Honestly, the only Cool/Ace Trainers that don't look good are the Gen 1 ones, but is that even fair considering they were the first games? Of course the art wouldn't be very good. Oh, and Let's Go Aces are kinda meh too.
The point of the Bug Maniac is that they're Bug Catchers who never grew out of their bug catching phase, so there is some differentiation. Sure they didn't have to make this class considering their team structure isn't always stronger, but it does expand on the world of trainer classes in a unique way.
I always thought that Bug Maniacs were something similar to Collectors, Super Nerds or Poke Maniacs, but fixated on bugs. Like those 3, they also feel creepy and possibly threatening towards a kid protagonist.
I love bikers, specially the "kanto's bikers", they use "pollution Pokémon" and I love it. It is nice to see someone bad that doesn't belong to an evil team.
@@AstaryuuGaming That's funny. As a kid I used to fear him because he'd cause the double battle faint glitch and I didn't know how to get out of it so I'd have to restart without having saved in a while.
@@nellewoodruff6337 The double battle faint glitch? I forgot about that. Brings back memories. Like when I got it in an important battle, and that was when I figured out how to get out of it.
15:05 To my understanding, Macro Cosmos is the conglomerate organization that in one way or another manages a great deal of the businesses in the Galar region. This includes managing/running the Pokemon League, hence why league staffers look the same as Macro Cosmos employees, they are themselves technically Macro Cosmos employees too. They sort of joke about this in the series of elevator battles where you face off against a bunch of Macro Cosmos employees who will specify the various subdivisions of Macro Cosmos that they work in. If you do the optional Poke Jobs stuff you also learn a bit more about the various divisions.
Yeah the whole point it that chairman rose basically is a nice person, just misguided in his use of capitalism. I’m not critiquing capitalism either, just point out that the macro cosmos corporation is literally every company imaginable.
Lol, I always thought most of the Joggers trainers were NPC that we can’t battle. No wonder I didn’t fight many of them. XD And I’m glad the developers made a trainer class that acknowledges the older demographic. Thanks for a great and unique video, Emperor Cubone. Props for the shout out to the Doctor trainers, though it is odd that we have to beat them before they actually heal our Pokemon. XD
@@emperorcubone I ran across the joggers myself cause for some reason as a kid I set the in-game clock for REALLY late even though it was daytime so as a result I ended up seeing joggers while playing in the afternoon and as such had no idea they were rare.
Honestly ace trainers are the best. The gen 4 ace trainer double battles were the bane of my existence. And the worst part is that they look cool during it.
Juggler: I constantly switch out my Pokémon in battle! Trainers: *Amazing, every word of what you just said...was wrong* I just love listening to the Lumiose City music, gives me warm memories of getting lost in that maze of a city.
To be fair, Jugglers are supposed to have a 1 in 4 chance to switch out their Pokémon every turn, but their teams tend to be so weak that they never get to flex that gimmick.
Yeah someone else said they're the worst but I disagree; they had a whole gimmick based around them, but also easy to avoid so they're pretty interesting.
@@emperorcubone The reason Sky Trainers are hated is because they are to blame for the lack luster flying animations many Pokémon have been stuck with since Gen 6 despite Sky Battles never returning.
One of my favourite classes is the Interviewer Class. I like double battle specific classes and that it is made from two individual separate trainer classes. I like the mechanic around the interview itself, and like that they are roaming in some games. (Also they give decent cash rewards 🤑)
Imagine having the option to discover secret bandit hideouts in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet and being able to sneak around and ambush them to gain the upper hand in battles similar to Skyrim.
What if the Juggler trainer used 'Mons that had moves like U-Turn and Volt Switch and other moves that utilized switching with other 'Mons. That would make it a little challenging as you would have to change your attacks up and adapt to whatever 'Mon switches in next, mostly because the switch is usually a random 'Mon.
It'd be fun if the added a place called something like Bandit's Valley where every time you passed through you'd have to face tougher and tougher bandits until you eventually face off against the Bandit Chief and get them to stop terrorizing the valley.
Pimanrules had a video about this topic, hosted a tournament between each trainer in Gen 1 and ranked them all using chess style Elo score. Highly recommend, it was extremely interesting.
@@skotiaH2O if I remember correctly, it was just one juggler that ranked high simply because he only had one Pokémon, so he couldn’t waste his turns switching.
I quite like the trainer classes which show people with the type of pokemon they would use in their jobs. So, sailors with water and fighting types, nurses and doctors with Audino and Chansey, engineers with electric and steel types, etc. It really helps show how people and pokemon work together in that world.
I feel like that mostly happens in reverse, with them saying, "We need a Ground user!" so they make Ruin Maniacs. But it is still a nice touch that they're able to match them up convincingly!
3:35 You should have mentioned that ORAS' Aces can make use of Surf too. That gives the World a more coherent feel in my book. They are also among the few that add surprising Pokémon to their teams when rebattled several times. (If you Shiny Hunt on the Water that will happen to you more times than you care to admit, trust me.) 4:27 The Hex Maniacs (or just Witch) are a very odd trainer class in hindsight. Why? Look at the Gen 3 Spritework for the class. Now look at Mismagius. These similarities are too plentiful to be a mere coincidence. 5:03 I don't like the Pokéfans. Or more concisely I dislike the male Pokéfans. Why? More often than not have a Child with them. In the "Battle Sphere" and nowhere else? Where is their Child in the "actual world"? It can't be too much to ask to just set up a Child Sprite next to them... (They could even nicely pair them up with Poké Kid next to them: "You may have beaten Daddy, but I am stronger than him!") 6:50 By the way: The Pokémon Ranger Movie can be watched for free on Pokémon TV. (At least for the rest of the month.) 8:35 Probably because they look almost exactly the same like last Gens "Experts" too. 9:34 According to that logic all Amateur Sports Leagues in _our_ World are redundant too. 9:48 Just one City? That's just false. Okay, I know that the Village Bridge has seen a fair share of Floodings but I didn't thought that its existence has been washed away that bad... 11:58 That's an accurate description for Nobility as a whole though.
