Great review, thanks a lot. One thing I'd like to add or correct is that the paddles are not necessarily meant to make it sporty but to manually downshift when driving down a hill to use engine brakes. Back in the days we had a lever saying P R N D 3 2 1 and we'd just shift down a gear driving down a mountain. Now we do it with the paddles. I suppose it's only relevant if you live in a hilly area / mountain area. I live near the Alps, therefore I need frequently.
This is a really a good ownership review. There are a few youtubers who just give 6 months ownership review of a car just to highlight the comfort and technology. Ownership review video should also include maintanence, quality and any parts replacement for car. Really good honest car review and a good reference video for anyone who is planning to buy a used Evoque.
Great informative review. I have an old 2008 LR Freelander 2 with 120000 miles and wouldn’t part with it - get 40mpg on a long run, still comfortable, everything still works, I can service most things myself and the FWD is really effective when called on. If you look after most LR’s they are pretty reliable. Thanks again for a reasonably positive LR review 😁
I've a close friend with a 2010 Freelander HSE. It's lovely. Hoping to do a swap with him one day soon so I can bring it to the channel. I think a lot of people run LRs on a tiny budget, then they wonder why they don't work??!!
@@edfrench4053 I’m thinking of trading my 2013 freelander2 for an Evoque. I remember when I bought the freelander I thought it would be my last car and it still may be given how little I drive these days..
I would keep the freelander if it is good, my 2016 evouque only gets 30 mpg on average. too many silly warning signs coming on and off and niggly things like bonnet open when it's been closed so you have to open and shut it again, manual gearshift inactive when it's a auto ! !....but it' is a lovely drive though😊
@Alidumanify how many km/ miles? The dpf is a problem if you drive short distances. It gets clogged up but that's with many new diesels, also in my Volkswagen. I drove around 15'000km with check engine on because there was something with the exhaust system to get fixed.(after 170'000km.) but now everything is good and it's at 198'000km
@Alidumanify if those 10-15 miles are one drive, you don't have to worry. 15 miles should be enough to get an engine warm and I know that from my diesels. However I guess it's through the whole day, so there is nothing much you can do, besides using higher quality fuel, or more useful, get it on the highway for at least once a week. If you drive at higher speeds than lets say 70mph, engine oil can get up over 100 degree celsius so all the water and fuel vaporizes from the oil, and also exhaust temperatures get higher, so that soot is blown out when you press the gas pedal. - Get in on the highway at least 1x a week, and when you do so, don't be afraid to push it to 3000rpm for once - be careful with cold starts, usually don't rev over 2000 Even if the dpf makes problems, there are different ways to fix it than replacing it, like for ex, cleaning it
@Alidumanify you'll notice that the dpf is regenerating when suddenly the consumption starts to rise. Just keep driving normal, don't push it too hard while it's regenerating. If you out of warranty and free service, don't hesitate to change oil already at 20-25'000km. Don't wait for 30k+, it's just to much - or 18 months, whichever comes first.
Great review. I still have my original top of the range 2012 Evoque SD4 Dynamic i ordered from new. Done 144000kms and I still love this car. Service it once a year....all electrics and everything still works since new , and for the most part, i consider it reliable, but the only things that have required change over 9 years is 2 x starter motors, and a new valve body for the six speed auto transmission. The valve body was because it started flaring a bit in 3rd & 4th gear shifts. I think the original design looks better then the new one. While the new one looks like it has had botox...slightly less character overall in my opinion.
Great stuff, sounds like you've got a good one 👍 The original design is so much nicer, I agree. Even prefer the original DRLs to the updated ones which just went the same way as the rest of the range.
@@midlifemotors5050 Nailed it too about the original DRL's...totally agree. Just on a side note, the 2.2L diesel engine i have in the Evoque, was actually derived from the PSA Group (Peugeot/Citroen), and is known as the PSA DW12. Another bit of interesting info, is the 6-speed Auto in mine is an Aisin (Japanese), and the starter motors are Denso (Also Japanese). So i was a bit surprised these failed me, as "Made in Japan" is largely synonymous with outright reliability. I guess just wear & tear really. But yep, your right, besides these things, its been a real Gem to own in every way over all these years. I find the 6 speed auto works well with the high torque delivered by the diesel...its a sort of relaxing drive because of the torque, and thus without the hunting of gears. Mine is Indus Silver with a black roof, and 20'' shadow Chrome wheels of the same design as yours. This thing still turns heads everywhere i go, even after all these years, which again, is testament to its bold, unique and radical design masterpiece that it is. Keep up the great work. Cheers
My daughter just bought 10 yr old dynamique lux 2.2. Immaculate 82k what a beautiful machine. Pure luxury and I am a convert would like a petrol myself
I bought a 2012 dynamic model six months old and had it for almost four years and was quite happy with it, no problems until my second MOT pointed out an oil leak from the crank front oil seal, repair estimate about £900 so I traded it for a BMW. Now on the look out for an almost new car and considering the Evoque once again.
Seen your comments and after taking that into consideration I absolutely agree with you. Feels relaxed, honest, factual and informative. Presenter needs to be encouraged to keep doing what he’s doing. I hope he gets sponsorship and the freedom to unconditionally say it as it is.
I believe there is now a LRJ recall to replace these bolts. They are recalling from early 2017 to start with and then working their way to the older models. If they fail before the recall then they will repair it free of charge as it is a known issue. You do have to wait for the recall letter as they won't allow you to just book it in for the replacement bolts. Hope this helps.
@@123italiano321 Generally speaking, if you check the official government website for MOT records it will say if there are any outstanding recalls. Failing that just get the registration number and call JLR and ask them, ideally they need the VIN number but should be able to find it from the reg. plate.
Literally just bought a 2013 evoque with the upgraded sound system, with 4K miles on it. It literally sat in a garage the whole time. Thing is nice man
Nice if you can get them with really low miles that haven't been used at all, but be very wary of any used diesel with generally low mileage. It most likely means it has only been used for local trips so will be coked up. I made the mistake with my current car, 20k lower miles than average but for exactly that reason, the owner had only done 4k miles a year and probably only used it to go to the local shops. It took me 2 years to get it running right, had to swap out both turbos in the end, had the DPF cleaned 3 times, EGR valves, you name it. With diesel I'd go the other way and look for a higher mileage one that's only been up and down the motorway every day.
Try driving it down a mountain in Slovenia! Then being able to select and hold a gear is indispensable! We absolutely love ours! Been right across Europe 6 or 7 times! We get 48 mpg out of ours 2017! Currently living in Belarus so in winters are long and snow 5 months a year! 4WD essential!
Glad it helped 👍The Evoque is a great piece of kit but the steering rack issue is real. Our DiscoSport recently failed. Fixed FOC by JLR but what a pain, grrrr!! If you can get 2018 or newer, issue gone, or a car that has been fixed previously.
I must add that in a few cases when the motor has fallen off from the bolts breaking, sometimes debris gets stuck in the pinion gears of the rack and jam up the steering making it impossible to steer. J
Also, steering rack bolts can be replaced preventatively for about 1 hour of labor + parts by a competent mechanic. Not a problem for a California car like mine, but if you're worried call around, it can be done without removing the subframe, unless they've snapped. Cheers
Many thanks 👍 Ended up changing the switch for the roof blind in the end. Fortunately a cheap and easy fix. Survived the steering rack issues in the end, does seem to be very hit and miss. Car now sold, the money offered for used cars here in Scotland is bonkers at present. Honestly, do miss the car but just couldn't turn the offer down.
Thanks for sharing..I didn't know about the Steering rack issues. I read about some minor problems on internet like: door locks failure or navigation or windshield wipers or tire pressure monitor. I bought used Evoque 2013 sd4, 2years ago & haven't given me any problems so far...now I'm worried about my steering rack because it will be catastrophic if it fails when I'm on highway. I'm not a mechanic, but i guess that a car made with off-road capabilities should have robust undercarriage than that of electric scooter. I also Subscribed to your wonderful channel today and keep those videos coming.🤣🤣👍🏾
Thanks for your support, much appreciated 👍 Mine is fine, so you could well be worrying over nothing, like me🤣 . The earlier cars do seem better for some reason??!! Our 2016 Disco Sport (latest video) on the other hand has had all the issues you mention...go figure?? JLR quality control at its best!!
@@midlifemotors5050 Thank you very much for your reply, you're right...I could be worrying over nothing, instead of enjoying my wonderful car. Nevertheless, when I go for my next Oil change service will also asked the mechanic to check if my steering rack is still ok. Thanks.🤣🤣🤣👍🏾🙏🏾
@@bigdudetv7115 FYI - There is now a LRJ recall to replace these bolts. They are recalling from early 2017 to start with and then working their way to the older models. If they fail before the recall then they will repair it free of charge as it is a known issue. You do have to wait for the recall letter as they won't allow you to just book it in for the replacement bolts. Hope this helps.
good review I have a 2015 2.2sd4 pure 6 speed manual I have to agree with all he says the only problem I hit I bought mine with 10,000 on the clock and I tow a caravan with it and it pulls a 7metre caravan great with no problems approx 28 to 30 ,000 the clutch went took it to a local garage and it cost £900 that including labour they did mention they had to change some bolts as they had some problems with them so I take it there the ones mentioned, but I like it comfortable to drive and does what I need it for.
