You guys should take another look at Windows Mixed Reality. It’s improved a lot since your initial video. For less than half the price of a Rift you can get 90% of the experience. I was expecting this video to mention WMR but then I saw it was sponsored by Oculus lol
I agree to a point if you are at least curious but dont want to drop the full price on a current gen headset you could go the wmr route even if it isnt as refined a vr experiance its a great way to break into vr gaming
walmart online store has them new for $180 with controllers, B&Hphoto has the lenovo explorer just the headset new for $99.99, WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS!!!
5:13 Wait, what? Linus actually still uses a GTX 980ti in a build at his house? This man literally has a shelf full of GPU's one and 2 generations newer, as well as AMD comparable performance models and he's still using a Maxwell card in a personal rig. That should speak loud and clear to anybody who is trying to build a budget gaming station for theirselves. You truly do not need the latest model cards and processors to have a great performing PC.
Yeah man, I'm rocking the 4gig GTX 970 with an old FX-8350 CPU and it runs literally everything on high. Even Battlefield 1. Oh and Windows 7 too because fuck 10.
@@samuraimedi4061 I put together a 580 euro build that's just as good or better than this one in the video, but I'm guessing it's because of price change.
@Dylan Stewart Same... I don't think I'll ever be able to afford to buy and run a car and I don't earn much. I have a relatively powerful set up (1080) and can run at high, I want to get a Valve Index, ouch. I can easily afford but, big chunk of your money kinda hurts, if only could pay monthly.
RGB probably accounts for 90% of the system's performance.. Once my friend upgraded his althon 64 system with RGB lighting and it beat my 1080ti intel i7 8th gen system that has no RGB performance enhancers in timespy.
@@notlNSIGHT the old ones kindof suck but have you seen the reverb g2. It looks like it is turning out to be much higher quality with a redesigned controller, 4 cameras, support for being run alongside lighthouse tracking so you can just use index controllers, among other things, now I basically just use the oculus quest with virtual desktop or link.
Not only that, the WMR is horribly optimized. Just the software used to take up 50% CPU on its own. I had an I5 7400 then. edit: AND, the Reverb is $200 more than the Rift. HP is becoming the Atari of VR gaming. Fading into nothingness.
@@notlNSIGHT sounds great, but still too expensive imo. And no, I'm not a choosing beggar. If I can't get something I won't bother and I'm not bothering right now.
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You lost me at i3 8100 xD I run on an i5 3470/1050ti, and my friend on an i5 2400/1050ti. Get outta here with your "low" end cpu hahaha, that thing is far from a min spec cpu. Really disappointed y'all didn't even test the 1050ti. There are plenty of channels and vids out there showing real 1050ti vr footage, and that it is very playable. You basically showed everyone how recommended specs run. Great job.
Funny Dog majority of games it's absolutely fine. Especially with the asw technology mentioned in the video. It really will smooth out low fps most of the time. And many games still can hit the 90fps target. I used a 1050ti with my oculus for 6 months until i bought a 1060 6gb. So yes I have personally used the 1050ti with an oculus, but i did upgrade after 6 months. I would recomend that experience to everyone! The only way you will find a 1050ti bad for vr is if youre already very used to using a high end gpu for vr regularly. If the 1050ti is your first time on vr it will be absolutely fine.
get a windows mixed reality lenovo for low spec computer. A basic spec would be a gtx960 on FX8350. Edit GTX 760 SC can run it but limited lower framerate
I got my pc near the end of last year and made sure it would be ready for vr because it’s something I’ve been very interested in. I built my pc for $500 with an i3 7100 I got on sale and a used gtx 970 for $150 right before mining really made them shoot up in price. I bought a wmr headset, the dell visor, for $150 on eBay, new in box, and I couldn’t be happier. The i3 and 970 handle vr amazingly, not just at bare minimal performance and settings. It’s a very comfortable experience, and I’m quite prone to motion sickness. I tried google cardboard and got nauseous immediately from all of the stuttering. A full vr setup can be easily achieved for $650 or less if you’re willing to be patient and search around. $900 is definitely not the true minimum.
VR will only truly take off when someone releases an 'essential' game/piece of software for it. A massive, multiplayer dungeon crawler would be a good place to start.
hey i have a video idea. Take a bunch of old bad nvidia graphics cards like the gt 730's or something, and then 4x sli them and see how strong they are!
