My wife has a 67 plate Evoque Autobiography 300PS petrol and it’s been lovely. Only 26,000 miles so far but zero problems other than water ingress into reversing camera. It dries out on its own but every winter it fogs up again. We had an older one previously and sold it only because we went abroad for a couple of years. That was almost identical and no faults over three years.
I ran an XF from new to over 100k miles - no issues. We have had an evoque from new - done 60k miles - no issues - just ordered another one. I had a merc e class - perpetually in the garage to try and solve issues - also a bm 5 series with huge issues - you can be lucky or unlucky!! The one brand that seems to stand out for reliability is Lexus. I have it first hand from the owner of Lexus, Skoda and Peugeot dealer that literally the Lexus has virtually zero faults.
I have an 03 Lexus RX. This car is boringly reliable. Its too good. I literally keep driving it trying to find fault. Looking to replace with something newer but not sure about these RR. I'll just get a GX
Had a MK1 and now the owner of a Mk2 brand new at 19 one of the first out, in fact a first edition. We have put 48,000miles without the car missing a beat. Heating and vent screen stayed blank for 1 journey other than that nothing. Beautiful comfortable car to drive and love every minute. Do people only go on forums to complain and the silent majority just get on with pleasure of driving and ownership?
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In the interest of balance. I purchased my 69 plate with 6k miles from Land Rover (2.5 D180 SE). It was 18 mths old and I keep it regularly serviced by L/R. I have experienced none of the problems that have been mentioned. In fact my one and only quibble would be that the SatNav isn’t the most reliable that I’ve used. Other than that I love the vehicle.
My wife has this car,little problem with the button for the heated seat ( it stuck) L/R Eventually replaced the whole top and bottom screen,apart from that no problem,I have the Velar,small problem with the adblue pump that was replaced quickly,again no other problems but it did take the franchise a year to issue me with a second key for both cars …both bought new.
My wife wanted to buy one of these a few months ago, but thankfully I convinced her that she would not enjoy battling with our local JLR dealer, as they have a terrible reputation. She has since bought a Volvo XC40 and loves it! Great video and I hope it saves 'potential' Evoque owners the trauma of owning one.
Ive had my 2013 SD4 since 2017 with 45k miles. I've been lucky. I'm reaching 95 going on to 100k miles. Its sublime, I've only had minor service jobs. The biggest problem is the door locking mechanism failing. It doesn't effect how it drives, I'm getting it fixed by my local Land Rover specialist John Kemp near Wymondham. If you want an Evoque, get a first gen.
This is also my experience of pretty much all the many and varied cars I’ve driven over the past 40 years since passing my test , I still do around 24,000 a year and had no major failures except in a 1984 Astra 😂it’s about how you drive with sensitivity where needed and regular servicing has been my experience
Just got rid of my 69 plate evoque had it from brand new 100 miles on the clock. Serviced it regularly, we did have a issue with the DPF which happened just out of the warranty period but thankfully Land Rover Huddersfield sorted on a good will gesture. Other then that it’s been a good lil car, we put 30,000 on it in the end. It’s gone now onto the next
Owned this into the 3rd year. I have the P250 HSE spec with digi dash, headsup display, pivi pro, keyless entry = absolutely none of the issue thats mentioned.
I have 2020 Evoque petrol and haven’t had a problem. It’s brilliant. I had a Discovery Sport before that and it had no problems either. I have no complaints about Land Rover and im having a hard time believing that they’re as unreliable as you claim.
I had one a Land Rover Sport - and it was horrible!! Constantly had issues with it. I love the look of Range Rover but I am scared of their reliability. I'm glad you've had no complaints but that is not everyone's experience. It's bigger than a claim it's a reality.
It seems like all the technology issues could be firmware based. The sad thing is, we are being bombarded with technology in this day and age that is so unreliable and causes more frustration than its worth bothering with. This is probably why pre 1995 vehicles are increasing in value because people are reverting back to the older vehicles because the technology of these years is proven and tested.Yet the Japanese seem to get it right more often than not so why that, this needs to be asked.
the Japanese cars are based on the tech that is previously released in europe but they take more time to work it through and bring it to market later and make it more reliable
I bought a 6 month old Evoque (Diesel) in Feb 2020 (just before Covid struck) and over the next two years did 22,000 miles trouble free in it. Brilliant car but was a bit too small for us so I part-exchanged it for a Jaguar F-pace in May 2022 and the trade in allowance was only 2,000 pounds less than I paid for the car from the same JLR dealership. My youngest daughter has recently (mid Sept 2023) taken delivery of a new Evoque Hybrid and it's spent six week in the garage awaiting a replacement battery.
You have to sit and test drive one to appreciate why they are so appealing. I've been lucky with a Disco Sport and I've become an LR fan. I can't stomach buying another with the fear of issues and stupid insurance costs now.
Buy a Honda CRV. Never any issues, i have had three of them. Bought a Disco Sport from Carbase, sold it with a clogged DPF which had to be replaced using my expensive RAC warranty with a small contribution from Carbase. Looking for a new Honda CRV now.
You’re lucky… mine blew its Turbo just out of warranty. £3500 bill. Sensors for ABS broke. Lovely ride but I sold early and will never by another JLR product
Just subscribed . Glad I bought my 71 BMW 2.0d X1. Never ever thought about buying a Range Rover. Neighbour has a brand new latest model RR hybrid and its already been in the garage with gearbox out.
I accidentally bought a reliable discovery 5 HSE lux TD6 2018 with 50000 miles and 6 owners. Had parking sensor issue when I collected and an issue with rear window regulator. Both replaced under warranty. Honestly Since then it’s been great. 1 year 12000 miles later and it never misses a beat. I bought knowing that it could have issues and be unreliable but I needed the size 1080litres of boot with 5 seats in place. I think main issue is it’s 1/3 cars has an issue whereas with my Porsche before it was more like 1/30. My experience with cars is as long as they are used regularly and given a run every now and then. You look online and cars do 250000miles. Time will tell but planning to keep for a 2nd year which is rare for me. Honesty I would buy a Range Rover with miles and look for one which the owner had been the same for 2-3 years before. Likely issues would have been picked up and fixed
I have friends who work for JLR, they said never buy a Range Rover or if you do get rid of it after two years as they start to fail and they cost a fortune to fix and the aftercare is a nightmare
I have 2012 evoque with 2.0 petrol engine until now, the car has only no problem since new ! Only regular maintenance like Oil change, brakepads and coolant reservoir just now because the plastic brittle a little bit
@leemc4093. My Evoque has just broken down & the garage said exactly the same thing to me there shit ! After 3 years old there not worth the trouble cost a fortune to fix & insurance is expensive - mines 5 years old and it’s going not reliable & I need a reliable car xxx
The early Ingenium engined diesels had bad oil dilution issues (about 2016-2019) needing oil changes every few thousand miles (LR paid for the extra oil changes for 5 years/50K miles to push the problem away from warranty claims!). But how much long term damage done with diluted oil not lubricating the engine properly.
Interesting and informative video. To add balance I had a first generation Evoque and since 2019 bought a second generation. Both D180 and both cars have proved extremely reliable. Now at 35k and only issue has been front door rubbing which is a known problem. I don’t do short journeys so maybe that helps but in all honesty I use a great dealership in Duckworths which ensures it gets its software updates and looks after customers.
Well at least it comfortable to sit in while waiting for the recovery truck :o) as long as you don't want to listen to the radio that may or may not be working at the time.
