Kia EV9 Review - Imagine if this 7-seater electric family SUV had a Land Rover badge...

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  • @tclynes
    @tclynes 8 місяців тому +57

    Lovely video, to quote my better half “he makes it interesting for people who aren't car people”
    As for me, it feels like they’ve taken note of everything that makes our current D3 and old GL so practical, learned from it and built something that people with kids/dogs/hobbies need rather than an oversized coupe.

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 8 місяців тому +5

      Jonny mentions that people complaining about the use of minerals for the batteries, blah blah blah, will be using laptops and mobile phones. Just how many more minerals and heavy metals does the battery for a car have compared to a laptop? If we all have one electric car, one laptop and one phone, what is going to be the biggest environmental impact - by far?
      Dreadful journalism. Utterly biased.

    • @MrEV
      @MrEV 8 місяців тому

      @@julianevans9548 Far more of course, although fewer EV batteries these days use tricky stuff like cobalt and nickel as cheaper, safer, easier-to-source LFP batteries are becoming increasingly popular (sadly not in the EV9 though). Also, laptop and phone batteries don't last anywhere near as long as EV batteries as their cycle count is very low.

    • @James-gf9jl
      @James-gf9jl 8 місяців тому +1

      Alternatively, you could buy an estate car.

    • @MrEV
      @MrEV 8 місяців тому

      @@James-gf9jl I don't think there are any 7-seater EV estates yet?

    • @LionKing-eh9uk
      @LionKing-eh9uk 8 місяців тому +1

      another you tuber not declaring their payed promotion.

  • @thejfg7741
    @thejfg7741 8 місяців тому +38

    I give you massive kudos for talking about efficiency and putting it up on the screen. This is exactly what EV buyers need to know. Talking about or just talking about range is a misnomer in many respects.

    • @royed31
      @royed31 7 місяців тому +1

      Also need to know : Reliability Survey Results: According to a J.D. Power survey, on average, ICE cars experienced 187 problems per 100 vehicles, PHEVs witnessed 216 problems, while BEVs fared far worse with a score of 256 problems per 100 vehicles over three years of ownership

    • @ObiePaddles
      @ObiePaddles 6 місяців тому

      It’s the old MPG we always used to look at. This uses at least twice my Model Y but range rovers were always thirsty

  • @Mattceeee
    @Mattceeee 8 місяців тому +178

    Who else winced hearing and seeing the jet wash nozzle

    • @Tom-bp6no
      @Tom-bp6no 8 місяців тому +9

      That sound struck instant fear 😂

    • @martinharries6149
      @martinharries6149 8 місяців тому +8

      Yes I did, waiting for the paint to blister and peel away!

    • @steve_colwill
      @steve_colwill 8 місяців тому +12

      Clearly Johnny has no idea how to use the correct attachment…

    • @roberttaylor465
      @roberttaylor465 8 місяців тому +5

      Asking as you don't get too near it's perfectly fine

    • @toyota420xp
      @toyota420xp 8 місяців тому +2

      Depends on how much pressure has most of our design for washing cars

  • @ashliehiggins
    @ashliehiggins 8 місяців тому +69

    Jesus christ Johnny, I hate crossovers, but respect the paint by not using a nozzle designed for brick and concrete.

    • @philipbellew9645
      @philipbellew9645 8 місяців тому +7

      He worked over that old Aston with Tavarish with a patio dirt blaster nozzle. Mr Smith has form with a Karcher.

    • @strangerdanger8462
      @strangerdanger8462 8 місяців тому +4

      It's a press car. They have a hard life

    • @TheLoveViking
      @TheLoveViking 8 місяців тому

      Just been sick in my mouth - mad man

    • @charlieb9688
      @charlieb9688 8 місяців тому

      Thought the same

    • @jandlnicholsonashcroft2488
      @jandlnicholsonashcroft2488 8 місяців тому

      This is the most triggered I've been in years. I too saw the barn find and thought, he'll have to pick that paint of the floor

  • @zzkamikazezz
    @zzkamikazezz 8 місяців тому +69

    Holy cr@p, surprised the paint didn’t peel off with that brick cleaning attachment!!

    • @roberttaylor465
      @roberttaylor465 8 місяців тому +4

      Bit far away for that to happen

    • @crohns8263
      @crohns8263 8 місяців тому

      Lol

    • @Dadeets
      @Dadeets 8 місяців тому +1

      Gotta admit I did think the same ! Gotta use that vario lance!

    • @ObiePaddles
      @ObiePaddles 6 місяців тому

      @@roberttaylor465unless the ball bearing that causes the movement was stuck in which case it is a single jet for a bit. Then it would have damaged the panel let alone the paint.

  • @robertprydon640
    @robertprydon640 8 місяців тому +8

    What i particularly loved was the soaped up view, really highlighted the design by de-focusing in paint and trim and just highlighting design lines… Kudos for originality!!!!

  • @simonfidler7906
    @simonfidler7906 8 місяців тому +78

    I'm relieved to discover I'm not the only person who shouts at the wind. I hope you do it when nobody is listening too.

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  8 місяців тому +12

      Often.

    • @simonfidler7906
      @simonfidler7906 8 місяців тому +1

      You’re the first person I’ve met who admits to this.

    • @40spinup
      @40spinup 8 місяців тому

      Me to!

    • @james.telfer
      @james.telfer 8 місяців тому +1

      I occasionally do this when not shouting at the radio/TV/podcast/inanimate object, just for variety.

