I officially nominate you for the best use of five minutes anywhere on UA-cam. First, your underlying prune to was well researched and engineered and of real consequence to people. Second, you gave full account of installation, all of the parts used, their sources, and answered all of the questions. Third, you edited for terrific, brief clarity. Thank you.
'scuse ME, but of what value is a reverse oriented blower fan? This system will be a LOT more efficient in moving air if you stick with the same directional blower vanes. There is even a sticker on the housing indicating air direction flow and the vanes SHOULD be curved in the same direction as the replaced blower. Major screw up here. WHo sold you this replacement blower?
@@Mike--K You are correct. I did notice the impellor isn't listed on the comments where the info is listed by Mr Grey House Studio. I'd like to know where he purchased it.
Love this. I built something very similar using an old 1-stage 1hp Grizzly and Super Dust Deputy that has worked great for about 15 years-even installed a larger impeller which made a big difference. Mine is mounted on a mobile stand but too cumbersome to move-the wall mount system used here is better. Having a huge outflow filter surface area is key to maintain the air flow. A way to clean the filter to keep impedance low would be a big improvement, but the cyclone is so efficient (and I’m so lazy?) that I’ve only cleaned it a few times.
Good Video i liked the impeller upgrade And the whole system you created thanks for all the details I’m a retired Woodworker and between shops/ homes at this point in life due to a Traumatic Brain Injury that forced me into early retirement i. Think I’m going to use a Cardboard Sono Tube as my barrel so i can poprivet a viewing Acylic window to monitor dust levels in a not so “?high tech” way you did ! Truthfully. I didnt knows that system existed so thanks I’m 56 years old and I’m learning everyday from you young guys !
Let me know if the sono tube works. I thought about that but was afraid t might crush under the vacuum. Getting dust collection in place for all my machines made such a difference!
Once you have removed the impeller you the can remove the 4 bolts that hold the shroud and then you can turn the shroud so that the original motor mount can be used to anchor the unit to the wall. Just did that today. Waiting for the dust deputy and filter. Great build. Thanks for sharing. Hank
Thanks for pointing that out Hank. That is one of the only things I might go back and change about the build. I didn't realize I needed to/could rotate the motor with the four bolts behind the impeller until it was too late. I borrowed the puller tool to remove the impeller and had already returned the tool once I made the realization. Hope your dust collector build goes smoothly.
Thank you for this. I just used some of these steps to mount my filter and customize the filter top and blower intake to use 6" duct collars. The use of rivets to attach to the blower was key to avoid interference with the fan.
the way you put this together is almost exactly what i had sketched out while researching on my own, but i hadn't seen anyone else build it this way. awesome!
Great video and thank you! I have been searching for ways to upgrade my HFDC more than what it is and I am thinking you hit the bulls eye man! Where did you get the 12 inch impeller? I didn’t see it listed...maybe i overlooked it?
Nice video, You inspired me to use my wind indicator I already had for sailing to measure CFM!!! I would suggest people start by making a simple manometer to read the static pressure. That would cost virtually nothing. It's so funny that Harbor Freight tools either become parts for really nice systems, or need a lot of mods to become good machines. A lot of these things would cost very little at the factory (like a better impeller), and would let them make a "Pro Line" of tools and make a lot more money.
Just did this impeller upgrade on my HF unit last week. Running only the blower housing with a 6" inlet was pushing 17 amps, and the breaker in the basement was humming. Like you, I also reached out to Oneida but they recommended a SDD (not XL), so I bought it. When I attach the SDD to the blower housing (no filter yet) amps drop to 13-ish. A 2hp 70% efficient motor should be drawing 16 amps under full load, so this tells me already the system isn't operating as efficiently as it should. As a result I believe the SDD, while rated for less than 3HP units, actually ends up significantly restricting flow, with only a 5" inlet port, at least in the case of the modified HF system. So, I ordered an XL to try that out, and whatever one ends up working the best I'll keep. The other will end up on ebay. As my first youtube video, I may document the experiment between the two SDD's for all those who may be interested.
@@willjung3691 I got it from tool center dot com (cyber woodworking depot llc). It was like $10 more than other options which at the time were unavailable. It may be available again through Rikon directly, but last I looked it was backordered.
@@willjung3691 I haven't ordered a filter yet. Maybe you are thinking of the author of this video? He doesn't seem to be answering anymore probably because this video is several years old.
I know this comment is 1 year ago but I just got my HF DC and I was thinking of upgrading to a SDD. Did you find out which one was best? I am thinking of going with the standard SDD instead of the XL since it uses less amps.
Brent, I can't thank you enough for making this video. You were kind enough to leave a comment to my post on the Lumberjocks forum as well as a link to this video. This is exactly the mod I am making to my HF DC for my shop this year. My build is still at the infancy stage. Only the HF DC and Powermatic 4" X 20' flex hose so far. Taking your valuable time to list links to the parts and price breakdown for this build in invaluable. Taking the comparative CFM reading before and after the mod was extremely helpful as well. This video was very well made showing all aspects of the mod from start to finish. I would say, of all the videos I've seen of this mod on UA-cam, your is by far the best. Thank you again!!!!
Thanks for the kind words! I read through a ton of forums about the impeller but had a hard time finding any results. I'm glad this video helps fill in some gaps. I'm excited to see more Harbor Freight Dust Collector builds like this.
"...the married couple." I love that clarification. Imagine if I'd watched this video without knowing you are legally bonded in holy wedlock. Excellent demonstration and your building techniques are solid. I'm using this idea.
I'd like to get an update on how this is working. Seems like all UA-cam channels that did something similar to this, ended up abandoning it, and upgrading to high dollar setups.
This is one of the simplest and most straightforward HF mods I've seen. Thanks for sharing. I'm sorry if I'm missing something obvious but where did you get the 12" replacement fan? Does it come with the HF dust collector?
@@75blackviking I was wondering the same thing and I found the replacement impeller for the 2hp dust collection system on the Rikon web page. Unfortunately, they are currently out of stock. Here's the info, for what its worth. P60-200-22 Impeller - Sturdy Metal Design with 7 Rear Facing Blades (Dia. 11-3/4”, Shaft Dia. 20mm, Height 3-1/4”, Shaft Hub Length 1-1/4”)
I have an HF unit I changed up too. The motor is really more like a 1hp. and not really efficient for 6in pipes.. (3hp good) you work with what you have I'm hooked up with cheaper 4in pipes and works OK. (actually very happy 6 years now) Sooo fellas, what is the part number for that tasty impeller, have to have one!! GOT IT .... Part 21 / P60-200-22 I do like your set up not too big not to small. I run the air out a hole in my garage, no filter to replace or clean. MDF board is the true test for these units. great set up !!! One more thing... try and use the least amount of flex hose as possible, it kills airspeed. You can add a small window to the bucket for dust monitoring too.