Great video. As an owner of a number of JLR ‘cars’, even though I adore the aesthetics, they are the most unreliable cars I’ve ever encountered. And on top of this, the company are unresponsive, conniving and dishonest. Their dealers will lie and try to con you out of £thousands. I scrapped an almost 6 year old XF because, after £10k+ of warranty repairs, the DPF inherent fault kicked in and destroyed the engine. Full Jaguar service history, I might add. Jaguar took no liability and wanted over £12k to fix it. New engine and both turbo’s. (could have been a lot more but I just walked out when the manager got to £12k) Their cars don’t have little niggles like some makes, JLR cars have life changing faults that, unless you’re Elon Musk, will ruin your bank accounts. Admire them but for your sanity’s sake, do not buy one.
You might get lucky but the odds are that your experience of the car and of JLR will be repeated. They have not changed since the early 1980’s. I think the unreliability and particularly the attitude to customer service and their customers is handed down from generation to generation. After three Range Rovers, a Discovery and four Land Rovers, I finally saw the light and could sleep at night with a relatively safe bank account. At one point I ran a OneTen, Discovery and a Range Rover at the same time and I spent a disproportional amount of time just keeping these roadworthy. I changed two of them and a Mitsubishi Shogun for three Nissan Terrano one day and had three glorious trouble free years.
@@hedydd2 One at a time was bad enough with nightmares, but three of them would give me a breakdown. 😱 We did have two together but only for a very short time, an S-Type and a Discovery. We sold the Discovery pretty quick after buying the Jaguar. I would only have one at a time. 😬 The absolute only one of either marque that I’d buy now is an old 90/110 as, as you know, they’re bolt on/bolt off. I’d love a Series lll as a project because that’s a trip down memory lane of happy days but unlikely now.
Very true the problems iv had with Land Rover main dealers I had a simple problem sometimes it wouldn’t start might be 30sec or minutes. Are it’s the battery no it’s not I said anyway fitted then it was injectors then pump etc etc. I said to them are you trying to build me a new car out of all the parts you’re putting on and the problem is still there. Refused to pay in the end. They cancelled two grand bill in the end. Never again😢
Beautiful Car. No other brand can come anyware close for the exclusive look and feel of an RR. Just needs sorting, and there will emerge plenty of specialist garages able to fix problems. Still gets my vote.
Yes reliability is well known to be dreadful, but people still buy them for the brand name, and when they work they are very good. JLR have no real incentive to improve if they still sell well. I drove full size Range rovers for many years, they were not too bad, but plenty better cars now, so I have finished with JLR.
It is well known to be dreadful how? By someone that has never owned one recently posting a comment 'because they saw it once on the internet'? Or, by actual owners? Read a lot of the comments on here and yours seems out of date.
It never ceases to amaze me how many sites have RR owners making excuses, commonly "These are high tech cars and all such cars go wrong:, Much as I love the looks of RR cars - no guys, other high tech cars don't all go wrong. I have never had problems with Mercedes including S and SL class. If only RR would tackle this instead of relying on people buying for their prestige image.
I had 2019 Range Rover HSE , first month I got engine light 3 times, dealer try fix , finally after 3rd times, they fix, after that 3 years transmission broke need replace, 3 years I only drove 16000 miles, after that engine light came back...... I love Range Rover look and feel, but too much issue, Friends told me once warranty expired sale right away, because will cause so much money to fix. I sold my Range Rover after 4 years, now I drove Lexus, no issue at all🥰
We've had two Evoques and both suffered from DPF issues which put the car into limp mode. Both times Land rover didn't want to know and basically said it's down to your driving style, you need to be doing high speed long journeys regularly to clear the filter. Funny how neither dealer mentioned it at the point they sold them to us , and we found out that it's a common criticism of Land rover dealers and the company itself they don't want to let the public know how unreliable and poorly designed these expensive piles of crap actually are . AVOID AT ALL COSTS!
Its true of many cars - I did a fair chunk of motorway miles in my previous car (a Ford) and it used the regeneration - but the DPF still ended up getting so clogged up to the point to needing to replaced twice in the 10yrs I owned it (not from new). It is a little bit down to you to know that - as all diesel cars clog up eventually as its a dirty fuel . From what Ive seen Landrovers are well engineered and your comment is a bit unfair - I certainly would have had one over my previous car any day
I would AVOID YOUR POST AT ALL COSTS. Every single diesel vehicle that has a DPF needs to take regular runs above a certain speed so the DPF regeneration can do it's job. This is not high speed long journeys as you claim, but just following the manufacturer's guidelines. How on earth can you have had TWO Evoques and not known this? Are you really saying you bought a second after having issues with the first. BS.
I had a Honda CRV diesel which had 113,000 miles on it when I sold it and never had an issue with it and I didn't do a lot of long journeys. I am now on a Tiguan diesel auto and it has just reached 25,000 miles with no problems.
Pity about the Evoques giving LR a bad name, which were the replacement for the LR Freelander 2 which still today is a very reliable 2nd hand SUV with a great reliable 2.2 diesel engine,I have had mine 11 years now, 80'000 miles only had new brakes, tyres, annual services, one oil cooler rubber pipe, timing belt kit in 11 years and just as reliable as my previous 2010 SUV Toyota RAV 4. But my Freelander 2 LS has a better sound system with factory fitted subwoofer, plush leather seating, nicer interior and far better off road capabilities and the paintwork is fab not one blemish chip or corrosion on a 2013 plate it can go to my grave with me modern diesels engines are adblue chocked up DPF crap. LR Freelander 2 - 2,2 Diesel has nil problem with short journeys, once a month kick its ass along the motorway 5th gear at 70mph for 10 ish miles job done.
Over the last 15years I’ve had 5 landrover’s, averaging 35000mls a years. Got to say never had any problems with any of them. Luck of the draw I guess!
most people that have big problems are second or third owners who buy a high mileage cheap Land Rover and try to run it on a shoe string. these cars are expensive when new and they should be serviced properly.
We had 2 Discoveries, the second one was to replace the really bad first one but changed under warranty. They are beautifully designed, but badly built with very poor customer service. I've just ordered my 7th New BMW, I'm replacing an x5 with 140,000 on the clock and all I have changed is the oil, tyres and brake. I've ordered an x7, I wish I had the time to own a Range Rover, but can't face visiting the dealer every other week with faults
I had a Jaguar F-Type (same company) with those exact electrical issues. Turns out, along the passenger side frame kind of under the edge of the seat/where you step over to get in and out, there was a short in the wires. There was a support or bracket of some sort near the harness/conduit that managed to wear a hole in the harness and one of the wires in the harness. Randomly the bracket would touch the cut wire’s bare metal and short the system. Going down the road and it would suddenly have these exact problems with the screen and sound. Other lights would flicker.
As a previous owner of the Evoque they are a nightmare car to own and their service department will make you want to cry. Don’t buy a Land Rover . You have been warned.
Buy a Honda, Toyota, or Lexus or indeed Subaru… find a good independent old school expert mechanic, service your purchase and live in reliability heaven…. Honest I’ve had 5 Hondas….
I chopped my Evoque in after 2 years. I had only had the car for six months and it had £5k of warranty work done on front suspension and alternator. Insurance costs high, running costs high, reliability low. Buy the extended warranty as there are no cheap repairs on one of these things. My mark 1 was far superior, 89000 miles of trouble free motoring. Now got a Toyota as I wanted a brand with better reliability.
