The Biggest MVP SNUBS in MLB History
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- Опубліковано 14 лис 2023
- With Ronald Acuna Jr. and Shohei likely to win the MVP awards this year, I decided to discuss who I think were the biggest MVP snubs in Major League Baseball history, including Albert Pujols, Alex Rodriguez, and Pedro Martinez.
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How tf do u put out so many good videos while being a teacher??? Huge respect to you and all teachers btw
I guess when your job consists of teaching kids through visual displays, this channel is probably second nature to him
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Nobody in history had a more legitimate gripe with the MVP voters than Ted Williams. He had 2 triple crown seasons and the third year you mentioned where he batted .406, and he didn't get MVP any of those three seasons.
Biggest gripe with rules is Babe Ruth. During most of his era, there was a rule preventing a player of on winning the award twice. So when people say Ruth only won 2 MVPs, they aren't making the compelling argument they think they are. Without that rule, there's an argument that he wins a decade straight, except for his shortened 1925.
I've heard Ted Williams had so few MVPs is because he and the press (who voted for MVP) did not get along, and many journalists would vote against Williams because of it. Don't know the veracity of it, but it would make some sense
The 2 biggest snubs in my opinion were Albert Belle in 1995 & Barry Bonds in 1991
Belle had .317/.401/.690 with 50 HR & 52 Doubles🤯
As a Braves fan I have to admit that Terry Pendleton didn’t deserve the MVP over Bonds in 1991
Yep, those were legitimate robberies.
I can't hear Miguel Tejada's name without remembering one of Chris Berman's best quips on names, "Tejada they come, Tejada they fall"
Great video. Pujols’ prime is just insane, and we may never see anything like it again
Bro really only had one more strikeout than the number of homers he hit thats insane
I think the reason Altuve edged out judge in the 2017 szn is because Altuve won the ws
voting is before playoffs
There are a few players who have a great case but didn't won the MVP
2007 Matt Holliday
2016 Mookie Betts
2006 Derek Jeter
2004 Adrian Beltre
2015 Jake Arrieta
Matt Kemp 2011 should have as well.
I still think Altuve deserved the MVP
He was also a bit better in the 2nd half
if you look at Judge v Altuve Judge led in 80% of stats
doesn't matter, altuve was consistent all season
tf u mean "doesnt matter" isnt that the only thing that MATTERS when comparing seasons 💀💀@@msscott22
Doc was the man. He had some career but off the field problems really cost him. Ted Williams, I think, would’ve been a multiple MVP had it not been for 2 wars he served in.
he was a multiple mvp
Williams and the press had a mutual hatred for each other. If Williams had kissed the press's ass he would have won MVP both of those years. Of course he was an ass kicker, not a kisser.
Mo Vaughn over Albert Belle was a crime. I think Walker over Piazza was wrong.
I’d have to disagree on that one. While the park adjusted stats favor Piazza’s bat slightly, Walker was 1 home run away from a 50-30 season, had 10 total zone runs compared to Piazza’s -2, and led the NL in WAR, so I think the voters got that one right
@@DA-yl8js what I liked about Piazza's year was it was the greatest offensive season for a catcher ever.
I agree with your list but I feel like you missed Matt Kemp 2011. He deserved it over Ryan Braun who was caught on roids.
There is a good argument for Ken Griffey in 1996 as well
That was absolute ROBBERY. Griffey should’ve had 2 MVPs or more for sure. He got robbed in 1993 as well.
Can’t wait until batting average & RBI’s are no longer mentioned in these videos. All that matters is OBP, slugging, OPS, OPS+, total bases, HR, doubles & triples are fun to look at too. Nothing batting average tells you that OBP & slugging don’t, & RBIs/runs are determined by how good your team is & other random factors
Man it's about 50 robberies. But when considering robberies for MVP from 1950’s to the 90's, I really consider it a legitimate robbery when a player leads their team to first place or the best record and that player has superior numbers or WAR, and still not receive the award. While they give the award to the player with inferior numbers and didn’t lead their team to the playoffs or first place.