    • @Iceberg1313
      @Iceberg1313 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@TheLateBrakeShowJonny when I saw you were using the turbo lance to rinse the car, I wanted to reach through the screen and give you a clip on the ear lob like my gran use to do to us when we weren't doing something right 😂

  • @hanyolo_
    @hanyolo_ 8 місяців тому +12

    For anyone that thinks "ohh it's too big for our family" get the new Nero instead. It's a smaller version of the 9 with a few less frills. Better boot shape than the EV6 so you can fit more stuff in the back, and more space inside than it's sister car the Kona. Saw my first EV9 in the flesh the other day. Stunning car 😍😍

    • @FireballYT
      @FireballYT 8 місяців тому +3

      The "smaller version of the EV9" will come up this year and it will be called EV5.

  • @MrEV
    @MrEV 8 місяців тому +29

    It looks great and I have a feeling this'll be bought by families who actually need this size of car, and not just getting one as a status symbol. (Cough, Range Rover, cough).

  • @michaelrobson3460
    @michaelrobson3460 8 місяців тому +22

    I know you didn't do this , Johnny, but the edit made it look like you did!
    You passed a horse and rider, perfectly.
    Then immediately pulled over and did your 0-62.
    Seemingly, spitting stones and rocks in their faces as you gave them a 1 finger salute.
    Bless...

    • @dublinvanlife466
      @dublinvanlife466 8 місяців тому +9

      I think most level headed people will know that didn't happen but I get your point.

  • @thejfg7741
    @thejfg7741 8 місяців тому +32

    I have a theory about these. I don’t think Kia really cares how many of these it sells. Sure it will be chuffed if it does sell a few. But I think the real purpose of this is as a statement of intent from Kia. It’s about putting an EV stake in the ground and saying, this is what we do. I think that’s quite bold and shows real confidence.

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 8 місяців тому +4

      Kia/Hyundai have nailed it in the last couple of years. The South Koreans are really hitting the ball out of the park with their design, technology and efficiency.

    • @thejfg7741
      @thejfg7741 8 місяців тому +2

      I agree. I’m driving a Kia Niro EV and it reminds of how VW used to be.

    • @PaulSmith-mn6bg
      @PaulSmith-mn6bg 8 місяців тому

      Always entertaining, and yes, the weather is awful. The only thing I thought about these 7 heaters was .. what if the car was hit from behind and the third row of seats? With some the persons head could be resting on the back window.?
      But with KIA I don't think they are restricted by constantly bringing in a required car look or heritage look? That tree's them surely to reinvent which is surely liberating to their designers?
      Great show again

    • @CosyP
      @CosyP 8 місяців тому +2

      Kia have designed this mainly for the American market where it will sell well. Size isn’t a problem there with their wide roads and large parking spaces. Not like UK still keeping parking space size designed around the original 1959 Mini. Plus lots of narrow country lanes.

    • @thejfg7741
      @thejfg7741 8 місяців тому +1

      @@CosyP they have and you’re right but interestingly we don’t get the Telluride in Europe. It’s telling I think that we do get the EV9

  • @Patriiiiick
    @Patriiiiick 8 місяців тому +72

    12:00 Finally, a car with some decent space for your olive oil infused butter.

    • @michaelrobson3460
      @michaelrobson3460 8 місяців тому +5

      Two cup holders FOR EVERYBODY!
      14 mfthkn cup holders!

    • @randomistmechanic
      @randomistmechanic 8 місяців тому +5

      THIS!! I had to rewind to see if my eyes deceived me

  • @nicemandan
    @nicemandan 8 місяців тому +25

    11:38 my wife always points out that a car with a big space in or under the console is perfect for a handbag, so it's not always in a potentially dirty passenger footwell. She also points out all male car reviewers miss that feature 😂

  • @lowfuel6089
    @lowfuel6089 8 місяців тому +59

    As far as I can tell, it's roughly the same weight as a gas-powered Range Rover. I think that's important to point out as you keep mentioning how heavy the ev9 is.

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  8 місяців тому +25

      Agree. Thank you for pointing out.

    • @tris7
      @tris7 8 місяців тому +16

      Correct. But the Range Rover will do 400 miles in any weather, takes 3 mins to refuel.

    • @bobstirling6885
      @bobstirling6885 8 місяців тому +6

      How heavy will the EV Range Rover weigh??

    • @Dadeets
      @Dadeets 8 місяців тому +1

      @@bobstirling6885very good point. !

    • @tris7
      @tris7 8 місяців тому +5

      @@bobstirling6885 about as much as an aircraft carrier probably 🤦‍♂️ batteries have no place in these types of vehicles it’s so bloody wasteful.

  • @patreekotime4578
    @patreekotime4578 8 місяців тому +7

    The fold flat seats are a nice trick. Everyone here in the states wants a big honking Yukon, but if you actually have to haul anything in the back, the seats dont actually fold flat so its a pain in the butt to actually use it for practical stuff.

    • @Low760
      @Low760 8 місяців тому

      That is because of emissions rules iirc

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Low760 Not sure if you are commenting on the wrong thread, but Im pretty sure that the terrible design choices of the interiors of most oversized gas-guzzling SUVs have nothing to do with emissions rules.

  • @axeman3d
    @axeman3d 8 місяців тому +9

    I am now an EV driver and I get some of the nonsense about 'they're not actually green' from people. I'm not driving it to be green as such, it just makes massive amounts of sense. I also like to point out that 140+ years of car manufacture, exhaust emission and 'big oil' have been super green so far, yes?

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 8 місяців тому +3

      I've had the "you do realise you're not actually saving the planet, don't you?". I always reply by saying " I didn't get it to save the planet - I got it to swap my £200+ per Month petrol bill to around £30 per Month on electricity, which it does" (Incidentally, they never believe this). And if they're still listening, I sometimes add " servicing is cheaper too - I paid £68 for my last service"........

    • @Freespeech2222
      @Freespeech2222 3 місяці тому

      Wait to you try to sell it. It will be a big shock. Your 2nd and 3rd year insurance will be the final nail in the coffin.

