DF Nintendo Direct Special: Metroid Prime 4, Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom, Lego Horizon + More

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  • Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
  • Just when we thought the summer festival of gaming events was over, Nintendo comes out of nowhere with a brand-new Direct featuring a wide rage of excellent titles - not bad for a system reaching the end of its life cycle. John Linneman and Oliver Mackenzie team up to share notes on the Direct, including a tech-orientated argument about how it's definitely NOT Switch 2 delivering the Metroid Prime 4 footage!
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    0:00:00 Introduction
    0:01:42 Metroid Prime 4: Beyond
    0:14:08 The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom
    0:22:43 Lego Horizon Adventures
    0:29:44 Mario & Luigi: Brothership
    0:35:47 Funko Fusion, Nintendo Switch Online updates, Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics
    0:45:42 Donkey Kong Country Returns HD, Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D Remake, Fantasian: Neo Dimension
    0:55:37 MIO: Memories In Orbit, The Hundred Line: Last Defence Academy, Super Mario Party Jamboree, ぶっとバード, Ace Attorney Investigations Collection
    1:05:24 Evaluating the Direct and looking forward to Switch 2
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  • @purebaldness
    @purebaldness 12 днів тому +356

    These two make for a pretty compelling duo, I would say.

    • @spacechannelfiver
      @spacechannelfiver 12 днів тому +28

      They have really good chemistry

    • @matthewhaddad9086
      @matthewhaddad9086 11 днів тому +19

      I hope they kissss

    • @Thelegendoftriplett
      @Thelegendoftriplett 11 днів тому +1

      Funny that for all the DF staff it was another American guy. PC gaming really is the big WW thing everywhere else

    • @purebaldness
      @purebaldness 11 днів тому +2

      @@Thelegendoftriplett I'll be curious to see how the rest of the big WW thing unfolds...

    • @purebaldness
      @purebaldness 11 днів тому +4

      @@matthewhaddad9086 the concept of a fordy frames per second option would be quite intriguing to say the least. I'll be curious to see how the rest of the kissss unfolds...

  • @JustJuan731
    @JustJuan731 12 днів тому +90

    I’m always gonna bring this up because it’s such a funny fact: some of the artists that worked on Halo 4 were actually old Reto Studio devs (which explains why that game looks so good on a 360), only to leave 343 and go back to Retro to work on Prime 4. It’s also a massive coincidence that they’re both the forth entry in their franchise AND that they’re both the swan song for their respective consoles.

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 11 днів тому +11

      I didn't expect that kind of connection. So its doubly cool.

    • @HaloGaming08
      @HaloGaming08 11 днів тому +2

      Very awesome I always thought 4 was very underrated so it's nice to see

    • @davidcastillo7492
      @davidcastillo7492 11 днів тому +5

      Time is a flat circle lol

    • @user-os9wp1up7w
      @user-os9wp1up7w 10 днів тому +2

      wow how cool is that

    • @mbsfaridi
      @mbsfaridi 10 днів тому

      Woah!

  • @JamesSturges
    @JamesSturges 12 днів тому +394

    Always nice when Oliver gets some time to shine, even if he’s seemingly abandoned the sixth generation entirely with his move away from the GameCube room.

    • @ElementalTJ
      @ElementalTJ 12 днів тому +22

      Oliver always impresses

    • @sonikku997
      @sonikku997 12 днів тому +5

      I miss Oliver's GameCube... :c

    • @v1kt0u5
      @v1kt0u5 11 днів тому +7

      are you implying they don't normally allow him to shine? everyone is always great!

    • @shaecouture7480
      @shaecouture7480 11 днів тому +20

      He is now inside the switch dock

    • @richardharris9708
      @richardharris9708 11 днів тому +2

      @@v1kt0u5 He's only allowed on Direct when one of Rich/Alex/John is missing. Which is unfair!

  • @Siendra
    @Siendra 12 днів тому +115

    Sylux was a character in MP: Hunters, but he also shows up in the secret endings of both Metroid Prime 3 and Federation Force.

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 12 днів тому +20

      Man, they really been teasing that boyo for 17 years!

    • @paulanderson929
      @paulanderson929 11 днів тому

      @@Deliveredmean42hahaha

    • @Drilbit
      @Drilbit 11 днів тому +4

      Crazy how they're finally following up on it after many years.

    • @alexsilva28
      @alexsilva28 8 днів тому +1

      ​@@DrilbitSurprised they didn't abandon that idea for a brand new direction

    • @Drilbit
      @Drilbit 8 днів тому

      @alexsilva28 I imagine that was the plan for a 4th game it just took almost 20 years to happen.

  • @SuntoryKick
    @SuntoryKick 11 днів тому +59

    It’s amusing that they said there’s some Halo 4 aesthetic in Prime 4 because when Halo 4 first released people were saying it had some Metroid Prime aesthetic.

    • @BravelyBasic
      @BravelyBasic 8 днів тому +1

      where there ex retro developers in 343 industries? or did 343 devs get inspired by metroid and then ended up in Retro?

    • @benjaminturkalj4415
      @benjaminturkalj4415 7 днів тому +3

      Retro guys went work on hslo infinite then came backfor metroid. I guess they actuelly wanted to finish a game

    • @linkhuesitos15
      @linkhuesitos15 16 годин тому

      @@BravelyBasic Retro"s team has changed a lot after Prime 3.
      Some dev went to 343i to work on H4, others to what is now Blue Point. If those devs are returning to retro or they"re entirely different people is unkown, but we know that some 343i devs moved to retro.

