ND Filters EXPLAINED | Featuring PolarPro + Peter McKinnon Variable ND
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2019
- What are ND Filters? Why should you use them? How do you pick the best ND filter for your needs? In this video, we explore these wonderful tools and how they can be useful to you.
This video features ND filters from PolarPro including the brand new Peter McKinnon Variable ND filters and the Quartzline Cinema ND Filters. Thank you to PolarPro for sponsoring this video and providing the filters.
-Peter McKinnon Variable ND Filters-
82mm 2-5 stop - geni.us/PMVND82mm2-5
77mm 2-5 stop - geni.us/PMVND77mm2-5
67mm 2-5 stop - geni.us/PMVND67mm2-5
82mm 6-9 stop - geni.us/PMVND82mm6-9
77mm 6-9 stop - geni.us/PMVND77mm6-9
67mm 6-9 stop - geni.us/PMVND67mm6-9
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*Do you use ND filters? Fixed ones? Variable ones? Any tricks and tips to share?*
I don't use NDs🙈 I don't want to buy cheap ones but I don't have enough money for the PolarPro ones💁🏼♂️😂 If I could choose one, I'd take the 2-5 stop PMVND😂! It's awesome😍
That just means you have to be creative!!
Dunna Did It yeah, totally true!☺️
Can you make another video comparing these two KINDS of filters again. I purchased the quartz 8PL and 64PL on black Friday last year.. and i wanted to see if i should stick with what I got . I do vids and take pics. I think i would have purchased the Variable ND first, but I think I like the feature of having the polarizer added. I think an in-depth vid would help.. thanks.. I dont want to turn into a gear head.
Cool! I’ll definitely take that into consideration for a future video!
This was definitely the best explanation of how ND filters work. I've seen over 12 videos trying to explain it and yours has been the best.
Wow! Thanks so much!
Same
The more I get into photography the more I discover expensive things I need to buy =((
same here! I just bought $50 nd filters 😂😂. I bought it in a local shop so atleast it help them
Which is more expensive? Photography gear or studio gear for musicians and studio engineers/producers etc?
true
I feel You man. I just bought my first camera (cheap sony a6000 but hardly used). After many videos I desire some 85mm prime lens which costs twice as much as my cam. And that's the beggining. I should look for a less expensive hobby.
😆😆🤣🤣
Yes, Dunna, you did it. Your little tip on how to figure out how many stops of ND I need have literally helped me far greater than half the tutorials about VNDs there are on YT.. and I've watched them all... or so it feels. Thank you!
Thats awesome! Thanks for letting me know!
This was well put together. I like that there were actual comparisons with other ND Filters and that you were using the 6-9 stop version of the PMVND which is the real test of how image quality holds up at 9 stops.
Thanks so much Tyrone! I agree, I was so impressed when I cranked it all the way up to 9 stops and the image still looked so well.
wow. you absolutely crushed this explanation video on ND filters, great job!! Best walk-through on UA-cam!
This is the best explainer on ND filters I've seen. Thanks Dunna!
Thanks a ton Greg! Glad you liked it!
Up until watching this video, I had no idea what ND filters were - a lot of references to such in comments section of several videos, without any context. Now, I understand quite a lot about them, enough to shop for and put to practical use anyways. Thanks. That's what I really like about this video - concision and precision. Have a blessed day.
Thanks so much for the kind words! I’m glad you learned lots!
I love how you explain stuff! I had a very general understanding, but now I feel MUCH more confident using my new VND filter!
I have seen many videos on this filters and what they can do. Your explanation is on point, the end results are incredible.
That’s so nice to hear! Thank you Obie!
Finally thank you! At least someone showed a slight example of whether this thing color shifts. We need more tests like that to show if this thing is consistent with color and how it effects gamma/contrast, hues, etc.... my breakthrough fixed solid nds are very accurate in terms of hues and contrast.
Thanks so much Ben! I’m sure those videos are all coming from someone 😁
Dang, dropping heavy knowledge on a Monday. Thanks for speaking out and get things nailed about ND filters!
Thanks a ton! Just wanted to bring some light to the subject... or some dark?
@@dunnadidit Yupp, you did it!
