This taking from I've watched from Stumpy Nubs and adding the power of the Cyclone from Oneida. The one difference is that you leave the dust bag as is where Stumpy Nubs cuts his bag and dumps it into a five gallon pail with a trash bag. Although with the cyclone you are going to get far less debris in the bag requiring less replacements. Just the same, I like his idea as the heavy duty bag will break down over time from removing the metal clamp that keeps it in place. That simple modification to yours would prevent the you from ever needing to replace the heavy duty plastic bag. I am picking up the Harbor Freight Dust Collector next weekend, and I plan to do a combination of what you have here with the modifications Stumpy Nubs did. Thanks for sharing. This was an excellent contribution.
Hey, being a Dutchman myself, I love your sweatshirt. I did something similar with a HarborFreight dust collector. The on/off switch will wear out quickly and more specific to replace. Wire your dust collector through a common wall switch in a more accessible area and leave the motor switch on. A proactive problem elimination.
This was a great instructional. I used it to convert my single stage Grizzly dust collector into a two stage system. I made 3 key alterations though. 1. My air filter is mounted on top of the out flow and the bag below the outflow. I also used a paddle air filter that you can hand crank the paddle which flaps internal paddles against the air filter knocking dust out. 2. When I used a rubber trash can the air suction was so great it crumpled the can causing the upper seal to be breached. I upgraded to a metal can for a more rigid structure to with stand against suction implosion. 3. Once I upgraded to a metal can the wood feet used to hold up the can no longer worked well because the rubber can could flex a bit into its upper lid - the metal can wouldn't and kept falling when trying to put the feet in place. As well, the upper lip of the metal can being much more rigid caused some air gaps. To make it mount with a good seal I used toggle/pull latch clamps - the latch/levers attached to the can and the catch/clamp part is attached to the outer edge of the upper wood lid. I use 4 of them equal distance around the lid and it pulls the can up nice and tight.
Thanks for this. You were the initial inspiration to make my own cyclone setup. I went with a 2hp Shop Fox blower, Oneida SDD, and Wynn filter. But Dick Wynn recommended the Gamma seal lid approach to make a threaded filter attachment, and I did that. Mounted to a custom plenum out of Baltic birch. I kept hesitating, drowning in dust, because the space is so restricted. Garage door and track on one side, lumber rack on the other, and the electrical panel right in the middle.
I haven't done this myself yet but a friend helped a guy put copper wire inside his plastic dust collector system. The claim is static discharge can cause a fire within the pipe. I did notice static in my piping so it's on my radar to add grounding wires. Nice build thanks for posting.
Thanks for taking the time to document your dust collector build. I've checked out other designs but I will be basing my build on your design. I like how you stack the cartridge filter and plastic debris bag to minimize the over-all height of the assembly. Well done and much appreciated.
I have never seen a video of yours before. I am very impressed with your work. I really love the HIGH QUALITY work yet geared for an average budget. Great job. I just bought the same Harbor Freight unit. I'm waiting on my new planer to arrive. Can't wait to try them out.
I really like this setup. I talked to +MattCremona 6 months ago and he advised me not to waste money on a single stage dust collector unless I was going to convert to 2 stage collection. Best tip yet and I like your setup here.
+Bill Hantzopoulos Yea, single stage systems are not good for a multitude of reasons. But, single stage is better than nothing! Thanks for watching Bill.
Great build. I have HP's DC, and I know if using a cartridge you have to get more of the large dust/chips out of air stream (than a typical single stage can) to keep them from clogging it. This is a really nice solution to that problem. Best one I've seen yet.
Tyler, nice video and a great help. I made a couple of tweaks due to space issues in my shop. At 12:40 when you were pushing your wedges in to raise your collector can, I have a 2x3 block against the wall to allow more clearance. I also glued a 3/8" plywood disc on the bottom of my can to add strength and act as a bit of a skid plate. Again thanks for the great idea and explanation. Love the family helpers too!
I Love the safety (PPE) you are using, especially for the Little Dude!! Protect his hearing for years to come. Because he will learn to use the PPE later in life!! AWESOME!!AWESOME!!
This is timely as I am adding dust collection to my shop in a few weeks. I was going to go with single stage, but two stage would be more economical and effective in the long run. Thanks for doing the grunt work for me Tyler.
2 stage is without question the way to go and making it yourself will be, at most, about half the cost of getting a ready made one. Glad I could help, and good luck!
Great build and well produced. High praise all around. And...YOU USED A TRIPOD!!!! Yeah!! The ONLY suggestion in would make is to use T-nuts on the back of the plywood used to mount the motor. I think it would make installation easier and, in the event that you need to service the motor, easier to disassemble for service.
