he was not 52 when he did his first episode. LOL. He was born in '31 and TOS was released in 66 and filmed in 65. That makes him 34 for the first episode.
Jesus Christ no kidding. Hard to watch this insufferable dipshit make these people uncomfortable with his shitlibbery. I’m glad I skipped his shows. General consensus seems to agree that the franchise ended with ENT.
Gene Roddenberry created the concept and format of Star Trek but there were many other people from the production side who also gave their creative talents too. It was a team effort.
With the possible exception of Data, I don't think any character grew as much as Worf. I recall being really disappointed with him in the 1st season because it seemed as though his whole role was to growl a lot and get beat up so that we'd know how tough the bad guys were. It seemed like Michael Dorn spent most of that season just getting his ass kicked. And by the end, he was one of the best characters the show ever had.
All I want from Star Trek Discovery is an episode where the new crew encounters Reginald Barclay who preferably has been sent back in time through some artificial anomaly he has created by accident while doing research on wormholes or whatever. I don't care how they explain it. I just want Reg!
i definitely want him in one more trek movie to. and ive always said if they could bring in nimoy why not shatner...and then i read some quotes about well kirk is dead in the main timeline in star trek. yeah well george kirk is dead in yours but yet it was recently reported that hemsworth would be coming back star trek 4. so yeah those two things dont add up. so bring shatner back for more trek jj!!!!
Holy shit these questions ... the characters were diverse, we get it. Not once while watching Star Trek all those years did I think, "Wow, how cool is it that all these races can respect each other's differences and look past them to work as a team!" No. I just thought, "Klingons are cool. Romulans are cool. Vulcans are cool. The Enterprise is cool. Exploring is cool. Troy has perfect tits." Yes, there are progressive undertones in Star Trek, but stop shoving it in our faces and reminding us, "everyone is a different race!" because you REMINDING us all the time is what drives wedges between us.
I actually enjoyed the questions. At first I rolled my eyes, but whether one realizes it or not, the diversity in Star Trek is the ideal that everyone hopes for. And these days, with the multitude of crazy things happening, it is refreshing....and I really appreciate that.
+nailspine wel buddy lets see , you know star trek dark mirror? if we keep going how we are now we are more likely to end up there then the real star trek that we would all love, because in the dark mirror they dont give a shit if you are diffrent, becuase if you are you are less then them what is kinda how the world works now right? so atleast respect them for still having hope the world can end up good and not just fucked up as it is now, and not being like rasism is bad, they dont say that at all, just that we gotta respect all each another no mather the diffrence because if we dont, we can just start throwing nukes right now and just end the human race right now right here. but m8 if you like that idea more i see were you are coming from. because for me start trek has always been the perfect future of humans working together without having to hate someone for something simple, but find out why that person finds that important and try to respect and work with that. it hasnt always been possibly not even in star trek but you would always see them try.
We as Star Trek fans all agree with Roddenberry's vision for acceptance and equality, but this god awful panel quickly turned into a sermon. This gives me an idea of how Bryan Fuller is approaching this new series, and I'm not excited about it.
michaeloffgrid I don't hold any fan of Star Trek accountable to any social philosophy - if someone's a fan and at the same time they're a full-blown racist, I don't care. What concerns me is being beaten over the head with 'what's socially acceptable' when I'm just trying to enjoy me some science fiction. Take the crusades - one way or another - and flush it. (that's not specifically directed at you - I'm just saying in general lol) And yes, I echo your concern about the coming series. NOT interested if the agenda is to preach racial/social equality. I can appreciate the world view, but keep that shit in the background.
I would like to correct our host regarding the transporter. Picard said it best to Moriarty"Matter and energy are interchangeable." In other words the molecules are turned into energy then transported to their destiny and re assembled in their original pastern. No copy is maid. His assumption is based on an experiment that successfully copied a molecule using lasers. This experiment was nicknamed "The Transporter". It was later reverenced in 2000 version of The outer limits and again in the movie "The Prestige". But Gen's vision of the transporter was always moving matter in energy form from one place to another.
OMG... I love Scott Bakula!! I was obsessed w/Enterprise! I grew up w/Capt.Kirk, so naturally the Shat is THE Captain (there is NO other), but Capt.Archer is close to my heart.
It warmed up, which was good. I love these actors and the different series. Michael Dorn seems to be the most calm and confident among them. Jeri seems to be empathic - earlier in this video it appears to me like she's carrying their feelings and is worried for them. Brent Spiner also looked incredibly uncomfortable sitting next to Shatner, though eventually they had a couple of laughs together. I loved his imitation of Patrick Stewart. Scott Bakula seems lovely, and Jeri Ryan is delightful as always.