I love the convertible model of these. I used to own a Land Rover Freelander they had a lot of problems too, at 50,000 miles head gasket was going out. I think it the same with most luxury cars the more bells and whistles the more things to go wrong.
Had a 69 petrol one on lease, lovely car but dealers were crap. It started sounding like a bag of spanners after about a year. Went to the dealers x 2 and they wanted £180 to check it out despite it obviously being a warranty issue. Luckily when it went in for service I met a Sevice Guy with a bit of sense. He said it was probably anti roll bar bushes. they actually kept stock as it was quite a common problem. Sure enough he was right and they were changed under warranty. Lovely car let down by bad (except for one guy who knew what he was talking about) backup, Wouldn't buy one that's why I leased.
The 2.0 diesels have a balancer shaft issue where they need replacing. I’ve seen a TSB where if they need replacing then they get the original part numbers fitted and if they fail again they fit the revised parts. Not great. When I had mine it went in for the balancer shaft replacement but when the techie started the work he discovered that it was the turbo at fault and not the balancer shafts. All fixed under warranty
69 plate D180 with 31k miles FSH in the garage for a new turbo, old turbo actuator completely dead. Water ingress on the L/H tail late has all but killed the left indicator. Had 3 years of faultless driving until the past couple months.
Absolutely crackin car the CR-V. My dad still has his 2008 model and it has almost everything my brand new cupra has and still looks amazing. Reliable, well made (to last) car
A friend of mine is a main agent mechanic They normally put 4 2.0 ingunim engines in a week there even putting in the 3.0 td6 When I was there a new defender 3.0 came in with a sized engine
That’s because it’s basically the same engine. The block is manufactured from a three cylinder right up to the six cylinder straight. Petrol or diesel it’s all the same platform. Personally, I don’t find the 2 L that bad just a timing chain is crap on the early engines and using 0W 30, combined with DPF is useless after it’s run in just switch over to 5W 30
Interesting video , I'd love one of these as the design is very nice. But , I know lr products can be iffy. So , I bought a Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross 2019 auto 4wd. Wow , what a car - looks similar to the Evoque but no problems so far at 28k miles. 1.5 petrol turbo, 160 bhp. And Japanese reliability.👍
I owned a 2016 HSE Dynamix Lux model from 16k miles, within 6k of driving/owning I had issues with the windscreen leaking on the driver side, so had to do a complete removal and reseal, had numerous issues with the DPF and parasite drain that a couple of garages could not fix. The seal on the reverse camera went so had to replace that. Only after experiencing these issues did I find out they are common issues with the car. So it had to go and never again will I own another Range Rover
My boss had a Range Rover Autobiography in the first nine months of ownership it went to the dealers eight times for a total of four and a half months without his car, he subsequently sold the car and bought a Lexus.
I have a lot of JLR products, without having alot of problems. I had more problems with german makes, and the thing about the LR products is that they are really useable for towing and going offroad or on snowy paths, wich most of the cars in the Evoque class isnt.
Have these improved any now by 2022-23-24? Is the Sport having the same issues? Tyres are 19" yes? Can you put the 22" Sport tyres on the Evoque? (Sport is actually 23" for 2024) How come all new cars in GB get 45-65MPG but in the States it only gets 19mpg City / 21mpg HWY vs UK MPG? Saw this with the Benz's too. Different emissions? Or cylinders/HP? Spec-wise they appear the same for 2023-2024 models. Just don't understand why most cars in the UK get double the gas mileage? Also if you look on several car sites asking which is the most reliable year... ironically thru 2020 they list the 2017 and 2019 as "most reliable"? I don't get how after 13 years outside of the old Discoveries made for the Sahara that Rover can't get their act together? It's also cheaper to buy in the US for some reason. Unsure why unless it's VAT vs ,US sales 6% vs VAT 20% tax? BTW; saw another reviewer say comparing a 2022 Evpoque vs a version 2 "Sport" (£112k!!) said "taxes" per year were about £100 quid less for this model. Was he talking about tax disc? Or what other tax is annual? Why do they demand more taxes after sales or VAT tax? Spent 9 yrs in London and everything has an extra price attached to it. Can only imagine now with interest rates and inflation skyrocketing why a decently equipped Sport is $135K (USD) here (2023) and the Evoque is around $68k equally equipped. Thoughts?
@@ScottishCarClan First one was a 2014 with 11,000 on when I bought it and 38,000 when I sold. Second was a 2016 with about 15,000 on when bought and about 42,000 when I sold. 3rd was a 2017 with about 18,000 on when I bought and about 46,000 when sold and the latest is a 2020 se with 23,000 on when bought and now has 26,000. All were diesels. However, I don’t do short runs. Most were over 30 miles and the shortest would be 16 miles of motorway to work and back again. Maybe they don’t like short stop start traffic on the dpf. Got to add, oil was changed every 6000 miles with correct oil with the LR code. Wrong oil eats the timing chains I was told.
Wife has a D150 only problem in 40k has been door handle not retracting back. Fixed under warranty. Probably a ticking time bomb but you can't sell them now anyway as the market has collapsed.
I transported the series 2 to Spain for advertising film/still work, took 4 there 3 broke down due to DPF issues, the 3 replacements broke down due to DPF issues, wouldn't have a RR if they were giving them away.
I'm glad I saw videos like this and forums - I was considering a P300e. Not anymore.... The hybrid setup is purely to meet EU regulations and all it's done is add needless complexity. In turn, you have to ask if it's even greener if a car is getting an endless supply of replacement parts.
Great video. I’m one of the lucky ones. I’ve had my 20Y D150 for 3 years 17000 miles without any mechanical issues. The infotainment system can be sometimes a problem.
As someone used to Japanese cars for twenty years, I am pleased that I have not bought any LR products (had a Jag which was pants) and sorry at their lack of reliability as I would love one.
The DPF issue is due to the architecture of where the DPF sits in the Evoque. I have read a specialist engineers article about why the DPF does not function correctly as it is not in the optimum place to operate. Therefore some owners who even do long journeys suffer DPF issues, where JLR keep copping out stating driver error e.g. only doing short journey's. In 2017 the updated software to all diesel vehicle from 2015 ingenium engines to set of 'service required' light when oil dilution was above about 4/5% (can't remember actual figure) if you dip checked oil & found it to be above correct level then you have oil dilution & needs to be changed. The incontrol app is helpful to see soot levels & ad blue levels in advance.
Bought a RRE 2020 from Arnold Clark 8 weeks ago and been in the garage for 7 weeks with a constant engine light on that no garage can seem to find what the problem is, lovely looking car but now dollying with the idea of returning it 🤔
was thinking of putting my 2018 Skoda Karoq in ptx for a 68 plate Evoque autobiography - just fancied more luxury but am scared by the bill risk...even with FSH...
Last year bought a preowned Jag XF from a JLR Dealer in Milton Keynes. I think it has now been back seven times since then trying to permanently fix an Engine Warning Light problem. Now they want me to pay £1600 to try and fix it again!
Hi. Great movie and cheers for honest review on this car. I personally don’t quite get this car, due to its unreliability, but I suppose it’s pretty much horses for courses.
thanks for a great review ...im looking to buy ....but latest news is Landrover dealers are stacking cars .for repair ... because spares are not available!?! ....due to a new central warehouse distribution system . ..er not working!?! .... a great shame ..
Great car and the 2.2 diesel engine much more reliable than the Ingenium 2.0 diesel and less expensive electronics to go wrong; definitely keep the Freelander!