I’ve got a 66 plate, had it 1 year with 35000 on the clock, had issues with the engine management light since June, drove OK but got it in at the first opportunity, fault was diagnosed as a Nox2 sensor which was replaced under a third party warranty, picked it up 3 weeks later and took it for a 30 mile drive, no problems at all. Turned the engine off and when I went to use it the next day, engine management light back on again!! Booked it in again and fault diagnosed as faulty EGR valve and cooler, still in the garage being replaced under warranty again, it’s affected how I feel about driving a Land Rover without a warranty as I’d be around £1300 out of pocket for the two fixes for a car I’ve owned for a year, my plan is to get the car back (eventually) leave it a month or so and then trade it in for either a BMW X3, a Volvo XC60 or an Audi Q5
Not good fella, I feel your pain. Do still seem to hear of Evoques either working perfectly for years or causing bother for years. Very hit and miss these cars??!! Come on JLR, QA do some better QA. How hard can it be?? My Dad drives an XC40, beautiful car. Quieter than the Evoque, better ride, lovely place to be and I like that the pan roof opens too. Not quite as much ooomph and IMO the Evoque looks better, but that's a personal thing. Hope you get sorted soon 🤞
@@midlifemotors5050 well I collected it today after having the EGR valve & EGR cooler replaced, valves reprogrammed?? And tested, had to pick it up after the service centre closed so got the keys from reception, turned the engine on and …………… EML light still illuminated! I really do give up with it 😠
@@paulefc1971 Man, that is terrible!! Must be at your wits end. I once had a Mitsubishi that just never really worked properly. Gave up with that in the end too. Sometimes you just have to move on otherwise I recon it'll drive you mad!! It's only a car at the end of the day.
@@midlifemotors5050 well, latest update (and hopefully the last), I dropped it off at the dealers yesterday, they bumped it up the queue- as they should, and started working on it again today, had a phone call around 1430 to say that it’s (again) ready for collection and it didn’t need any new parts this time, they reckon that when they replaced the EGR valve, they didn’t tighten a hose enough which was causing the EML to illuminate, so 🤞 that should be the issue resolved, although it’s been a really nice car to drive and it obviously looks good and it may run ok for years without issue now, I’m going to get my holidays out the way and look for a new car, my candidate at the minute will probably be a 2019/20 BMW X3 - thanks for your replies 👍
You made me laugh with the 'end on a bit of a low' but I owned a brand new LR about 15 years ago and I felt almost exactly like you do. The car had a great interior was comfortable and felt solid and ready to run forever BUT I was deathly afraid of the steering bolt problem and the brakes wore out too quickly! I will ONLY get another LR if I lease it with maintenance prepaid! Fun review!
Leasing does seem to be a sensible way of running a LR product without the worry these days. I'd probably do exactly the same thing now. Thanks for watching.
Dont worry about the steering Bolts? (If nuts and butts where a bucket of nuts ) no need what so ever to not consider this fantastic Car mine is the 2017 Evoke Auto biography (45000 miles) and is probably the best car I have ever owned I had 23 MX5s and another 250 cars in my history so I have put the years into evaluating cars be happy with this one!!!
The good first. I had a 2014. I've had 37 new vehicles in my life. From a Suzuki Samurai, to Corvette Grand Sport and just about everything in-between. I've had 2 LR Discoveries and then the Evoque. I now have a $68,000 Jeep Wrangler electric hybrid. I've had 6 Wranglers. All very reliable. Pickup trucks from Toyota to Ford to Chevy to Honda. OH, and even a Mazda B4000 which is basically a Ford Ranger. With all that said, I loved the drive and feel, and character of all 3 of my LR products more then anything else I ever had. What I didn't love is that all 3 were literally the most unreliable vehicles of everything I've had. The Evoque was the worst. The transmission needed 8 updates and it still was awful. Engine cooling light, plastic body trim pieces always needed to be snapped back into place. My wife and I rented a Hurtz rental car to take a 15 hour trip because I didn't trust that my Evoque would make it without trouble. My brothers Range Rover had a ton of problems. With that said, he just bought a new Discovery Sport. Why, because there is just something about LR products that touches on all 5 of ones senses, maybe even a sixth. He traded in his perfect Jeep Cherokee for it. My wife's Jeep Cherokee is also perfect at 45K miles. Here I am, looking at the new Defender. I get goosbumps when I watch reviews of it. I still love the idea of getting another Evoque perhaps. I just can't get LR out from under my skin. What to do. Hmmm, love these awful English box's.
Think you've hit the nail on the head right there tbh. How can JLR create such a strong brand, build cars we all want then go and let it all down with basic quality assurance issues. It's like they've done the hard bit then just loose focus. I mean in this day and age how hard can it be?? 100k in a Rav4, not a single issue and still going strong. And this is par for the course from a Toyota. Get it together JLR!!
@@midlifemotors5050 You're right. LR dropped the ball on the last minutes of the game, regarding quality and reliability. LR is such a premium brand that has certain class...and it's very disappointing to see owners( in their smart attires) stuck on the side of the road waiting for breakdowns rescue.🤣 🤣 🤣
So pleased i watched your video Im in the process of buying a 2016 30k miles evoque and asked at the dealer about the steering rack bolts and they have it booked to have them replaced before i pick it up 2 year warranty with land rover for under £800 too happy days Oh and they replaced the rattly heat sheild too same fault you had with your discovery sport
My one was a little bit unlucky , not the steering wheel, but the turbo failure , this K03 by Borgwarner is notoriously bad for the oil seal and it was lack of power n burning white gas out of the exhaust, and the oil leak of the turbo destroy the whole cat , luckily I works as a mechanic n getting aftermarket parts is dirt cheap for me, and it runs perfectly afterwards. I got more than ten customers drive with this model have very few problems, the most common one r the thermostat housing leaking water, ac pump failure, or rear parking sensor problems. Other than that just regular service, for the European car stand point , this baby is relatively reliable if compare to bmw , VW n Audi s SUVs.
100%. 1 of the bolts is a bit hidden by the sub-frame and you have to be careful not to snap them taking them out (bye bye fix on failure if you do that) but get it done and you're breathing a BIG sigh of relief!!
I'm a now a Range rover evoque sd4 2014 owner. I just recently bought the car & now. I've driven the car & and found massive problems with steering- knocking , clunking, advised, and a recall on this car. It's going into Land Rover ! Why didn't the previous owner take it to Land Rover .. This massive problem jumping out it's so obvious .. Crazy! Did the previous owners not here & feel the noices?? Is anyone reading any comments... Surely this problem hasn't just started making all these noises? It's frightening! Only by chance I phoned land Rover to ask if the could check the vehicle out making awful din on front end? To be told about the Recall! Previous owner Surely didn't get rid not realising it had a Recall???
Some people never think to check for recalls on an older car and assume it's out of warranty or that any recalls have already been done. I've also heard that a general recall hasn't been issued for the steering rack issue, but that JLR are doing them a batch at a time and advising customers when theirs is due to be done. I know there have been reported problems but it hasn't affected a large number of vehicles. But if something has just failed or gone wrong there's every chance that they didn't know anything was wrong or was about to go wrong. A fault isn't a fault until it actually occurs. Didn't you spot it on your test drive? Don't tell me you bought it without test driving it? Or they probably did know, got a quote for a big bill and sold it on instead. I would never buy a car without an AA or RAC inspection and at least 3 months warranty, then you can take it straight to your local garage, have them go over everything and look for any potential faults then take it straight back if you find any. Better spend a bit extra when you buy it than get a big bill shortly after because you didn't do any checks.
Glad it helped 👍Our evoque didnt suffer the issue, but our 2016 discoverysport did last year. Buy after 2017 when the bolts were revised, problem solved.
@@blissbhojan There is now a LRJ recall to replace these bolts. They are recalling from early 2017 to start with and then working their way to the older models. If they fail before the recall then they will repair it free of charge as it is a known issue. You do have to wait for the recall letter as they won't allow you to just book it in for the replacement bolts. Hope this helps.
I am actually considering buying this car now. Some people will say I am crazy to buy such an old car when I can get a 2020 Ford Kuga, Volvo XC40 or Audi Q3 for about the same price.
@@midlifemotors5050 I will test drive it! Still have a few months to make a final decision. The Range Rover just keeps drawing my attention. I loved the review btw!