This might have changed since the video was shot and edited, but right now can actually be significantly cheaper. I just recently picked up an RX 570 for $160 which is a far more powerful gpu than a 1050 ti while being half the price of a 1060 6g and still under the 500w power limit (though I found 600w EVGA PSUs to be around the same price anyway). If you take windows 10 out and cheap out a bit on the motherboard and ram, you can get that price down to under $600 for a VR ready machine (not including shipping or the cost to build).
What do you mean? The low spec he showed was barely qble to pass the tests. So that proves anything lower spec wouldn't work. Basically anthything less then a 1050ti you can't run VR
@@Noah-nf1lc playable? You do realize that anything under 90 fps isn't playable, it causes motion sickness. You can't compare it to gaming on a screen, it has to be 90 locked or else your not going to have a good time
Flash forward to today. Cheap, quality VR is on every billboard ever and is shooting itself into the mainstream. Mad to see it, we went from the dk1 to the quest 2
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Linus, I've been watching your videos for about 6 years and I have to say the content is superb. From the sketches, the jokes (good and so awful that they're good), the quality of your videos, the wit, the depth of knowledge, the social justice tech warrior objectiveness. You're brilliant. Genuinely considering moving to Canada one day haha
Last week to back Cybershoes kickstarter For those that didn't know, this treadmill allows you to do everything other treadmills do, but they don't restrict you to not being able to run or make your walking unrealistic with a harness. the seat raises to a standing height of 85cm so it's not exactly seated. Currently they have full funding for production, finished prototypes and planned to ship in Jan 2019. Current possible movements Walk/run Forwards, backwards Diagonal strafe Side strafe by turning head sideways and forwards running Crouching and Jumping will get implemented and have ongoing support if the stretch goals are funded. www.kickstarter.com/projects/cybershoes/cybershoes-step-into-vr/description
the windows mr headsets use sensors in the headsets, the problem with that is that you need to be looking at your hands or the motion tracking doesn't work. look up "low spec gamer vr." he has a few videos of him playing Skyrim vr on a windows mr headset, one that is usually around the $200 mark.
I think my biggest issue about VR is NOT the budget (even though it is pricey) but the fact that you kind of need space to use it. I have about just enough space in my room for a bed, a desk and a chair, and not much more.
I’m really not sure what the purpose of this video was, pretty much everyone that is interested in VR, knows that the GTX 1060 is the best budget gpu for VR. I mean I understand that the cpu can be more budget oriented but that doesn’t really warrant a whole video, and to put the cherry on top, I purchased a Windows Mixed Reality headset for 150 dollars!! And WMR has improved drastically since Linus last did a video on it. So really it seems like Linus might have just made this video for the sponsor, which I completely understand but hey, it is what it is
Now we need a video about cheap ways to play VR say you blue your budget on the pc and cant shill out the $999+ for the equipment. Something like using a Kinect with Google cardboard and some Wii or Switch controllers.
Don't forget to get in on SteamVR Beta. Motion Smoothing is amazing and it will smooth out gameplay on systems with older hardware as well as let you push some super sampling if you have headroom.
I know nothing about VR and I'm researching to see if it's worth it. I was dying for some new HL content, but HL:Alyx being VR only made me a little sad.
I've got a 970 and VR works pretty well for me most the time, some games work great with the settings maxed, others I have to lower the graphics options way down. Oddly Skyrim VR even works great after a little tweaking. I know it's not a PC device, but as far as VR on a budget goes, I'm surprised you didn't mention the Oculus Quest, considering this is a sponsored video. lol I can't wait for Quest, even tho I already have a Rift.
I really liked your “reasons to buy an iPhone” video, because even though those factors were outweighed in your use case, I found it helpful to have a lot of information that didn’t strictly apply to your needs. I think you should do a second video on present day VR featuring Vive and WMR and discuss what they bring to the table, even if they aren’t better options than Oculus in your opinion.
I hate it when the sponsor of a video is directly linked to the content. How are we supposed to know where the ad ends and where the video starts. Occulus aren't the only VR company so this video is more "Minimum config for the occulus rift". Don't get me wrong, I am not commenting on the quality of the content or quality of the video, just the poor separation between ad and 'real' content. Have a nice day, Mathieu.
