Also - there are passives from tree that give: passive skills give +55% increased energy gained => 10*(1+0.55+0.55) = 21 energy on crit =>5 hits required for 90 energy
I agree that based on the wording this loop should be possible. I am hoping that it would be possible to run multiple meta gems that synergize with each other. Assuming a crit still causes elemental ailments getting I could see a scenario where you use Elemental Invocation + Elemental Discharge to cause ailments and remove the ailments only for the loop to add it with a subsequent crit and more ailments. Mana will definitely be an issue if the trigger gems require it.
I'm not sure if you acknowleged it but most metagems (like this one) acts as "auras" and reserve spirit. I also suspect that the mana reservation rate on support gem is gonna affect that spirit reservation. It might become an interesting challenge to build around if this ends up as costing too much spirit for a six link or if this limits the other auras you might want instead.
@@FiatNyx i cant wait to find out! I am not sure if the spirit cost will scale, but if it does, then we will just need to build around it, or take it slow
Cast on crit + ember fusilade / volatile dead (fire spells casted trigger multiple summons raging spirits) Sumon raging spirits + infernal legion + minion instability (for cast on minion death) Sacrifice (reviving minions can be used as corpse sacrifices) Skeletal arsonist (sacrifices other living minions) Cast on minion death + Lightning storm Elemental Storm + Elemental doscharge Cast on minion death + lightning storm Elemental Storm + elemental discharge
@@joseluiscuervolopez-mora1814 seems like fun! You would need to drop one of the energy retention or elemental storm depending on the ascendency you pick
You start with self cast blade vortex or self cast lightning storm Cast on Crit Lightning storm: 15 hits in 6 second Inflicts 30 (shock+ignite at most) Elemental Storm activates on lightning storm hit: 2s cooldown 20 hits no crits (And no ailments) With Elemental discharge support: supported spell cannot inflict ailments Cooldown 1s Crit 10% Supported skills (elemental storm) consume ailments on hit to trigger discharge Elemental discharge - 6 hits in 6 seconds, 5 crits at 100% generates 90 energy over 6 seconds Lightning storm triggers again from 6 elemental discharge 40% cooldwon reduction: elemental discharge hits every 0.6 or 0.75 seconds from elemental storm: 4.5 seconds loop Problem: if the enemy moves from the elemental storm box, elemental discharge stops hitting.
The problem whit lightning storm, is that you need to wait the duration of the spell to trigger itself, i will go for spark with added projectile and pierce
Hey friend! I was also thinking about the possibility of looping. If that doesn't work, do you think it's possible to set up two separate configurations? One could be focused on "Cast on Crit" with three spells and a support gem to increase the chance of shocking, and the other could be "Cast on Shock" with three different spells, using increased critical chance. This will make the first setup trigger the other setup and visa versa. Additionally, we could leverage weapon swaps in this scenario, where the first weapon set maximizes crit chance, while the second setup boosts the chance of shocking. For the passive skill tree, the first set could focus on crit chance, while the second focuses on shock chance. Do we know if the weapon swap will happen automatically when using "Cast on Crit" with the first weapon set and "Cast on Shock" with the second weapon swap? It will really look funny if she spasm between those 2 weapon set.
@@gamerguy441 we dont know about the weapon swap yet, but i suspect it will work even if the animation does not show for meta skills. I also want to go the cast on crit elementalist ascendency to add to the combo. I cant wait to get in game and test. I suspect my first run through the game is going to be slow and super scuffed lol
Im thibking of doing something like gemling , stacking strength, casting arc with cast on crit proccing some physical spells. No idea if it will work but gaving fun daydreaming about it. I imagine early game will be awful though.
I see attack skills don't so that's a shame. While looking through the list I see raise shield is considered channeling. I wonder if it works with cast while channeling skill? Channeling skills are often weak due to lack of movement but it could work as a defensive? Hold shield up and during that time cast some utility like curses?
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I am very excited for the build possibilities that meta gems open up! Are you cooking anything up for POE2?
Check out armour piercing into negative from warbringer
Also - there are passives from tree that give: passive skills give +55% increased energy gained => 10*(1+0.55+0.55) = 21 energy on crit =>5 hits required for 90 energy
I agree that based on the wording this loop should be possible. I am hoping that it would be possible to run multiple meta gems that synergize with each other. Assuming a crit still causes elemental ailments getting I could see a scenario where you use Elemental Invocation + Elemental Discharge to cause ailments and remove the ailments only for the loop to add it with a subsequent crit and more ailments. Mana will definitely be an issue if the trigger gems require it.
