Very much still valid for a stable 60fps, if not because of a rushed unfinished title, or the engine, or ray tracing, or a very broken early access game, or new graphics cards too overpriced to upgrade to...
I was QA at Sega working on Full Auto 2. We weren't able to test 1080p because 1080p sets were so hard to come by at the time. We finally got one at the very end of the test cycle, but at that point in time all we could do was verify that it ran; we were only allowed to report critical errors.
I remember giving no_____ while playing cod3 on my brand new PS3 and having a BLAST in campaign as well as multiplayer... those were the times wen our brains knew only enjoyment.. they weren't corrupted by these extra info like FPS and all that... we hv cluttered our brains since then and hv forgot how we used to enjoy these games despite having these shortcomings.. which these so called intellectual youtubers show as very eww and something bad
I still enjoy playing 'butchered' PC ports on the PlayStation 1 and Sega Saturn that run at an 'unplayable' 15-18 FPS. I get the objective nature of reviewing tech and performance - and I'm really enjoying this video - but at the end of the day, if a game is fun, that is what matters. One example is Ridge Racer 7. It looks beautiful and is a true defining example of 1080p on the PS3.. but for me it cannot compete with Ridge Racer, Rage Racer, or RR Type 4 on the PS1. Or sticking with the same generation, it's not as fun as Sega Rally 07
Man this era of gaming was something else. My first ps3 game was Resistance Fall of Man and it was the first game that my dad who wasnt even a gamer, played from start to finish and even did a new game + run. We werent really close, especially when I was difficult in highschool, but to have something to share and talk about everytime he came to pick me up when school ended gave us something to look forward to. The same could be said about Gears of War on the xbox 360 and the call of duty games that came after.
I remember giving no_____ while playing cod3 on my brand new PS3 and having a BLAST in campaign as well as multiplayer... those were the times wen our brains knew only enjoyment.. they weren't corrupted by these extra info like FPS and all that... we hv cluttered our brains since then and hv forgot how we used to enjoy these games despite having these shortcomings.. which these so called intellectual youtubers show as very eww and something bad
Digital Foundry and John Linneman have done it again. EXCELLENT production and video on DF Retro, with this PS3 lookback, just like John's previous video of the PS1 launch and launch titles. John, TOP NOTCH content, worthy of being archived for "technological, historical gaming content".
@fd5927 there were 2 games during 2006 in this video which they both had 1080p and 60 but because they weren't triple A they don't get high scores so they recieved a lower score. The video continues that trend throughout. That is a subjective reason for a lower score where they meet the objective of the video but fail anyway?
@OniMirage My bad, I thought that the underlying ethos, and also the whole point of the video, was explaining that Sony promised and advertised the PS3 as being an HD 1080P gaming console, while in reality the GPU and subsequently shared ram was woefully sub-par, yet, there were at least "according" to John, at least "sixty", "60" games during the reign of the PS3 that matched that resolution or just matched it.
@@OniMirage I think it's a case of games like WipEout HD and Ridge Racer 7 looking as good as they do, WHILE hitting 1080/60, that John has factored in here. Let's say they ported the original Pac-Man to PS3 and it ran at 1080/60. Like, yeah, technically it's performing as well as WipEout, but would you score it the same?
I remember giving no_____ while playing cod3 on my brand new PS3 and having a BLAST in campaign as well as multiplayer... those were the times wen our brains knew only enjoyment.. they weren't corrupted by these extra info like FPS and all that... we hv cluttered our brains since then and hv forgot how we used to enjoy these games despite having these shortcomings.. which these so called intellectual youtubers show as very eww and something bad
@@liedevin4260 They killed the developer. Any new WipEout would be a complete different game. Same with Motorstorm/Driveclub. But they bought Bungie after this. Sony is the most stupid company ever. (beside EA)
Wow, two 3 hour plus video essays within a month, very impressive output. Plus the presentation and passing is top tier, thanks for this type of video.