They are there all the time, but they will only battle you the morning when you'll never be playing. By contrast the cops will only battle you at night, which you are far more likely to run across...
6:08 I bet the Bug Maniacs are supposed to be the weaker versions of the Bug Catchers, who are just hobbyists. To become a Bug Maniac would mean to give in to an obsession, losing something of your identity and battling skill in it.
I know he complained about the copy-pasted trainer classes in gen 6, but the ones at 11:48 are really cute. They had cool pokemon in the various cafés and restaurants.
1:14 ok I loved my encounter with the Magicarp only guy in Pokemon White. Everyone else had Basculin or other generations fish but not this guy the rare 6 Magicarp team to rival the 5 metapod and one cacoona team for bug trainers. 9:27 hey don't Dis my favorite post game training partners. They help level my Pokemon to level 70 and higher.
The jugglers were originally Gypsies, which for obvious reasons was changed in the english dub. They used psychic types due to the stereotype of gypsies being future sighters and palm readers
It is a very underappreciated detail, and I think it helps the world feel more alive. You don't feel like you're battling the same five people over and over.
I like the fact that they change things up and not keep doing the same things over and over. Emperor Cubone: That's blasphemy! We must use the same classes over and over.
Now that you mention it... Bandit class can be used as the best roadblock in the scarlet and violet games!!! Imagine having to choose between two paths, one to complete the current gym and the other to advanace with the story and there will always be one bandit ambushing in the latter. (Bandits get increasingly harder to fight as the story progresses) If you defeat them they would let you proceed on first (road block due to lack of badges can come later) but if you are defeted you lose money and some items and will be sent to the current city's pokemon centre.
Anyone else bothered by how his tone changes when he does his outro? I get that the majority of his viewers may be kids since he's a pokemon channel and he's been doing outros like that for years, but it just makes my hairs stand up every time I reach the end of his videos
12:40 "A power spot (パワースポット or pawa-supotto in Japanese) is an area where spiritual visitors can take in the energy of the Earth and experience healing, generate good luck, or rejuvenate a tired body and soul" It's a tourism term, nothing to do with max raid dens.
Liking the vid so far! How about a video on the best trainer of each class on a game or across them all. For example the best birdkeeper trainer or the best ace trainer etc
Well I'll be honest I would have no idea where to start on that; I guess I'd first have to track down every single trainer of one type across 8 gens. That sounds like a project for later...
Bug Catcher are kids, Bug Maniacs are adults. So, there is a reason why they exist. Further more, the Bug Maniacs, as adults, have a job of studying Bug Type Pokemon. So, they are researchers as such. Bug Catchers are just kids playing around catching insects like many kids do when they are young. I cannot defend the creepyness of them though. That part was not needed.
Hey, I like all the different athlete trainers in gen 5. To see them all, you had to visit the stadiums at different times to catch their practices. It’s a lot like finding certain Pokémon only at night or the morning. But they serve as a fun little Easter egg that just made Unova feel so much more alive. Like Anville Town, you can miss them entirely, but that’s what makes them feel like a reward for exploration. And they did take effort to make. They aren’t just adding a bat to the youngster. They made different ones to reflect a bunch of sports in America. Seeing an American football player in the game was pretty neat, imo.
It may just be me, but when I played through ultra sun, I actively avoided at least one of every trainer class so I can always see their unique models and animations.
when i was a kid, i found the gen 3 birdkeeper trainers attractive and i pretended a certain birdkeeper on the road to fortree was my boyfriend. he spoke real sweetly so i made him my bf
The thing you need to realise is that certain classes are actually mistranslations of their japanese names or are alterations of current classes. what we know as the burglar is known in Japan as a "Post-fire Burglar" as over there, Break-ins and robberies more commonly happen immediately after arson, after the building is abandoned. The reason the bug maniac and bug catcher exists is the same reason for the veteran and ace/cooltrainer to exist. it acknowleges the older fanbase (as pokemon was based on Tajiri's love for entomology and bug collecting) Surfers weren't introduced until Alola (Despite water routes being introduced forever ago) because Hawaii puts a big emphasis on surfing as a rite of passage. The bandit is specifically based on a criminal outlaw from a western movie, including the rough quality of life, living and camping in the middle of nowhere. Before you complain that some classes reuse older concepts (Like bug maniacs, bandits, veterans etc) you have to understand what they are referring to by looking at the english translation of their names from other regions.
The only pokemon trainer class I have a problem with is the "Gym trainer" from Galar. all gym's use this as the class for the challenge despite all the types used having pre-existing classes. below is the list of those classes Grass: Gardener, Aroma Lady Water: Swimmer (Male and female), Swimmers (One male, one female), Swimmer girls (Two female) Fire: Firebreather Ghost: Hex maniac, medium Fighting: Black belt, crush girl, battle girl Fairy: Fairytale girl, mysterious sisters (The fact that they didn't use the fairytale girls in Galar when the british isles are known for their rich folklore and mythology is disappointing) ice: Snowboarder, skier rock: Ruin Maniac Dragon: Dragon tamer
Since bug catching is a stereotype for hobbies of young japanese kids, especially boys, and is the origin story of pokemon, I guess you could argue that Bug Maniacs symbolize those adults that never let go of their childhood obsessions. Which is kinda ironic, considering how many adults still play pokemon, albeit less frequently. Anyways, best trainer is that one dude with 6 magicarps in every game. I admire the resolve and await the day they show up with 6 gyarados (or however you spell the english name).