    • @axeman3d
      @axeman3d 3 місяці тому

      It’s leased. I would not buy one with battery tech changing constantly and second hand prices all over the place. This was to try it out and for someone who rarely does long journeys at short notice it is brilliant. Costs far less to run than my Honda did, is far quicker and the stereo is great.

  • @stephenwhitworth7701
    @stephenwhitworth7701 8 місяців тому +3

    Wow. You have to admire the honesty and the fact that Jonny holds a mirror up to all of us in terms of what is we really want from a car? Me, I will never buy the EV9, my days of lugging kids and their friends from x to y have long gone. However, I love cars and value the insights we get when someone like Jonny does a review. Me, sans children and no grandchildren anywhere in sight, I'm holding out for an R5 electric for a much more appropriate level of self indulgence. Hint hint Jonny. Love your channel and your work ethic, thanks.

  • @ModernAdventurerTravler
    @ModernAdventurerTravler 8 місяців тому +5

    Dude, your rants on the weather and wind are hilarious. I loved it! Hope you guys get some good weather there.

  • @echodub81
    @echodub81 8 місяців тому +11

    I‘m not into big suv‘s , but this one grows on me. I don‘t like the wheels but everything else is stunning

  • @thomaschetwood6249
    @thomaschetwood6249 8 місяців тому +3

    Your summary of the EV9, a big car that actually exploits its size with a large, accommodating and practical interior, reminds me so much of our old mark 1 Volvo XC90. It was a revelation when it was launched, the first 7 seat SUV to use a transverse engine and really exploit that difference. Similarly the EV9 seems to be the first big EV people carrier (except perhaps for the Tesla Model X) to really make the most of its skateboard platform.
    Great job, Kia, and I think you’ve shown not only Land Rover how to do it but Volvo too (the EX90 is insanely expensive and not as roomy as the EV9, I understand).

  • @Lee-dt7ii
    @Lee-dt7ii 7 місяців тому +1

    Jonny your car reviews are the best on UA-cam, clear easy to watch you keep it simple and entertaining for the viewers, and your barn finds are brilliant, keep it up mate, always a great watch.

  • @synpol
    @synpol 8 місяців тому +6

    Great Review Johnny .... I actually have owned one of these for almost 2 months now and covered 2500 miles and its excellent. I have the 6 seat GT S line version in the same colour you tested and it looks and drives really well. The annoying nagging safety alarms have been short cutted to a button on the steering wheel now and I can switch off what I want in about 20 seconds on start up so its less of a faff. I had a BMW iX before this and I never thought I would say that a KIA was a Rival to my BMW ... but it blows it away in all respects other than the badge snobbery (which i do have a bit of) ....cant recommend it enough.

    • @Freespeech2222
      @Freespeech2222 3 місяці тому

      You don’t actually own it.

    • @Replus-q4c
      @Replus-q4c Місяць тому

      @@Freespeech2222 5~10년뒤에는 현대,기아를 바라보는 시선이 바뀌실겁니다...제가 장담합니다..

  • @robbrown6495
    @robbrown6495 8 місяців тому +1

    A few years ago I had an Infiniti QX60 and the Kia reminds me of it with all the gadgets. I had the 360 cameras and rear seats that fold down at the touch of a button. The seats would also come back up with a button press, but Infiniti didn't bother with a way to electrically get the rear headrests back up. Not a problem , as all they seemed to achieve was an obscured rear view.
    Being an engineer I have to ask questions like "if you run the batteries down, and say, go on holiday, and come back and the batteries are totally dead - how do you get the charging flap open to charge the car?
    Now for something a bit more techie and a bit more interesting.
    If you have a bigger battery pack - you get more range, but the penalty is that you have to push a heavier vehicle with that extra capacity.
    This suggests that if a car is available with either a 75 kWh battery or a 100kWh battery, the increased range of the bigger heavier car will not be the expected 33% over the smaller one.
    How does it work and what increase would you expect to see?
    Does this suggest that we are not going to see the true benefits of bigger power packs and better range until battery weight is severely reduced?

  • @danhaines
    @danhaines 8 місяців тому +18

    It sounded like you were using a tornado tip on your jet wash (the buzzing sound). This absolutely, positively should NEVER be used on a vehicle. You're going to take paint off if you're not careful. That tip is for taking crap off brickwork and patio paving.

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  8 місяців тому +9

      Whoops. Oh well.

    • @AnagramAutoclassics
      @AnagramAutoclassics 8 місяців тому +1

      Yep. Took the lacquer and top coat clean off the front bumper on my kid's 107. "Dad, can you get it repainted please?" Grrr!

    • @meloccom
      @meloccom 8 місяців тому

      I’ve used the turbo tip on my Gerni pressure washer to wash my Tesla for 9 years without I’ll effects. You just need to hang back until there’s no sound coming from the panels of the car. Jonny was a bit close in areas but unlikely to have done any damage to a new car.

  • @winstonjunior
    @winstonjunior 8 місяців тому +7

    I cant wait to buy it for 10K in 3 years😀

  • @PerdixDesignLtd
    @PerdixDesignLtd 8 місяців тому +3

    I feel the same about needlessly large SUVs (and how grating constant wind* is on the nerves). Looked forward to Jonny getting his hands on an EV9, because it would be about the most unbiased review going and wasn't disappointed. Good looking vehicle with well considered features. Far too large for my needs, but great for large families.
    * Environmental, not personal

  • @arpinchock
    @arpinchock 8 місяців тому +1

    I went from a 7 seater Renault Grand Scenic to a Skoda Enyaq. I really like the Enyaq but I do miss the towing as I need to move classic cars around on a trailer from time to time. Friends and friends of friends have been filling that gap…. (With diesel powered cars…) Good to see someone in the E.V. car world is listening!