It recycling old content for new ad revenue and its weird cos they hated capitalism a few weeks ago 😂 buy the merch an sub to patreon should be their catchphrase 😂
4K dream for PS4 Pro really. I got a 4K TV just because of that console smh. Still was worth it being that TVs don't have a resolution between 1080p and 4K so if you want to see more than 1080p, which the PS4 Pro did do as some games were in 1440p and even up to about 1800p or so, then you have to go with a 4K TV.
I rarely comment on any videos, but this one was just a delight to watch. I usually play long videos as background noise while I'm gaming, working or doing chores at home. But for this one I actually sat down for 3 hours and watched the whole thing. This is why you guys are the best at what you do
Only an hour in but wow this video is amazing so far… narrative structure, humor and intrigue with the x/1080p scoring system, throwback commercials this video has it all! What’s more is that it’s made me want to try PS3 again after only remembering the bad (tearing, input latency etc)
Unfortunately studios are all worried about maximum visual effects over resolution and definitely over framerates. Ubisoft back in the day literally put out a comment that said 60fps was a waste and not worth the video quality decrease, 30fps was more than good enough and actually better looking 😂. Idiots.
@@randybobandy9828 exactly this. For the last couple decades it's visual effects that's been pushed, and always beyond the actual capabilities of the hardware at the cost of resolution and performance. Sadly, the developers are not necessarily in the wrong here - most people will not notice or care about 60 vs 30 FPS or even lower, and even less about resolution. Heck, even DF here is pointing out the lack of advanced rendering techniques and plain look for games that DO hit 1080/60 - even if the game looks perfectly clean without them.
Video description - “This compilation video compiles up three DF Retro episode into a single, 197 minute marathon. It's the biggest Digital Foundry video we've ever made.” Comments- “Isnt this a reupload?”
NBA Street Homecourt was my first 360 game, and it blew me away. For me it was at the same level as Bioshock, GOW and HL 2. Great game, amazing style, superb art direction - the full package!!! Great that you rereviewed it after all these years.
This is a certified classic DF series. I've watched it in the individual parts probably around 5 times, and I'm definitely going for another run now that it's in a compilation. Would love to see more videos with a similar topic about other consoles.
I remember when PS4 era started, they said 1080p@60fps was going to be the standard. I hope to see a video similar to this one looking for 1080p@60fps games for the PS4
Yeah it felt trully premium because HD and media centers were such a futuristic thing. Being able to store images, music and videos (with the cool thumbnail previews) was a thing to behold.
ive already watched all three of these twice each and now it's time to watch all of them again now that the supercut's out shoutout Digital Foundry for making the perfect type of content to eat dinner and fall asleep to. absolutely fantastic comfort channel.
Hahah yeah for sure. The 80s still feel like 20 years ago to me mentally, so I get it. Haha in reality over 40 years ago at this point. Time.... time just marches forward man.
If I recall, the 360 did 1080p out of the gate but it did it through VGA. So you still had an analogue signal but not many PC monitors (or HDTVs) had support for 1920x1080 back in 05.
If you meant that the 360 came with the capability of throwing out 1080p at launch, sure, but they never truly achieved it, at least until they saw Sony introducing an HDMI slot to PS3. Plus, VGA never truly threw out 1080p. Even then, most games in the 7th gen era were made below 720p in mind in order to push for a higher framerate anyway.
I am still using my 1080p plasma from 2013. When downsampling to 1080p from 1620p via DLDSR, games look perfectly sharp and jaggy free. Motion clarity is perfect. No reasons to upgrade.
That Sonic CD music of Tidal Tempest after the presentation of the PS Quadruple fits like a glove... Thanks for these amazing coverages you guys make, quite interesting stuff and very well documented.
Wipeout HD was easily the most impressive 1080p game on PS3 for me. I played it on a 1080p Samsung and it was so crisp, fast and beautiful. If only most current games were as well developed and as polished as that game.
Wipeout HD w/ the Fury expansion was truly one of my favorite games on the PS3 (I like that version more than even the Omega Collection port done on the PS4) because not only did I get to play one of my favorite racing genres in complete visual clarity, but also because I was able to use music stored on the console as the game’s soundtrack and as an enjoyer of instrumental indie and post rock (Mogwai by far being my favorite band), those tracks in the Zone mode with the track going to the beat of the music I was playing made the visual presentation that much better. The Omega Collection unfortunately got rid of this aspect which made that version inferior by far to me.
