In Germany a driving instructor is a respected professional. Shame that doesn’t happen here.
Really interesting analysis at the end of your video, and the 2 "wrong" cars quickly reacted to solve the issue (and I suspect they joined from driveways or similar along the Roadworks route). But the attitude of the next group who should have hung back, was totally out of order, and kicking off at a L car under tuition was thoughtless. Finally, had the disgruntled woman revered up sooner, the road would have been cleared promptly. She deserves to be SEEN and shamed.
As a retired driving instructor of 26 years on HGV, PSV and cars, I find the lady in the red top to be a complete prat. She could have resolved the situation so easily by simply reversing back at the start. On thing however that as far as I know, has not been mentioned is the timing of the lights.
Yeah, I thought that. They could have been slightly out of sync, with amber on this side and green on the other. They had come a fair way down the road though. I've had grief on these kind of roadworks too when I've gone through on green but the traffic has driven so slowly through that it's green in the other direction before we clear. People assume you've run the red.
Send me the unedited video, I will upload it to my channel for all to see. The lady in question is in the wrong, end of. Respect others, especially someone who is learning as they go.
@@warped434 WARNING to everyone. I followed this link, and immediately got a warning from Google that someone had tried to sign on with my Google account. The email I use for Google is not used elsewhere, so that website is trying to access viewers' accounts. Beware.
I’m glad you’ve blurred her face, saves me from having to rip my eyes out every time I see it’s face 🙈 I’m also saving fortunes on food now that I don’t vomit from seeing that things face, it’s a shame you couldn’t blur their body too, since it’s still making me nauseate 🤢🤮
I was an ADI for thirty years and I can almost guarantee that the opposing drivers, if asked what the green light means, they would say “go!” This is wrong as per the Highway Code. You are correct, always blame the learner ( and instructor). A similar thing happened to me due to an unavoidable situation with the road maintenance crew. They put the other driver right and told him that he shouldn’t have proceeded until his way ahead was clear!
Thanks for the extra analysis, it did appear that you were travelling quickly, but good to see how the camera distorts that. Temporary traffic signals wil often cause grief on longer sections, as they are often set up by people who's skills are digging holes rather than traffic management. It is possible that the lights phasing was poor, but the ones you met initially either came from the side roads, jumped a red, or perhaps just took too long to travel through. Whatever the cause, it is up to everybody to do what they can to unravel the mess, the first two dived for cover quickly, but then the rest got stroppy. The last entrance into the building site looked big enough to hold them all, so the situation could have been cleared quite quickly. Disappointing that people let anger get in the way of just sorting it out. Also disappoiinting that so many comments are aimed at the way she looks. Good to criticise her actions and attitude, poor to criticise her looks, as these are irrelevant. But we learn this at school, we call each other names, lots based on physical features, like 'fat git', etc.
They are required to have an authorised traffic controller set up the lights tho. Granted not all of us are as careful with the timing, but a 2 way light is very easy to get fast and safe.
This happened to me a few years back, just as well the cops where behind me, the on coming traffic soon shut up after they spotted them, good driving btw, hope a first time pass went success
If she is so concerned about her career reputation then maybe she should think twice about her behaviour in public.
Yeah,what an utter muppet. Let's hope its just hot air she is blowing out,coz that woman better not have a job that affects other people
Couldn’t agree more!!
That is clear. I understand that this is NOT the USA. However, in the USA, it is a matter of law that you have no expectation of privacy when you choose to appear in public. You can be photographed (from a public space) without permission, in most cases.
@@DEAR7340 it's the same in the UK
Exactly this!
I love how Karen's numberplate has NPC in it.
Lol cos the gta 5 npc don't know how to drive
Was she actually a she, Really.. Well Karen's & kevs all look the same, They all have the same mantality.. Good Job your parents called you Kyle bless... I'm called Peter say no more 😂
What a catch dude 🤣
Hahahahah, we just need Oblivion music in the background
More like NBC
No Brain Character
Before the woman started reversing, I figured there must have been a queue of traffic behind blocking her. Nah, turns out she was just stubborn with an incredible ego... it's strange what putting someone at the wheel of a car does to their psyche.
I was so shocked when she just reversed all the way. I had assumed seeing how long winded she made it that the traffic piled up behind her. Any sensible person would've just reversed straight away to keep the traffic moving. So unnecessary
I LOVE when people try to argue with driving instructors…like c’mon it’s literally their job to know the ins and outs of driving
It’s Boris’ job to know the ins and outs of running a country….
Just because someone does something as a job doesn’t mean they’re an expert
@@maselm I’m pretty sure driving instructors have a lot less of ulterior motives than politicians, running an entire country is exponentially different when compared to simply preparing someone for a test. Point is, if something is dangerous a driving instructor isn’t going to encourage a pupil to do it bc they won’t pass, not passing quickly=bad reviews, bad reviews=no customers, no customers=business fucked, pretty obvious is it not? Doesn’t take a business degree to understand that right? If you think he wasn’t in the right here you need to either sit a driving test or sit it again.
@@maselm and I mean, im pretty sure either way compared to a random member of the public, a driving instructor is going to know a hell of a lot more about the subject than them, doesn’t matter how good they are in their field at that point when compared to a road raging idiot.
@@Rrachlloys Anyone making a UA-cam channel for subscribers and likes has an ulterior motive 👍🏻
@@Rrachlloys How do you know it’s just a random member of the public and not a driving instructor that isn’t working?
She’s going on about privacy, after taking a photo of Ashley & the learner without their permission... classic
There is no permission to be sought in public. No expectation of privacy, anyone who thinks that they need to give permission for a picture to be taken in public is seriously mistaken.
djtaylorutube didn’t say there was. Just saying how the old cow’s being hypocritical moaning about privacy
@@djtaylorutube Exactly, he was calling out the irony of the situation
I think she was hurt by the comment section. Not taking her side, but trying to logic it as much as possible. Then again she didn't move outta the way, so what logic is there really?