Got exactly the same car, just coming up to 61k millage, steering rack done at 40k millage by LR, 3 keyless entry door locks replaced, rear diff exchange & haldex serviced including oil, filter & clutch replacement by 'Bell Engineering' Kidderminster, love the car but do come with issues
Nice review. I'm looking for one at the moment, so very useful but one or two strange comments in there. The 6 speed XF gearbox is a fine gearbox, got it in my current car and it's been very well received all over the world so I don't really understand your comments on that. The Sport and Dynamic modes do make a difference. If they dpn't in your car, something's not working. The paddles can be handy for a quick change down, again I have them in my car but if you're happy just pottering around in it that's fine, bot not everybody wants to drive like that and sometimes we like that bit of extra functionality. I don't understand why you're complaining about a function you don't even use. My understanding is the original steering racks with the issues were aluminium, and there have been a few reports in early models of the issue. I may be wrong.
I'm near to buy one 2012 model with 160.000 km in Austria. It would be nearly my first SUV and my first owned car. To say clearly, I like this car because it's a Range Rover, but I can't be sure about its km. So, is it to high to buy for an Evoque order is it understandable, I don't know. What would you prefer? It would cost my around 20,000 euros in Europe?
Great review. That's a lovely looking motor, when they first came out with the posh spice links, the rear of the car, the hype? I didn't like them - it all felt like early Sierras, five years before their time. The Evoque has aged well though, still looks very contemporary too, so it's grown on me. The question is; a 9 year old Evoque or a 9 year old Cayenne (supported by a local specialist as opposed to the local main dealer rip off merchant)? The bolt issue is a shocker - I love JLR products but I'm not sure if I'd like to live with one. I've loved LRs and RRs since childhood, my dad had a S2 and S3 swb. His friend had a very early RR circa 1970 - I loved riding in that and our neighbour sometimes gave us a lift in the early GTX RRs too. So I love them, came close to owning a RR but there was always something wrong with the car when I chipped away at it, so I gave up. I've also friends who've worked for JLR under contract, so I've seen it through other eyes. Similar issues with friends/employers who've had F types etc. Having said all of that the Freelander was good vehicle iirc and that factory made good cars fwict. With the bolts - are they easy to access to spray with a thin rust preventative, that will also run into the threads etc? Eg Supertrol or similar? Sounds like JLR have ruined the ship for a ha'porth of tar - they don't want to fess up, par for the course with the motor industry 😠 Stainless steel bolts to the correct tensile strength would have been a better bet.
The evoque is still a great looker, no doubt. The Zanzibar colour of that car really helped it stand out. Tbh I’m not a fan of the Porsche looks and they’re by no means as reliable as the press would have you believe either. The bolts is a random thing, they’re not easy to get to no and one is hidden by the subframe so it’s a lot of labour. It is now a recall, finally, so that helps and if you go for 2017 or newer then the problem doesn’t exist. Check the lights for delamination, mine were just starting to show, and check the steering wheel controls and auto close all works otherwise it may need a new battery and that’s pricey. Otherwise the evoque does seem like a safe, reliable and cost effective car in my experience. Thanks for watching and great comments 👍
I’m considering getting one of these but the one thing that frightens me a little bit is the negative reviews in regard to the reliability. Can anybody tell me have they really had any problems and if I buy one with a good service history should I be concerned. I know nobody can obviously give guarantees of reliability but is it really as bad as what some of the reviews say?
I think the general rules are stay away from the ingenium engined cars, fsh, check absolutely all the electrics work and listen for any knocks and noises during the test drive. If any of that doesn’t check out, walk away. Also worth checking some of the buyer’s guides on you tube first too.
I think you have made a good choice with the 2.2 engine . If looked after this engine is a 250,000 miler . The ingenium engine is like russian roulette , you may get a good one or you may end up with a £ 10000 bill like my mate ( 44,000 miles full LRMD history and they did not want to know even though he had a Range Rover and 110 Defender on order )
Like you I had a Kuga, changed to the 3 door coupe. Rear seats never used. Fuel consumption sub 30mpg, power steering failed and replaced by LR, haldex failed replaced by LR at a significant discount. Take off at junctions is slow heart in mouth joining fast traffic. Just had timing belt changed at 7 years.... expensive. Eco stop start works some time. But its a great car and I'm hanging on to it till LR bring out the hydrogen version.
Sounds like you need to do a gearbox reset. Mine did exactly what you describe. It's a fix you can do at home from the driver's seat. Try Googling it, its quite well known now. Let me know if your struggling and i'll try and dig out the instructions, sure I saved them somewhere.
Useful review. Although I dont really understand why you wouldn't have the bolts replaced, if they bother you so much - it clearly affects your enjoyment of the car. Cost of course may be a factor, but one of your 'replyers' says its about £100, including the bolts! I'm sure you have your own opinion on that, though..
Unfortuately it's not quite as simple as someone suggested and often people spend money replacing the wrong bolts. 1 of the steering rack bolts is obscured by the subframe. If it was only £100 pounds JLR would have done a recall no doubt. Fortuately this car wasn't effected however our dicosport (seen in a later video) has just returned from the dealer having suffered the dreaded fate. Fortunately "fixed on failure" which saves ££thousands. As I said, great car, but people do need to be aware.
Hi Neil, thanks for taking the trouble to reply to my recent commnent. I am new to your channel, and am enjoying what I've seen so far? I had a MK1 MR2, about 10 years ago, which I really enjoyed, although,, early on, I did have minor incident on a roundabout ( greasy road surfaceI think) where I bashed up a front wheel - made me a bit iwary of mid engined cars a bit! So any way, enjoying the MX5, & the MR2 video's - bit of a Bond' fan as well, so the Skyfall trip was amazing - something I should try & do! Keep up the good work, amd I am looking forward to catching up on more of your channel - take care!
I experienced a rattle as well in my LAnd Rover Discovery Sport and found out it was my sunglasses in the overhead compartment (is this the correct name?).
I have been driving SUV's for many of years now, and I have discovered that when the vehicle has a sunglasses holder above the head. If the glasses aren't sitting in the holder properly, then you get an annoying rattling noise...
I've just got a 2017 evoque and when I turn left at slow speeds it knocks not driven it since as want to get it to a garage to double check what it is.. could it be something to do with the steering rack bolts
They changed to the updated bolts in 2017, so if it’s an early car maybe, if it’s a later year model it’s perhaps something else. I had my front ARB bushes changed as they knocked??
@@midlifemotors5050 hope so need the extra space for my work tools 😂 don’t quite want a van as I like to go away with the mrs the odd weekend she won’t get seen in a van so a nice keep seems the best way haha Any recommendations as to where I should take the Audi ?
Hear you and think you're probably right, however moved on from this car now (cashed in on these crazy used car prices). Maybe the next owner will do the upgrade??
Don’t remember that being an issue on that car tbh. Its replacement though, a Corolla estate, has a really annoying windscreen glare from the dash at night, grrrrr!!
Fair enough, I should have got on with it 👍 It was an early video, was still learning!! Plenty of room up front, cramped in the rear, boot OK. Only standard servicing for me, no faults in 7 years!! Now sold for ££crazy with the state of the used car market these days - do miss it though.
Ok so your comment on the steering rack issue is wrong! Firstly don’t scare folks thinking they won’t be able to steer! It’s not the bolts holding the rack in place it’s the bolts holding the electric power steering motor to the rack! And they are made from aluminium not mild steel!!! As they were not protected then would start corroding with salt water ingress (so coastal vehicles and those in large urban areas that have a lot of winter gritting would have the issue). I was part of the campaign to force JLR to firstly implement the fix on failure policy and then later to get the recall with the DVSA going. As of Jan 2023 all affected Evoques are covered (2011-2017).
If it’s petrol yes, if it’s the 2.0 diesel ingenium engine then hmmm, be careful they don’t seem to last as well as the old 2.2 diesel. At that age at least you don’t need to worry about the steering rack bolts, it’ll have the upgraded ones 👍
Love your video! Since making this video, has the suspension bolts been an issue or is the car still good without fault with you out of curiosity? I'm looking to buy a 60k mile 2016 Evoque next week and in very two minds
Thanks 👍 the evoque was fine, however our 2016 discovery sport had the steering column bolts fail last year. Fixed foc by land rover within a week so not too big a drama but you are left stranded when it happens. If you can stretch to a 2017 car then I believe the bolts were redesigned from that model year onwards and the issue disappears. Hope that helps.
Always liked the look of this generation, not so much the latest one. I’ve got a Volvo XC40 T5... absolutely love it, had it about 2 years now. A bit thirstier than a thought for a 2.0, but I guess it’s AWD and has 250bhp.
My Dad drives an XC40 too, it's lovely. Goes better, rides better, no issues, just a better car IMO. Except...1 important thing...I prefer the looks of the Evoque, but obviously I'm biased 😉
Interested in one of these, but the steering rack problem is scary. How is that not a recall? Going up or down the motorway at 70mph and your steering goes. 💩 Your pants time
Have you driven this on snow up a hill? Very specific I know but I live in Sheffield and needing a 4wd and last few years my Peugeot just hasn't been up to the job. Great review mate! Thanks
Thanks for watching 👍 We're based on the West coast of Scotland now and the Evoque really excels in the winter. Grip galore, any conditions. Only real compromise is the slightly lower ground clearance if venturing off-road.
At 7 years I thought to myself now that's a proper car review. But 50000 miles on is nothing. To me that's a new car. Shouldn't have car issues before 100000 miles. And then only minor items.
