My Ultra Orthodox Jewish Life - Julia Haart | On the Edge podcast 251
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- My Unorthodox Life star Julia Haart is ANGRY. She is now a fashion mogul and reality star. But she grew up in an ultra orthodox extreme Jewish sect that forced her to be 'modest', and had to learn how to start again with her new life in the outside world. She went on to be CEO of fashion company Elite Model Management (EMM), and create and star in her own Netflix series My Unorthodox Life. Since escaping from the Haredi community, she has worked with Kendall Jenner and Naomi Campbell among other top models.
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You'll have seen Julia Haart making appearances on The Ellen Show to discuss her Full Circle moment, and the Tamron Hall Show to talk about the root of her divorce, not to mention Family Feud, where she appeared with her family. Her kids include: Shlomo, Miriam, Batsheva and Aron.
It's like the Netflix Hasidic Jews documentary series Unorthodox or famous ex-Hasidic Jews Shloime Zionce and Lev Tahor (from the Lev Tahor documentary). This is like a look inside the home of an orthodox jews family - hanging with the hasidics.
Watch my episodes with:
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0:00 Intro
1:00 Growing up in the 18th Century!
7:00 Why Julia was criticised.
11:00 PROOF?: Girls can't go to college
17:00 Why happiness is irrelevant (amazing point!)
21:00 Why her teacher SMELLED a TV
25:00 Julia is still proud to be a Jew
27:00 When a Rabbi did something unexpected
29:00 Women had to marry their attacker
31:00 What Ultra Orthodox Jews think of Andrew
34:00 Escaping the sect & being shunned
39:35 Thoughts of ending it all - shocking
41:00 Adapting to the outside world
43:30 My first real boyfriend!
46:30 Embarrassing Royal Family Story! - Розваги
Have you watched her series on Netflix? any thougths? And hit that like button!
Yes, we watched both seasons
Never heard of this show, but Julia was very pleasant to listen to. We had a few visitors in the chat...
What's it called on Netflix Andrew ?
Really enjoyed her,another great show Andrew
No, but will now 😀...
Religious extremism of any faith can be dangerous.
Except maybe true religion.....taking care of widows,orphans, poor, injusticed, etc.
A true religion supports both genders. But when it favors one gender above another, then it becomes a weapon of power, subjugation, and unquestioned abuse. This is not limited to any one religion.
My family was RCC on both sides. They told me I didn't need to be educated because I would get married and "some man" will take care of you. I put myself through college on a work-study program while carrying 18 credit hours per semester, and holding a weekend job waitressing. When I graduated, neither parent showed up or had anything nice to say like "congratulations".
As long as I lived under my father's roof, boyfriends were discouraged, and any male friend who came to see me was driven off with overt anger and abuse by my father. I never married until I was 35, and had moved from NY to Hawaii to get away from them to do it. They always preferred their religious dogma to being happy. I once wrote in my diary, "In this house, the only emotion you are allowed to feel is depression." This is something I saw throughout my whole Irish Catholic community.
Religion, at some point, no matter how good the initial intent, always seems to eventually fall into the wrong demanding hands that insists on winners and losers. Thus far, women, in general, are the ones who end up with the lion's share of responsibilities, work, burdens, subjugation, and oppression. This class of people are expected to mold themselves around whatever the other gender is doing, and sacrifice themselves and their dreams for the sake of the happiness of others.
I think this is changing, and there are those females who are off the rails, but they're not representative of the whole nor do they tell the story of the many who have and do suffer in silence.
The community Julia grew up in was not extreme. Maybe her family was but not her community. She was not honest.
Most orthodox Jews do not grow up the way she describes. Judiasm is extremely pro women and pretty much all of the garbage Julia puts out about the laws of judiasm are either straight up nonsense or lacking context.
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Not can be, is. It always is. Extremism of any kinde no matter what
@@red---paulvanravenswaay2247 its another religion. And why this poor people come to such situation. The social community must civer this security and finenciale situations.
This is the modern new religion. With the leadership of women only.
The DBA of males lead them to react as befor - bad.
That is why the passauah period is will be the time of NO force no power criteria to take control only mercy and feir justic and logic & truth criterias. - women leading.
As a Soviet born American Jew, I find this woman's story fascinating. Especially since I grew up in a fairly religious home, which was unusual for Soviet Jewish immigrants. Most Soviet Jews left the USSR with a very limited understanding of Judaism.
Can relate to the latter part as I’m Jewish, left for US , family didn’t practice Judaism in Russia but learned a lot more about it in US. Can’t say orthodox is for me, but yeah
Yes, they did
*What is so fascinating about it. Soviet trash became American trash. Trash is trash.*
Wow, that reminds me of my grandpa, he was polish, all his family was killed in Auschwitz. They would have lived if my great grandmother wouldn't have said no to moving to Russia, because for her, jewish community there was too treif! 😢😤
I met someone recently who was born in Belarus in the 90s. Came to America as a child, but wasn't observant. She became Orthodox as an adult.