One of the best videos I have yet to come across...unless you're dropping $5K on an Oneida system!. I plan on venting directly to the outside. Great job, my friend!!!!
That's awesome! Almost exactly what I want to do.. thanks for doing the planning work! Also.. you're a good dad, letting your kids play in the shop with you!
Dang, dude's got a wife, 2 kids and cat walking around him while he's working on his project.. Can definitely tell you love what you do haha. Certainly earned my sub.
Been fighting a DC3300 for a couple of months. It doesn't have enough suds. Just bought this one today for 170$. Thanks for the info Boba Fett. Heading down this road I'm sure. Great video!
Love this idea. I want to do this with my Penn State dust collector. Same design as the HF pretty much. Only thing I might want to do differently is a flexible coupling between the cyclone and the bin to be able to lift the lid for emptying.
Nice build. Gonna have to give a setup like that a try. Next time if you don’t have help hanging something heavy like that motor you can throw a fence cleat and it can hold the board for you while you drive the screws. 👍🏽👍🏽great video
Cool I must build this, Also after owning Milwaukee,Makita and Craftsman cordless drills and dis satisfied with all of them I bought the Ridgid Drills and for the past 3 years have had much better battery life than the 3 mentioned .
+boatbuilder1 Awesome! Have been really pleased with my RIDGID tools. You really need to check out their new stealth force impact....it is incredible. Thanks for watching!
Tyler I loved your video. I want to make a set up just like yours except using the bucket instead of the bag at the bottom of the filter. I also like the other companion video you made to this with all the links. Great set up and a very thorough explanation! You took your time and made everything very easy to understand. Thanks again.
Want to thank you for this unique set up. I’m so glad I found this. It should serve to solve my space limitation problem. I also took a look at Jeremy's set up on Guy's Woodshop who is also inspiring me. I'm surprised we don't see the filter installed like you did, more often, since in your configuration the filter does not have to be above a standard ceiling height and there's a straight connection between the blower and the Dust Deputy and the blower and the impeller. This seems like a more efficiently designed set up. I’ll hang the impeller by turning the support legs upwards and mounting them on the ceiling, but I’ll have to have someone shorten the legs and weld the mounting plates back on. I’ll mount the blower and impeller as high as possible so the run from the Dust Deputy can be as high to the ceiling as possible also. What I’d like to know is, can’t the lid on top of the impeller be a simple thin piece of plywood just caulked in place if I’m supporting the impeller with the included legs? And would you have designed the attachment of the filter to the impeller any other way, now that you have been using the system? Thanks for your ingenuity and expertise. - Jake
Jake, thanks for watching out stuff. After making this video Wynn (company that makes the filter) has come up with a few clever clips that allow easier removal of the filter, if you ever needed to....I haven't, if I was do build this again that is the only thing I would change. This system works excellent.
This is really awesome man. Thank you for showing how you converted this dust collector into a much better system. I really want to improve the dust collection in my shop and this shows how I could make it happen. 🙂
+konaok1 I have several switches around the shop but I think I still may go with a remote that I can have on my person all the time. Thanks for watching man!
Good job Tyler. Thanks for sharing. One future tip your viewers might want to consider... using french cleats to hang the motor unit, instead of permanently attaching it to the wall. It's a solid but temporary way to secure heavy items to a wall, with the flexibility to move easily later.
The Harbor Freight 2 HP unit already separates dust. That is why the bag is in on the top - so dust falls into the bottom after the integrated cyclone separator. There is even a divider between the two halves and it spins the air under the separator.
Like your videos Tyler! I did a similar thing a year ago but wasn't happy with the air being recirculated even with a 1 micron pleated cartridge filter so vented it outside, works a treat!
+David Stanton If I wasn't in the basement I may have vented outside as well but many people can't so this appeals to a larger group of woodworkers! Thanks for watching!
David Stanton - I'm thinking of doing the same thing - venting to the outside. But, what did you do to provide a safe inbound air flow that would support the impeller driven venting? I'm in the basement with oil-burning furnace (common in New England, USA).
Dave, take care. Some express concern that venting a basement shop outside may result in pulling furnace gases such as carbon monoxide into your shop. I am not an engineer so I can not confirm with authority, but I would investigate.
i have a single stage 2hp Jet DC, but after watching this video, i have a feeling i will soon have a 2 stage 2hp Jet. :) thanks so much for taking the time to make this video. i am inspired. -JD
+Tyler G , thanks. Any ideas or tips would be very welcome. As soon as it gets a bit warmer i'm adding a 8'x8' extension on the back of my shop to house the dust system. it will have a return into the shop itself so the ac/heat wont be lost. improving my dust system, as well as running more permanent duct work is the next step. Your DC upgrade is exactly what i want to do.
