I have a 64 plate sd4 dynamic, i have put 50k + on my 2.2 d. Only issues i ever had are all tech issues, never mechanical. Door lock failed and the rear camera. Otherwise this has been the most reliable car i ever owned. Its now sat at 102k and still running strong.
If you are considering buying an Evoque, I implore you, steer well clear of the ingenium 2.0 diesel engine. I bought a 2016 model, burgundy red, cream leather interior, absolutely stunning example. It started to go wrong earlier this year and is now junk. After spending over 5k in the last 4 months I met an independent mechanic who told me the honest truth about these engines that were designed and rushed into production because they wanted to replace the ford engine with their own. The DPF system, 2 cats on the exhaust all connected to electronics all to meet emission standards that it couldn't otherwise meet. This is where all of the problems start. Very expensive problems. If I was to intricately explain all the details that lead to the diesel getting past the pistons and diluting the oil I would have to write a novel (I'm pretty close now) Eventually it causes the bearings to fail and then your crankshaft and that will be all she wrote. We're going to look at a new car tomorrow morning and we're stuck with an unusable, unsellable Evoque. At least until we can afford to do SOMETHING with it. Save yourself a lot of time, effort and heartache and avoid the ingenium engines like the plague. Either go for another brand entirely or do your due dilligence. I'll never even LOOK at another Range Rover again. Oh, there's also a huge class action lawsuit going on as I write this because those ingenium engines are blowing up left and right and of course Range Rover are attempting to deny any liability! Keep that in mind.
Thanks so much for explaining all the risks associated with this car. Just for fun I was looking online earlier tonight at Evoques selling around where I live in California, and was shocked to see preowned ‘22 and ‘23 models going for around 40K. Thought that seemed odd and this video and your comment definitely confirmed my suspicions! Bummer that Range Rovers have become so unreliable. I love the aesthetic but I’ll stick with my Subaru Outback Touring XT
I have had my face lift Range Rover evoque for 6 years now I tow a caravan and a small yacht with it done over 60k miles with it and it’s never missed a beat I change the oil every 6 months and have a full service annually other than the odd niggle it has been totally reliable I have owned BMWs in the past and the evoque hasn’t been any more unreliable than them I think regular services premium fuel is a great help in keeping any car reliable as for the timing chain problem bmw have the same type of set up just look on the forums and see how many failures they have had 20k miles is too long on any car for oil changes look after your engine and change it every 6k done this for the last 40 years and had cars do in excess of 200k
Hi Grant, I bought a 2013 Evoque 2.2 diesel Evoque with only 32000 miles on it 3years ago and apart from consumables it’s been spot on! It’s now got 64000 miles and drive it hard and had no bother with it! I actually prefer driving it to my 2023 Honda CRV hybrid!(Over the Cairn o Mount it leaves the Honda for dead!) Great vid as usual!👍👏👏👏❤️
I am planning to buy a similar one that ran 60K miles, my driving is less, and there are not many highways miles. What is the city mileage I can expect?
Great. I’ve got a 2017 mk1 HSE. Great car and touch wood pretty problem-free. I’ve had it since new. Only other pointer I would add is that around this era, there were windscreen leak issues on the top edge due to poor assembly. So that’s worth checking. Mine did, but I found a great guy who could remove and refit it. Still less than 50k miles, so I’m at the point of letting go, whilst all is good. The owner’s dilemma!
If the timing chain stretches, or the plastic chain guide breaks, or diesel gets into the oil, or some of the gearboxes don’t go into drive, Land Rover should feel embarrassed about getting those things wrong. Spend time and money on re-engineering those parts so they can be fixed at the next service. It’s all about reliability and brand reputation. It helps the owners and builds confidence in future buyers that they’ll put right things they got wrong. And builds a reputation (that they should be aiming for) that these things are rugged and very reliable.
