My OBT is one of my favorites in my collection, its name is Tobasco, and mine is not chill at all 😆 He/She is finally a juvie and it is time for a rehouse...I have been putting it off for a few months cause I am nervous LOL!!! All the videos I have watched have scared me, thank you so much for this amazing video, you gave me confidence to rehouse my spicy little spider. MUCH LOVE FRIEND!!! 💕
Wow...hi, Brandi!!! I absolutely LOVE the name!!! I do hope that the rehouse goes well for you. Trust me, I totally get stressing about an upcoming rehouse; I've had some that I kept putting off. This might have been one of them, but it was because I really wanted it to go well so that folks could have more confidence when they rehouse theirs. Please let me know how it goes if you get the chance? Sending good vibes for a totally uneventful rehouse for Tabasco. :) Thank you so much!!!
@@TomsBigSpiders 😍 I am such a huge fan of yours!!!!!!! Thank you so much for your reply!!!!!! Made my month💞 I will be filming it soon!!!! You’re one of the best tarantula channels out there, hope I do you proud 😆🙌🏼 I’ll be sure to give you credit for why I stopped procrastinating 🤣
@@BrandiTV And double WOW...Brandi, I truly appreciate that! My channel is a bit obscure compared to some of the others, so this REALLY means a lot...I'm floored. :) I will keep a lookout for Tabasco's rehouse, and I'm sure that all will go well! Again, thank you so much!!!
Packing for post, rehousing and pairing for years never had any issue with them but every now and then they can bolt. That's not to say they wouldn't become defensive but much is how you handle the disturbance you cause them.
You are THE best Tom and let’s not forget the lovely Billie. You do so much to promote good husbandry with all your spiders and it’s fabulous to see your lovely new room. Long May you continue educating.
Wow. The difference between your videos and some other channels is astounding. You seem to have so much respect for your spiders, this is the first OBT video i’ve seen where they’re not attacking the brush and stridulating. I’m not a T keeper but the care you put in shows.
Hi, Victoria! That truly means a lot to me. I don't do this for money or entertainment purposes, and that fact often gets lost on those who are not in the hobby. THANK YOU.
I just got a juvenile OBT from a Repticon and it was in a container that had no height and the webbing was attached to the lid. The guy that sold it to me said it would be fine in that for a couple more molts and politely disagreed and explained why I would be rehousing it into a taller enclosure. The house actually went pretty good and the spider didn't threat pose me at all. It's made a beautiful burrow/web tunnels and there is a solid 2 inches between the lid and it's home! I went from no OWs to 3 with this one being my third and I love them to bits. Thank you for your videos. The rehouse technique with the bottles and cardboard gives me the confidence to not be nervous during rehouses.
Hey, Roxy! Sounds like a great call on your part...well done! I'm glad the rehousing went well. You just saved yourself and the spider a lot of stress. :) I'm so glad that this was helpful. :)
I've just rehoused my two OBT juvies. They are now in their forever homes and it all went very smoothly, to my great relief! Just a GBB Juvie and a T. stirmi to house when they arrive in the morning 🙂
I am a newer keeper & have 2 OBT: a sling & a juvie. I actually rehoused the juvie by picking up her webbing with her in it, moved it to a bigger enclosure, and pulled the web open with some feeding tongs to encourage her to move in. Took out the old web as soon as she moved out.. They don't seem any more defensive than my other spiders & are incredibly beautiful.
I've done the trick with moving the webbing before, and it can work well! Yeah, if you give them space, they are usually fine. Glad to hear that the rehouse went well!
I’ve been keeping tarantulas for over a year now, and it’s been a slow process of growing and learning how to work with them properly and safely…and I’m so excited to finally be getting my first two P. Murinus slings today 🖤 Did a re-listen to your podcast ep on them yesterday, and after raising Psalmo’s without issue I feel ready. Thank you for teaching us about these animals in a way that breaks down the stigmas against them.
This species has just moved from the list of 'Ts I want' to the list of 'Ts I need' . I loved the idea of using the cardboard to make the area you wanted her to go darker.
I love my OBT. She went from 1/2 inch to almost 3 inches in 8 months. I can't believe how fast she's grown. I wasn't ready. She's outgrown 3 enclosures and needs another rehouse.
Hi, Sam! I have one of the slowest growing OBTs ever. haha I was lucky, as I had gained plenty of experience by the time she needed her first rehousing. Is yours possibly a male? Good luck on the rehouse!
Mine also grew pretty fast compared to my other slings. I started her out in a 16oz and went straight to an adult enclosure. Less rehouse, less stress.
Thank you for saying all this. I was so scared to get one because of their reputation but now I have 3 (all different forms) and all are so chill. I do realize each one can be different but I've giving them alot of space to do their thing. Mine will all run to their burrows/houses when disturbed. I have not got one threat posture ever. I just love this species and I'm so happy I made the leap and got them.
Hello, Cherette! You're most welcome; thank YOU for being open minded and for listening! haha I have two other color forms myself, and so far, I've had zero issues. You just need to give them some room to do their thing. Thanks!!!
thanks for pointing me to C&M terrariums i have been looking for solutions like that for a while but couldnt find anything i tend to destroy the frame when i rip out the mesh just ordered some for the nano & mini, looking forward to their upcoming designs for the bigger ones susan seems to be a really nice person as well thats the kind of business i like to support
I picked up an OBT sling as my first old world tarantula, currently it's around 3/4". I 100% agree with what you are saying about their rep being partly due to the way they are kept or handled. A lot of the bite reports I read were from people handling the spider. Give them a way to feel safe and don't mess with them. When doing any kind of maintenance, always be aware of the spider's location, don't look away (or heaven forbid WALK away) from an open enclosure, and when rehousing have all tools and materials handy before beginning, and do it in a location that doesn't allow the spider to immediately be beyond your reach if it bolts.
Congrats on grabbing one, Brandon...you won't regret it. The OBT is easily one of my top 5 favorite species. Like you said, set up is important when you want to avoid the defensiveness!
I love your attitude toward these wonderful creatures. Dave's beastie's has the same attitude. Thank you. Gentleness and patient's is required I believe.
Hi Tom, I brought an OBT last week. My first old world. She is around 2.5 inches. I put her straight into a 12x12x12 exo terra. She has a skull hide and lots of anchor points for webbing. She has already webbed her hide quite a lot and has started webbing the rest of the enclosure. She seems happy enough. Like you say doesn't like the light though. I'm sure if you give them plenty of places to retreat, and are aware of their capabilities and respect them there shouldn't be too many issues. Thanks for another great video!! Keep them coming! 🤘
That was a smooth rehouse. I have had anout 3 people say they wa t to get rid of their OBTs, and i get the feeling that no one that says that ever means it cause i will always answer 'if you are sure i will take her off your hands' and then never see them again.as much as people demonize them im pretty sure the ones that keep them actually treasure these amazing arachnids.
You're just lucky with OBT. I've seen so many in *immaculate* setups that were just anger made flesh. The speed that these can shoot up a pair of 9+ inch tongs in unreal, a lot of OBT owners refer to their movement as teleporting. Still as calm as yours is, I'm glad you're still urging caution, if you get a wet bite from one of these, you'll never forget it for the rest of your life.
Hello, Steve! Sure, the potential is there, and sure...there are some high strung specimens. However, if you read the comments, it's not just me being lucky. There are MANY other folks who report the same. And I currently have 9 of them and have had no trouble with any of them. They can definitely be a handful, but I think that a lot of the over the top demonization of them is getting ridiculous. Thanks for chiming in!
Incredible how calm she was during the rehouse. The technique really has a huge impact on how rehousings go, but with the calmer species you usually don't notice it. Great showcase!
Hey, Tuts! Billie and I were both REALLY hoping that it would go smoothly so that we could show that not all OBT rehousings have to be crazy. Thank you!
That's awesome! Yeah, just give them some room. You can also reduce rehousings by putting a juvenile in the adult enclosure (with lots of cover and web anchors).
Excellent video as always. I love the respect you show for the spiders, and I always learn something while watching. I've gained a lot of confidence over the last couple of years watching your vids and using the techniques I see you using.