This is just a hella long commercial 😅
Best video I've seen on ND filters! Not only was it educational but also very fun to watch, thank you for sharing!
Thanks so much for the kind words!
The examples toward the end of the vid are super helpful! Not a lot of people will follow up with examples after explaining things. Subscribed my friend!
That’s great to hear Rick! Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!
this is the best photography video ever, the music, the videos, pics, everything, just amazing great job
Thank you Daniel!
One thing to add, that I learned today, is step up rings (yes I am a Photography newb). These allow you buy one large size ND filter and buy the much cheaper step up rings to fit all your lenses. This would be one thing I would add to this video.
Great stuff, I learned so much from this and your exposure triangle video! Thanks again for your hard work!
That’s an excellent point! In fact I have 77mm filters and everything I shot in this video used step up rings since my largest lens has a 72mm thread!
Glad you enjoyed the video! I appreciate your kind words.
Exactly what I’ve been thinking. I need to plan ahead for the largest size.
Hands down best video on ND filters! Great content. Keep it up brother!
Thanks so much Mike! I appreciate it!
Thanks brother finally someone who explains it like I'm a two year old!
Happy to help!!
This is an awesome video. I'm not using ND Filters at the moment but I'm sorely tempted now! Thanks dude.
My pleasure! Thanks so much for watching!
Thank you for the clear explanation on how these filters work and your workflow using them! Will be a big help when I decide to get one
PMVND!!!??? Sounds like a new Wandrd bag concept man! lol. Great video! VND's make run and gun video life so much easier. Love your thumb and nicely articulated talking points. That little 1/3rd stop count hack to know what ND to apply is also super helpful.
HELPFUL! that's what this video is!
Haha it totally does! “Just one sec, I gotta make sure I got my PMVNDs in my PRVKE”
Thanks brother! I’m glad you found it HELPFUL!
Great video! I currently used fixed ND filters, but I'm definitely tempted by the variable ones you showed in this video.
Thanks so much! Definitely a great investment if it’s in your budget!
I know this video isn't older but it is a game changer for me. Thanks!
Glad to hear it Brian!
Finally I understood how to pick up an ND filter, thanks for the tip and the technicality with real world case of use
As always great informative video on ND Filters, I just purchased the variable and the 82mm ND1000 Camera Filter (10-Stop Neutral Density Filter)!
That is a great explanation, this is what precisely what I'm looking for. Thank you so much for your video.
Great explanation of variable ND filters. Concise and helpful -- thanks Dunna!
My pleasure! Thanks so much for watching!
This is about the Most useful video I have ever watched
Great Job Dunna
Best regards, Rick
Thanks so much Rick! That means a lot!
Thank you for all the info and thank you for not being boring. Love watching your videos.
Thanks Jennifer! I really appreciate it! I will continue on my quest to entertain while I educate 😉😋
@@dunnadidit there are so many channels but I can't watch the majority of them because they don't capture me. Your videos are definitely informative AND entertaining 👍👍😁
Thank you so much!!
This video was great. It explained everything (and then some) i wanted to know about ND filters for video making. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Very well explained and helpful video. Thank you.
I remember in the day buying a Cheap VND filter and as I would turn it at certain stops,
it would cast a horrible vignette or "X" across the entire video (Not very smooth looking and I wasted $89)
So I quickly learned that you "Get what you pay for"
Putting Premium filters in front of my expensive glass just makes sense and now that I bought premium filters my photos and videos look awesome
So my advice to anyone who thinks that there's no difference between a $89 VND and a $289 VND.................Think again
I currently own a complete set of NISI 4x4 V5 pro Filter system ($800 worth) and they just work...........again you get what you pay for ;-)
Thanks, Dunna for this great explanation on VND's........and Thanks to Petter McKinnon for helping make awesome products for us to use
I really hate to see people waste money on cheap junk when for a couple hundred more they could have the best quartz Glass on the market
Best regards, Rick
Great advice Rick! I experienced the same thing... and even the $200 filter that I showed in the video gives me the X at the darkest point, which means I can really only use 70% of its function. And I was excited about that one because it even had the hard stops that I assumed would stop me from getting that far.
I'm gunna wait for the Dunnadidit Variable ND Filter :)
DDIVND coming 2025?