  • @djfresh826
    @djfresh826 12 днів тому +105

    You brought Oliver, one of the best at Digital Foundry, who appreciates all of gaming as a whole like John.. always great when he's on these DF Directs... thanks

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 12 днів тому +22

      This - they seem like the only people at DF who enjoy games and not just pedantic analysis of gaming tech.

    • @djfresh826
      @djfresh826 12 днів тому +3

      @@yellowblanka6058 this is so true

    • @James-nj8gx
      @James-nj8gx 11 днів тому +7

      You guys watching the same channel? They all love gaming.

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 11 днів тому +3

      @@James-nj8gx I only ever seem to hear the others talk about gaming tech or historic gaming tech, almost never any discussion of the games themselves or design elements…Alex very occasionally will, but it’s rare. I know Richard was a game reviewer some decades ago, but he only seems to discuss gaming tech news these days.

    • @saifojio2259
      @saifojio2259 11 днів тому +7

      Rich is fine too, he is more of a neutral party that is mostly into the tech-side of things and thats fine

  • @VulturePilot
    @VulturePilot 12 днів тому +153

    Man I was 15 years old when MP3 released and the 100% ending launched a thousand Sylux MP4 theories. Wild I’m 31 now and MP4 is FINALLY coming!

    • @radicalunar
      @radicalunar 12 днів тому +16

      I was 7 dude! I'm going to be 25 when Prime 4 finally comes out. I didn't think it would be this long. I remember thinking Prime 4 would be a Wii U game.

    • @AbbyRawks
      @AbbyRawks 12 днів тому +35

      I love how out of context this just sounds like you're talking about the music and video filetypes.

    • @joelc3449
      @joelc3449 12 днів тому +11

      Kids..try being 40, I know I know, may as well just kick the bucket.
      I actually played Metroid Prime 3 for the first time at 35, bought at Gamestop, ripping the ISO file with my wife's Wii, and playing it on Dolphin emulator at 1440p 60hz, and even getting it to work on my VR headset. Dolphin VR was better with the VR depth, but since the dev didn't continue, it still works 2.5D with standard Dolphin that is regularly updated.

    • @MattTurvey
      @MattTurvey 12 днів тому +3

      @@AbbyRawksI totally read it as a codec statement 😭

    • @Veo87
      @Veo87 12 днів тому +4

      I'm 36 and I remember playing MP3 a lot in my early 20's.

  • @PikminGuts92
    @PikminGuts92 12 днів тому +130

    Always great to see former GameCube resident, Oliver

  • @daysgone3950
    @daysgone3950 12 днів тому +71

    For 1 secound I thought it is Monday again and start to panic about a week of work ahead.

    • @nask0
      @nask0 11 днів тому +1

      hahaha same ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

  • @rohan68842
    @rohan68842 12 днів тому +48

    Just gotta say, thank you two for not being overly negative with switch games! It's really refreshing to get actual analysis of what devs do to get around the switch limitations and not just a dogpile.

    • @NintenJon2023
      @NintenJon2023 11 днів тому +16

      Agreed. This is why the folks at DF are pretty much the only ones I go to these days for gaming news and analysis.

    • @rohan68842
      @rohan68842 11 днів тому +11

      @@NintenJon2023 Yeah… unless Alex is part of the discussion 😬

  • @wiremesh2
    @wiremesh2 12 днів тому +39

    Just confirming that yes, the backgrounds in Fantasian were actual physical dioramas, but rather than using still photos of them, they were fully 3D scanned.

  • @KayJay_EU
    @KayJay_EU 12 днів тому +38

    5:38 it's Sylux from Hunters and they show him to tell us that they indeed continue where Metroid Prime 3 left off because at the last scene of the true MP3 ending we see Sylux's ship tracking Samus.

    • @abaque24
      @abaque24 12 днів тому +8

      it's picking up from Prime Federation Force's secret ending. :D

    • @logansmith2703
      @logansmith2703 12 днів тому +3

      He also got the Metroids from Fed Force

    • @inamorta47-playertwist
      @inamorta47-playertwist 11 днів тому

      Actually its with Federation force with the secret ending.

    • @NintenJon2023
      @NintenJon2023 11 днів тому +2

      @@inamorta47-playertwist In Prime 3’s secret ending, he is tracking Samus’ ship. In Federation Forces, he gets the two baby Metroids in the secret ending.

    • @kevinbuchanan67
      @kevinbuchanan67 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@NintenJon2023sweet! Thanks for the info

  • @TheDuzx
    @TheDuzx 12 днів тому +34

    I would even say that part of why Prime 4 took so long for Retro Studios was probably because they were doing the Prime Remaster and while I think they were working on both I also think the remaster work was something they wanted to do to get the team in the right headspace for Prime 4. I think Retro Studios knows what's at stake here so they're working really hard to live up to the expectations.

    • @JackWse
      @JackWse 12 днів тому +2

      Do you think the new team is going to treat the player like an adult, trust them to be able to platform on their own, or do you think they're going to heavy hit nostalgia and replicate the old system?
      Man this could be good, but the lack of trust in the player, for the original, versus what you could have with what they were trying to do with more interesting peripherals later on... Like somewhere in that stew is something better and or new.. I just feel like that's probably not what they're going to keep doing anymore or again.. especially with legacy titles.