After you said, "Delibird," my husband laughed and was a like, "A what?" I said, "Have you really not heard anyone said it like that? He says it like that because that it 'Delibird' the packages."
I like bug catchers simply because I play as bug gym leader on sword and shield. Their designs are so cool and need to be appreciated much more especially the gen V range. Love the pidgey hole line too
Weird thing is with the jogger time restriction it is such a good detail of them only being active in the morning. A time span where most people will be jogging. It's low key smart and I like it haha
I do like the Hikers as they have been in every Mainline Pokémon game in one form or another and their Pokémon type specially has been very consistent using Rock, ground, fighting and Steel type Pokémon with the Exception of Hiker David who uses a Magmar. I also like that their look hadn’t changed much from gen 1 - 6 keeping their big but also gentle look
When you brought up the dancers my first thought was if I was a dancer in the pokemon universe I'd use a Ludicolo, not only are they amazing dancers but their one of my favorites
For gen 1 I think that Juggler isn't bad, it's just a matter of it not nailing what it is supposed to be. But in the other hand, Tamers are pretty lame, and there's a reason why they were dropped so hard. Not to mention the Engineer and Gambler classes which are so forgetable because they just exist next to Vermillion.
@@jpcsdutra I think you're confusing Rockers with Guitarists. Rockers are the guys with cables who only appeared in Kanto-centric games. The only time a Rocker has ever used a Normal type was in Stadium and it was... Porygon and Kangaskhan.
I'm surprised you remembered Joggers, who there are multiple of, but not Idol, of which there's only one and she only appears in Pokemon Centers (or Jubilife TV in non-Platinum Sinnoh games, which makes it even more likelythat you'll miss her). Though I guess Idol is a more unique concept than a Jogger, so... they're still the worst. :P
The region-specific trainer classes are pretty niche so it makes sense that they would be in their perspective games, however, you can't overlook the Ace and Veteran trainers, because they are the best of the best (relatively speaking) so if you're facing them, it means you're far into the game.
I'll be honest I rarely follow Lockstin because I don't have time, but if he's doing a series or something then he doesn't have to worry cause I said everything about it in this one video...
Just thought of this with you mentioning how ace trainers sometimes have starters, how is this the case? From what we know every trainer is given a starter, so are we to assume you, your rival and a couple of other trainers are the only ones who like them? Suggesting starters are the least liked pokemon in the pokeworld as most people dump them? Or should we consider that different places give different starters, meaning these ace trainers are all from your home town too? So many questions from one little thought...
You're kind of missing the point with the gen 1 jugglers. The are stereotypical frauds, and they use psychic types to hold up their balls. They also have an... interesting... name in the Japanese version of gen 1. I do agree that using round Pokémon is better.
Channelers and Mediums are not really the same thing tho. The former are more akin to shrine priestesses and Mediums are more regarded as "everyday" older women with spiritual affinities.
The joggers I remember not learning about until accidentally running past one when playing my DS on vacation where timezone was different than I was used to.. and it was obviously disappointing since I was already like a gym and a half stronger than I was meant to be for that area.. honestly the time sensitive trainers should scale just in case, would be cool to go to an early route and still have a random dude that is a challenge because you weren't awake at the right time until a later date The Unova sports trainers.. god I remember not even knowing some could be battled since.. sometimes the areas were closed.. or only 1 of the trainers in the BIG STADIUM was a battler and so accidentally skipped them since.. large empty area made up most of it xD I never thought of PLA as part of gen 8 until now.. so gen 8 really has a variety eh? A more standard game that finally actually focused on the gym stuff and then a game that diverged and gave us some open world gameplay..
I actually did encounter the Jogger class as for whatever reason as a kid I set my clock in Silver to really late so I ended encountering joggers while I was playing in the afternoon.
Ehhh... the nobility was less of a trainer class and more like a gimmick inside the Battle Chateau. It was supposed to show other people participating there. Which is why you would get people like gym leaders saying how they were nobility too. Great video tough!
Yeah it's not a trainer class, it's like 12. That's the problem. Furthermore it sort of cheapens the actual cream of the crop like the Gym Leaders if they can have the same rank as a random Maid, so maybe only give those titles to characters we already know?
Missed opportunity for a joke at the beginning. “Maybe you’re a Ruin Maniac who likes ground types. Or maybe you’re a Ruin Maniac who likes… Steel types? Who designed this repeat class?”
One of the coolest classes to me is PKMN/Pokemon Trainer class that Red has. After all of his accomplishments, he isn't described as Champion Red, but just a simple pokemon trainer. Just like you were when you began your journey.
I thought that the sky trainer class was pretty cool. I like how they only use flying types, or pokemon with levitate. It made pokemon battles more interesting.
I never knew the Tourist class hinted towards new regions like that, I’m about to go through Sword and Shield again looking for maybe any extra insight into Scarlet and Violet
Nah the worst gen 4 one was the ninja kids. Like I am trying to blindly navigate a route here because of my blatant refusal to try and read Uknown script. I don't need to be jumped more than I already am.