  • @Coffeevaners
    @Coffeevaners 8 місяців тому +3

    It's a lovely car and my local dealership asked me to test 1 when i took my 7 seater diesel sorrento in for a service but i tow a 1.6 ton trailer. EVs still have a long way to go towing. I get nearly 300miles on a tank with the trailer. When an EV can get me from Newcastle to Bristol with 1.6 ton on the back then thats the time for me to go EV. Nice car and great review. 👍

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 8 місяців тому +1

      I don't think you'll be kept waiting too long now......solid state batteries will probably meet your needs. Even with current battery tech, we're seeing ranges upwards of 300+ miles. Solid state could well add 50% to that.....plus the battery packs themselves will be physically smaller, lighter, and offer quicker charging.

    • @vacoas04
      @vacoas04 8 місяців тому

      @@Brian-om2hh you won't get 300 miles with 1.6 tons behind the car with an EV. Lucky if you can get 100 miles with a Tesla X towing.

  • @84jonno
    @84jonno 8 місяців тому +4

    Haha fella that fitment for the power wash is the ground cleaner... Durable paint indeed! All the best, love you're content!

  • @hollyandtheev6519
    @hollyandtheev6519 8 місяців тому +5

    Great review, Jonny.
    Not a fan of needlessly big cars either, but as the father of a 4-year-old and with twins on the way, I am more sympathetic than ever to the appeal of a genuine 7-seater.
    Not that I have a spare 70k hanging around, but if I did, I’d be tempted.

    • @Low760
      @Low760 8 місяців тому +4

      You need seven seats for a family of five? Do you split one of them in half? I have a family of five and we fit perfectly in a 5 seat large E class size wagon on trips. Heck, we fit in a Mazda3 for short trips.

    • @Jonathan_Doe_
      @Jonathan_Doe_ 8 місяців тому +1

      1+2 is 3. You’ll be more than fine with an old V70 estate (boots cavernous, and you can just buy/rent a roof box for longer trips away) If you get a car with spare seats you’ll get roped into extra taxi duties with their mates too.

    • @hollyandtheev6519
      @hollyandtheev6519 8 місяців тому +1

      Nope. Certainly don’t need 7 seats but can see the appeal.
      Twins on one row and the older boy on the row behind so he can have some space from them on longer journeys.
      Also, have you seen the size of a double buggy?

    • @AndiRuby
      @AndiRuby 8 місяців тому

      Family of 5 here too. The size of baby chairs, diaper bags, double stroller etc and a7 seater starts to be really appealing. What if one kid wants a friend and you have the MIL staying with you

  • @craigburgess2237
    @craigburgess2237 8 місяців тому +2

    Nearly nearly went for an EV9 but Land Rover came through with my RR after 18 months of waiting. The only thing I wish it had, is a 22kWh inverter which given its size it should have as an option. I'm lucky to have 3 phase at home and with 22 kWh I could charge from flat to full in one night on off peak.
    The captain's chair 6 seater version looks like a lot of fun for a road trip.
    But its stand out feature is that 7 year warranty.

  • @EVinstructor
    @EVinstructor 8 місяців тому +3

    Good review Johnny. Whilst I agree enormous SUVs like this are quite ridiculous they have a market.
    People buy large Audi, BMW and Range Rover SUVs. Kia have demonstrated that an EV can be made into a competent large SUV, a market that was looking difficult until now. While the EV9 might not be quite as luxurious the prestige manufacturers now have to demonstrate they can make an SUV on an EV platform as good as this with all the same practicality of the Kia. If they can’t they will lose customers to Kia who are willing to sacrifice a bit of that luxury feel for a practical SUV that’s a good EV.
    Interesting times as EVs continue to be disruptive technology.

  • @igorpelehh621
    @igorpelehh621 8 місяців тому +2

    Love the practicality and aesthetics. Stress of Public charging on long journeys with dogs, kids, bikes luggage trailer for me will be the limiting factor when choosing a large family EV over, in my case, an 11 year old 2.5 diesel Volvo XC60 we had from new. Our BMW I3S does a perfect job of 99% of our journeys, gets charged at home - no stress. (Also my motorcycle has 350 mile range 😅)

  • @mikebull1972
    @mikebull1972 8 місяців тому +3

    A superbly produced review of a clearly very impressive vehicle, but my Christ, the size...the looks...the price!

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 8 місяців тому

      The price stands comparison with Range Rovers, as most of those are £65k to £70k upwards.... plus this car has it's 7 year warranty. And that's something an RR owner can only dream about....

  • @scott135
    @scott135 8 місяців тому +2

    Jonny, I know it won't go to your head but you really are the most intelligent, comprehensive and pragmatic car reviewer on the whole of UA-cam. Thank you for your huge efforts in making such informative (and entertaining) reviews - and may you hit 1m subscibers very, very soon. You deserve it, sir.

  • @JBFlytography
    @JBFlytography 8 місяців тому +2

    Got one of these on order to replace my wife’s Sorrento. I’ve got the EV6 GT and wasn’t all that fussed about the EV9 one until I seen it in the flesh at dealership a few months back. It’s a nice looking car!

    • @Low760
      @Low760 8 місяців тому

      You have too much money.

    • @JBFlytography
      @JBFlytography 8 місяців тому

      @@Low760 it’s called working mate, you should try it.

  • @SimonHarvey-i4z
    @SimonHarvey-i4z 8 місяців тому +4

    Your comment about we use similar batteries in our phones but never go on about that is exactly the pint we already heavily depend on such batteries so with millions of vehicles needing them as well just don't see where it will all come from without having a negative effect on our planet which is meant to be the reverse point of these EV'S ;it seems a well designed thought out vehicle but seeming as it 70k it bloody well should be don't u think?

  • @chickentonight22
    @chickentonight22 8 місяців тому +2

    There's something therapeutic about watching a car being washed, but even more so when Mr Smith is talking about it.