I just got 6 slings: 1 T. Vagans, 2 C. Darlingi, 2 O. sp. North Cebu (large (coz there is a dwarf tagged with sp. South Cebu)), and 1 OBT. All are under 1.5 inches. Of all 5 old world Ts I got, the OBT was the most easiest one to house. From the shipping vial it teleported straight under the moss. No threats and no other bolts. The other 4 old worlds were either bolty little wannabe escape artists or they attack the paint brush and stubbornly stayed in their shipping vials. I can't wait to see them all grow up. Edit: i am more scared of my wannabe arboreal c. Darlingi even if it dug a nice den at the corner of it's enclosure. Lol. Idk why it wants to be an arboreal when the others already dug their own abyss holes.
Hello, Kei! congrats on your new slings! So glad to hear that you had a good experience with your OBT. You'll have a blast watching them all grow up. :) And I have a C. darlingi that has a burrow but just sits calmly on the surface at all times. Weird little girl...haha
My OBT is honestly pretty chill so far. Large Juvie that I got as a rescue along with 2 other OW's and all 3 haven't given me a single threat posture yet.
From the C. Darlingi to this OBT, he gets to keep all the calm ones and we get the devil incarnates. Tom, you're missing out on all the suspense feeding and rehousing sessions we get to enjoy! LOL! Kidding aside, I admire how you really get to calmly work with them while getting little to none of their feisty attitude.
My OBT was my first old world, and I just love it! When I rehoused it last, it tried to do a runner, but once it settled in, it's been happily burrowed for months! I get crazy excited when I catch a glimpse of a leg or butt going back into its hidey-hole!
Hi, Alice! It was the same with me. When I was first researching them, all I found was the disaster videos. Sadly, there are still folks out there who do this stuff, and it really irritates me. Dear God, Jungle Bob...what a dingus. hahaha
I miss my recently past MM OBT but I got 2 sling replacements since I want to keep an OBT in my collection. Was my first OW. Semi Arboreal, now all I could think of when you said that was GBB. Both OBT and GBB are up there on my fav owned list. Great share as per the norm Tom. Keep being a great treasure to the hobby as you love being!
I learned the majority of my rehousing techniques from watching Tom's videos, the only thing I do different is the use of long plastic zip ties to coax tarantulas in and out of catch cups. They flex very easily and can be used to pressure the tarantula without poking at it. Also, P murinus is one of my favorite species, and one of the most misunderstood in the hobby.
I got an OBT sling as one of my first Tarantulas, but I did a lot of research and watched UA-cam videos for months before I brought any spiders home. My boy, Orange Julius, went from a one-inch sling to mature male in only 6 months. He has had his hooks for over 9 months, and although he has only eaten a few times since he reached maturity, he is still alive. I love him very much and he has been a very good spider. I have only seen him in a threat posture once, and that was because a cricket startled him. As soon as he realized it was dinner, that was the end of the cricket. I am so happy you made this video. OBTs are awesome in every way. I appreciate your calm approach and I try to behave in the same manner (with varying degrees of success.) Thank you for everything you for this hobby.
Love the name Orange Julius! hahaha It's funny how many spiders I've had over the years threat posture crickets! haha So glad to hear that your guy is still doing well. It seems that the males grow much more quickly than the females. Thank you so much!
@@TomsBigSpiders lol. Glad you like the name. Orange Julius was originally named Julia, after actress, Julia Roberts- beautiful, red hair, long legs, bad reputation. The name evolved from there after he got his hooks.
Mine is as docile as a new born puppy at this point in time. Got my first threat posture at about 1/4" , and has been a sweetheart since it hit 1" . Got it about 1 year ago and it is now 3" .
By far my favorite species. I have 2 P. Murinus. One is very calm even during rehousing. The other one though, just opening the door of the room, she's full on defense mode, threat pose, tapping. Very bolty too. I keep them in an arboreal setup but i added more substrate for them to dig. I overflow their water dish once a month. My enclosures are a bit bigger than the need so i dont have to rehouse them too often. They grow kinda fast . 3/4"sling to 2.5" in a year.. their personnality change with each molt. Love the orange baboon tarantula "obt"
Hey, Paul! They are such awesome spiders. This one was such a slow grower, but I'm raising up some NCFs now that are growing much more quickly. Thanks for chiming in!
Nice rehouse! I love my OBT, she's actually fairly chilled out. They get unnecessary bad press, from my experience. Like you say, I think its largely the set up that dictates their behaviour 👌🏼
This is exactly like blood or short tailed pythons. They had a reputation for being bitey defensive and mean snakes when in reality people were keeping them incorrectly and they responded negatively to that giving them a bad reputation. Very nice video.
i have 10 old worlds i honestly give them all the same respect i usually have pretty calm re-housing's when i get a threat posture i will set the cup in the encloser and set the lid on if i can and come back in a min or two and very calmly coax them in usually works pretty well for me i feel really guilty when i stress them out too so i try and have the most chill rehousing i can even if it takes a half hour. thank you tom your videos are so great i did a ton of ow rehousing the other night while binge watching your videos lol Tom Moran is the Mr.Miyagi of chill rehousing's !
I treat all of my new world and old world species the same way as well. Some people don't get it, but I'd rather always be practicing good technique. Haha Thank you so much, Alison!
My OBT was my second tarantula because I apparently like challenges 😂 Mine is actually really chill and has never given me a threat pose. I have her in a tupperware container with about 7 inches of substrate and she's chosen to dig deep and just web up inside it. I only see her out occasionally and that's just her front half. Definitely going to be getting her an enclosure like this one soon so hopefully I'll see her more often.
I've just had to learn rather quickly from your video as I've very recently just been gifted an OBT as a suprise gift. I've only been in the hobby about 2 months with my lasiodora parahybana who thankfully seems to have an unusually calm nature before I was gifted the OBT. My dad said to me "you know how you keep snakes and spiders and all those creepy things? well I got you another one" and then produces this glass enclosure covered with web. I go to take a look and see this bright orange abdomen sticking out of a burrow and I almost froze as I knew exactly what it was but apparently my dad didn't and somehow the pet shop let him buy it without even checking if he knows the dangers old worlds can be. Seems to have been chosen on the principle of orange one looks the coolest so I'll buy that one. Thanks to your video I'm no longer terrified of when I eventually have to re house it, just regular scared instead. At least that's an improvement I guess.
Ha! That's so awesome! Yeah, most of the people in the pet stores have no idea about tarantulas. I've seen OBTs offered with signs that say, "Great pet!" and "Docile" which could lead to folks trying to handle them. I just posted a video last week where I rehoused 4 of them to show that they aren't that bad. Congrats on getting one!
Excellent rehouse as always! These are the ones who initially sparked my interest in the hobby and now I have 5 P. murinus slings (2 OBTs, 2 DCF kigomas, and 1 DCF mikumi). One of my kigoma slings wouldn’t cooperate when I unpacked it so I left the vial in the deli cup and it ended up webbing it up and making it it’s den which made it even more complicated. Really looking forward to watching them grow into big beautiful spiders.
@@TomsBigSpiders I’ve been looking for NCF since you mentioned them in your podcast but haven’t seen any available and I haven’t heard of the other one. I’ll have to keep an eye out for those as well
Love this! I've been watching so many OBT videos and there are more demonizing them than appreciating them. The videos of people purposely teasing their T's are sad. But absolutely love your take and notes on the species
Just got my first T, now I want 100! I was looking for a jumper to begin with but in winter in NY a local breeder had a curly juvenile for sale. I am HOOKED! I can't wait to graduate to old world but know enough to go slow. Definitely want to do it right!
That's awesome! Yeah, this hobby is SUPER addictive. I remember telling my wife that I would probably have a couple dozen some day (I now have over 200). Welcome to the hobby!
Hi Tom! I noted if not in this video but maybe a few earlier, that you were moaning about the lack of Crystal clear containers. Check out your local Wally World and look for the new Rubbermaid containers called Brilliant. They lock solid on the sides and it's not too bad with height to ground to width ratios, especially with slings, juveniles, and sub-adults. It's a thick plastic but I have used both a drill or a soddering gun to make holes for how I want the ventilation to be. They also stack well. Other sizes are also available through Amazon. I like the fact that they are extremely sturdy and Crystal clear they almost look like glass. I don't know it you knew about them but thought I'd mention them to you about them. Also, thank you for recommending Steve with Arachnoiden. I bought two T's from him and he was extremely helpful with my order. Considering the time he and I spent emailing back and forth was actually funny since his website was just upgraded and I was having difficulty ordering. I'd find something that didn't work, he'd find out what wasn't working on his end, get it fixed then I'd find another problem. Two day later between him and me it finally worked! He was a great guy to work with and my two new T's will be on their way to me and arrive on Thursday the 18th. Any whoo, I hope you check out those containers and like them. They are around $8 a piece on average. Again thanks for the reference to Steve.