Ours is a 2015 2.2 SD4 Dynamic manual. Now 118k miles. Tailgate cracking fixed under warranty. For Haldex cars the rear diff input bearing is too small and can become noisy - not great but a few companies doing re-con jobs at good value and service Haldex too, which is difficult but needs it every 40k miles or so in theory. Steering rack use of aluminium bolts was the main issue on pre 17 cars (could break leaving you with NO steering), now subject to a recall, and done very efficiently but my local dealer, which is excellent. Pre-16 older nav systems / infotainment is a bit rubbish and shuts down occasionally / steering wheel buttons for it get "confused". That all said, very happy with the car for the last 9 years and no plans to sell, still on original brake discs (and only a few sets of pads), tyres last 40k miles per set, cheap service parts (as I guess so many of them), agree the car does drive, ride and handle surprisingly well (ours has the mag ride, which is excellent too) - my other was was a Lotus Elise R for 12 years until a few months ago, so I have a pretty good reference point.
There is also a common and know issue with tailgate hinges. Same hinge is used on manual and electric tailgates but the weight on the electric tailgate is heavy and the hinges crack and the tailgate drops and starts to cause other damage. Same issue on Discovery 5.
Had a 63 plate 2.2 Diesel for 7 years and 80k miles - a few issues, but nothing out of the ordinary. Great car.....though not so sure I would have one of the new ones....
If Range Rover can't be bothered to make well built reliable cars (they charge enough for them when new!) then I can't be bothered to part with my hard earned
Little anecdote for you here. Eldest lad went for an interview for an apprenticeship at our local Land Rover dealership. He was getting on well and having a bit of banter with the Service Manager, when he asked a question about what his typical day at work would be like. The Manager answered, "You'll always be working on these as they're always going wrong!". Needless to say it didn't inspire him with confidence!
I was going to buy a Vogue but decided on a 2013 5n2 vw Tiguan 4motion with 44k miles on the clock and full vw service history instead. At 58k miles i replaced the tryes like for like. Mitchellin latitude cross and there's now 81k miles on the clock and in 11yrs the car has had zero mechanical/electrical issues as the service history shows..Think i made the right choice..
You most definitely did make the right choice. They're not even in the same conversation. The V6 tiguan compared to the Evoque is like Concord parked next to a Spitfire. Brilliant choice! 👌
Great review as always! I’m currently looking at MK1 Evoques. Other than avoiding the Ingenium engines, from experience, does anyone have any guidance on what to look for / check / inspect in these older models prior to purchase?
So which model years still had the ford engine and which ones have the Land Rover engine? I’m looking to buy the 2012/2013 gasoline version. Would be nice if you told that in the video. Apart from that, thanks for the info, good video
Great video, just a question please around companies that provide remedial work for the timing chain, would this be a strip down and replacement? if so would you know the rough costs? cheers
Now I know why the approved used ones only have a Land Rover approved warranty and not their own. Basically they just don’t wanna know. They’re happy to sell brand-new vehicles which are very unlikely to go wrong in the first three years and once they do, they’re simply not the responsibility of Land Rover. They are only interested in selling new vehicles to those who can afford them or those who are prepared to go into a lot of debt to drive one and there are no shortage of those people. They also keep production low to keep demand and prices high. In other words, if you want to own one of these you better have deep pockets or be prepared to take risks of buying an older model.
I have a evoque 2015 with the 9 speed ZF and the Ford td4 2.2 engine. I have always had a problem with the backdoor. When the car is locked I can still Open the door and the alarm will start. Recently from about two weeks ago I got a warning about reduced driving only 2 wheel drive. My car has been good taken care of and never driven hard. It has only made 8600 Swedish miles. I have an appointment at the mechanic next week we will see what the problem is. I’m not taking it to landrover service just talking with them made me afraid of the costs they said it could get up to if it is the oil pump for Haldex that is broke. I’m taking it to a private mechanic’s
Before facelife Evoques have a severe problem with the tank shield: it rusts away in just 6 years. All LandRover have a severe problem with LandRover repair shops: they charge 3 times as much as cheap brands, for no better work. And LandRover tries everything to make it impossible for independent shops, they even changed the maintanance reset procedure because the old way leaked to the public. Buy an OBD tool. So LandRover is an evil company to deal with but be lucky that it is an Evoque, not a Discovery or Range, they are overly complicated, go to trash if something failes. Never buy an ingenium engine, the balance shaft bearings are bad and must be replaced or the engine fails completley. The old 2.2 was reliable, but the 6-speed automatic transmission from Ford was worse than the 9-speed ZF. Change the oil of Haldex at 50000mi, otherwise you get problems with 4x4. The 150HP ED2 gives the same agility and acceleration as the 190HP TD4 because the later one in heavier.