Great job Tyler! That looks like a very nice set up indeed. Those filters are a PITA to clean, so that vortex unit essentially eliminates that job. I have a similar set up & love it. Steve
+Ben Brubaker This is certainly a bit less expensive but your system is probably more powerful.....I suppose it really depends on what kind of performance you are after! Thanks for watching Ben.
Great set up Tyler, dust collector is on my wish list. right now i have a 3rd hand record power system which works but needs improvement. Previous owner never even used it.
Just had an idea.....you could cut a rectangular slot, top to bottom, in the black can and add plexiglass; this way you could see how full it is and when you need to empty.
+Miter Mike's Woodshop I think you will find it to be a good improvement, in separation but more in the increased airflow. Thanks for watching man and thanks for the shirt!!
Hey Tyler, great stuff. I'm confused why you put the filter underneath the dust separator donut rather than above it. All of your fine dust will get sucked to the filter and not to the bag. I know your dust deputy takes most of it out of play for you though. Thanks.
Blown to the filter, If the filter is clogged bag will expand. If the filter is OK allowing flow, the bag will be limp. Great way to know if you need a filter cleaning or change!!
I cheated on mine, I just exhausted it to the outside of my shop and clean the pile up when it starts to get big. Great build as always Tyler. A share on Face Book for sure.
Great Video. One thing I noticed is you did not talk about grounding your dust collection. Airflow through the ducting produces static electricity which can ignite dust.
Thanks for sharing, Tyler! This is exactly the kind of mod I was looking for. I have the same dust collector and recently bought the Oneida SDD Cyclone. My original thought was simply to connect the SDD inline and later find a way to install a better filter. Your modifications have given me some ideas to make that happen sooner rather than later.Billy B.
I have the small dust deputy attached to my Shop vac, which works great, but really want to step up to your dust collection rig, Harbor Freight and Oneida here I come. I guess I can figure out how to make your setup, but if you could post a drawing or two it would be a big help to this neophyte retiree woodworker.
+Jim Challender Jim, if you would send me an email (DIYTyler@gmail.com) I can send you the very basic drawing I made to build off. No measurments or anything since I measured and cut based off the collector and cyclone. You will LOVE having a big system, so nice. Thanks for watching Jim!
Good job! I'm curious how this holding up 6 years later.. I'll be using this video as a guide, but I intend to do a few things differently.. I'll be using the Donaldson P181038 filter which will save me about $100 over the Wynn filter. Also, I intend to use a 5 gallon bucket and screw adapter instead of a dust bag. Thanks!
Like your idea - I did some what the same except I left the Plywood square for the bag and filter, this way I could use all threaded rod to make it easier to remove the filter.
Great build. Suggest you put a foot levered wheeled platform below the trash can. This way it can be wheeled to empty and can be stepped up to raise it up and keep it in place.
Personally, to collect the finner particules I would make a spiral with pipe elbows at the end of the sucking pipe so that a second centrifugal filtering would happen at high flow velocity with a tight radius ( Gforce= V/Rsquare) . This way the dust would go down the spiral back in the bucket and the air would go up. This spiral would be inside the bigger bucket so a lot of space would be saved.
I was running my harbor freight dust collector with only flex hose on the floor, but ijust picked of 3 carpet tubes for free. the diameter is 4 inches so I plan to use then for my dust collection system. now I only need to buy fittings
You can clean installed bag filters by holding them up and blowing compressed air into the bag , in the reverse of the normal flow. Dust falls to the bottom.
I was watching another channel wherein he mentioned that the manufacturer had specced a five foot horizontal minimum before going vertical on the cyclone. He had a six inch main run pipe (PVC) with four inch drops. Have you heard of that requirement? I plan to put my collector in a corner much like yours so it is of interest if that is necessary. He was using a clear cyclone more of a horizontal design, the name of which I do not recall. They also made clear blast gates and accessories. Take care. Doug
+Braxton Wirthlin It makes such a HUGE difference! Made a mess when I was cutting the parts for this without having the collector. Thanks for watching Braxton.
Great video! You could have screwed the wood motor mount to the frame while it was flat on the table, and then it would have been easy to tip it up into place and screw it to the wall, but then we wouldn't have seen your lovely wife. :-) I see your kids are learning their way around the shop. I hope your wife was watching them because at 4:50 they are checking out the paint.
Best video yet. Will be using most of your good ideas especially on mounting brackets. Have you had good luck with your dust barrel your using? Most everyone using these trash type cans are having collapsing problems with the plastic.
Looks like a good system but you might want to look into reducing the number of 90 degree elbows and flex duct that you are using as they are some of the biggest reducers of airflow.
A pipe coming out the top of the lid you have on the final stage and piped outside through that window you have boarded off would save your filter a lot and keep your airflow less restricted. you would still catch the big stuff, but the super small dust particles would just get shot outside.