What irks me about the Bug Maniacs, of Gen 3 in particular, is how in Ruby & Sapphire? One of them is named Brandon. I forget readily if you can rematch him or not, but I think so,... But he was arguably the most annoying one simply because he shared my name. Though I feel like his dialogue wasn't up to par either. At least once Emerald came out, there wasa new Bug Maniac around; as well as Pyramid King Brandon! Who was even awesome in the anime too
I personally don't consider the nobility titles as true trainer classes. The whole point of the chateau is to work your way up the ranks to get a new title and the titles are only used in the chateau. All the gym leaders, elite four, and champion all have chateau titles, but they don't use them outside of the chateau.
still trying to figure out how youngsters and pre-schoolers are allowed to have pokemon if the main character has to wait until at least 10 to start a journey
you have to be a certain age to have a journey (like the pokemon league) you DON'T have to be that old to own pokemon. The pokemon world is mostly safe, so parents feel like it's okay for their kids to have a pokemon or two and go out to play by themselves. (This is sorta also the case in Japan, where kids as young as three or four can be sent on errands by themselves. The crime rates are typically very low though I seriously question this in pokemon where we have terrorists and criminal gangs bombing lakes and in Kalos DESTROYING A TOWN)
@@emperorcubone Oh. Lol. That's fine. I wouldn't have minded, if they were better handled. So long as they don't talk about how much they like shorts. XD
We all know that if this was the coolest trainer class then the cool trainer would've easily won
Is naming the class after the attribute it’s being judged by cheating? Yes. Are they still the coolest? Yes.
Honestly, the only Cool/Ace Trainers that don't look good are the Gen 1 ones, but is that even fair considering they were the first games? Of course the art wouldn't be very good.
Oh, and Let's Go Aces are kinda meh too.
Nah the hikers
I see you everywhere. I *love* cradily!
Facts he has so much drip and so many hos definition of a gigachad
The point of the Bug Maniac is that they're Bug Catchers who never grew out of their bug catching phase, so there is some differentiation. Sure they didn't have to make this class considering their team structure isn't always stronger, but it does expand on the world of trainer classes in a unique way.
My thoughts exactly.
I always thought that Bug Maniacs were something similar to Collectors, Super Nerds or Poke Maniacs, but fixated on bugs. Like those 3, they also feel creepy and possibly threatening towards a kid protagonist.
I love bikers, specially the "kanto's bikers", they use "pollution Pokémon" and I love it. It is nice to see someone bad that doesn't belong to an evil team.
Yeah things like the Roughnecks are always fun, especially when they turn out to be pretty sweet.
My favorite is Charles, but I also liked the Biker Gauntlet in the Sevii Islands. Dang, I miss sevii...
@@nellewoodruff6337 I have a vendetta against Charles because he singlehandedly ends soloruns lmao. He’s super cool though, my vendetta’s just a joke
@@AstaryuuGaming That's funny. As a kid I used to fear him because he'd cause the double battle faint glitch and I didn't know how to get out of it so I'd have to restart without having saved in a while.
@@nellewoodruff6337 The double battle faint glitch? I forgot about that. Brings back memories. Like when I got it in an important battle, and that was when I figured out how to get out of it.
15:05 To my understanding, Macro Cosmos is the conglomerate organization that in one way or another manages a great deal of the businesses in the Galar region. This includes managing/running the Pokemon League, hence why league staffers look the same as Macro Cosmos employees, they are themselves technically Macro Cosmos employees too. They sort of joke about this in the series of elevator battles where you face off against a bunch of Macro Cosmos employees who will specify the various subdivisions of Macro Cosmos that they work in. If you do the optional Poke Jobs stuff you also learn a bit more about the various divisions.
Yeah the whole point it that chairman rose basically is a nice person, just misguided in his use of capitalism. I’m not critiquing capitalism either, just point out that the macro cosmos corporation is literally every company imaginable.
"So they don't get pidgey-holed" is a wonderful line.
Lol, I always thought most of the Joggers trainers were NPC that we can’t battle. No wonder I didn’t fight many of them. XD And I’m glad the developers made a trainer class that acknowledges the older demographic. Thanks for a great and unique video, Emperor Cubone. Props for the shout out to the Doctor trainers, though it is odd that we have to beat them before they actually heal our Pokemon. XD
Yeah the doctors are a little weird in that way, but I always love to strategically use them in the Black Tower/White Treehollow.
@@emperorcubone I ran across the joggers myself cause for some reason as a kid I set the in-game clock for REALLY late even though it was daytime so as a result I ended up seeing joggers while playing in the afternoon and as such had no idea they were rare.
Honestly ace trainers are the best. The gen 4 ace trainer double battles were the bane of my existence. And the worst part is that they look cool during it.
They look far too fabulous to ever get mad at them when they destroy you...
The two infamous ace trainers right before Veilstone City
@@mudtube243 I almost whited out at the double battle before Pastoria
Juggler: I constantly switch out my Pokémon in battle!
Trainers: *Amazing, every word of what you just said...was wrong*
I just love listening to the Lumiose City music, gives me warm memories of getting lost in that maze of a city.
To be fair, Jugglers are supposed to have a 1 in 4 chance to switch out their Pokémon every turn, but their teams tend to be so weak that they never get to flex that gimmick.
Bring back Jugglers and give them mons with Baton Pass, Volt Switch etc.
Sky trainers were unique, I wish Sky Battles could make a return someday
Yeah someone else said they're the worst but I disagree; they had a whole gimmick based around them, but also easy to avoid so they're pretty interesting.