Hi, Linda! I honestly don't mind the milky ones as well, but every time I post a video featuring one, someone comes on and complains about it. I try to head that off! haha And I will absolutely check those out. Thank you for the heads up! And I'm so glad that you had a good experience with Steve. I've ordered from him a couple of times, and it went great both times. Thanks so much!
I OPTED TO A OBT FOR MY FIRST SPIDER, I GOT IT AS A SLING ABOUT 1/4 INCH LONG NOW IT IS AROUND 3 OR 4 INCHS LONG AND I LOVE IT, NOW MINE STAYS IN IT'S SKULL AND I NEVER SEEN IT OUT ,WHEN IT'S HUNGRY IT LAYS IT'S LEGS OUT THE EYE SOCKET I USE DUBIA ROACHES , AND IT LOVES THEM IT TAKES THE ROACH EVERY TIME ,I HAD IT ABOUT A YEAR NOW LOVE MY OBT!
Great rehousing and nice enclosure! This reminds me that i have to rehouse one of my Pterinochilus kigoma females. Ohh dear! She wont be happy, she gets quite easy irritated! I have noticed that P murinus kigoma grows much slower than other colormorphs of P murinus i have kept. The OBT have grown pretty quick in general, and i have had a bunch over the years. Very strange indeed! Yes, if given deep sub and lots of hidingplaces and debries, and a little taller cage their should be no problems with eigher attitudes or "ripping off their home" Sure, they are general defenssive but in such a cage they rather retreats. Another tip i can give with this speicies is to keep them in "frontopend" terrariums and place most of the substrate and decore back in the terrarium, because uf the tarantula is a especially heavy webbing creature, it doesnt matter if it weebs part of its home onto the "roof" of the tank, cos u open it in the front. The drawback is that it is harder to work in a front open enclosure. But your terrarium is nice cos you can open it from the top too
Hey, bud! Man, this OBT was one of my slower growing tarantulas. It took quite a while for her to even hit 2". The NCFs I'm raising are growing much more quickly, though. And great idea about the front opening. This enclosure has both front and top and plenty of depth, so hopefully I'll be all set with her. Thanks again!
Your videos as well as Dave over at Dave's Little Beasties has completely changed my perspective on OBTs and keeping them. Obviously healthy respect is still required for them as a species, but that's just as true for Pokies and I may have to reconsider adding an OBT to my collection at some point.
I do an OBT care video, less than 24 hours later so do you. I watch it just to check that mine is set up correctly 😂. Only thing I did different was provide a deep burrow and substrate. Great video Tom
As soon as I'm done responding to comments, I'll go check yours out! I tried to mention many times in the video that you should also give them room to dig. I didn't give this one as much substrate because she has never really don't much digging.
@@TomsBigSpiders if you get around to watching my video it will make my day sir! Honestly your advice and level headed approach to stuff got me into inverts
Love all the terrariums and enclosures in the background. So nice and clean! Also that enclosure look super cool. So many webbing points, this enclosure gonna look soo cool all webbed out!
very beautiful. I love OBT's and miss mine very much. But like you Tom i kept mine like you do and never had any trouble out of her. Love those tops will for sure be checking into those. thanks Tom.
Hey, Tim! I IMMEDIATELY thought of you when I was putting this together. Again, so sorry to hear that. And I'm loving the tops. They cost some money, but they are just so convenient and they fit better than the originals. I'll be picking up more for sure. Hope all is well, bud!
Keep up the work! I just recently got a handfull of dcfs after looking for 9 months can't wait to see them grow.... My obt has not webbed much but she has a very intricate tunnel system in her substrate
That was definitely a sane re-housing. I share your "sediments" about the OBT's environment is contusive to their attitude. I've witnessed many an OBT that is being poked, prodded, managed and spooked by keepers during the rehousing process. I'd have an attitude as well if I was an OBT.... "No Respect"... I've also witnessed keepers holding their 3-4" OBT's in 4" containers. I call those keepers "Slum Lords"... if I was an OBT in that environment I'd bolt as soon as the lid came off and there was a chance of escape! I believe that a lot of OBT keepers are just "Reaping what the sow".... On another note, I just wanted to point out that I've seen a few of your "catch bottle" containers and I think it's a brilliant idea. To take it to the next level, I was thinking for example that for OBT's you should use a "Simply Orange" bottle, for green T's, use the "Simply Lime" bottle and for yellow T's .... well...😁😁
Thank you so much! I feel like the OBTs have been unjustly villianized over the years, and much of their bad reputations come from improper setups and keepers who are scared of them. I agree with you completely! HAHAHAHA That's actually a hysterical idea!!! Haha Thanks!
Unfortunately, I know of some tarantula youtubers with pretty prolific followings who rile their OBTs up for views (i won't name names) but I really appreciate this video!! They should be cared for with caution like any old world species, but I really don't think they deserve the bad reputation
Oh, and I will be getting one of this next month or so along with a Lasiodora parahybana. This will complete my collection of 10 tarantulas! After that I will have to see what ones end up as males so I can have more room when I send them off for breeding.
I want an OBT now. I appreciate your neutral standing on these guys. I'm one of the types that was initially intimidated of this species, but this might be a choice of NW once I get confident in my husbandry. Great informative rehousing too and patience you give to your OBT.
I just wanted to present a video that didn't depict them as the scary monsters many make them out to be. Sure, they can be defensive...I'm not disputing that. But, if given room and if handled with respect, they can also be quite manageable. Thanks for chiming in!
Bigger is better! Got my AF in a Theraphosha sized enclosure and she's a dream. Still a bit defensive of her hides but the ease of maintenance from the excess space is great. I always recommend it to people when I can for this species.
thanks for sharing that! my obt was defensive AF when i got her but it was like you said the enclosure was just too small for her. since she is in a larger one shes an angel! if i have to do some cleaning up or refill the waterdish she just goes back in her cave and gets out as soon as i am done.
Hello, M.K.! I'm glad to hear that you experienced the same thing. I've spoken to quite a few people who have them and have given them plenty of room, and they are just fine. Thanks for chiming in!
Literally bought my first 2cm sling 2 days ago. Was putting it off for the best part of a year because of the fear mongering videos. Yes it was faster than most of my t's but more than manageable. Just looking forward to that orange to come through now 😀 great content as always Tom!
Dude you are gifted with these tarantulas. It's a definite connection. This channel is quickly becoming my favorite out of them all. As a noob tarantula keeper these vids are invaluable to me. Thank you and Billie for this.
Hey, August Dog! First off, my apologize for the late reply. Thank you so much! I quite comfortable around them, and I like to think that helps. Thank YOU for watching!
Aw man I miss my OBT. I was hoping for a big beautiful orange female spider but ended up with a mature male that hooked out at 1.5 inches and died within a year. Maybe someday I’ll get my big orange sassy girl.
Both of my OBT (grown on sling and juvie) have a set up which allows them to bury or web. Stunning spiders, both skittish rather than aggressive. I always treat them with the greatest respect and until now never had any trouble 🤷♀️
Ah finally someone is talking about why most people's obt are very aggressive. I've seen a lot of people felt proud when they shared their obt in a threat posture like "Look it's so aggressive. So cool". But just like you said, they were housed in inadequate enclosures where their web got ripped off every time the lid is opened.
Thank you! Another brilliant video. 🙂 My husband and I have been thoroughly enjoying your UA-cam channel and podcasts. I’ve been wanting to get an OBT and after viewing this my husband said, “why don’t you get one of those, they are beautiful.” ☺️
What a great video! I try never to use the word "aggressive" because I don't believe that tarantulas are. Defensive, yes some of them. It's really nice to see a video showing patience ending in a good rehouse unlike many other channels. She is a stunning girl by the way!
Hiya, Toni! I never use the word "aggressive" either. I hate when it's used to describe scared spiders that are trying to defend themselves. Thank you so much!