@@dunnadidit nah fam 2020
Haha I gotta get on it I guess
better yet make variable ND with CPL. One step above PMVND :)
Haha I don’t even know if that would work! But I love it!
Oh great simple video, with not a second to skip, thanks.
Thanks so much!
Finnally someone put it on the camara and move it around lol... I know you use 6-9 for photography, Ive been trying to figure out what its better for photography purposes, it helpe a lot!! Thank man
The best explanation. Thank you.
CAN WE JUST APPRECIATE THAT PMVND ACTUALLY CAUGHT ON 👏
Thank you ☺️
Thank you for the video, I could definitely understand better here about the stops and calculation
I keep replaying this video to hear him say "PMVND". ITS SO SATISFYING 😌
Haha I always feel like I should start beatboxing when I say it
Good general overview on why ND Filters and some use cases - which so many miss in their video blogs. I have some old ND filters from years ago that don't fit my newer lenses, I need to consider what steps to take, thanks as always for the clear explanation and the time you take to put these informative posts together. Always helpful. :-)
Thanks a ton Chuck! Regarding your new lenses: are the new lenses bigger in diameter?
@@dunnadidit One is a 77mm so I can use my old NDs, but some of the newer ones are Sigma 135mm which needs an 82mm filter, and the Sigma 35mm which needs a 67mm. Sigh. :-)
Ah darn! Well step up rings work great when the filter is bigger than the lens, but I don’t think step downs will work too well in most cases.
Thank you so much for sharing this video with us. God bless you! 😊🔥👍🏻
thanks for video, it was helpful
Isn't it funny the thumbs down warriors have not bother posting a comment? Lol even they know this is an amazing, well prepared, detailed video that provides a lot of information, comparison and knowledge. They are just upset that 1 it's a pricy ND and 2 you got it for free.
People needs to realize how much work you have put in to get here. A success is rewarded in public for a hard work which one puts in private.
As always great video Dunna. Can't wait to get my 6-9 PMVNDF
Thanks so much brother! I appreciate the positivity and I’m glad you liked the video. Can’t wait for you to see how awesome the filter is!
It's annoying but it's "situation normal" for UA-cam. If I ever give a thumbs down I leave an explanation why, which invariably leads to lots of troll responses from fanbois of the presenter, so I guess I can now see why people don't add explanations for their thumbs down.
Where these Polar Pro filters are concerned, I can understand people being fed up of "reviews" of product that are not reviews at all. I've spent 3 hours trying to find a genuine "review" of the filters and all I've gotten is endless shill adverts from people who'v got sent the stuff for free. It's hilarious how so many of them start with the self-righteous declaration that they weren't paid to "review" the items. Dude, you were sent 600 dollars worth of goods to keep. How is that not "getting paid"? No wonder the items are so over-priced. Customers are paying for what seems to be an incredibly high number of free product sent to "influencers" on top of the cost of having a UA-cam "influencer"'s name physically printed all over the product.
That being said, I personally gave this video a thumbs up because, as you say, it's very well put together and contains lots of useful information around use of ND filters. I just wish someone on UA-cam would do a genuine review - ie one that compares this product with much lower priced alternatives that appear to do the same job just as well.
Ian - you have great timing for this comment actually, Gerald Undone just did a huge roundup and dropped it yesterday!
ua-cam.com/video/mL-BxhQvdIE/v-deo.html
@@dunnadidit Truth is I went and ordered the filters anyway. I'm overall happy with my purchase and it's reassuring in many ways to see Gerald come out in favour, although my reading of his review is that actually the B+W filters are about the same price (possibly slightly cheaper) and do as good, if not marginally better, job. Very hard for Gerald to state that up-front because Polar Pro have not just sent him the filters to test but agreed to pay for all those he tested against, and it would be plain bad manners! I DO like the feel of these filters and the quality, but if someone had told me when I bought my Canon 5D IV that I'd be spending a quarter of the price I paid for a couple of filters to slap on the lens I wouldn't have believed them, so I can understand the incredulity of those who aren't happy with the pricing.