@@emperorcubone The reason Sky Trainers are hated is because they are to blame for the lack luster flying animations many Pokémon have been stuck with since Gen 6 despite Sky Battles never returning.
If they come back, I hope more Pokémon can join them, like Garchomp and Heracross, since they are able to fly.
Sky Battles are just regular battles with a weird banlist.
I didnt battle a single one of them because I didnt have a flying pokemon for my X playthrough
One of my favourite classes is the Interviewer Class. I like double battle specific classes and that it is made from two individual separate trainer classes. I like the mechanic around the interview itself, and like that they are roaming in some games. (Also they give decent cash rewards 🤑)
That's one I always look forward to facing as well! I keep checking the tv's to see when my interview comes on!
Gaby and the other guy in Emerald
Imagine having the option to discover secret bandit hideouts in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet and being able to sneak around and ambush them to gain the upper hand in battles similar to Skyrim.
It's obvious that Supreme Leader is the best Trainer class. But GameFreak won't include it in the games because they're afraid of my unlimited power
The Biden trainer class will top you.
What if the Juggler trainer used 'Mons that had moves like U-Turn and Volt Switch and other moves that utilized switching with other 'Mons. That would make it a little challenging as you would have to change your attacks up and adapt to whatever 'Mon switches in next, mostly because the switch is usually a random 'Mon.
That’s a very good idea
Good idea, but also, what if we never saw them again? That'd be fine...
@@emperorcubone sure, but I would rather try and fix before I completely rule it out.
What a good idea. I love gimmicks that aren't so obvious.
It'd be fun if the added a place called something like Bandit's Valley where every time you passed through you'd have to face tougher and tougher bandits until you eventually face off against the Bandit Chief and get them to stop terrorizing the valley.
Sounds very Fire Emblemy
Could be a gen 9 dark type gym.
Are you referencing the Yiga clan?
Sounds exactly like the Elite Four
sounds like the Nugget Bridge
Pimanrules had a video about this topic, hosted a tournament between each trainer in Gen 1 and ranked them all using chess style Elo score. Highly recommend, it was extremely interesting.
Wow, that sounds like a lot of work, but also like there are seven more Gens to cover!
I remember Jugglers ranking quite high
@@emperorcubone There are two versions, the original and the redo where everyone was set to level 50.
@@skotiaH2O if I remember correctly, it was just one juggler that ranked high simply because he only had one Pokémon, so he couldn’t waste his turns switching.
I quite like the trainer classes which show people with the type of pokemon they would use in their jobs. So, sailors with water and fighting types, nurses and doctors with Audino and Chansey, engineers with electric and steel types, etc. It really helps show how people and pokemon work together in that world.
I feel like that mostly happens in reverse, with them saying, "We need a Ground user!" so they make Ruin Maniacs. But it is still a nice touch that they're able to match them up convincingly!
Personally I think kimono girls were the best for gen 2 specifically in HGSS as they played a part in the story
5:30 that was a creative way to plug ur channel gotta respect it
You forgot to mention that Sightseer Marcus in Seafolk Village is the only normal NPC to use a Shiny Pokémon.
I caught that "Pidgeyholed". Love it when I hear terms you don't often think about warped into a different world!
I wish the Channeler trainer class wasn't restricted to Kanto, as I think they could have worked in Johto and maybe Alola.
3:35 You should have mentioned that ORAS' Aces can make use of Surf too. That gives the World a more coherent feel in my book. They are also among the few that add surprising Pokémon to their teams when rebattled several times. (If you Shiny Hunt on the Water that will happen to you more times than you care to admit, trust me.)
4:27 The Hex Maniacs (or just Witch) are a very odd trainer class in hindsight. Why? Look at the Gen 3 Spritework for the class. Now look at Mismagius. These similarities are too plentiful to be a mere coincidence.
5:03 I don't like the Pokéfans. Or more concisely I dislike the male Pokéfans. Why? More often than not have a Child with them. In the "Battle Sphere" and nowhere else? Where is their Child in the "actual world"? It can't be too much to ask to just set up a Child Sprite next to them... (They could even nicely pair them up with Poké Kid next to them: "You may have beaten Daddy, but I am stronger than him!")
6:50 By the way: The Pokémon Ranger Movie can be watched for free on Pokémon TV. (At least for the rest of the month.)
8:35 Probably because they look almost exactly the same like last Gens "Experts" too.
9:34 According to that logic all Amateur Sports Leagues in _our_ World are redundant too.
9:48 Just one City? That's just false. Okay, I know that the Village Bridge has seen a fair share of Floodings but I didn't thought that its existence has been washed away that bad...
11:58 That's an accurate description for Nobility as a whole though.
9:34 I mean, aren't they?
I didn't even know the jogger can only appear during specific times :D
I think that makes him special and not one of the worst :)
They are there all the time, but they will only battle you the morning when you'll never be playing. By contrast the cops will only battle you at night, which you are far more likely to run across...
@@emperorcubone Ah, thank you for clarifying. Well then they are just a worse version of the guards :D
6:08 I bet the Bug Maniacs are supposed to be the weaker versions of the Bug Catchers, who are just hobbyists. To become a Bug Maniac would mean to give in to an obsession, losing something of your identity and battling skill in it.
I know he complained about the copy-pasted trainer classes in gen 6, but the ones at 11:48 are really cute.
They had cool pokemon in the various cafés and restaurants.
Well yeah, they look great, and usually having Audino's is great for experience, I just wish they hadn't been dragged down by all the others...