Tom thanks for the positive demo on an appropiate rehouse . Your point was well taken on giving them a little more verticle space and not tearing the top off thier "house" everytime we open the enclosure. Also wanted to say thanks. your Videos Do inspire , After re-watching your feeding video VII from Sept. of last year and a few others I picked up a couple Phormictopus Auratus slings from a local show this past week end. I'm pretty stoked. These are great looking Ts Cheers, D.
I’ve just bought one of these a juvenile, love the way you both deal with thing, not over dramatic and shouting in the video, you both are amazing great example how to be calm.
Thank you so much for this awesome video. I was just trying to decide if I should get this species. I wasn't particularly afraid of them but still wanted to make sure that this species is right for me. But now I feel like I could make an informed decision and pick up a sling at the expo this weekend. Thank you! 🕷️
Hello, and so sorry for the late reply! I think that, if kept correctly, they are no different than any other old world species. I currently have 7, and if given the room, they would rather bolt to their burrows. I think that the reputation came from folks keeping them incorrectly. I'm glad that this was helpful!
As usual another educational and professional video. As far as T's you're my go to! I don't have an OBT or an H. mac (my fav) as yet, mainly because of the reputation, however, now I have a couple of pokies, I'm finding like you have said, if the T isn't stressed it's more likely to be compliant. 🤞🏻Thanks for sharing your knowledge. 😊
Hi, Gina! Thank you so much! Yeah, the pokies are other spiders that get a bum rap because of the potential for issues. Drives me nuts. I have two H. macs as well, and they've been quite well behaved.
Ehhh...I currently have 6, and they are rather shy. I think that the whole "demon spider" thing is overblown or created by folks who don't keep them correctly.
I have a few OBTs and all the hype has me psyched out more so than my pokies. Your videos and podcasts definitely calm me down a bit lol. I'll say tho... the largest one I have is definitely my boltiest T. Everytime we rehouse, it ends up on the floor running around like a mad woman 😂 1x 4" OBT 2x 2" RCF 2x 1" DCF Kigoma 1x .75" DCF Mikumi NP
I’m new to the hobby but I really appreciate your content and all your videos. Not ready for old worlds yet but my GBB, A seemani and A chalcodes are really amazing and fun to keep. I ordered the keeper cards so I’m fully an arachnerd! Lol. Thanks and keep up the great vids!
Hello, Philip! Thank you so much! And I totally understand; there is never any rush. And, for some people, the risk isn't worth it. And that's awesome on the Keeper Cards! Mine UA-cam "Legends" cards should be coming very soon! haha
Just this last Monday I got my very first T's (3) (after waiting for about 3 years ) All good beginner spiders, not an OBT, but who knows,, maybe in the future! I really like your videos and have watched a lot of them. Thank you for the excellent content.
These are my absolute favorite. Just recieved two .25 inch slings. Which means, I've now owned nine of these guys. My attempt with two H. maculata slings in 2012, of the same size, failed and its stuck in my mind like a sliver. So, I'm checking pulses thrice a day. But, I'm far more experienced with the murinus. Confident it's just jitters. D.M.
Great video Tom, great rehouse and a beautiful species. I have a p. murinus and it's true for what you said Tom if you treat them right you have a happier spider.
I agree with you Tom, most people on youtube and facebook, antagonize OBTs too much. I’ve seen some intentionally disturb them to show “aggression”. 🤦🏻
some people love to piss off their p murinus for views and likes. it just leads to misconceptions and hysteria. now there's people that are afraid of these animals because of some goofs on social media.
@@lumiere2713 pretty much all of them do. i've seen dark den keep these african tarantulas in little tiny containers with no hide or waterdish, then he's like wow it's so angry lol!
My OBT is one of my favorites in my collection, its name is Tobasco, and mine is not chill at all 😆 He/She is finally a juvie and it is time for a rehouse...I have been putting it off for a few months cause I am nervous LOL!!! All the videos I have watched have scared me, thank you so much for this amazing video, you gave me confidence to rehouse my spicy little spider. MUCH LOVE FRIEND!!! 💕
Fancy seeing you here, Brandi! 👀 Love you!
Wow...hi, Brandi!!! I absolutely LOVE the name!!! I do hope that the rehouse goes well for you. Trust me, I totally get stressing about an upcoming rehouse; I've had some that I kept putting off. This might have been one of them, but it was because I really wanted it to go well so that folks could have more confidence when they rehouse theirs. Please let me know how it goes if you get the chance? Sending good vibes for a totally uneventful rehouse for Tabasco. :) Thank you so much!!!
@@TomsBigSpiders 😍 I am such a huge fan of yours!!!!!!! Thank you so much for your reply!!!!!! Made my month💞 I will be filming it soon!!!! You’re one of the best tarantula channels out there, hope I do you proud 😆🙌🏼 I’ll be sure to give you credit for why I stopped procrastinating 🤣
@@kaitlynmarie1785 😭🙌🏼 LOVE YOU RIGHT BACK MY AMAZING FRIEND!!!! Isn’t this the best channel?
@@BrandiTV And double WOW...Brandi, I truly appreciate that! My channel is a bit obscure compared to some of the others, so this REALLY means a lot...I'm floored. :) I will keep a lookout for Tabasco's rehouse, and I'm sure that all will go well! Again, thank you so much!!!
Finally a proper OBT rehousing without any of the fear mongering. I've been looking forward to this video since listening to your podcast.
YES! thank you
Thanks, Jason! That's EXACTLY what we were going for. :)
This ^
Packing for post, rehousing and pairing for years never had any issue with them but every now and then they can bolt.
That's not to say they wouldn't become defensive but much is how you handle the disturbance you cause them.
You are THE best Tom and let’s not forget the lovely Billie. You do so much to promote good husbandry with all your spiders and it’s fabulous to see your lovely new room. Long May you continue educating.
Awwwww...thank you, Bobbi! I just try to present the facts. And thanks so much! I'm LOVING the new room.
Wow. The difference between your videos and some other channels is astounding. You seem to have so much respect for your spiders, this is the first OBT video i’ve seen where they’re not attacking the brush and stridulating. I’m not a T keeper but the care you put in shows.
Hi, Victoria! That truly means a lot to me. I don't do this for money or entertainment purposes, and that fact often gets lost on those who are not in the hobby. THANK YOU.
I just got a juvenile OBT from a Repticon and it was in a container that had no height and the webbing was attached to the lid. The guy that sold it to me said it would be fine in that for a couple more molts and politely disagreed and explained why I would be rehousing it into a taller enclosure. The house actually went pretty good and the spider didn't threat pose me at all. It's made a beautiful burrow/web tunnels and there is a solid 2 inches between the lid and it's home! I went from no OWs to 3 with this one being my third and I love them to bits. Thank you for your videos. The rehouse technique with the bottles and cardboard gives me the confidence to not be nervous during rehouses.
Hey, Roxy! Sounds like a great call on your part...well done! I'm glad the rehousing went well. You just saved yourself and the spider a lot of stress. :) I'm so glad that this was helpful. :)
I've just rehoused my two OBT juvies. They are now in their forever homes and it all went very smoothly, to my great relief! Just a GBB Juvie and a T. stirmi to house when they arrive in the morning 🙂
Hello, Simon! I'm so glad to hear that it went well...that's great! Good luck on the other rehousings!
I am a newer keeper & have 2 OBT: a sling & a juvie. I actually rehoused the juvie by picking up her webbing with her in it, moved it to a bigger enclosure, and pulled the web open with some feeding tongs to encourage her to move in. Took out the old web as soon as she moved out.. They don't seem any more defensive than my other spiders & are incredibly beautiful.
I've done the trick with moving the webbing before, and it can work well! Yeah, if you give them space, they are usually fine. Glad to hear that the rehouse went well!
I’ve been keeping tarantulas for over a year now, and it’s been a slow process of growing and learning how to work with them properly and safely…and I’m so excited to finally be getting my first two P. Murinus slings today 🖤 Did a re-listen to your podcast ep on them yesterday, and after raising Psalmo’s without issue I feel ready.
Thank you for teaching us about these animals in a way that breaks down the stigmas against them.
Hi, Amy! Congrats on your new P. murinus; I'm sure that you'll love them! And I'm sure that you'll do just fine. :)
This species has just moved from the list of 'Ts I want' to the list of 'Ts I need' . I loved the idea of using the cardboard to make the area you wanted her to go darker.