You can thank the writer's strike for all these vacuous celebrities and their "reality" TV shows. I wish we could get back to dialogue driven story telling.
The first one or 2 years the kardashians became big i just thought star trek became popular again. I just heard the name, i almost never watch tv. Then suddenly I realized they weren't the cardassians :)
Love how Shatner believes how important canon is, then in the coming years people who didn't have a clue about star trek went and savaged everything that came before it, simply because they could.
I know. Most entertainment panels are just promotional events with an interviewer and non-critical fans asking shallow soft questions. Very rarely does it become a seminar to discuss philosophy, social issues, politics. Gene Roddenberry would be proud.
Para mi, solo existía la serie original, y la next generation, me cerraba a ver Enterprise, pero... cuando empece a verla, cambio mi visión. Hoy pienso que Enterprise es la mejor, y el personaje de ARCHER con la interpretación de Bakula, es única e insuperable. Asi como fue NImoy = Spock. Sin dejar atras a TRIPP, Reed y T´pool, y el Doctor, son únicos. Como lo fue, Kirk-Spock y Bones,
I had to skip the into. Brian Fuller is extremely irritating. BTW respecting people is for everyone. Not just one group that claims to be virtuous by way of claims of victimhood.
+4TheRecord No. In the crappy alternate time-line Trek, he is probably about that age being still alive with Scotty losing his dog in a transwarp beaming accident. This new pay to watch ripoff of the fan movie Axanar he would probably closer to 80 give or take.
I really liked Dorn's closing comment on Spiner's closing scene in "The Offspring". I too think it was his finest performance of that character. Having an only child, an 18 yr old daughter of exceptional IQ, about to head out on her own, I can't bring myself to watch that show again for I do have an emotion chip.
While the moderator is well known and important to the franchise, I feel this panel would have been far more enjoyable had they not been so controlled. Most fans want to see the panel folks relaxed and free to share and interact with each other as well as the audience. So moderators are to structured. As well as what many have said, too political. Everyone gets it. We don't need to be beat over the head with the morals, ethics and diversities to be brought together. Etc etc. Most fans just want to see the panels having fun. As for posting of this panel, the sound was good! It is nice when one can hear clearly what is said by the panel members and audiences asking the questions.
@@kuunami It is the democratic society of Hollywood, thus, it is only logical for them to push their agendas and attempt to focus peoples minds towards their way of thinking. Which is a shame. This particular group that spouts words such as inclusion, tolerance and acceptance, does not exhibit those same aspects for people outside of their collective.
And he seemed to be aggressively pushing his own narrative/opinion/views on what Star Trek means to us and what the guests of the pane should talk about. In the end it feels to me like the whole goal of the panel was for him to tell us how "the upcoming series is soooo actual and focused on tackling current issues in our reality and society so watch it!" This makes it feel kinda forced. Now combined with the reveal of the new ship design... I really hope the story of the series is done better than the way Fuller did here, because so far I'm not sold on the show and that's comin' from someone who's been waiting for anything Star Trek in the main timeline since Enterprise went away and enjoyed every single Trek series so far.
Nick Searle no, I mean when someone finished answering a reply, or just being nearly done talking and maybe kinda lost the train of thought, the guy swoops in and either making a segway to again pushing some message that was in no way related to the question or the reply, or finishes up for the guest of the panel, independently from if the person was done or not with speaking. As for "Bill" (didn't knew you were that close) he got his own personality, people can love it or hate it, but if Fuller doesn't want to deal with his "dominating" of things, he simply shouldn't have invited him. Shatner is a bit of a loose cannon, so if you invite him, you should go in prepared for that. In any case a host of a panel shouldn't cut off the people on said panel and shouldn't twist things around, shouldn't try to give messages into the mouths of the guests of the panel. There is a way of maintaining structure and manage time constraints on an event without doing those things.
Rebbe Schneerson says like this, "Peace is not homogeneity. Peace does not mean that everyone thinks the same way. Peace is when there is plurality that finds a higher Oneness." We are one! Babylon 5's G'kar drove home this idea in his preamble to the Interstellar Alliance's "Declaration of Principles."
I think with any conventions you don't need a Host I think they just need the actors there and just have the fans line up for a questions I fine having a host where they stand there and start talking hopefully star trek conventions will return where fans can actually go to ones.