@GrayHouseStudio its been 6 years, how is your dust collector working? And was the cyclone too big for the 2HP dust collector since it is advertised 3HP dust collectors?
The Oneida Dust Deputy XL that you used is rated for dust collectors that have 3-5 horsepower. The HF has 2. Has this translated to any issues for you? Do you have anything more than very small amounts of fine dust getting to your last plastic bag?
Wow, dust sensor really $460. My dust collector is in another room and would love a sensor to tell me when full but can't justify that price. Great vid - thanks!
Ya, the sensor is one of my favorite dust collector features. I set it so it notifies me before the can gets so heavy it is hard to empty. Here is a link: www.oneida-air.com/dust-sentry-adjustable-bin-level-indicator
Excellent vid and so full of extras that many other vids don't include. To fully appreciate all that work it will be necessary for me to slow it down so I can properly digest it. Can this vid be slowed as I really don't want to do lengthy stop/start sessions?
That makes sense! We often struggle with making videos too long and trying to incorporate all the content. We will figure out a way to do a better job taking things a little slower in the future.
Hi, New subscriber! Outstanding video!Right to the point and easy to understand! I just bought a 4" Super Dust Deputy that will sit on top of a sealable 55 gallon steel drum.It has a "clamp" style ring that seals the top to the drum.I'm concerned about an air leak at the cover seal.You didn't mention sealing the barrel cover with anything.Did you use any type of rubber seal or something else? Thanks for a great (to the point) video! Tom
I had some leaking on the lid, good point. I put two layers of duck (not duct foil) tape on the barrel rim and that created a cheap gasket solution that sealed the lid.
Great video, love the concept. Unfortunately now (2019) it's almost impossible to get that impeller and total system cost is equal to or possibly greater to just buying a system. Surprisingly there's still hardly any reasonably priced / smaller dust collection options for small shops.
Thank you for this video. It was clear and precise so Thank You! I had an issue removing the impeller from my HF unit. Turns out it was rusted on the motor shaft. 2 days of PB penetrating oil and tapping into the collar with a custom puller tool and I was able to remove it. Looking forward to my new setup. Your video made it clear. How is the motor housing mounted to the top of your 2x4 wall bracket?
This is the best video on the subject yet. Two questions 1) I have the regular super dust deputy w 5" inlet and 6" outlets. Is it worth upping the impeller? 2) would the HF side cylinder that it comes with make performance better? Curious why you left it off.
Thanks! I would say it is definitely worth the upgrade. There is still an increase in CFM without increasing the 5" inlet. Plus, the impeller design is more efficient. I don't think the side cylinder would make performance better. It restricts the airflow compared to the 6" duct I used. Also, the 90 degree turn directs the air to the bottom of the filter so any particles the make it through the cyclone go straight into the bag instead of into the filter.
@@MrCarrizojim Rikon designed their impeller intentionally this way as reverse curve blades create greater static pressure using significantly less energy. Forward-facing blades will create greater air speed and less static pressure and the trade off isn’t worthwhile on a 115v motor of that size.
Awesome video! I will be replicating, but venting to the outside. Question -- How do you empty the drum? Naturally you pop the locking ring off, but do you have a mechanism raising and lowering the drum to the ground since the cyclone and motor and attached to the wall? How are you supporting the drum's weight when it's attached to the lid? Thanks!
I wondered what impellar you were using. There is some discussion on LumberJocks re: this Central Machinery Dust Collector with the Rikon impeller . Have you measured the amp draw with different gates open? I'll look into your videos to see your ducting. The DC from harbor Frieght has a @ 5 inch port. Good luck!
Ya, the Rikon impeller works great with the Harbor Freight Dust Collector. I haven't had a chance to take detailed measurements of the amp draw with different gates open. From what I can tell, the initial impeller ramp up when the motor is first turned on draws the most amps. I was able to change the stock 5 inch port to a 6 inch on the Harbor Freight DC to increase air flow.
I don't know how you are going to remove that barrel when it is full without a lot of problems, also I wish I knew which blower (exactly) and where you find upgraded impellers, other than that, great vid.
It would be nice to know where you picked up the bigger impeller??? It would also be interesting to see your finished system, and see if it's as good as in your first test. Other than that, great video.
Great video! So many out there but I love the way you show everything and make it easy to understand. What size pipe do you have coming into the Oneida dust deputy? Did you run 6" throughout? I wanted to stay around 4". I am on the opposite side of the garage which will be a challenge to figure out the piping.
I realize that this is an old video and I hope that you can answer this question. At 5:08 you show the air flow results, one thing that jumped out was that your ft/min is less than the optimal 4000ft/min, and that was just a short piece of duct and flex hose. Once you get the entire duct system installed, I'd guess that with the static pressure losses you will be significantly less than the 3838ft/min you displayed, which can cause wood chips to build up in your ducting and not move the really fine dust. So, I'm wondering if you measured the cfm at you machine that is furthest from the dust collector? Have you had any problems with the dust collection?
Great video with lots of detail, many thanks. I am trying to source a similar air filter over here in the UK and it would help if I could find some more details of the filter you used. Thanks!
Thanks for those specifications! I will see if I can find a listing for it over here in the UK. Failing that I will look for something of a similar size.
Only thing left to show us is the emptying of the 55 gallon barrel. No way to throw slack between drum and the cyclone. I believe I'll be mounting my barrel on a wheeled cart and use a drum liner. Wheel it close to where it's going to be emptied and remove the bag. Easy Peasy. Getting the barrel back together whether sliding or rolling is when you need your slack.
I wish I had the ceiling height to add a bit of flex between the barrel and the cyclone of the dust collector. I decided to use a jack on wheels under the barrel. It lets me lower he barrel about two inches and roll it out from under the cyclone.
@@GrayHouseStudio Cool beans. You should have included it in your presentation. Not all are dialed in on the small things. How come you didn't utilize the stock cyclone to hang your filter ??
Nice video which I just recently saw for the first time. I've seen several comments about the larger impeller drawing more amps and tripping their 15 amp breakers. That's not a worry for me as the breaker servicing the motor is 30 amps. My electrician tells me I should worry about the increase amperage draw causing dangerous heating to the 14 gauge wire leading to the motor. Have you had any troubles in this regard as I'm considering rewiring with 12 gauge wire?
I know this video was a while ago but curious it your filter was big enough to allow filtration and also air escape so that the small bag doesn’t blow off. The filter you used is smaller than others systems I’ve seen so curious if it provided enough airflow. Any changes you would make to the system if you could do it all over again? Great content. Thanks.