That's awesome, Haze! :)
I love my OBT. She went from 1/2 inch to almost 3 inches in 8 months. I can't believe how fast she's grown. I wasn't ready. She's outgrown 3 enclosures and needs another rehouse.
Hi, Sam! I have one of the slowest growing OBTs ever. haha I was lucky, as I had gained plenty of experience by the time she needed her first rehousing. Is yours possibly a male? Good luck on the rehouse!
Mine also grew pretty fast compared to my other slings. I started her out in a 16oz and went straight to an adult enclosure. Less rehouse, less stress.
Thank you for saying all this. I was so scared to get one because of their reputation but now I have 3 (all different forms) and all are so chill. I do realize each one can be different but I've giving them alot of space to do their thing. Mine will all run to their burrows/houses when disturbed. I have not got one threat posture ever. I just love this species and I'm so happy I made the leap and got them.
Hello, Cherette! You're most welcome; thank YOU for being open minded and for listening! haha I have two other color forms myself, and so far, I've had zero issues. You just need to give them some room to do their thing. Thanks!!!
@@TomsBigSpiders exactly. I want people to not be afraid cautious. I wish I didn't wait so long for my first lol.
Just watching this to build more confidence before I rehouse my OBT. I've never rehoused an old world up to this point.
Hello, Max! That's awesome! I hope that your rehousing is uneventful!
thanks for pointing me to C&M terrariums
i have been looking for solutions like that for a while but couldnt find anything
i tend to destroy the frame when i rip out the mesh
just ordered some for the nano & mini, looking forward to their upcoming designs for the bigger ones
susan seems to be a really nice person as well
thats the kind of business i like to support
That's awesome! Yeah, she is super nice, and this was a great idea. These are just so convenient!
I picked up an OBT sling as my first old world tarantula, currently it's around 3/4". I 100% agree with what you are saying about their rep being partly due to the way they are kept or handled. A lot of the bite reports I read were from people handling the spider.
Give them a way to feel safe and don't mess with them. When doing any kind of maintenance, always be aware of the spider's location, don't look away (or heaven forbid WALK away) from an open enclosure, and when rehousing have all tools and materials handy before beginning, and do it in a location that doesn't allow the spider to immediately be beyond your reach if it bolts.
Congrats on grabbing one, Brandon...you won't regret it. The OBT is easily one of my top 5 favorite species. Like you said, set up is important when you want to avoid the defensiveness!
I love your attitude toward these wonderful creatures. Dave's beastie's has the same attitude. Thank you. Gentleness and patient's is required I believe.
Thank you so much, Dovine!
Hi Tom, I brought an OBT last week. My first old world. She is around 2.5 inches. I put her straight into a 12x12x12 exo terra. She has a skull hide and lots of anchor points for webbing. She has already webbed her hide quite a lot and has started webbing the rest of the enclosure. She seems happy enough. Like you say doesn't like the light though. I'm sure if you give them plenty of places to retreat, and are aware of their capabilities and respect them there shouldn't be too many issues. Thanks for another great video!! Keep them coming! 🤘
Congrats on getting your first, Lee. The setups sounds great, so I don't anticipate that you will have any issues with her. :) Thanks!
"I just don't want this to be part of the decorum" So understanding of your spider! That's great!
Hahaha Thanks!
That was a smooth rehouse. I have had anout 3 people say they wa t to get rid of their OBTs, and i get the feeling that no one that says that ever means it cause i will always answer 'if you are sure i will take her off your hands' and then never see them again.as much as people demonize them im pretty sure the ones that keep them actually treasure these amazing arachnids.
Thank you so much! Hahahaha That's a very good point!
You're just lucky with OBT.
I've seen so many in *immaculate* setups that were just anger made flesh.
The speed that these can shoot up a pair of 9+ inch tongs in unreal, a lot of OBT owners refer to their movement as teleporting.
Still as calm as yours is, I'm glad you're still urging caution, if you get a wet bite from one of these, you'll never forget it for the rest of your life.
Hello, Steve! Sure, the potential is there, and sure...there are some high strung specimens. However, if you read the comments, it's not just me being lucky. There are MANY other folks who report the same. And I currently have 9 of them and have had no trouble with any of them. They can definitely be a handful, but I think that a lot of the over the top demonization of them is getting ridiculous. Thanks for chiming in!
Well to be fair, I would not put tongs close to an obt.
Incredible how calm she was during the rehouse. The technique really has a huge impact on how rehousings go, but with the calmer species you usually don't notice it. Great showcase!
Hey, Tuts! Billie and I were both REALLY hoping that it would go smoothly so that we could show that not all OBT rehousings have to be crazy. Thank you!
You may have just convinced me to get a OBT thinking about how the housing has an affect on the behavior
That's awesome! Yeah, just give them some room. You can also reduce rehousings by putting a juvenile in the adult enclosure (with lots of cover and web anchors).
Excellent video as always. I love the respect you show for the spiders, and I always learn something while watching. I've gained a lot of confidence over the last couple of years watching your vids and using the techniques I see you using.
Thank you so much, Luke! I really appreciate that. I'm so glad that you find this stuff helpful!
I just got 6 slings: 1 T. Vagans, 2 C. Darlingi, 2 O. sp. North Cebu (large (coz there is a dwarf tagged with sp. South Cebu)), and 1 OBT. All are under 1.5 inches.
Of all 5 old world Ts I got, the OBT was the most easiest one to house. From the shipping vial it teleported straight under the moss. No threats and no other bolts.
The other 4 old worlds were either bolty little wannabe escape artists or they attack the paint brush and stubbornly stayed in their shipping vials.
I can't wait to see them all grow up.
Edit: i am more scared of my wannabe arboreal c. Darlingi even if it dug a nice den at the corner of it's enclosure. Lol. Idk why it wants to be an arboreal when the others already dug their own abyss holes.
Hello, Kei! congrats on your new slings! So glad to hear that you had a good experience with your OBT. You'll have a blast watching them all grow up. :) And I have a C. darlingi that has a burrow but just sits calmly on the surface at all times. Weird little girl...haha
My OBT is honestly pretty chill so far. Large Juvie that I got as a rescue along with 2 other OW's and all 3 haven't given me a single threat posture yet.
That's awesome! Mine are all pretty laid back. I think that the trick is to give them some space.
From the C. Darlingi to this OBT, he gets to keep all the calm ones and we get the devil incarnates. Tom, you're missing out on all the suspense feeding and rehousing sessions we get to enjoy! LOL! Kidding aside, I admire how you really get to calmly work with them while getting little to none of their feisty attitude.
Hahahaha I just totally luck out, Justin! I really am missing out, aren't I? lol
This will 100% be my first old world tarantula. They look beautiful and their reputation makes them cooler
They are wonderful spiders although, quite frankly, I'm sick of the bad rep they get.
My OBT was my first old world, and I just love it! When I rehoused it last, it tried to do a runner, but once it settled in, it's been happily burrowed for months! I get crazy excited when I catch a glimpse of a leg or butt going back into its hidey-hole!
Hi, Bobbi! Yeah, I think that quite a few people have shy ones like ours. :) I haven't seen this girl since I rehoused her.
When I first started looking for tarantula videos on UA-cam all I could find were OBT disaster unboxings, and the Jungle Bob video
Hi, Alice! It was the same with me. When I was first researching them, all I found was the disaster videos. Sadly, there are still folks out there who do this stuff, and it really irritates me. Dear God, Jungle Bob...what a dingus. hahaha
My female OBT Cinder just hides in her deep burrow nearly almost all the time, I barely see her but she's calm because of it.
LOVE the name! And that's awesome!
I'm glad I do not have any problem rehousing my Ts. Seems like other people have way more trouble than I do. It's really simple and straightforward.
Hey, John! I've never had any issues myself. You stay calm and keep the spider calm and they're easy. :)
Great video Tom! Your OBT is so gorgeous! Thanks for the feature on our Mini lid :)
Thank YOU so much. Those covers are amazing!
I miss my recently past MM OBT but I got 2 sling replacements since I want to keep an OBT in my collection. Was my first OW. Semi Arboreal, now all I could think of when you said that was GBB. Both OBT and GBB are up there on my fav owned list. Great share as per the norm Tom. Keep being a great treasure to the hobby as you love being!