The last convention I visited was a Star Trek convention in Seattle back in I think 1990 with both Shatner and Nemoy...it was interested and impressive...cheers.
The MC appears to be misusing his office to soapbox inappropriately - He's making more statements than asking actual questions! (which is the MCs job) O~O
Brian Fuller the producer of STD. Man I should have watched this 4 years ago, it's absolutely prophetic. You can tell what is to come from this panel, oh boy.
I was thinking the exact same thing. So pompous and heavy-handed with his self-important mortality,bad opposed to Roddenberry and his joyous sense of adventure and humour alongside the morality plays.
I clicked on the video to watch my some of my favorite character actors talk about the show I love so much, and instead got 15 min of politics. Star Trek has always been political, but these days it’s so much more divisive. At least Picard season 3 has actually seemed to start feeling like Star Trek actually should. New Trek is not hopeful, it’s just dramatic, negitive, and preachy.
Having respect for someone's identity is fine but to say that I have to agree with what you feel about yourself is taking away my individuality I don't care what you call yourself or what you do it's your business but to attempt indoctrination of children to conform to what you think is fundamentally and morally wrong
That producer is pushing WAY too much how the new star trek will be "modern and utopian". It do sound good but the way he want to do say it over and over makes me worried that it wont be what he is selling
Brian Fuller seems to be missing the whole point about Star Trek. It's not a mission to be more politically correct than anything that has gone before.
Well, the leftists, like the LGBTQIAXYZ (and the kitchen sink), they are like the borg. They think they are perfect. They think they are the only thing that matters in the universe. They think you will join them, aka assimilated, or destroyed. They are like a plague. I think you get the picture. I lost a lot of respect for Scott Bakula with his response. You notice that they didn't ask the Shat to contribute on the leftist agenda loaded question? Why? Because he would've destroyed it and not broke a sweat.
Exactly what I took from this as well. And it leaves me pondering, if in the new series, they'll have any stories about a benevolent species taking in another species that are in trouble but have an entirely different and violent way of life. I'm curious to see the outcome in the Star Trek universe, if it will be the propaganda of alls well that ends well, or the reality of ending in a slow genocide of the benevolent species.
Thanks for having uploaded this, thanks Star TRek for existing and Bryan Fuller for being the wonderful person he is! (Happy birthday, Bryan, btw!) I teared up at various times watching this panel and especially at the end, when people held hands and everything. (Who is cutting onions here!??)
Really, how is identity under attack, how can something that is an agreement upon the diverse roles you take on in life even able to be under some form of threat? What anyone's "identity" is, at least according to specialists in that field (science > "i don't think so"), not an individual decision. It's an agreement between people whom interact which each other. Because as said, the perimeters of the various roles one inhabits are agreed upon by the people surrounding oneself. Like it or don't, fact's don't care.
Total geek comment, but the Borg were not equal opportunity assimilators. They refused to assimilate the Kazon, they found them to be useless. :edit to add the reaction to the SW shirt was priceless.
For God's sake, Bryan Fuller, how many times do you have to remind us that Star Trek is forward-looking? Seasoned Star Trek fans are well aware of that and we don't need it shoved down our throats at every opportunity. Fuller's incessant emphasis on this really makes me wonder whether or not the new STD series is going to be throwing this at us with every chance it gets.
Yes, especially when the entire point of Fuller's "moderation" was the acceptance of all cultures ... which is a stance for both political parties in the US. Now being careful about immigration processes and terrorism? Recall that Sisko shut down the wormhole to keep any more Jem'Hadar from moving into the Alpha Quadrant ("Call to Arms") and remember what happened on Earth when security got lax ("Homefront" and "Paradise Lost"). Yeah, even in Trek, you gotta use your head along with your heart.
+Poseid which begs the question I would love to ask the panel and you how do we transition from here to the Star Trek universe and do we still need to wait for the future before we make it so? A good start would be NO MONEY! Money inherently incentivizes gaining and maintaining a differential advantage over others, hence crime, corruption, poverty, inequitable wealth distribution, decline of the earths life support systems, and our greatest admission of failure, war. It's like we have all been assimilated by the Ferengi ....lol
jj abbrams saved and resurected star trek show some respect same can be said about star wars he saved and ressurected that as well show some friggin respect
To be perfectly honest, with Nicholas Meyer and Rod Roddenberry involved in this, I was really *really* hopeful for a while. The timeframe the new series is supposedly set in (only 10 years before TOS, that means right after "The Cage") and *especially* the new Ships' design made me all kinds of sceptical again.