@@samowen7189 taking a photo or video and putting it online for everybody to see are two different things... that's what most privacy laws are about I suppose. Not about taking the material, but publishing it without the other one's consent.
Respect to the instructor for guiding the learner and having his back, even in a situation like this I would feel safe with him
'Didn't like the comments'; 'demanding the video be taken down'; 'threatening to go to police'. Her sense of self entitlement is staggering - zero self awareness so clearly learned nothing from the experience. Her appalling behaviour, sadly, is all too common.
Or, selfcentredness and lack of situational awareness - Too much time spent on video games at an early age?
@@28YorkshireRose12 Video games nothing to do with it, and everything to do with being 100% self-entitled. My guess is that they lived off the bank of mum and never had to actually buy their first car. Got their license handed to them on a plate, the test is much harder nowadays.
A great example of how, even though we all get older, some never grow up! She has tried being a bully all of her life. Here in the comments, people are simply pointing out just how terrible of a situation she added to
Everyone turning to the police for every stupid thing in this country that upsets them or offends them, and no wonder there is a resource problem in this country dealing with violent crime and home break-ins.People need to get a life.
@@28YorkshireRose12 Dafuq has playing video games got to do with it?
What a chad from the driving instructor for making sure that his student was not the fault of all this. I would’ve sheet my pants thinking I cause all of these traffic problems😂
My driving instructor would've been like "These people never ever blame themselves for stupid behavior and never ever have learned to think what might have caused problems in the beginning and did not watch what happened in front of them. It's not up to you to solve a problem someone else made."
@@Dutch3DMaster Unless that problem is a hazard to anyone's safety. Which in this case was not.
@@StefanVeenstra Obviously. If someone makes an error on the highway/motorway, yes, by all means you are obviously obliged to try and avoid the accident.
It's more that in this case, someone decided to go the "It's not my problem I came accross you while you were obviously much earlier into that one lane and that I'm now holding up traffic"-route, that's what I was trying to say ;).
It's brilliant instructing
It was very clearly not the learners fault anyway
After all these years and the few times of seen this I’ve just realised how Jacob the mad lad didn’t close down the window when instructed. Top man providing us with quality entertainment.
I drive a 44 tonne artic and I've had this same situation. I passed the light on green and about half way through the roadworks was a small side road that wasn't signal controlled. The lady in the car pulled out of that side road but she obviously hadn't looked to see which way the traffic was flowing. We both stopped and she demanded that I reverse the 400 yard back to the traffic lights to let her out. This is clearly not a safe thing to do and I refused. She ranted for a good minute and so I put my kettle on to make a coffee. She then proceeded to call the police and was promptly charged with careless driving. Karma😎
Hahahaha justice!
Brilliant, good job.
I had a horrible feeling when I read the first part of your comment that you were gonna end up reversing for her.
Doing my C+E next month. Maybe one day I'll end up with a story like this! Fair play on keeping your cool and glad the good karma was with you!
cant see how she was done for carless driving if her turn diddnt have a signal. I call bollocks
@@jeremydewitte5952 .
She pulled out of a minor side road without looking = careless driving.
I'm on your side Ashley, there is no privacy in public.
If they don't want people to see how daft they are then they shouldn't behave daft.
Absolutely. I say it all time: if you don't want to be called an arsehole, then don't act like an arsehole!
EXACTLY
If you act like this in public, then I wonder do you also act this in an interview, at your job, at home?
In public, you need to not do stupid things - keep them at home in private. If you don't want to be shown to the world how stupid you are, don't act stupid in the first place. Same goes for being nice to people, if you're nice you'd prob won't be that famous anyway tbh - as it usually won't be on the news.
Nowadays face cloths are used for that. Look for single persons, walking on the sidewalk or driving a car - with a face cloth. They don't want to be recognized and they like to re-inhale carbon dioxide to become duller.
@@gordondry What do you mean you “ they like to re-inhale carbon dioxide to become duller”? Pedestrians passing bye you could well just be walking for exercise and always wearing a mask to prevent breathing in the exhaust gases caused by a line of stationary vehicles which sounds pretty sensible or they may think that people are filming and want to hide their identity which is their prerogative even though there is no right of privacy in a public place. You are very much mistaken if you think that wearing a mask causes a buildup of CO2 and impairs your health and you can do a simple experiment by yourself a blood gas analyser eclipse on your finger and gives a reading of the amount of CO2/oxygen in your blood set wearing a mask and see how long it takes for the CO2 in your bloodstream to increase significantly i.e. by more than one or 2% then do a Google search to see what a healthy amount of CO2 actually is.
I don't think enough was made of the fact that a car followed the learner through the light at the start. That proves how close he was to the learner. It was useful to see how the dash cam distorts the perception of speed. Thank you for some great teaching here.
Ashley how about reporting the woman for using her mobile phone in a running Vehicle
Get over yourself
why ashley, anyone could send an e-mail to the local police with a link to the video, raise their "concerns", this is enough evidence for them to fine her at least.
@@lukejefferson7822 why? she deserves it...
Just take the video down it's absolutely unjust to keep the video up end of.
It's an academic matter anyway, if you've a genuine issue, raise it between yourselves no need to upload the video on UA-cam involving third parties
Credit to the instructor who is obviously furious and dealing with idiots but also aware that he is the example to his student so he keeps his temper under control.
Not quite under control I think. Hence "obviously furious".
@@franksierow5792 Under the circumstances he was perfectly in the right to be outraged and furious, however he was not abusive nor aggressive Frank, it is possible to be 'Obviously Furious' and also keep your temper under control, in the same way as is is possible to be hungry and not binge eat.
@@carlchapman4053
Trouble was they were both in the wrong, it was a 50/50 blame.
@@bobp6742 I disagree, however I would like to understand your version of the events so please talk me through it.