It's sad to see what some people been through with their Land Rovers. I must be lucky because I've been driving my Discovery Sport for 8 years and the only thing I've had to replace is the battery. My wife drives a plugin hybriid Evoque and so far her main complaint is with the frequent over-the-air software updates that keep returning all her personal settings back to to default....... when I hear a scream I know LR has just 'updated' her car 🤣🤣
On 2nd evoque, I would only buy the 2.0d. Never had any of the problems outlined. As a mechanic however I would not advise buying the diesel for short journeys its just not meant to be. Also re the ad blu I or we have never had a problem with Ad blu. But you can only tell it as it is. Final thing, like all L/R vehicles they need servicing and lots of care they are not designed for the daily school run thats for sure. Lol
We're considering a new P300e on the employer salary sacrifice scheme.. im not convinced but the missus loves the Evoque. Theyre not cheap and not generous with their equipment unless you go up in the range and cost!
Well I seriously hope I dont run into that main issue at the lights , I am in the process of changing from a very very troublesome I-Pace to a 2020 first edition petrol evoque. My I-Pace has been in the service department at JLR now for the past 3 and a half months .. they are at this point unable to fix it , but have said its going to be a 20hr labour charge when they are able to change the main body harness ... so I am taking the hit financially and changing cars. I just hope I dont jump from the frying pan into the fire. My issue with the I-Pace , bank of errors suddenly on start up that now wont go away consisting of , reduced power mode , forward alert disabled , AEB braking disabled , high voltage battery alert , drive train alerts etc etc. Cant put the car in park , reports speed to high for park when stationary .. flashes the park light constantly so wont go to sleep and slowly drains the battery because of this. Cant engage the parking brake but when the cars off , it will randomly engage it with no visual que .. so when you go to drive off , it tries to move but the brake is stuck on .. cant use the electronic park to then disengage the brake .. but just sitting there it will randomly disengage the parking brake. They thought it was software updates at first , then a wheel speed sensor , then the wheel speed sensor wiring loom that goes to all 4 wheels , then the service department had to confer with JLR techs at the factory who gave them a list of things to try and now after all that they say its the main body harness which will take 10 weeks to order and 20 hours labour to fit requiring the whole drivetrain to be removed and refitted. All this on a car that is JUST out of warranty and only has 10300 miles on the clock .. I have had a shocking experience with it ... I would just walk away from the brand but I cant wait for the car to be fixed and the only way I can get rid of it and only lose a few grand , is to part ex it with them so I am moving back to petrol and trying an Evoque .. so as I said , I really hope this unable to pull off issue isnt my next major problem.
We have a 2017 series 1 from new that this last year has been a nightmare. Water leak from the AC system that took 4 visits by various garages to resolve. New Injectors and now a new DPF. Without doubt the short journeys I think are the problem. For all that it’s comfortable and my missus loves it. 12:07 I’ve had two Jaguar XE’s with the same Diesel Ingenium and all on Ad Blue. At 2 years old one had done 58k. The second ( best car I’ve ever had) 70k at 3 years. Between the Jags I had a Disco Sport that did 50k in 2 years and now a Velar which is not 18 months old yet but has done 35k. With all my cars I use for work I’m convinced due to the mileage, they have been faultless. Just need to use them - a lot.
@@ScottishCarClan it was when the F-pace was launched in 2016. My first was rejected at 6 months old due to many electrical gremlins and the replacement reject at 3 months due to a noise coming from the drivetrain that couldn’t be identified. Shoddy engineering.
I have an 2018 Evoque, no problems here, it has been very reliable. Oil change every 6 months, use premium diesel every other tank and give it a run down motorway every other week. Lot of cat for the money.
Owned jaguar F pace 2019 for six months same parts basically. The steering rack failed driving in heavy rain 48k on car had to reject the car as parts are not avialable back order approx waiting time 2 months. My experience jlr they do not acknowledge there is a problem even though read forums many owners have experienced the same problem. My advice stay away from JLR ive gone to a Toyota rav4 different class in reliability and customer care.
Bought my wife a new evoque first edition in 2019 only done 12k todatej ust had a load of issues been in this week for new water bottle that was leaking, service manager said it was my fault for only topping up with water not adding screenwash ? Wanted to charge £310 to fix , gearbox is awful can't make up it's mind what gear to go in, ride quality terrible feel every bump, had new head display unit, as mentioned it stopped working no media sat nav parking Bluetooth radio. Can honestly say it's the worst car we've ever owned.
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My wife has a 67 plate Evoque Autobiography 300PS petrol and it’s been lovely. Only 26,000 miles so far but zero problems other than water ingress into reversing camera. It dries out on its own but every winter it fogs up again. We had an older one previously and sold it only because we went abroad for a couple of years. That was almost identical and no faults over three years.
I ran an XF from new to over 100k miles - no issues. We have had an evoque from new - done 60k miles - no issues - just ordered another one.
I had a merc e class - perpetually in the garage to try and solve issues - also a bm 5 series with huge issues - you can be lucky or unlucky!!
The one brand that seems to stand out for reliability is Lexus. I have it first hand from the owner of Lexus, Skoda and Peugeot dealer that literally the Lexus has virtually zero faults.
I have an 03 Lexus RX. This car is boringly reliable. Its too good. I literally keep driving it trying to find fault. Looking to replace with something newer but not sure about these RR. I'll just get a GX
Had a MK1 and now the owner of a Mk2 brand new at 19 one of the first out, in fact a first edition. We have put 48,000miles without the car missing a beat.
Heating and vent screen stayed blank for 1 journey other than that nothing. Beautiful comfortable car to drive and love every minute. Do people only go on forums to complain and the silent majority just get on with pleasure of driving and ownership?
In the interest of balance. I purchased my 69 plate with 6k miles from Land Rover (2.5 D180 SE). It was 18 mths old and I keep it regularly serviced by L/R. I have experienced none of the problems that have been mentioned. In fact my one and only quibble would be that the SatNav isn’t the most reliable that I’ve used. Other than that I love the vehicle.
Really useful video! Imagine if Range Rover took the time to make a reliable model. Would be the only thing on the road
My wife has this car,little problem with the button for the heated seat ( it stuck) L/R Eventually replaced the whole top and bottom screen,apart from that no problem,I have the Velar,small problem with the adblue pump that was replaced quickly,again no other problems but it did take the franchise a year to issue me with a second key for both cars …both bought new.
It is reliable mine never had a day off the road in 4 years and the is a MY20 P250.
My wife wanted to buy one of these a few months ago, but thankfully I convinced her that she would not enjoy battling with our local JLR dealer, as they have a terrible reputation. She has since bought a Volvo XC40 and loves it! Great video and I hope it saves 'potential' Evoque owners the trauma of owning one.
I've had my 2019MY Evoque from new. 105k on the clock. Zero issues. All makes of cars have issues.
lol
It's taken me 12 months to get my 2013 salvage Evoque which had an engine fire to be 100% reliable . My usual turn around time is 2 weeks !
Ive had my 2013 SD4 since 2017 with 45k miles. I've been lucky. I'm reaching 95 going on to 100k miles. Its sublime, I've only had minor service jobs. The biggest problem is the door locking mechanism failing. It doesn't effect how it drives, I'm getting it fixed by my local Land Rover specialist John Kemp near Wymondham. If you want an Evoque, get a first gen.