I really hope Bryan Fuller is a better showrunner for Trek than he is a panel moderator. The actors on the stage absolutely crush it every time they're on a panel, but instead Fuller answered questions for the panel and pontificated on Trek. Don't get me wrong, he said some great things, but this is a *panel*, where the panel guests should do the majority of the talking. It's only really near the end where the actors get to talk at length about the topics being posed. For the 60th anniversary, SDCC, get Chris Hardwick or a clone of Chris Hardwick to moderate.
Anyone else find it amazing how good Shatner looks for 85? holy cow
wow
he must have some sort of arrangement with the devil or maybe he drank a longevity elixir
what allot of people don't realize is that Shatner is in such good health that he was 52 when he did his first episode...
It's gotta be the romulan ale🍻🍷🍺
he was not 52 when he did his first episode. LOL. He was born in '31 and TOS was released in 66 and filmed in 65. That makes him 34 for the first episode.
My goodness, the interviewer spoke about 50% of the time
This moderator is in love with himself.
Jesus Christ no kidding. Hard to watch this insufferable dipshit make these people uncomfortable with his shitlibbery.
I’m glad I skipped his shows. General consensus seems to agree that the franchise ended with ENT.
Thank you so much for uploading this. It was great to watch. What a wonderful group of people.
William can actually sense all the bullshit that’s happening
They'd be better off finding things for people to laugh about together than lecturing people about "the environment" or "diversity".
@@LeathanL True because we all know Star Trek was a comedy and had nothing to do with Diversity or the Environment ;)
not hard, he only does this cr#p for $
Thanks for sharing these videos with someone like me who did not get to go to the Convention!
Brent Spiner also played in multiple star trek series - as nunien soong and data and lore across enterprise and TNG.....
and star trek Picard
Gene Roddenberry created the concept and format of Star Trek but there were many other people from the production side who also gave their creative talents too. It was a team effort.
Yes, Gene L. Coon, DC Fontana, Matt Jefferies, Robert Justman to name a few...
exactly
With the possible exception of Data, I don't think any character grew as much as Worf. I recall being really disappointed with him in the 1st season because it seemed as though his whole role was to growl a lot and get beat up so that we'd know how tough the bad guys were. It seemed like Michael Dorn spent most of that season just getting his ass kicked. And by the end, he was one of the best characters the show ever had.
Pat Doyle well put
Oh good lord; Fuller makes this panel unwatchable.
All I want from Star Trek Discovery is an episode where the new crew encounters Reginald Barclay who preferably has been sent back in time through some artificial anomaly he has created by accident while doing research on wormholes or whatever. I don't care how they explain it. I just want Reg!
Andreas Nordvall Reg is IN MORE SERIES THAN DORN OMYGAWD
i cant believe shatner is 85. he looks like in hes in 60s
I call it good plastic surgery.
true lol
Ha,ha, agreed, though I would like him to be in another Star Trek film before he meets the great beyond.
i definitely want him in one more trek movie to. and ive always said if they could bring in nimoy why not shatner...and then i read some quotes about well kirk is dead in the main timeline in star trek. yeah well george kirk is dead in yours but yet it was recently reported that hemsworth would be coming back star trek 4. so yeah those two things dont add up. so bring shatner back for more trek jj!!!!
I don't think that he's had any.
Holy shit these questions ... the characters were diverse, we get it.
Not once while watching Star Trek all those years did I think, "Wow, how cool is it that all these races can respect each other's differences and look past them to work as a team!"
No. I just thought, "Klingons are cool. Romulans are cool. Vulcans are cool. The Enterprise is cool. Exploring is cool. Troy has perfect tits."
Yes, there are progressive undertones in Star Trek, but stop shoving it in our faces and reminding us, "everyone is a different race!" because you REMINDING us all the time is what drives wedges between us.
I actually enjoyed the questions. At first I rolled my eyes, but whether one realizes it or not, the diversity in Star Trek is the ideal that everyone hopes for. And these days, with the multitude of crazy things happening, it is refreshing....and I really appreciate that.
+nailspine wel buddy lets see , you know star trek dark mirror? if we keep going how we are now we are more likely to end up there then the real star trek that we would all love, because in the dark mirror they dont give a shit if you are diffrent, becuase if you are you are less then them what is kinda how the world works now right?
so atleast respect them for still having hope the world can end up good and not just fucked up as it is now, and not being like rasism is bad, they dont say that at all, just that we gotta respect all each another no mather the diffrence because if we dont, we can just start throwing nukes right now and just end the human race right now right here. but m8 if you like that idea more i see were you are coming from.
because for me start trek has always been the perfect future of humans working together without having to hate someone for something simple, but find out why that person finds that important and try to respect and work with that. it hasnt always been possibly not even in star trek but you would always see them try.