@@Joostinonline Nintendo is taking too long to release the switch 2, by the time they release it on 2025 it would be only a year before Microsoft release their next gen console if they launch it in 2026 and we may see the ps6 in 2027 making the switch 2 a generation behind just like the wii u was when the ps4/xbox one were out
@@randyrrs7028 you realize they've always been a generation (at least) behind, right? The Switch and Wii were massively successful, despite being entirely non-competitive.
@Joostinonline yes, the wii was successful but the wii u wasn't, the switch was successful and that doesn't mean the switch 2 will be a guaranteed success
Tremendous work John, what a trip through time this was to experience. I’ve even purchased some of the titles (nba street home court and virtua tennis 3) due to your covering of them! PS3 is a great system, would be so interested to see a 360 video at some point
@@casualcadaver $600 was insane. Also WiFi wasnt that great, only competitive gaming you wanted wired connection. Xbox had a "built in HDD" but it was detachable.
The 20GB HDD was only part of the more expensive 360 ($599 PS3 had a 60GB HDD). By the time you added in the HD-DVD drive ($199) and the WiFi adapter (PS3 had both wired and wireless built in), not to mention no HDMI… The 360 was a good console, but it ended up being more expensive if you wanted all the tech the PS3 offered.
Let’s also keep in mind Sony also had the CECHB variant without Wi-Fi connectivity and only a 20GB HDD (still had Ethernet) for I believe $100 less but was still in every way the same as the A variant otherwise. Also, as I understand it the insane cost of the launch models was mainly due to the console having full-on PS2 hardware on the same motherboard for near complete backwards compatibility with PS1 and PS2 discs.
Been buying up ps3 titles like crazy recently and been playing them. Its great playing $7-15 for a game instead of $60-70. So many great games so little time.
its just old videos but 3in1? like you said about ps5 and 60fps - this is a choice. same here. they could make all games in 1080p. but the market and gamers wanted to see something else. for example,visuals on par with rival. and not Wii in 1080p)
When you guys talk about other reviewers scores for games in the future, we would like you to convert them to a value out of 1080. It's much easier to understand how good they are.
Oh man I can’t wait to watch this!! I JUST finished refurbishing my slim, adding an SSD, and jailbreaking it. I haven’t played Super Stardust HD in over 10 years lol. Also, per a previous video, I ordered the Motorstorm complete edition and Apocalypse. So fun!
Some say we are still chasing that 1080p dream to this day...
Especially on Switch 🤭
😂😂😂
Very much still valid for a stable 60fps, if not because of a rushed unfinished title, or the engine, or ray tracing, or a very broken early access game, or new graphics cards too overpriced to upgrade to...
yes, a lot of games are upscaled these days, fsr balance which is being used a lot is sub 1080p
Series S
I was QA at Sega working on Full Auto 2. We weren't able to test 1080p because 1080p sets were so hard to come by at the time. We finally got one at the very end of the test cycle, but at that point in time all we could do was verify that it ran; we were only allowed to report critical errors.
On the upside - this is the first Sony system that allows games to be patched … for better or worse
I remember giving no_____ while playing cod3 on my brand new PS3 and having a BLAST in campaign as well as multiplayer... those were the times wen our brains knew only enjoyment.. they weren't corrupted by these extra info like FPS and all that... we hv cluttered our brains since then and hv forgot how we used to enjoy these games despite having these shortcomings.. which these so called intellectual youtubers show as very eww and something bad
I still enjoy playing 'butchered' PC ports on the PlayStation 1 and Sega Saturn that run at an 'unplayable' 15-18 FPS.
I get the objective nature of reviewing tech and performance - and I'm really enjoying this video - but at the end of the day, if a game is fun, that is what matters.