As an educated Jewish woman with an advanced university degree who is familiar with both Lubavitch and Bresloc Chassidus , I understand exactly what you are saying and have experienced much of the same. It has caused me confusion and sadness and even anger and frustration . Thank you for helping me to know that I am not alone
These orthodox groups utterly fail because they stubbornly refuse to accept Yeshua Hamashiya as the Messiah.
What exactly did you study and where?
dr anna
Well, I don't know whether you studied insufficiently or something wrong, but clearly there is a problem with this monster (or actually two of them) and you don't see this.
Again, what exactly did you study if you can say - how long?
dr anna
You're a woman?
"Every religion turns into a boys club" - spot on Andrew. In fact they were designed that way from the start.
And every society too. Wonder why
@@r.m5883 physical power....
Patriarch society...
Julia, you’re parents and mine came from the same school of thought. “Who promised you fair?” “Who promised you happy?” “Nobody promised you a rose garden.”
My ex husband was a fundamentalist Christian. He ran the house that way, he wanted the Bible to the main law that the home was based on. I had little issue with the idea of submission to him in big decisions but I drew the line at subservience, he never understood the difference.
Isn’t it strange how about all religions miraculously justify and solidify male superiority?
So convenient.
Exactly! I am a Christian woman who has never married. Finding a man who understands the difference would be pretty challenging all right. Unfortunately a Christian guy might forget the rest of it: This husband should love his wife as he loves himself: he nourishes and cherished her as Christ loves his church. That’s how it is supposed to be but doesn’t often happen.
Question: Did your Husband act like Jesus Christ or did he act more like Julius Cesar?
Unfortunately, many can claim to be Christian’s, but their heart is NOT in the right place!!
My husband Daniel is a True Christian Soul . He is not a domineering man at all! He could tame a lion with how meek and humble he is!
Fundamentalist religion is virtually always that way. The only choice for a woman who does not want to live as a slave to the imagined dictates of imaginary supernatural tyrants out in space is to walk away, difficult though it may be. Freedom is worth it.
There is a DEFINITE difference 😊
Really loved this interview! I’ve watched all of Julia’s show ‘My Unorthodox Life’ but this just brilliant. This interview really highlighted how intelligent and impressive Julia really is and how brilliant you are at interviewing Andrew
The “Thank You for Not Making me a Woman.” I felt that right in my gut.
Love these interviews as they are so insightful and educate us how others live. Without the Internet we'd be so oblivious too ! Great interview Andrew and thankyou to this lovely lady sharing her crazy stories. Thank heavens she escaped.
What a great interview! It's so wonderful that you were really able to discuss so many things in depth. I have a lot of extended family who are pretty extreme Christians, and there were many similarities to Julia's story. My cousin sewed a dress for her math exam at 16, and she's now 32 with seven kids. She married at 19 and never really had a choice about it. She's now raising her daughters the same way. Happiness is not important or even considered selfish. You should be happy with serving God and your husband because they always have to have a headship as a woman. They don't associate with anyone outside of their extreme ideas of Christianity unless it's a superficial conversation to try and convert you, but the pity that Julia talked about in her group towards non-religious Jews, I knew exactly what she was talking about just in a very different context. The beliefs are different, but the tactics are the same. It's so important to show the problems of fundamentalist groups. There are many beautiful and fulfilling ways to be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Atheist etc. But religions or ethical systems can also be implemented in really harmful ways too, and it's important to talk about it because the people inside don't even know what choices and ways of thinking that are being taken away from them.
yikes.
Well said and I agree . What is missing from these groups is love for others and who or what they are !
The only difference is that all she spews are lies. If it wouldn't be so sad it would be humorous. Anything and everything she speaks of is inaccurate. Just by looking at so many other Jewish women its obvious. Like her lies are not even personal truths. Theyre rewritten history.
There’s No shame in being good at sewing?? And some people want large families and enjoy that!!
Who are You to Judge?
Did you Ask your cousin and did she confide in you that she regretted making any of those life decisions?
HOWCOME you’re still acquainted with her even after you left her religion? If she’s in a Cult, you wouldn’t have been able to see her again.
Are you yourself married with kids? What’s the story with your life?
@@michellelansky4490 I think she was in the ultra orthodox sect ? Not just a typical Jewish family?
Andrew Gold likes to find all these people from random cult groups that are in minority, and get his audience to generalise to the greater religious groups. As this OP is hinting at?
He’s an Atheist and his Hate for anything related to YHWH shows.
He purposefully doesn’t talk about the Dangers of Militant Atheism.
I am the only educated woman in my mother's side of my family and fathers side . I am grateful for this video because I was criticized for wanting to learn and teach. I won't accept that . Women must learn just like men. I was even threatened if I teach . I cannot live in a world of ignorance. It's impossible for me
Again and again, I find myself so grateful to my parents for not dumping a religion upon me and my 5 siblings. Not one of us, all in our 60's and 70's now, has EVER felt the lack of a 'god', and I can say, without any hesitation, that we are all happy, honest, caring and considerate people......our parents set a very good example by being decent people themselves without the need of dogma.
God is real
@@commonsense5892 To you, and that's fine, but not to me.