  • @leemace9638
    @leemace9638 8 місяців тому +3

    The Kia EV6 here in Australia there knocking off $15,000 of the price because nobody’s buying them so hold on for a while and watch the price come down on the EV9

  • @PhineasPhlob
    @PhineasPhlob 8 місяців тому +1

    Your rant at the wind was nearly as good as your rant at the non-opening charge port door on the VW e-up.

  • @adamrice617
    @adamrice617 8 місяців тому +3

    But it’s not been a remotely cold Winter. If we’re classing ‘cold’ as sub 10 degrees, then it’s been cold occasionally, so would be interested to see what the actual stats are for minus values. It’s been wet, mild and windy in The South of England but everyone needs heated steering wheels and seats and to leave their car engines running for no reason. At least you can’t leave your engine running on an EV!

    • @logicalChimp
      @logicalChimp 8 місяців тому

      Depends on where in the country you are, as some places have had consistent periods below 0C, etc... which coupled with the pervasive damp and windy weather, *definitely* feels cold and unpleasant.

  • @JonathanEzor
    @JonathanEzor 8 місяців тому +2

    Thank you as always, Jonny. My current two vehicles are a 2022 Mustang Mach-E GT and a 2018 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid PHEV for times I need to haul 5+ adults. My hope is that, when my Mach-E lease ends in mid-2026, I may trade in the van and get one 7-seater EV to serve both roles. Not sure what Ford will offer in the category by then, but this would certainly be on my list to consider.

  • @Theoriginalramjammer
    @Theoriginalramjammer 8 місяців тому +3

    The Korean brands are killing their designs in the EV sector right now ❤

  • @josephkelly4893
    @josephkelly4893 8 місяців тому +2

    Great review Jonny, and the best bit is we know you are honest with your reviews. If you say it’s good, it’s good. 👍

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you. That's the important thing for me - I want people to know the good bits, the less good bits and really think before they commit

  • @Simon-du7yx
    @Simon-du7yx 8 місяців тому +5

    Not a helmsman’s steering, so no track work; but how is it for palming???

  • @KeithFLOOK-wd3uw
    @KeithFLOOK-wd3uw 8 місяців тому +2

    Land Rover (and the whole of the JLR group) needs to find a way of producing vehicles that are up at the top of the reliability lists instead of at the bottom.
    Looking good but without the reliability is just like dating a high maintenance model .. good for short time experience but not something for long term dating.
    When JLR starts having the confidence to give 7 year Warranties or the 10 year ones from my Lexus then they will worth considering.

  • @commuterbranchline8132
    @commuterbranchline8132 8 місяців тому +7

    This has been built for the septic tanks. I’m sure they will love it.

    • @kiddwong4186
      @kiddwong4186 8 місяців тому

      Not big enough for the seppos

    • @markmiwurdz2248
      @markmiwurdz2248 8 місяців тому

      Don’t Kia have a 9 seater model built in the U.S. exclusively for their market called the Telluride?

  • @daviebevan
    @daviebevan 8 місяців тому +2

    I'm not in the market for one of these EV's, but if I was I would wholeheartedly pick this over the good ole Volvo counterparts.
    Another thoroughly entertaining review Jonny. Well done🙏

  • @michaelstaunton1632
    @michaelstaunton1632 8 місяців тому +3

    Enjoying the content on the channel well done everyone 👍👍👍

  • @davehogan6401
    @davehogan6401 8 місяців тому

    Currently driving a GT line EV9, it gets loads of admiring glances especially from RR and Porsche drivers.

  • @vboost
    @vboost 8 місяців тому +4

    Spotted one on the road today. Looks good.

  • @ShadyDuck-v8i
    @ShadyDuck-v8i 8 місяців тому +1

    Loved this video.
    I drive an MY23 XC90 Recharge, need 7 seats for the family. I really wanted a good 7 seater EV, primarily I find them more relaxing to drive and a place to destress after work, but also for tax purposes.
    I will certainly have a look at the EV9 when I’m due to change, it’s not my dream car, but no 7 seater large vehicle will ever be. It’s there for now, as we need one (dream daily would be an Alpina B5 touring, green over tan).
    Thank for the brilliant reviews, interesting take on things, and well made videos.

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  8 місяців тому

      Thank you so much for watching the reviews and taking time to comment

  • @Xandrax
    @Xandrax 8 місяців тому +3

    Its just so, so expensive. I would never spend that much on a depreciating asset.

  • @affordablevs
    @affordablevs 8 місяців тому +1

    Not sure i am ballsy enough to purchase one of these if i was a private Billy, but on a 2 yr lease through the business that we can have a tickle on VAT and Corporation tax etc, defo would. Styling and practicality wins over the e-tron.and EQ's etc... love the shape of it!

  • @timothycarpenter1476
    @timothycarpenter1476 8 місяців тому +4

    Does it fit in a car parking space, or can you just take up 2 places?

  • @kovbahadori3485
    @kovbahadori3485 8 місяців тому +1

    Great review Jonny - glad you mentioned the LWB ID Buzz at the end it kept crossing my mind throughout 👍

  • @suartdave
    @suartdave 8 місяців тому +3

    Impressive car, but our 19 plate Galaxy is a third of the value / cost and has that interior space, terrific stereo and button that drops all 7 seats ….. ofcourse it’s disease-al but hey , who are these families with £76k to spend on the family wagon?

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 8 місяців тому

      They won't spend £76k on it, they will lease it.

    • @suartdave
      @suartdave 8 місяців тому

      @@Brian-om2hh you’re right. I should have said who are these families prepared to put £7k down, £770pcm for 36 months …. (£34k) …. Just to hand it back? 🤪

  • @kevinstringer8938
    @kevinstringer8938 8 місяців тому +1

    Without question the best car channel and presenter on UA-cam.