One example is Ridge Racer 7. It looks beautiful and is a true defining example of 1080p on the PS3.. but for me it cannot compete with Ridge Racer, Rage Racer, or RR Type 4 on the PS1. Or sticking with the same generation, it's not as fun as Sega Rally 07
@@kill3rbyysightSome people can get vomit inducing feeling and motion sickness from low fps, so "enjoyment" is very subjective.
@@iowa6646I've never met a real life person who has those issues, only people on the internet
Man this era of gaming was something else. My first ps3 game was Resistance Fall of Man and it was the first game that my dad who wasnt even a gamer, played from start to finish and even did a new game + run. We werent really close, especially when I was difficult in highschool, but to have something to share and talk about everytime he came to pick me up when school ended gave us something to look forward to. The same could be said about Gears of War on the xbox 360 and the call of duty games that came after.
I remember giving no_____ while playing cod3 on my brand new PS3 and having a BLAST in campaign as well as multiplayer... those were the times wen our brains knew only enjoyment.. they weren't corrupted by these extra info like FPS and all that... we hv cluttered our brains since then and hv forgot how we used to enjoy these games despite having these shortcomings.. which these so called intellectual youtubers show as very eww and something bad
ps3 being retro doesn't feel right... then you realize it's been almost 20 years since it launched
Oh God...
Xbox 360 is almost 2 years older and is 19 year old this year as it launched in 2005.
OMG!
Bro I didn't need to feel this old today
goddammit
Remember, it was @1080p on 256MB of VRAM... How insane!!
And now with 16GB memory e many Teraflops, PS5 e Series X struguling to reach 1080/60fps
@@noobdebusca1757that’s not true though.
And only an handfull of games ran at full 1080p resolution.
@@noobdebusca1757 Huh? It's not though. Many native 4K and 60fps games, many 1440p games, many 120hz games too.
@@noobdebusca1757 this is just dishonest
Watching a 1080 special in true 4k to be as balln' as possible.
Digital Foundry and John Linneman have done it again. EXCELLENT production and video on DF Retro, with this PS3 lookback, just like John's previous video of the PS1 launch and launch titles. John, TOP NOTCH content, worthy of being archived for "technological, historical gaming content".
As long as you ignore the subjective reasons for lower scores, then yeah, it's a decent, if not falsely, portrayed video.
Subjective reasons for lower scores. Umm ... right .... Umm, Ok .... I'm not sure we're reacting to the same video.
@fd5927 there were 2 games during 2006 in this video which they both had 1080p and 60 but because they weren't triple A they don't get high scores so they recieved a lower score. The video continues that trend throughout. That is a subjective reason for a lower score where they meet the objective of the video but fail anyway?
@OniMirage My bad, I thought that the underlying ethos, and also the whole point of the video, was explaining that Sony promised and advertised the PS3 as being an HD 1080P gaming console, while in reality the GPU and subsequently shared ram was woefully sub-par, yet, there were at least "according" to John, at least "sixty", "60" games during the reign of the PS3 that matched that resolution or just matched it.
@@OniMirage I think it's a case of games like WipEout HD and Ridge Racer 7 looking as good as they do, WHILE hitting 1080/60, that John has factored in here.
Let's say they ported the original Pac-Man to PS3 and it ran at 1080/60. Like, yeah, technically it's performing as well as WipEout, but would you score it the same?
Smart to upload this as a whole; brings in new people who didn't see all three parts in the past or even completely missed it.
Crazy how great Wipeout HD still looks, even modern futuristic racers like Pacer and Redout II don't quite manage to look this sleek IMO.
Yeah Wipeout HD felt like the absolute cutting edge of what was possible graphically at its time. You rarely see something like that nowadays
We need a new Wipeout, come on Sony !
I remember giving no_____ while playing cod3 on my brand new PS3 and having a BLAST in campaign as well as multiplayer... those were the times wen our brains knew only enjoyment.. they weren't corrupted by these extra info like FPS and all that... we hv cluttered our brains since then and hv forgot how we used to enjoy these games despite having these shortcomings.. which these so called intellectual youtubers show as very eww and something bad
@@liedevin4260 They killed the developer. Any new WipEout would be a complete different game. Same with Motorstorm/Driveclub. But they bought Bungie after this. Sony is the most stupid company ever. (beside EA)
PS3 gets 3 hours, now you can make a 4 hour PS4 version. Great video, time flew by.