Great review, if you buy an Evoque with the Ingenium engine without any form of warranty, you will committing financial ruin, to be blunt, they are crap engines. 😁
We had the eps fail on my wife’s 2013 TD4 before JLR decided to recall them. That was a costly venture. The Merc GLC we got to replace it had a recall the prevent the eps failure. MB 1 JLR 0
It’s just as well that my parents were £10.00 pomes from Scotland 🏴!!!! Cause if they weren’t I wouldn’t be able to understand a bloody word you said!! Very thick accent!!!! But enjoyable video!!! Regards Ian 👨🎤🇳🇿😎👍🍸🍸 A kiwi living in Queenzland Australia!!!
Strange I’m currently thinking of selling my a45 Mercedes to get an evoque, had enough of Mercedes delearships and need a bigger car, not a fan on Audis, work on BMWs so can’t be bothered with them. But yeah trying to find an evoque with a heads up display
AVOID THE INGENIUM ENGINES AT ALL COSTS. Also do your due dilligence. I will never look at a Range Rover again as long as I live. When things go wrong there tends to be a domino effect. Starting with the PDF. Look it all up under the ingenium 2.0 diesel engine and you will see exactly what I'm talking about.
The Evoque is like the film Margin Call - they bundled up all the biggest most odious pile of excrement they could find, put four wheels on it and sold it to punters without a care.
The Land/Range Rovers products are beautiful, drive very well and perform for what they were intended. Jaguar are well, nothing these days. Honestly if I had the money to waste and wanted a luxury vehicle… I’m gonna go a Land/Range Rover over a Mercedes or BMW any day. They’re all crap, but the Land/Range Rover’s use real leather and better materials.
"BRUTALLY HONEST" methinks someone has been watching another utuber called " it's Joel" who's " brutally honest" reviews are like a 6 week old kitten playing with a toy ....🤣🤣🤣🤣
When all said and done and taking everything into account, generally speaking it would seem that JLR cars are basically S__T! as it would appear is their customer (non) service. Had a Qashqai Diesel (57 plate) from new, not one single problem!
I have a 64 plate sd4 dynamic, i have put 50k + on my 2.2 d. Only issues i ever had are all tech issues, never mechanical. Door lock failed and the rear camera. Otherwise this has been the most reliable car i ever owned. Its now sat at 102k and still running strong.
Purchased a 2015 - 2.0 l - Prestige - Evoque - Changed the oil every 10,000 full synthetic - just hit 350,000 kms. - no major repairs - very happy
If you are considering buying an Evoque, I implore you, steer well clear of the ingenium 2.0 diesel engine. I bought a 2016 model, burgundy red, cream leather interior, absolutely stunning example. It started to go wrong earlier this year and is now junk. After spending over 5k in the last 4 months I met an independent mechanic who told me the honest truth about these engines that were designed and rushed into production because they wanted to replace the ford engine with their own. The DPF system, 2 cats on the exhaust all connected to electronics all to meet emission standards that it couldn't otherwise meet. This is where all of the problems start. Very expensive problems. If I was to intricately explain all the details that lead to the diesel getting past the pistons and diluting the oil I would have to write a novel (I'm pretty close now) Eventually it causes the bearings to fail and then your crankshaft and that will be all she wrote.
We're going to look at a new car tomorrow morning and we're stuck with an unusable, unsellable Evoque. At least until we can afford to do SOMETHING with it.
Save yourself a lot of time, effort and heartache and avoid the ingenium engines like the plague. Either go for another brand entirely or do your due dilligence. I'll never even LOOK at another Range Rover again.
Oh, there's also a huge class action lawsuit going on as I write this because those ingenium engines are blowing up left and right and of course Range Rover are attempting to deny any liability! Keep that in mind.
Does the 2014 model have ingenium engine?
Thanks so much for explaining all the risks associated with this car. Just for fun I was looking online earlier tonight at Evoques selling around where I live in California, and was shocked to see preowned ‘22 and ‘23 models going for around 40K. Thought that seemed odd and this video and your comment definitely confirmed my suspicions! Bummer that Range Rovers have become so unreliable. I love the aesthetic but I’ll stick with my Subaru Outback Touring XT
@@solar_lapse4573 no it doesn’t
so which one (cheapest) to go for?