These are the robbery cases: 1952 Jackie Robinson, 1958 Mickey Mantle, 1962 Willie Mays, 1969 Hank Aaron, 1971 Willie Stargell, 1974 Reggie Jackson, 1981 Rickey Henderson, 1985 George Brett, 1987 Allan Tramell, 1988 Daryl Strawberry (sort of ), 1991 Barry Bonds, 1995 Albert Belle, and so on again the better player with better numbers leads his team to 1st and still doesn't win it. Like Musial not getting it while his teammate Marty Marion gets the award in 1944. It's sad
You could argue Griffey for 96 too
I'm a Yankee fan! Altuve deserved it! Cheetah! Lol the worst one was Kirk Gibson over Darryl strawberry in the 80s!
That ted williams one has to be because its so old and they thought the mvp should be someone who helped their team win
came to make sure ted williams was #1 🙏 '41 & '47 were just criminal
this is just my opinion for the fun of it, being an oriole fan I have always felt Kenny Singleton was snubbed in 1979. While Baylor is a favorite of mine, being a former oriole, he was primarily a designated hitter, while Kenny played every day in right field. their stats are very similar that year and both teams met in the playoffs (Angels vs Orioles).
Fred Lynn should have been AL MVP in 79. Look at his numbers and you’ll see that.
Orioles won more games than the other team that year in the American league, and wouldn’t have done it without Kenny Singleton - by definition the most valuable player.
2017 Joey Votto deserves at least a mention
Yep I was going to say Votto in 2017 too
1942 was a bigger snub for Ted Williams imo also Mike trout has several huge snubs imo .. I think his rookie year is like one of the best of all time and his highest war and he didn’t get it also Mickey mantle was snubbed hard several times also yaz and Rico .. seems like a lot of redsox players got did dirty or snubbed in every gen lmao also several guys have like 10-12 war seasons and didn’t win which is crazy looking at it now
Funny Ted Williams and Albert Pujols are both on the list and they both finished 2nd in MVP voting 4 different times. Definitely got snubbed.
2019: Alex Bregman vs Mike Trout
some years have a ton of MVP seasons and some have none. silly award in a team sport sometimes to me
Teddy got snubbed a bunch of times.
fun fact pujols while playing in saint louis was robbed by a guy from saint louis
Edmonds or rolens?
@@STLhumanity314 idk, I like Edmonds more and I do think if rolens is in the hof edmonds should be too. Same amount of gf from a more “premium” position. About a 100 less hits but also almost 100 more hrs. Ended is career with an over 900 ops but still remained known mostly for his defense.
1952 Robin Roberts
Pedro Martinez in 1999 actually got more first place votes than Ivan Rodriguez on the MVP ballot. Two writers left Pedro off their ballot. So to say Pedro got snubbed is a massive understatement. Ivan Rodriguez stole AL MVP that year, and it wasn't even his fault. And not to knock Ivan Rodriguez; in any other year he would be the rightfully deserved MVP winner.
The two writers that left him off would be considered a snub imo
Shocked no 1988 Daryl Strawberry
Jeff Kent over Bonds, come on man!
Ooooo yeah that was a bit of a snub. Kent did have the higher BA and more RBIs which was valued at that time. Helton also had a really good year.
I'm okay with Kent winning it over Bonds, because Kent was a second baseman who put up those great numbers. Teammates take votes from each other like the Big Red Machine had 7 MVP award winners from 5 players in the 70's and the Orioles had 3 different MVPs in their heyday back in the late 60's early 70's. Same thing with the Brooklyn Dodgers in the late 40's and early 50's even though Duke Snider never won one. Bonds SHOULD have won it in 1991, and could have won it in 1996 but they were in last place that year.
If we knew then what we know now with Bonds, Pujols would've won more MVPs. Bonds got a high OPS because he walked so many times, it was not funny.
No sorry, Bonds was the greatest hitter of all time, PED’s or not, he was amazing+ Bonds won like 3 MVP’s in Pittsburgh where it’s documented that he WAS NOT on PED’s+most home-runs+most intentionally walks
Plus Im not even a giants fan(Dodger fan) and I think he’s the greatest player of all time
Bonds could have won more like in 1991, 1996 before the peds. He could have won in 2000 as well. It was clearly a robbery in 1991 as he led the Pirates to another division crown. You could give Pujos more, but then you can replace the ones Bonds won (that you want to disqualify) with the ones he was robbed of in the 1990's.
@@KeithLarson-do3ew Yep, he is the greatest player of all time in many discussions. When you walk a guy in 1998 (when he was clean), withe bases loaded intentionally you're the GOAT.