@@chrisstone8210 God isn’t a man or the son of anyone he is the one the creator and sustainer of all things the compassionate to his slaves. I invite you sincerely to Islam. What greater loss to lose in this world and the next out of arrogance
@@commonsense5892 I'm happy your faith means so much to you. God, to me, is just a word with no meaning, and, like I said, I have never felt there is anything missing in my life. I would not label myself arrogant.
@@chrisstone8210 I’m glad you’re not arrogant and you sound like a very nice person. if I passed a road with fire and told you to turn your car around there’s fire ahead you wouldn’t say I’m ok I’ll find out for myself I can’t see the fire. So don’t deny the creator who’s magnificence is seen in the sun and moon and the galaxy and nature around us. I invite you to Islam
Thank you so much for being so brave for bringing this story. I truly appreciate learning from both of you! Thank you!
I love hearing from Julia in real life. The Netflix series seems a bit TV filtered. Her story is amazing and she is so articulate, intelligent and such a strong woman. Also, Andrew well done you lead the interview amazingly.
Wait there is a Netflix series 😮what is it called. I would like to see it
@@yohannaramirez8320 You didn’t know? All the attention seekers and their Mothers are on Netflix today ! Everybody wants to be a victim! Everybody wants to cash in on it too!
@@morticiagomez6166 please stop. We GET that you’re an apologist for the behaviour of ultra orthodoxy. You can quit trying to poison every comment on this video now.
U know when new seasson come ?cant wait for it
I have watched now about 3-5 video's. All your guests in these video's were amazing and extremely strong. And you are the perfect interviewer for this kind of conversations. I am just wondering how many people have fallen through the cracks when they tried to get out or the people who want to get out but for some reason couldn't. So many suffering and so many wasted and destroyed lives.
You are putting out quality content. I've been enjoying watching it. Decided to subscribe today 😊
That was a wonderful interview! You both have adorable personalities. Thank you both so much. Brazen, I can’t wait.
The book came out last year.
Looking forward to this one. Won’t catch the live but will watch later 😊
I also once picked up a religious book that interested me in the library at the religious study hall and one of the ultra-Orthodox women teachers said to me: Ladies don't read that book.
I said to her: So, call me a tramp...and kept reading. She almost fainted.
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What was the subject of this book
Lolllll
haha! sounds like something i would say... what i say the most is 'kiss my attitude'
good on you for sticking up for yourself.
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In a religious study hall? Could’ve been a book about Kabbalah.
(Only men, aged 40 and over, were permitted to study Kabbalah.)
I studied, kaballa. Nothing anyone can not read. Religions are all such a farse. To keep people paralyze and obedient .
Looking forward to this 😊
Doubt I'll make the live though. 7 is when we start the bed time routine xx
Andrew, this was a wonderful interview. And Julia, how could you ever be quiet and subservient? You are such a delight.
I'm off to buy the book and find the Netflix show. Your smile and laugh is infectious ❤️
That’s how men want women to be
Yes! Amazing interview. I really appreciated her insight. Bless you both!!!❤❤
Andrew, this was fantastic! I LOVED this video. It was incredibly inspiring, thoughtful, funny and illuminating. I really enjoyed your engagement and questions. Thanks so much ❤
By the way - off on a tangent here but… I’m a huge fan of L.A. not so confidential and they plug your channel like mad! Any chance you’d be able to do an interview with Dr. Scott and Dr. Shiloh?
Continued success to you and your channel! ❤
That you manage to interview such amazing people is testament to the quality of your channel. I'm completely enthralled by this amazing woman. Congratulations on surpassing 100K subscribers; an achievement well deserved.
yes. yes. yes.
Great show!!!❤
Thank you Andrew I'm sorry I couldn't make the live as it is a but late here in South Africa bed time I will watch in the morning. 🤗🤗
I was raised Catholic; my mother, especially, wanted me to be silent and subservient. I was to be her constant assistant and relieve her of many duties so she could focus on my brothers and an extremely active social life with my father. Strangely enough, she also wanted me to be financially independent from the family, about age 10. She stressed doing for myself and living a life of work, in the home as well as out. Needless to say, there was tremendous conflict.
How on God's green 🌎 did she expect a child of 10 years old to be financially independent? That's absolutely insane and cruel and horrible. I honestly hope that you do not have contact with her because she clearly doesn't deserve to have you as her child. My mother and her siblings were raised in a strict Catholic household until my grandparents divorced, my grandma's idea, and there were 2 girls and 3 boys and my oldest Aunt parented her siblings more than my grandmother did unfortunately and my grandfather traveled for work and was in the national guard and wasn't home a lot and everyone struggled being raised by them. My father's side was raised Catholic as well and strict but his parents stayed married for 63 years until my grandfather passed in 2014 and my grandparents from that side were very different to say the least and they both raised their 3 children.
Thank you for this interview! She is so amazing & so r your interview skills, I've become a new subscriber!!!🎉
I watched the Netflix series & loved it. What a phenomenal woman she is. I really want to read her book now. I was wondering how her youngest son was doing now, as in the series he appeared to be drifting away from her & becoming immersed in his religion.