Good video, especially with the kids and pet walking around, reminds me of when I am in the shop and my three kids and the dog are all in there. I need to make something like that. But not as large, being that I move every 4 years or so. Subscribed!
Hi Tyler. I'm going to upgrade my own dust collecting system , and the cyclone is lying around some place waiting. I think You and some other people makes great instructive vid's . And they all are going at it more or less the same way. It seems that You all think out the construction as You go. This means that You crawl around the system, gluing upwards, screw in impossible positions etc. I only ask: Why do You not assemble the parts fully on the working bench where You are able to turn the parts around to obtain a optimal workingposition, and then hang up the assembly on the wall? Your system is state of the art, but You learned me that I will assemble the different parts and then hang it to the wall. Yet another idea I got looking on Your work: I thing I will use some vibration cussions for the motorunit, cause I think that the whole wall will sing when You turn on the blower, and maybe some incapsulation of the unit with noise damping plates, i have seen some woodworkers do that. This not a critic, as I wrote, it is a very nice video, and I like Your children toddling around in Your shop
A wife that helps in the shop. Such a lucky guy.
This taking from I've watched from Stumpy Nubs and adding the power of the Cyclone from Oneida. The one difference is that you leave the dust bag as is where Stumpy Nubs cuts his bag and dumps it into a five gallon pail with a trash bag. Although with the cyclone you are going to get far less debris in the bag requiring less replacements. Just the same, I like his idea as the heavy duty bag will break down over time from removing the metal clamp that keeps it in place. That simple modification to yours would prevent the you from ever needing to replace the heavy duty plastic bag. I am picking up the Harbor Freight Dust Collector next weekend, and I plan to do a combination of what you have here with the modifications Stumpy Nubs did. Thanks for sharing. This was an excellent contribution.
Love that your kids are with you while you work.
The thing I like most about this video is that his family is a part of it - hits real close to home!!!
Yeah, I like his little woodworkers in training.....
@@michaellovetere5122 and the supervisor (cat).
Hey, being a Dutchman myself, I love your sweatshirt. I did something similar with a HarborFreight dust collector. The on/off switch will wear out quickly and more specific to replace. Wire your dust collector through a common wall switch in a more accessible area and leave the motor switch on. A proactive problem elimination.
One of the most accessible DIY upgrades to fairly serious dust collection system that I have seen.
I'm Tim Royal
This was a great instructional. I used it to convert my single stage Grizzly dust collector into a two stage system. I made 3 key alterations though. 1. My air filter is mounted on top of the out flow and the bag below the outflow. I also used a paddle air filter that you can hand crank the paddle which flaps internal paddles against the air filter knocking dust out. 2. When I used a rubber trash can the air suction was so great it crumpled the can causing the upper seal to be breached. I upgraded to a metal can for a more rigid structure to with stand against suction implosion. 3. Once I upgraded to a metal can the wood feet used to hold up the can no longer worked well because the rubber can could flex a bit into its upper lid - the metal can wouldn't and kept falling when trying to put the feet in place. As well, the upper lip of the metal can being much more rigid caused some air gaps. To make it mount with a good seal I used toggle/pull latch clamps - the latch/levers attached to the can and the catch/clamp part is attached to the outer edge of the upper wood lid. I use 4 of them equal distance around the lid and it pulls the can up nice and tight.
This is a great video. I really like that the family just walks around. It makes the video feel homely. Thank you.
"homey". "Homely" means ugly.
Well done. I love the way you overbuilt it and level of detail. You have to make it sturdy for those kids.
Thanks for this. You were the initial inspiration to make my own cyclone setup. I went with a 2hp Shop Fox blower, Oneida SDD, and Wynn filter. But Dick Wynn recommended the Gamma seal lid approach to make a threaded filter attachment, and I did that. Mounted to a custom plenum out of Baltic birch.
I kept hesitating, drowning in dust, because the space is so restricted. Garage door and track on one side, lumber rack on the other, and the electrical panel right in the middle.
I haven't done this myself yet but a friend helped a guy put copper wire inside his plastic dust collector system. The claim is static discharge can cause a fire within the pipe. I did notice static in my piping so it's on my radar to add grounding wires. Nice build thanks for posting.
Thanks for taking the time to document your dust collector build. I've checked out other designs but I will be basing my build on your design. I like how you stack the cartridge filter and plastic debris bag to minimize the over-all height of the assembly. Well done and much appreciated.
I have never seen a video of yours before. I am very impressed with your work. I really love the HIGH QUALITY work yet geared for an average budget. Great job. I just bought the same Harbor Freight unit. I'm waiting on my new planer to arrive. Can't wait to try them out.