Awwww...sorry to hear about your male. :( And I set mine up exactly the same...they are very similar in that way. Thank you so much!!!
Stunning ....can't have enough of this species in our collection !
I agree completely!
I learned the majority of my rehousing techniques from watching Tom's videos, the only thing I do different is the use of long plastic zip ties to coax tarantulas in and out of catch cups. They flex very easily and can be used to pressure the tarantula without poking at it. Also, P murinus is one of my favorite species, and one of the most misunderstood in the hobby.
Thanks so much for the very kind words, Michael! And that's a great tip!
You got it right enough for me. I'm not gonna torture you with trying to pronounce it completely correct. Thank you, Sir and keep up the great work!
UGHHHHHH...How do you pronounce it? I really do want to get it correct! Thank YOU so much for your support!
I got an OBT sling as one of my first Tarantulas, but I did a lot of research and watched UA-cam videos for months before I brought any spiders home. My boy, Orange Julius, went from a one-inch sling to mature male in only 6 months. He has had his hooks for over 9 months, and although he has only eaten a few times since he reached maturity, he is still alive. I love him very much and he has been a very good spider. I have only seen him in a threat posture once, and that was because a cricket startled him. As soon as he realized it was dinner, that was the end of the cricket. I am so happy you made this video. OBTs are awesome in every way. I appreciate your calm approach and I try to behave in the same manner (with varying degrees of success.) Thank you for everything you for this hobby.
Love the name Orange Julius! hahaha It's funny how many spiders I've had over the years threat posture crickets! haha So glad to hear that your guy is still doing well. It seems that the males grow much more quickly than the females. Thank you so much!
@@TomsBigSpiders lol. Glad you like the name. Orange Julius was originally named Julia, after actress, Julia Roberts- beautiful, red hair, long legs, bad reputation. The name evolved from there after he got his hooks.
Mine is as docile as a new born puppy at this point in time. Got my first threat posture at about 1/4" , and has been a sweetheart since it hit 1" . Got it about 1 year ago and it is now 3" .
Hey, Joe! Awwww...nothing cuter than a tiny sling threat posturing! :)
By far my favorite species. I have 2 P. Murinus. One is very calm even during rehousing. The other one though, just opening the door of the room, she's full on defense mode, threat pose, tapping. Very bolty too. I keep them in an arboreal setup but i added more substrate for them to dig. I overflow their water dish once a month. My enclosures are a bit bigger than the need so i dont have to rehouse them too often. They grow kinda fast . 3/4"sling to 2.5" in a year.. their personnality change with each molt. Love the orange baboon tarantula "obt"
Hey, Paul! They are such awesome spiders. This one was such a slow grower, but I'm raising up some NCFs now that are growing much more quickly. Thanks for chiming in!
Great review Tom! You needed an OBT update... I've been impatient lol! Cannot wait until my sling gets a little bigger. Top favorite species 🧡🕷🧡
Hey, Amanda! Yeah, we originally planned to do this one before we moved, but then I decided to wait. :) It won't be long for you! :)
Nice rehouse! I love my OBT, she's actually fairly chilled out. They get unnecessary bad press, from my experience. Like you say, I think its largely the set up that dictates their behaviour 👌🏼
Hi, Jay! I agree completely. Not to say there aren't defensive ones out there, but the setup and the keeper can really make all of the difference.
This is exactly like blood or short tailed pythons. They had a reputation for being bitey defensive and mean snakes when in reality people were keeping them incorrectly and they responded negatively to that giving them a bad reputation. Very nice video.
I had two blood pythons back in the 90s that I adored. Both were very docile and very laid back. Great point!
Awesome patience on that rehouse Tom
Thanks so much, bud! Didn't want to spook her. :)
i have 10 old worlds i honestly give them all the same respect i usually have pretty calm re-housing's when i get a threat posture i will set the cup in the encloser and set the lid on if i can and come back in a min or two and very calmly coax them in usually works pretty well for me i feel really guilty when i stress them out too so i try and have the most chill rehousing i can even if it takes a half hour. thank you tom your videos are so great i did a ton of ow rehousing the other night while binge watching your videos lol Tom Moran is the Mr.Miyagi of chill rehousing's !
I treat all of my new world and old world species the same way as well. Some people don't get it, but I'd rather always be practicing good technique. Haha Thank you so much, Alison!
My OBT was my second tarantula because I apparently like challenges 😂 Mine is actually really chill and has never given me a threat pose. I have her in a tupperware container with about 7 inches of substrate and she's chosen to dig deep and just web up inside it. I only see her out occasionally and that's just her front half. Definitely going to be getting her an enclosure like this one soon so hopefully I'll see her more often.
This girl was actually really chill, too. I have 6 others, and they aren't bad at all.
I've just had to learn rather quickly from your video as I've very recently just been gifted an OBT as a suprise gift. I've only been in the hobby about 2 months with my lasiodora parahybana who thankfully seems to have an unusually calm nature before I was gifted the OBT.
My dad said to me "you know how you keep snakes and spiders and all those creepy things? well I got you another one" and then produces this glass enclosure covered with web.
I go to take a look and see this bright orange abdomen sticking out of a burrow and I almost froze as I knew exactly what it was but apparently my dad didn't and somehow the pet shop let him buy it without even checking if he knows the dangers old worlds can be.
Seems to have been chosen on the principle of orange one looks the coolest so I'll buy that one. Thanks to your video I'm no longer terrified of when I eventually have to re house it, just regular scared instead. At least that's an improvement I guess.
Ha! That's so awesome! Yeah, most of the people in the pet stores have no idea about tarantulas. I've seen OBTs offered with signs that say, "Great pet!" and "Docile" which could lead to folks trying to handle them. I just posted a video last week where I rehoused 4 of them to show that they aren't that bad. Congrats on getting one!
You're so smooth when you rehouse. I can say that I learned from the best
Why thank you, Tina! We try to keep things chill. :)
Excellent rehouse as always! These are the ones who initially sparked my interest in the hobby and now I have 5 P. murinus slings (2 OBTs, 2 DCF kigomas, and 1 DCF mikumi). One of my kigoma slings wouldn’t cooperate when I unpacked it so I left the vial in the deli cup and it ended up webbing it up and making it it’s den which made it even more complicated. Really looking forward to watching them grow into big beautiful spiders.
Hello, James! Thanks so much, bud. I still need to get the Kigoma and the mikumi (I have NCF and Tete). Can't wait to grow them up. :)
@@TomsBigSpiders I’ve been looking for NCF since you mentioned them in your podcast but haven’t seen any available and I haven’t heard of the other one. I’ll have to keep an eye out for those as well
Love this! I've been watching so many OBT videos and there are more demonizing them than appreciating them. The videos of people purposely teasing their T's are sad. But absolutely love your take and notes on the species
Hi, Stacey! That stuff drives me NUTS. They are not that bad if you're respectful and set them up correctly. Thank you!
Just got my first T, now I want 100! I was looking for a jumper to begin with but in winter in NY a local breeder had a curly juvenile for sale. I am HOOKED! I can't wait to graduate to old world but know enough to go slow. Definitely want to do it right!
That's awesome! Yeah, this hobby is SUPER addictive. I remember telling my wife that I would probably have a couple dozen some day (I now have over 200). Welcome to the hobby!
Hi Tom! I noted if not in this video but maybe a few earlier, that you were moaning about the lack of Crystal clear containers. Check out your local Wally World and look for the new Rubbermaid containers called Brilliant. They lock solid on the sides and it's not too bad with height to ground to width ratios, especially with slings, juveniles, and sub-adults. It's a thick plastic but I have used both a drill or a soddering gun to make holes for how I want the ventilation to be. They also stack well. Other sizes are also available through Amazon. I like the fact that they are extremely sturdy and Crystal clear they almost look like glass. I don't know it you knew about them but thought I'd mention them to you about them. Also, thank you for recommending Steve with Arachnoiden. I bought two T's from him and he was extremely helpful with my order. Considering the time he and I spent emailing back and forth was actually funny since his website was just upgraded and I was having difficulty ordering. I'd find something that didn't work, he'd find out what wasn't working on his end, get it fixed then I'd find another problem. Two day later between him and me it finally worked! He was a great guy to work with and my two new T's will be on their way to me and arrive on Thursday the 18th.