Johnny
1. This wasn’t a product review and I never claimed it to be, so anyone’s thoughts on my bias of the product really have no relevance(I appreciate that you put “review” in quotations). It was a video where I explained the uses of ND filters and gave some tips for people who might not know about them. The paid sponsored part was that I used and explained some of the PolarPro filters’ features. I did mention that I like the product a lot... which I do, if you don’t think that pet was true, that’s ok... you’re allowed to think what you want.
2. That tweet about the google pixel was just a joke about how many posts I had seen, I thought the joke pet was pretty obvious when I said that they sent me a jar of pickles... which they obviously didn’t.
I’m sorry you view all of this in such negative light. I do try to see the positive and constructive side of people’s feedback and criticism so I’ve taken some things from your comments for sure, but it does make me sad that you think that creators like me aren’t trying to benefit our audiences. Everything I do on my channel goes through a filter of “how is this beneficial for my viewers” Sometimes, me getting free things means I can do reviews that benefit viewers. Sometimes companies want to pay me to talk about their product, in which case I try to do an overview of the product and include information on how to best use it... still beneficial for my viewers. I’m well aware that I’m trying to get something out of all of this but it’s definitely not completely selfish... I like to believe other creators (the ones that I know) are the same. There is no conspiracy to trick the audience. We’re just trying to get ahead while also helping others get ahead. I do appreciate that you said this was one of the better videos you saw. But in the end, bias is everywhere... as humans we can’t stop it really. If someone smiles at me I might think they are a nice person, that’s me creating bias. The trick here is that, as consumers, we just need to keep that in mind when we research and factor what we think and believe is happening in front of us. If you think that a reviewer is lying based on being getting a product, then keep that in mind before you buy.
This comment is way too long and I’m babbling. I should just make a video. Thanks for taking the time to chime in. I appreciate it.
Nice video . Short without trying to sell something and explaining everything very clearly
Thank you!
Great video as always Dunna!
Thanks so much! I’m so stoked for you, I hope you love them as much as I do!
Jesus Christ, after looking through so many videos explaining how to use ND Filters and never getting it 😖.....your video by far simplifies it 👍 bring on the ND Filters now 😁📷....kudos!!! ✌
Nice! Glad to hear!
Ahh, nice hook up from polar pro! Nice video man, I feel like I’m repeating myself 😂
Haha, repeating positivity is a good thing though!
that was insanely helpful. thanks mate ! subscribed cuzzy
Glad to hear it!!
Edmontonian here, great video, new to videography but love your content!
Best explanation on ND filter 👍🏻💯🔥. I will buy PVMND for my 67mm lense. Thank you so much.
Thanks for explaining this!!!
I recognized it was filmed in Edmonton Alberta . Good video and very educational.
Awesome content man. Thanks for the tips! This'll help my new channel, for sure. Liked and subscribed!
holy moly i just realized you're from Edmonton. Big fan big fan!
Great explanation, good job!
Thanks a ton Mark!
Such an eloquent teacher
I always learn so much from you man thank you
That’s great to hear! Thanks for watching!
Good stuff! You expanded nicely upon Peter's release video, and did it in a justifiable 8 minutes. Next is the YTMND filter, which adds a variety of memes to your in camera images as you turn the ring.
Thanks Dave! I’m interested and nervous to know what YTMND stands for.
“You’re The Man Now, Dog” - haha it’s basically the birthplace of memes, but they usually had audio clips to go with them. Check out the Wikipedia on ytmnd lol
Uh oh... I foresee a lot of lost time coming soon lol 😂
Wow! So helpful. Thank you
You convinced me. Variable is the way to go.:-)
It’s super handy’
Wow. Thanks for this super helpful information!
Finally found something informative 🤩. And hey, u have the face cut of Peter Mck🤓
this was super helpful! thanks!
My pleasure!
Excellent, thank you
Great explanation. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!&
This is cool and really helpful 🙂 I'm going to get this kit that comes with 6 of them (and a lense cleaner lol) I thought the issue was me 😂😂 some of my photos were completely washed out (over exposed) when I tried to photograph water (lakes, rivers) and come to find out I just needed a filter. This explained a lot thank you 🙂📸🔍
Glad it was helpful!
What kit
Nice job buddy! Well done!