  • @EdgarRenje
    @EdgarRenje 7 місяців тому +3

    Even German media admitted it's the better car over Audi and Mercedes

  • @dkerr1983
    @dkerr1983 8 місяців тому +1

    Loved the video as always Jonny.
    Look forward to the pod tonight too.
    Now, I bloody love thuis car, I can't afford to buy one but if I did, I would.
    I'm still driving my 2009 BMW X5 I've had for the past seven plus years which dose a great job of moving me, Mt family, the dog and towing the 2000kg caravan.
    One day though, an EV9

  • @cp4512
    @cp4512 8 місяців тому +11

    Over 2500Kg! It’s not exactly a lightweight.

    • @interceptor-ss8kb
      @interceptor-ss8kb 8 місяців тому +4

      The only thing heavier will be how fast it depreciates money.

    • @sdp101
      @sdp101 8 місяців тому +2

      Nor are most other cars that size though.

    • @purpleotter10
      @purpleotter10 8 місяців тому

      The roads have got no chance, potholes galore

    • @Zermattquattro
      @Zermattquattro 8 місяців тому +3

      The range rovers and discover 3-4 (plus newer models) have been that weight for the last 15 years but no one makes a deal about them ....ahhh but then this is the anti christ of the Dino juicers.

    • @Zermattquattro
      @Zermattquattro 8 місяців тому +1

      @@interceptor-ss8kbyep just like any land rover product.

  • @mattsoutherden
    @mattsoutherden Місяць тому

    Completely agree on your points about big cars with no space. Car companies seem to start off thinking "we need to make a big car", then the designers use all the tricks in the book to hide the size, which results in a vehicle with a huge footprint and no interior space. The scourge of the Sportback! The EV9 give the impression of being absolutely massive when you see it in person, but I think that's due to the angular design. In reality it's the same size as a Q7. It's also narrower than most big JLRs, X5/X7, GLE, Model X, etc.

  • @nikbeale4624
    @nikbeale4624 8 місяців тому +3

    Your comment on battery use in mobiles and laptops is not really relevant. Mobiles and laptops are not marketed as an environmentally friendly option, an electric car is.

    • @northcountryman
      @northcountryman Місяць тому

      And they still are relative to ICE counterparts.

  • @neo0383
    @neo0383 Місяць тому

    You have hit the nail on the head with your comment about dog owners... having looked at alot of bigger EV's recently they do not have people like me in mind with a big dog box for two dogs, two kids and a ton of out door gear... seriously considering one of these when they are a bit cheaper secondhand...

  • @descb600f
    @descb600f 8 місяців тому +4

    A 5 seater with even bigger boot space would be great some of us want the space not the seats. Dont say buy a Van I dont want to listen to the echos from the back constantly.

    • @derekbilton-heenan854
      @derekbilton-heenan854 8 місяців тому

      A decent sized 5 seater would be nice, we had to buy a 7 seater as needed a car with full sized seats in the back

  • @JP5isalive
    @JP5isalive 8 місяців тому +2

    Update: 76 grand for this featured one. That's a hard pill to swallow my friend. I'm sure it's fantastic in every way possible. These EV's are far far too expensive for the layman to afford. Dacias newest effort is very interesting. However, I'll be sticking with my Civic Tourer diesel for the foreseeable. Criminal that they stopped making them after 2017

  • @Zxr750Nick
    @Zxr750Nick 8 місяців тому +3

    The Kia Carnal (ok, Carnival) Im using in Oz is a total menace in the bong department.... I turn it all off. It's actually dangerous at times, clapping on full anchor mode at the merest whiff of a potential collision.

    • @Low760
      @Low760 8 місяців тому

      Stop tailgating. I don't have those issues.

    • @Zxr750Nick
      @Zxr750Nick 8 місяців тому

      @@Low760 its the autosteer and lane control that are the issue. I use the Radar control cruise no problem, but the other systems are too nannying. Reversing off a 45 degree parking slot is a nightmare of unwanted brake application and beeps.

    • @Zxr750Nick
      @Zxr750Nick 8 місяців тому

      Ps. Don't be a dick. ​@@Low760

    • @Zxr750Nick
      @Zxr750Nick 8 місяців тому

      Ps. Don't be a dick

  • @Stoo48
    @Stoo48 8 місяців тому

    The sheer delight on your face as you operated the seat fold mechanism, fabulous. Sometimes its the little things that surprise and delight us.
    Quite the car, but the price $75k, for a Kia? I hope they succeed, the establishment needs a shakeup.
    Great video, thanks!

  • @DarkArt999
    @DarkArt999 8 місяців тому +12

    That pressure washer nozzle is designed for cleaning pavement, not car paintwork. Am I the only one who found it painful to watch?

    • @danhaines
      @danhaines 8 місяців тому +1

      See my comment

    • @Richard_Turner
      @Richard_Turner 8 місяців тому +3

      Haha just said the very same as soon as I heard it was thinking nooooo.. then again I don't like suvs so have at it 🤣

  • @V_Dubya
    @V_Dubya 8 місяців тому +1

    I like that you call out the seat and seating width. Good for us large units 🤣
    And there is 'knurled'. One of Jonny's favourite words

  • @boringcardriver
    @boringcardriver 8 місяців тому +7

    Posting from a phone with a Lithium ion battery, to point out the battery in the car is 7800 times the size of my phone battery. It’s not really comparable. 😉

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  8 місяців тому +7

      Oh but it is. How long do people keep their phones? 2-4 years. EV batt will last far longer than that, and then can be repurposed for home battery or other purposes.