@@carlchapman4053
The instructor told the student on approaching the green light to "slow down as these have detectors as well" which he didn't, the instructor also told the student "don't try to make it" which the student also ignored, as the light had turned to amber before they reached the stop line it would of been safe to stop as the car behind which ran the red was a safe distance behind.
I guess that was the instructors car so would of been dual controlled in which case the instructor failed to take control of the car to stop his student from breaking highway code rules on amber lights.
It was obvious that the car in the opposite direction did run their red light in which case this is a 50/50 blame.
I've ran amber lights and red lights myself so I'm no angel, but the instructor should have made it clear to his student that they were all in the wrong.
The Karen just made things more interesting 😂
Daaaaaaamn thick people do attract each other don't they 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Also the edited voice going "I'M GOING TO REPORT YOU!" is such an angry Minnie Mouse sound it just made my day.
And you and your learner, just perfect 🥰 good work lads!
Feel sorry for the learner here, he's probably paying by the hour to be delayed by all these bellends.
He's getting the education he paid for!
Seriously, is that the case in England? I payed a standard amount of money for each lesson, no matter if we ended up in a huge traffic jam that delayed us to the next student or not.
@@Dutch3DMaster Yeah I’ve never heard of them being paid for by the hour.
@@ScottAndersonYT we have to pay by the hour here in Australia, makes learning to drive incredibly expensive
@@Athrodusk_Carnavoyer Same here in Germany, driving instructors are paid by the hour. Getting a driver's license can cost up to 2000€
Why do people get so fired up at the thought of having to reverse? if they learnt to drive properly they should be perfectly capable of backing up a bit to let someone through without getting all stressed about it.
She probably can't reverse. Did you see how the front of her car was wobbling all over. She knew she was shit at reversing so she tried to kick off instead
Youll be surprised mate, majority of people cant reverse park, or well, park anywhere in giant bays at the supermarkets. Amount of people parking almost diagonally crapping up 3 bays in the proces is astounding. And dont get me started on idiots trying to parallel park.
It could be an ego thing right? "I'M NOT GONNA BACK UP FOR YOU, YOU SHOULD DO IT FOR ME"
I’m in Wales and there are loads of single track roads, and we encounter lots of people who just can’t seem to reverse and they make up loads of excuses
…if you can’t reverse, you just shouldn’t be driving in the first place!
Honestly massive respect to the learner driver here, I would have been ridden with anxiety if this situation came alight!
The amount of poor drivers who think “green means GO” when green means “GO if it is SAFE”
Honestly I'm more apalled by the driver behind the lesson car who was like "Hey, they can go, so we can to!" while they definitely should've seen the amber and think "Nah, maybe we should stop...." especially because they definitely had the space for it.
Green means go end of story
@@Its_Me_Romano your life must be very exciting.
Got honked at for stopping in front of a green light when i heard a siren coming from behind. I didnt stop early enough because i hesitated because of this woman behind, leaving a gap so narrow that the ambulance driver just chose to go through the oncoming traffic. Also felt a mix of insecureness and anger for the rest of the drive (im a new driver).
@OneFortyFour if I have green he had red which means he's in te wrong
The situation would have cleared up in less than a minute if that cow had reversed quickly.
There were no vehicles behind her, and at least one behind our protagonists. Common decency dictates the least number of people be inconvenienced. People need to spend some time on single track roads once in a while...
I hope all these people now having seen the video feel absolutely stupid and see how ridiculous they are each and every one should write an apology to you
She could easily see there was obstruction ahead and carried on regardless!
I assumed she was blocked in by the cars behind her. I was shocked that she could have backed up at anytime, but decided to he an abdolute idiot instead
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I can't believe she kicked up such a fuss when she had such a short way to go back! This video highlights how important it is to stay calm in these situations and not resort to abusing people. I hope to maintain my patience at all times on the road.
I’ve come across this a couple of times and it’s always a woman and she refuses to move.
High profile job? I’m not left with that impression.
It’s actually so frustrating how people treat learners.
It really is. Too many people seem to forget that they were once learning to drive too.
@SornTrash I find it funny as I that have been drive for 12+ years was once a learner. People are strange then you have some like her and the other guy 🤦🏿♂️
A Cheshire!! Sorry oot
there's no learner in this video that's the driving instructor
@@mitismee There’s a learner driving the car, he’s instructing them the whole time. What video are you watching?
She was a minor, in a senior job, driving a car :D
I the original vid she looked late 30s early 40s. Minor my arse
She might've been a miner but definitely not a minor.
She was a minor, yep either a coal miner or a morris minor 😂😂
A minor pain.
She was a minor. Well, behaving like one at least :D
I commented exactly this on the original video... The driving instructor was very supportive towards the student and helped him keep calm during a tense situation. As a learner myself, busy incidents like that can be scary and I have witnessed one or two myself. But the instructor and student were fully in the right and handled it well. Good job to both of you.
Hilarious that they’re all kicking off at the learner, when the one causing all the disruption was just her as she had blocked the road completely so she could have a strop. Road was clear behind her!
Everyone arguing in that video are fully grown adults. Let that sink in.
People are stubborn and idiotic, they can be 80 or 8 and this fact just doesn't change unfortunately
Not only that, but they're also drivers... Now again: let that sink in. You could very well find yourself on the receiving end of their wisdom.
You forgot to add supposedly after the word adult lol
Hi Emily. I have let this sink in. Whats next please
Maybe they are a minor 😂
I'm glad you reuploaded it
You defended the young lad
You have the proof on your dashcam
1 V 10ing all the aggressive motorists who were all in the wrong
perfect example of a good and brave man, proud of you Ashley
Great analysis. People drive on autopilot: "Green means go! Screw everyone else!"
And when she DID decide to reverse... how quickly was the issue resolved?! Madness!
