Brent Spiner, LeVar Burton and Jeri Ryan - Star Trek Comicpalooza Panel
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Renegade Geek - Convention Junkies
I grew up watching Reading Rainbow and Star Trek so going to this panel was a no brainer. Data fan should love this as Brent Spiner kinda steals the show with his impeccable comedic with and timing. LeVar and Jeri held their own in the best Trek panel I've attended. I would like to thank the Comicpalooza AV team, with out their assist this video wouldn't have gotten made.
Update: video cut out for whatever reason here's what's missing • Why Star Trek Nemesis ... - Фільми й анімація
The last part is here sorry that it got cut off. ua-cam.com/video/YOB0_T6sVjA/v-deo.html live long and prosper my friends.
Thanks for uploading! And great job on the editing. :-)
Live Long And Prosper 🖖
12:44 did she say " im an easy lay anyway" Lol
I saw movie with a very young Jeri. I think she was the last girl on Earth and there was this dweab.
DATA x seven of nine rule 34
Watching Star Trek is like wrapping up in a warm blanket when your cold.
I’ve never heard a better way to sum up watching Star Trek
Very poetically put
I just rotate between TNG, DS9 and Voyager. Anyone have suggestions for other series that have the same comfort level?
@@Raindropsinvalencia try enterprise with capt jonathan archer. I love all the star trek series but especially the 3 you mentioned.
Yes! Well said.
3 great people, talented, funny and seem genuine.
We all prefer to think so. The I consider they're actors, and they're getting paid.
Brent has really grown into the whole fandom thing.
I had the pleasure of meeting him at a convention in the early 1990s. He was on a panel about moving comics into movies and afterward, a lot of us went up to him for autographs and to say hello. He was amazed at how popular he was.
WOW!
That's such a lovely story ❤
My god that woman is 51 years old. Jeri Ryan is just something special.
51 is young if you have the right kind of mind
That is one lucky hubby seriously
@@jayr9952 I have a reprobate mind, what's my future like?
@@asherdie The outlook for you is *slowly shakes head
@@jayr9952 good, things haven't changed.
23:05 What Brent Spiner said about people with Asperger's Syndrome really touched my heart. I have Asperger's myself and I relate to Data so much, so to hear him say how much it means to him to hear that sort of thing from people is very touching. It's one of the reasons why Mr. Spiner is an inspiration for me. :)
Nxghts Wait, really? I hope that doesn’t get annoying. I’m just a big fan. 😂😂😂
Olagonin Chancer What’s that supposed to mean?
Umbra Magna don’t listen to him. Feel free to procreate as much as you want
"aspergers" is a bullshit term made up by a nazi doctor to literally determine which autistic people would be allowed to live and which would be murdered based on his social and 'racial' criteria
as an Asperger, I can really relate
I have a Star Trek Online character named Feordi La Gorge and his ship is named Reading Rainbow.
I want Data back. He has made so much progress with his humor chip
Well, got your wish.
st0ox and also he now handles contractions so well
st0ox even uses pauses like and uh err
Meto
To be honest, he was the only good thing in Star Trek Picard.
born 63 so I grew up with Captain Kirk. ,I watch all of them to this day ,and I'm glad they made these in 90-s ...
LeVar is well known for Reading Rainbow, Roots and Start Trek:TNG. Well all around, well respected, accomplished actor, but you don't have to take my word for it.
Take a deep breath before we begin.
Jeri Ryan is such an incredible woman. Stunning, charming, funny and with a laugh that is super infectious.
She also has a very strong character. Refer above...
So many of the comments here are about Jeri but personally I’m just happy to see Levar, as well as know that I got to shake the dudes hand. What a nice person
Female and gorgeous. In these ST cast groups she will always be the center of attention.
The StarTrek franchise saved my life now that I think of it.
I went through a terrible depression that lasted all the way through my teenage years. Living alone with my dad was not easy , and I was under constant rejection from social groups at school. Knowing I had NextGen , DS9 and then Voyager to look forward to gave me what little hope that kept me from loosing control and taking my own life.
A huge THANKS to all those that contributed to these shows and its fandom :-)
Live long and prosper.
Ben Stiller said at some Star Trek anniversary celebration that he went through the exact same thing as a young man and Star Trek got him through it. Actually I've heard a lot of people saying the same thing.