Did that and found nothing on the impeller. Good project though. Were you able to upgrade the wiring in the motor to 240V from the standard 120 it comes with? Often you can just change the wiring in the motor box which shows it wired both ways. Getting ready to put one in my expanded shop and always wondered why the impeller had so much room around it. A pump's efficiency is greatly determined by the impeller to housing clearance--the tighter the better. You found a quick solution it would seem. Were the shafts the same when installing the new one? Thanks. Take care. Doug
Where did you get your replacement impeller? How did you decide on that particular filter? Did you consult Wynn Environmental, the only source of sizing information I'm aware of?
I have the same unit, HF collector and Oneida cyclone attachment unit. Have you ever lubricated the motor? Also, if you have, how did you lube it? Do you also clean the vertical filter often? Good job!
That is a great question. I am actually horrible at maintenance. I usually just dust around and blow out the motor. It has been several years and I still haven't lubricated it.
This dust collection system seems pretty well-made. I like the smaller diameter of the filter for the fine dust. The question I have is what holds your dust deputy up when you change or empty the barrel? It doesn't seem like there's much support other than the tape holding it on to the upper pipe and motor.
+Mark Radmall I did end up screwing the pipe fitting on the motor to the Dust Deputy which holds it with the drum removed. Also, I came back and made a bracket to screw to the wall and stick to the dust deputy mid-way down the cone.
I put a little motorcycle jack under the drum of the dust collector. This makes it easy to roll the full drum around and lift it into place under the fixed lid. My ceiling wasn’t tall enough to put flex between the cyclone and the drum.
great video...how about a 3 year follow up? im getting ready to build this set up, ant regrets using 6" duct with the upgraded HL system? thank you for your time.
Is that the 2 hp dust collector? Looks like several components missing unless it’s just the 1 hp. Also you said 753 cfm and the 2 hp is rated at 1550 cfm. Maybe that rating from HF is bs. I have an old craftsman 1 hp and was looking at the 2 hp but this video makes me think I could just upgrade the 1 hp with impeller and 4” dust deputy vented outside and experience an improvement.
It is the "2hp" dust collector. When I was doing my research I found that high end dust collector companies post actual CFM (tested in actual use) and Harbor Freight doesn't advertise that number. That sounds like it would work if the shaft of the 1hp motor is the same size. The larger impeller is a little heavier so it take more amps to ramp up.
How easy it is to remove the drum when its full? Assuming the entire assembly is secured to your wood support, is it difficult to get the lid to disengage from the drum?
Great design. I am working on this upgrade to my HF DC right now, but can't decide if I should get the SDDXL or the regular SDD (do to Oneida's recommended sizing). Any input? Do you have a performance update?
+john Carter The dust collector is working as good as I could have ever hoped. I have filled up the 55 gallon barrel and the filter is still clean with nothing in the bag at the bottom of the filter. I am a fan of the SDDXL and like that it is compatible with 6" fittings/pipes on both sides. I haven't had a chance to work with the SDD to do a comparison but I'm not disappointed with the larger unit.
Great Video! I am impressed that you referred to the potentiometer as it is, opposed to those calling it a rheostat on the sensor adjustment. All my tools are based on the 4 inch port and I have the HF blower and I am trying to decide on the 6 inch or the 4 inch dust deputy What are your thoughts? Sure a 6 inch Plenum will move more CFM however using one tool at the time will it make that much difference? I currently have the stock impeller on the blower. I may upgrade that as well, what are your thoughts? What is the the best bang for the buck? Retired! Thanks.
+TheFalconJetDriver Thanks. For me the main factor I considered was that some of my tools had to be 15-20ft from the dust collector. On a short run it isn't as big of a deal. However, even just running 1 tool 20ft away on 4in duct will restrict the air flow considerably. The 6in lets more air move and creates less static pressure over longer distances.
@@GrayHouseStudio I'm in the same boat. My shop is 20x30 with the DC in one corner. some of my tools about about 20-23 feet away (direct line not pipe length). Do you see good dust collection at your tools with this setup? What CFM are you getting at distance? Btw, great video. Thanks!
Good Idea! I would have liked to see how much dust made it into the bag though. How long can you use it until the filter cartridge needs to be cleaned?
Love the notion of improving airflow by changing out the blade! I'm about 6 weeks away from this very same project... and am already planning to follow in your footsteps. Question: I don't have the need for a 6" main line. Is there any value-add to changing the blade if I'm going to maintain the original 4" line size? Cheers!
+Jim Robinson I would say yes. Even with the 4" duct you will see a increase in CFM. Plus, the different impeller design functions better under pressure so it should help keep CFM up with runs of 4" because the smaller duct generates more resistance.
Do you have to change the inlet if you change the impeller or was that just for the Oneida unit? This video is making me lean towards the HF unit for sure. I’m assuming changing the inlet also increases cfm? Thanks
You don’t have to change the inlet. I only did that to plow me to hook up a 6” pipe directly to the inlet on the blower of the harbor freight dust collector. I think that certainly contributed to the CFM increase.
Hi, great video. Do you have any other piping besides the 10’ of flex hose? Roughly how many feet of branch and amount of drops, if you do. Thank you...
Great video! I've spent a while trying to figure out how to improve my setup, but did not know about the impeller upgrade, so thanks! At 3:35 in the video -- the HVAC flange seems like it might restrict the airflow a bit as it is mounted inside the SDD instead of on the outside. Not sure if there's a way to fix that though or how much it matters. (Similar issue at the filter connection.)
+Around Home DIY thanks! That is a good point about the flange direction and there probably is a way to fix it but I didn't think the results would be worth the effort.
Hi I think you have a lot of HF DC owners excited about making their low Dollar DC work better. I had one question. At 2:27 "In order to let me attach a large cylinder outlet I attached???????" This is my sticking point. I have a few DC's to convert, and most are some form of rectangle, but the connecting housing won't turn, and if you use that for inflow from your ducts you need to attach something. In your list of materials you call it a "6″ Duct Transition" My problem on my 3rd transition is where do you find one that plays well with anything dust related. I see you mounted it to a plywood plate, which I assume you calked the crap out of, and did a flat plate to a recessed fitted/formed piece of sheet metal. When I have tried this it sounds like a pre-pubescent boys choir with 1200 voices all singing 3 keys to high. IOW it leaks like a biatch. Can you share what fitting you used? It seems to me this is the key ingredient, yet on all the DC flips I have seen, everyone blows by it like it's not important. TIA..
Excellent video. I'm just starting to build my HF DC system for my basement work area and I'm leaning very hard towards your design. Bouncing between 5" and 6" ducting. Also Questioning the 6" coming into the top of the filter and blowing straight down. What is that impact on the small plastic bag you have at the bottom? Isn't the force of that air blowing straight down into the bag? I know you said there wasn't much dust in the bag but could that be because it's blown back up into the filter? Thanks!