@@midlifemotors5050 Thanks - The steering bolt issue quite frankly is a recall and so the fact that they still sell cars with the issue, knowing full well it’s a problem, puts me off the brand massively
@@Tackyauto 100% correct, it should be a recall for sure. I can't speak for the newer cars but believe JLR finally solved the issue 2017 onwards. I'd have another, but will lease next time.
@@Tackyauto It's a great car/product that gets lots of positive comments. Just wish JLR would focus more on getting the basic reliability/quality issues sorted. In this day and age it's just not acceptable any more. Don't understand why they find it so hard??!!
@@scottyp1348 Turned out to be the switch for the roof blind. Cheap and easy to swap for a new one, rattle gone 👍 Quite common according to the parts department people.
The problem is not the three bolts, but the ridiculous amount of money they charge to get them replaced. The same ridiculous price as on every other Land Rover repair. So buy this car, especially the older 2.2l Diesel last longer than the newer Ingenium, but drive it only under warranty. As soon as the warranty expires, sell this car. People have repair costs all the way from 3000 for a simple fuel pump to 14000 for gear boxes or engine failures. A lot of cars get stolen or crashed to get insurance before a repair is neccessary. No one, that owned a LandRover, will ever buy a LandRover again, if he experienced the ridiculous repair costs. That's why LandRover now has problems selling any vehicles. Watch the channel 'LR time' to get insight.
Great video, just this morning I went to the dealership to buy this car, exactly the used 2.2 engine with automatic gearbox. I was told that they will be looking for an imported one from Germany, mileage around 120,000 kilometers with automatic transmission, what can you advise me? I clearly told him certified cars and regular maintenance, I intend to redo the distribution at least to rest assured, all around € 22,000 / 23,000. Thank you!
Glad you liked it. They are good cars if you buy wisely. The 2.2 engine with the 9 speed gearbox does work well. Depending on age the timing belt may need done. Advised every 7 years here in the UK. Check tyres and brakes too. They do last well but pricey when time to replace. Otherwise just enjoy the car.
My experience is reliability is fine. The 2.2 engine seems to cause far fewer problems than the later 2.0 ingenium unit. Just check all the electrics work, then check them all again. Silly things like the rear view cameras can go wrong. Then just enjoy.
Keep looking at these, such a great looking Range Rover esp considering yours is 7 years old loos better then some new cars today. I own a BMW and have 26500 miles on the clock (2017 1 series) and had a sensor gone on the exhaust something to do with air pressure sensor and the clutch needed to be change (this all paid for out of my pocket) its probably the worst gearbox ever, but for a clutch to go like that is disgusting read others have had the same (been driving for 30+ yrs so yes I know how to drive lol) So I find all cars have some sort of issues , also owned a Merc with 33k and the timing chain stretched even though I serviced the car yearly.
I think with the Evoque you still get good (Monday) and bad (Friday) cars. Get a good one and you'll love it, a bad one will drive you insane!! IMO they still do look great though.
I think the problem with JLR stuff is you still get a Monday and a Friday car. Get a good one and it's brilliant, get a duffer and it's a nightmare from day 1!! The Japanese stuff all just seem to work. Why can't JLR improve their QA dept to ensure it's all good?? In this day and age surely it can't be that hard?? After all they've done the hard bit - designed a great car 👌
Daily driver for 7 years,,,,,, 30k miles???? Not much driving,,, nope it dont have a full 4wheel drive system either,,, it uses haldex,,, no center diff
This clown knows virtually nothing about cars yet is doing a review on one of the best SUV's of all time. 'Dynamic mode which does nuff-ing.....it doesn't become dynamic it just remains as a Range Rover...' You plonker.... Dynamic mode sharpens throttle response, changes gears at high revs, and engages dampeners to help the car feel planted.....you just drive around at 40mph....try driving it at 60mph on tighter country roads.
@@midlifemotors5050 I'd rather just enjoy my Evoque to be honest. I have the SD Lux 2013, 2.2L with 6 speed. Awesome car, gearbox is super, ride amazing, a beast on the motorway. The only downside is the old infotainment and MPG is awful.
Great review, thanks a lot. One thing I'd like to add or correct is that the paddles are not necessarily meant to make it sporty but to manually downshift when driving down a hill to use engine brakes. Back in the days we had a lever saying P R N D 3 2 1 and we'd just shift down a gear driving down a mountain. Now we do it with the paddles.
I suppose it's only relevant if you live in a hilly area / mountain area. I live near the Alps, therefore I need frequently.
This is a really a good ownership review. There are a few youtubers who just give 6 months ownership review of a car just to highlight the comfort and technology. Ownership review video should also include maintanence, quality and any parts replacement for car. Really good honest car review and a good reference video for anyone who is planning to buy a used Evoque.
One of the best reviews I have seen on youtube
Many thanks 👍 It was an early review for me but seems to have hit the spot/helped a lot of people, so that's nice to know.
Great informative review. I have an old 2008 LR Freelander 2 with 120000 miles and wouldn’t part with it - get 40mpg on a long run, still comfortable, everything still works, I can service most things myself and the FWD is really effective when called on. If you look after most LR’s they are pretty reliable. Thanks again for a reasonably positive LR review 😁
I've a close friend with a 2010 Freelander HSE. It's lovely. Hoping to do a swap with him one day soon so I can bring it to the channel. I think a lot of people run LRs on a tiny budget, then they wonder why they don't work??!!
@@midlifemotors5050 spot on, tbh most issues are caused by neglect and misuse 😁
I had my freelander 1 td4 auto for 16 years never let me down once, loved it now got a evoque.
@@edfrench4053 I’m thinking of trading my 2013 freelander2 for an Evoque. I remember when I bought the freelander I thought it would be my last car and it still may be given how little I drive these days..
I would keep the freelander if it is good, my 2016 evouque only gets 30 mpg on average. too many silly warning signs coming on and off and niggly things like bonnet open when it's been closed so you have to open and shut it again, manual gearshift inactive when it's a auto ! !....but it' is a lovely drive though😊
I have the same one , same color too 😍😍 2015 !!! Still have it and love it
Deffo the best colour for an Evoque, by miles. Shame they don't still do it tbh.
Appreciated that fully honest review
Hope it helped. Just as an update, sold this car nearly a year ago now. Still miss it 😢
I have a 2016 Evoque with the 2.0 Diesel. It's now at 166'000km feels & looks like new.
Great stuff. Good to see it's still going well 👍
@Alidumanify how many km/ miles? The dpf is a problem if you drive short distances. It gets clogged up but that's with many new diesels, also in my Volkswagen. I drove around 15'000km with check engine on because there was something with the exhaust system to get fixed.(after 170'000km.) but now everything is good and it's at 198'000km
@Alidumanify if those 10-15 miles are one drive, you don't have to worry. 15 miles should be enough to get an engine warm and I know that from my diesels. However I guess it's through the whole day, so there is nothing much you can do, besides using higher quality fuel, or more useful, get it on the highway for at least once a week. If you drive at higher speeds than lets say 70mph, engine oil can get up over 100 degree celsius so all the water and fuel vaporizes from the oil, and also exhaust temperatures get higher, so that soot is blown out when you press the gas pedal.
- Get in on the highway at least 1x a week, and when you do so, don't be afraid to push it to 3000rpm for once
- be careful with cold starts, usually don't rev over 2000
Even if the dpf makes problems, there are different ways to fix it than replacing it, like for ex, cleaning it
@Alidumanify do you have the 180hp diesel?
@Alidumanify you'll notice that the dpf is regenerating when suddenly the consumption starts to rise. Just keep driving normal, don't push it too hard while it's regenerating.
If you out of warranty and free service, don't hesitate to change oil already at 20-25'000km. Don't wait for 30k+, it's just to much - or 18 months, whichever comes first.
This car is such a beauty and very classy and comfortable. You've only driven it for 30K miles in 7+ years 🙀, the second owner will be lucky.
Thanks. It always does seem to get nice comments this car. Working in London for so long does keep the miles down.
It's me 😀
@@snookerturk Excellent stuff - hope she is still going well 👍
Great review. I still have my original top of the range 2012 Evoque SD4 Dynamic i ordered from new. Done 144000kms and I still love this car. Service it once a year....all electrics and everything still works since new , and for the most part, i consider it reliable, but the only things that have required change over 9 years is 2 x starter motors, and a new valve body for the six speed auto transmission. The valve body was because it started flaring a bit in 3rd & 4th gear shifts.
I think the original design looks better then the new one. While the new one looks like it has had botox...slightly less character overall in my opinion.
Great stuff, sounds like you've got a good one 👍 The original design is so much nicer, I agree. Even prefer the original DRLs to the updated ones which just went the same way as the rest of the range.