When the PS24 comes out 💀.
Wow, two 3 hour plus video essays within a month, very impressive output. Plus the presentation and passing is top tier, thanks for this type of video.
This one's a compilation of something they did a few years ago. At least last year anyways.
These type of videos only exist to milk old content
@@alumlovescake I mean, it's nice to have it all in one place. I usually make director cuts of my old series now to help declutter.
It recycling old content for new ad revenue and its weird cos they hated capitalism a few weeks ago 😂 buy the merch an sub to patreon should be their catchphrase 😂
His last couple videos have been reuploads for some reason.
See you in 18 years for 4k dream for PS5.
well there are a few 4K titles on PS5 just not many and 1 is internally rendered at 8K but it's a simple game...
You could even box PS4 and 5 there in one go lmao
4K dream for PS4 Pro really. I got a 4K TV just because of that console smh. Still was worth it being that TVs don't have a resolution between 1080p and 4K so if you want to see more than 1080p, which the PS4 Pro did do as some games were in 1440p and even up to about 1800p or so, then you have to go with a 4K TV.
Moreso hoping for a 120fps dream video
@@SomniaCE yeah I think that's more likely to be an outlier than 4k
The Ratchet & Clank HD collection has a hidden 1080p mode too if you deselect 720p first.
That's something I didn't ever notice until I put on the Elgato Capture Card. Probably because the games were from PS2.
I rarely comment on any videos, but this one was just a delight to watch. I usually play long videos as background noise while I'm gaming, working or doing chores at home. But for this one I actually sat down for 3 hours and watched the whole thing. This is why you guys are the best at what you do
Some of Jon’s greatest work, I love this so much. 1080/1080 video.
Ignored the subjective reasons for lower scores too?
It's a reupload though. But I loved it 🙂
1080/1080 P's***
@@OniMirage Honestly most of his scores made sense to me. A few outliars with him commenting on artstyle, but otherwise it's fine.
One of the best parts of the video was hearing some of this great music that I hadn't heard in years! Nice Job!
Only an hour in but wow this video is amazing so far… narrative structure, humor and intrigue with the x/1080p scoring system, throwback commercials this video has it all! What’s more is that it’s made me want to try PS3 again after only remembering the bad (tearing, input latency etc)
Hello John, your ambitious work is outstanding! I watched the video in one sitting, it was amazing. Thank you very much for this one 🤟🏻
It’s a reupload of 3 previous videos in one package.and it is good.
What's up with the Spider man sign?
@@adriantrusca1245Rock N' Roll
great work on this video - watched the whole thing. Truly honored to be able to watch a production like this.
Y’all need to do a sequel for PS4 Pro for “4k”!
Could do it for "8k" on series x as well
@@trumpflavourednugget9325 I mean a short sure haha.
And Xbox Series S for "1440p" and RT and PS5 and Series X for "8K"
Oh and Switch nowadays with "720p Portable and 1080p docked"
800p on the steam deck and 1080p on the rog ally. Would be a fun sort of video. Or 1600p on the legion go.
There are plenty PS4 games that ran at native 2160p on PS4 pro.
Source: "DF Videocast #8: Every Native 4K 60fps PS4 Pro Game Tested!"
It's been almost 20 years and we still are waiting for that 1080p@60fps console dream...
Unfortunately studios are all worried about maximum visual effects over resolution and definitely over framerates. Ubisoft back in the day literally put out a comment that said 60fps was a waste and not worth the video quality decrease, 30fps was more than good enough and actually better looking 😂. Idiots.
@@randybobandy9828Motion Blur is the reason it looked somewhat ok. I think motion blur is the worst thing for game visuals
@@randybobandy9828 exactly this. For the last couple decades it's visual effects that's been pushed, and always beyond the actual capabilities of the hardware at the cost of resolution and performance. Sadly, the developers are not necessarily in the wrong here - most people will not notice or care about 60 vs 30 FPS or even lower, and even less about resolution.