You’re referring to the learner there? He could have done better tbh
Yes green actually means go as oppose to amber which shoild hv been a stop in this situation
@@ixa.m9915 nah, if you watch the video you're commenting on, he addresses this
It’s like a magic trick, as soon as she moved everyone else was able to clear, my instructor said driving is about fixing other people’s mistakes, even if the learner was completely in the wrong, you can see there is another car right behind them so they have nowhere to go. Since she had nothing behind her she could just reverse and let them by rather than hold everyone up
@@ZachAsaD The learner did fine. Maybe not fantastically, but perfectly adequately.
High profile job, that’s a new word for on the dole is it
No its munter speak for manager at McDonalds 🤣
Selling Big Issues is no mugs game
Drives a Vauxhall Adam most likely on PCP for £60 a month so most likely on the dole hahaha
@Biking Bazil this is gold 😂😂
You're drifting towards 1980s Scouse-Joke territory...
It was a hard watch. I dare say I was more nervous watching it than those who were in it. Top marks for being in the right, putting the video up again, and giving the intelligent and insightful analysis. I think it is highly instructive, and despite being a driver with several decades experience, I have learnt from it. Sadly I have also learnt how ignorant some drivers are.
Has a high profile job but is seen in public looking like that and driving a corsa? hmm...
I don't much care if you dress like that and drive a Corsa when you're not at work. But if you have a "high profile job" then maybe you shouldn't behave like that, even if you're off work.
What’s wrong with a corsa Kante the Chelsea player drives a mini and he’s far richer than yourself I’m sure :P
Definitely works at McDonald's
Not forgetting she is also a minor.
@@danielfinch362 ^ Thats a farce - if she was a minor, she'd need an adult with her for at least a year after test - so learn to drive at 17, become adult at 18 - so must have an adult with you to make sure you'd drive safe after the test. I'd say she's easily in her 30s if anything, and should appear in the Reddit threat Entitled Parents.
No right nor expectation of privacy when you're in public.
If you have a high profile job, maybe don't go causing a scene, on camera, in public.
That is patently untrue and misinformation. You do have a reduced expectation to privacy in public, of course, but you certainly do not waive all your rights to privacy. Peck v. UK, PG and JH v. UK and the 'von Hannover' case that went to the ECtHR would beg to differ as to why you are not correct.
In this situation she has no right to privacy or respect.
By this ladies own logic...we should uhh repeal all convictions of theft that were caught on Camera and the video evidence being the only material that lead to the conviction....
Any and all speeding tickets should be waived because they were than likely caught by an automated camera system because those cameras infringe on my privacy.
Yeah I'm being sarcastic. No expectation of privacy in public so really Ashley didn't need to do Jack.
Problem is youtube follows a more USA T&C in the uk, public place in UK you have no expectations of privacy (Germany is actually the worst you can get fine or arrested, I don't actually know how Tesla get away with their sentry mode in Germany)
Or do and show that you shouldn't have said job. Either one is fine.
First time of watching this, but all I can say is that I really wish that I had had someone like you to have been my driving instructor. Calm, and professional, even when you were being provoked. Great job!
You missed a trick here not adding a silly face over angry lady’s own face. But I guess you’re trying to make a serious point so I commend you for taking the professional approach 😉
Momo would have been a good one 😂
😡 emoji
Him making her voice sound like a little girls was a strong and hilarious enough touch imo 😂👍
@@DashCamHull isn't this dumb women in the intro of other vids? :D
You should have seen the original, no need for a silly face mask covering her actual boat race 😀
This guy seems like the perfect driving instructor. Calm, clear and encouraging.
Having been a driving instructor for Arriva bus company and a professional driver for 45 years ,you got this spot on my friend 👍
like 20 people wasted like 15 minutes of their lives just because that one Karen wouldn't get out of the fucking way. And the road was clear behind her the whole time...
We live in a small town, and once I had to deliver something to this house (from Facebook marketplace).
I knocked on the door, and heard him shout "DOOOR!" From inside, but his wife wasnt in. I waited, no answer, I knocked again, 3 fucking times. In the end, I dumped the items in the front garden in the rain and walked away.
I can hardly describe the various levels of disgust I have for this person.
@@Nbomber Are you on about the owner of this channel?
Congrats to Jacob!
The real joke is how little effort it took for the ***(redacted driver)*** to reverse and resolve this in a matter of seconds.
The whole "I was on green when I went" argument is farcical when all you achieve is causing an incident through poor planning.
So glad you put this back up as it's a great lesson for learners and more experienced drivers alike.
I have to say I am incredibly impressed by the level of calm and collection shown by you Ashley, In my area, if the same incident had happened, it would or could have ended up in a brawl and police being called. You are an example to us all. 👍👍
my favourite thing about the whole incident is the couple in the car behind him just sitting patiently :P
They should have stopped to be honest. :)
Yeah, probably feeling sheepish that they ran a red light and ended up stuck in a blockage, haha!
LOL At 8:26 you can clearly see that woman deliberately pushed up to get involved in the sittuation like it was the highlight of her day... Affecting her job? She should have been sacked!!
It's her fault now that its all brought back up again. Many people forgot and moved on from the original video onto brighter horizons. Now its all back again.
And that, is an excellent point! ✅
@@28YorkshireRose12 I concur. Wouldn't be surprised if it goes viral. Others have indicated that they will share/forward. Admit to have shared this too 😉.
Streisand effect. You seek to ban something instead of just admitting shame and hoping it all goes away and people are 100x more interested in what you want to hide. It becomes a self un-fulfilling prophecy.
@@grahamnutt8958 And there you go! - There are old sayings about "Least said, soonest mended" and "Let sleeping dogs lie". I guess this dog just jumped up and bit her in the arse?!
@@28YorkshireRose12 I could make a snide comment about dogs....... but I won't (hang on, I just did rofl). Thx 4 reply 😉👍.
I still can't believe this actually happened, and the cheek of people to try and blame you instead, shocking.