1:14 ok I loved my encounter with the Magicarp only guy in Pokemon White. Everyone else had Basculin or other generations fish but not this guy the rare 6 Magicarp team to rival the 5 metapod and one cacoona team for bug trainers. 9:27 hey don't Dis my favorite post game training partners. They help level my Pokemon to level 70 and higher.
The jugglers were originally Gypsies, which for obvious reasons was changed in the english dub. They used psychic types due to the stereotype of gypsies being future sighters and palm readers
Even the Japanese thought it was offensive, as the name was only used in Gens 1 and 2.
In Japanese, Juggled is “Gypsy” and obviously that’s mostly regarded as a slur now so that’s why they aren’t in the game anymore.
Awesome. Trainer classes are an under talked about part of the game.
Right? It's fun to delve into those more obscure topics.
It is a very underappreciated detail, and I think it helps the world feel more alive. You don't feel like you're battling the same five people over and over.
12:24 where are those images from? I can never find them whenever I search for them!
I dunno, I just Googled 'em a few years back and had them ever since...
I think that the Cool/Ace trainers are meant to be other trainers that are also doing the League Challenge and may even have collected several badges.
I like the fact that they change things up and not keep doing the same things over and over.
Emperor Cubone: That's blasphemy! We must use the same classes over and over.
I think the point was more, "If we're going to make a bunch of new trainer classes, can we please make them different from the ones we already have?"
The dancer from gen 5 got promoted to Lucio in Overwatch that's why! xD
12:48 Why is the Aegean coast of Turkey is included in a Greek region?
Maybe it's like Kanto and Johto?
@@emperorcubone I hope
It’s clearly explained that the Macro Cosmos trainer class is literally a Black Shades club within the League Staff.
The sports youth class is just putting a bucket on a zombie and calling it a bucket zombie
Very concise way of stating the problem...
Buckethead Zombie from PvZ: _angry noises_
Now that you mention it... Bandit class can be used as the best roadblock in the scarlet and violet games!!! Imagine having to choose between two paths, one to complete the current gym and the other to advanace with the story and there will always be one bandit ambushing in the latter. (Bandits get increasingly harder to fight as the story progresses)
If you defeat them they would let you proceed on first (road block due to lack of badges can come later) but if you are defeted you lose money and some items and will be sent to the current city's pokemon centre.
Right? That would fit into the open world perfectly both for story and gameplay reasons...
The jugglers in gen 1 were originally called gypsies. Thats why they have psychics, because they were levitating the balls nit juggling
Anyone else bothered by how his tone changes when he does his outro? I get that the majority of his viewers may be kids since he's a pokemon channel and he's been doing outros like that for years, but it just makes my hairs stand up every time I reach the end of his videos
I am. It's a bit jarring.
12:40
"A power spot (パワースポット or pawa-supotto in Japanese) is an area where spiritual visitors can take in the energy of the Earth and experience healing, generate good luck, or rejuvenate a tired body and soul"
It's a tourism term, nothing to do with max raid dens.
Um... A happy coincidence, then?
The Cooltrainer/Ace Trainer Class has always been an all-time favorite for me 😎💪
Liking the vid so far!
How about a video on the best trainer of each class on a game or across them all. For example the best birdkeeper trainer or the best ace trainer etc
Well I'll be honest I would have no idea where to start on that; I guess I'd first have to track down every single trainer of one type across 8 gens. That sounds like a project for later...
Bug Catcher are kids, Bug Maniacs are adults. So, there is a reason why they exist. Further more, the Bug Maniacs, as adults, have a job of studying Bug Type Pokemon. So, they are researchers as such. Bug Catchers are just kids playing around catching insects like many kids do when they are young.
I cannot defend the creepyness of them though. That part was not needed.
Hey, I like all the different athlete trainers in gen 5. To see them all, you had to visit the stadiums at different times to catch their practices. It’s a lot like finding certain Pokémon only at night or the morning. But they serve as a fun little Easter egg that just made Unova feel so much more alive. Like Anville Town, you can miss them entirely, but that’s what makes them feel like a reward for exploration. And they did take effort to make. They aren’t just adding a bat to the youngster. They made different ones to reflect a bunch of sports in America. Seeing an American football player in the game was pretty neat, imo.
Exactly! I agree completely. I felt it added an element of world building and made sense for a New York City-based region.
It may just be me, but when I played through ultra sun, I actively avoided at least one of every trainer class so I can always see their unique models and animations.
when i was a kid, i found the gen 3 birdkeeper trainers attractive and i pretended a certain birdkeeper on the road to fortree was my boyfriend. he spoke real sweetly so i made him my bf
This is so cute haha
The thing you need to realise is that certain classes are actually mistranslations of their japanese names or are alterations of current classes.
what we know as the burglar is known in Japan as a "Post-fire Burglar" as over there, Break-ins and robberies more commonly happen immediately after arson, after the building is abandoned.
The reason the bug maniac and bug catcher exists is the same reason for the veteran and ace/cooltrainer to exist. it acknowleges the older fanbase (as pokemon was based on Tajiri's love for entomology and bug collecting)
Surfers weren't introduced until Alola (Despite water routes being introduced forever ago) because Hawaii puts a big emphasis on surfing as a rite of passage.
The bandit is specifically based on a criminal outlaw from a western movie, including the rough quality of life, living and camping in the middle of nowhere.
Before you complain that some classes reuse older concepts (Like bug maniacs, bandits, veterans etc) you have to understand what they are referring to by looking at the english translation of their names from other regions.