Who wants to feel old? At the time of this episode, the oldest regular cast member, Patrick Stewart (Picard) was 47. The youngest cast member Wil Wheaton (W. Crusher) was 15.
This July (2019) Will Wheaton will celebrate his 47th birthday.
Will turning 47 doesn’t make me feel old. The fact that I am now older that Patrick Stewart was when I first saw him as Captain Picard... that makes me feel old.
Tanya Engesser he actually looked about 32 which is very young
Brent Spiner was 38 in 1987.
Patrick Steward was 45 in 1987.
@@tejo29se Patrick Stewart was born in 1940. That makes him 47 in 1987. No idea why Brent's age has anything to do with this.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart
The only thing more frightening that that is when you can vividly recall watching the premiere episode.
Brent is such a joker but he was nice to the teen girl who was afraid to ask anything. Very cool.
Who'd have thought that only four years later, these three would all be working together aboard USS Titan in season 3 of Picard?
I sometimes wonder if they knew at this point.
Brent is such an amazing person, he is funny, sharp and very responsive to the audience. Great show and answers. I like the friend ship between Brent and lavar. Brent is a live wire and born comedian.
Woah, a comment admiring someone else instead of Jeri lmao
Jeri Ryan still hot after all these years.
agreed. Like a fine wine.
#truth
I was going to say the exact same thing. Haha!!!
She looks exactly like everyone else
I never noticed before Jeri has a million watt smile!
Thanks for putting this up. Spiner and Burton are hilarious. And Jeri Ryan is so sharp; and there's this deep nurturing side to her. A show with all three of them would be so fab.
Someone asked about The Orville and if they would consider being on an episode. The doctors from Voyager (Robert Picardo) and Enterprise (John Billingsley) were both in the same episode of The Orville, called "Home".
Brent is SERIOUSLY hilarious.
The scene Jeri described with 7 discovering laughter for the firs time... woulda been great to see.
Futile or not, I would not resist Jeri Ryan.
I'd say it's absolutely futile trying to resist her
Resist? I'd run to surrender to her!😆
That's "futile".
How objectifying. Did you learn nothing from a Star Trek.
It didn't really occur to me when STV was running, but wasn't she kind of like a Space Dominatrix? Ha. "Comply!" was her favorite line too.
I remember Brent Spiner's recurring character on Night Court. In particular the episode where he translated for the Hispanic woman as she gave birth to triplets.
Bob and June Wheeler, ya Yugoslavian recidivist knuckleheads, you! What the heck brings you by?
When they bob and june started a worm farm and were seduced by all the glamour
es el "Bob"
I remember the hispanic lady but not him.
@@annasloan2349 lol 'the glamour of it all'
The host is FAB, his questions are on topic though. Thank you for uploading.
Brent and Levar and Jeri have aged wonderfully ! They looked really good .
Love these three I hope to see more from them.
The class in this room...We need more of this.
Jeri Ryan is my girl crush from the Star Trek universe that has aged the best. Wowsers 👌❤
Jeri Ryan always looks beautiful because the nanoprobes keep her young.
7 of 9? .....More like 10 of 10
More like six of nine
25 of 10.
Brett Spiner is such an accomplished Actor. As Data he do many Amazing Rolls. Plus he did a part on INDEPENDENCE DAY . Plus 2--3 Star Trec movies.
Even more like 6 of 9
More like 11/10
Jeri Ryan is still so freaking gorgeous!
Much more entertaining than many I've seen. Thanks for the upload.
I'm glad they're still doing Star Trek conventions...I'll sulk for eternity when and if they should ever stop. Seeing as new Trek television shows are still being made, I'm guessing they'll keep going forever at this rate but...still...the true Star Trek episodes are and always will be the ones I grew up with (TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voyager). They'll never be topped. To see these actors still attending and truly enjoying their work is inspiring and I hope they keep attending conventions for as long as their legs will carry them...or come in a wheel chair if need be ;)
Yes, comparing this to Discovery is like comparing apples and oranges - the newest is nothing like the older series. Guess that why it is on CBS all access - it would not make it on television.
For me, Star Trek ended with Voyager's final episode, Endgame.
This is one of the best convention clips I've seen on YT. So funny and enlightening because the Q&A has questions I've not seen in other clips. Thanks, Renegade Geek.