What a nice video I'm curious on the modification of the impeller. I didn't see a link or any onfo. getting one. I would have thought doubling the size of the impeller would double the CFM?? Isn't the impeller going the wrong way. Confusing to me
It is a different style of impeller. This on cups the air as it spins and generates more pressure. Although it doesn’t double the CFM it makes more consistent vacuum when hooked up. You can get one when it is back in stock, www.rikonparts.com/product/impeller-c-5-4-2
I've read through every comment and couldn't find where anyone asked this but is your motor physically mounted to your supports? It looks like it's just sitting on top connected to the SSD and to the filter piping freely. Kind of wondering if you've noticed any movements of the motor if that's the case? I'm in the middle of modifying my DC MOD for the 3rd or 4th time (lost count as each time it's to reduce space) trying to see if I go with your route as the position of the air output would require a similar position to yours.
Did you determine how the motor was physically mounted to the supports? I am about to do this and wonder if the starting torque is overcome just by the lever arm effect mount of the air filter.
Nice design. I have watched your video 2 or 3 times. Who would have thought reversing the veins would get more air and less noise. too deep for me. I have a Jet I want to do the same thing to. The Jet has a very large filter. Why the drop from 40 to less than 20? Does the 10' hose cut the air in half? Is the filter restricting the air?
Great build!! I've been thinking about doing the same for my 1.5 HP Jet DC1100. But trying to use the large pleated filter (20"x25") that came with it would be a pain. Or... maybe not. Questions: What is the measurement from the wall to the front of the Dust Deputy? How did you size the filter? How do you empty the barrel?
Great video. Do you still use this setup? Did I notice you are using 6"metal duct for mains? How long is your longest run and what type of airflow are you getting there? I have a 600sf shop and I'm working on planning out my dust collection now around the HF unit.
The total cost was around $550 if I include the cost of the DDXL. Below is the cost breakdown of the dust collector build: Harbor Freight Dust Collector - $135 Rikon Impeller - $100 Oneida Super Dust Deputy XL - $240 Clark Filter #1565938- $38 on ebay 55 gallon barrel - $15 6” duct collar - $16 6” duct transition - $10
I came here wondering how the 55gallon drum is attached. Does it basically slide under? Does it need to be slid under and then raised to clamp the lid? Or...?
I have purchased the Rikon impeller for harbor freight dust collector and the filter and the Oneida cyclone also. Waiting on a shop enlargement hopefully in Jan. or Feb. I saw on youtube that if you have a 2 HP dust collector or smaller you can use 30 guage metal ducting. But if you have a larger HP collector you'll need to go with a heavier gauge metal for the ducting. Probably 26 gauge but I am not sure. If you choose to go with the heavier gauge, Home Depot and Lowes won't have it. You have to find a commercial supplier for that. Food for thought!
I wrote them looking for a larger cyclone and wanted to make a video showing how I upgraded the impeller of the Harbor Freight Dust Collector. I guess they were intrigued by the idea and figured by supporting the project a popular youtube video could drive more sales than me purchasing the cyclone and possibly not making a video. I never imagined so many people would find the video helpful. Now when you search youtube a bunch of people are upgrading the impeller.
How much would it cost to do what you done? I have New 2hp HF dust collector and have seen several UTV on modification but no one shares what it cost. Thanks enjoyed your presentation😁
thesergeant I'm wondering the same thing. I've heard that the initial power draw on this DC is pretty severe in stock form, so I'd be very worried about the larger impeller.
Very nice! I hadn't seen anyone upgrade the HF impeller. Seems like a pretty good way to get more out of it. Any idea what the amp draw is with the new setup?
It pulls right at 15amps. If the dust collector is the only thing plugged into an isolated 15amp outlet then it will turn on fine. But, if anything else is running off that breaker, like the lights, then it will trip the breaker. I am running the dust collector off a 20amp breaker.
I officially nominate you for the best use of five minutes anywhere on UA-cam. First, your underlying prune to was well researched and engineered and of real consequence to people. Second, you gave full account of installation, all of the parts used, their sources, and answered all of the questions. Third, you edited for terrific, brief clarity. Thank you.
Thanks for taking the time to write such a positive review of the video and I’m glad it helped!
'scuse ME, but of what value is a reverse oriented blower fan? This system will be a LOT more efficient in moving air if you stick with the same directional blower vanes. There is even a sticker on the housing indicating air direction flow and the vanes SHOULD be curved in the same direction as the replaced blower. Major screw up here. WHo sold you this replacement blower?
@@darrowfortheprosecution1404 It is common to have reversed vanes on the blower because of the improved efficiency and reduced noise.
@@Mike--K You are correct. I did notice the impellor isn't listed on the comments where the info is listed by Mr Grey House Studio. I'd like to know where he purchased it.
@@scottmorgan5370 The most common replacement impeller for the Harbor Freight blower upgrade is the impeller from the Rikon P60-200 dust collector.
Good job of making the project simple and the video held my attention.. ALmost sold me on ordering a XL as it looked pretty easy.
Love this. I built something very similar using an old 1-stage 1hp Grizzly and Super Dust Deputy that has worked great for about 15 years-even installed a larger impeller which made a big difference. Mine is mounted on a mobile stand but too cumbersome to move-the wall mount system used here is better. Having a huge outflow filter surface area is key to maintain the air flow. A way to clean the filter to keep impedance low would be a big improvement, but the cyclone is so efficient (and I’m so lazy?) that I’ve only cleaned it a few times.
I've looked at about a dozen harborfreight dust collector mods and compared to everybody else you did everything right on this build.
Good Video i liked the impeller upgrade And the whole system you created thanks for all the details I’m a retired Woodworker and between shops/ homes at this point in life due to a Traumatic Brain Injury that forced me into early retirement i. Think I’m going to use a Cardboard Sono Tube as my barrel so i can poprivet a viewing Acylic window to monitor dust levels in a not so “?high tech” way you did ! Truthfully. I didnt knows that system existed so thanks I’m 56 years old and I’m learning everyday from you young guys !
Let me know if the sono tube works. I thought about that but was afraid t might crush under the vacuum. Getting dust collection in place for all my machines made such a difference!
Once you have removed the impeller you the can remove the 4 bolts that hold the shroud and then you can turn the shroud so that the original motor mount can be used to anchor the unit to the wall. Just did that today. Waiting for the dust deputy and filter. Great build. Thanks for sharing.
Hank
Thanks for pointing that out Hank. That is one of the only things I might go back and change about the build. I didn't realize I needed to/could rotate the motor with the four bolts behind the impeller until it was too late. I borrowed the puller tool to remove the impeller and had already returned the tool once I made the realization. Hope your dust collector build goes smoothly.
This is the 1st video of yours that I've watched. It's really well done. Clarity and economy of verbiage. Nice work!
Very well done and fun to watch. Great job.
Thank you for this. I just used some of these steps to mount my filter and customize the filter top and blower intake to use 6" duct collars. The use of rivets to attach to the blower was key to avoid interference with the fan.
the way you put this together is almost exactly what i had sketched out while researching on my own, but i hadn't seen anyone else build it this way. awesome!