I'm not sure if you acknowleged it but most metagems (like this one) acts as "auras" and reserve spirit. I also suspect that the mana reservation rate on support gem is gonna affect that spirit reservation. It might become an interesting challenge to build around if this ends up as costing too much spirit for a six link or if this limits the other auras you might want instead.
@@FiatNyx i cant wait to find out! I am not sure if the spirit cost will scale, but if it does, then we will just need to build around it, or take it slow
Cast on crit + ember fusilade / volatile dead (fire spells casted trigger multiple summons raging spirits)
Sumon raging spirits + infernal legion + minion instability (for cast on minion death)
Sacrifice (reviving minions can be used as corpse sacrifices)
Skeletal arsonist (sacrifices other living minions)
Cast on minion death + Lightning storm
Elemental Storm + Elemental doscharge
Cast on minion death + lightning storm
Elemental Storm + elemental discharge
Links:
Cast on crit + skeletal warrios/raging spirita + impetus support + energy retention + minion instability + infernal legion
Cast on minion death + ligthning storm + energy retention
Elemental storm+ elemental discharge
@@joseluiscuervolopez-mora1814 seems like fun! You would need to drop one of the energy retention or elemental storm depending on the ascendency you pick
You start with self cast blade vortex or self cast lightning storm
Cast on Crit Lightning storm:
15 hits in 6 second
Inflicts 30 (shock+ignite at most)
Elemental Storm activates on lightning storm hit:
2s cooldown
20 hits no crits
(And no ailments)
With
Elemental discharge support:
supported spell cannot inflict ailments
Cooldown 1s
Crit 10%
Supported skills (elemental storm) consume ailments on hit to trigger discharge
Elemental discharge - 6 hits in 6 seconds, 5 crits at 100% generates 90 energy over 6 seconds
Lightning storm triggers again from 6 elemental discharge
40% cooldwon reduction: elemental discharge hits every 0.6 or 0.75 seconds from elemental storm: 4.5 seconds loop
Problem: if the enemy moves from the elemental storm box, elemental discharge stops hitting.
I rode in poe2db cast on crit energy link that “Supported gems cannot add energy” so you need external crits like herald of thunder i guess
The problem whit lightning storm, is that you need to wait the duration of the spell to trigger itself, i will go for spark with added projectile and pierce
@@TevKa266 increase limit support solves that
With this the best use would be getting a second storm over the self cast one sadly
25% chance for refund energy spent from tree
35% chance to refund energy spent from an energy support
Hey friend! I was also thinking about the possibility of looping. If that doesn't work, do you think it's possible to set up two separate configurations? One could be focused on "Cast on Crit" with three spells and a support gem to increase the chance of shocking, and the other could be "Cast on Shock" with three different spells, using increased critical chance. This will make the first setup trigger the other setup and visa versa. Additionally, we could leverage weapon swaps in this scenario, where the first weapon set maximizes crit chance, while the second setup boosts the chance of shocking. For the passive skill tree, the first set could focus on crit chance, while the second focuses on shock chance.
Do we know if the weapon swap will happen automatically when using "Cast on Crit" with the first weapon set and "Cast on Shock" with the second weapon swap? It will really look funny if she spasm between those 2 weapon set.
@@gamerguy441 we dont know about the weapon swap yet, but i suspect it will work even if the animation does not show for meta skills. I also want to go the cast on crit elementalist ascendency to add to the combo. I cant wait to get in game and test. I suspect my first run through the game is going to be slow and super scuffed lol
@@JoespressoGaming same here :D
Crest of ardua shield 50% increased cooldown recovery rate
Im thibking of doing something like gemling , stacking strength, casting arc with cast on crit proccing some physical spells. No idea if it will work but gaving fun daydreaming about it. I imagine early game will be awful though.
@@KrisHammes sounds like a blast! Teah i think crit is going to be hard to get consistent early, but we will have to see!
More precisely perhaps bonestorm with cast on channeling into some physical spells or attack skills? No idea if that works mind you
I see attack skills don't so that's a shame. While looking through the list I see raise shield is considered channeling. I wonder if it works with cast while channeling skill? Channeling skills are often weak due to lack of movement but it could work as a defensive? Hold shield up and during that time cast some utility like curses?
And 87% cooldown recovery rate from tree