Heck, even DF here is pointing out the lack of advanced rendering techniques and plain look for games that DO hit 1080/60 - even if the game looks perfectly clean without them.
@@randybobandy9828
Don't most PS5 and Series X games not run at much higher resolutions than 1080p?
@@phillipimran7377Not at 60. Performance modes often reconstruct from 720p or lower.
Plugged in my ps3 for the first time in years to buy Daytona & VF2. Thanks for the reminder John.
This was a dream video! So glad you made the time for this. Very enjoyable.
Video description - “This compilation video compiles up three DF Retro episode into a single, 197 minute marathon. It's the biggest Digital Foundry video we've ever made.”
Comments- “Isnt this a reupload?”
Speaking personally, the app I use doesn't show the description. It's only because of your comment that I can see that information.
Sure but there are even more comments of people who think this is a new video.
lack of content on this channel, just people talking shit really about outdated games or zooming on screen and saying something about anti aliasing.
Ngl I was confused but ty for pointing this out. Didn’t check the description lol
Thanks for your hard work making this, and the PS2 launch one last week. Enjoying immensely
Ridge Racer 7 still looks stunning! Remember playing it in my local game store in the UK and being absolutely blown away…
Digging the Human Revolution background music in the first few minutes.
Time to keep watching
Man, wasn't expecting to hear Admiral Hackett talking about the PS3 CPU
Just needed a “Hackett Out” at the end.
The mix of marketing milestones of the PS3 lifecycle and the game reviews made this video a lot of fun to go through.
NBA Street Homecourt was my first 360 game, and it blew me away. For me it was at the same level as Bioshock, GOW and HL 2. Great game, amazing style, superb art direction - the full package!!! Great that you rereviewed it after all these years.
Please do more of these!!!
And keep it objective instead of subjective
Has it really been almost 20 years???? Holy crap does time fly
Great job John... absolutely brilliant!!
You can tell on Johns face (beard) that the video isn't recent. ^^
This is a certified classic DF series. I've watched it in the individual parts probably around 5 times, and I'm definitely going for another run now that it's in a compilation. Would love to see more videos with a similar topic about other consoles.
no way DF just dropped a 3hr video to fill my saturday
This is an absolutely incredible video. So much work john. Well done
It’s a reupload of 3 separate videos he already made.but it is still good.
I remember when PS4 era started, they said 1080p@60fps was going to be the standard. I hope to see a video similar to this one looking for 1080p@60fps games for the PS4
Amazing work John, love these longform videos! These are so relaxing to watch and listen.
Playstation 3 felt so premium , no other console gave me that wow factor out of the box.
I know exactly where you coming from it was a day 1 buy for me
@@billyburgess3912 bro paided them 599
Yeah it felt trully premium because HD and media centers were such a futuristic thing. Being able to store images, music and videos (with the cool thumbnail previews) was a thing to behold.
@@Chevelle3_ £425 ,worth every penny ,stand alone blu ray players were that price , free online gaming
And the aesthetics looked amazing for the time.
Great converage John and a brilliant compilation, loved having it on in the background while I was working.
More than 3 hours of Digital Foundry goodness! Thanks for putting so much effort into your content.
ive already watched all three of these twice each and now it's time to watch all of them again now that the supercut's out
shoutout Digital Foundry for making the perfect type of content to eat dinner and fall asleep to. absolutely fantastic comfort channel.
I agree, this is a masterpiece of a DF Episode ! I love it !
Your music choices in these videos are always so good:)
wow, wipeout looks good. shows how important art design and rendering choices are
Wow! Great documentation! Appreciate the work invested in making this.
Gotta stop telling people I managed at GameStop just a decade ago when I was there prior to this launch. 😵💫
Hahah yeah for sure. The 80s still feel like 20 years ago to me mentally, so I get it. Haha in reality over 40 years ago at this point. Time.... time just marches forward man.
Fine, I'll join
I love such videos remembering iconic moments from gaming history. Very relaxing.
I never knew where that PS Triple, that you always quote, came from! Now I know it's Chad Warden!