Very true... They buy the spot so how do we know what's truly acceptable or not. Of course oculous will say it is to sell more hardware... No one but the most truthful company says "na, you won't like that". Instead they say something like they have some magic tech that adds frames to make gameplay seamless.
But Oculus Rift has better backend software than other pc vr companies so has the lowest requirement of all. So basically it really is the minimum rig for pc vr across the board.
It's not really my point. As I have said, I have no problem with the content of the video per say, if it was sponsored by Tunnelbear or Skillshare... The problem would be the same if they had done a 'What is the best Car', sponsored by Audi. Even if the content seems honest, as always.
This isn't talking about the best VR headset company tho, just budget VR consumption, wether or not other VR headset brands were featured or not changes nothing about the topic.
@@333dae This. The video shows that you can get into VR from scratch for $1,400. It doesn't matter that it's a Rift and not a Vive. Given that they provide a system build that *includes Windows*, it's clearly geared for people who are just trying to get into VR, period. These minimum specs will let you play VR. That's it.
I once tested "The Climb" in the Microsoft Store in San Francisco. As a Person who occasionally climbs in real life it good. It would be better if it wouldn't show you so much where to grab. There's basically always only one place to grab. And it really really misses the foot/leg movement. VR needs foot/leg tracking. It's so important
Try the PS move service, it works really well for me for under $100 (excluding a gear VR and compatible Samsung phone). Edit: For the setup, not the PC.
they come with the rift. www.amazon.com/Oculus-Touch-Virtual-Reality-System-pc/dp/B073X8N1YW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1540429817&sr=8-3&keywords=oculus%2Brift&th=1
I have over 500 hrs in VR and its amazing! I do Beat Saber #1 Ranked in Puerto Rico Full Body VR Chat And my headsets are the Lenovo Explorer WMR And the Samsung Odyssey WMR And ask me any doubts you may have about VR and Windows Mixed Reality they are better than linus makes them look.
I want to buy the lenovo but i have a low spec vr ( good for normal gaming) will i be able to run better than with an oculus or rift? Like is it a good choice or is there any little vr games that will work with a low spec?
It is great that you can build a vr pc for this cheap, BUT it is also possible to buy FULL BUILDS that are VR ready AND come with windows for $800. My brother did this and it is working just fine for him.
As a VR developer (check out Oh Captain VR!) I just gotta echo what others are saying: the WMR headsets are great! They're low cost, plus they run 99% of SteamVR games plus Oculus games via ReVive. Additionally, up until recently, I developed on a Dell XPS 15 9560 with a GTX 1050 and everything ran flawlessly! (Now working on a 1060 pc)
I used an rx 470 for a good bit in VR and it was usable on the vive depending on the game. Stuff like rec room, beat saber, and orbus vr ran just fine. Pavlov vr is just on the edge of usable performance in my experience.
Axel Lindorfer i have the rift and rx 470 8GB paired with i5-7500. Every game so far is liquid buttery smooth except for vrchat. Vrchat is an exception because it’s unoptimized
My rx 470 had 4gb of vram. I would certainly recommend more if you could get it though. After upgrading to a 1080ti I couldn't tell a difference in any of those games except orbus vr. I did notice that my i5 6600 was producing bottlenecks/stutter though. (My first 1080ti was defective and broke after 2 weeks so I should go check out the performance of those games again, it may have been the cause of the stutter. It could also be my hard drive, i'm just trying to be as accurate as I can be.)
I have played over 1000h of VR and I can tell you 90 fps is not "required to prevent motion sickness". Fallout 4 (which I have played over 200h in VR) sometimes runs at like 30 fps and I don't get motion sickness at all, even after like 8h straight. It is just a matter of getting your "VR legs". Back when I was using the Oculus Dev Kit 2, I used to get motion sickness after like 10 mins of free locomotion (using thumb sticks to walk) in games. My specs are i5 3750k, GTX 970, and 8gb of ram. Processor, motherboard and ram are all from 2012. I have over 100 VR games combined on my steam and Oculus libraries. Most less demanding VR games easily run at 90 FPS. Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention that I play everything with all VR comfort options turned off. I do still get motion sickness from flying sims and rollercoaster sims.