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 8 місяців тому

      ​​@@TheLateBrakeShow2-4 years?? Ive never had one that lasts longer than a year before it starts constantly shutting down because the battery is done, or the OS gets "update fatigue", or it gets lightly dropped and shatters. Ive been through stacks of the darn things. They appear to be MADE to be disposable and just around the time I finally get it set up the way I want its broken. And these days most people have a phone and a tablet at the same time.

    • @ohyesitsme
      @ohyesitsme 8 місяців тому +1

      @@TheLateBrakeShow Have you seen an EV battery in thermal runaway?

  • @rickybryan1759
    @rickybryan1759 8 місяців тому

    I dunno why but for some reason I kinda like your videos better than the competitors - relaxed energy, good mix of info and entertainment - it’s close lots of good creators out there but I vibe with you Johnny

  • @fastEdCanuck
    @fastEdCanuck 8 місяців тому +4

    Wind is my least favourite element of nature too. 😂

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  8 місяців тому +2

      Unless it makes electricity it's annoying af

  • @texnorthman
    @texnorthman 4 місяці тому

    15:38 - You are spot on. I just bought one of these. Sold my F-150 Raptor, which was my second Raptor. This was the only EV that came anywhere near being big enough to feel comfy after getting used to the excess that is an F-150 Raptor. Looking forward to getting it :)

  • @bodilidily
    @bodilidily 8 місяців тому +5

    Love EV's, hate massive heavy tractors like this.

  • @davidkniveton7792
    @davidkniveton7792 8 місяців тому +2

    Even with the wind outside that seams to be one of the quietest cars I've ever Not heard

  • @d.c.Jones70
    @d.c.Jones70 8 місяців тому +5

    Great video and great car but it’s a lot of money seriously these EV prices are getting ridiculous.

    • @tris7
      @tris7 8 місяців тому

      That’s partly why no-one is buying them

    • @davefitzpatrick4841
      @davefitzpatrick4841 8 місяців тому +2

      So the wise man buys them used , frankly I've always thought it foolish to buy new , all new cars ( irrelevant what power train ) deprecate the most in the first 3 years !

    • @tris7
      @tris7 8 місяців тому

      @@davefitzpatrick4841 he certainly does at the moment!! The used prices of EVs are terrifying-ly brilliant for used buyers. Not so great if you bought one outright or on PCP and thought you might have some equity left after three years… there are a lot of BEVs being handed back. Thank goodness for GAP 🫣

  • @technojoesgroup_ejc
    @technojoesgroup_ejc 7 місяців тому +2

    Classic act Johnny as ever, great review

  • @julianevans9548
    @julianevans9548 8 місяців тому +10

    It's time to put a size and weight limit on cars.
    The manufacturers are out of control - we need laws.

    • @windymiller5058
      @windymiller5058 8 місяців тому +4

      Agreed. You wouldn’t be able to get in your car if one of these monsters parked next to you at the supermarket.

    • @JT-qg4ol
      @JT-qg4ol 8 місяців тому +3

      I believe there is a system in France to this effect.

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 8 місяців тому +2

      A 7-seater EV MPV (for the few people who need to seat 7) that wasn't unnecessarily fast and huge would be a better idea.
      Terrifying that a family car this size is this fast, with acceleration that most buyers won't be used to.

    • @MyMednas
      @MyMednas 8 місяців тому +1

      I've got a family of 6 and a dog. We need a large car. The best selling vehicle on UK roads is the Transit Custom. Size is not a problem.

    • @windymiller5058
      @windymiller5058 8 місяців тому +1

      @@MyMednas So in your eyes this behemoth is fine because other vehicles are big too? 🤦‍♂️

  • @mikejba
    @mikejba 8 місяців тому +1

    Never thought I'd see a Kia at £75k+. A sign of the odd and expensive times we live in, I suppose. Still, if I ever needed to ferry several extreme coffee loving addicts at once then it seems like a good option, as its definitely not short of cup holders. Great review though Jonny, as ever!

  • @AndyQuinton
    @AndyQuinton 8 місяців тому +13

    Jesus wept, the bloody size of the thing! I'll never understand these SUVs.

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 8 місяців тому

      7 seats. Some people actually use them.

    • @AndyQuinton
      @AndyQuinton 8 місяців тому

      ​@@jamesengland7461this is certainly less egregious due to those 7 seats but even still... The footprint of it and the weight of the damn thing! There must be a better way.

  • @nigellutze9981
    @nigellutze9981 8 місяців тому

    Ah ha, everything you have discussed in this video is why I have a Toyota Tarago, (2011 model). This was an upgrade from our much loved 2000 model.
    I asked my family, what should I get when our Camry passes on? and they said, another Tarago. It is just so good for large families with pets and the 4 cylinder engine will do 400k . I know as my last was still running after 460k on the clock.

  • @MuskVideo
    @MuskVideo 8 місяців тому +3

    Multivan is the best seven seater. PHEV smashes this for usability

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  8 місяців тому +1

      Multivan is good. Did you see our review of it?

  • @philiptidmarsh
    @philiptidmarsh 8 місяців тому +1

    I just don't get EV's on any level whether it is the cost , the size, the convenience or the false eco credentials. In my opinion this one is the embodiment of all of my issues with them.However I do enjoy you videos and it is always interesting to learn about these vehicles and may be one day I may change my mind. Your Renault 5 video came close.

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b 8 місяців тому

      -> Cost : EV's don't cost any more than the equivalent petrol or diesel cars !
      -> Size : Vauxhall Corsa, Fiat 500e, Mini Electric are all small cars
      -> Convenience - if you can't charge at home they yes, public charging is expensive and more hassle. Otherwise, if you have a home drive then it's a no brainer !
      -> Eco credentials: most of what you read/watch about EV's on this subject is click-bait nonsense. Charging at home and overnight the power is mostly coming from offshore wind. Batteries are recyclable after use (fuel is not), zero tailpipe emissions and efficient use of energy. EV running emissions is around 30g C02 per mile and improving every year. [Compared to about 430g C02 per mile for a fuel car, if you believe the emissions test data, plus the other pollutants coming out the back]

  • @jonhoneyball194
    @jonhoneyball194 8 місяців тому +4

    Can you turn off the hideous bongs?