Nice to see Jeri doing these conventions. I wish Jolene did them as well. She was my fav female actor in ST overall. Such a perfect display of both beauty and vulcan.
T'Pol 😍
I'd love to see Jolene doing these but I read somewhere she married a multi billionaire and turned her back on the celebrity lifestyle completely
Thanks for uploading this Renegade. Appreciated.
Mr. Burton seems like THE most relaxed and confident man ever. He would have made an excellent psychologist...as well as being a master thespian. I highly recommend "Roots", the original version. He was soooo young and soooo full of talent and promise.
I deeply miss these characters, Roddenberry's optimistic view of the future and the story-telling full of moral dilemmas, only possible through the self-contained episodic format of old Star Trek.
Weimar Carvalho world is so depressing these days, it’s nice to watch something more optimistic
@humandxp You've not understood the series if you actually think that. Not at all.
@humandxp I don't know how to talk to you. I am just guessing here: you get your news from Fox.
Jeri is still a gorgeous Borg
She is stunning in every way; mentally, physically, and talent...ly. : )
She's a Shmorgish-borg.
Borgeous? hehe
You we'll be assimilated
No she’s not.
Jeri is like fine wine. She gets better with age.
Oh yes baby. You got that right!
@Leo Peridot As if Jeri couldn't. Look at the episode where she's playing the doctor having taken over Seven's body, and tell me she can't act.
You mean like mold.
Loved watching all of these actors. And as a father appreciate leVar Burton reading rainbow on PBS
This was so uplifting, and funny, and entertaining. Much love to the actors and great questions from the audience.
Sometimes people miss what a good actress Jeri Ryan is. They get distracted by her appearance.
I'm sorry, what were you just saying?
Not the only time in the star trek universe, they hire what they think is eye candy and wind up with the best actor in the series.
Jeri Ryan looks great for being 51 years old. I can't believe how fast time flies, I mean it feels like yesterday that a 29 year old Jeri Ryan was playing as 7 of 9. Nostalgia hits you hard sometimes.
I realize that's a complement but when people add age is always seems to take one step back. I always figure, you either look good, or you don't.
@@krane15 You can still look good but let's not kid ourselves, we as a species and society generally find youth to be very attractive. Pick any beautiful 50 year old women in the world, past or present, she will never be able to look as attractive or compete for male attention at the same level as her 25 year old self. Some people age gracefully, while others don't but in either case they're still aging.
Jeri Ryan looks good when you consider her age, however if she looked the way she does now but it turned out she was 25 years old then most people would not find her very attractive, they would wonder if she's suffering from some disease or is on drugs.
@@03chrisv You not getting it, its an age prejudice. Would you look at a 25 year old and say you look good -- for your age? What about a teenager? What about an infant? You would simply say the look good. Even though being young, does not guarantee you will be attractive.
Thing is, when you relate looking good in reference to youth, you're subconsciously implying that age makes people ugly. That may be true, but when connected to what is "interned as a compliment", in fact, nullifies that through the reminder that the first thing you recognize is that they are old.
In other words, you're saying they're old, but they look OK. I find it odd that people think they're giving others some huge compliment like that.
BTW, I'm not directing that specifically to you; rather, its one of those cultural habits that I've always found peculiar.
@@krane15 It's not age prejudice, it's acknowledging reality and accepting it for what it is. Youth is generally more attractive than being old, it's hard wired into our biology. Yes, some people can age gracefully but it doesn't change the fact that a beautiful 50 year woman can't compete with her 25 year old self in terms of sexual attractiveness and beauty. Jeri Ryan is still pretty, but let's not pretend that she wasn't prettier in her 20s.
You can't change reality based on some misguided sense of social justice and equality. I see the world for how it is, not how it ought to be in order to make everyone "feel better". If somone wants to interpret my comment as a back handed compliment then that's on them, I'm not going to cater to easily offended people that just want to find problems and make mountains out of molehills.
Levar always looks so weird with eyes.
Literally the only scenario when a sentence like that can make sense in this world.
Why doesn't he need his visor anymore?
James Smith Watch the last episode of TNG
Neutronic yup
He looks like a turtle
When the panel was asked about first working in entertainment, I was waiting for Brent to say that he was asked to play Data in a movie called " Data does Dallas " It would not have surprised me … Brent Spiner was very entertaining in this clip … As well as LeVar, and Jeri ...