I really like this setup. I talked to +MattCremona 6 months ago and he advised me not to waste money on a single stage dust collector unless I was going to convert to 2 stage collection. Best tip yet and I like your setup here.
+Bill Hantzopoulos Yea, single stage systems are not good for a multitude of reasons. But, single stage is better than nothing! Thanks for watching Bill.
Great build. I have HP's DC, and I know if using a cartridge you have to get more of the large dust/chips out of air stream (than a typical single stage can) to keep them from clogging it. This is a really nice solution to that problem. Best one I've seen yet.
+bryce johnson Thanks man! It has been a huge addition to the shop.
Just got a HF dust collector from Santa....haven't used it enough to get frustrated yet but when I do, that's gonna be my project! Thanks man
Sweet! Shoot me a picture when you finish it up!
Tyler, nice video and a great help. I made a couple of tweaks due to space issues in my shop. At 12:40 when you were pushing your wedges in to raise your collector can, I have a 2x3 block against the wall to allow more clearance. I also glued a 3/8" plywood disc on the bottom of my can to add strength and act as a bit of a skid plate. Again thanks for the great idea and explanation. Love the family helpers too!
I have to say. I have watched a lot of dust collector videos and yours is by far the best. I would like to ask you some more questions
I Love the safety (PPE) you are using, especially for the Little Dude!! Protect his hearing for years to come. Because he will learn to use the PPE later in life!! AWESOME!!AWESOME!!
This is timely as I am adding dust collection to my shop in a few weeks. I was going to go with single stage, but two stage would be more economical and effective in the long run. Thanks for doing the grunt work for me Tyler.
2 stage is without question the way to go and making it yourself will be, at most, about half the cost of getting a ready made one. Glad I could help, and good luck!
Very nice modification and build. I think the shop assistants and inspectors did a great job as well.
+MRrwmac They did a great job with this build...all of them! Thanks for watching.
Awesome job! Some of the best woodshop engineering I've seen.
Nice job! I just put in a Super Dust Deputy and have been delighted. Next step is to upgrade from a bag to a pleated filter. Thanks!
+bradsnyder66 It makes a huge difference doesn't it! Thanks for watching!
Great build and well produced. High praise all around. And...YOU USED A TRIPOD!!!! Yeah!!
The ONLY suggestion in would make is to use T-nuts on the back of the plywood used to mount the motor. I think it would make installation easier and, in the event that you need to service the motor, easier to disassemble for service.
One of the best videos I have yet to come across...unless you're dropping $5K on an Oneida system!. I plan on venting directly to the outside. Great job, my friend!!!!
I love the whole family and the cat helping out.
That's awesome! Almost exactly what I want to do.. thanks for doing the planning work!
Also.. you're a good dad, letting your kids play in the shop with you!
+djAnakin Awesome, glad to have helped! Thanks for the comment about having the kids around, reassuring. Thanks for watching.
@@DIYTyler with the hearing protection? Love it!
Dang, dude's got a wife, 2 kids and cat walking around him while he's working on his project.. Can definitely tell you love what you do haha. Certainly earned my sub.
Thanks Matt! Hope you enjoy the content!
I know I'm commenting on a super old video... but just seeing your wife properly use that driver melted my heart. #shearealone
Been fighting a DC3300 for a couple of months. It doesn't have enough suds. Just bought this one today for 170$. Thanks for the info Boba Fett. Heading down this road I'm sure. Great video!
This is the best version of the HF DC upgrades I've found. Think we have a future project -- running a large Thien Baffle configuration ATM. Thanks!!
+Jake B Thanks for the great comment Jake! Glad you liked it.
This is a very nice dust collection system with good ideas and some thought in keeping the cost down. Thanks for sharing!
This is the best mod video I've seen for the Harbor Freight collector. I would love to know how you feel about it a few years later.
I woulf second that
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5th request on the follow up!
Love this idea. I want to do this with my Penn State dust collector. Same design as the HF pretty much. Only thing I might want to do differently is a flexible coupling between the cyclone and the bin to be able to lift the lid for emptying.
This modification would work great with the Penn State....they probably come from the same factory!
LOL with the kids and cat, this is how my shop works as well. Always plenty of interested helpers. Great stuff!
Nice build. Gonna have to give a setup like that a try. Next time if you don’t have help hanging something heavy like that motor you can throw a fence cleat and it can hold the board for you while you drive the screws. 👍🏽👍🏽great video
Cool I must build this, Also after owning Milwaukee,Makita and Craftsman cordless drills and dis satisfied with all of them I bought the Ridgid Drills and for the past 3 years have had much better battery life than the 3 mentioned .
+boatbuilder1 Awesome! Have been really pleased with my RIDGID tools. You really need to check out their new stealth force impact....it is incredible. Thanks for watching!