This. Pokemon is a Japanese franchise.
The only pokemon trainer class I have a problem with is the "Gym trainer" from Galar. all gym's use this as the class for the challenge despite all the types used having pre-existing classes. below is the list of those classes
Grass: Gardener, Aroma Lady
Water: Swimmer (Male and female), Swimmers (One male, one female), Swimmer girls (Two female)
Fire: Firebreather
Ghost: Hex maniac, medium
Fighting: Black belt, crush girl, battle girl
Fairy: Fairytale girl, mysterious sisters (The fact that they didn't use the fairytale girls in Galar when the british isles are known for their rich folklore and mythology is disappointing)
ice: Snowboarder, skier
rock: Ruin Maniac
Dragon: Dragon tamer
Great video bro keep it up
Since bug catching is a stereotype for hobbies of young japanese kids, especially boys, and is the origin story of pokemon, I guess you could argue that Bug Maniacs symbolize those adults that never let go of their childhood obsessions. Which is kinda ironic, considering how many adults still play pokemon, albeit less frequently.
Anyways, best trainer is that one dude with 6 magicarps in every game. I admire the resolve and await the day they show up with 6 gyarados (or however you spell the english name).
After you said, "Delibird," my husband laughed and was a like, "A what?" I said, "Have you really not heard anyone said it like that? He says it like that because that it 'Delibird' the packages."
Thank you! People act like I'm stupid but I've clearly thought about it. It makes more sense than working at a deli...
@@emperorcubone What's a "deli", anyway?
@@robertlupa8273 A sandwich shop.
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Wasn't the juggler originally called the gypsy? Which... I can see why they changed.
That could be the Japanese name I suppose.
I like bug catchers simply because I play as bug gym leader on sword and shield.
Their designs are so cool and need to be appreciated much more especially the gen V range.
Love the pidgey hole line too
Ah, finally made it to 100K.
Nice to see. Been here a while.
Weird thing is with the jogger time restriction it is such a good detail of them only being active in the morning. A time span where most people will be jogging. It's low key smart and I like it haha
I do like the Hikers as they have been in every Mainline Pokémon game in one form or another and their Pokémon type specially has been very consistent using Rock, ground, fighting and Steel type Pokémon with the Exception of Hiker David who uses a Magmar. I also like that their look hadn’t changed much from gen 1 - 6 keeping their big but also gentle look
When you brought up the dancers my first thought was if I was a dancer in the pokemon universe I'd use a Ludicolo, not only are they amazing dancers but their one of my favorites
Super excited!! Your videos are always amazing
For gen 1 I think that Juggler isn't bad, it's just a matter of it not nailing what it is supposed to be. But in the other hand, Tamers are pretty lame, and there's a reason why they were dropped so hard. Not to mention the Engineer and Gambler classes which are so forgetable because they just exist next to Vermillion.
Rockers would be even more forgettable if they didn't look so cool in FRLG.
@@robertlupa8273 i mean, its true, but its a good class for normal and electric types that would pop up eventually
@@jpcsdutra I think you're confusing Rockers with Guitarists. Rockers are the guys with cables who only appeared in Kanto-centric games. The only time a Rocker has ever used a Normal type was in Stadium and it was... Porygon and Kangaskhan.
@@robertlupa8273 you are absolutely right, I completely forgot they existed
I'm surprised you remembered Joggers, who there are multiple of, but not Idol, of which there's only one and she only appears in Pokemon Centers (or Jubilife TV in non-Platinum Sinnoh games, which makes it even more likelythat you'll miss her). Though I guess Idol is a more unique concept than a Jogger, so... they're still the worst. :P
This summarizes all my thoughts on the issue...
I've actually always used the 6 magikarps trainer for decent early game exp XD
Maybe on like the one underleveled thing on the team, or as a way to help your Metapod or something, but Magikarp are always so low on experience...
@@emperorcubone Hey, 6 Speed EVs are nothing to sneeze at, even if the EXP itself is rather low.
The region-specific trainer classes are pretty niche so it makes sense that they would be in their perspective games, however, you can't overlook the Ace and Veteran trainers, because they are the best of the best (relatively speaking) so if you're facing them, it means you're far into the game.
I'd like to mention that his trainer class is "Pokemon" and his name is "Professor Sycamore"
Oh, good catch! He's actually a Ditto...
Next video: top best and worse battle frontier opponents
9:57 Sorta like the weather
Might be “coincidental” but Lockstin & Gnoggin is making the same type of vids too
I'll be honest I rarely follow Lockstin because I don't have time, but if he's doing a series or something then he doesn't have to worry cause I said everything about it in this one video...
Legit did not know about the Joggers until this video.
Yeah, they're super low key...
Just thought of this with you mentioning how ace trainers sometimes have starters, how is this the case?
From what we know every trainer is given a starter, so are we to assume you, your rival and a couple of other trainers are the only ones who like them? Suggesting starters are the least liked pokemon in the pokeworld as most people dump them? Or should we consider that different places give different starters, meaning these ace trainers are all from your home town too?
So many questions from one little thought...
Didn't the Veteran class of trainers first appear in gen 3 but were called Expert Trainers instead?
Some trainer classes are really redundant. Just give more variations of pokemon rangers and we'll be fine.👍
I'd be down for that.
You're kind of missing the point with the gen 1 jugglers. The are stereotypical frauds, and they use psychic types to hold up their balls. They also have an... interesting... name in the Japanese version of gen 1.
I do agree that using round Pokémon is better.
You should start a top 6 list of problems you have with the Paldea Region.