Julia Haart, there is nothing stupid about not knowing protocols nor life outside an orthodoxy which hides you from the outside world. None of us with your history would fair any better. Much love + ✊🏼👵🏻🇬🇧
An incredible interview. Thank you for it!!!
Excellent interviewee!
She communicates well, very eloquent and touches her audience.
Bravo!
🙋♀️Hey, y’all . Looking forward to watching this later; have saved in watch list. Hope everyone within earshot is well & happy in the meantime. 🖖
Awww I loved this 👏. Brilliant & strong lady ❤. The Royal story really made me giggle bless her 😅.
I grew up orthodox, left, but now I wanna get back in but to a more normative balanced healthier version of it ( orthodoxy is not a monolith). Julia’s testimony inoculates me to the extremism and fanatic aspects of it of it !
What an amazing and eloquent woman! I will order her book now. It's amazing that she seems so well-rounded despite her experience.
I'm quite new to your channel by the way, but I'm really enjoying it, so will be watching more!
thank you so much doyle, very nice of you!
I will say that I graduated high school over a decade ago and most of the girls at my Bais Yaakov high school went to college and many at prestigious ones but the ones on the East Coast of the US are more extreme
I went to Beis Yaakov in Israel and most of the girls did not go to college
@@chayukykenig3055 Israel and the east coast of the US are definitely more extreme. We were still pressured to go to seminary before college though and my sister wanted to go straight to an orthodox jewish college and not seminary and they tried to withhold her transcripts. Eventually she got them and now is a partner at a top global consulting firm, but they do not make it easy for us and Id consider my bais yaakov more on the modern side
I so admire this lady! Thank you for interviewing her.
Wow. This woman looks so much like my aunt (American, Irish-Catholic). She even sounds like her and has similar mannerisms. It makes it even more fascinating, imagining my aunt being brought up in a super insulated, oppressive community instead of being the independent person she is with the whole world open to her. It somehow really drives the point home even harder. Great interview.
A dark skinned IrishCatholic …?
@@ycaceres3357
Have you heard of the “black Irish”? 😉
Ok, I think that’s a myth, but Romans settled in Ireland, and there was some Spanish “immigration” (perhaps from shipwrecks)…enough to make the Irish not all look like Vikings!
Well it seems that the Celts of northwest Spain travelled and settled in Ireland and Scotland
Look into the migration across Europe over the centuries, is fascinating
Andrew, thank you for another wonderful interview. You are very brave and you are thanked for that ❤
This is heartbreaking. One of my best friends went the other way. She was brilliant and talented. After a year of college she emigrated to Israel, to a commune, with her parents’ blessing. She actually planned that as a way to get over there to stay, but they would not have supported the trip had they known her plan. She met and quickly married a man who was 3 weeks from his 20th birthday. In his sect, he was required to marry by that age. The men hold weekly prayers in the ancient hills. I don’t know if she was happy or if that word even remained in her vocabulary, but she felt she was doing what was right.
My grandparents were raised in the orthodox Jewish tradition in Hungary. They were refugees to Australia after fleeing.
When they came to their new country, they decided that they wanted to become more modern and contemporary.
As a Jewish woman I do follow the important traditions of the religion, but I realise that I live in the modern world, and some things need to evolve and change.
im so sad for Julia that she had such a terrible experience. I grew up in Bais Yaakov schools for both elementary and high school and not only did they encourage a college education, they also taught classes to help prepare us for college as well as having AP courses. Our school pushed for us to go to college and those of us that chose to not go to college for whatever reason were looked at funny 😅 I chose to date and married who I wanted, who I loved and felt that we have the same interests for our futures. Until this day we lead orthodox lives and its beautiful💖
That's because Julia is making up a story to a large extent. You were encouraged to go to college right? Was your brother? Or was he told he must study Gemara every second of his life. She is portraying this as a gender thing, but she has it backwards. The boys have a worse life than the girls.
It isn’t true my daughter went you Bais Yaakov and the principal of the school the Rabbi was totally furious when my daughter encouraged by me went to collage
I met an African American in college. We got along well. He didn’t dress like a Jewish man or act like one, but he talked to Jewish people. My friend said that she would only date him if he was Jewish. I noticed the a lot of people were prejudiced against my nice friend. And that’s sad. Why do I have to marry a Jewish man? I never dated a Jewish man after I lost touch with the nice African people man. I wonder what would happen if he was reading this and understood that I liked him.
As long as you want to be Speech Therapist or Occupational Therapist. Lol
Is it though lol
I am filled with reverence when I hear such eloquent and intelligent people as Julia Haart speak. A very good interview, Andrew.
This lady is just incredibly erudite. A joy to listen to. I could listen to her speak for hours. So informative.
Lol someone gave Ann a thesaurus for her birthday 💀
I used to be a teacher lol
What a lovely person this person is. Sorry to hear she lost her family. But she found herself and a real lot of people fascinated by her wonderful personality. I wish her only all the best in her life, and a community able to love her as she deeply deserves to.