Hi james
Cuz he was at fault. He came through amber nd blocked all the ppl nd started acting entitled to all those who were going through green light..it waz actually funny hearing him insult the otber ppl saying that they compounded the problem by going through green light.. like bro serioisly? 😂😂😂ppl r supposed to go through green light
Ha Ha Lets hope drivers don’t drive through a green light if you happen to be in their way. Green light is only go if the road ahead is clear, just as Ashley attempted to explain to the other road users.
@@ixa.m9915 if he went through a amber and met people that means they ran a red either that or the signal is waaaay off
First time I have seen this video... Have to say your student handled it brilliantly and was a great experience for him. People like the cars coming through on a green and not having the brains to hold back need to be taught how to drive and not just how to pass a test, which seems like a large number of people on the road have done . Great work @AshleyNeal . Keep it up matey.
i'm 46, i've been driving since i was 22 that means 24 years of driving, in this situation, i would have stopped at the yellow light, but, he was a learner driver, the instructor did the right thing with the learner, i watched the light all the way as he went through and it was still on yellow, so no breach of the highway code was made. people such as myself forget they were once a learner driver and as experienced drivers it is our responsibility, to give time and space to the learner.
In a previous video it was shown that they wouldn't have been able to stop safely in that situation and going through the yellow was pretty much their only option. The learner isn't in the wrong but the silver car from the start is
@@adambilling3280 The black Citigo behind could have helped also by pulling back on approach to the roadworks, it looked fairly well signposted. If the Citigo had been further back I'd have expected Ashley would've said stop as it's unnervingly common for people to run temporary red lights.
If I were driving I'd have probably stopped at the Amber, even if i know I don't have to. I aint an instructor though, Ash is, I know a hell of a lot less about the rules and the tolerances of the rules.
On my first watching of the video, I thought the same "ooh, yellow light, bit dicey" but, looking back over it with the review, inexperienced driver, plus the car behind, going through was the right call, as they could have easily caused an accident by slamming on the anchors at that point. That was my only quibble at all though. Everything else was clear cut, especially from a few moments later when it was clear the first two cars encountered had run the lights at the other end (must have to have been that far through given that the light had only just changed at the near end).
Glad to see others agree and had the same "ooh not sure" as me. I can't be a horrific driver then :)
@@CplBurdenR I'd have expected him to stop on the yellow too if he was approaching slowly as Ashley was advising. But different when it's a learner and others about. I think the camera can be a bit misleading in terms of distance and situation too.
@@jimwest7107 heartily agree :)
I remember the original. No way was she a minor!
people using any excuse these days to justify their Foolishness
Well, not so much justify her behaviour but clutching at straws to get the video taken down. She will have frantically searched for reasons for grounds for it to be removed and posting videos of minors without the parents permission will no doubt be one of them. Kind of shot herself in the foot by being on film driving a car alone etc, minor indeed 😂
The only thing minor is her IQ score
Perhaps she's a high profile miner.
Was she driving that car by herself (without L plates)?
As you must be 17 (unless you receive mobility allowances) to drive a car, to be a minor she must have recently passed her test
Is the deteriation between driving to the standard of the test and what is witnessed really that great?
Mind you, the actions of the people in the video was very much that of minors...
You handled the situation incredibly well, considering you had to take into account yourself, Jacob as a learner, aggressive drivers and rectifying the situation. The only thing I would've done differently (which may have not made any difference considering how dense the female in red seemed to be) is when she initially approached and was clearly being confrontational, is adopt a slightly less harsh tone, as maybe the initial command riled her. Great vid as always.
"I have a high profile job" is an open invitation for ridicule.
I think her high profile job is behaving like an Arse in public lol
And a minor too, I assume Prince Andrew was with her
In today's world people have dash cameras and film anything and everything. If you have a high profile job then you should have stayed in your car and dealt with the situation accordingly you should not have got out your vehicle and block the road and you should not have had your opinion if that is what an experienced driver does when they can't get to where they want to be then don't take it out on others doesn't matter with a day whether they are experienced driver or a learner the situation is still the same
i wonder if it is a Teacher with a big ego .
That being the case , a complaint to her employer would have been in order : as soon as she played the 'high profile job' card , she brought her employer into the dispute and therefore damaged their reputation by her obvious disorderly misconduct in a public place .
don't these people understand that for every 10 seconds they stand there talking, another car is lining up and the situation keeps getting harder to resolve?
So that entire situation could've been fixed faster if NPC lady just reversed from the beginning, what a joke
her number plate just says it all shes an NPC
she does not help herself by racing up after the Ford is revering in to the gap at 8:26 on the vid when she could have reversed back at that point and saved wasting 6-7 mins of everyone's time
Probably saw the 'L' plates at that point. She seemed to be holding back up until then.
Look at the bounce on her car as she slams the brakes through the floor, what a total tool
@Strange Fruit having a bad day is an excuse for being a bit rude at the checkout. Not for trying to intimidate learner drivers. What was she going to achieve by driving up the other side?
@@Skett Ummm having a bad day is not an excuse for being a bit rude at the checkout. And what if the checkout person is having a bad day? Having a bad day is not an excuse to be rude and, trust me, I know I've had plenty of them in my time.
@@jakesmith4017 that's fair, I just struggled to think of something that is actually an excuse for so I went with something basic!
You are a true gentleman! Need more instructors that truly care for their students like you!!!!
Shout out to Jacob. He did a great job! I hope he is doing well in driving and in life. 😘🤗
The only thing high profile other than her reputation is her BMI
Lol
Muhammad Akbar lol. I didn't know they had a BMI scale that high. lol.
Lancered They don’t. They line her up on one of those trailer truck scales
Aaaahwww, that is just mean.
Cough cough "moron obese" cough cough
Body shaming the person says more about you than them. Do better.
"What happened first of all, do you know?"
"No idea"
Brilliant question to ask in that situation. Nice advocating for your students as well!