Now I’m gonna go back and watch all the old TNG episodes and look for the “nods” between Jordy and Data! 😱. (I will never pass on an excuse to rewatch TNG!)
Really great video, thanks for uploading! Three of my very favorite Trek actors, and Mr Spiner was hilarious as always! I think my favorite bit was the exchange between Brent and Jeri about pronunciation (starting 52:38) - not only was it nice to see the two bouncing off each other, but we got some great trivia AND quotes of some classic lines! :)
Yeah that was funny Jeri interrupting Brent calling BS lol, also like the lady holding the 15 year grudge and Brent's reunion with his "son". I've seen Brent solo before and you're right it's better when the cast can interact and bounce stuff off each other.
Renegade Geek I think for me, the ultimate cast get-together would be all the cast of TNG but just them chatting in some kind of informal bar setting rather than on a stage, so they're not answering anyone's questions or trying to entertain, just having fun together. They wouldn't even need to be talking about Trek for it to be enjoyable!
I remember Soupy Sales on TV when I was a kid. I watched his show at every opportunity.
Jeri Ryan. Even with 50 years an incredibly good looking woman. As already said: 10 of 10.
50?! Wow I never would have guessed that.
10 of 10? No more a 7 of 9 :)
The why not simply say she looks good?
35:41 McKenzie is so adorable, bless her soul! 😊
I was 3 or 4 when I first got to sit up and watch a VOY episode with my dad. Apparently I was extremely concerned about Seven having the borg parts on her face lol
Thank you universe. This was awesome.
I wish I had seen this earlier but glad to find it now. I got verklempt when they sang the Reading Rainbow theme song. I'm old for it but I watched it with my kids.
The first introduction I had to LeVar was Reading Rainbow back in 95 in elementary school.
I've never seen such a nice and friendly cast
At 15:07 it's so strange to see LeVar holding a high-tech device and not knowing how to use it! :D
Total bliss watching this 😍 3 of my favourite characters ever!!!! ❤
I have loved all the Star Trek based series out there over time. They gave me a lot of enjoyment in my life. I hope they are all doing well in there personal lives and I will check out any new material that any of them may do one day in the future.
Huge thanks for this, one of the funniest / joyful things I've seen on youtube in ages and not just for the Trekkies, though context does help. Came here via a short Picard convention panel vid with Patrick Stewart, Jeri Ryan, Brent Spiner etc but my heart sank when I saw the length. Not any more, make it longer. I dont know if Brent ever did stand-up but he is a natural. Of course Jeri looks well, she is minus 300ish, the laughs, friendship and fun between them seems genuine and I guess thats part of what helps make ST continue with roles and characters reprised and revisited. If they hated each other, probably wouldn't happen. Have to say Brents cameo in Big Bang was so underwhelming I wasnt expecting this. They must have played him down for fear of upstaging the BB characters. I'd say Patrick and him must play off each other off screen. As for Levar, we didnt get Rainbow? but Roots was such a landmark series of a scale rarely to be matched, & so removed from Trek it says so much about his range. Nice to hear the full circle reference to William Shatner from Jeri, Boston Legal must have been a hoot.
Laugh Loud and Proliferate. ;)
I love all of them. Jeri, Lavar and Brent, Thank you.
and the overwhemling show of love for DSC was totally evident from the total of two cheers
Jeri Ryan is sweet, funny, and will live to be 237 years old at the rate she's aging.
It's great that Jeri's personality is cheerful and funny, considering what her ex-husband Jack did to her while she was filming Voyager...
@@marknorth8904 Apparently he wasn't only person who had given her hard time
@@piotrd.4850 Yeah, she and Katheryn did not along...
some of my childhood heroes which fromed me into the man i am today.
Shit.... I’m crying again.... I Love Data!