This is also my experience of pretty much all the many and varied cars I’ve driven over the past 40 years since passing my test , I still do around 24,000 a year and had no major failures except in a 1984 Astra 😂it’s about how you drive with sensitivity where needed and regular servicing has been my experience
Just got rid of my 69 plate evoque had it from brand new 100 miles on the clock. Serviced it regularly, we did have a issue with the DPF which happened just out of the warranty period but thankfully Land Rover Huddersfield sorted on a good will gesture. Other then that it’s been a good lil car, we put 30,000 on it in the end. It’s gone now onto the next
Owned this into the 3rd year. I have the P250 HSE spec with digi dash, headsup display, pivi pro, keyless entry = absolutely none of the issue thats mentioned.
I have 2020 Evoque petrol and haven’t had a problem. It’s brilliant. I had a Discovery Sport before that and it had no problems either. I have no complaints about Land Rover and im having a hard time believing that they’re as unreliable as you claim.
I had one a Land Rover Sport - and it was horrible!! Constantly had issues with it. I love the look of Range Rover but I am scared of their reliability. I'm glad you've had no complaints but that is not everyone's experience. It's bigger than a claim it's a reality.
I think he did say diesel ⛽️ engines 🤷🏻♂️
It seems like all the technology issues could be firmware based. The sad thing is, we are being bombarded with technology in this day and age that is so unreliable and causes more frustration than its worth bothering with. This is probably why pre 1995 vehicles are increasing in value because people are reverting back to the older vehicles because the technology of these years is proven and tested.Yet the Japanese seem to get it right more often than not so why that, this needs to be asked.
the Japanese cars are based on the tech that is previously released in europe but they take more time to work it through and bring it to market later and make it more reliable
I bought a 6 month old Evoque (Diesel) in Feb 2020 (just before Covid struck) and over the next two years did 22,000 miles trouble free in it. Brilliant car but was a bit too small for us so I part-exchanged it for a Jaguar F-pace in May 2022 and the trade in allowance was only 2,000 pounds less than I paid for the car from the same JLR dealership. My youngest daughter has recently (mid Sept 2023) taken delivery of a new Evoque Hybrid and it's spent six week in the garage awaiting a replacement battery.
I think it's a miracle that you managed to fit all the problems associated with these unreliable money pits in just 12 mins!
Is this based on your personal experience of ownership?
Got a 69 plate only done 17000 never had a problem
You have to sit and test drive one to appreciate why they are so appealing. I've been lucky with a Disco Sport and I've become an LR fan. I can't stomach buying another with the fear of issues and stupid insurance costs now.
Precisely how we felt. They are great cars to travel in but that unreliability is a tough pill to swallow! Thanks for commenting.
You forgot the road tax costs 😅
Buy a Honda CRV. Never any issues, i have had three of them. Bought a Disco Sport from Carbase, sold it with a clogged DPF which had to be replaced using my expensive RAC warranty with a small contribution from Carbase. Looking for a new Honda CRV now.
Yep I agree. This reviewer has a CRV incidentally.
Good cars but zero sex appeal. I'm only 69!
@@danielrelton4164 sex doesn't last forever, unlike a CRV!
Got a first edition evoque with the old engine been bulletproof so far
You’re lucky… mine blew its Turbo just out of warranty. £3500 bill. Sensors for ABS broke. Lovely ride but I sold early and will never by another JLR product
Purchased a 2013 this year. No problems at all 68k miles, 2 door, lovely car
You have hit on a good one, my brother had one, he has 70, yes seventy, invoices from the dealership for various repairs.
Just subscribed . Glad I bought my 71 BMW 2.0d X1. Never ever thought about buying a Range Rover. Neighbour has a brand new latest model RR hybrid and its already been in the garage with gearbox out.
I accidentally bought a reliable discovery 5 HSE lux TD6 2018 with 50000 miles and 6 owners. Had parking sensor issue when I collected and an issue with rear window regulator. Both replaced under warranty. Honestly Since then it’s been great. 1 year 12000 miles later and it never misses a beat. I bought knowing that it could have issues and be unreliable but I needed the size 1080litres of boot with 5 seats in place. I think main issue is it’s 1/3 cars has an issue whereas with my Porsche before it was more like 1/30. My experience with cars is as long as they are used regularly and given a run every now and then. You look online and cars do 250000miles. Time will tell but planning to keep for a 2nd year which is rare for me. Honesty I would buy a Range Rover with miles and look for one which the owner had been the same for 2-3 years before. Likely issues would have been picked up and fixed
I’ve had my P300e for 12 months and it’s been faultless
Only heard a few minutes of this preview and I’ve heard enough to put me off. Thank you
I have friends who work for JLR, they said never buy a Range Rover or if you do get rid of it after two years as they start to fail and they cost a fortune to fix and the aftercare is a nightmare
I have friends that work with you and they say you haven't a clue what you are on about.
@@Mk1Male I'm just going on what they've said to me, they have worked there for years
I have 2012 evoque with 2.0 petrol engine until now, the car has only no problem since new ! Only regular maintenance like Oil change, brakepads and coolant reservoir just now because the plastic brittle a little bit
@leemc4093. My Evoque has just broken down & the garage said exactly the same thing to me there shit ! After 3 years old there not worth the trouble cost a fortune to fix & insurance is expensive - mines 5 years old and it’s going not reliable & I need a reliable car xxx
The early Ingenium engined diesels had bad oil dilution issues (about 2016-2019) needing oil changes every few thousand miles (LR paid for the extra oil changes for 5 years/50K miles to push the problem away from warranty claims!). But how much long term damage done with diluted oil not lubricating the engine properly.
Interesting and informative video. To add balance I had a first generation Evoque and since 2019 bought a second generation. Both D180 and both cars have proved extremely reliable. Now at 35k and only issue has been front door rubbing which is a known problem. I don’t do short journeys so maybe that helps but in all honesty I use a great dealership in Duckworths which ensures it gets its software updates and looks after customers.
“35k Km’s… no problems”… That’s something Land Rover owners attest too!!😂😂
35k lol
Well at least it comfortable to sit in while waiting for the recovery truck :o) as long as you don't want to listen to the radio that may or may not be working at the time.
About to get a 2024 evoque dynamic SE diesel 200 bhp next week, in cornithian bronze. Wish me good luck.
Great video.
As an owner of a number of JLR ‘cars’, even though I adore the aesthetics, they are the most unreliable cars I’ve ever encountered.
And on top of this, the company are unresponsive, conniving and dishonest.
Their dealers will lie and try to con you out of £thousands.
I scrapped an almost 6 year old XF because, after £10k+ of warranty repairs, the DPF inherent fault kicked in and destroyed the engine.
Full Jaguar service history, I might add.
Jaguar took no liability and wanted over £12k to fix it. New engine and both turbo’s. (could have been a lot more but I just walked out when the manager got to £12k)
Their cars don’t have little niggles like some makes, JLR cars have life changing faults that, unless you’re Elon Musk, will ruin your bank accounts.
Admire them but for your sanity’s sake, do not buy one.
You might get lucky but the odds are that your experience of the car and of JLR will be repeated. They have not changed since the early 1980’s. I think the unreliability and particularly the attitude to customer service and their customers is handed down from generation to generation. After three Range Rovers, a Discovery and four Land Rovers, I finally saw the light and could sleep at night with a relatively safe bank account. At one point I ran a OneTen, Discovery and a Range Rover at the same time and I spent a disproportional amount of time just keeping these roadworthy. I changed two of them and a Mitsubishi Shogun for three Nissan Terrano one day and had three glorious trouble free years.