I like how ruin maniacs changed from ground-rock type to rock-steel type over the time. Thanks to Steven
Least favorite: trainers that have four to six magikarp.
Woah Pokémon Ranger was buried deep into my subconscious 😭
Channelers and Mediums are not really the same thing tho.
The former are more akin to shrine priestesses and Mediums are more regarded as "everyday" older women with spiritual affinities.
Love trainer class talk
The joggers I remember not learning about until accidentally running past one when playing my DS on vacation where timezone was different than I was used to.. and it was obviously disappointing since I was already like a gym and a half stronger than I was meant to be for that area.. honestly the time sensitive trainers should scale just in case, would be cool to go to an early route and still have a random dude that is a challenge because you weren't awake at the right time until a later date
The Unova sports trainers.. god I remember not even knowing some could be battled since.. sometimes the areas were closed.. or only 1 of the trainers in the BIG STADIUM was a battler and so accidentally skipped them since.. large empty area made up most of it xD
I never thought of PLA as part of gen 8 until now.. so gen 8 really has a variety eh? A more standard game that finally actually focused on the gym stuff and then a game that diverged and gave us some open world gameplay..
Surprised Hex Maniac didn’t win for Gen 6 tbh
I actually did encounter the Jogger class as for whatever reason as a kid I set my clock in Silver to really late so I ended encountering joggers while I was playing in the afternoon.
Ehhh... the nobility was less of a trainer class and more like a gimmick inside the Battle Chateau. It was supposed to show other people participating there. Which is why you would get people like gym leaders saying how they were nobility too. Great video tough!
Yeah it's not a trainer class, it's like 12. That's the problem. Furthermore it sort of cheapens the actual cream of the crop like the Gym Leaders if they can have the same rank as a random Maid, so maybe only give those titles to characters we already know?
@@emperorcubone Why do random maids have those titles, anyway? It's kinda weird how such a servant can be a noble too.
"Pidgey-holed" - hehe! ☺️😂
One for the fans!
Missed opportunity for a joke at the beginning. “Maybe you’re a Ruin Maniac who likes ground types. Or maybe you’re a Ruin Maniac who likes… Steel types? Who designed this repeat class?”
Glad to see my trainer class being represented well😌
What can I say? You earned it!
One of the coolest classes to me is PKMN/Pokemon Trainer class that Red has. After all of his accomplishments, he isn't described as Champion Red, but just a simple pokemon trainer. Just like you were when you began your journey.
He's quite humble, it makes me speechless...
I thought that the sky trainer class was pretty cool. I like how they only use flying types, or pokemon with levitate. It made pokemon battles more interesting.
I never knew the Tourist class hinted towards new regions like that, I’m about to go through Sword and Shield again looking for maybe any extra insight into Scarlet and Violet
Nah the worst gen 4 one was the ninja kids.
Like I am trying to blindly navigate a route here because of my blatant refusal to try and read Uknown script. I don't need to be jumped more than I already am.
I doubt the mimikyu shirt was intentional, I still love it though
Fun fact: The juggler class's original Japanese name was an ethnic slur. Said slur could be related to their use of psychic types.
Shout out to the burglar class from Gen 2, they were always funny when they were like "Gimme your Pokemon"
What irks me about the Bug Maniacs, of Gen 3 in particular, is how in Ruby & Sapphire? One of them is named Brandon. I forget readily if you can rematch him or not, but I think so,... But he was arguably the most annoying one simply because he shared my name. Though I feel like his dialogue wasn't up to par either. At least once Emerald came out, there wasa new Bug Maniac around; as well as Pyramid King Brandon! Who was even awesome in the anime too
I personally don't consider the nobility titles as true trainer classes. The whole point of the chateau is to work your way up the ranks to get a new title and the titles are only used in the chateau. All the gym leaders, elite four, and champion all have chateau titles, but they don't use them outside of the chateau.
14:19 "pidgey-holed" lmao
still trying to figure out how youngsters and pre-schoolers are allowed to have pokemon if the main character has to wait until at least 10 to start a journey
My theory is that they've all got rich parents...
They're probably borrowing their Pokémon from their parents or older siblings.
you have to be a certain age to have a journey (like the pokemon league) you DON'T have to be that old to own pokemon. The pokemon world is mostly safe, so parents feel like it's okay for their kids to have a pokemon or two and go out to play by themselves. (This is sorta also the case in Japan, where kids as young as three or four can be sent on errands by themselves. The crime rates are typically very low though I seriously question this in pokemon where we have terrorists and criminal gangs bombing lakes and in Kalos DESTROYING A TOWN)
Actually the best trainer is
Emporer cubone
Aw, so true. Thank you!!
I accurately predicted what you were about to say. Am I a Psychic or what? :)
@@robertlupa8273 😅😅
When I hear ranger I mainly think of gen 5 and the mountain of berries you rack up from defeating them.
It'd be cool if when the Bandit class beats you, it takes more money than usual
That would imply I ever lose a Pokemon battle... But yes, that would be cool actually...
Nice video. I like the debate.
Just one thing. The "s" in Viscount is silent. So it's pronounced "Vi-count"
Yeah, I kinda figured, but then I thought they don't deserve the respect of saying it properly...
@@emperorcubone Oh. Lol. That's fine.
I wouldn't have minded, if they were better handled.
So long as they don't talk about how much they like shorts. XD
The bandit was in the cinnabar mansion in red and blue
As I said, those were the "burglars" which is a different class.
@@emperorcubone ohhhhh ok ,sorry I didn’t catch that