... GAY!
We as Star Trek fans all agree with Roddenberry's vision for acceptance and equality, but this god awful panel quickly turned into a sermon. This gives me an idea of how Bryan Fuller is approaching this new series, and I'm not excited about it.
michaeloffgrid I don't hold any fan of Star Trek accountable to any social philosophy - if someone's a fan and at the same time they're a full-blown racist, I don't care.
What concerns me is being beaten over the head with 'what's socially acceptable' when I'm just trying to enjoy me some science fiction. Take the crusades - one way or another - and flush it. (that's not specifically directed at you - I'm just saying in general lol)
And yes, I echo your concern about the coming series. NOT interested if the agenda is to preach racial/social equality. I can appreciate the world view, but keep that shit in the background.
Can’t Believe Mr.William shatner is 90
thanks for posting it in full
29:17 for Brent Spiner’s Picard impression.
I would like to correct our host regarding the transporter. Picard said it best to Moriarty"Matter and energy are interchangeable." In other words the molecules are turned into energy then transported to their destiny and re assembled in their original pastern. No copy is maid. His assumption is based on an experiment that successfully copied a molecule using lasers. This experiment was nicknamed "The Transporter". It was later reverenced in 2000 version of The outer limits and again in the movie "The Prestige". But Gen's vision of the transporter was always moving matter in energy form from one place to another.
Pitard knew nothing
Commander Sisko is massively underrated. Loved him on Deep Space 9
THANK YOU for the great copy!! Great sound!
OMG... I love Scott Bakula!! I was obsessed w/Enterprise! I grew up w/Capt.Kirk, so naturally the Shat is THE Captain (there is NO other), but Capt.Archer is close to my heart.
Agreed
TNG and DS9 were my absolute favorites. The stories were more deep and they focused intricately on EACH character.
It warmed up, which was good. I love these actors and the different series. Michael Dorn seems to be the most calm and confident among them. Jeri seems to be empathic - earlier in this video it appears to me like she's carrying their feelings and is worried for them. Brent Spiner also looked incredibly uncomfortable sitting next to Shatner, though eventually they had a couple of laughs together. I loved his imitation of Patrick Stewart. Scott Bakula seems lovely, and Jeri Ryan is delightful as always.
15:10 "Tortured by the Kardashians" . . . I think modern society is being tortured by the current Kardashian generation :-P
You can thank the writer's strike for all these vacuous celebrities and their "reality" TV shows. I wish we could get back to dialogue driven story telling.
great play on words but the star trek ones are spelled with a " c"
The first one or 2 years the kardashians became big i just thought star trek became popular again. I just heard the name, i almost never watch tv. Then suddenly I realized they weren't the cardassians :)
Honestly I'd rather have a Cardassian invasion than watch that shit.
😂😂😂
lol Shatner staring at spiner was so awkward
he's familiar with the bs
luv how humble bill was when he was asked what it was like for him kissing nichelle, xD best question ever
Love how Shatner believes how important canon is, then in the coming years people who didn't have a clue about star trek went and savaged everything that came before it, simply because they could.
There's no point in traveling to the stars until we learn to cherish one another and come to reverence all life here on this planet.
Precisely, all life - human and non-human.
Awesome interview. Thanks for sharing.
I know. Most entertainment panels are just promotional events with an interviewer and non-critical fans asking shallow soft questions.
Very rarely does it become a seminar to discuss philosophy, social issues, politics. Gene Roddenberry would be proud.
Para mi, solo existía la serie original, y la next generation, me cerraba a ver Enterprise, pero... cuando empece a verla, cambio mi visión. Hoy pienso que Enterprise es la mejor, y el personaje de ARCHER con la interpretación de Bakula, es única e insuperable. Asi como fue NImoy = Spock. Sin dejar atras a TRIPP, Reed y T´pool, y el Doctor, son únicos. Como lo fue, Kirk-Spock y Bones,
Jeri Ryan is Timeless. So Fit. Classy. The Borg never had it so good.
would definitely pound it for days
@@mrmisterman999 "It" would rip your incel head off.
@@AngelaRyanXX calm down sugartits.