I love how angry these people got at being delayed, but due to an inability/unwillingness to fix the actual problem, they did nothing to solve it, and got more delayed.
Well done Jacob. You are going to meet people like that all the time while driving, just don't be like them.
1foot2feet can confirm, I’ve had people scream in my face before now.
I'm learning to drive on my motorbike right now. If i was appoching this light system i'd always be prepared to stop if it's on geen. I wouldn't jump though an amber mostly as i'm learning to do defensive riding. People will always wanna jump when they can & sometims the light isn't always setup properly. I'd just perfer to wait but i'm on a bike so a bit diffrent. I just don't wanna face a car with no escape route.
I think the "NPC" on her number plate just about says it all
learn something new everyday, thanks to urban dictionary!
Well done for putting this back up , and the analysis was spot on , loved how you made her voice sound like a cartoon , glad you blurred her face tbh , judging by the rest of her it probably wasn't a pretty sight anyway LOL
I’m so glad that I never had to confront any situations like this when I was learning to drive. Massive kudos to Jacob for seemingly remaining calm during this whole ordeal. Lots of learners wouldn’t have, I sure as hell wouldn’t have. To be honest, I don’t think I’d had handled it as well as he did, and I’ve held my full license for nearly 3 years now.
I probably would not have as well. Thankfully also owner of a full license for about the same year now (we don't really have a difference here, the only thing that is different that for 2,5 or 3 years the amount of total points you might get when getting fined for something you did wrong is lower, I think it's like 3 points before you loose your license whereas it's 5 or 6 when you are considered an experienced driver).
Let's be honest, youtube didn't even check your video to see that she is in the middle of a public road.
Yes, it seems this business of censoring someone is done without any consideration of whether there's a case for it to be done. It's all so faceless - to whom do you complain when, like Ashley, you're accused of abusing the rules? There's no one taking responsibility and making judgement calls, it all seems very knee-jerk and snowflake-like.
@@sallybilzon3507 if I remember right, could be wrong but the claims are all up to the claimant, for copyright that's true I assume thats the case for privacy complaints but if he was to appeal it it's up to the claimant to decide and if it's denies he gets a strike, NOW THIS IS FOR COPYRIGHT I have no idea what it's like for privacy complaints it could be the same could be different I think it's different but idk,
My first time seeing the video, my first thought the traffic lights were maybe set at the wrong time interval to allow traffic to clear. But you handled it like a pro. Well done.
Makes sense. The town by my Uni has a big road through it and one of the permanent light crossings is just silly out of sync. It will sit on red when there's no cars, it's a one way junction and there can be no cars for miles coming down before it changes green. Countless times i sat waiting just incase because its a nasty corner to see around and all of the times it's been dead clear long before the light changes.
Having watched the original video, and now this one;-
I would like to congratulate your (now former) pupil in remaining calm and chilled in a very tense situation.
Given everything that is shown on this video, I think you did the right thing.
Privacy is out of the question. They're in the public, they have no intention of privacy. It's the law.
some people can't seem to grasp this concept.
In the EU, it works a bit differently I think. But considering the UK is leaving the EU in December, the UK no longer has any obligation to keep those laws no the books.
That's the way I have always thought about it but unfortunately if I remember correctly uk law is not that simple, you can be fined for recording people without consent especially if they are minors
John Doe the UK never had those laws. Photography of anyone or anything from a public place is legal.
I've noticed that people doing wrong in public often don't appreciate their photo being taken.
I once had a neigbour cause an obstruction when he parked his car. Over a hour later I went out and photographed it, front & back. Interestingly enough he came flying out almost immediately and without even a hint of remorse demanded I delete the photos. I held my ground and told him to call the police if he wasn't happy. He eventually got the message and didn't cause any further problems until his lease was up. The new neighbours are much better. ☺
Wow what a driving lesson to be on! Mental! Top marks for your professionalism and calmness.
Got to admit that when I was learning I stalled at a set of traffic lights when they went green on "accident" due to the driver behind me following way too closely and started to beep his horn in a road rage way and managed to pull away safely just before the lights went amber safe to say the male Karen had no choice to stay for a second dose of waiting lol, my learning instructor gave me a grin and said well done you composed yourself very well, and that gave me a smile and a massive confidence boost the rest of the day lol
Hehe, I had someone who decided to be a showoff at a traffic light and was reving his engine as if to signal he was going to spurt out in the same direction as us when we had a green.
It was a traffic-flow regulated light so it probably turned green sooner than he expected and since he was making faces towards my instructor as if to signal "I'm going to give your learner a fucking jump-scare!!" he didn't notice it in time and when we started moving he panicked when trying to get into second gear and stalled.
My driving instructor first laughed out loud and then became silent and said "What an idiot!" and since I didn't really notice what had been going on he explained, and ended with "Those people are bound up to either meet the wrong person someday who will not give them the space they tried to claim, or will end up folding themselves around a tree because they fly out of a curve."
@@Dutch3DMaster male karen?? U purposely messed up with other car's chances of going through a green light..nd calling them male karen..atleast realize where u r at fault instead of taking pride in it
@@ixa.m9915 the point is that when you see a learner you have to be patient, people that are new to driving have every right to accidentally stall, theyre just learning
@@Kalash74 anyone has the right to accidentally stall. It happens. Being a prick about it and responding in dangerous way just shows you should have license removed.
@@Sypheara agreed
Ashley, well done to both you and your student for keeping composed in a trying situation.
1st time viewing this, and even without any of the justification you can tell the learner driver was fully in the right... kept calm and drove well... well done !
How can she be a miner she's driving.💯
Maybe she mines other peoples aggravation, like some sort of emotional vampire.
She was driving to her high-profile job at the salt mine.
Exactly my thoughts. Not to mention she does not look or sound like a minor. And minors working, let alone high profile job?