+kaianine That is great to hear! The dust collector was a fun build and the modification made a huge difference.
Direct and tithe point, get it . One of the best vids I have seen .thought of my 9th grade shop teacher almost 50 years ago . Well done 👍
Great video and thank you! I have been searching for ways to upgrade my HFDC more than what it is and I am thinking you hit the bulls eye man! Where did you get the 12 inch impeller? I didn’t see it listed...maybe i overlooked it?
Ditto, looking for that as well.
Nice video, You inspired me to use my wind indicator I already had for sailing to measure CFM!!! I would suggest people start by making a simple manometer to read the static pressure. That would cost virtually nothing. It's so funny that Harbor Freight tools either become parts for really nice systems, or need a lot of mods to become good machines. A lot of these things would cost very little at the factory (like a better impeller), and would let them make a "Pro Line" of tools and make a lot more money.
It is so true.
Thank you! Your video is the type of material that regular folks like me enjoy watching. No BS and well documented. =8)
That is great feedback! It is a constant struggle to figure out how much information to provide and when talking is too over the top.
Just did this impeller upgrade on my HF unit last week. Running only the blower housing with a 6" inlet was pushing 17 amps, and the breaker in the basement was humming. Like you, I also reached out to Oneida but they recommended a SDD (not XL), so I bought it. When I attach the SDD to the blower housing (no filter yet) amps drop to 13-ish. A 2hp 70% efficient motor should be drawing 16 amps under full load, so this tells me already the system isn't operating as efficiently as it should. As a result I believe the SDD, while rated for less than 3HP units, actually ends up significantly restricting flow, with only a 5" inlet port, at least in the case of the modified HF system. So, I ordered an XL to try that out, and whatever one ends up working the best I'll keep. The other will end up on ebay. As my first youtube video, I may document the experiment between the two SDD's for all those who may be interested.
byugrad1024
Where did you get the impeller upgrade?
@@willjung3691 I got it from tool center dot com (cyber woodworking depot llc). It was like $10 more than other options which at the time were unavailable. It may be available again through Rikon directly, but last I looked it was backordered.
byugrad1024
Thanks, One other question. Where did you get that filter?
@@willjung3691 I haven't ordered a filter yet. Maybe you are thinking of the author of this video? He doesn't seem to be answering anymore probably because this video is several years old.
I know this comment is 1 year ago but I just got my HF DC and I was thinking of upgrading to a SDD. Did you find out which one was best? I am thinking of going with the standard SDD instead of the XL since it uses less amps.
Looks like a very good setup that's easy. Thanks.
Brent,
I can't thank you enough for making this video. You were kind enough to leave a comment to my post on the Lumberjocks forum as well as a link to this video. This is exactly the mod I am making to my HF DC for my shop this year. My build is still at the infancy stage. Only the HF DC and Powermatic 4" X 20' flex hose so far. Taking your valuable time to list links to the parts and price breakdown for this build in invaluable. Taking the comparative CFM reading before and after the mod was extremely helpful as well. This video was very well made showing all aspects of the mod from start to finish. I would say, of all the videos I've seen of this mod on UA-cam, your is by far the best. Thank you again!!!!
Thanks for the kind words! I read through a ton of forums about the impeller but had a hard time finding any results. I'm glad this video helps fill in some gaps. I'm excited to see more Harbor Freight Dust Collector builds like this.
+duffman1278 Thanks for pointing out the CFM calculator detail. I updated the video so it is accurate.
"...the married couple." I love that clarification. Imagine if I'd watched this video without knowing you are legally bonded in holy wedlock.
Excellent demonstration and your building techniques are solid. I'm using this idea.
I'd like to get an update on how this is working. Seems like all UA-cam channels that did something similar to this, ended up abandoning it, and upgrading to high dollar setups.
It still works great for me. I think a lot of people are happy to ditch their DIY setup for a sponsored Professional setup with an affiliate link.
This is one of the simplest and most straightforward HF mods I've seen. Thanks for sharing. I'm sorry if I'm missing something obvious but where did you get the 12" replacement fan? Does it come with the HF dust collector?
Thanks! I sourced it separately from Rikon. They sell it as a replacement for their dust collector
Is there a part number for the Rikon impeller you can share with us?
@@75blackviking I was wondering the same thing and I found the replacement impeller for the 2hp dust collection system on the Rikon web page. Unfortunately, they are currently out of stock. Here's the info, for what its worth.
P60-200-22
Impeller - Sturdy Metal Design with 7 Rear Facing Blades
(Dia. 11-3/4”, Shaft Dia. 20mm, Height 3-1/4”, Shaft Hub Length 1-1/4”)
Amazing video! Great work! I like the talk through with a fast forward playback.
I have an HF unit I changed up too. The motor is really more like a 1hp. and not really efficient for 6in pipes.. (3hp good) you work with what you have I'm hooked up with cheaper 4in pipes and works OK. (actually very happy 6 years now)
Sooo fellas, what is the part number for that tasty impeller, have to have one!! GOT IT .... Part 21 / P60-200-22
I do like your set up not too big not to small. I run the air out a hole in my garage, no filter to replace or clean. MDF board is the true test for these units. great set up !!!
One more thing... try and use the least amount of flex hose as possible, it kills airspeed. You can add a small window to the bucket for dust monitoring too.
@GrayHouseStudio its been 6 years, how is your dust collector working? And was the cyclone too big for the 2HP dust collector since it is advertised 3HP dust collectors?
Great video. Was wondering about the combo of HF and Super Dust Deputy XL.
this is a nice, simple, clean design.
The Oneida Dust Deputy XL that you used is rated for dust collectors that have 3-5 horsepower. The HF has 2. Has this translated to any issues for you? Do you have anything more than very small amounts of fine dust getting to your last plastic bag?
Wow, dust sensor really $460. My dust collector is in another room and would love a sensor to tell me when full but can't justify that price. Great vid - thanks!
Ya, the sensor is one of my favorite dust collector features. I set it so it notifies me before the can gets so heavy it is hard to empty. Here is a link: www.oneida-air.com/dust-sentry-adjustable-bin-level-indicator
Thanks for the reply, not sure where I was looking for the first price. $150 is much more reasonable.
Concise and to the point. Good video.
+jon Q Great to hear. Thanks!
Very well done. Will be building your version when my new house is done. Thanks for taking the time to do the video.
Very nice. Thanks for sharing. Being a dust collection geek myself, i may have to look into the DD.
+myermedia Thanks! Let me know how it goes if you decide to go this route with your dust collector.
Excellent vid and so full of extras that many other vids don't include.
To fully appreciate all that work it will be necessary for me to slow it down so I can properly digest it.
Can this vid be slowed as I really don't want to do lengthy stop/start sessions?