    • @TheDuzx
      @TheDuzx 12 днів тому +1

      @@JackWse Who knows. I would be happy if they stayed close to the original, but if they give us options that's even better.

    • @wausjackbauer128
      @wausjackbauer128 11 днів тому

      Metroid Prime Remastered was made by Retro Studios and Iron Galaxy Studios.
      Also it was just a visual upgrade with everything else staying the same so the development time wouldn't have been crazy long.
      The closest game to it, Wind Waker HD took 6 months to develop so Prime Remastered was probably similar.

    • @TheDuzx
      @TheDuzx 11 днів тому +6

      @@wausjackbauer128 WW HD didn't touch the 3D mesh. Prime Remastered did. They even changed some hallways slightly to make signposting clearer. It's how you remember the original, but actually they took care to make it better. It might have taken 6-12 months, but that's still a lot of time for staff to familiarize themselves with the game.

    • @sorraks
      @sorraks 9 днів тому

      ​@@wausjackbauer128Skyward Sword HD took over a year

  • @teo_ww
    @teo_ww 12 днів тому +52

    Switch has managed to get a library as legendary as the GameCube, but become their best selling system. Well done Nintendo, well done.

    • @Alfenium
      @Alfenium 12 днів тому +5

      ummm no

    • @vernontk
      @vernontk 12 днів тому +18

      I love GameCube, but Switch has a much better library.

    • @teo_ww
      @teo_ww 12 днів тому +7

      @@vernontk of course it does, I agree. The legendary thing on GameCube was mostly done by third parties with exclusives or initial exclusives, like RE4, Killer 7, Star Wars Rogue leader etc. People tend to focus on the famous brands, and admittedly Mario sunshine is not the best 3D Mario by far, but the gamecube had the first Luigi's Mansion at launch, the first Pikmin, the first legendary Metroid Prime, Eternal Darkness etc. I could go on. But yeah, my point was: the switch is probably the best Nintendo system.

    • @user-ds8rj2vc4v
      @user-ds8rj2vc4v 11 днів тому +4

      Hopefully Switch 2 is 100% backwards compatible. Imagine upscaling current games, but also the library of a combined Switch and Switch 2 over the next 7/8 years.

    • @v1kt0u5
      @v1kt0u5 11 днів тому +3

      ​@@vernontk Only because of the cumulative effect, including remasters and remakes. At their time, the Game Cube and its best games, were more impressive and legendary.

  • @ViperKreuz
    @ViperKreuz 11 днів тому +6

    One thing that really struck me with the Mario & Luigi reveal were the animations. The animations look amazing. That was the highlight for me for that game.

  • @MajoraZ
    @MajoraZ 11 днів тому +13

    For Donkey Kong Country Returns HD, Drybones2015 / Johnathon2015 has compiled some issues with missing effects and broken shaders. Hopefully those will get ironed out before release, but there's a fair amount of issues.

    • @zultriova89
      @zultriova89 10 днів тому

      im sure they had enough time to fix this before release date.. its not like it will out next month and it just game port, unless they in development for remakes, yeah. it concerning..

  • @caseypenk
    @caseypenk 12 днів тому +111

    I’m just relieved Switch 1 isn’t dead!!!

    • @AlkoPRO11
      @AlkoPRO11 12 днів тому +17

      Like PS4.. IMMORTAL!

    • @abjames3098
      @abjames3098 12 днів тому +16

      Far from it... even in 2025 there is DKC Returns HD, Metroid Prime 4: BEYOND, and Pokemon Legends Z-A so far...

    • @cheke_hs
      @cheke_hs 12 днів тому +26

      Not only this, but after how packed this Direct was, there’s 0% chance in my mind that their next console ISN’T backwards compatible. No way they’re gonna leave all of these soon-to-be-released games on old hardware.

    • @The_MEMEphis
      @The_MEMEphis 12 днів тому +8

      ​@@AlkoPRO11It's too soon to call PS4 immortal the PS2 got games till 2014 that's 14 years of support but I think they mean in terms of when the system is replaced not how long it gets games overall

    • @optimust
      @optimust 12 днів тому +13

      @@The_MEMEphis dont worry, og switch gonna get annual editions of JUST DANCE for another 20 years :p

  • @matwilliams8012
    @matwilliams8012 12 днів тому +23

    The Switch, deservingly should go down as the greatest video game console of all time … not just due to its longevity and what developers are able to squeeze out of it, but simply because of its games library … I can’t think of any other console that has SO MANY amazing titles.

    • @spacechannelfiver
      @spacechannelfiver 12 днів тому +2

      It’s one of the best for sure. PS2 and some of the other handhelds spring to mind.