Took me a few episodes but I finally finished it. Thanks for the deep dive John
If I recall, the 360 did 1080p out of the gate but it did it through VGA. So you still had an analogue signal but not many PC monitors (or HDTVs) had support for 1920x1080 back in 05.
True
Sony was ahead of its time
If you meant that the 360 came with the capability of throwing out 1080p at launch, sure, but they never truly achieved it, at least until they saw Sony introducing an HDMI slot to PS3. Plus, VGA never truly threw out 1080p. Even then, most games in the 7th gen era were made below 720p in mind in order to push for a higher framerate anyway.
Came to this whole video just to see the Wipeout HD segment, bravo!
Started the video to see my most fave game Wipeout: AAAAND its there with in the frist 2 minutes none the less. PS3 era... good times!
What a tremendous work !
Love that kind of format, keep it going please !
I am still using my 1080p plasma from 2013. When downsampling to 1080p from 1620p via DLDSR, games look perfectly sharp and jaggy free. Motion clarity is perfect. No reasons to upgrade.
Same here, still gaming on my old 1080p tv
This is one of my favorite videos on UA-cam. Thank you for making this.
I could have sworn Ive seen this video before. Has to be a reupload
right ? I think it is 3 videos in 1 also
@@GmodArgentina you're right I do remember what I saw as being a 3 part video
Thank you for making a full video of all the previous DF Retro episodes on PS3 HD and PS1 launch ❤️
"Sony focused heavily on marketing 1080p" And yet, my launch PS3 came with a composite cable only ... 🙃
man DF Retro Marathon is such a nostalgia trip, i love it! :D
I’m down with these long uploads.
Killer video. So much good info, and so many great memories. Thanks!
Ah this video dropped the moment I launched MGS 4 on the PS3 which doesn't even run at 720p, amazing game though.
Great vid and fantastic editing ! As a long time viewer and follower I dig this.
2:49:47 1080pness... interesting word choice there
That Sonic CD music of Tidal Tempest after the presentation of the PS Quadruple fits like a glove... Thanks for these amazing coverages you guys make, quite interesting stuff and very well documented.
I miss the E3 of those days, staying up late and watching low res streams and enjoying memes of it all.
Did you also spend a lot of time on Gametrailers?
Amazing video and analysis. Thank you for your hard work!
Wipeout HD was easily the most impressive 1080p game on PS3 for me. I played it on a 1080p Samsung and it was so crisp, fast and beautiful. If only most current games were as well developed and as polished as that game.
It only took me a couple weeks, but I've actually finished watching the whole thing. Well done! Great video.
Wipeout HD w/ the Fury expansion was truly one of my favorite games on the PS3 (I like that version more than even the Omega Collection port done on the PS4) because not only did I get to play one of my favorite racing genres in complete visual clarity, but also because I was able to use music stored on the console as the game’s soundtrack and as an enjoyer of instrumental indie and post rock (Mogwai by far being my favorite band), those tracks in the Zone mode with the track going to the beat of the music I was playing made the visual presentation that much better. The Omega Collection unfortunately got rid of this aspect which made that version inferior by far to me.
great video, watched the whole thing, appreciate the attention to detail and the inclusion of the game soundtracks, thanks DF Retro!
Crazy how "next gen" consoles now upscale from below 1080p, how times have changed
Fantastic content. Thank you John and Digital Foundry team.
1080p is still great today
100%! Fun fact: some games in native 1080p looks better and cleaner than many "upscaled 4K" games 😅
@@МухаммедАли-б7дThere's not a single game that would look better at native 1080p compared to DLSS -> 4K
For real. Give it some good AA and it's plenty fine for me.
These retro marathons are super. Thanks a lot for your hard work!
John is absolute legend for content like this
As long as you ignore his subjective reasons for lower scores on some titles.
One of my favorite DFRetro series. Really inspired me to take the deep dive into the ps3 back in the summer of 2022
Fun fact:
Persona 5 released on the PS3 the same year as the PS4 and supported cross save.
Excellent documentation... I still can't believe I watched it all the way through ❤
12:02 this reminds me of Nano Assault Neo on the Wii U. It was one of the few games that really looked amazing and crisp on that console.