Thanks a ton friend!!
Steve here! THIS is the video that should've come out 3 days ago (and F-Stoppers, because they did a pretty good job with it as well). Awesome video and great explanation of the use of ND filters, and why my broke ass might want to purchase one.
If I had to choose, as currently my interest lay in more in photography, which version would be better for taking shots outside in bright sunlight, if I'm not trying to capture motion as well? Primarily looking at landscape; so static subjects.
Hey again Steve!
TLDR - if I had to guess, I'd say the 6-9 stop VND would be the most helpful for you. Anything less and you might not have actually needed one.
For Landscapes, without wanting to capture motion blur, you might not even really need one. Typically with landscapes, I want to be shooting at f8 or f11 to get the majority of the frame in focus. So right there, we've cut down a lot of light. Then if you aren't looking for a slow shutter time, you can crank it up to a super fast shutter speed to set exposure. All that said, as soon as you decide you want to open up that aperture to blur something in the foreground... you might be in trouble with hitting your highest shutter speed and having nowhere to go. I would do some tests if I were you... take that little trick that I showed for calculating how many stops of an ND filter you need and try it out next time you're shooting landscapes (it should work in 1/3 stops with aperture too so combine the shutter speed and aperture to get your calculation if you have to). Then you should be able to figure out approximately what range you need.... Also... because apparently, I have a lot to say about this... PolarPro has a nice guide to choosing between their fixed ND's on their website that might be helpful.
That was a very nice lesson.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Love it. Nice video
Thanks!!
Not sure why there are so many dislikes. This video was very informative and helpful! The PM ND filter is very overpriced but it looks like the best you can get which explains the high price tag. Just wait until Black Friday or Xmas to buy it
@hd edits, I'm sure the 20 dislikes are from people who saw the title and didn't actually watch.
Thanks for saying that! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I do think the value for what you get is on point though so I wouldn't call it "overpriced"... expensive? yeah sure... but I don't think its priced above its value... does that make sense? I also very much appreciate your approach to waiting for sales... very smart my friend.
@stephen - they judged my book by its cover!!
@@dunnadidit Your book has a fairly plain, black cover, how can they not like that? Oh.... you didn't mean that book....
HAHA black on black on black.
Super awesome vid.. What are your thoughts in regards to color shifting, if any. Is one ND filter better for that? Looking to buy a filter for my 70 -180 mm lens. I've used the Peter ND filter for my sony 16 - 35mm lens for over a year and haven't noticed the issue - but haven't look either hehe.. THNX
Edmontonian, smirked when I saw the bridges 🤙
Alright, am I the only one that feels when he takes us to school on something he needs to be wearing a lab coat with a chalk board behind him? Great vid bud
Haha that would actually be a funny little thing to do. “Hold on a sec, we’re getting to the learning part” *puts on lab coat and rolls in chalkboard
Awesome video, Dunna! Quick shout out to Sidney too, sucks to hear about all the rough comments. Give him a high five next time you see him!
Thanks so much! I definitely will. It’s going to be an epic meetup the first time I actually meet that guy in person haha!
Thanx sir got many tricks and tips
Always welcome
Great video. Been planning to buy ND filters. Did I hear you correctly that you are combining fixed ND and variable ND filters? Why? Cant you get the same results using the two variable filters?
with nd filters softening the overbloom and overhighlights, bringing out the detail in the sky and clouds, better dynamic range, etc. why would you never use it? ( besides for indoor/night time of course )
Thank you for putting this together Dunna! - Samuel
Thanks a lot for watching!
Great explanation 👏
Thank you!!
excellent review, subscribed
Thanks a ton! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Thank you so much for the explanation. However have you ever used PF for portraiture?
Not sure what you mean by PF? Polarizing filter?
Dude. Epic video!
Thanks Jack! I appreciate it!
Thank you!
Very helpful bro!
Thanks Nick! Glad you liked it!
Oppss, Dunna did it again?
Thanks for the 1 stop count tutorial as it is super helpful for me.
Glad it was helpful! Fun little trick hey!?