    • @tbunreall
      @tbunreall 12 днів тому +2

      Quite frankly, I think the switch sucks, but saying that, I think switch emulators are one of the greatest "consoles" of all time

    • @mmarshfairc3
      @mmarshfairc3 12 днів тому +2

      @@tbunreallI’m curious why you think the switch sucks?
      Personally, I am not a Nintendo guy at all. I don’t like Mario, Zelda, Pokémon etc any of that. And despite that, the switch has been an incredibly rewarding system for me. It has a deluge of JRPGs, arcade ports of shooters and fighting games, tons of indie games on the cheap and many of those games I enjoy are exclusive. Like PC, it has support for many third party controllers, so I get to play all these games with my favorite controller (Sega Saturn controller). For a long time I thought the switch was not for me, but no matter how much I distanced myself from it, it wormed itself back into my life- just couldn’t keep away from it! It has so much value to me even as someone who doesn’t care about most Nintendo games.
      I understand if you’re a PC gamer, but plenty of PC gamers enjoy a switch on the side, or at least still see the value it has to someone who isn’t a PC gamer.

    • @tbunreall
      @tbunreall 12 днів тому +2

      @@mmarshfairc3 The games just run and look like crap. That's why I said the emulators are great. Playing switch games at 60fps 1440p+ really drives home how badly the switch runs

    • @GreaterPhenom
      @GreaterPhenom 12 днів тому +2

      I just realized this is the first game console in history to have both a completely original "2D" Metroid and a completely original 3D Metroid. Hold up, the same can be said about Zelda too, right?
      Yes, Switch is the best console in history.

  • @Cognitive-Clips
    @Cognitive-Clips 12 днів тому +17

    I hopped onto UA-cam hoping y’all had a breakdown on that MP4 footage and whaddaya know, it was posted not even 10 minutes ago 😂

  • @michaelmacorso4479
    @michaelmacorso4479 12 днів тому +7

    Man would love for you to talk about metroid for a hour. This is a good time to be a metroid fan.

  • @spustatu
    @spustatu 12 днів тому +20

    So interesting to hear MP4 be compared to Halo 4 when I (and I'm sure many others) always thought Halo 4 looked like a Metroid Prime game.

    • @shawnregina9110
      @shawnregina9110 12 днів тому +1

      A few of Retros employees ended up working on Halo games after they finished trilogy due to the switch to DKC games.

    • @spustatu
      @spustatu 12 днів тому

      @@shawnregina9110 Well, if they were part of Halo 4 (I can't remember when MP3 and Halo 4 released), then it really shows. Just like how it shows that former Retro folks made Jedi Fallen Order.

    • @gnoLeDwerdnA
      @gnoLeDwerdnA 12 днів тому +1

      Absolutely this was a common comparison back then so it’s pretty funny that John is seemingly unaware of this

    • @spustatu
      @spustatu 12 днів тому +3

      @@gnoLeDwerdnA I mean, I don't know how aware or unaware he might be, but it is interesting to see it come full circle like this.

    • @shawnregina9110
      @shawnregina9110 12 днів тому +1

      @@spustatu interesting. Didn’t know about the Retro/fallen order connection. But yes Metroid Prime veterans definitely left their mark on Halo.

  • @Schizm1
    @Schizm1 12 днів тому +19

    Prime remastered is GORGEOUS so I'm 100% with the visuals of Prime 4. I still think it might be cross gen title like Zelda BotW was.

    • @corey2232
      @corey2232 12 днів тому +4

      I think that's why they just said "2025."
      I think Pokemon Z-A or whatever will also be that way, though perhaps not a launch title.

  • @Crevox
    @Crevox 12 днів тому +26

    For Brothership, I'm surprised there was no mention of AlphaDream. AlphaDream was the developer of all the Mario & Luigi series games, but they filed for bankruptcy and closed down in 2020. The fact there is a new entry in the series is a bit of a surprise.
    As far as I know, we don't know who is developing this new entry yet.

    • @Jonathan-fw6ty
      @Jonathan-fw6ty 12 днів тому +11

      We do know that many of the core staff at AD went on to work directly at Nintendo.
      We also know that some of them went on to work at SquareEnix.

    • @jarde1989
      @jarde1989 11 днів тому +7

      Y’all really need to let that go
      Majority of AD staff went to work for Nintendo with a minority going to other 3rd parties

    • @inamorta47-playertwist
      @inamorta47-playertwist 11 днів тому +5

      Nintendo close AD and took majority of its core staff because financially its a better step than paying off a studio debt.
      The studio is just a name. Its the staff that makes the studio.

    • @evilsock12
      @evilsock12 11 днів тому +2

      there's a good chance that it's monolith soft since that's where several members of AD went.

    • @sentoworf
      @sentoworf 11 днів тому

      Why would they bring up a closed studio

  • @JayOfSpade
    @JayOfSpade 12 днів тому +11

    I hope John gives DKCR another chance when HD comes out, I found his takes on the game's design to be rather strange. I've played through it several times and while it has plenty of set pieces I don't feel like it has more scripted moments than DKTF.

    • @fredjd11
      @fredjd11 10 днів тому +3

      Agreed. I understand the love TF gets but Returns is sort of the blueprint for what they achieved in the latter title. I actually quite like the more compact levels in Returns, even at the expense of the more grandiose narrative designs in the follow-up.
      Also think it’s a bit ungenerous to call the music in Returns “very poor.” It’s not great and lacks the David Wise whimsy of TF, but it has a certain charm to it-like Donkey Kong music parsed through a Metroid Prime soundfont.

  • @pinkspider28
    @pinkspider28 12 днів тому +21

    Looking forward to the metroid prime 4 technical analysis

  • @lukewarnut
    @lukewarnut 11 днів тому +7

    Link’s Awakening did not use Unity. It used one of Nintendo’s in-house engines. The job listing mentioned was likely referring to Jet Dragon, Grezzo’s Apple Arcade game.