Well said
That line when she woke in the morning? My eyes just shot open!! The prayer she said, then the prayer a man said, I don't know, it just got to me!! Personally, I think Jesus would just want us to b happy!!🌼🌼🌼
Her story about the blessings lacks context. The meaning behind the blessing, which is taught in kindergarten when the blessings are introduced, are not about men being better. Women are held with extremely high regard in judiasm and are considered to be more naturally spiritual and connected to God. Both men and women are unique and special and deserve respect. There is no gender that is better in judiasm but any man who grows up in a healthy Orthodox Jewish home will be taught to give his wife absolute respect and love. Marriage is about working together and their is no one person who is more important. Judiasm actually shows unusual sensitivity and respect towards women for those (unlike Julia) who actually bother to listen to and learn about Judiasm.
How do you see here a beautiful personality? I see contempt, lies and a full rant against her very own people.....
Very fascinating and so heart-warming.... totally friend material. Are you serious?
We can all create "logical" families if our biological families don't meet our needs or if we don't meet them.
Thanks so much for interviewing this woman. Her message is so powerful. We must all send her courage and strength.
When Ms. Haart began talking about her previous life being in the 17th or 18th century, I thought for a second she was talking about reincarnation! Her story is so fascinating. She is an intelligent, well spoken, strong and beautiful woman. Thanks for having this fine lady on your program, Andrew.
Congratulations to you Andrew and your partner for cracking the hundred thousand mark.🎉🎉🎉🎉Well deserved for your efforts. I enjoy your channel and topics, I will continue to support you two.
Andrew, you are such an excelsior interviewer! 💗 And thank you for having Julia on to discuss so many aspects of her life’s experiences.
Another great interview!!! Thank you Andrew!!!!
Thanks for listening
I hope you’re happy now!
Am very proud of my grandsons growing up orthodox Jewish and seeing nothing wrong and all the plus for them for their future.
I wasn’t religious, but I am Jewish and my daughter married to Jewish orthodox we can’t be more happier and my son-in-law most nicest person on earth we don’t have complaints.
My daughter, happy my grandchildren are growing to be new generation of orthodox Jews .
I’m not religious but am a spiritual awaken, very knowledgeable, spiritual person. We are here to serve others and learn that’s why we are here on earth.
I love Julia❤❤ Binge watch her Netflix show and I have so many respect for her
Her story is heartbreaking but she is so brave !!!!
Thanks Andrew ❤
I don't understand why she would think it would be any different. Ancient beliefs are hard to change, especially where not everyone wants change. She has done the right thing for herself but not for everyone.
Everyone of your interviews show what an amazing interviewer you are!
Great interview!!❤❤
If I could have a brief moment with Julia Haart, it would be incredible. She truly is an inspiration and especially starting her life at 42???? We all have that in us. Go Ms. Haart❤❤❤ I truly feel that she is a genuine person only wanting better for her people.
YOU ARE JUST FANTASTIC ! You deserve all the respect in the world. Your struggle is universal and will bring strength to all the women of all religions.
What about the women in Militant Atheist countries like China and North Korea? Should we just ignore them and their plight?
What about young Atheist girls in the USA who have become Booty Fodder for MEN all around the world to lust over on po rn hub or Only Fans? Shouldn't we care about them ?
When she talked about education, I couldn’t help thinking of this cheeky, sarcastic description of “a real, honest, old-fashioned Boarding-school, where a reasonable quantity of accomplishments were sold at a reasonable price, and where girls might be sent to be out of the way, and scramble themselves into a little education, without any danger of coming back prodigies.”
This was Jane Austen taking no prisoners in Emma, so yeah, Julia really was living centuries away.
Brilliant. I must read Emma again!
But what is she talking about. Id say most of the women she grew up with are mostly professionals except for those who chose to be stay at home moms. In any given Jewish family typically one sister would be an SLP, one a CPA, one a PA, one a real estate broker and one an LCSW. Then you have you actuaries, lawyers, private entrepreneurs, PTs, OTs, just to give a typical description. The info shes providing is not convoluted truth but bald face drop your chin to your chest lies.....just a drop of research (i dont even mean RESEARCH, I just mean like 'asking around' and its obvious). Like she just makes this stuff up. Seems to me she felt she was personally a loser her entire life and decided to project it on other people. The fact that all you people commenting dont see through how absolutely NUTS she is is coo-koo, coo-koo.
And yet, Jane Austen was writing whole novels in her time, as were many of her contemporaries…
Modern and “free” Women today who have education at their disposal are throwing it away and opting to become Instagram models, tik tok influencers and Only Fans girls. Not to mention the po rn industry?
I think that both Jane and yourself have overestimated the Female species somewhat?
@@michellelansky4490really?
@@michellelansky4490: She doesn't sound like a liar at all. But you come across as bitter and angry.
Wow , thank you for sharing Julia's story .
Oh, do I relate to this! When I reached my late teens, my grandmother expected me to go from knowing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Sex to breeding, overnight. I was expected to 'get a Jewish man' and breed her a great-grandchild. It meant nothing to her that - due to illness I was born with and lifesaving operations I had to go through - I was infertile and would never be able to breed AT ALL. No. That wasn't important. She actually said to me, 'If you get with a Jewish man, then you'll get pregnant.' She hated the fact that my parents encouraged my independence, sending me up to college in London, far away from home. I was going to be in contact with lots of gentiles and learning stuff..... She ruined being Jewish for me. All the patriarchal pressure came from HER. I grew to hate her, and even hate being Jewish. I've had to unpack so much misery from my past. My best revenge is to live my life. Julia's a strong, articulate and brilliant woman!!!!