I have had my face lift Range Rover evoque for 6 years now I tow a caravan and a small yacht with it done over 60k miles with it and it’s never missed a beat I change the oil every 6 months and have a full service annually other than the odd niggle it has been totally reliable I have owned BMWs in the past and the evoque hasn’t been any more unreliable than them I think regular services premium fuel is a great help in keeping any car reliable as for the timing chain problem bmw have the same type of set up just look on the forums and see how many failures they have had 20k miles is too long on any car for oil changes look after your engine and change it every 6k done this for the last 40 years and had cars do in excess of 200k
Is that the petrol or diesel ?
It’s a D180 diesel HSE with the auto gear box
Hi Grant, I bought a 2013 Evoque 2.2 diesel Evoque with only 32000 miles on it 3years ago and apart from consumables it’s been spot on!
It’s now got 64000 miles and drive it hard and had no bother with it! I actually prefer driving it to my 2023 Honda CRV hybrid!(Over the Cairn o Mount it leaves the Honda for dead!)
Great vid as usual!👍👏👏👏❤️
Driving hard is probably the reason why it’s good, reduced risk of dpf issues as driving lightly causes these issues. Next one is regular oil changes.
I have a 2017 Evoque and bought it at 55k miles. It currently sits at 88k miles and I haven't had a single issue with it.
I am planning to buy a similar one that ran 60K miles, my driving is less, and there are not many highways miles. What is the city mileage I can expect?
@@DevJ11probably low 20’s in terms of MPG. I think I’ve seen as high as 29-30mpg on freeway.
Have you used it in a long drive? How’s it?
Same, now at 130k and not a single issue. absolute pleasure to drive.
What enticed you to go for an Evoque over any other car?
I guess I'm not the target market, but I have no idea who it's _for._
Great. I’ve got a 2017 mk1 HSE. Great car and touch wood pretty problem-free. I’ve had it since new.
Only other pointer I would add is that around this era, there were windscreen leak issues on the top edge due to poor assembly. So that’s worth checking. Mine did, but I found a great guy who could remove and refit it.
Still less than 50k miles, so I’m at the point of letting go, whilst all is good. The owner’s dilemma!
If the timing chain stretches, or the plastic chain guide breaks, or diesel gets into the oil, or some of the gearboxes don’t go into drive, Land Rover should feel embarrassed about getting those things wrong. Spend time and money on re-engineering those parts so they can be fixed at the next service. It’s all about reliability and brand reputation.
It helps the owners and builds confidence in future buyers that they’ll put right things they got wrong. And builds a reputation (that they should be aiming for) that these things are rugged and very reliable.
I really enjoy your reviews and your scottish accent makes for easy listening.
Ours is a 2015 2.2 SD4 Dynamic manual. Now 118k miles. Tailgate cracking fixed under warranty. For Haldex cars the rear diff input bearing is too small and can become noisy - not great but a few companies doing re-con jobs at good value and service Haldex too, which is difficult but needs it every 40k miles or so in theory. Steering rack use of aluminium bolts was the main issue on pre 17 cars (could break leaving you with NO steering), now subject to a recall, and done very efficiently but my local dealer, which is excellent. Pre-16 older nav systems / infotainment is a bit rubbish and shuts down occasionally / steering wheel buttons for it get "confused". That all said, very happy with the car for the last 9 years and no plans to sell, still on original brake discs (and only a few sets of pads), tyres last 40k miles per set, cheap service parts (as I guess so many of them), agree the car does drive, ride and handle surprisingly well (ours has the mag ride, which is excellent too) - my other was was a Lotus Elise R for 12 years until a few months ago, so I have a pretty good reference point.
There is also a common and know issue with tailgate hinges. Same hinge is used on manual and electric tailgates but the weight on the electric tailgate is heavy and the hinges crack and the tailgate drops and starts to cause other damage. Same issue on Discovery 5.
Had a 63 plate 2.2 Diesel for 7 years and 80k miles - a few issues, but nothing out of the ordinary. Great car.....though not so sure I would have one of the new ones....