@@hedydd2 One at a time was bad enough with nightmares, but three of them would give me a breakdown. 😱
We did have two together but only for a very short time, an S-Type and a Discovery. We sold the Discovery pretty quick after buying the Jaguar.
I would only have one at a time. 😬
The absolute only one of either marque that I’d buy now is an old 90/110 as, as you know, they’re bolt on/bolt off.
I’d love a Series lll as a project because that’s a trip down memory lane of happy days but unlikely now.
Very true the problems iv had with Land Rover main dealers I had a simple problem sometimes it wouldn’t start might be 30sec or minutes. Are it’s the battery no it’s not I said anyway fitted then it was injectors then pump etc etc. I said to them are you trying to build me a new car out of all the parts you’re putting on and the problem is still there. Refused to pay in the end. They cancelled two grand bill in the end. Never again😢
Beautiful Car. No other brand can come anyware close for the exclusive look and feel of an RR. Just needs sorting, and there will emerge plenty of specialist garages able to fix problems. Still gets my vote.
Yes reliability is well known to be dreadful, but people still buy them for the brand name, and when they work they are very good. JLR have no real incentive to improve if they still sell well.
I drove full size Range rovers for many years, they were not too bad, but plenty better cars now, so I have finished with JLR.
It is well known to be dreadful how? By someone that has never owned one recently posting a comment 'because they saw it once on the internet'? Or, by actual owners? Read a lot of the comments on here and yours seems out of date.
It never ceases to amaze me how many sites have RR owners making excuses, commonly "These are high tech cars and all such cars go wrong:, Much as I love the looks of RR cars - no guys, other high tech cars don't all go wrong. I have never had problems with Mercedes including S and SL class. If only RR would tackle this instead of relying on people buying for their prestige image.
Great video! Very informative.
Thank you!
I had 2019 Range Rover HSE , first month I got engine light 3 times, dealer try fix , finally after 3rd times, they fix, after that 3 years transmission broke need replace, 3 years I only drove 16000 miles, after that engine light came back...... I love Range Rover look and feel, but too much issue, Friends told me once warranty expired sale right away, because will cause so much money to fix. I sold my Range Rover after 4 years, now I drove Lexus, no issue at all🥰
We've had two Evoques and both suffered from DPF issues which put the car into limp mode. Both times Land rover didn't want to know and basically said it's down to your driving style, you need to be doing high speed long journeys regularly to clear the filter. Funny how neither dealer mentioned it at the point they sold them to us , and we found out that it's a common criticism of Land rover dealers and the company itself they don't want to let the public know how unreliable and poorly designed these expensive piles of crap actually are . AVOID AT ALL COSTS!
Its true of many cars - I did a fair chunk of motorway miles in my previous car (a Ford) and it used the regeneration - but the DPF still ended up getting so clogged up to the point to needing to replaced twice in the 10yrs I owned it (not from new). It is a little bit down to you to know that - as all diesel cars clog up eventually as its a dirty fuel . From what Ive seen Landrovers are well engineered and your comment is a bit unfair - I certainly would have had one over my previous car any day
I would AVOID YOUR POST AT ALL COSTS. Every single diesel vehicle that has a DPF needs to take regular runs above a certain speed so the DPF regeneration can do it's job. This is not high speed long journeys as you claim, but just following the manufacturer's guidelines.
How on earth can you have had TWO Evoques and not known this? Are you really saying you bought a second after having issues with the first. BS.
I had a Honda CRV diesel which had 113,000 miles on it when I sold it and never had an issue with it and I didn't do a lot of long journeys. I am now on a Tiguan diesel auto and it has just reached 25,000 miles with no problems.
Pity about the Evoques giving LR a bad name, which were the replacement for the LR Freelander 2 which still today is a very reliable 2nd hand SUV with a great reliable 2.2 diesel engine,I have had mine 11 years now, 80'000 miles only had new brakes, tyres, annual services, one oil cooler rubber pipe, timing belt kit in 11 years and just as reliable as my previous 2010 SUV Toyota RAV 4.
But my Freelander 2 LS has a better sound system with factory fitted subwoofer, plush leather seating, nicer interior and far better off road capabilities and the paintwork is fab not one blemish chip or corrosion on a 2013 plate it can go to my grave with me modern diesels engines are adblue chocked up DPF crap.
LR Freelander 2 - 2,2 Diesel has nil problem with short journeys, once a month kick its ass along the motorway 5th gear at 70mph for 10 ish miles job done.
Zero sympathy for you. In a world where we have all this info at the touch of a finger, people still choose these cars then whinge about reliability.
One of the worlds best looking vehicles, but probably the least reliable. A real columdrum.
Theres no probably about it, it is the most unreliable vehicle in the world
Over the last 15years I’ve had 5 landrover’s, averaging 35000mls a years. Got to say never had any problems with any of them. Luck of the draw I guess!
most people that have big problems are second or third owners who buy a high mileage cheap Land Rover and try to run it on a shoe string. these cars are expensive when new and they should be serviced properly.
We had 2 Discoveries, the second one was to replace the really bad first one but changed under warranty. They are beautifully designed, but badly built with very poor customer service. I've just ordered my 7th New BMW, I'm replacing an x5 with 140,000 on the clock and all I have changed is the oil, tyres and brake. I've ordered an x7, I wish I had the time to own a Range Rover, but can't face visiting the dealer every other week with faults
There comes a point when technology in cars reach a point where more is less , I think that point has been reached
Buy a Lexus. Service it, put petrol in it, job done
That's also my experience with Honda and Mazda.
And Peugeot. Can’t believe what I’m hearing here from the Sales Prevention Officer.
@@GayorgVonTrappPeugeot and Citroen are now part of Stellantis, so you can kiss any reminiscence of reliability goodbye!!
Yeah Honda CRV bomb proof, Toyota RAV 4 likewise…. Nuff said!!!
Eeeew Lexus poor
Fantastic idea to have the current owners on the test drive 👋
I think so! They often have insight that a half hour test drive cant provide.
I’ll stick with my 1997 Toyota RAV4 which I’ve owned since 2001.
No new anything or EV for me, I'm sticking with my13 year old diesel Qashqai love it, they say there unreliable mine is not.
Thank you for a clear review. I was looking to buy one for my wife...look like you saved me some pain and money..👍🏿
I had a Jaguar F-Type (same company) with those exact electrical issues. Turns out, along the passenger side frame kind of under the edge of the seat/where you step over to get in and out, there was a short in the wires. There was a support or bracket of some sort near the harness/conduit that managed to wear a hole in the harness and one of the wires in the harness. Randomly the bracket would touch the cut wire’s bare metal and short the system. Going down the road and it would suddenly have these exact problems with the screen and sound. Other lights would flicker.
As a previous owner of the Evoque they are a nightmare car to own and their service department will make you want to cry. Don’t buy a Land Rover . You have been warned.
If you can’t afford a new one you definitely can’t afford a second hand one
Insurance jumped this year from £500 to £850 for my Disco.
@@peenergysolutionslimited8903it's not insurance. It's when it breaks down... because it will
Anything JLR… steer clear all show no go, much like their owners…. Plastic everywhere, looks good but not worth a f@&k
Buy a Honda, Toyota, or Lexus or indeed Subaru… find a good independent old school expert mechanic, service your purchase and live in reliability heaven…. Honest I’ve had 5 Hondas….
Their like 50-60 k new, by the time it's 40,000 miles it will go for about 19 lol
My experience with Landrover : 1) LR Freelander2 : 255000 km best car ever! 2) RR Sport : 185000 km Top car!