Julia is looking SO much healthier than her last show.
Truly chuffed for her.
Oh, just a mention,
the few episodes I did see of "the kaardashaaans", 😆, couldn't compare where it comes to Julia's story.
No comparison.
Such a lovely interview.
I was going to say the same thing. I am so glad she looks healthier than season 2. This was a great interview.
And yet, the Kardashians grew up in the Free world where Anything goes….
Where do you think this Woman Julia gets her values and her strength of character from? It’s from her upbringing. No matter how much she rebels against it. I’ll bet she’s not the type that will push her young child to transition .
Interspecies Family? 😅😅 really?
I’m assuming you’re meaning your Pets?
@@morticiagomez6166 I grew up in a free world also, though even in the Free World there are consequences. "Free", does not necessarily mean reckless or irresponsible.
Ehem! I didn't do too awfully myself.
To your last sentence, indeed one should hope no child is "pushed", to anything, much less anything irresponsible.
@@interspeciesfamily8043 Many western girls that have had access to education and opportunities in the West have simply resorted to making “easy money” by turning to one of the oldest professions known to the PatriarchY: S E X work, in the form of Po rn videos, Only Fans accounts or posting provocative bikini pics of themselves for clout and attention, which brings in the money…,
How, as Women , have we progressed exactly?
This doesn’t look like progress to me? This looks like Hoe behavior being encouraged in society!
Do you agree that society should throw out Christian values all together?
Holy hell, women have been dealing with this stuff for FOREVER!
That woman is pure dynamite. And as a man, I feel ashamed about that prayer she mentioned in the beginning.
I really admire Ms. Haart. How nice to see her speaking in this capacity, rather then on her show. She is one tough woman. Few people would have the smarts and wherewithal to get out of that world. She's also an engaging story teller. I must get the book. Thanks for having such a great guest Andrew!
Which world?
@@michellelansky4490 ??????? Huh
@@pamelaclark6694 some one said 'that world'....i was wondering which world bec re Julia Haart only a drop of out of social media research would result in the obvious conclusion that its her imaginary world.
Julia I just love you! U are a sooo genuine Jewish woman! I working in hasidic Jewish community! I'm a gentile, I understand so much about what you talking about! God bless you! Congratulations for your.self confidence and integrity!!!
I really enjoyed Julia’s openness and what to learn more about her journey. Hopefully, she has got an invitation to the coronation!
Wonderful interview with a wonderful woman..thank you Andrew xx
Never feel foolish Julia your courage it's amazing 👏 and your message in unfathomable in its transformative power to change as you are so articulate. Not only your community but many others like my own - I've Vietnamese background your story really moved me on so many fronts our lives are not dissimilar as women are still shakled by acadic belief systems and your experiences are invaluable and while you feel loneliness for your family you can adopt another family - the millions of us all who turn our backs on all mysongistic Fundamentalics lives!
This is so good!!!!
Andrew, this was a brilliant interview!!!!
For years I used to end my conversations with my mother, either in person, or by telephone, with "I love you." Desperately hoping she would return that sentiment. She never did. And then I realized, as Julia did, that her mother, my Bubbe of blessed memory, was not a very warm, nor demonstrative person at all. So, I totally understand how Julia described this!
Hi!! Just a request to you Andrew. Can you announce when you are going to do a live? If you have, I apologize..Obviously didnt catch it... Thank you for another great stream!!!
I'll try next time. I'll do one for my 100k subs once I receive the plaque!
@@AndrewGold1 Looking forward to it 😀!!!!!!
what an inspiring woman!! don't love the second series just too US for my taste but I loved the first and I love her!!!!
This reminds me of the movie 'Yentle' with Barbara Streisand! The only difference is that 40 years have passed, and this is STILL happening! Thank goodness for this wonderful, brave, and highly intelligent woman! It's heartbreaking to know that this is still happening around the world ... Unfortunately, this is also happening in many Muslim, Hindi, and Sheik communities. Wherever there is fundamentalism ... in any religion, it seems to me that it's the women who suffer from all of their constricting rules. THREE CHEERS for this brave lady! 🎉 🎉 .... and thank you for interviewing her so that a spotlight can be shone on this behaviour! Perhaps it's time for ALL of the governments around the world that are funding these schools to delve into what's actually happening in those schools, and cut their funding!! Money talks!
Julia is fabulous and so are YOU. I’ve ordered Brazen (arriving today) I’ve already seen the show. How. she survived so much trauma God only knows 🤩✡️🕎💟💯🙌💐👏🏻🙏 Brightest blessings to you 🌱💚🇬🇧
Another wonderful interview, thank you, Andrew 💙🤍💙
thank you stella!