Yes and no depending on the person. I, for one, get a little queezy if in ASW for an extended period of time (30 minutes or more). ASW however for those occasions where the scene is demanding is fine. The one thing that makes me really sick is if you get somewhere were ASW turns on and off a lot in a short period. those jumps in framerate mess with my head
Likewise! Subnautica often chugs a but in VR but no motion sickness problems here. But for me, I've been using VR since the original Vive pre-order and stereoscopic 3D before that. A lot of people seem to forget that there's people out there who can't play 3D platformers of FPS games without getting motion sick. But these people would probably be able to if they slowly acclimatized themselves. It's the same for VR. A lot of people are under the impression that VR is an one-way ticket to instant motion sickness, but that's pretty much the result of people making the same "lol motion sickness!" joke. In reality, the people making the headsets worked very hard to ensure that the headsets themselves aren't the cause of any motion sickness.
good to know, i have a similar setup as you but my gpu is a gtx770. i was wondering if i would have to change anything else in my setup than the gpu. knowing it works fine with a 970, i will try to find either that or a 980 at a good price ;)
I have a 1060 paired with a Pentium G5600 on a MSI Z370 Gaming Pro Carbon😂. I have the VR ready stamp on all benchmarks and I can run games very well in VR
My PC was VR Ready when I built it 2 years ago, all brand new parts from scratch. Prior to any upgrades I made since then and not including the cost of Windows. It was ~$650 dollars. So 909 dollars, or 770 without including windows, isn't exactly what I'd call bare minimum.
I would get a AMD rx580 instead of a GTX 1060. Because it's cheaper (at least here in Germany it's 209€ for a *8GB* version. Don't buy a 4GB version, it's not worth that 20 bucks saving by far) and has a bit more power. And of course you get more VRAM
It's funny: I'm working on an very similar article for the german vr-legion-page and i am testing a lot with low-end-specs (going down to pentium g4560 and rx560 what is kind of.. uh.. very low end) and even a rx570/8gb (169€!) performs great.
I actually had my oculus rift run on an amd hd 7970 and it worked great for most games on low-medium settings. Bought a 1070 ti because of Pubg after that, now its smoother, but you can definitely game in vr on a budget.
I have a buddy playing on a ryzen 3 and a 1050 with 4GB of RAM. Definitely not a top of the line experience but playable. Can't say I'd recommend it especially if prone to motion sickness.
Running stock Asus TC-605 (i5 haswell gen) with added PSU, 16G RAM sticks and 1060, works fine with Vive for fallout, skyrim, Beat Saber and other games, room scale. The big con for me is the text in VR, in both Fallout (pip boy) and Elite Dangerous, the text is pretty hard to read.
in some of his videos through out the time. Linus: Only 900 dollars, it is cheap me: HOW THE F**k AM I SUPPOSE TO GET THAT MUCH MONEY!!!.... i am just a normal gamer.... a little bit of vrchat, minecraft, GTA 5... But 900 dollars damn. Also linus: This setup for only 1500 Dollars, it is affordable.. EVERY SINGLE PERSON WATCHING HIS VIDEOS!: AND HOW MUCH MONEY ARE YOU MAKING A MONTH AGAIN!!? thank you for your time
You could honestly do just fine with a Pentium G4560 and up. A GTX 1050 Ti and higher is also good as well. Consider the Lenovo Windows Mixed Reality headset as well.
I built my rig as a vr machine, then found out I didn't like vr! Just couldn't get over the fact I had a 'thing' on my head! + I missed the crisp clarity of a 4k panel, vr is just so blurry most of the time, I once heard someone describe it as "its just like being there, only you've forgotten your glasses!"
Idea for a scrapyard wars: have a budget, and make it the requirement that you spend every dollar, exact change. So if your budget is $823, you must spend exactly $823 on the system. This would be challenging, but I feel like it would be easier than the last "no internet" challenge.
Honestly, if you were to buy the same (or extremely similar build) used, you could probably get away with approximately 500$CAD. You can find older i5 or i7 (4th gen) for really cheap and a used GTX 1060 3GB - 6GB can be found from 200$ to 300$CAD used.
Linus: We played vr on cheap for only $1300
Low spec gamer: Hold my Ryzen 3 2200g apu
BACON SUPREMACIST aka your console
Lmfao
Honestly an oculus quest is cheaper and juste better, but I get the joke don’t woooosh me
In A Nutshell r/woooooooooooooooooooooosh
I got that apu xD and a 1050ti can relate 😂
I smell an opportunity with scrapyard wars and VR.