That makes sense! We often struggle with making videos too long and trying to incorporate all the content. We will figure out a way to do a better job taking things a little slower in the future.
Hi, New subscriber!
Outstanding video!Right to the point and easy to understand!
I just bought a 4" Super Dust Deputy that will sit on top of a sealable 55 gallon steel drum.It has a "clamp" style ring that seals the top to the drum.I'm concerned about an air leak at the cover seal.You didn't mention sealing the barrel cover with anything.Did you use any type of rubber seal or something else?
Thanks for a great (to the point) video!
Tom
I had some leaking on the lid, good point. I put two layers of duck (not duct foil) tape on the barrel rim and that created a cheap gasket solution that sealed the lid.
Great video, love the concept. Unfortunately now (2019) it's almost impossible to get that impeller and total system cost is equal to or possibly greater to just buying a system. Surprisingly there's still hardly any reasonably priced / smaller dust collection options for small shops.
Rikon 12” impeller???
I just bought a WEN Turbo Fan 3403-022. $50
@timjeffers2703 where did you buy it from?
Thank you for this video. It was clear and precise so Thank You! I had an issue removing the impeller from my HF unit. Turns out it was rusted on the motor shaft. 2 days of PB penetrating oil and tapping into the collar with a custom puller tool and I was able to remove it. Looking forward to my new setup. Your video made it clear. How is the motor housing mounted to the top of your 2x4 wall bracket?
Nice setup! I'm picking up the HF dust collector this week and am already looking at upgrades.
+MakeWithDad Thanks! The cyclone made a huge difference for the dust collector. It is nice not to have a floor covered in sawdust anymore.
Great video. Where did you get the bigger impeller?
Do you have a link to where you purchased the larger impeller wheel? Thanks so much for this video! It’s so helpful.
Hey man thank you for taking time to make this video it was very simple and felt like it was outline very well great job
WELL THOUGHT OUT IMPRESSIVE SETUP!
This is the best video on the subject yet. Two questions
1) I have the regular super dust deputy w 5" inlet and 6" outlets. Is it worth upping the impeller?
2) would the HF side cylinder that it comes with make performance better? Curious why you left it off.
Thanks! I would say it is definitely worth the upgrade. There is still an increase in CFM without increasing the 5" inlet. Plus, the impeller design is more efficient. I don't think the side cylinder would make performance better. It restricts the airflow compared to the 6" duct I used. Also, the 90 degree turn directs the air to the bottom of the filter so any particles the make it through the cyclone go straight into the bag instead of into the filter.
I knew a guy that moved his SHOP next to the Steak n’ Stein restaurant. He just blows his sawdust directly to the floor via 6” hose line.
Great tip on the impeller, ordered one from Rikon today.
Thanks for posting this!
+Peter Kelly Awesome! It is good to know the process was simple for you too.
This helps. Love your set up. Was wondering where to find an upgraded impeller.
Impeller blades are backwards, you are losing about 1/2 suction.
@@MrCarrizojim Rikon designed their impeller intentionally this way as reverse curve blades create greater static pressure using significantly less energy. Forward-facing blades will create greater air speed and less static pressure and the trade off isn’t worthwhile on a 115v motor of that size.
Awesome video! I will be replicating, but venting to the outside.
Question -- How do you empty the drum? Naturally you pop the locking ring off, but do you have a mechanism raising and lowering the drum to the ground since the cyclone and motor and attached to the wall? How are you supporting the drum's weight when it's attached to the lid? Thanks!
i have almost the same setup, but this is very well done. thanks for the video, i will be making improvements to my current rig.
I wondered what impellar you were using. There is some discussion on LumberJocks re: this Central Machinery Dust Collector with the Rikon impeller . Have you measured the amp draw with different gates open? I'll look into your videos to see your ducting. The DC from harbor Frieght has a @ 5 inch port. Good luck!
Ya, the Rikon impeller works great with the Harbor Freight Dust Collector. I haven't had a chance to take detailed measurements of the amp draw with different gates open. From what I can tell, the initial impeller ramp up when the motor is first turned on draws the most amps. I was able to change the stock 5 inch port to a 6 inch on the Harbor Freight DC to increase air flow.
I don't know how you are going to remove that barrel when it is full without a lot of problems, also I wish I knew which blower (exactly) and where you find upgraded impellers, other than that, great vid.
It would be nice to know where you picked up the bigger impeller??? It would also be interesting to see your finished system, and see if it's as good as in your first test. Other than that, great video.
Yea, wtf. Links my ass!
The impeller from WEN (3403) also works to upgrade the HF dust collector.
excellent presentation! To the point!
Thanks!
Great video! So many out there but I love the way you show everything and make it easy to understand. What size pipe do you have coming into the Oneida dust deputy? Did you run 6" throughout? I wanted to stay around 4". I am on the opposite side of the garage which will be a challenge to figure out the piping.
Impressive. Great creativity
I realize that this is an old video and I hope that you can answer this question. At 5:08 you show the air flow results, one thing that jumped out was that your ft/min is less than the optimal 4000ft/min, and that was just a short piece of duct and flex hose. Once you get the entire duct system installed, I'd guess that with the static pressure losses you will be significantly less than the 3838ft/min you displayed, which can cause wood chips to build up in your ducting and not move the really fine dust. So, I'm wondering if you measured the cfm at you machine that is furthest from the dust collector? Have you had any problems with the dust collection?
Great video with lots of detail, many thanks. I am trying to source a similar air filter over here in the UK and it would help if I could find some more details of the filter you used. Thanks!
The filter has an inner diameter of 8.375 an outer diameter of 12.75 and is 36inch long. It is a Clark P1565938.
Thanks for those specifications! I will see if I can find a listing for it over here in the UK. Failing that I will look for something of a similar size.
Only thing left to show us is the emptying of the 55 gallon barrel. No way to throw slack between drum and the cyclone.
I believe I'll be mounting my barrel on a wheeled cart and use a drum liner. Wheel it close to where it's going to be emptied and remove the bag. Easy Peasy. Getting the barrel back together whether sliding or rolling is when you need your slack.
I wish I had the ceiling height to add a bit of flex between the barrel and the cyclone of the dust collector. I decided to use a jack on wheels under the barrel. It lets me lower he barrel about two inches and roll it out from under the cyclone.
@@GrayHouseStudio
Cool beans. You should have included it in your presentation. Not all are dialed in on the small things. How come you didn't utilize the stock cyclone to hang your filter ??
Nice presentation by the way
This was a great video, thanks!
Nice video which I just recently saw for the first time. I've seen several comments about the larger impeller drawing more amps and tripping their 15 amp breakers. That's not a worry for me as the breaker servicing the motor is 30 amps. My electrician tells me I should worry about the increase amperage draw causing dangerous heating to the 14 gauge wire leading to the motor. Have you had any troubles in this regard as I'm considering rewiring with 12 gauge wire?