Any whoo, I hope you check out those containers and like them. They are around $8 a piece on average. Again thanks for the reference to Steve.
Hi, Linda! I honestly don't mind the milky ones as well, but every time I post a video featuring one, someone comes on and complains about it. I try to head that off! haha And I will absolutely check those out. Thank you for the heads up! And I'm so glad that you had a good experience with Steve. I've ordered from him a couple of times, and it went great both times. Thanks so much!
I OPTED TO A OBT FOR MY FIRST SPIDER, I GOT IT AS A SLING ABOUT 1/4 INCH LONG NOW IT IS AROUND 3 OR 4 INCHS LONG AND I LOVE IT, NOW MINE STAYS IN IT'S SKULL AND I NEVER SEEN IT OUT ,WHEN IT'S HUNGRY IT LAYS IT'S LEGS OUT THE EYE SOCKET I USE DUBIA ROACHES , AND IT LOVES THEM IT TAKES THE ROACH EVERY TIME ,I HAD IT ABOUT A YEAR NOW LOVE MY OBT!
That's awesome, David!
I absolutely love your videos Tom! I always get excited when I get a notification that you posted a new video. Keep up the great work☺️☺️
Thank you so very much, Arachno Queen!! :)
Great rehousing and nice enclosure! This reminds me that i have to rehouse one of my Pterinochilus kigoma females. Ohh dear! She wont be happy, she gets quite easy irritated!
I have noticed that P murinus kigoma grows much slower than other colormorphs of P murinus i have kept. The OBT have grown pretty quick in general, and i have had a bunch over the years. Very strange indeed! Yes, if given deep sub and lots of hidingplaces and debries, and a little taller cage their should be no problems with eigher attitudes or "ripping off their home" Sure, they are general defenssive but in such a cage they rather retreats. Another tip i can give with this speicies is to keep them in "frontopend" terrariums and place most of the substrate and decore back in the terrarium, because uf the tarantula is a especially heavy webbing creature, it doesnt matter if it weebs part of its home onto the "roof" of the tank, cos u open it in the front. The drawback is that it is harder to work in a front open enclosure. But your terrarium is nice cos you can open it from the top too
Hey, bud! Man, this OBT was one of my slower growing tarantulas. It took quite a while for her to even hit 2". The NCFs I'm raising are growing much more quickly, though. And great idea about the front opening. This enclosure has both front and top and plenty of depth, so hopefully I'll be all set with her. Thanks again!
Your videos as well as Dave over at Dave's Little Beasties has completely changed my perspective on OBTs and keeping them. Obviously healthy respect is still required for them as a species, but that's just as true for Pokies and I may have to reconsider adding an OBT to my collection at some point.
Yeah, they are definitely NOT the monsters that people make them out to be. I've been trying to convince folks of that for years. :)
I do an OBT care video, less than 24 hours later so do you. I watch it just to check that mine is set up correctly 😂. Only thing I did different was provide a deep burrow and substrate. Great video Tom
As soon as I'm done responding to comments, I'll go check yours out! I tried to mention many times in the video that you should also give them room to dig. I didn't give this one as much substrate because she has never really don't much digging.
@@TomsBigSpiders if you get around to watching my video it will make my day sir! Honestly your advice and level headed approach to stuff got me into inverts
Love all the terrariums and enclosures in the background. So nice and clean! Also that enclosure look super cool. So many webbing points, this enclosure gonna look soo cool all webbed out!
Thank you so much, Johan! I can't wait to see it all webbed up myself!
Great video and very informative as always! Keep up all the great work you do for the hobby my friend!👍
Hello! Thank you so much!
very beautiful. I love OBT's and miss mine very much. But like you Tom i kept mine like you do and never had any trouble out of her. Love those tops will for sure be checking into those. thanks Tom.
Hey, Tim! I IMMEDIATELY thought of you when I was putting this together. Again, so sorry to hear that. And I'm loving the tops. They cost some money, but they are just so convenient and they fit better than the originals. I'll be picking up more for sure. Hope all is well, bud!
Keep up the work! I just recently got a handfull of dcfs after looking for 9 months can't wait to see them grow.... My obt has not webbed much but she has a very intricate tunnel system in her substrate
Hello! Thank you so much! My big girl never did too much burrowing, but the slings I have now are quite the burrowers. :)
Thank you for your take on OBT. I do as well believe they just need space and hide to feel safe just like any other creature.
You are most welcome. I couldn't agree more.
@@TomsBigSpiders 🥰
Absolutely brilliant video and STUNNING T! I've just ordered my first OBT, I've been keeping a year and feel ready. Love your videos😃
Thank you so much, Natalie! And congrats! I have six of them I have to house very soon. :)
Been waiting for this video since the podcast, I love an obt got about 7 of them (various colour forms) fantastic species and great video Tom 😊
Hey, Robbie! What other color forms do you have? I currently have the NCF and the Tete Moz. I will definitely be looking for more!
@@TomsBigSpiders hey Tom I have a couple of red colour form, also usambara, mikumi and kigoma
That was definitely a sane re-housing. I share your "sediments" about the OBT's environment is contusive to their attitude. I've witnessed many an OBT that is being poked, prodded, managed and spooked by keepers during the rehousing process. I'd have an attitude as well if I was an OBT.... "No Respect"... I've also witnessed keepers holding their 3-4" OBT's in 4" containers. I call those keepers "Slum Lords"... if I was an OBT in that environment I'd bolt as soon as the lid came off and there was a chance of escape!
I believe that a lot of OBT keepers are just "Reaping what the sow"....
On another note, I just wanted to point out that I've seen a few of your "catch bottle" containers and I think it's a brilliant idea. To take it to the next level, I was thinking for example that for OBT's you should use a "Simply Orange" bottle, for green T's, use the "Simply Lime" bottle and for yellow T's .... well...😁😁
Thank you so much! I feel like the OBTs have been unjustly villianized over the years, and much of their bad reputations come from improper setups and keepers who are scared of them. I agree with you completely!
HAHAHAHA That's actually a hysterical idea!!! Haha Thanks!
Awesome video tom!
Thanks, bud!
Unfortunately, I know of some tarantula youtubers with pretty prolific followings who rile their OBTs up for views (i won't name names) but I really appreciate this video!! They should be cared for with caution like any old world species, but I really don't think they deserve the bad reputation
You don't say, Summer? ;) I know exactly what you're talking about, and it really irritates me. :( Thank you so much for getting it! :)
Thank you for the podcast and this video!!! Loved the podcast at work. The long ones really make my day!
Oh, and I will be getting one of this next month or so along with a Lasiodora parahybana. This will complete my collection of 10 tarantulas! After that I will have to see what ones end up as males so I can have more room when I send them off for breeding.
Hey, Dusty! Thanks so much! Every once in a while I bust one of the long ones out. haha And congrats on your L. parahybana! :)
Always great info Tom, thanks. Always left encouraged and confident for my new coming species.
Thanks so much! That's always what I'm going for.
I want an OBT now. I appreciate your neutral standing on these guys. I'm one of the types that was initially intimidated of this species, but this might be a choice of NW once I get confident in my husbandry. Great informative rehousing too and patience you give to your OBT.
I just wanted to present a video that didn't depict them as the scary monsters many make them out to be. Sure, they can be defensive...I'm not disputing that. But, if given room and if handled with respect, they can also be quite manageable. Thanks for chiming in!
Bigger is better! Got my AF in a Theraphosha sized enclosure and she's a dream. Still a bit defensive of her hides but the ease of maintenance from the excess space is great. I always recommend it to people when I can for this species.
Great point! Giving them a bit of extra room works for most defensive species. Thanks!!!
hello great video rehouseing Tom
Thank you so much!
thanks for sharing that!
my obt was defensive AF when i got her but it was like you said the enclosure was just too small for her. since she is in a larger one shes an angel! if i have to do some cleaning up or refill the waterdish she just goes back in her cave and gets out as soon as i am done.
Hello, M.K.! I'm glad to hear that you experienced the same thing. I've spoken to quite a few people who have them and have given them plenty of room, and they are just fine. Thanks for chiming in!
Literally bought my first 2cm sling 2 days ago. Was putting it off for the best part of a year because of the fear mongering videos. Yes it was faster than most of my t's but more than manageable. Just looking forward to that orange to come through now 😀 great content as always Tom!