She is lovely, and her story is heartbreaking. I understand her feelings and connect with the ultimatums given by family and religious community. Xx ❤
What an amazing and inspirational woman!!! I'm completely mesmerized 🫶
And Andrew Gold, what a great job you did with the interview! With such an dynamic and powerful woman! Absolutely amazing 🌸 I rely want to catch up on her Netflix series 🥰
me too
Her Netflix series is pure candy. Best show ever.
Andrew you’re amazing. It’s the first time I’m watching this interview. Julia Haart is so awesome. I watched Julia on Netflix. Sending love from South Africa 🇿🇦
Thank you so much for this very interesting and informative video 👏👏👏
That was unfortunately incredibly fascinating- so much so that I will be completely sleep depraved at work tomorrow :/
I would love to learn more about her story. What a beautifully intelligent & interesting woman.
Loved your show on Netflix - wonder what has happened with 2nd divorce!!
This is one admirable lady! Certainly looking her up and getting her book(s).
Andrew, thank you for this wonderful interview with Julia Haart. Loved it so much I've just bought her book. What a strong and thoughtful role model for all people. Leaving your family and all that you have known takes strength of the soul and heart. I love your interview style, Andrew. Bless you.
No one forced her family to be part of that community. As a secular Jew, who spent many years in an orthodox community, I totally disagree with her. The people who CHOOSE this lifestyle, lead happy fulfilled lives. Her parents Chose this! If it’s Julia’s choice not no follow that pious lifestyle - that’s Her choice! That does not mean she brings down the whole community. I’m ashamed that she has done this. You want out - get out, but don’t bring shame and antisemitism upon your own.
Many of my observant female friends are high achievers, extremely clever, work professional jobs all while running big households. I’m proud of THAT!
@@susannauchitel682 She didn’t lead an orthodox life but an ultra orthodox life in which she was grossly undereducated. Perhaps listen to the podcast.
@@atlramona I'm well aware of the differences as I have exposure to both. Again, her parents made a choice to make this massive change, from being comletely agnostic in Soviet Union to a ultra-religious lifestyle. She wasn't born into this lifestyle either. She could have left the comminity and moved on with her non religious lifestyle. She does not need to drag the community through this mud causing more hatred towards a minority
@@susannauchitel682 I’m guessing that you didn’t watch this video. You claim her education yet, Bais Yaakov and her parents embarrassment of their own education was part of her formative years. Lack of standard education is a significant key to be able to leave and perhaps a purposeful reason as to why inferior education is offered so that leaving is near impossible. The Amish do the same.
@@susannauchitel682so, she got out and her own family is shunning her is normal for you? No religion should put their made up God over their flesh and blood. My brother left, and I didn't speak to my brother for over 10 years because I wanted to be loyal to God and not associate with lost souls. I wish I had left sooner. Life is short and its frustrating to waste it on ideas that break people. Marrying a rapist might be out of good itensions but it breaks a person. So, freedom is more important than submission. If people didn't fight this nonsense, your friends wouldn't have an opportunity to thrive, they would stay married no matter what because there would be no other choice.
What a magnificent woman!
You're so brilliant, Andrew, in choosing people you want to interview.
You and your channel are my absolute favourite.
Loved this content, will definitely buy the book
Great interview!
Julia is amazing and so are you. Thank you so much for bringing us incredible people ❤
I AM Lost here. What is The title of Julia's book? And does anyone know if it is translated to portuguese? Thanks.
Eu nao sei si tem uma versao portugues, monica! mais, se chama Brazen.
@@AndrewGold1 Muito obrigada, Andrew! Bom Domingo ✨✨
Wow, Julia Haart....You are amazing,!...Congratulations on all you have been able to achieve.....A true Warrior! Here is hoping your sisters get hold of your book or someone in your old community.....Just amazing! A true star in my eyes....
But her info is made up of complete falsehood and lie.....shes a smooth operator and i have a gut feeling that most of her interviews and filming is done during 'manic' phase....seems to me she gives that possessed vibe so must be thats what drives her, combined with extreme self esteem problems growing up that cause her to project her inadequacies on others. Girls/women in Jewish schools are given potentially top notch educations (and esp the schools shes attending)......most families have multiple mid/high level professionals making up much of the family. I and most other Jewish women have NO idea of what she describes. Your jaw drops just listening to her make this stuff up. And when you compare to any public school system (okay maybe if you can afford 30k a year tuition you can get something better ....most people cant) CERTAINLY the education is multiple notches better (and we NEVER have to worry about crime, drugs, pregnancy, and weapons either.....enriches the learning environs if ya know what i mean).
No one tells me I can't do things as usual just because I have a menstraul cycle!...END OF!!...Why do you not just live your own life!...why do you have to follow another guys rules? Do you have no sense to know what is right and wrong for yourself? Or are you too blind to see?
@@deothang not sure what you mean, but your answer sounds like the answer of a young adolescent. Everybody knows shes a lier and suffers from mental illness. People that i know that know her from years ago tell me that they sort of befriended her but also tried to keep ber at arms length bec she was unstable. Most of the world knows her TRUE story. Its only bec of the limelight she seeks shes able to manipulate people naive or ignorant enough to be sucked in.