    • @kenk5269
      @kenk5269 11 днів тому +2

      funny thing is its DF got it all wrong when this is more of a technical channel than just a typical reviewer.

  • @John-uk2lp
    @John-uk2lp 11 днів тому +3

    Never thought I'd hear someone of DF say "This is exciting" when talking about framerate drops 😂

  • @sandman8920
    @sandman8920 12 днів тому +7

    I think prime looks incredible for the switch. I honestly don’t know what some people were expecting

  • @purplebeard1526
    @purplebeard1526 11 днів тому +4

    For that end part, I think Yoshi's Wooly World should get a Switch release. Incorporate the 3DS's version of the custom Yoshi Creator and you got a winner. That game looked stellar on WiiU.

    • @fredjd11
      @fredjd11 10 днів тому +1

      Very much agreed. Wooly World is a masterpiece, and a version that consolidates the enhancement features in the 3DS version with the visuals and panache of the Wii U original would be a barnburner release.

    • @purplebeard1526
      @purplebeard1526 10 днів тому +2

      @fredjd11 the custom Yoshi editor made the 3DS game imo.

  • @supervisedchaos
    @supervisedchaos 11 днів тому +6

    I love how developer ability is now recognized by their quality of Switch ports... Ya you can make a great looking game that runs well but let's see how you do when you port it to switch

  • @Dac_vak
    @Dac_vak 12 днів тому +9

    A Direct with John and Oli! What a treat!

  • @cyberrb25
    @cyberrb25 12 днів тому +14

    Donkey Kong Country Returns Again

    • @sebastiannienow6981
      @sebastiannienow6981 11 днів тому +1

      Donkey Kong Country Returns Returns Returns

    • @wausjackbauer128
      @wausjackbauer128 11 днів тому +5

      Somehow, Donkey Kong returned

    • @mbsfaridi
      @mbsfaridi 10 днів тому

      In HD

    • @FelixS.
      @FelixS. 10 днів тому +1

      DKC Returns Again would be such a brilliant self-aware title :D

    • @MTaye7
      @MTaye7 6 днів тому +1

      With a bunch of missing effects and other issues as seen in newly revealed videos.

  • @AmicusRyelei
    @AmicusRyelei 12 днів тому +4

    It's a shame Alex wasn't on this. Think of all the shrugs and promotion of "emulating" we could've had.

  • @Alcaatraz01
    @Alcaatraz01 12 днів тому +2

    I love the energy you guys exude on screen for this direct. Much appreciated

  • @StiffAftermath
    @StiffAftermath 12 днів тому +22

    Nintendo kicked ace this generation. I am happy.

  • @Cobaltios
    @Cobaltios 12 днів тому +4

    Yeah, at first glance it's easy to think the MP4 footage is potentially from Switch 2, especially with people's headspace being in that general area. However, if you go back to Prime Remastered, MP4 doesn't look too far off from that visually.

  • @chronosarcanos
    @chronosarcanos 11 днів тому

    I just love this special directs to talk about shows and special events. Pls keep them up 🙂

  • @omarnoble4788
    @omarnoble4788 12 днів тому +22

    My first thought for MP4 was definitely "Oh it's Halo 4 but massively cleaned up."

    • @tannerlivingston8981
      @tannerlivingston8981 12 днів тому +1

      Can you explain the Halo 4 thing to me? I have seen it referenced everywhere for MP4 but feel like I'm missing something here.

    • @fordy198244
      @fordy198244 12 днів тому +5

      When they designed halo 4 the developers are on record saying prime influnced graphic style

    • @LKNear
      @LKNear 11 днів тому +1

      Halo 4 but the artstyle isnt awful

    • @HaloGaming08
      @HaloGaming08 11 днів тому

      ​@fordy198244 oh really!? That's pretty cool

    • @DigiNiverg
      @DigiNiverg День тому

      ​@@LKNear so halo 4

  • @videogameobsession
    @videogameobsession 11 днів тому +5

    Metroid Prime 4 ...8 years in development hell, they'd better come out swinging with this one! DK Swinging! :)
    I just hope Amazon does cancel my pre-order from 2017. It was back when they were giving 20% off discounts on all pre-orders.

  • @inamorta47-playertwist
    @inamorta47-playertwist 11 днів тому +3

    You guys should make a dedicated DF nintendo focus podcast. You guys are great for it.

  • @clifflenoir4323
    @clifflenoir4323 8 днів тому +1

    We are still missing remasters of all the GameCube era games on Switch which could hopefully come to Switch 2. Outside of Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, Mario Sunshine and Wind Waker, we are missing many of the great games from that era: Waverace, 1080 Avalanche, Rogue Leader, F-Zero GX and so many more

  • @linkvagar2336
    @linkvagar2336 11 днів тому +3

    The backgrounds in Fantasian were in fact hand-made dioramas scanned into the game.

  • @glenn3646
    @glenn3646 12 днів тому +9

    Dam the new Mertroid look very good

  • @james240878
    @james240878 12 днів тому +3

    What I’m imagining is that one of the reasons the original build of Prime 4 got cancelled was that somehow it didn’t feel or look quite like a prime game, which is a problem when you announce it as prime 4. This is something that you can’t tweak, if that feel isn’t there then the project is done for. At which point retro took over and used a prime 1 remaster to think, okay, how would a current gen prime game look, and move forward there. That way the feel and look of the game would be in place almost immediately.