If Range Rover can't be bothered to make well built reliable cars (they charge enough for them when new!) then I can't be bothered to part with my hard earned
Exactly right 👍
Little anecdote for you here. Eldest lad went for an interview for an apprenticeship at our local Land Rover dealership. He was getting on well and having a bit of banter with the Service Manager, when he asked a question about what his typical day at work would be like. The Manager answered, "You'll always be working on these as they're always going wrong!". Needless to say it didn't inspire him with confidence!
I was going to buy a Vogue but decided on a 2013 5n2 vw Tiguan 4motion with 44k miles on the clock and full vw service history instead. At 58k miles i replaced the tryes like for like. Mitchellin latitude cross and there's now 81k miles on the clock and in 11yrs the car has had zero mechanical/electrical issues as the service history shows..Think i made the right choice..
You most definitely did make the right choice. They're not even in the same conversation. The V6 tiguan compared to the Evoque is like Concord parked next to a Spitfire. Brilliant choice! 👌
Thanks for the Advice mate.
Quick help please, Evouqe 2013 the one door style, very clean and clear only 130,000 runs .. Should I ??
Do you have a review of Petrol engine?
Thanx for Advices ! Do you think a New 2024 Evoque MHEV 1.5 Petrol (160 CV ) will have ALL these problems solved/Fixed ? Thank You for your reply.
Great review as always! I’m currently looking at MK1 Evoques. Other than avoiding the Ingenium engines, from experience, does anyone have any guidance on what to look for / check / inspect in these older models prior to purchase?
So which model years still had the ford engine and which ones have the Land Rover engine? I’m looking to buy the 2012/2013 gasoline version. Would be nice if you told that in the video. Apart from that, thanks for the info, good video
My Mitsubishi outlander has done 255000 not one single problem. It'll probably out live me.
My 2.0 ingenium on a rr evoque 2017 has already 168 000 km.
Great video, just a question please around companies that provide remedial work for the timing chain, would this be a strip down and replacement? if so would you know the rough costs? cheers
I have a used 2013. It wouldn't pass inspection, showing I have a light on in my car, but it's not on inside my car.
Great video as always. Another fault is the door locks fail.
My door locks on my evoque have gone. Car won't lock now
Now I know why the approved used ones only have a Land Rover approved warranty and not their own. Basically they just don’t wanna know. They’re happy to sell brand-new vehicles which are very unlikely to go wrong in the first three years and once they do, they’re simply not the responsibility of Land Rover. They are only interested in selling new vehicles to those who can afford them or those who are prepared to go into a lot of debt to drive one and there are no shortage of those people. They also keep production low to keep demand and prices high.
In other words, if you want to own one of these you better have deep pockets or be prepared to take risks of buying an older model.
Whats the best enginencan l get to replace the original one
Thanks for video ❤❤
I have a evoque 2015 with the 9 speed ZF and the Ford td4 2.2 engine. I have always had a problem with the backdoor. When the car is locked I can still Open the door and the alarm will start. Recently from about two weeks ago I got a warning about reduced driving only 2 wheel drive. My car has been good taken care of and never driven hard. It has only made 8600 Swedish miles. I have an appointment at the mechanic next week we will see what the problem is. I’m not taking it to landrover service just talking with them made me afraid of the costs they said it could get up to if it is the oil pump for Haldex that is broke. I’m taking it to a private mechanic’s
Before facelife Evoques have a severe problem with the tank shield: it rusts away in just 6 years.
All LandRover have a severe problem with LandRover repair shops: they charge 3 times as much as cheap brands, for no better work. And LandRover tries everything to make it impossible for independent shops, they even changed the maintanance reset procedure because the old way leaked to the public. Buy an OBD tool.
So LandRover is an evil company to deal with but be lucky that it is an Evoque, not a Discovery or Range, they are overly complicated, go to trash if something failes.
Never buy an ingenium engine, the balance shaft bearings are bad and must be replaced or the engine fails completley. The old 2.2 was reliable, but the 6-speed automatic transmission from Ford was worse than the 9-speed ZF. Change the oil of Haldex at 50000mi, otherwise you get problems with 4x4. The 150HP ED2 gives the same agility and acceleration as the 190HP TD4 because the later one in heavier.