I know this video was a while ago but curious it your filter was big enough to allow filtration and also air escape so that the small bag doesn’t blow off. The filter you used is smaller than others systems I’ve seen so curious if it provided enough airflow.
Any changes you would make to the system if you could do it all over again? Great content. Thanks.
Where did you get the larger impellor and what model is the new filter from Wynn. This is the best upgrade I have seen on You Tube.
If you click the link in the description it will take you to a page with all the supply details and links.
Did that and found nothing on the impeller. Good project though. Were you able to upgrade the wiring in the motor to 240V from the standard 120 it comes with? Often you can just change the wiring in the motor box which shows it wired both ways. Getting ready to put one in my expanded shop and always wondered why the impeller had so much room around it. A pump's efficiency is greatly determined by the impeller to housing clearance--the tighter the better. You found a quick solution it would seem. Were the shafts the same when installing the new one? Thanks. Take care. Doug
Where did you get your replacement impeller? How did you decide on that particular filter? Did you consult Wynn Environmental, the only source of sizing information I'm aware of?
I have the same unit, HF collector and Oneida cyclone attachment unit. Have you ever lubricated the motor? Also, if you have, how did you lube it? Do you also clean the vertical filter often? Good job!
That is a great question. I am actually horrible at maintenance. I usually just dust around and blow out the motor. It has been several years and I still haven't lubricated it.
Its interesting that you were able to change to a larger impeller without overloading the motor.
do you have a link for the 12 inch impeller?
Nice video! To the point, exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Thanks! It is great to hear that feedback. We have subscribed to your channel for a while and really like the kid trike project.
This dust collection system seems pretty well-made. I like the smaller diameter of the filter for the fine dust. The question I have is what holds your dust deputy up when you change or empty the barrel? It doesn't seem like there's much support other than the tape holding it on to the upper pipe and motor.
+Mark Radmall I did end up screwing the pipe fitting on the motor to the Dust Deputy which holds it with the drum removed. Also, I came back and made a bracket to screw to the wall and stick to the dust deputy mid-way down the cone.
This is a nice simple setup. Can you update your video description with links to all the stuff you used?
Yes, I will work on getting these links added to the description.
Nice job. And the presentation moves along.
How do you raise the lid enough to free the drum for emptying?
I put a little motorcycle jack under the drum of the dust collector. This makes it easy to roll the full drum around and lift it into place under the fixed lid. My ceiling wasn’t tall enough to put flex between the cyclone and the drum.
Hi,
Like the design but, were did you get the larger impeller from? I didn't see it in the description or your sales page.
Thank you
Steve Probelski
great video...how about a 3 year follow up? im getting ready to build this set up, ant regrets using 6" duct with the upgraded HL system? thank you for your time.
You only have 27k subs and im sure less 6 years ago and Oneida gave you a dust cyclone. Wow. Just think these people with millions of followers.
Wow buddy this absolutely superb... including the video production work.
Great job, Brent!
Nice to hear from you Guy and glad you like it.
Is that the 2 hp dust collector? Looks like several components missing unless it’s just the 1 hp. Also you said 753 cfm and the 2 hp is rated at 1550 cfm. Maybe that rating from HF is bs. I have an old craftsman 1 hp and was looking at the 2 hp but this video makes me think I could just upgrade the 1 hp with impeller and 4” dust deputy vented outside and experience an improvement.
It is the "2hp" dust collector. When I was doing my research I found that high end dust collector companies post actual CFM (tested in actual use) and Harbor Freight doesn't advertise that number. That sounds like it would work if the shaft of the 1hp motor is the same size. The larger impeller is a little heavier so it take more amps to ramp up.
Best upgrade to the HF dust collector on UA-cam... Great system man.
Can I use that impeller with 4" tubing for my system??
+Jony Q Absolutely, the impeller would still be a huge improvement in the amount of air the blower would move on a dust collector using 4" tubing.
How easy it is to remove the drum when its full? Assuming the entire assembly is secured to your wood support, is it difficult to get the lid to disengage from the drum?
where did you find the calculation sheet/conversion table. thanks very helpfull info
Great design. I am working on this upgrade to my HF DC right now, but can't decide if I should get the SDDXL or the regular SDD (do to Oneida's recommended sizing). Any input? Do you have a performance update?
+john Carter The dust collector is working as good as I could have ever hoped. I have filled up the 55 gallon barrel and the filter is still clean with nothing in the bag at the bottom of the filter. I am a fan of the SDDXL and like that it is compatible with 6" fittings/pipes on both sides. I haven't had a chance to work with the SDD to do a comparison but I'm not disappointed with the larger unit.
Great Video!
I am impressed that you referred to the potentiometer as it is, opposed to those calling it a rheostat on the sensor adjustment.
All my tools are based on the 4 inch port and I have the HF blower and I am trying to decide on the 6 inch or the 4 inch dust deputy
What are your thoughts? Sure a 6 inch Plenum will move more CFM however using one tool at the time will it make that much difference?
I currently have the stock impeller on the blower. I may upgrade that as well, what are your thoughts? What is the the best bang for the buck?
Retired! Thanks.
+TheFalconJetDriver Thanks. For me the main factor I considered was that some of my tools had to be 15-20ft from the dust collector. On a short run it isn't as big of a deal. However, even just running 1 tool 20ft away on 4in duct will restrict the air flow considerably. The 6in lets more air move and creates less static pressure over longer distances.
@@GrayHouseStudio I'm in the same boat. My shop is 20x30 with the DC in one corner. some of my tools about about 20-23 feet away (direct line not pipe length). Do you see good dust collection at your tools with this setup? What CFM are you getting at distance? Btw, great video. Thanks!
gread design . super powerful.
Thank you! Cheers!
Can you give me name and specs of the air filter? Thank you. Good job,
Good Idea! I would have liked to see how much dust made it into the bag though. How long can you use it until the filter cartridge needs to be cleaned?
Love the notion of improving airflow by changing out the blade! I'm about 6 weeks away from this very same project... and am already planning to follow in your footsteps.
Question: I don't have the need for a 6" main line. Is there any value-add to changing the blade if I'm going to maintain the original 4" line size?
Cheers!
+Jim Robinson I would say yes. Even with the 4" duct you will see a increase in CFM. Plus, the different impeller design functions better under pressure so it should help keep CFM up with runs of 4" because the smaller duct generates more resistance.
Thanks!
Where did you get the upgraded impeller?
Do you have to change the inlet if you change the impeller or was that just for the Oneida unit? This video is making me lean towards the HF unit for sure. I’m assuming changing the inlet also increases cfm? Thanks
You don’t have to change the inlet. I only did that to plow me to hook up a 6” pipe directly to the inlet on the blower of the harbor freight dust collector. I think that certainly contributed to the CFM increase.