  • @Fulthrotle73
    @Fulthrotle73 11 днів тому +4

    Bringing back Wii Donkey Kong Country is just getting us ready for Donkey Kong Country 2 Bannana in the Wild for Switch 2.

    • @FelixS.
      @FelixS. 10 днів тому

      You mean DKC6.

  • @godbelow
    @godbelow 12 днів тому +12

    You're expecting a lot regarding 4k on Switch 2. That's expecting a lot even on modern PC.

    • @deliriousdenis2774
      @deliriousdenis2774 12 днів тому +12

      They mostly mean with dlss I’m sure which is a really solid upscaler. It’s not too hard to imagine older switch games can easily be pushed a little more in resolution then upscaled

    • @spacechannelfiver
      @spacechannelfiver 12 днів тому

      @@deliriousdenis2774don’t forget upscalars add some ms to frametime.

    • @no_misaki
      @no_misaki 12 днів тому +2

      True. Even PS5/XSX need to rely on upscaling and dynamic res in any remotely demanding game to target 4K. You're lucky to get a stable 30fps on those machines with native rendering unless it's an enhanced last gen title.

    • @MrJekken
      @MrJekken 11 днів тому +1

      if the dlss feature set on the switch 2 is solid then i think it will be able to punch above its weight in terms of image quality.

    • @spacechannelfiver
      @spacechannelfiver 11 днів тому +1

      If it can do a solid 1080p at 60Hz with motion vectors then a 4k output via DLSS at the cost of 4ms per frame seems achievable. Metroid Prime 4 at 4K 60 feels like it would be doable. 4K displays have wide adoption now. The fallback should be 1080p bilinearly scaled to 2160p. DLSS from 1080p to 2160p is generally pretty okay, it holds up a lot better than FSR or even XeSS

  • @corey2232
    @corey2232 12 днів тому +10

    As a long time Nintendo fan, an important thing to remember is the most successful Nintendo consoles are those with tons of 3rd party support.
    The internet likes to say "people only buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games," but historically that hasn't been enough.
    If the majority of the biggest multiplat games skip your console, even Nintendo fans will refuse to buy the console. You can have Nintendo exclusives, but if everything else is exclusively NOT on Nintendo, it makes for a hard sell.
    Also remember that Nintendo fans are very different from one another & care about different IPs. Nintendo has done a good job overall appealing to all their various fanbases.
    Some people may only care about Pokemon & Kirby, while others might only like Mario & Mario Kart. Some may be Metroid & Zelda fans, while others like Pikmin & Animal Crossing. Nintendo also did a great job diversifying their lineup & touching on many genres.
    For the first time in ages, we had a Nintendo console that was huge on RPGs (including 1st party ones), while also giving us a range of 3D, 2D, AAA, indie, AA, casual, serious, etc. games.
    Along with the hardware concept itself, this is why I feel the Switch has been so successful for such a long time.

    • @cube2fox
      @cube2fox 12 днів тому +2

      The Switch is still almost exclusively a console for Nintendo games: According to the Wikipedia list, all the top 25 (!) best-selling Switch games were published by Nintendo (or Nintendo+Pokémon Company). For PS5, only the top 2 (!) were published by Sony. Place 3 was already a third party (From Software).
      These Wikipedia numbers are likely too pessimistic as many third parties don't publish sales figures and therefore aren't included in these lists. Still, the difference between Nintendo and Sony consoles is massive here. Things on PS4 do look similar to PS5.
      This means it is probably pretty much impossible for third party games to sell large amounts of games on a Nintendo console. And this is likely why most big third party AAA games are not developed for or ported to Switch. Nintendo consoles are primarily bought for Nintendo games, while PlayStations and Xboxes are not primarily bought for Sony or Microsoft games alone.

    • @baked7423
      @baked7423 11 днів тому +1

      I disagree about nintendo fans, at least hardcore refusing without third party support however it certainly helps keep people engage. Third parties may not be the reason people buy a nintendo console but it is supplementary to the core games. Third party support is how u get non nintendo or casual fans to buy in and maintain retention. That was a problem with the Wii U since there was dry periods inbetween and nobody cared including nintendo fans

  • @lightspeedbear
    @lightspeedbear 9 днів тому

    Great video, you two work really well together, good chemistry!

  • @thanksbetotap
    @thanksbetotap 10 днів тому +1

    I’m still annoyed they screwed up the doors in Prime Remastered with the missing alpha layer 😅

  • @animetodamaximum
    @animetodamaximum 12 днів тому +4

    Mario & Luigi made the presentation for me. Love that series.

  • @flyingplantwhale545
    @flyingplantwhale545 11 днів тому +1

    These two dudes are really in their element with Nintendo stuff. The rest of the team really struggle to give a sh*t during regular podcasts. I wish they could do a revisit of some of Nintendo's older e3 press conferences (the good and the bad )

  • @TrevKen
    @TrevKen 10 днів тому +1

    9:15, interesting stuff, but Oliver seemed to speed up and slow down... Thought I was experiencing a time dilation, woah 🙃

  • @ben-tendo
    @ben-tendo 11 днів тому +1

    Nice to see the passionate individuals cover this compared to others who let's be honest, aren't keen on Nintendo to begin with and never understand their way of creating content - despite the fact it clearly works!