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  8 місяців тому +2

      We thiiiink so, but it's bloody annoying. Same in many modern cars now.

    • @jonhoneyball194
      @jonhoneyball194 8 місяців тому

      @@TheLateBrakeShowIt would stop me buying this car if not. Ideally turned off permanently. I would just about accept per-journey. But only just.

    • @SpottedCreeper
      @SpottedCreeper 8 місяців тому

      @@jonhoneyball194 It's a problem with the new Euro NCAP rules - cars need to have all those bonging and binging safety features to get the higher NCAP scores. Also, I think they are required to reactivate each time you leave and return to the car, so you keep having to turn off the settings you don't like. It's madness.
      It needs a driver memory function, so you just press 'Driver A' or B etc, and it automatically sets everything to your preferred on/off settings..

  • @paulbolton8699
    @paulbolton8699 8 місяців тому +1

    Another great video. Love the different approach. Always better than the others..

  • @interceptor-ss8kb
    @interceptor-ss8kb 8 місяців тому +5

    I cant move passed the price of £65,000 for a kia that will no doubt depreciate like throwing a stone off a cliff.

    • @manchegocheese997
      @manchegocheese997 8 місяців тому +1

      I also wonder about the longevity of these vehicles; i.e.what happens when it's 10 years old and needs a new battery?

    • @interceptor-ss8kb
      @interceptor-ss8kb 8 місяців тому +2

      @manchegocheese997 they will be getting scrapped as a replacement battery will be worth more then the car. Same thing happened to the first pre-face lift model S you just don't see them anymore but I've seen loads of them in scrapyards.

  • @megane230f1
    @megane230f1 8 місяців тому +1

    Seen a few of these on the road, a really nice looking motor in real life, look gangsta

  • @angrynortherner3805
    @angrynortherner3805 8 місяців тому +4

    No good for towing a 2t trailer, where would you charge it when towing?

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  8 місяців тому

      Good point. That is an issue for charging positions at the moment.

  • @InfiniteImprobabilityRacing
    @InfiniteImprobabilityRacing 8 місяців тому

    “…needlessly large cars, especially SUVs whose exterior dimensions write cheques their cabins don’t usually cash”.
    Beautifully said, Jonny
    Interesting to hear your comments on the limited towing capacity of most EVs. I don't think this is a limitation of those EVs because they are irrelevant compared with the limitation of range and recharging speed inherent in EVs.

  • @andrewblakesley4202
    @andrewblakesley4202 8 місяців тому +4

    I'm just not sold on giant battery powered SUVs saving the planet. The raw materials for the batteries, the weight, damage to road surfaces, tyre wear and the % of fossil fuel electricity in the network.
    I'm also not sold on pricing ordinary people out of personal transport.
    Is this saving the planet or a stepping stone to a dystopian future where only the rich are free?

  • @johnti1653
    @johnti1653 8 місяців тому +1

    If it really is 2.6 tons, I'd have to say that's not too bad considering it's a full 7 seater with a BIG battery... Land Rovers have been around that or more as ICE cars for decades!

  • @tobyhotston9611
    @tobyhotston9611 8 місяців тому +5

    No

  • @philipbellew9645
    @philipbellew9645 8 місяців тому

    JS does it again with his attire matching the car. Grey/black/white ensemble reflecting the Kia colour choice.
    The car looks to be well suited towards JLR owners if they can get over their branding egos.
    The snow foam does show off the shapes well but lay off that Karcher lance or you’ll be down to the primer in no time.

  • @dougnolan5567
    @dougnolan5567 8 місяців тому +5

    I wonder if it will burn well.. Guess that time will tell.. 🤔🤔

  • @carlmills-warren2012
    @carlmills-warren2012 8 місяців тому +2

    Jonny, serious question - as good as this car seems to be and as many boxes it ticks, is this really worth £76k? I know this is an industry wide issue, and I do believe it to be an issue, the cost of new cars is obscene. Let's focus purely on this car as an example. It's clearly aimed at large families. How many large families are going to want to splash out £76k or £1k+pm? I'm not sure there's many. Then we take into account the residuals on EVs in general, it's far from cost effective.
    I'm a little surprised by how little reference there is to price in the comments. And finally, would people really take this over a Defender 130 with 10k on the clock? Yes, we know Landrover have a poor reliability (and theft) record but head to head, I think I know where the majority would go.
    Thoughts?

  • @summerjunk929
    @summerjunk929 8 місяців тому +3

    Thats mental money for a milk float

  • @JP5isalive
    @JP5isalive 8 місяців тому +1

    65 grand. For a KIA. That's a 3 bed family home up here on the outskirts of Durham city. And not a scruffy part either. Puts it into perspective

  • @duncanworley4802
    @duncanworley4802 8 місяців тому +4

    Look into why EV secondhand cars are falling out a favour which leads me to the next volvo has dropped making EV an it looks like other manufacturers are as well

    • @TheLateBrakeShow
      @TheLateBrakeShow  8 місяців тому +3

      EV residuals have been higher than piston for the past 5+ yrs. All residuals have recently dipped. Please also remember that running costs of EVs are far lower and the batteries are not degrading like so many doubters originally presumed.

  • @neiljoseph904
    @neiljoseph904 8 місяців тому

    Possibly the best review of the EV9 on UA-cam. Thank you, Johnny 🙏🏽🙌🏽 Land Rover are way behind the game. Now just need to convince my wife - she’s waiting for the Defender EV 😩