What’s the minimum age to get a license there? Cause I live in Canada and have my license at 16, so I wouldn’t find that odd (although her appearance is quite concerning if she’s saying she’s a minor lmao) and what kind of high school student has a “high-profile job”? Lmao
@@p1kkuma in the eu you generally can get your license at 18, 17 if you're driving with you parents (like literally ALWAYS with your parent in the passenger seat) or at 15 if you're a foreigner in france.
also I guess she looks like a high profile minor miner on reality tv, who shows people how it's like to have had 5 children before turning of age.
The problem these days, Ashley, is that many folk are too interested in “standing up for their own rights of way” rather than in helping to keep the traffic flowing, even it means conceding their legal priority every now and then. In this case, if we give the first driver the benefit of the doubt and he DIDNT actually jump the lights, everyone except the coarse lady tried to make the best of a tricky situation, put their rightful priority(?) to one side, and get the traffic moving again.
We’ve all been caught like this before at some point and there for grace of God, go I...
Thanks for the vid
I used to get this all the time when I was driving lorries, and I'm sorry but, most of the time it was women and old people.
They have all the attitude required to force themselves into those situations, but none of the ability to get themsleves out of it.
So they go on the offensive to cover their shame by putting it on you.
I gave up HGV getting on 13 years ago, because there were just too many dickheads on the road, even then. The same reason I quit riding motorcycles after 30 years, too (except there, one of them got me. Torpedoed on a roundabout by someone who thought if he went fast enough, he could phase through me at the molecular level).
That's why I like your channel, you're actually trying to do something about that.
All power to you Ashley. Keep up the good work.
I like it how Ashley is able to explain the situation to the other drivers in a calm and inoffensive way, yet he is very fair and has the guts to be blunt with anyone who deserves it. A lot of people get far too hot under the collar in the car and its refreshing for seeing someone just be calm and logical.
I watched this 1st time out. I feel the learner and instructor dealt with this perfectly.
I noticed that she was the instigator of a breach of privacy (doesn't exist on public areas) by taking a video/photo from her phone in front of the driving school car, as for the muppet who said "pack of lies" I hope he now knows that he is a muppet, all dash cams footage look faster than the speed actually is, this is due to the lack of panoramic view as opposed to eyesight and the camera is fixed and rigid. There are other factors to take into account as to why it seems faster but not required here for explanation. Top shout Ashley.
Ashley, every one of your videos is a learning experience. I actually passed my test in 1969 (probably before you were born) but still watch every one with interest. The attitude of the "lady" and some of the other drivers was appalling. A green light gives you the right to proceed only if the road is clear. At any normal set of lights you would expect to wait at the line if the road ahead is blocked even when your light is green so temporary road works lights should be exactly the same. It is apparent that the "lady" drove very quickly up to the queue of cars even though she was very near the start of the affected stretch and could clearly see that the way was blocked. This demonstrated very poor judgement and lack of anticipation which was then compounded by her subsequent outrageous behaviour and threats. Your learner handled the situation very calmly and, in part, I put that down to your style of tuition as well as the character of the lad himself. This should never have been taken down and I fully support your decision to repost it and applaud the detailed analysis that rebuffs earlier criticisms.
Well said 👍.
Exactly, people seem to think a green light means blast ahead regardless of what's ahead/not cleared the junction for whatever reason. It means go when safe and clear to do so...
That point when she said “I’ll report you” in a helium balloon voice 😂👍🏻 you now sound as silly as you looked, bravo Ashley 😆
Niko Bellic No way, you got any cake up in the kitchen ?!?!?
Hey cousin! Wanna go bowling?
Thank you for putting this back up complete with the rear view as it does show that taking the option to stop before the stop here sign would likely have caused the following driver to have skidded after locking their brakes as they would have had to perform an emergency stop themselves. That would have only been a fraction of a second between them not piling into the back of your car and ending in a crash.
As I know about drivers who do not regularly practice doing an emergency stop and I only know one person who does that, and that would be me, I can assure you that the following driver would most likely have not managed to stop before connecting with the rear of your car so your reaction time in assessing your learners ability to stop before the sign was correct and bang on as teaching your pupil to drive.
I agree with you that the most likely scenario would be that at least two of the drivers had entered from side roads because they saw no other oncoming from their right and took a chance that the other end light had already gone to green but failed to take any notice of the time it took them to reverse into the available spaces there by compounding those drivers who had probably come through a green light in thinking they had right of way.
The issue here is that the drivers who thought they had it right but did not take any consideration of how much time had already passed but I could not see whether there was sufficient view along this far too long set of roadworks and as we see from the video those that did not reverse out of the way only compounded the problem as they could be seen having to wave people who had started on a green light which was sequencing behind us.
Your analysis was good and as your pupil passed his test he had obviously listened to his instructor.
Can I ask that you add into your course a recommendation that you teach your pupils to find some empty roads where they can practice emergency stops at least on a weekly basis. This will teach them how to brake without locking the wheels, especially in wet conditions, and this will give more experience so there will be less back end shunts and our insurance premiums will begin to drop.
Regards Richard
Making mistakes is excusable. Refusing to admit them is not
Jumping a red light is not a mistake, it's stupidity, however, the crazy woman in this video may not have jumped a red light, but people ahead of her did.
I dont know why the students speed was brought up! You can clearly see he wasn't passing 30 mph even without the Google maps analysis.
And the woman doing the complaining was a complete child
Nice work Ashley was totally professional and kept your cool. The way you spoke was to the point and I think that is why it didn't get any worse.
Thank you for posting. I hadn't seen it before but its rediculous that people would carry on when the road is clearly blocked and then to refuse to move is silly. You guys were on the way through and had right of way. Thanks again for posting it.
everyone has right of way - this is simply the right to use the highway .
Fair play to the lad and yourself keeping your cool, the lads only learning, showing my partner how to drive has given me a whole new perspective and a big reminder that we all once were learner drivers.
That lass demanding the world to stop for her needs to give her head a wobble
You're spot on mate could not have handled this situation any better. Happy to hear the lad passed first time, obviously taught well.