I chopped my Evoque in after 2 years. I had only had the car for six months and it had £5k of warranty work done on front suspension and alternator. Insurance costs high, running costs high, reliability low. Buy the extended warranty as there are no cheap repairs on one of these things. My mark 1 was far superior, 89000 miles of trouble free motoring. Now got a Toyota as I wanted a brand with better reliability.
I love the convertible model of these. I used to own a Land Rover Freelander they had a lot of problems too, at 50,000 miles head gasket was going out. I think it the same with most luxury cars the more bells and whistles the more things to go wrong.
This was a really good video, hopefully things have improved, as a MK 1 owner it was on my go to list
Had a 69 petrol one on lease, lovely car but dealers were crap. It started sounding like a bag of spanners after about a year. Went to the dealers x 2 and they wanted £180 to check it out despite it obviously being a warranty issue. Luckily when it went in for service I met a Sevice Guy with a bit of sense. He said it was probably anti roll bar bushes. they actually kept stock as it was quite a common problem. Sure enough he was right and they were changed under warranty. Lovely car let down by bad (except for one guy who knew what he was talking about) backup, Wouldn't buy one that's why I leased.
The 2.0 diesels have a balancer shaft issue where they need replacing. I’ve seen a TSB where if they need replacing then they get the original part numbers fitted and if they fail again they fit the revised parts. Not great. When I had mine it went in for the balancer shaft replacement but when the techie started the work he discovered that it was the turbo at fault and not the balancer shafts. All fixed under warranty
We had the same problem, plus diesel seeping into the oil sump.
great video and can wait until a owner gets in touch with a Vauxhall grandland 1.2 petrol with the wet belt issue
That’s every psa 1.2 turbo engine in many cars that are failing all over the world
69 plate D180 with 31k miles FSH in the garage for a new turbo, old turbo actuator completely dead. Water ingress on the L/H tail late has all but killed the left indicator. Had 3 years of faultless driving until the past couple months.
It such a shame as they are so beautifully styled inside and out. Hugely desirable if was sorted. Way out my price range, I’ll stick with 12yr old crv
Absolutely crackin car the CR-V. My dad still has his 2008 model and it has almost everything my brand new cupra has and still looks amazing. Reliable, well made (to last) car
A friend of mine is a main agent mechanic
They normally put 4 2.0 ingunim engines in a week there even putting in the 3.0 td6
When I was there a new defender 3.0 came in with a sized engine
That’s because it’s basically the same engine. The block is manufactured from a three cylinder right up to the six cylinder straight. Petrol or diesel it’s all the same platform. Personally, I don’t find the 2 L that bad just a timing chain is crap on the early engines and using 0W 30, combined with DPF is useless after it’s run in just switch over to 5W 30
'SOLD like wild fire' they ignite like wild fire too!
Interesting video , I'd love one of these as the design is very nice.
But , I know lr products can be iffy.
So , I bought a Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross 2019 auto 4wd.
Wow , what a car - looks similar to the Evoque but no problems so far at 28k miles.
1.5 petrol turbo, 160 bhp.
And Japanese reliability.👍
It doesn't look similar even a bit to Evoque unfortunately :-)
@@piotrwalewski9586lol ...harsh but true
I owned a 2016 HSE Dynamix Lux model from 16k miles, within 6k of driving/owning I had issues with the windscreen leaking on the driver side, so had to do a complete removal and reseal, had numerous issues with the DPF and parasite drain that a couple of garages could not fix. The seal on the reverse camera went so had to replace that. Only after experiencing these issues did I find out they are common issues with the car. So it had to go and never again will I own another Range Rover
My boss had a Range Rover Autobiography in the first nine months of ownership it went to the dealers eight times for a total of four and a half months without his car, he subsequently sold the car and bought a Lexus.
I have a lot of JLR products, without having alot of problems. I had more problems with german makes, and the thing about the LR products is that they are really useable for towing and going offroad or on snowy paths, wich most of the cars in the Evoque class isnt.
Have these improved any now by 2022-23-24? Is the Sport having the same issues? Tyres are 19" yes? Can you put the 22" Sport tyres on the Evoque? (Sport is actually 23" for 2024)
How come all new cars in GB get 45-65MPG but in the States it only gets 19mpg City / 21mpg HWY vs UK MPG? Saw this with the Benz's too. Different emissions? Or cylinders/HP? Spec-wise they appear the same for 2023-2024 models. Just don't understand why most cars in the UK get double the gas mileage? Also if you look on several car sites asking which is the most reliable year... ironically thru 2020 they list the 2017 and 2019 as "most reliable"? I don't get how after 13 years outside of the old Discoveries made for the Sahara that Rover can't get their act together? It's also cheaper to buy in the US for some reason. Unsure why unless it's VAT vs ,US sales 6% vs VAT 20% tax? BTW; saw another reviewer say comparing a 2022 Evpoque vs a version 2 "Sport" (£112k!!) said "taxes" per year were about £100 quid less for this model. Was he talking about tax disc? Or what other tax is annual? Why do they demand more taxes after sales or VAT tax?
Spent 9 yrs in London and everything has an extra price attached to it. Can only imagine now with interest rates and inflation skyrocketing why a decently equipped Sport is $135K (USD) here (2023) and the Evoque is around $68k equally equipped. Thoughts?
Thank you…..I’ve been thinking of getting a 2nd hand Evoque, but not any more.
Not exactly tly a rational response....
I’ve had 4 and not had even a single issue. Probably break down next time I’m out.🤣
That’s great to hear! What year and model if you don’t mind sharing for anyone looking to buy?
@@ScottishCarClan First one was a 2014 with 11,000 on when I bought it and 38,000 when I sold. Second was a 2016 with about 15,000 on when bought and about 42,000 when I sold. 3rd was a 2017 with about 18,000 on when I bought and about 46,000 when sold and the latest is a 2020 se with 23,000 on when bought and now has 26,000. All were diesels. However, I don’t do short runs. Most were over 30 miles and the shortest would be 16 miles of motorway to work and back again. Maybe they don’t like short stop start traffic on the dpf. Got to add, oil was changed every 6000 miles with correct oil with the LR code. Wrong oil eats the timing chains I was told.
If you’ve had 4 I suspect your luck is because you change it every few years before the warranty runs out 😉
Wife has a D150 only problem in 40k has been door handle not retracting back. Fixed under warranty. Probably a ticking time bomb but you can't sell them now anyway as the market has collapsed.
Brilliant info 👍
I transported the series 2 to Spain for advertising film/still work, took 4 there 3 broke down due to DPF issues, the 3 replacements broke down due to DPF issues, wouldn't have a RR if they were giving them away.
I'm glad I saw videos like this and forums - I was considering a P300e. Not anymore.... The hybrid setup is purely to meet EU regulations and all it's done is add needless complexity. In turn, you have to ask if it's even greener if a car is getting an endless supply of replacement parts.
Great video. I’m one of the lucky ones. I’ve had my 20Y D150 for 3 years 17000 miles without any mechanical issues. The infotainment system can be sometimes a problem.
As someone used to Japanese cars for twenty years, I am pleased that I have not bought any LR products (had a Jag which was pants) and sorry at their lack of reliability as I would love one.