@@midlifemotors5050 Nailed it too about the original DRL's...totally agree. Just on a side note, the 2.2L diesel engine i have in the Evoque, was actually derived from the PSA Group (Peugeot/Citroen), and is known as the PSA DW12. Another bit of interesting info, is the 6-speed Auto in mine is an Aisin (Japanese), and the starter motors are Denso (Also Japanese). So i was a bit surprised these failed me, as "Made in Japan" is largely synonymous with outright reliability. I guess just wear & tear really.
But yep, your right, besides these things, its been a real Gem to own in every way over all these years.
I find the 6 speed auto works well with the high torque delivered by the diesel...its a sort of relaxing drive because of the torque, and thus without the hunting of gears.
Mine is Indus Silver with a black roof, and 20'' shadow Chrome wheels of the same design as yours. This thing still turns heads everywhere i go, even after all these years, which again, is testament to its bold, unique and radical design masterpiece that it is.
Keep up the great work. Cheers
My daughter just bought 10 yr old dynamique lux 2.2. Immaculate 82k what a beautiful machine. Pure luxury and I am a convert would like a petrol myself
I bought a 2012 dynamic model six months old and had it for almost four years and was quite happy with it, no problems until my second MOT pointed out an oil leak from the crank front oil seal, repair estimate about £900 so I traded it for a BMW. Now on the look out for an almost new car and considering the Evoque once again.
They are expensive now!! I sold mine for ££many last year with the current used car boom. Do miss it but tbh probably couldn't afford one now 😢
My goodness. I came for the car but I stayed for the presenter.
I like how some poor soul thumbed up my comment. I find the man really handsome, alright? Had to say it.
He is charming
@@Commentator541 It was me 🤣
@@midlifemotors5050 you were great! Getting my first range rover in 3 days so came across your video, you should be on top gear!!!!
Seen your comments and after taking that into consideration I absolutely agree with you. Feels relaxed, honest, factual and informative. Presenter needs to be encouraged to keep doing what he’s doing. I hope he gets sponsorship and the freedom to unconditionally say it as it is.
I believe there is now a LRJ recall to replace these bolts. They are recalling from early 2017 to start with and then working their way to the older models. If they fail before the recall then they will repair it free of charge as it is a known issue. You do have to wait for the recall letter as they won't allow you to just book it in for the replacement bolts. Hope this helps.
That's a great update 👍 About time from JLR tbh and will hopefully put a lot owner's minds at rest. Thanks for the info.
Is there any way to check if the car has been recalled for this issue when buying on the second market?
No need to wait for JLR to contact you. I contacted my local dealer and booked it in - no problem. Mine is an early 2011 model.
@@123italiano321 Generally speaking, if you check the official government website for MOT records it will say if there are any outstanding recalls. Failing that just get the registration number and call JLR and ask them, ideally they need the VIN number but should be able to find it from the reg. plate.
Literally just bought a 2013 evoque with the upgraded sound system, with 4K miles on it. It literally sat in a garage the whole time. Thing is nice man
Great stuff 👍 Sounds like a superb buy. You'll enjoy that. They are a lovely drive, no doubt.
my goodness, you struck gold, after driving range rovers and mercedes i don't think i will ever drive any other car
How much did you pay
Yes how much?
Nice if you can get them with really low miles that haven't been used at all, but be very wary of any used diesel with generally low mileage. It most likely means it has only been used for local trips so will be coked up. I made the mistake with my current car, 20k lower miles than average but for exactly that reason, the owner had only done 4k miles a year and probably only used it to go to the local shops. It took me 2 years to get it running right, had to swap out both turbos in the end, had the DPF cleaned 3 times, EGR valves, you name it. With diesel I'd go the other way and look for a higher mileage one that's only been up and down the motorway every day.
Try driving it down a mountain in Slovenia! Then being able to select and hold a gear is indispensable! We absolutely love ours! Been right across Europe 6 or 7 times! We get 48 mpg out of ours 2017! Currently living in Belarus so in winters are long and snow 5 months a year! 4WD essential!
Sounds like you've got the perfect car there John, good stuff 👍 48mpg is impressive. They are great cars.
If they maintain roads in Belarus then 2WD is safer. You get better feel of grip, 4WD does not give to better breaking performance.
Love the colour and the wheels.
That alone is going to make any resale easy.
Thanks 👍 The colour is a bit marmite, people either seems to love it or hate it. I like it because it's different.
thanks for the review!! I have been thinking of buying one that's a few years old so this helped!!
Glad it helped 👍The Evoque is a great piece of kit but the steering rack issue is real. Our DiscoSport recently failed. Fixed FOC by JLR but what a pain, grrrr!! If you can get 2018 or newer, issue gone, or a car that has been fixed previously.
I must add that in a few cases when the motor has fallen off from the bolts breaking, sometimes debris gets stuck in the pinion gears of the rack and jam up the steering making it impossible to steer. J
The design of Range Rover is ageless. Whether it's 2014 or 2023, it still looks really cool and modern.
Agree 100%, great looking car. Beautiful interior too 👌
I agree. Hence ik getting my second one despite its issues. I love the look. I always smile when I see a Range Rover Evoque.
I had the same rattle, took the panel down and applied some felt tape where there was some already but it had compressed over time. Nice video!
Also, steering rack bolts can be replaced preventatively for about 1 hour of labor + parts by a competent mechanic. Not a problem for a California car like mine, but if you're worried call around, it can be done without removing the subframe, unless they've snapped. Cheers
Many thanks 👍 Ended up changing the switch for the roof blind in the end. Fortunately a cheap and easy fix.
Survived the steering rack issues in the end, does seem to be very hit and miss. Car now sold, the money offered for used cars here in Scotland is bonkers at present. Honestly, do miss the car but just couldn't turn the offer down.
Thanks for sharing..I didn't know about the Steering rack issues. I read about some minor problems on internet like: door locks failure or navigation or windshield wipers or tire pressure monitor. I bought used Evoque 2013 sd4, 2years ago & haven't given me any problems so far...now I'm worried about my steering rack because it will be catastrophic if it fails when I'm on highway. I'm not a mechanic, but i guess that a car made with off-road capabilities should have robust undercarriage than that of electric scooter. I also Subscribed to your wonderful channel today and keep those videos coming.🤣🤣👍🏾
Thanks for your support, much appreciated 👍 Mine is fine, so you could well be worrying over nothing, like me🤣 . The earlier cars do seem better for some reason??!! Our 2016 Disco Sport (latest video) on the other hand has had all the issues you mention...go figure?? JLR quality control at its best!!
@@midlifemotors5050 Thank you very much for your reply, you're right...I could be worrying over nothing, instead of enjoying my wonderful car. Nevertheless, when I go for my next Oil change service will also asked the mechanic to check if my steering rack is still ok. Thanks.🤣🤣🤣👍🏾🙏🏾
@@bigdudetv7115 FYI - There is now a LRJ recall to replace these bolts. They are recalling from early 2017 to start with and then working their way to the older models. If they fail before the recall then they will repair it free of charge as it is a known issue. You do have to wait for the recall letter as they won't allow you to just book it in for the replacement bolts. Hope this helps.
Have had Mercedes , Jaguar s-type , BMW - the 2015 Evoque is by far the best I have owned
good review I have a 2015 2.2sd4 pure 6 speed manual I have to agree with all he says the only problem I hit I bought mine with 10,000 on the clock and I tow a caravan with it and it pulls a 7metre caravan great with no problems approx 28 to 30 ,000 the clutch went took it to a local garage and it cost £900 that including labour they did mention they had to change some bolts as they had some problems with them so I take it there the ones mentioned, but I like it comfortable to drive and does what I need it for.
I’ve got a 66 plate, had it 1 year with 35000 on the clock, had issues with the engine management light since June, drove OK but got it in at the first opportunity, fault was diagnosed as a Nox2 sensor which was replaced under a third party warranty, picked it up 3 weeks later and took it for a 30 mile drive, no problems at all.
Turned the engine off and when I went to use it the next day, engine management light back on again!! Booked it in again and fault diagnosed as faulty EGR valve and cooler, still in the garage being replaced under warranty again, it’s affected how I feel about driving a Land Rover without a warranty as I’d be around £1300 out of pocket for the two fixes for a car I’ve owned for a year, my plan is to get the car back (eventually) leave it a month or so and then trade it in for either a BMW X3, a Volvo XC60 or an Audi Q5
Not good fella, I feel your pain. Do still seem to hear of Evoques either working perfectly for years or causing bother for years. Very hit and miss these cars??!! Come on JLR, QA do some better QA. How hard can it be??
My Dad drives an XC40, beautiful car. Quieter than the Evoque, better ride, lovely place to be and I like that the pan roof opens too. Not quite as much ooomph and IMO the Evoque looks better, but that's a personal thing.
Hope you get sorted soon 🤞
@@midlifemotors5050 well I collected it today after having the EGR valve & EGR cooler replaced, valves reprogrammed?? And tested, had to pick it up after the service centre closed so got the keys from reception, turned the engine on and …………… EML light still illuminated! I really do give up with it 😠
@@paulefc1971 Man, that is terrible!! Must be at your wits end. I once had a Mitsubishi that just never really worked properly. Gave up with that in the end too. Sometimes you just have to move on otherwise I recon it'll drive you mad!! It's only a car at the end of the day.