@@TheToonMonkey And yours.
Thanks for uploading this!
Why drop such a heavy question on the start for Brent, its important to talk about but not to start off with.
I had to skip the into. Brian Fuller is extremely irritating. BTW respecting people is for everyone. Not just one group that claims to be virtuous by way of claims of victimhood.
When Scott Bakula was introduced , it would have been more epic if they should have played Archer's theme.
They should definitely have Scott playing Admiral Archer in the new series!
Gel rub downs for everyone.
Great Rao I hope not.
He would have to be 130 or so years old for that to work.
4TheRecord Really? I thought this was a prequel set between Archer and Kirk. Maybe it's the Romulan War "fought only at impulse"
+4TheRecord
No. In the crappy alternate time-line Trek, he is probably about that age being still alive with Scotty losing his dog in a transwarp beaming accident. This new pay to watch ripoff of the fan movie Axanar he would probably closer to 80 give or take.
I really liked Dorn's closing comment on Spiner's closing scene in "The Offspring". I too think it was his finest performance of that character.
Having an only child, an 18 yr old daughter of exceptional IQ, about to head out on her own, I can't bring myself to watch that show again for I do have an emotion chip.
While the moderator is well known and important to the franchise, I feel this panel would have been far more enjoyable had they not been so controlled. Most fans want to see the panel folks relaxed and free to share and interact with each other as well as the audience. So moderators are to structured. As well as what many have said, too political. Everyone gets it. We don't need to be beat over the head with the morals, ethics and diversities to be brought together. Etc etc. Most fans just want to see the panels having fun. As for posting of this panel, the sound was good! It is nice when one can hear clearly what is said by the panel members and audiences asking the questions.
And too many political related questions.
@@kuunami It is the democratic society of Hollywood, thus, it is only logical for them to push their agendas and attempt to focus peoples minds towards their way of thinking. Which is a shame. This particular group that spouts words such as inclusion, tolerance and acceptance, does not exhibit those same aspects for people outside of their collective.
I was waiting for Brent's Patrick Stewart impression
Shatner is 85 . . . what an amazing personality he is.
"live long and prosper " Mr. Spock
What individual rights are under attack? What the flying fuck, he should have asked that Bill Shatner so he could tell the kids to stop whining :) :)
6:41 until the first question.
Thank you for posting the video. Unrelatedly, this moderator is obnoxiously self-interested.
And he seemed to be aggressively pushing his own narrative/opinion/views on what Star Trek means to us and what the guests of the pane should talk about. In the end it feels to me like the whole goal of the panel was for him to tell us how "the upcoming series is soooo actual and focused on tackling current issues in our reality and society so watch it!"
This makes it feel kinda forced.
Now combined with the reveal of the new ship design... I really hope the story of the series is done better than the way Fuller did here, because so far I'm not sold on the show and that's comin' from someone who's been waiting for anything Star Trek in the main timeline since Enterprise went away and enjoyed every single Trek series so far.
You mean Bill wasn't allowed to dominate things?
Nick Searle
no, I mean when someone finished answering a reply, or just being nearly done talking and maybe kinda lost the train of thought, the guy swoops in and either making a segway to again pushing some message that was in no way related to the question or the reply, or finishes up for the guest of the panel, independently from if the person was done or not with speaking.
As for "Bill" (didn't knew you were that close) he got his own personality, people can love it or hate it, but if Fuller doesn't want to deal with his "dominating" of things, he simply shouldn't have invited him.
Shatner is a bit of a loose cannon, so if you invite him, you should go in prepared for that.
In any case a host of a panel shouldn't cut off the people on said panel and shouldn't twist things around, shouldn't try to give messages into the mouths of the guests of the panel.
There is a way of maintaining structure and manage time constraints on an event without doing those things.
Does life sometimes feel too complicated for u? Just let it go. It's ok.
Go back under the rock troll, We'll turn on the troll signal when you're needed. I promise ;)
Rebbe Schneerson says like this, "Peace is not homogeneity. Peace does not mean that everyone thinks the same way. Peace is when there is plurality that finds a higher Oneness." We are one! Babylon 5's G'kar drove home this idea in his preamble to the Interstellar Alliance's "Declaration of Principles."
I think with any conventions you don't need a Host I think they just need the actors there and just have the fans line up for a questions I fine having a host where they stand there and start talking hopefully star trek conventions will return where fans can actually go to ones.
The last convention I visited was a Star Trek convention in Seattle back in I think 1990 with both Shatner and Nemoy...it was interested and impressive...cheers.