Barry Bonds 1991 he should have won the MVP
As A Braves fan I have to agree with this! Pendleton didn’t deserve that MVP over Bonds
2011 Braun over Kemp anyone?
Yes absolutely. I was shocked that Kemp didn’t win that one.
@@HT-sm9dm real ones know.
Looking at Teddy Ballgame's BBRef page, he lost way too many MVP votes over the years. He was the MVP of the 40s and 50s. Bar none. Too bad the Sox just could not overcome the yankees during that time...or any time up until 2004 for that matter.
Honestly, if you go back and look at the stats, Ted Williams should have at least five MVP’s
Altuve was one of the few players on the Astros not using the sign stealing method at the time. His name was dragged through the mud by guys like Jomboy, and it’s really unfortunate. Altuve is a future Hall of Famer.
lol sure he was
@@JMPIMP254 he was
Of course he used it. Probably used buzzers too judging by the 2019 ALCS. Where there’s smoke there’s fire, lad.
His team around him still cheated, so even if Altuve himself didn't cheat he still benefited from it. Pitch counts, guys on base when he would come up to bat, pitchers changing their game plan cause they're being hit. All of that vastly different
There’s literally no evidence besides hear say to show that he wasn’t using the stolen signs.
IN 2005 THE NL MVP SHOULD OF WENT TO ANDRUW JONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How did you miss Pedro’s actual best season? 2000… where he posted a 1.74 ERA and 11.7 WAR?
His actual best season was 1999.
@@rhyde how so?
Ohtani got snubbed bad a couple years ago. Judge had a good year but ohtani did things we have never seen on a baseball feild before and put up big numbers at the plate and on the mound. Jude won because he hit 60 HRs which has been done before and the fact he was on a winning team and that team being the Yankees he got the award. Shame !
I disagree. Judge absolutely deserved that award. It was a historical season.
@@rhyde for judge yes. For the league it wasn't. We have witnessed how many people hit 60 HRs now? We have never seen a player do what ohatni did. Plain and simple.
It seems like you’re making an assumption that pitchers typically get MVP awards. I think there is an aversion to giving that award to pitchers. Usually the Cy Young is seen as the equivalent for pitchers. A lot of your snubs are based on that concept.
I’m not making that assumption, but when pitchers are putting up ridiculous numbers, there’s definitely a case.
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Its Crazy that Albert Pujols( arguably the best right handed hitter in baseball post deadera) best year.... didn't net him an mvp. A roided out 40 year old Barry bonds and his 500on base did. Crazy he didn't win it in 2003
Altuve didn't cheat
Juan had better numbers than Arod
I’ll take altuve over judge. Altuve lead his team with consistency. Judge went into a slump that costed his team a division title.
Altuve also had buzzers and trash cans
Some good but some horrible takes your second place was a pretty bad take
Good video, but your bias towards the Red Soxs shows lol. Albert Belle should've been the MVP in 95 not Vaughn
altuve was the clear mvp. judge pulled a houdini down the stretch then padded his numbers at the end.
An MVP is decided on the total numbers a player put up at the end of the year, not on how they played during a specific portion of the regular season. Based on the numbers both players were about as equally deserving of the award.
@@GodDogofVice The MVP is decided by only one set of numbers: the numbers of votes a player gets. Judge disappearing for large chunks of the season in terrible slumps pushed voters to vote for the more consistent player. That's the context. That's why the vote was so lopsided. I would have voted for Altuve without hesitation. It really wasn't that close, and the vote reflects that.
I'm convinced no one actually watches baseball anymore and just looks at stats. That's the only reason anyone would think Judge was deserving of the MVP in 17. The voters got this one right.
@@msscott22 Obviously that is the case, but the baseball writers are supposed to vote based on the players overall regular season production not by how they feel a player performed at certain points during the season. Baseball writers in general are some of the dumbest voters in any sport. If you truly believe the vote should've been so one sided, I think you may have a bright future as a baseball writer.
@@GodDogofVice I actually watch and understand baseball. Anyone can look at a stat sheet. Grats on that.
David Ortiz should’ve won the AL MVP in 2006.
Man that was a good year he had
2001 Jason Giambi should have swept Ichiro for the MVP
Since the cy young award, no pitcher should win the m.v.p.