Hello, Ben! Wow, I had some pretty good timing then. :) Congrats on getting one!
You’ll go down as a legend in the Tarantula community
Ha! Thank you, George!
LOve The enclosure, love The specie and your specimen is beautifull. 👌✔️
Thank you so much, Absit!
Dude you are gifted with these tarantulas. It's a definite connection. This channel is quickly becoming my favorite out of them all. As a noob tarantula keeper these vids are invaluable to me. Thank you and Billie for this.
Hey, August Dog! First off, my apologize for the late reply. Thank you so much! I quite comfortable around them, and I like to think that helps. Thank YOU for watching!
My obt is one of my calmest tarantulas
There are definitely some calm ones out there! :)
What a gorgeous enclosure set up! I’m sure your OBT is going to thrive in there.
Thank you very much, Paige!
Stunning! Definitely one I am going to get at some point :)
Looking forward to seeing the webbing your girl will do in her new enclosure!
Thanks so much! They are such gorgeous spiders. She's already been doing some webbing, so it shouldn't be long!
such a beautiful tarantula
I agree, J!
Aw man I miss my OBT. I was hoping for a big beautiful orange female spider but ended up with a mature male that hooked out at 1.5 inches and died within a year. Maybe someday I’ll get my big orange sassy girl.
Awwww...I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope that you get a female some day.
Both of my OBT (grown on sling and juvie) have a set up which allows them to bury or web. Stunning spiders, both skittish rather than aggressive. I always treat them with the greatest respect and until now never had any trouble 🤷♀️
Hello, Kaz! Yeah, I find them to be skittish or shy if you give them enough room. And you hit the nail on the head...it's about respect. Thank you!
Ah finally someone is talking about why most people's obt are very aggressive. I've seen a lot of people felt proud when they shared their obt in a threat posture like "Look it's so aggressive. So cool". But just like you said, they were housed in inadequate enclosures where their web got ripped off every time the lid is opened.
Thank you so much! Yeah, I've had no problems with any of mine. A lot of the "aggressiveness" is due to poor setups.
Thank you! Another brilliant video. 🙂 My husband and I have been thoroughly enjoying your UA-cam channel and podcasts. I’ve been wanting to get an OBT and after viewing this my husband said, “why don’t you get one of those, they are beautiful.” ☺️
Hello, Dawnell! Thank you so much! That's absolutely fantastic. :)
What a great video! I try never to use the word "aggressive" because I don't believe that tarantulas are. Defensive, yes some of them. It's really nice to see a video showing patience ending in a good rehouse unlike many other channels. She is a stunning girl by the way!
Hiya, Toni! I never use the word "aggressive" either. I hate when it's used to describe scared spiders that are trying to defend themselves. Thank you so much!
Tom thanks for the positive demo on an appropiate rehouse . Your point was well taken on giving them a little more verticle space and not tearing the top off thier "house" everytime we open the enclosure.
Also wanted to say thanks. your Videos Do inspire , After re-watching your feeding video VII from Sept. of last year and a few others I picked up a couple Phormictopus Auratus slings from a local show this past week end. I'm pretty stoked. These are great looking Ts
Cheers,
D.
Hello! Thank you so much for the kind words. And that is awesome that you picked up a couple P. auratus. Congrats! They are STUNNING as adults. :)
I might have to pick one of those lids! Thank you for showing it off, I have an extra exo terra laying around and I was nervous using it for a T
I'm loving them myself. A heck of a lot easier than retrofitting the ones that come with it! Thanks!
As always great video. With good advice.
Thank you so much!
@@TomsBigSpiders Your welcome Tom.
I have 9 of them they're absolutely beautiful and great to have and all them love to burrow
Hey, Tim! I'm up to 7 of them now. I LOVE the P. murinus!
I’ve just bought one of these a juvenile, love the way you both deal with thing, not over dramatic and shouting in the video, you both are amazing great example how to be calm.
Thank you so much, Martin! Yeah, we pride ourselves on calm rehousings here. :)
Thank you so much for this awesome video. I was just trying to decide if I should get this species. I wasn't particularly afraid of them but still wanted to make sure that this species is right for me. But now I feel like I could make an informed decision and pick up a sling at the expo this weekend. Thank you! 🕷️
Hello, and so sorry for the late reply! I think that, if kept correctly, they are no different than any other old world species. I currently have 7, and if given the room, they would rather bolt to their burrows. I think that the reputation came from folks keeping them incorrectly. I'm glad that this was helpful!
As usual another educational and professional video. As far as T's you're my go to! I don't have an OBT or an H. mac (my fav) as yet, mainly because of the reputation, however, now I have a couple of pokies, I'm finding like you have said, if the T isn't stressed it's more likely to be compliant. 🤞🏻Thanks for sharing your knowledge. 😊
Hi, Gina! Thank you so much! Yeah, the pokies are other spiders that get a bum rap because of the potential for issues. Drives me nuts. I have two H. macs as well, and they've been quite well behaved.
Incredibly informative video, I was wary of purchasing an OBT, but now... I'm thinking that may be my next T. Thanks Tom awesome as always.
Thanks so much, Matthew! I'm glad that I was able to strip away some of the fear. :)
All other species: Let's see if she'll give us a little bit of threat posture.
OBT: Let's see if we can get her to stop giving us a threat posture.
Ehhh...I currently have 6, and they are rather shy. I think that the whole "demon spider" thing is overblown or created by folks who don't keep them correctly.
I have a few OBTs and all the hype has me psyched out more so than my pokies. Your videos and podcasts definitely calm me down a bit lol. I'll say tho... the largest one I have is definitely my boltiest T. Everytime we rehouse, it ends up on the floor running around like a mad woman 😂
1x 4" OBT
2x 2" RCF
2x 1" DCF Kigoma
1x .75" DCF Mikumi NP
Hey, Cory! Sounds like you have quite the spitfire there! haha And that's a great collection of them! I only have the NCF and Tete Moz.
I’m new to the hobby but I really appreciate your content and all your videos. Not ready for old worlds yet but my GBB, A seemani and A chalcodes are really amazing and fun to keep. I ordered the keeper cards so I’m fully an arachnerd! Lol. Thanks and keep up the great vids!
Hello, Philip! Thank you so much! And I totally understand; there is never any rush. And, for some people, the risk isn't worth it. And that's awesome on the Keeper Cards! Mine UA-cam "Legends" cards should be coming very soon! haha
I love these guys, they're probably my third favorite t.
They are definitely up at the top of the list for me, too!
Just this last Monday I got my very first T's (3) (after waiting for about 3 years ) All good beginner spiders, not an OBT, but who knows,, maybe in the future! I really like your videos and have watched a lot of them. Thank you for the excellent content.
Hello, Cattrix999! That's awesome...congrats and welcome to the hobby! And thank you for the very kind words!
These are my absolute favorite. Just recieved two .25 inch slings. Which means, I've now owned nine of these guys.
My attempt with two H. maculata slings in 2012, of the same size, failed and its stuck in my mind like a sliver. So, I'm checking pulses thrice a day.
But, I'm far more experienced with the murinus. Confident it's just jitters.
D.M.
Sorry to hear about your H. macs. These guys are really durable, so I'm sure that you'll be fine.
Great video Tom, great rehouse and a beautiful species. I have a p. murinus and it's true for what you said Tom if you treat them right you have a happier spider.
Hello, George! Thank you so much, bud! Glad to hear yours is happy as well. :)
I agree with you Tom, most people on youtube and facebook, antagonize OBTs too much. I’ve seen some intentionally disturb them to show “aggression”. 🤦🏻
some people love to piss off their p murinus for views and likes. it just leads to misconceptions and hysteria. now there's people that are afraid of these animals because of some goofs on social media.
Exotic lair is one good example of these people who intentionally disturb his pets for views and likes. Lol
@@lumiere2713 pretty much all of them do. i've seen dark den keep these african tarantulas in little tiny containers with no hide or waterdish, then he's like wow it's so angry lol!
@@ytcensorship1401 yep, that is why I only follow tom for more reliable, factual and straight to the point content.
It's one of my biggest pet peeves. I loathe the channels that don't put the animals first. They're not toys. Thanks so much for getting it!