Great review, if you buy an Evoque with the Ingenium engine without any form of warranty, you will committing financial ruin, to be blunt, they are crap engines. 😁
We had the eps fail on my wife’s 2013 TD4 before JLR decided to recall them. That was a costly venture. The Merc GLC we got to replace it had a recall the prevent the eps failure. MB 1 JLR 0
Whatever you pay for 1 , have as much money in the bank in reserve!!!!!🎉
You could do a buyers review on the Mitsubishi Shogun the Landrover alternative...
It’s just as well that my parents were £10.00 pomes from Scotland 🏴!!!!
Cause if they weren’t I wouldn’t be able to understand a bloody word you said!!
Very thick accent!!!!
But enjoyable video!!!
Regards Ian 👨🎤🇳🇿😎👍🍸🍸
A kiwi living in Queenzland Australia!!!
His is a very soft accent mate
Greating from Australia
I wanted to thank you for your informative review; not the most user friendly accent though 😂
These are just bought as a fashion statement lets be honest. There's not much substance beneath the facade. I wouldn't touch one.
At some point, kindly review a Nissan Xtrial 2.0 Litre Diesel from 2018 ( face lift ) model TEKNA variant : thanks ; Good review Clan 🎉
I've found a Range Rover Evoque Diesel 2.0L 2019 With 97.000 KM on it, still running and no repair history, should I?
Run away fast as you can.
What about 2019 and above!!
Shouldn't have these faults in this day and age, its cost cutting on vital components and disrespectful to owners.
I want a CR-V but my wife wants an Evoque.. pray for me I make the right choice..
find a mechanic that tells you the truth about range rover reliability (I found 4 out of 4) and have your wife talk to him and reason her out of it.
Dont concern yourself about the
Reliability , it will be nicked by the time its a worry to you ...
😂
I was really wanting to buy an Evoque until I watched this review 😅😅
same here
me too 🙁
Bottom line:if you go out there and find a good one,make sure you ll buy a Honda CRV instead!
If you want to do a buyers guide on my Lexus LC, let me know? :)
Would love to! Can you drop me an email? Grant@scottishcarclan.com. Cheers!
@@ScottishCarClan Thanks Grant, I will drop you a line now.
Strange I’m currently thinking of selling my a45 Mercedes to get an evoque, had enough of Mercedes delearships and need a bigger car, not a fan on Audis, work on BMWs so can’t be bothered with them. But yeah trying to find an evoque with a heads up display
AVOID THE INGENIUM ENGINES AT ALL COSTS. Also do your due dilligence. I will never look at a Range Rover again as long as I live. When things go wrong there tends to be a domino effect. Starting with the PDF. Look it all up under the ingenium 2.0 diesel engine and you will see exactly what I'm talking about.
Quick JLR review.
Thinking about buying one?
Dont
The end
🤣
So which ones are the better options to buy (make, model) around the same price range?
Avoid the ingenium engines at all costs. Especially the 2.0 diesel. Go for the bigger engines if possible but still do as much research as you can.
Owned exclusively by cee you next Tuesdays
The Evoque is like the film Margin Call - they bundled up all the biggest most odious pile of excrement they could find, put four wheels on it and sold it to punters without a care.
Why anyone buys JKR cars are totally beyond me 🤷🏻♂️❗️
The Land/Range Rovers products are beautiful, drive very well and perform for what they were intended. Jaguar are well, nothing these days.
Honestly if I had the money to waste and wanted a luxury vehicle… I’m gonna go a Land/Range Rover over a Mercedes or BMW any day. They’re all crap, but the Land/Range Rover’s use real leather and better materials.
Break replacement because of noise, windshield leaking, and a timing chain replacement all under 100k. I will never own another Range Rover.
"BRUTALLY HONEST" methinks someone has been watching another utuber called " it's Joel" who's " brutally honest" reviews are like a 6 week old kitten playing with a toy ....🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like these are ticking time bombs...
Avoid
They’re utter tripe
built for leases buiness only no intention to let anyone own one form ore than 5 years lr is now the definition of disposable cars
excellent
never buying one
When all said and done and taking everything into account, generally speaking it would seem that JLR cars are basically S__T! as it would appear is their customer (non) service.
Had a Qashqai Diesel (57 plate) from new, not one single problem!