And the Switch 2 will most likely be upscaled 1440p docked and 1080p handheld, i highly doubt it will deliver 4k
@@randyrrs7028 Nobody said it would lol. The PS5 isn't anywhere near powerful enough for native 4k on modern games.
@@Joostinonline Nintendo is taking too long to release the switch 2, by the time they release it on 2025 it would be only a year before Microsoft release their next gen console if they launch it in 2026 and we may see the ps6 in 2027 making the switch 2 a generation behind just like the wii u was when the ps4/xbox one were out
@@randyrrs7028 you realize they've always been a generation (at least) behind, right? The Switch and Wii were massively successful, despite being entirely non-competitive.
@Joostinonline yes, the wii was successful but the wii u wasn't, the switch was successful and that doesn't mean the switch 2 will be a guaranteed success
Tremendous work John, what a trip through time this was to experience. I’ve even purchased some of the titles (nba street home court and virtua tennis 3) due to your covering of them! PS3 is a great system, would be so interested to see a 360 video at some point
HDMI
Blu-ray Player
Built in HDD
Built in WiFi
At launch.
Those were the reasons I went PS3 vs 360.
Bold 599$ price in 2007!!!!!!!! that was literally insane . Its too much for a console NOW imagine how much that was back then.
@@casualcadaver $600 was insane. Also WiFi wasnt that great, only competitive gaming you wanted wired connection. Xbox had a "built in HDD" but it was detachable.
The 20GB HDD was only part of the more expensive 360 ($599 PS3 had a 60GB HDD). By the time you added in the HD-DVD drive ($199) and the WiFi adapter (PS3 had both wired and wireless built in), not to mention no HDMI…
The 360 was a good console, but it ended up being more expensive if you wanted all the tech the PS3 offered.
@@tacojohnellenich why would anyone buy a fcking hd DVD player? Lmao
Let’s also keep in mind Sony also had the CECHB variant without Wi-Fi connectivity and only a 20GB HDD (still had Ethernet) for I believe $100 less but was still in every way the same as the A variant otherwise. Also, as I understand it the insane cost of the launch models was mainly due to the console having full-on PS2 hardware on the same motherboard for near complete backwards compatibility with PS1 and PS2 discs.
This video is fucking amazing work I love it and the DF crew/community 🙏🏼THANK YOU DF
Been buying up ps3 titles like crazy recently and been playing them. Its great playing $7-15 for a game instead of $60-70. So many great games so little time.
So you do, what PC gamers have since years
Such an insane undertaking, you are a madman John! Thanks for a trip (a multiday trip) down memory lane.
THREE HOURS?! ok...
Passion
This is a REAL tech content from professionals. Not for normies like you. now go away, shoo!!
@@kickazzdrummer666 how obnoxious
@@kickazzdrummer666 What's wrong with you?
@@alperen194 Yeah, I love it
I really enjoyed this video, brings back great memories! thank you for this production! keep up the good work
John giving Donkey Kong energy 🐵
What a fun concept, thanks John!
its just old videos but 3in1?
like you said about ps5 and 60fps - this is a choice.
same here. they could make all games in 1080p. but the market and gamers wanted to see something else. for example,visuals on par with rival. and not Wii in 1080p)
Great Work John!
Wasn't this an reupload? I remember seeing this last year
I got my UA-cam video set to 4k. I'm ready, John!
When you guys talk about other reviewers scores for games in the future, we would like you to convert them to a value out of 1080. It's much easier to understand how good they are.
again? there was another video with that content, right?
edit: okay i see it was part1 or something. Now the complete era/timeline of PS3.
Oh man I can’t wait to watch this!! I JUST finished refurbishing my slim, adding an SSD, and jailbreaking it. I haven’t played Super Stardust HD in over 10 years lol.
Also, per a previous video, I ordered the Motorstorm complete edition and Apocalypse. So fun!
MS-DOS Retro Marathon when?
By far the best pro saturn video I've seen , at 58 it's great to see some sega saturn love
Is this a reupload? I swear I saw this last year
Thank you for this awesome video! ♥