  • @Gounen
    @Gounen 10 днів тому +1

    The Zelda game - where you actually play as Zelda, and looks like it sort of carries on the wierd building philosophy in Tears of the Kingdom - sounds really fun!

  • @gelfrecs
    @gelfrecs 12 днів тому

    I can't get enough of like 4 directs in one week. More more!!

  • @JamesPound
    @JamesPound 11 днів тому +1

    John's first hot take not liking Donkey Kong Returns. That was a phenomenal entry in the series.

  • @TylerHNothing
    @TylerHNothing 9 днів тому

    Oliver busting out obscure references and stuff is so inspiring. I know he’s not new to the team but I’m new to my team and him coming on here more and more just inspires me

  • @bananachild1936
    @bananachild1936 11 днів тому +2

    Tom Morgan should've been in this DF Direct too honestly but I guess maybe he's just too much a busy fella.

  • @nuclearbeeberman
    @nuclearbeeberman 11 днів тому

    thanks for the great video! Can't wait to see a more detailed tech analysis of Metroid Prime 4, when it comes out next year.

  • @carbonfibercarpet4655
    @carbonfibercarpet4655 12 днів тому +13

    Is Richard gone because he’s taking a look at the Xbox Handheld?

    • @ricepony33
      @ricepony33 12 днів тому +15

      He is actually building a pc to match the GPU in the XBOX power brick.

  • @almmiron
    @almmiron 11 днів тому +1

    for me the most obvious reason metroid prime4 is running on nintendo switch1 is: " We will be holding a Nintendo Direct this June regarding the NINTENDO SWITCH SOFTWARE lineup for the latter half of 2024, but please be aware that there will be NO mention of the Nintendo Switch successor during that presentation." (FURUKAWA WORDS) . if the title was running on switch2, we could sue nintendo.

  • @miami2881
    @miami2881 8 днів тому

    3:30 “People” that was you guys lol

  • @drumjod
    @drumjod 8 днів тому

    I'm so glad DF added Oliver to their team. Oliver has quickly become one of my favorites to listen to right up there with John.

  • @libardomm.trasimaco
    @libardomm.trasimaco 12 днів тому +1

    Great DF direct as always!

  • @nitaiginzburg8689
    @nitaiginzburg8689 10 днів тому +1

    From my most shelved console, the Switch went to be in recent years after buying the OLED model few years ago to the most used one. It really is all about exclusives in the end, and Switch got plenty of good ones.

  • @andrewpharr33
    @andrewpharr33 12 днів тому +1

    Sylux is the enemy in the MP4 trailer, and yes had a role in Hunters but was teased to be the antagonist if you 100% Prime 3 Corruption and watch the cutscene at the end, so they stuck with the plan and this is a continuation of the story they set up it seems.

  • @TheNamesJER
    @TheNamesJER 12 днів тому +3

    I couldn’t believe how good of a direct that was for a console that’s practically on its way out!

  • @Wiizpig
    @Wiizpig 12 днів тому

    Always the best, you guys

  • @bilditup1
    @bilditup1 11 днів тому

    Shougakukan is a famous book publisher there. The last time I heard of them in connection to games is Live Alive (the artists were signed with them or something?) but there’s a good chance they’ve had connections with other stuff as well

  • @CFM7
    @CFM7 12 днів тому +2

    Having Original Perfect Dark online is super rad. I realllyy hope the new xbox PD embraces the same depth of multiplayer as the original. Split Screen needs to return as AN OPTION

  • @vinheim
    @vinheim 12 днів тому +2

    I wonder if we'd get Metroid Prime 2 and 3 before 4 comes out. Given that it's a sequel it would be great, even if they're just ports and not full blown remakes like the first one.

  • @patrickfrost7488
    @patrickfrost7488 11 днів тому

    The physically made (and photographed/filmed) backgrounds is a technique used in a British made game called Lumino City by State of Play.
    They've done a lot of documentary work on how they filmed the transitions and recommend people check it out!

  • @icedcapplord710
    @icedcapplord710 12 днів тому +2

    I had to rewatch the Direct because I went into a state of shock after Marvel vs. Capcom collection got announced lol
    Overall really strong showing from Nintendo. 2D Zelda puzzler with Zelda herself actually looks like a lot of fun and I'm hyped as hell over new Mario & Luigi and Retro finally following up on nearly 2 decades of teasing Sylux for Prime 4. I'm still in disbelief over Children of the Atom MvC2 on modern systems, though

  • @Youtube-Censorship-Police
    @Youtube-Censorship-Police 11 днів тому +1

    thanks john, for mentioning the importance of level design, i'm sick of the open world concept since most devs have no clue how to design and "fill" it in an appealing way.
    yes there are exceptions like elden ring, gta or rdr, but most of them end up being a superficial & boring occupational therapy like your usual ubisoft blueprint.

  • @NetDive
    @NetDive 10 днів тому

    need more of these two together

  • @gornes2403
    @gornes2403 11 днів тому +3

    love that veeery subtle low key passive aggression/roasting of Alex at the beginning lol

  • @jesusvillafranca5714
    @jesusvillafranca5714 7 днів тому

    @19:55 Got a Morph 4K, what settings you recommend to se them at when using with the Switch to get the best video upscale experience? Thanks.