*i have a sony a6400 and a sigma 16mm f1.4 lens. I want to shoot a video in 30fps at the widest at f1.4. which variable nd filter do i need the 2-5 stops or the 6 to 9 stops? thanks in advance! i think you mentioned on the video the 6 to 9 stops but i just want you to confirm.*
When I shoot at f1.4 I usually go with the 6-9 stop. I’d say that’s your best bet!
@@dunnadidit *hows the video footage quality looks like tho compare to 2 to 5 stops? I noticed that the quality footage goes down when using the 6 to 9 stops is that true?*
PMVND 😂 👍 yes!
Already ordered ours!!!
Awesome! I’m sure your love them!
Hey Dunna. Thank you for the explanation! Especially the counting stops trick is useful to know. However, I'm not quite sure how to apply it to my system and was wondering if you could expand a bit more. The reason being: my camera also has a 1/48 and 1/96 shutter speed option.
Does the "3 moves = 1 stop" still apply to that?
Hey! Actually that does break up the rule a bit when your camera has those video centric shutter speeds. Unfortunately you just have to keep those in mind and remember that 1 stop is a doubling of shutter speed and find the closest shutter speed to that. So if you’re trying to shoot at 1/48th, one stop above that is 1/96, one above that is 1/192 etc hope that helps
@@dunnadidit Thank you for your answer!
So my system offers the option for the first 3 stops to have video centric shutter speeds: 48, 50, 60, 80, 96. Then 100, 120, 125, 160, (no 196), 200. Then 200, 240, 250, 320, 400 (although because the 196 is missing it “overlaps”) .. and from there it switches to 3 moves: 500, 640, 800.
I’m a bit confused as to how this would affect the counting. I guess 48-96 is 1 stop. But is 96-200 then 2? And then until 400 again 3?
Another question I have regarding this: what if the exposure would be correct at say a shutter speed of 1/80 or 1/125 instead of those full stops. How would that relate to the stops on the ND filter?
And then last but not least: I would like to buy the PMVND as well but I’m doubting which one would be best for me as I don’t have money for both. I shoot mainly outside in bright daylight, and I saw another video showing the differences between the two with the lens wide open. In that one, it seemed obvious for me to go with the 6-9. However, I usually don’t shoot wide open and if I’m not mistaken the lenses also have better quality 1-2 stops down. So with that in mind, maybe the 2-5 would actually be fine. What are your experiences on this, keeping this in mind and also the different shutter speeds I have, and which one would you recommend me to get?
Hoping you could help me a bit more. My apologies for all the questions .. I’m just getting started and trying to learn and understand the right methods.
Hey, the tatoo guy actually explained things well.
thanks for this
My pleasure!
Nice video! I mostly shoot video with sony 18-105mm f4 lens with 72mm size. Should I get the 82mm or the 77mm version? Is there any disadvantage of getting the biggest size (for possible savings for future)?
The only disadvantage is that it takes up more space but most people suggest getting the biggest just in case!
Thanks man, bought it through your link.
Awesome! Hope you enjoy!
@@dunnadidit thanks man, I have a question, are these two filters for video or can they be used for photography also, or could you please recommend a great filter for Street photography and portrait that saturates colors nicely? thanks
We need this for the live stream at my church
Very nice👍👍
Thanks a ton! Glad you liked it!
Thank you.
I can spot that beautiful downtown YEG skyline from anywhere. Love the thumbnail 👌 Which one do you end up using the most? I'm thinking of picking up the 2-5 stop one
I find I probably use the 6-9 more often and push my iso a bit. The alternative would be use the 2-5 more and either crank the shutter or the aperture.
Hello dunna thanks for this video man and i wish al the best. I was shooting with my canon and my drone a river and a mountain behide it and the sun was very close to the moutain the videos with both camera and drone were tottaly bad which nd filter do i use for this situation . I never bought nd filters till now man
Feeling that in the balance of an informative commercial IMHO this one tipped too far to being commercial.
Dunna why you did it, but maybe it's your experimental nature, which is why I've enjoyed your videos, thanks for this one too!
Hey Rahul glad you enjoyed the video. As I mentioned at the start, it is a sponsored video from PolarPro. So I definitely made sure to highlight the product. Hopefully there is also a decent amount of valuable information in there too... the response that I’ve received in general is that it’s quite informative too.