I grew up in Monsey and went to an even more conservative school than Julia did. I would say that some of the things she mentioned are accurate (for example my school didn’t have a chemistry lab at all, women are most valued as wives and mothers), however it’s really important to distinguish between her religious life and her family life. It seems like unfortunately her home life was very dysfunctional. The fact that she’s unsure if her mother ever loved her, or that her mom said “who said you have to be happy?” etc. those are NOT Jewish values. As well as her claim that she never got to choose the clothing she wore, or who she married, or her wedding dress (stated on the TV series) have NOTHING to do with Judaism. Every orthodox woman and girl I know can choose their husband, clothing and bridal gown, so if that did happen, it must have been family rules rather than Jewish rules.
By her description it seems her mom was a very cold person, which of course would make for an unhappy life.
Coming from a similar background, I went to college, I have a great career in medicine (yes, even though my first chemistry lesson was at the college level) and I still maintain strong Jewish values. My family supports me in all of this and I’m not considered rebellious. I did, however choose a bit of a more modern orthodox lifestyle for myself because I want my kids to have better opportunities in education etc.
My point is, Julia experienced dysfunctional home life, and since her home life was a strict religious one, the 2 became conflated and she abandoned both. There are many ways to be happy as an orthodox Jewish woman, there are many different lifestyles and choices even within orthodox life. I do feel sorry for her that she did not experience the joy that one can experience in an observant Jewish lifestyle, which is precisely what attracts so many who were raised secular to become observant.
This reminds me of many podcasts with ex-Mormon women and men. Yet so many Latter Day Saints ( “Mormons”) have very different experiences and speak warmly and lovingly of their faith and families.
i don't think all orthodox sects are the same-plus not all experiences are similar(hear this from Freida)She actually didn'y feel oppresed
Julia's certainly not the first Orthodox Jew to report the details she does
I went to Bais Yaakovs in Boro Park for both elementary and high school, and I got into college without any problem. I got 90s+ on all my regents (government state tests) because they prepared me so well. They transferred my transcripts no problem. I’m currently in Pharmacy School with a 4.0. I know many people that were able to do this. She shouldn’t say that the whole orthodox community is against this.
Your experience is valid, and so is hers.
@@MelanieSkipper yes. But she is saying this is th experience for all women that go to Bais Yaakov around the world. That is a false statement.
I feel that she is expressing HER truth. She is entitled to do just that. I wish her well.
Agreed. This is not all Beis Yaakov. While what she is described does exist, there is a range within the ultra Orthodox schooling system. In my town there are two Beis Yaakovs. One for the extra pious and one for girls who lean towards the arts.
Julia undermines her own experience by being ignorant about the extent of the stringent route. Clearly her parents picked a school that was not suited for her. Sounds like they were pretty strict and unsympathetic. Unfortunate for her. All my sympathy until she starts slandering and painting with a broad brush.
Instead of gloating about your positive experience whilst nullifying hers, why don’t you have a heart and help those young women who are more vulnerable and less fortunate in your community?
I wouldn't have known not to be late for the cocktail party either! In the party lifestyle, you're at least a half hour late, if not more! I'd be embarrassed too, but it's not really her fault for not knowing things. When you're so secluded, how are you supposed to know?! Love her gf/bf story! Great interview! She's so strong to be able to leave everything she knows!
What an amazing interview!
The ability of some people to move from one form of zealotry to another that is diametrically opposed never ceases to amaze me .
What a beautiful woman inside and out, i listened to everything she has said and i learned a lot
Julia is a hero to soooo many women. I watched her Netflix documentary & was amazed at her strength, intelligence, & joie de vivre given the circumstances of her life before she left her orthodox life behind! She has had some setbacks in her personal life, but she figures out how to overcome obstacles deliberately placed in her path & learns from her mistakes. She lives big & loves the same way & has had to recover from trusting people who lie & cheat! I love her story & I hope the Netflix documentary comes back for another season! Bravo to you for showcasing this extraordinary woman & allowing her to tell her story without getting in the way. She is a beautiful human being! ❤
She is no hero!
What is the name of this documentary??? I didn't see it.
She is not heroic. She is sadly, depressed and is taking it out on her religion. It is very sad
@@alizafuchs4867 She is not taking it out on her religion. I believe that she never stopped being religious
First of all, she is NO LONGER religious, I may be mistaken, but I dont even think her second husband is Jewish (again if I am wrong, I apologize) Second (and more important), She DEFINITELY takes it out on the religion. If she is no longer religious, that is HER RIGHT and NO ONE may say anything, but she has done everything that she can to make Orthodox religion a bad thing. Being Orthodox is BEAUTIFUL for those who wish and for those who no longer wish to be religious, FINE, but DO NOT badmouth the perfect religion. @@majakatic4862
Julia's reaction after leaving is extreme, too. Autonomy depends on the relationship within the family, not on Juduism rules. My parents were modern orthodox. My father worshiped the ground my mother walked on. What a beautiful relationship. I was educated, including going to the university, and nobody chose my husband.Julia has a new religion. It is very modern and is called me.
Brilliant interview 👏