Too bad they didn't do anything with the "perceivers" that would have been awesome. Yeah Data was the best
I met Data (Brent) 6 times in passing at the Wells Fargo Bank in Larchmont Centre Los Angeles, California. He noticed me from previous passings I guess (I’m 6’7”tall, and hard to miss) and nodded to me. I gave him the ‘OK’ hand sign when passing him at the door. The unwritten bylaw of protocols pertaining to how to treat Hollywood Actors and Actresses is that you give them respect by not running up to them, screaming and acting like some old fashioned “Bobby Soxer”/Autograph Seeker/FanBoy-FanGirl/crazy person stalker, and give them some space and privacy. From what I’ve seen when briefly, he didn’t have to acknowledge my existence, being a total stranger. There are some Hollywood types that are ‘’Stuck Up’, aloof, full themselves, and are smug snotty elitists. I think he knew I wasn’t going to bother him, since I didn’t change my demeanor from the first two or three times we crossed paths. I think he’s a cool guy
I ran into Sean Astin in San Antonio, I froze pointed at him and all I could utter was, "it's you!" He shook my hand and hurried off LMFAO. I should have asked for a selfie or autograph but I guess was too starstruck.
Renegade Geek .... How would you like it if everywhere you go, you may get unwanted, undesired, time consuming, embarrassing, over the top hero worshiping, gushing panting, bug eyed, delirious, geeky, drooling fan person is now in your face and arms breadth human body space-.These people want a memento, your clothing, your hair, a photo-selfie.... it never stops.... and I can happen to you all day and every day you go into public. These people get this type of reaction all the time. The larger the fan base, the more your privacy dwindles,and I’m sure it’s draining. One wants to be polite, protect ones fanbase, keeping your popularity numbers up way high, these are areas of concern I’m sure, but when people approach you constantly, continually, unrelenting....it can wreak your last nerve. They folks all over you fawning, asking for favors... I mean anything goes with these people. They’d seen you on the screen, and think they know you, they’re crowding your space, and they want something from you. Leave the actor alone, they have enough to deal with as it is.
Then they shouldn't go into this line of work. Waaaaaaaaaa.
@Renegade Geek
> Reads a long comment about leaving actors alone
> Says he shouldn't have let actor alone and have asked for an autograph
You're not very smart are you?
I met him in London, he was the nicest guy - we talked some time about Germany (where I am from) and he made some jokes. Very kind, very down to earth. Same with Jeri Ryan, who tried to pull the beard of a friend of mine. Such nice guys, really. (I once met Shatner, he was quite.. Hurried, so to say)
These stars are so wonderful to watch and listen to. I really like how they interact with the fans. Star Trek would be such a pleasure and an honour to work on, even if only behind the scenes.
Truly inspiring to watch this and see the camaraderie between the three performers. The questions were excellent and the answers thoughtful and funny.
Man, Jeri Ryan is so classy and god damn beautiful! What a stunner!
I knew Spiner was funny, but I had no idea.
he's a dick
@@ryanpatterson7120 Explain.
@@gregh7400 ua-cam.com/video/v8L0tREvMEw/v-deo.html
He hates the fact that he's only remembered for being Data lololol
@@ryanpatterson7120 I see you lack the ability to understand the difference between being serious and joking around. I think that makes you the dick.
As my brother is on the autism spectrum(openly apologise to those who do not like that phrase), I understand what you were saying about the characters of data and seven of nine being popular with that branch of the community. However I like those characters simply because you have a character written as the straight guy trying to understand humour, and the next best thing to Aphrodite and Athena in one body put into a catsuit!
I could listen to jeri laugh all day, every day. I 💕 her laugh
Had to laugh at that first audience comment, when Burton was trying to take the selfie and failing. Here he was, renowned for playing this brilliant engineer, from the future, and he was having trouble taking a photo. Geordie would be horrified. :D
I love all of these actors, and it is awesome how funny they are!
"The Perceivers" would be a better Trek show than what CBS is producing now.... just pointing that out ...
DSC is an amazing show.
@@subraxas Might be . But it is not really very Treky now, is it...
I mean honestly and seriously, "amazing" is a bit too profound of a word to describe the show as a whole.
Certain aspects thereof truly are amazing for sure, but ultimately the show has been flawed.
It breaks continuity, some scripts (1st season) were obviously hastened and/or multiple-times re-written jumble, the folks therein do not behave and act like the typical "enlightened" Star Trek "super"-people from 23rd century, and the atmosphere often does not feel like proper ST, but I can personally put up with it.
It is still a pretty good, highly-above-average TV show. Overall, it's definitely better than the first two infamous seasons of TNG. And I am still able to re-watch even those and ENJOY them.