@@midlifemotors5050 well, latest update (and hopefully the last), I dropped it off at the dealers yesterday, they bumped it up the queue- as they should, and started working on it again today, had a phone call around 1430 to say that it’s (again) ready for collection and it didn’t need any new parts this time, they reckon that when they replaced the EGR valve, they didn’t tighten a hose enough which was causing the EML to illuminate, so 🤞 that should be the issue resolved, although it’s been a really nice car to drive and it obviously looks good and it may run ok for years without issue now, I’m going to get my holidays out the way and look for a new car, my candidate at the minute will probably be a 2019/20 BMW X3 - thanks for your replies 👍
@@paulefc1971 Well, fingers crossed fella and good luck, you deserve a break!! Enjoy your holiday and new car when it comes 👍
I'm in N.America and, these cars are sporting FORD badges.
Rattle could be the wiring for your dashcam if its been wired intoi the overhead panel
A really really good review , You can do this big time , Sub for you !
Many thanks 👍 still going, getting better 🤞
You made me laugh with the 'end on a bit of a low' but I owned a brand new LR about 15 years ago and I felt almost exactly like you do. The car had a great interior was comfortable and felt solid and ready to run forever BUT I was deathly afraid of the steering bolt problem and the brakes wore out too quickly! I will ONLY get another LR if I lease it with maintenance prepaid! Fun review!
Leasing does seem to be a sensible way of running a LR product without the worry these days. I'd probably do exactly the same thing now. Thanks for watching.
Dont worry about the steering Bolts? (If nuts and butts where a bucket of nuts ) no need what so ever to not consider this fantastic Car mine is the 2017 Evoke Auto biography (45000 miles) and is probably the best car I have ever owned I had 23 MX5s and another 250 cars in my history so I have put the years into evaluating cars be happy with this one!!!
Good review, straight to the point and transparent
Many thanks 👍 Do still kinda wish I didn’t sell that car tbh, miss it
The good first. I had a 2014. I've had 37 new vehicles in my life. From a Suzuki Samurai, to Corvette Grand Sport and just about everything in-between. I've had 2 LR Discoveries and then the Evoque. I now have a $68,000 Jeep Wrangler electric hybrid. I've had 6 Wranglers. All very reliable. Pickup trucks from Toyota to Ford to Chevy to Honda. OH, and even a Mazda B4000 which is basically a Ford Ranger. With all that said, I loved the drive and feel, and character of all 3 of my LR products more then anything else I ever had. What I didn't love is that all 3 were literally the most unreliable vehicles of everything I've had. The Evoque was the worst. The transmission needed 8 updates and it still was awful. Engine cooling light, plastic body trim pieces always needed to be snapped back into place. My wife and I rented a Hurtz rental car to take a 15 hour trip because I didn't trust that my Evoque would make it without trouble. My brothers Range Rover had a ton of problems. With that said, he just bought a new Discovery Sport. Why, because there is just something about LR products that touches on all 5 of ones senses, maybe even a sixth. He traded in his perfect Jeep Cherokee for it. My wife's Jeep Cherokee is also perfect at 45K miles. Here I am, looking at the new Defender. I get goosbumps when I watch reviews of it. I still love the idea of getting another Evoque perhaps. I just can't get LR out from under my skin. What to do. Hmmm, love these awful English box's.
Think you've hit the nail on the head right there tbh. How can JLR create such a strong brand, build cars we all want then go and let it all down with basic quality assurance issues. It's like they've done the hard bit then just loose focus. I mean in this day and age how hard can it be?? 100k in a Rav4, not a single issue and still going strong. And this is par for the course from a Toyota. Get it together JLR!!
Haaahhh! Once you go LR, you don't go back...to other brands. 🤣 🤣 🤣
@@midlifemotors5050 You're right. LR dropped the ball on the last minutes of the game, regarding quality and reliability. LR is such a premium brand that has certain class...and it's very disappointing to see owners( in their smart attires) stuck on the side of the road waiting for breakdowns rescue.🤣 🤣 🤣
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what is the insurance price / and service price ,and fuel cost per month,,,
So pleased i watched your video
Im in the process of buying a 2016 30k miles evoque and asked at the dealer about the steering rack bolts and they have it booked to have them replaced before i pick it up
2 year warranty with land rover for under £800 too happy days
Oh and they replaced the rattly heat sheild too same fault you had with your discovery sport
Good stuff, glad it helped 👍 Enjoy the car, they're fairly reliable these days tbh and you've got the main drama fixed. Nice work.
My one was a little bit unlucky , not the steering wheel, but the turbo failure , this K03 by Borgwarner is notoriously bad for the oil seal and it was lack of power n burning white gas out of the exhaust, and the oil leak of the turbo destroy the whole cat , luckily I works as a mechanic n getting aftermarket parts is dirt cheap for me, and it runs perfectly afterwards.
I got more than ten customers drive with this model have very few problems, the most common one r the thermostat housing leaking water, ac pump failure, or rear parking sensor problems. Other than that just regular service, for the European car stand point , this baby is relatively reliable if compare to bmw , VW n Audi s SUVs.
Probably best to change the bolts it works out to be around £100 including the bolts. Great value for a precautionary measure
100%. 1 of the bolts is a bit hidden by the sub-frame and you have to be careful not to snap them taking them out (bye bye fix on failure if you do that) but get it done and you're breathing a BIG sigh of relief!!
My rattle from the same place was the electric roof button, not the surrounding plastic. I just wedged a bit of card in it.
Yup, was the button. Changed the switch and rattle disappeared 👍
The fix for the noisy top panel is have the radio on louder.... your welcome.
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Very interesting review, congrats!
Best regards from Spain
Many thanks, hope it helped 👍
Think most of us Scots would love to be in Spain right now 😎
@@midlifemotors5050 Thank you very much for your message. You are always welcome in our country! Cheers! Angel
Great review, thankyou
I'm a now a Range rover evoque sd4 2014 owner. I just recently bought the car & now. I've driven the car & and found massive problems with steering- knocking , clunking, advised, and a recall on this car. It's going into Land Rover !
Why didn't the previous owner take it to Land Rover ..
This massive problem jumping out it's so obvious ..
Crazy!
Did the previous owners not here & feel the noices??
Is anyone reading any comments...
Surely this problem hasn't just started making all these noises?
It's frightening!
Only by chance I phoned land Rover to ask if the could check the vehicle out making awful din on front end?
To be told about the Recall!
Previous owner Surely didn't get rid not realising it had a Recall???
Some people never think to check for recalls on an older car and assume it's out of warranty or that any recalls have already been done. I've also heard that a general recall hasn't been issued for the steering rack issue, but that JLR are doing them a batch at a time and advising customers when theirs is due to be done. I know there have been reported problems but it hasn't affected a large number of vehicles.
But if something has just failed or gone wrong there's every chance that they didn't know anything was wrong or was about to go wrong. A fault isn't a fault until it actually occurs. Didn't you spot it on your test drive? Don't tell me you bought it without test driving it?
Or they probably did know, got a quote for a big bill and sold it on instead. I would never buy a car without an AA or RAC inspection and at least 3 months warranty, then you can take it straight to your local garage, have them go over everything and look for any potential faults then take it straight back if you find any. Better spend a bit extra when you buy it than get a big bill shortly after because you didn't do any checks.
Thanks For The Crucial info about the steering bolts 🙏 Great review ❣️🇮🇳🌹
Glad it helped 👍Our evoque didnt suffer the issue, but our 2016 discoverysport did last year. Buy after 2017 when the bolts were revised, problem solved.
@@midlifemotors5050 I was thinking of going for the 2015 but now have to tread the path carefully 😀
@@blissbhojan There is now a LRJ recall to replace these bolts. They are recalling from early 2017 to start with and then working their way to the older models. If they fail before the recall then they will repair it free of charge as it is a known issue. You do have to wait for the recall letter as they won't allow you to just book it in for the replacement bolts. Hope this helps.
I am actually considering buying this car now. Some people will say I am crazy to buy such an old car when I can get a 2020 Ford Kuga, Volvo XC40 or Audi Q3 for about the same price.
Fair enough. If it’s what you want go for it, life’s too short. Do try the XC40 though, that’s an impressive bit of kit IMO 👍
@@midlifemotors5050 I will test drive it! Still have a few months to make a final decision. The Range Rover just keeps drawing my attention.
I loved the review btw!
Got exactly the same car, just coming up to 61k millage, steering rack done at 40k millage by LR, 3 keyless entry door locks replaced, rear diff exchange & haldex serviced including oil, filter & clutch replacement by 'Bell Engineering' Kidderminster, love the car but do come with issues
Doesn't it just look so good in Zanzibar 👌
its the cable supplying that console remove the panel and pull tight the cable and tie wrap it, refit panel
Nice review. I'm looking for one at the moment, so very useful but one or two strange comments in there. The 6 speed XF gearbox is a fine gearbox, got it in my current car and it's been very well received all over the world so I don't really understand your comments on that.