I like mounting the motor directly to the cyclone rather than run extra flex hose between the two. Great job!
Tyler I loved your video. I want to make a set up just like yours except using the bucket instead of the bag at the bottom of the filter. I also like the other companion video you made to this with all the links. Great set up and a very thorough explanation! You took your time and made everything very easy to understand.
Thanks again.
Thanks for watching man!
Should ALWAYS acknowledge you able assistants, keeps them Available for later jobs! Ladies like That!
Hey Tyler, I built my dust collection the same way and all the chips are going into the bag and not the can.
Thanks Mike.
Want to thank you for this unique set up. I’m so glad I found this. It should serve to solve my space limitation problem. I also took a look at Jeremy's set up on Guy's Woodshop who is also inspiring me. I'm surprised we don't see the filter installed like you did, more often, since in your configuration the filter does not have to be above a standard ceiling height and there's a straight connection between the blower and the Dust Deputy and the blower and the impeller. This seems like a more efficiently designed set up. I’ll hang the impeller by turning the support legs upwards and mounting them on the ceiling, but I’ll
have to have someone shorten the legs and weld the mounting plates back on. I’ll
mount the blower and impeller as high as possible so the run from the Dust
Deputy can be as high to the ceiling as possible also.
What I’d like to know is, can’t the lid on top of the impeller be a simple thin piece of plywood just caulked in place if I’m supporting the impeller with the included legs? And
would you have designed the attachment of the filter to the impeller any other
way, now that you have been using the system?
Thanks for your ingenuity and expertise.
- Jake
Jake, thanks for watching out stuff. After making this video Wynn (company that makes the filter) has come up with a few clever clips that allow easier removal of the filter, if you ever needed to....I haven't, if I was do build this again that is the only thing I would change. This system works excellent.
Great video Tyler. I was about to search how to convert a single stage to a cyclone, when I came across yours. Appreciate your video. !
Massive upgrade from the original! Makes me want to upgrade mine now.
This is really awesome man. Thank you for showing how you converted this dust collector into a much better system. I really want to improve the dust collection in my shop and this shows how I could make it happen. 🙂
Nice setup. I've been debating what to do with my setup. Currently my HF collector is in use in it's original design. I like this.
+Stone and Sons Workshop Not a single chip made it though the cyclone so far....think its going to be a big help!
Nice job Tyler. Great Idea you had mounting the dust collector.
+Mike Winslow Thanks Mike!
Awesome build! I added a remote start- stop switch and found it cutting down on run time and remembering to turn it on.
+konaok1 I have several switches around the shop but I think I still may go with a remote that I can have on my person all the time. Thanks for watching man!
Good job Tyler. Thanks for sharing. One future tip your viewers might want to consider... using french cleats to hang the motor unit, instead of permanently attaching it to the wall. It's a solid but temporary way to secure heavy items to a wall, with the flexibility to move easily later.
Very cool. Just bought a used jet dust extractor and oneida cyclone. Thanks for these great tips. YOU DA MAN!
The Harbor Freight 2 HP unit already separates dust. That is why the bag is in on the top - so dust falls into the bottom after the integrated cyclone separator. There is even a divider between the two halves and it spins the air under the separator.
I have a filter with a solid end. I am going to look at drilling some holes to allow the dust to drop through to the bag.
Like your videos Tyler! I did a similar thing a year ago but wasn't happy with the air being recirculated even with a 1 micron pleated cartridge filter so vented it outside, works a treat!
+David Stanton If I wasn't in the basement I may have vented outside as well but many people can't so this appeals to a larger group of woodworkers! Thanks for watching!
David Stanton - I'm thinking of doing the same thing - venting to the outside. But, what did you do to provide a safe inbound air flow that would support the impeller driven venting? I'm in the basement with oil-burning furnace (common in New England, USA).
Dave, take care. Some express concern that venting a basement shop outside may result in pulling furnace gases such as carbon monoxide into your shop. I am not an engineer so I can not confirm with authority, but I would investigate.
Wow! It works so well. I was skeptical at first but... you said it works really well.
i have a single stage 2hp Jet DC, but after watching this video, i have a feeling i will soon have a 2 stage 2hp Jet. :) thanks so much for taking the time to make this video. i am inspired. -JD
+Jeremiah Dunnick Awesome. Might have something to help you out with that....will update you when I hear back. Thanks for watching!
+Tyler G , thanks.
Any ideas or tips would be very welcome. As soon as it gets a bit warmer i'm adding a 8'x8' extension on the back of my shop to house the dust system. it will have a return into the shop itself so the ac/heat wont be lost. improving my dust system, as well as running more permanent duct work is the next step. Your DC upgrade is exactly what i want to do.