Is it available to watch?
i have always found it awesome that in tng data and geordi were best friends and over the years it has been clear that they are at the very least good friends in real life too.
Hahaha, that Reading Rainbow part was sweet and magical :)
Drake Steele my oldest daughter was quite young when both Reading Rainbow and ST TNG were in production (at least, I’m pretty sure RR was still making new episodes at the time)
Because we would let her watch TNG with us, she would see LaVar on RR during the week and ask me quite often “where’s captain? Where’s captain?”
I’ve met Levar on several occasions. He’s a family friend. I gave him a 15 Gallon Container Climbing Rose.... I tried to put it into his hatchback.... he snatched it from me, saying “ I Got It “ , and tossed it in back like nothing! He’s a cool guy. His wife Stephanie is gorgeous. A real lady!
I grew up watching reading rainbow LeVar influenced my love of reading.
@@RenegadeGeek me to I was kid watching it
Brent's impersonation thru the Patrick/Ian/Judy routine put me into stitches
Brebt's impersonation of Patrick Stewart is just spot on.
I didn't know Jeri was friends with Jonathan Del Arco (Hugh). That makes it so much cooler getting to see them act together in ST: Picard (versus in Voyager, Seven made friends with Hugh played by someone else). Glad they got to eventually film together.
Jeri Ryan..Hubba hubba. She still looks great.
The next ex Mrs. Larvar Burton? He will have to stand in line with Gibbs.
"Let's give people an hour of entertainment."
What a novel idea!
Ah, the good ol' days, what the hell happened?
Reality tv
I LOVED me some Reading Rainbow!!!
Hell yeah
"Two extremely old star fleet officers"... they knew the future.
They are all so funny and warm people, I love them even more if possibile!
Perhaps we can thank Jeri Ryan for the better quality episodes in the latter part of Voyager's run.
Actually, that would be the writes (the unsung heroes of any film), but she does lend her presence and unique talent to the role.
STNG was the best TV series ever. I always thought Jeri Ryan should have been on STNG. When they bring it back and they really should,, Jeri should have a major role. One of the great things about the show was the chemistry among the actors. it is that subtle and difficult to describe quality that makes the viewer feel like they have just been able to eavesdrop on a real situation instead of just watching people at work. It also helps that they look like they are having loads of fun doing the show. At the end of most episodes, I was left with a positive, calm feeling, as though I had just seen something, fun and important. It was the "gold standard" of "enjoyable TV. I say "bring it back!" Somebody, please tell me some shows today that are fun, and enjoyable to watch. I liked the series "salvation,for many of the same reasons, except that they never really finished it as far as I know.
No one will Replace any of them. They all have Familes. Going thru all that again. May not be somthing they wanna do again.
How could you Fit. 7 of 9 on the same ship as Data & La Forge.
Miles Beam -you’re kinda getting your wish. New series in production Star Trek :Picard. Also staring Brent Spiner and Jeri Ryan, reprising their old but great characters.
This aged really well. Picard season 3 was great.
Cool! Jeri is really honest. I like that. Levar and Brent are funny haha.
I alwas have to remember, thats a lot of years going by since the times of TNG or VOY. And the actors already aged. But Jeri Ryan dont care, she is looking stunning. Wish I could marry her, but I dont wanna Borgbabys :-)
He's a god on that stage. All the major science dialogue pros of star trek in one place.
Damn Jeri. Even at an older age you are still fine as hell. Like that one dude down the street who has a fine mom that everybody is attracted to.
I've been living under a rock.... LeVar's walking with a cane now?! Man... time's flying fast! Crap, i'm getting old! :(
Same
Lavar looks awesome.
Jeri Ryan's laugh is a gift to humanity.
Does the MC realize he's re-enaacting "Galaxy Quest, " where the MC at that convention tries to insert himself into the narrative by telling everyone he was an extra in one episode?
We're doing episode 81? I die in episode 81!
Why do I get a déjà vu feeling while watching this video? I have a strong feeling I seen this already.
SIG442 were you there? Or is it similar to another panel you watched?
Give us The Perceivers!
That guy he thought me how to read in the morning and how to look at the stars in the evening
Reading rainbow 🌈
I am the hugest (non stalker) fan of Jeri Ryan, mostly as the character of 7 of 9. I like the fact that she is 8 months my senior.