The Sport and Dynamic modes do make a difference. If they dpn't in your car, something's not working. The paddles can be handy for a quick change down, again I have them in my car but if you're happy just pottering around in it that's fine, bot not everybody wants to drive like that and sometimes we like that bit of extra functionality. I don't understand why you're complaining about a function you don't even use.
My understanding is the original steering racks with the issues were aluminium, and there have been a few reports in early models of the issue. I may be wrong.
The steering rack affects cars up to 2017. Evoque & Disco Sport. It is finally a recall item now so owners can sleep a bit easier 👍
I'm near to buy one 2012 model with 160.000 km in Austria. It would be nearly my first SUV and my first owned car. To say clearly, I like this car because it's a Range Rover, but I can't be sure about its km. So, is it to high to buy for an Evoque order is it understandable, I don't know. What would you prefer? It would cost my around 20,000 euros in Europe?
Great review. That's a lovely looking motor, when they first came out with the posh spice links, the rear of the car, the hype? I didn't like them - it all felt like early Sierras, five years before their time. The Evoque has aged well though, still looks very contemporary too, so it's grown on me. The question is; a 9 year old Evoque or a 9 year old Cayenne (supported by a local specialist as opposed to the local main dealer rip off merchant)?
The bolt issue is a shocker - I love JLR products but I'm not sure if I'd like to live with one. I've loved LRs and RRs since childhood, my dad had a S2 and S3 swb. His friend had a very early RR circa 1970 - I loved riding in that and our neighbour sometimes gave us a lift in the early GTX RRs too. So I love them, came close to owning a RR but there was always something wrong with the car when I chipped away at it, so I gave up. I've also friends who've worked for JLR under contract, so I've seen it through other eyes. Similar issues with friends/employers who've had F types etc. Having said all of that the Freelander was good vehicle iirc and that factory made good cars fwict.
With the bolts - are they easy to access to spray with a thin rust preventative, that will also run into the threads etc? Eg Supertrol or similar?
Sounds like JLR have ruined the ship for a ha'porth of tar - they don't want to fess up, par for the course with the motor industry 😠 Stainless steel bolts to the correct tensile strength would have been a better bet.
The evoque is still a great looker, no doubt. The Zanzibar colour of that car really helped it stand out. Tbh I’m not a fan of the Porsche looks and they’re by no means as reliable as the press would have you believe either.
The bolts is a random thing, they’re not easy to get to no and one is hidden by the subframe so it’s a lot of labour. It is now a recall, finally, so that helps and if you go for 2017 or newer then the problem doesn’t exist.
Check the lights for delamination, mine were just starting to show, and check the steering wheel controls and auto close all works otherwise it may need a new battery and that’s pricey. Otherwise the evoque does seem like a safe, reliable and cost effective car in my experience.
Thanks for watching and great comments 👍
I’m considering getting one of these but the one thing that frightens me a little bit is the negative reviews in regard to the reliability. Can anybody tell me have they really had any problems and if I buy one with a good service history should I be concerned. I know nobody can obviously give guarantees of reliability but is it really as bad as what some of the reviews say?
I think the general rules are stay away from the ingenium engined cars, fsh, check absolutely all the electrics work and listen for any knocks and noises during the test drive.
If any of that doesn’t check out, walk away.
Also worth checking some of the buyer’s guides on you tube first too.
I think you have made a good choice with the 2.2 engine . If looked after this engine is a 250,000 miler . The ingenium engine is like russian roulette , you may get a good one or you may end up with a £ 10000 bill like my mate ( 44,000 miles full LRMD history and they did not want to know even though he had a Range Rover and 110 Defender on order )
Ford have a recall on the mondeo steering rack bolts breaking same problem
Ah, good info 👍 JLR have now listened to sense and issued a recall too
Get a local garage to spray some anti rust spray on the boltz?
Good shout. Not sure how easy they are to get to but anything that could help is worth looking into.
Like you I had a Kuga, changed to the 3 door coupe. Rear seats never used. Fuel consumption sub 30mpg, power steering failed and replaced by LR, haldex failed replaced by LR at a significant discount. Take off at junctions is slow heart in mouth joining fast traffic. Just had timing belt changed at 7 years.... expensive. Eco stop start works some time. But its a great car and I'm hanging on to it till LR bring out the hydrogen version.
Sounds like you need to do a gearbox reset. Mine did exactly what you describe. It's a fix you can do at home from the driver's seat. Try Googling it, its quite well known now. Let me know if your struggling and i'll try and dig out the instructions, sure I saved them somewhere.
@@midlifemotors5050 how to have the gearbox reset ?? Thx with regards
@@drpooh1371 A number of people have asked that. Going to dig out the instructions, sure I saved them somewhere. Bare with me...
Useful review. Although I dont really understand why you wouldn't have the bolts replaced, if they bother you so much - it clearly affects your enjoyment of the car. Cost of course may be a factor, but one of your 'replyers' says its about £100, including the bolts! I'm sure you have your own opinion on that, though..
Unfortuately it's not quite as simple as someone suggested and often people spend money replacing the wrong bolts. 1 of the steering rack bolts is obscured by the subframe. If it was only £100 pounds JLR would have done a recall no doubt. Fortuately this car wasn't effected however our dicosport (seen in a later video) has just returned from the dealer having suffered the dreaded fate. Fortunately "fixed on failure" which saves ££thousands. As I said, great car, but people do need to be aware.
Hi Neil, thanks for taking the trouble to reply to my recent commnent. I am new to your channel, and am enjoying what I've seen so far? I had a MK1 MR2, about 10 years ago, which I really enjoyed, although,, early on, I did have minor incident on a roundabout ( greasy road surfaceI think) where I bashed up a front wheel - made me a bit iwary of mid engined cars a bit! So any way, enjoying the MX5, & the MR2 video's - bit of a Bond' fan as well, so the Skyfall trip was amazing - something I should try & do! Keep up the good work, amd I am looking forward to catching up on more of your channel - take care!
I experienced a rattle as well in my LAnd Rover Discovery Sport and found out it was my sunglasses in the overhead compartment (is this the correct name?).
Nice, easy fix, like those 👍 Mine turned out to be the switch for the roof blind - was quite cheap and easy too tbh, phew!!
Why not simply change the steering rack bolts every couple years. Or even after couple of services
I have been driving SUV's for many of years now, and I have discovered that when the vehicle has a sunglasses holder above the head.
If the glasses aren't sitting in the holder properly, then you get an annoying rattling noise...
You should get the bolts changed it works out be less than £100 verses 3k+ bill if they snap
Yup, that is a sensible suggestion. Seems a number of people are indeed doing this now.
I've just got a 2017 evoque and when I turn left at slow speeds it knocks not driven it since as want to get it to a garage to double check what it is.. could it be something to do with the steering rack bolts
They changed to the updated bolts in 2017, so if it’s an early car maybe, if it’s a later year model it’s perhaps something else. I had my front ARB bushes changed as they knocked??
had mine done on re call 17 plate ,bolts
I really want one of these cars wonder how much I’d get for my Audi A3 towards one
You might get a nice surprise, used cars are fetching ££mega right now!!
@@midlifemotors5050 hope so need the extra space for my work tools 😂 don’t quite want a van as I like to go away with the mrs the odd weekend she won’t get seen in a van so a nice keep seems the best way haha Any recommendations as to where I should take the Audi ?
Is the noise not coming from your dash cam I had the same on one of my cars and good not find where it was coming from. But I think it was the camera.
Turned out to be the switch for the roof. A cheap and easy fix which saved my sanity 🤣
Where can you find the evoque Vin chassis or frame number ?
Wonder if the steering rack issue is as acute in drier climates? Asking for Spain.
Less chance of corrosion for sure. The amount of salt they put on the roads in winter here in Scotland is bonkers and doesn't do any car any good!!
Just change the steering rack bolts with stainless one for the peace of mind mate !
Hear you and think you're probably right, however moved on from this car now (cashed in on these crazy used car prices). Maybe the next owner will do the upgrade??
I can see one little interior design fault that would irritate me... the angle of the screen in certain daylight conditions would make it hard to see.
Don’t remember that being an issue on that car tbh. Its replacement though, a Corolla estate, has a really annoying windscreen glare from the dash at night, grrrrr!!
So far so good. But gave up after 8//9 mins. Hows about Space? How much have you spent onit? Gave up waiting
Fair enough, I should have got on with it 👍 It was an early video, was still learning!! Plenty of room up front, cramped in the rear, boot OK. Only standard servicing for me, no faults in 7 years!! Now sold for ££crazy with the state of the used car market these days - do miss it though.
Ok so your comment on the steering rack issue is wrong! Firstly don’t scare folks thinking they won’t be able to steer! It’s not the bolts holding the rack in place it’s the bolts holding the electric power steering motor to the rack! And they are made from aluminium not mild steel!!! As they were not protected then would start corroding with salt water ingress (so coastal vehicles and those in large urban areas that have a lot of winter gritting would have the issue). I was part of the campaign to force JLR to firstly implement the fix on failure policy and then later to get the recall with the DVSA going. As of Jan 2023 all affected Evoques are covered (2011-2017).