Great job Tyler! That looks like a very nice set up indeed. Those filters are a PITA to clean, so that vortex unit essentially eliminates that job. I have a similar set up & love it. Steve
+Sapele Steve Good to know, thanks for watching Steve!
Excellent video and process. Thanks for sharing. It must be great to have some helpers in the shop. Great system...
Great video - thanks! Your approach to dust collection is almost exactly what my plan is going to be over the next month or so.
+Lou Stanley Thanks for watching Lou!
Very nice. I gave up on my single stage and went with a cyclone. Wish I would have seen an idea like this before I bought a new machine.
+Ben Brubaker This is certainly a bit less expensive but your system is probably more powerful.....I suppose it really depends on what kind of performance you are after! Thanks for watching Ben.
Nice project, Tyler! That looks like it will be a significant improvement.
+njryan415 So far so good, thanks for watching!
Great set up Tyler, dust collector is on my wish list. right now i have a 3rd hand record power system which works but needs improvement. Previous owner never even used it.
+Craig Pereira Thank Craig. DC make such a difference, forgot how bad it was without one!
Just had an idea.....you could cut a rectangular slot, top to bottom, in the black can and add plexiglass; this way you could see how full it is and when you need to empty.
Yup, definitely want to do that at some point.
Nice Tyler, i have a two stage lid from woodcraft, but soon i was looking to convert over to a full 2 stage system like this. Thanks.
+Miter Mike's Woodshop I think you will find it to be a good improvement, in separation but more in the increased airflow. Thanks for watching man and thanks for the shirt!!
Awesome upgrade! I really like my super dust deputy and HF duct collector. Keep up the good work!
+Mike Merzke Glad to know your pleased with your system Mike. Thanks for watching!
Tyler, Great to see a no nonsense video as good as this!
Thanks David!
Hey Tyler, great stuff. I'm confused why you put the filter underneath the dust separator donut rather than above it. All of your fine dust will get sucked to the filter and not to the bag. I know your dust deputy takes most of it out of play for you though. Thanks.
Blown to the filter, If the filter is clogged bag will expand. If the filter is OK allowing flow, the bag will be limp. Great way to know if you need a filter cleaning or change!!
Usually due to limitation on celling height would be my best guess.
Thanks for the video dude. Im going to be installing dust collection in my shop as my next "shop upgrade" big help man. Thanks again.
I cheated on mine, I just exhausted it to the outside of my shop and clean the pile up when it starts to get big. Great build as always Tyler. A share on Face Book for sure.
Do you dump everything outside! Lol, that's awesome! Thanks for watching and sharing Marc.
Everthing. Just have to clean it up once a week.
Great Video. One thing I noticed is you did not talk about grounding your dust collection. Airflow through the ducting produces static electricity which can ignite dust.
Thanks for sharing, Tyler! This is exactly the kind of mod I was looking for. I have the same dust collector and recently bought the Oneida SDD Cyclone. My original thought was simply to connect the SDD inline and later find a way to install a better filter. Your modifications have given me some ideas to make that happen sooner rather than later.Billy B.
+alamocdc Awesome, glad to help man!
I have the small dust deputy attached to my Shop vac, which works great, but really want to step up to your dust collection rig, Harbor Freight and Oneida here I come. I guess I can figure out how to make your setup, but if you could post a drawing or two it would be a big help to this neophyte retiree woodworker.
+Jim Challender Jim, if you would send me an email (DIYTyler@gmail.com) I can send you the very basic drawing I made to build off. No measurments or anything since I measured and cut based off the collector and cyclone. You will LOVE having a big system, so nice. Thanks for watching Jim!
Great build! And a family effort: even the cat...
Note you did the pocket screw holes earlier for the filter bracket!
Good job! I'm curious how this holding up 6 years later.. I'll be using this video as a guide, but I intend to do a few things differently.. I'll be using the Donaldson P181038 filter which will save me about $100 over the Wynn filter. Also, I intend to use a 5 gallon bucket and screw adapter instead of a dust bag. Thanks!
Great job Tyler!! Nice setup!
+Make it Extreme Thanks George!
Like your idea - I did some what the same except I left the Plywood square for the bag and filter, this way I could use all threaded rod to make it easier to remove the filter.
+Joe Holt Cool idea man! Thanks for watching.
Great idea tyler, congrats. Very nice how you level the bin with the splines. It could be so easy👍
Thanks man! Want to come up with something a bit more clever but we will see!
if 4 screws will hold it....20 will hold it better!
Great build. Suggest you put a foot levered wheeled platform below the trash can. This way it can be wheeled to empty and can be stepped up to raise it up and keep it in place.
+Brian MacConnell Definitely want to put in something like you suggested, will be easy and pretty neat! Thanks for watching Brian!