Hi, great video. Do you have any other piping besides the 10’ of flex hose? Roughly how many feet of branch and amount of drops, if you do.
Thank you...
Great video! I've spent a while trying to figure out how to improve my setup, but did not know about the impeller upgrade, so thanks! At 3:35 in the video -- the HVAC flange seems like it might restrict the airflow a bit as it is mounted inside the SDD instead of on the outside. Not sure if there's a way to fix that though or how much it matters. (Similar issue at the filter connection.)
+Around Home DIY thanks! That is a good point about the flange direction and there probably is a way to fix it but I didn't think the results would be worth the effort.
Hi I think you have a lot of HF DC owners excited about making their low Dollar DC work better. I had one question. At 2:27 "In order to let me attach a large cylinder outlet I attached???????" This is my sticking point. I have a few DC's to convert, and most are some form of rectangle, but the connecting housing won't turn, and if you use that for inflow from your ducts you need to attach something. In your list of materials you call it a "6″ Duct Transition" My problem on my 3rd transition is where do you find one that plays well with anything dust related. I see you mounted it to a plywood plate, which I assume you calked the crap out of, and did a flat plate to a recessed fitted/formed piece of sheet metal. When I have tried this it sounds like a pre-pubescent boys choir with 1200 voices all singing 3 keys to high. IOW it leaks like a biatch. Can you share what fitting you used? It seems to me this is the key ingredient, yet on all the DC flips I have seen, everyone blows by it like it's not important. TIA..
Excellent video. I'm just starting to build my HF DC system for my basement work area and I'm leaning very hard towards your design. Bouncing between 5" and 6" ducting. Also Questioning the 6" coming into the top of the filter and blowing straight down. What is that impact on the small plastic bag you have at the bottom? Isn't the force of that air blowing straight down into the bag? I know you said there wasn't much dust in the bag but could that be because it's blown back up into the filter? Thanks!
What a nice video I'm curious on the modification of the impeller. I didn't see a link or any onfo. getting one.
I would have thought doubling the size of the impeller would double the CFM?? Isn't the impeller going the wrong way. Confusing to me
It is a different style of impeller. This on cups the air as it spins and generates more pressure. Although it doesn’t double the CFM it makes more consistent vacuum when hooked up. You can get one when it is back in stock, www.rikonparts.com/product/impeller-c-5-4-2
@@GrayHouseStudio thank you.
Always thinking about pressure never thought about vacuum
Just curious
How did you come across that
I read some comments and didn't see it, where did you get the 12" impeller upgrade?
I've read through every comment and couldn't find where anyone asked this but is your motor physically mounted to your supports? It looks like it's just sitting on top connected to the SSD and to the filter piping freely. Kind of wondering if you've noticed any movements of the motor if that's the case? I'm in the middle of modifying my DC MOD for the 3rd or 4th time (lost count as each time it's to reduce space) trying to see if I go with your route as the position of the air output would require a similar position to yours.
Did you determine how the motor was physically mounted to the supports? I am about to do this and wonder if the starting torque is overcome just by the lever arm effect mount of the air filter.
Nice design. I have watched your video 2 or 3 times. Who would have thought reversing the veins would get more air and less noise. too deep for me. I have a Jet I want to do the same thing to. The Jet has a very large filter.
Why the drop from 40 to less than 20?
Does the 10' hose cut the air in half?
Is the filter restricting the air?
Great build!!
I've been thinking about doing the same for my 1.5 HP Jet DC1100.
But trying to use the large pleated filter (20"x25") that came with it would be a pain. Or... maybe not.
Questions:
What is the measurement from the wall to the front of the Dust Deputy?
How did you size the filter?
How do you empty the barrel?
Great video. Do you still use this setup? Did I notice you are using 6"metal duct for mains? How long is your longest run and what type of airflow are you getting there? I have a 600sf shop and I'm working on planning out my dust collection now around the HF unit.
Wow! By far the best Harbor Freight DC upgrade design I've ever seen!
Do you have a sense of total cost including the DDXL?
The total cost was around $550 if I include the cost of the DDXL. Below is the cost breakdown of the dust collector build:
Harbor Freight Dust Collector - $135
Rikon Impeller - $100
Oneida Super Dust Deputy XL - $240
Clark Filter #1565938- $38 on ebay
55 gallon barrel - $15
6” duct collar - $16
6” duct transition - $10
Gray House Studio, I am not finding that air filter number you have listed for your dust collector. Do you have a listing reference on eBay for it?
Great video, How do you lift the can to the lid and cyclone, and how do you keep them secured to each other?
I came here wondering how the 55gallon drum is attached. Does it basically slide under? Does it need to be slid under and then raised to clamp the lid? Or...?
Where did you pick up your galvanized duct fittings? Great build, will duplicate yours! Thanks!
+Gary Christiansen Thanks! All the supply details are on our website. There is a link to that page in the description below the video.
I have purchased the Rikon impeller for harbor freight dust collector and the filter and the Oneida cyclone also. Waiting on a shop enlargement hopefully in Jan. or Feb. I saw on youtube that if you have a 2 HP dust collector or smaller you can use 30 guage metal ducting. But if you have a larger HP collector you'll need to go with a heavier gauge metal for the ducting. Probably 26 gauge but I am not sure. If you choose to go with the heavier gauge, Home Depot and Lowes won't have it. You have to find a commercial supplier for that. Food for thought!
How do you get freebies from Oneida? Cool!
I wrote them looking for a larger cyclone and wanted to make a video showing how I upgraded the impeller of the Harbor Freight Dust Collector. I guess they were intrigued by the idea and figured by supporting the project a popular youtube video could drive more sales than me purchasing the cyclone and possibly not making a video. I never imagined so many people would find the video helpful. Now when you search youtube a bunch of people are upgrading the impeller.
Awesome. Can I ask where you got the clear plastic bags? I'm having trouble finding bags the right size. Thanks!
How much would it cost to do what you done? I have New 2hp HF dust collector and have seen several UTV on modification but no one shares what it cost. Thanks enjoyed your presentation😁
Have you tested your amperage draw with the new impeller? I'd be curious to know how many amps it's pulling with that larger impeller.
thesergeant I'm wondering the same thing. I've heard that the initial power draw on this DC is pretty severe in stock form, so I'd be very worried about the larger impeller.
Very nice! I hadn't seen anyone upgrade the HF impeller. Seems like a pretty good way to get more out of it. Any idea what the amp draw is with the new setup?
It pulls right at 15amps. If the dust collector is the only thing plugged into an isolated 15amp outlet then it will turn on fine. But, if anything else is running off that breaker, like the lights, then it will trip the breaker. I am running the dust collector off a 20amp breaker.
@@GrayHouseStudio where did you get the Impeller from?
Excellente vidéo beaucoup d’informations très clair et ça va me servir merci bien