The MC appears to be misusing his office to soapbox inappropriately - He's making more statements than asking actual questions! (which is the MCs job) O~O
Yup and he was the executive producer for CBS Paramount responsible for StarTrek Discovery
Jeri ryan does not age. That said lets take a moment to marvel at the irony of the executive producer of discovery talk about the importance of canon.
Brian Fuller the producer of STD. Man I should have watched this 4 years ago, it's absolutely prophetic. You can tell what is to come from this panel, oh boy.
I was thinking the exact same thing. So pompous and heavy-handed with his self-important mortality,bad opposed to Roddenberry and his joyous sense of adventure and humour alongside the morality plays.
Yup
I clicked on the video to watch my some of my favorite character actors talk about the show I love so much, and instead got 15 min of politics. Star Trek has always been political, but these days it’s so much more divisive. At least Picard season 3 has actually seemed to start feeling like Star Trek actually should. New Trek is not hopeful, it’s just dramatic, negitive, and preachy.
I love how they used DS9 theme for Dorn :D
Also, my god, Shatner looks like he's 70, not 85.
Honestly he seems like he's 55 or 60
Ha, I thought exactly the same. Just marathoned DS9 on Prime so it’s fresh in my mind.
Thx for the upload. You rock!
Shat' being Shatner!!! [I love it when Jeri sneaks a snap of him on her cell!]
Having respect for someone's identity is fine but to say that I have to agree with what you feel about yourself is taking away my individuality I don't care what you call yourself or what you do it's your business but to attempt indoctrination of children to conform to what you think is fundamentally and morally wrong
so very true!!!!!!!!
Shatner still rides his horses at 85.
This is an amazing panel!
That producer is pushing WAY too much how the new star trek will be "modern and utopian". It do sound good but the way he want to do say it over and over makes me worried that it wont be what he is selling
4 years later... you were absolutely right.
Brian Fuller seems to be missing the whole point about Star Trek. It's not a mission to be more politically correct than anything that has gone before.
13:18 - Oh God, Bill's looking at me again. Stop looking at me!
will someone explain to me how individual rights are under attack? Where is this happening?
Texas and Florida.
Oh so that's the guy whose responsible for that abortion, I'm sorry I mean Star Trek Discovery.
Bad attempt to force a conversation into a heavy handed message about diversity
Like Star Trek, always and everywhere. Some of the panelist are even black or female. Liberal bullshit man.
Well, the leftists, like the LGBTQIAXYZ (and the kitchen sink), they are like the borg. They think they are perfect. They think they are the only thing that matters in the universe. They think you will join them, aka assimilated, or destroyed. They are like a plague. I think you get the picture.
I lost a lot of respect for Scott Bakula with his response.
You notice that they didn't ask the Shat to contribute on the leftist agenda loaded question? Why? Because he would've destroyed it and not broke a sweat.
Bmgsh, you seem like a complete jackass. Fuck off.
What? Just trying to fit in.
Exactly what I took from this as well. And it leaves me pondering, if in the new series, they'll have any stories about a benevolent species taking in another species that are in trouble but have an entirely different and violent way of life. I'm curious to see the outcome in the Star Trek universe, if it will be the propaganda of alls well that ends well, or the reality of ending in a slow genocide of the benevolent species.
KIRK NEVER DIED.
Bryan fuller's injection of his politics into the intro should have been our first warning that all subsequent trek was going to suck.
Brian Fuller's voice mannerisms sounds a lot like Wil Wheaton, the grownup Wil.
Yes! Brent doing Stewart is always epic !
I love all the Star Trek captains. My favorite is Captain Kirk!❤️💜💙🖤💚💛🧡
Brent Spiner also appeared in two series--he played Arik Soong in Enterprise.
host sounds a bit crazy to me, makes the actors very uncomfortable and not really fun at all
Yes And he was the executive producer for CBS Paramount responsible for StarTrek Discovery
Thanks for posting this entertaining video.
A Captain that doesn't CRY
Thanks for having uploaded this, thanks Star TRek for existing and Bryan Fuller for being the wonderful person he is! (Happy birthday, Bryan, btw!) I teared up at various times watching this panel and especially at the end, when people held hands and everything. (Who is cutting onions here!??)
Dorn also played Thok Mok on Star Trek Klingon Academy. He was Col. Worf's brother.