If she had behaved properly there would have been no video.
Everyone has had to learn to drive so not sure why people give learner drivers a hard time it's already stressful for a learner driver, and the woman is a clown.
Good luck to Jacob he’s lucky to have you as instructor. I’ve been in this situation myself, caught up where someone jumped the red light. Everyone blames everyone else and they all start arguing instead of trying to work out a way of getting out of it. At the end of the day, it’s about people’s pride and whose right of way it is!
As a HGV Driver with just over 35 yrs of driving I loved what you've done here & well done.
Sounds like a Karen, if you said no she would of wanted to see UA-cams manager.
Is that her name. Please stop being sexist and using peoples name as an insult
When people refer to others as a Karen, it's not as a name but as a stereotype.
@@healingandgrowth-infp4677 oh shut up will you. People call females a “Karen” when they are being bitchy when they are either in the wrong or just being a nuisance, if they are male they are called a “Ken” rarely used but still used sometimes alright
@@phxntomvghxst actually it should be kyle no?
@Pixel If it quacks like a Karen, behaves like a Karen, looks like a Karen - it's probably a Karen.
You both handled that situation very well, theres no need for the others drivers to act like that. TBH Ashley when you where analysing your video, I personally would have prepared to stop as soon as the temporary traffic lights turned to Amber in my opinion. The reason I Say this is my Driving Instructor 15 years ago told me it means prepare to stop. Although on the theory test it says
"Amber: Stop. If you have already crossed the stop line when the amber light appears or are positioned close to the stop line where stopping may be dangerous, you should proceed"
I do agree with you that some of those drivers jumped the red light and some of them could of came out of the side roads and driveways.
The Geriatrics in the Ford that was arguing with you and Jacob need to grow up and have a bit of consideration for learner drivers. They need to remember they was learning once but had it easy because there was no theory in the old days.
As for the Karen lol high profiled job? she only drives a Corsa.
I had 25 years of this type of thing until a 30 ton artic travelling at 60 mph changed lanes on a dual carriageway. It spun us and then went into the drivers side and pushed us sideways for around 150 metres. Thankfully both myself and the pupil walked away but you can imagine the state of the car. At that point I decided I had had enough and set about retiring. In Germany a driving instructor is a respected professional. Shame that doesn’t happen here.
Oooooh she was embarrassed because she can’t reverse
Yeah? She can reverse alright...
Really interesting analysis at the end of your video, and the 2 "wrong" cars quickly reacted to solve the issue (and I suspect they joined from driveways or similar along the Roadworks route). But the attitude of the next group who should have hung back, was totally out of order, and kicking off at a L car under tuition was thoughtless. Finally, had the disgruntled woman revered up sooner, the road would have been cleared promptly. She deserves to be SEEN and shamed.
As a retired driving instructor of 26 years on HGV, PSV and cars, I find the lady in the red top to be a complete prat. She could have resolved the situation so easily by simply reversing back at the start. On thing however that as far as I know, has not been mentioned is the timing of the lights.
true on this
Yeah, I thought that. They could have been slightly out of sync, with amber on this side and green on the other. They had come a fair way down the road though. I've had grief on these kind of roadworks too when I've gone through on green but the traffic has driven so slowly through that it's green in the other direction before we clear. People assume you've run the red.
Send me the unedited video, I will upload it to my channel for all to see. The lady in question is in the wrong, end of. Respect others, especially someone who is learning as they go.
And me i will post it on Facebook, twitter
Same
@@warped434 WARNING to everyone. I followed this link, and immediately got a warning from Google that someone had tried to sign on with my Google account. The email I use for Google is not used elsewhere, so that website is trying to access viewers' accounts. Beware.
@@nigelcox1451 Its a meme site. You just click and view it. If you gave them your Gmail then you are an idiot.
Her face is unblurred in Ashley's little intro bit at the start of videos.
Fairplay for the re-upload. Crazy, and very wrong that UA-cam sided with the woman. Hoping this vid gets more views than the original.
The fact her reg plate has NPC on it is amazing
I’m glad you’ve blurred her face, saves me from having to rip my eyes out every time I see it’s face 🙈 I’m also saving fortunes on food now that I don’t vomit from seeing that things face, it’s a shame you couldn’t blur their body too, since it’s still making me nauseate 🤢🤮
hope she sees this
I was an ADI for thirty years and I can almost guarantee that the opposing drivers, if asked what the green light means, they would say “go!” This is wrong as per the Highway Code. You are correct, always blame the learner ( and instructor). A similar thing happened to me due to an unavoidable situation with the road maintenance crew. They put the other driver right and told him that he shouldn’t have proceeded until his way ahead was clear!
Thanks for the extra analysis, it did appear that you were travelling quickly, but good to see how the camera distorts that.
Temporary traffic signals wil often cause grief on longer sections, as they are often set up by people who's skills are digging holes rather than traffic management. It is possible that the lights phasing was poor, but the ones you met initially either came from the side roads, jumped a red, or perhaps just took too long to travel through. Whatever the cause, it is up to everybody to do what they can to unravel the mess, the first two dived for cover quickly, but then the rest got stroppy. The last entrance into the building site looked big enough to hold them all, so the situation could have been cleared quite quickly. Disappointing that people let anger get in the way of just sorting it out.
Also disappoiinting that so many comments are aimed at the way she looks. Good to criticise her actions and attitude, poor to criticise her looks, as these are irrelevant. But we learn this at school, we call each other names, lots based on physical features, like 'fat git', etc.
They are required to have an authorised traffic controller set up the lights tho. Granted not all of us are as careful with the timing, but a 2 way light is very easy to get fast and safe.
This happened to me a few years back, just as well the cops where behind me, the on coming traffic soon shut up after they spotted them, good driving btw, hope a first time pass went success
Well done to the pair or you for dealing with it calmly, and assertively.