  • @justinchin0
    @justinchin0 12 днів тому +1

    Mvc collection was definitely my highlight! Wana take you for a ride 🎶🎵🎼

  • @erhanq.3070
    @erhanq.3070 12 днів тому

    Just want to do a small correction, GREZZO's hiring post for 2021 was also possibly for their Apple Arcade game last year, Jet Dragon

  • @syferz
    @syferz 11 днів тому

    1:08:53 After Xenoblade X and Last Story, they do have some 3DS, Gamecube and Wii games to pull from still, like A Link Between Worlds, Kid Icarus: Uprising, FZero GX, Samus Returns, Mario 3D Land, Galaxy 2, Punch Out, Prime 2, Prime 3, and then you have games that could be brought to 4K too, like Twilight Princess and Wind Waker. This is just the easy stuff I can think of, there is always the obscure stuff like Eternal Darkness as well.

  • @teo_ww
    @teo_ww 12 днів тому +1

    To John's point on Zelda: during gameplay Zelda doesn't have real time shadows like the rest of the assets, but rather a bottom circle. It maybe have to do with jumps and platforming reasons, or it may be corrected in the final release, but in the initial pan of the overworld she has real time shadows. Might be a precalc cutscene.

  • @matthewlong1978
    @matthewlong1978 12 днів тому +1

    This was clearly the only review of the Direct I was interested in 👍

  • @PositronCannon
    @PositronCannon 12 днів тому +1

    Regarding the comment about fan translations and questionable quality, the fan translation for Ace Attorney Investigations 2 is actually superb and could easily pass for an official localization. It's still great that they're bringing it officially, but the quality of the script was never really a concern.

  • @shinramiddlemanager7949
    @shinramiddlemanager7949 12 днів тому +1

    We need another DF Direct Special for the just announced Bubsy collection.

  • @Jenaxu
    @Jenaxu 11 днів тому

    Woo, was very pleasantly surprised to see this Nintendo Direct get a full DF Direct! I thought it might get relegated to next week's news. Next time you just need to have Tom on to make it the full Nintendo coverage trifecta lol

  • @rapzid3536
    @rapzid3536 11 днів тому

    Wish I could see the Prime 4 footage without UA-cam bitrate.

  • @joshmg1494
    @joshmg1494 12 днів тому +5

    Yeah Alex doesn't seem enthusiastic with most new titles recently. I feel for him being primarily a pc gamer myself but theres still a ton of cool things about older game engines I hope he finds something to love about that again soon.

    • @1meen1
      @1meen1 11 днів тому +1

      Mainly because most of the games are running UE4/5 and have issues. Then there's the case of some releases not being ambitious enough, and thus he's sitting on a heavily underutilized PC. I'm a console gamer, but you can here his frustration or disappointment in most of his tech reviews lately

    • @joshmg1494
      @joshmg1494 11 днів тому

      @@1meen1 I agree. I hope we get to see the day where shader compilation isn't an issue anymore.

  • @tanzolo4487
    @tanzolo4487 11 днів тому

    You 2 are the heroes the gaming industry need

  • @NetDive
    @NetDive 11 днів тому

    getting right to the point from the jump with addressing MP4 is why DF is the GOAT

  • @FelixS.
    @FelixS. 10 днів тому

    I think the transitiion from Bandai Namco to Retro during the Prime 4 restart included Retro alternating the original MP engine to make ground fast in development because Banda Namco surely had issues to capture the original MP looks and feel so Retro went back to the original engine and startet to alternate it instead starting from scratc. MP1 Remaster is a bycatch as a result. It clearly is a result from the MP4 development and they used it to buy some time with the MP fans.

  • @0dn4mr4
    @0dn4mr4 12 днів тому +2

    I love every direct where Olie is in it. He always have interesting thoughts and opinions

  • @timmygilbert4102
    @timmygilbert4102 11 днів тому

    Background in fantasia is photogrammetry

  • @hiotsobo
    @hiotsobo 12 днів тому +1

    Now let’s hope the MP2 and 3 remakes are true too to amp up for MP4!

  • @nrp5791
    @nrp5791 9 днів тому +1

    Question? If HD 2D is possibly played out, is Cel shading and 3D in general played out? 🤔

  • @d3rdunklelord
    @d3rdunklelord 10 днів тому +1

    Framerate dips were present in switch gaming since the very early release days with Breath of the Wild (partly patched). I really hope „Switch 2“ will be able to play switch games with enhanced fps rates.
    Nintendo games are nice, but they often make me dream of what could be if the hardware was better… and for third parties it is often too expensive to exclusively optimize and this will probably also not change 2-3 years down the road with a „Switch 2“.

  • @simpleton7
    @simpleton7 9 днів тому

    Baked lighting: 'Extremely Adequate'
    Link's Awakening remaster: 'Moderately OK'

  • @Paulypies
    @Paulypies 11 днів тому +1

    Last Night’s Direct with John (&) Oliver

  • @mattcy6591
    @mattcy6591 11 днів тому +1

    In an alternate universe where we got a Dreamcast 2

  • @cmak
    @cmak 11 днів тому

    need more John and Oliver DF content

  • @SamDLIVE
    @SamDLIVE 11 днів тому

    Awesome chat.