Good info and well done with your efforts v JLR, must have been quite difficult at times 👍
Great review thank you 👍🏻
Many thanks. Hope it helped & thanks for watching.
I’m looking at a 67 plate with 80k on it for my wife would you say good choice or not
If it’s petrol yes, if it’s the 2.0 diesel ingenium engine then hmmm, be careful they don’t seem to last as well as the old 2.2 diesel.
At that age at least you don’t need to worry about the steering rack bolts, it’ll have the upgraded ones 👍
How, how, how can these be left on the road? That's frightening. Holy shit.
I am just glad they add a 4 doors
And the 4 door was cheaper for some reason??!!
Great video and nice car
Stick a piece of paper in the latch , let the latch go through the paper to close .
Love your video! Since making this video, has the suspension bolts been an issue or is the car still good without fault with you out of curiosity? I'm looking to buy a 60k mile 2016 Evoque next week and in very two minds
Thanks 👍 the evoque was fine, however our 2016 discovery sport had the steering column bolts fail last year. Fixed foc by land rover within a week so not too big a drama but you are left stranded when it happens. If you can stretch to a 2017 car then I believe the bolts were redesigned from that model year onwards and the issue disappears. Hope that helps.
Always liked the look of this generation, not so much the latest one.
I’ve got a Volvo XC40 T5... absolutely love it, had it about 2 years now.
A bit thirstier than a thought for a 2.0, but I guess it’s AWD and has 250bhp.
My Dad drives an XC40 too, it's lovely. Goes better, rides better, no issues, just a better car IMO. Except...1 important thing...I prefer the looks of the Evoque, but obviously I'm biased 😉
Interested in one of these, but the steering rack problem is scary. How is that not a recall? Going up or down the motorway at 70mph and your steering goes. 💩 Your pants time
Good news is that it is now a full recall after many years of owners petitioning JLR 👍
did they fix the steering wheel issue with the newer model , 2020 and higher?
They did yes, from 2017 onwards all is well.
@@midlifemotors5050 thanks
Is it good for towing
Thanks for sharing
Have you driven this on snow up a hill? Very specific I know but I live in Sheffield and needing a 4wd and last few years my Peugeot just hasn't been up to the job. Great review mate! Thanks
Thanks for watching 👍 We're based on the West coast of Scotland now and the Evoque really excels in the winter. Grip galore, any conditions. Only real compromise is the slightly lower ground clearance if venturing off-road.
@@midlifemotors5050 perfect, that's great! Will look into it a lot more now thank you
@@paolo6336 Get a car after 2017 and you won't have to worry about the steering bolt issue either, which is good.
@@midlifemotors5050 will do 👍🏼
fit all weather tyres 4wd in summer tyres is no better in snow.
9:30, well if it applies to some, it should apply to all.
At 7 years I thought to myself now that's a proper car review. But 50000 miles on is nothing. To me that's a new car. Shouldn't have car issues before 100000 miles. And then only minor items.
Oh well, sorry about that. Can't please all of the people all of the time.
If you can call the reversing camera minor at £300 a pop. We're on our 4th on a 2017! 🤣🤣
@@JRattheranch Here lots of people talking about failed cameras!! Not good.
Thanks m8
No problem. Hope it helped.
It’s the sunroof clips
Correct, it turned out to be the rocker switch for the sunroof. Common i'm led to believe...
I have the same car, same color 😊
Excellent taste 😎
Do these suffer from any major design flaws? RRs always were known for poor reliability - Is it still pot luck?
Only design flaw i've come across is as highlighted at the end of the video. It does still seem to be a bit pot luck though, yes.
@@midlifemotors5050 Thanks - The steering bolt issue quite frankly is a recall and so the fact that they still sell cars with the issue, knowing full well it’s a problem, puts me off the brand massively
@@Tackyauto 100% correct, it should be a recall for sure. I can't speak for the newer cars but believe JLR finally solved the issue 2017 onwards. I'd have another, but will lease next time.
@@midlifemotors5050 Other than that though, seems your experience has been largely positive 👍
@@Tackyauto It's a great car/product that gets lots of positive comments. Just wish JLR would focus more on getting the basic reliability/quality issues sorted. In this day and age it's just not acceptable any more. Don't understand why they find it so hard??!!
Ιs it reliable ?
Hasn't put a foot wrong yet. There, probably jinxed it now :-)
I hit subscribe as you said it 🎉
Many thanks 👍
i love this car..amazing
Think it's the colour. Zanzibar was a brave choice at the time, but it seems to suit the car well and has aged well too. Thanks for the nice comment 👍
Amazing cars
Mine rattles from the same place funnily enough
@@scottyp1348 Turned out to be the switch for the roof blind. Cheap and easy to swap for a new one, rattle gone 👍 Quite common according to the parts department people.
The problem is not the three bolts, but the ridiculous amount of money they charge to get them replaced. The same ridiculous price as on every other Land Rover repair.
So buy this car, especially the older 2.2l Diesel last longer than the newer Ingenium, but drive it only under warranty. As soon as the warranty expires, sell this car. People have repair costs all the way from 3000 for a simple fuel pump to 14000 for gear boxes or engine failures. A lot of cars get stolen or crashed to get insurance before a repair is neccessary. No one, that owned a LandRover, will ever buy a LandRover again, if he experienced the ridiculous repair costs. That's why LandRover now has problems selling any vehicles. Watch the channel 'LR time' to get insight.
Yup, no more JLR products for me 👎
Great video, just this morning I went to the dealership to buy this car, exactly the used 2.2 engine with automatic gearbox. I was told that they will be looking for an imported one from Germany, mileage around 120,000 kilometers with automatic transmission, what can you advise me? I clearly told him certified cars and regular maintenance, I intend to redo the distribution at least to rest assured, all around € 22,000 / 23,000. Thank you!
Glad you liked it. They are good cars if you buy wisely. The 2.2 engine with the 9 speed gearbox does work well. Depending on age the timing belt may need done. Advised every 7 years here in the UK. Check tyres and brakes too. They do last well but pricey when time to replace. Otherwise just enjoy the car.
Just wax oil the bolts : Job done !!!
Please help i want o buy a rang rover evoque 2.2 190hp 2016 what about reliability?
My experience is reliability is fine. The 2.2 engine seems to cause far fewer problems than the later 2.0 ingenium unit. Just check all the electrics work, then check them all again. Silly things like the rear view cameras can go wrong. Then just enjoy.
Switched off when saw you had 1 finger on the steering wheel. Sorry!
Fair enough
Keep looking at these, such a great looking Range Rover esp considering yours is 7 years old loos better then some new cars today. I own a BMW and have 26500 miles on the clock (2017 1 series) and had a sensor gone on the exhaust something to do with air pressure sensor and the clutch needed to be change (this all paid for out of my pocket) its probably the worst gearbox ever, but for a clutch to go like that is disgusting read others have had the same (been driving for 30+ yrs so yes I know how to drive lol) So I find all cars have some sort of issues , also owned a Merc with 33k and the timing chain stretched even though I serviced the car yearly.
I think with the Evoque you still get good (Monday) and bad (Friday) cars. Get a good one and you'll love it, a bad one will drive you insane!! IMO they still do look great though.
They are just crap crap crap. Never anywhere near Japanese durability! And I’m a patriot. Just no excuse for their level of failure vs the price !
I think the problem with JLR stuff is you still get a Monday and a Friday car. Get a good one and it's brilliant, get a duffer and it's a nightmare from day 1!! The Japanese stuff all just seem to work. Why can't JLR improve their QA dept to ensure it's all good?? In this day and age surely it can't be that hard?? After all they've done the hard bit - designed a great car 👌
Daily driver for 7 years,,,,,, 30k miles???? Not much driving,,, nope it dont have a full 4wheel drive system either,,, it uses haldex,,, no center diff
This clown knows virtually nothing about cars yet is doing a review on one of the best SUV's of all time. 'Dynamic mode which does nuff-ing.....it doesn't become dynamic it just remains as a Range Rover...' You plonker.... Dynamic mode sharpens throttle response, changes gears at high revs, and engages dampeners to help the car feel planted.....you just drive around at 40mph....try driving it at 60mph on tighter country roads.
Good stuff, do a review, tell everybody about it 👍
@@midlifemotors5050 I'd rather just enjoy my Evoque to be honest. I have the SD Lux 2013, 2.2L with 6 speed. Awesome car, gearbox is super, ride amazing, a beast on the motorway. The only downside is the old infotainment and MPG is awful.
@@andrewshepherd1579 Excellent. I do miss mine tbh but just offered too much $$ Think selling was the wrong decision, lesson learnt!! Keep enjoying 👍
@@midlifemotors5050 Wow after calling you a clown and a plonker you brushed it of
@@andrewshepherd1579 There are kits to upgrade the Info. centre you can even fit a 10.25' version.
👍👏👍
Many thanks, much appreciated.