The DPF issue is due to the architecture of where the DPF sits in the Evoque. I have read a specialist engineers article about why the DPF does not function correctly as it is not in the optimum place to operate. Therefore some owners who even do long journeys suffer DPF issues, where JLR keep copping out stating driver error e.g. only doing short journey's. In 2017 the updated software to all diesel vehicle from 2015 ingenium engines to set of 'service required' light when oil dilution was above about 4/5% (can't remember actual figure) if you dip checked oil & found it to be above correct level then you have oil dilution & needs to be changed. The incontrol app is helpful to see soot levels & ad blue levels in advance.
Bought a RRE 2020 from Arnold Clark 8 weeks ago and been in the garage for 7 weeks with a constant engine light on that no garage can seem to find what the problem is, lovely looking car but now dollying with the idea of returning it 🤔
was thinking of putting my 2018 Skoda Karoq in ptx for a 68 plate Evoque autobiography - just fancied more luxury but am scared by the bill risk...even with FSH...
All of our cars are top quality. Our showroom was extremely busy this month and its getting busier.
Last year bought a preowned Jag XF from a JLR Dealer in Milton Keynes. I think it has now been back seven times since then trying to permanently fix an Engine Warning Light problem. Now they want me to pay £1600 to try and fix it again!
This is why you need to pay someone to extensively check the vehicle you want to buy before you drive it off the dealership
Hi. Great movie and cheers for honest review on this car. I personally don’t quite get this car, due to its unreliability, but I suppose it’s pretty much horses for courses.
My 69 plate only issue was the adblue tank malfunction. After a few called out, LR changed the tank, problem went away. No other issue.
thanks for a great review ...im looking to buy ....but latest news is Landrover dealers are stacking cars .for repair ... because spares are not available!?! ....due to a new central warehouse distribution system . ..er not working!?! .... a great shame ..
Great review 👍 Think I’ll stick to m’old Freelander 2 😁
Probably for the best !
Best LR product they made in age's the FL2 due to the amount of Ford Input and engineering.
Me too !!
Don't blame you
Great car and the 2.2 diesel engine much more reliable than the Ingenium 2.0 diesel and less expensive electronics to go wrong; definitely keep the Freelander!
It's sad to see what some people been through with their Land Rovers. I must be lucky because I've been driving my Discovery Sport for 8 years and the only thing I've had to replace is the battery. My wife drives a plugin hybriid Evoque and so far her main complaint is with the frequent over-the-air software updates that keep returning all her personal settings back to to default....... when I hear a scream I know LR has just 'updated' her car 🤣🤣
On 2nd evoque, I would only buy the 2.0d. Never had any of the problems outlined. As a mechanic however I would not advise buying the diesel for short journeys its just not meant to be. Also re the ad blu I or we have never had a problem with Ad blu. But you can only tell it as it is. Final thing, like all L/R vehicles they need servicing and lots of care they are not designed for the daily school run thats for sure. Lol
We're considering a new P300e on the employer salary sacrifice scheme.. im not convinced but the missus loves the Evoque. Theyre not cheap and not generous with their equipment unless you go up in the range and cost!
Well I seriously hope I dont run into that main issue at the lights , I am in the process of changing from a very very troublesome I-Pace to a 2020 first edition petrol evoque. My I-Pace has been in the service department at JLR now for the past 3 and a half months .. they are at this point unable to fix it , but have said its going to be a 20hr labour charge when they are able to change the main body harness ... so I am taking the hit financially and changing cars. I just hope I dont jump from the frying pan into the fire.
My issue with the I-Pace , bank of errors suddenly on start up that now wont go away consisting of , reduced power mode , forward alert disabled , AEB braking disabled , high voltage battery alert , drive train alerts etc etc. Cant put the car in park , reports speed to high for park when stationary .. flashes the park light constantly so wont go to sleep and slowly drains the battery because of this.
Cant engage the parking brake but when the cars off , it will randomly engage it with no visual que .. so when you go to drive off , it tries to move but the brake is stuck on .. cant use the electronic park to then disengage the brake .. but just sitting there it will randomly disengage the parking brake.
They thought it was software updates at first , then a wheel speed sensor , then the wheel speed sensor wiring loom that goes to all 4 wheels , then the service department had to confer with JLR techs at the factory who gave them a list of things to try and now after all that they say its the main body harness which will take 10 weeks to order and 20 hours labour to fit requiring the whole drivetrain to be removed and refitted.
All this on a car that is JUST out of warranty and only has 10300 miles on the clock .. I have had a shocking experience with it ... I would just walk away from the brand but I cant wait for the car to be fixed and the only way I can get rid of it and only lose a few grand , is to part ex it with them so I am moving back to petrol and trying an Evoque .. so as I said , I really hope this unable to pull off issue isnt my next major problem.
Great overview. Now I'm back to square one. Jaguars?
Thanks for review very informative
I was going to buy one but ive been put off by the fact JLR have been brought out by Tata(indian company) and the cars are plagued with problems.
Diesel engines have had those issues for years, DPF, EGR etc. This is nothing new. People should know diesels are not good for short journeys by now.
Toyota RAV4 is the boy, absolutely fabulous reliable SUV.
We have a 2017 series 1 from new that this last year has been a nightmare. Water leak from the AC system that took 4 visits by various garages to resolve. New Injectors and now a new DPF. Without doubt the short journeys I think are the problem. For all that it’s comfortable and my missus loves it. 12:07
I’ve had two Jaguar XE’s with the same Diesel Ingenium and all on Ad Blue. At 2 years old one had done 58k. The second ( best car I’ve ever had) 70k at 3 years. Between the Jags I had a Disco Sport that did 50k in 2 years and now a Velar which is not 18 months old yet but has done 35k. With all my cars I use for work I’m convinced due to the mileage, they have been faultless. Just need to use them - a lot.
Land Rover has shockingly poor reliability issues across the range, your one of the lucky ones if you have no issues.
Sounds just like my Grand Scenic!!!!
I got a 2015 evoque which has only got 46000 and no problem at all apart from a off side coil spring which broke
Great video...and i think I'll stick with my CR-V!!!
Any updates fixed any of these issues since then? Wife’s looking at a 2021 plate.
Well I was about to go to local LR dealer to see some second hand Evoque ! Not now
I always get my cars remaped..makes a hudge difference in my experience
I have five JLR products in succession over a 10 year period. I ended up rejecting the last two and they will never see another penny from me.
Sorry to hear this, what issues did you face?
@@ScottishCarClan it was when the F-pace was launched in 2016. My first was rejected at 6 months old due to many electrical gremlins and the replacement reject at 3 months due to a noise coming from the drivetrain that couldn’t be identified. Shoddy engineering.
I have an 2018 Evoque, no problems here, it has been very reliable. Oil change every 6 months, use premium diesel every other tank and give it a run down motorway every other week. Lot of cat for the money.
Owned jaguar F pace 2019 for six months same parts basically. The steering rack failed driving in heavy rain 48k on car had to reject the car as parts are not avialable back order approx waiting time 2 months. My experience jlr they do not acknowledge there is a problem even though read forums many owners have experienced the same problem. My advice stay away from JLR ive gone to a Toyota rav4 different class in reliability and customer care.
I have a 2019 diesel evoque in Scotland where it’s never hot! Nil problems (so far!😜)
Bought my wife a new evoque first edition in 2019 only done 12k todatej ust had a load of issues been in this week for new water bottle that was leaking, service manager said it was my fault for only topping up with water not adding screenwash ? Wanted to charge £310 to fix , gearbox is awful can't make up it's mind what gear to go in, ride quality terrible feel every bump, had new head display unit, as mentioned it stopped working no media sat nav parking Bluetooth radio.
Can honestly say it's the worst car we've ever owned.