Really, how is identity under attack, how can something that is an agreement upon the diverse roles you take on in life even able to be under some form of threat? What anyone's "identity" is, at least according to specialists in that field (science > "i don't think so"), not an individual decision. It's an agreement between people whom interact which each other. Because as said, the perimeters of the various roles one inhabits are agreed upon by the people surrounding oneself. Like it or don't, fact's don't care.
Shat could still actually do Kirk in a film
Stay positive.. the panel. Wish they actually talked about the show.
I wish i was there to meet Kirk and the rest of them, to bad Spock couldn't be there, maybe his son should have been there for his father
I'd like to have a transporter because in the winter when I get too cold I can just go to Florida till I warm up.
Replicate me a pizza... no anchovies, please!
That chick is 49, holy shit. GMILF
I think I still love Jeri Ryan. :D
Why didn’t you mention Jeri Ryan on your titles?
Best Captain: Picard
Second Officer: Spock
Doctor: EMH
Engineer: Scotty
Security: Worf
Bartender: QUARK
I'd go with the most inappropriate lineup possible.
Kirk
Riker
Bashir
Tucker
Yar
absolute rot
Excellent! Redeeming Star Trek from J.J.. Thank you. This was great.
Total geek comment, but the Borg were not equal opportunity assimilators. They refused to assimilate the Kazon, they found them to be useless.
:edit to add the reaction to the SW shirt was priceless.
For God's sake, Bryan Fuller, how many times do you have to remind us that Star Trek is forward-looking? Seasoned Star Trek fans are well aware of that and we don't need it shoved down our throats at every opportunity. Fuller's incessant emphasis on this really makes me wonder whether or not the new STD series is going to be throwing this at us with every chance it gets.
39:49 Scott predicts the pandemic protection plan for 2021
Why does rh the host sound exactly like Wil Wheaton?
Good to see Scott B on here.
missed Capt Picard here :) "Xavier" Patrick Stewart...
Doddy BJ also missed Kate Mulgrew
I thought M.Dorn in an interview confessed that in one of the first auditions with Nemoy, his first question was "What is a Klingon?"
Is there any way to ban a person like this from UA-cam?
I was looking forward to watching this, until it turned into a political lecture.
Yes, especially when the entire point of Fuller's "moderation" was the acceptance of all cultures ... which is a stance for both political parties in the US. Now being careful about immigration processes and terrorism? Recall that Sisko shut down the wormhole to keep any more Jem'Hadar from moving into the Alpha Quadrant ("Call to Arms") and remember what happened on Earth when security got lax ("Homefront" and "Paradise Lost"). Yeah, even in Trek, you gotta use your head along with your heart.
Star trek has always been a political lecture. Except for JJ's pew pew starships...
Without your underbelly preferably. Take your crooked comparisons to the gamma quadrant and get lost.
+Poseid which begs the question I would love to ask the panel and you how do we transition from here to the Star Trek universe and do we still need to wait for the future before we make it so?
A good start would be NO MONEY!
Money inherently incentivizes gaining and maintaining a differential advantage over others, hence crime, corruption, poverty, inequitable wealth distribution, decline of the earths life support systems, and our
greatest admission of failure, war. It's like we have all been assimilated by the Ferengi ....lol
jj abbrams saved and resurected star trek show some respect same can be said about star wars he saved and ressurected that as well show some friggin respect
When Jeri is paying attention to her phone and taking pics, she's bored.
To be perfectly honest, with Nicholas Meyer and Rod Roddenberry involved in this, I was really *really* hopeful for a while.
The timeframe the new series is supposedly set in (only 10 years before TOS, that means right after "The Cage") and *especially* the new Ships' design made me all kinds of sceptical again.
How did you leave out Jeri Ryan in your title???
I really hope Bryan Fuller is a better showrunner for Trek than he is a panel moderator. The actors on the stage absolutely crush it every time they're on a panel, but instead Fuller answered questions for the panel and pontificated on Trek. Don't get me wrong, he said some great things, but this is a *panel*, where the panel guests should do the majority of the talking. It's only really near the end where the actors get to talk at length about the topics being posed. For the 60th anniversary, SDCC, get Chris Hardwick or a clone of Chris Hardwick to moderate.
Call him Scott Jakula HAHAHA!
Try saying you don't think Trump is the Devil in Hollywood, and see if they still respect your individuality.
The message of Star Trek is that we’re going to make it 300 years from now 500 years from now and passed
great video
I love that Jeri filmed Shatner. :-D
The Borg excluded the Kazon. Who wouldn't? :P
Anybody notice Michael kiss leaping Jeri Ryan?