Personally, to collect the finner particules I would make a spiral with pipe elbows at the end of the sucking pipe so that a second centrifugal filtering would happen at high flow velocity with a tight radius ( Gforce= V/Rsquare) . This way the dust would go down the spiral back in the bucket and the air would go up. This spiral would be inside the bigger bucket so a lot of space would be saved.
I was running my harbor freight dust collector with only flex hose on the floor, but ijust picked of 3 carpet tubes for free. the diameter is 4 inches so I plan to use then for my dust collection system. now I only need to buy fittings
+TechMechanic Sweet, sounds like a good score!
Great video. I'm upgrading my HF dust collector and wondered where you purchased the upgraded dust filter.
I'm not DIYTyler, but I did a similar project with a filter from these guys. wynnenv.com/product-category/cyclone-filter-pricing/
Great video. Has been five years, how has the system held up? You should make a current review.
You can clean installed bag filters by holding them up and blowing compressed air into the bag , in the reverse of the normal flow. Dust falls to the bottom.
You really helped me as I've now got basically the same system installed. Thanks sir!
My grandbabies are always out in the shop with me.... they love driving nails into a block of wood.. good practice for them..
Good for them! Thanks for watching Tom.
Nice project. Looks like you have plenty of quality shop helpers too. Some two legged and some four legged. JimE
Lots of help walking around! Thanks for watching Jim.
Nice job Tyler! I'm sure that it will work much better for you in the long haul.
+GuysWoodshop I hope so....your videos were helpful!
its been a month, if not too much trouble can you remove the filter or stick the camera in it to see how clogged, if any, it is?
I was watching another channel wherein he mentioned that the manufacturer had specced a five foot horizontal minimum before going vertical on the cyclone. He had a six inch main run pipe (PVC) with four inch drops. Have you heard of that requirement? I plan to put my collector in a corner much like yours so it is of interest if that is necessary. He was using a clear cyclone more of a horizontal design, the name of which I do not recall. They also made clear blast gates and accessories. Take care. Doug
Awesome set up, Tyler! Doing a serious dust collection upgrade is definitely on my to do list this year!
+Braxton Wirthlin It makes such a HUGE difference! Made a mess when I was cutting the parts for this without having the collector. Thanks for watching Braxton.
Great video! You could have screwed the wood motor mount to the frame while it was flat on the table, and then it would have been easy to tip it up into place and screw it to the wall, but then we wouldn't have seen your lovely wife. :-) I see your kids are learning their way around the shop. I hope your wife was watching them because at 4:50 they are checking out the paint.
DiyTyler, Keeping screw manufactures' in business since 2016.
Definitely a family affair! Wife, two kids (that I counted), one cat (that I counted). Dog? Ferret?
Nice job. Love the Orbital Mechanics podcast playing in the background.
+Eric Cole Good ear man! Yea that podcast is full of goodness. Thanks for watching Eric.
Best video yet. Will be using most of your good ideas especially on mounting brackets. Have you had good luck with your dust barrel your using? Most everyone using these trash type cans are having collapsing problems with the plastic.
Looks like a good system but you might want to look into reducing the number of 90 degree elbows and flex duct that you are using as they are some of the biggest reducers of airflow.
A pipe coming out the top of the lid you have on the final stage and piped outside through that window you have boarded off would save your filter a lot and keep your airflow less restricted. you would still catch the big stuff, but the super small dust particles would just get shot outside.
Then I blow all the heat outside.....not a good idea in Michigan.
Good video, especially with the kids and pet walking around, reminds me of when I am in the shop and my three kids and the dog are all in there.
I need to make something like that. But not as large, being that I move every 4 years or so.
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Hey thanks for the sub and the kind words man....really appreciate it!
great job. I did the same thing using the small harbor freight red dust collector and the dust deputy.
Cool! This is just scaled up.Thanks for watching!
Hi Tyler. I'm going to upgrade my own dust collecting system , and the cyclone is lying around some place waiting. I think You and some other people makes great instructive vid's . And they all are going at it more or less the same way. It seems that You all think out the construction as You go. This means that You crawl around the system, gluing upwards, screw in impossible positions etc. I only ask: Why do You not assemble the parts fully on the working bench where You are able to turn the parts around to obtain a optimal workingposition, and then hang up the assembly on the wall?
Your system is state of the art, but You learned me that I will assemble the different parts and then hang it to the wall. Yet another idea I got looking on Your work: I thing I will use some vibration cussions for the motorunit, cause I think that the whole wall will sing when You turn on the blower, and maybe some incapsulation of the unit with noise damping plates, i have seen some woodworkers do that. This not a critic, as I wrote, it is a very nice video, and I like Your children toddling around in Your shop