Hell yeah!
yup
please make this happen
seems legit
Omg hell yeah
I just wanna play Minecraft and Beat saber like everyone else
I want Garry's mod VR.
@@mrpotat680 S&box.
@@ChrisD__ yee
Same :(
Vrchat..
When virtual reality gets cheaper then dating, society is doomed
-Scott adams
Like we're not doomed already
@@guillermodieguez239 yes
It’s been pretty much cheaper since it first came out. A lot of money goes into relationships
Big Steve first off food. Not even counting the dates and gas money that goes into them that shit adds up quick as fuck. Then little gifts and shit
Nothing like the real thing
You guys should take another look at Windows Mixed Reality. It’s improved a lot since your initial video. For less than half the price of a Rift you can get 90% of the experience. I was expecting this video to mention WMR but then I saw it was sponsored by Oculus lol
I agree to a point if you are at least curious but dont want to drop the full price on a current gen headset you could go the wmr route even if it isnt as refined a vr experiance its a great way to break into vr gaming
Less than half??? where are you getting those number, it costs bascially the same.
you can get them refurb for about $175 and amazon has them on sale for $200 quite often
Acer windows mixed reality?
walmart online store has them new for $180 with controllers, B&Hphoto has the lenovo explorer just the headset new for $99.99, WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS!!!
5:13 Wait, what? Linus actually still uses a GTX 980ti in a build at his house? This man literally has a shelf full of GPU's one and 2 generations newer, as well as AMD comparable performance models and he's still using a Maxwell card in a personal rig. That should speak loud and clear to anybody who is trying to build a budget gaming station for theirselves. You truly do not need the latest model cards and processors to have a great performing PC.
That doesn't change it being 2 generations old.
That's just for his VR setup I think, check out his server mounted PC build to see his main gaming setup.
Yeah man, I'm rocking the 4gig GTX 970 with an old FX-8350 CPU and it runs literally everything on high. Even Battlefield 1.
Oh and Windows 7 too because fuck 10.
There not his their the groups?
this is what i thought haha with all the hardware they have access to you'd think he'd game on the latest and best
Great video. VR is cheaper than ever and there are tons of great experiences. Next time you are trying a heavy load VR game, I recommend Lone Echo!
You're not supposed to be here
Although this was 2 years ago, I would not consider this “budget”
this didn’t age well
quest 2 costs 100 usd now
$399??? Any wise consumer would spend that on a Pewdiepie chair instead…
HAHAH! The funny thing is i actually bought the pewdiepie chair before i bought my beloved rift! GG
@@Bearlogger We solute you, fellow nine-year-old.
THAT'S A LOTTA DAMAGE
You could actually buy good vr for price of both
@@untitled6391 Indian?
"A budget vr rig for $908."
Yep certainly an "budget rig"
Pretty budget for VR so, lol.
NyanNinja 99 thing is most people have decent pc. So the budget part is the gpu really
@@samuraimedi4061 I put together a 580 euro build that's just as good or better than this one in the video, but I'm guessing it's because of price change.
@@grqfes yeah. Mining is gone, world peace is back
NyanNinja 99 a*
They had to wait to make this video until two full rolls of toilet paper had been used up.
A large price to pay in this day of age. -Quarantine 2020
When you where hitting 90 fps all you needed to do was get an RGB VR headset and you would instantly get another 15 fps.
can u elaborate on that a bit? is there other kinds of colour formats than red,green,blue and how to search for that? Rgb vr came up with null.
Aini it was a joke
Aini r/wooosh
@AcurracyIsGone r/woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooshwith45os
@AcurracyIsGone r/subsyouwishwerereal
Saving up for a car then I saw this...maybe next month
Same with videos I saw a couple weeks ago
It's been 7 month oi
@Dylan Stewart Same... I don't think I'll ever be able to afford to buy and run a car and I don't earn much.
I have a relatively powerful set up (1080) and can run at high, I want to get a Valve Index, ouch. I can easily afford but, big chunk of your money kinda hurts, if only could pay monthly.
RGB probably accounts for 90% of the system's performance.. Once my friend upgraded his althon 64 system with RGB lighting and it beat my 1080ti intel i7 8th gen system that has no RGB performance enhancers in timespy.
try H264ify first.
All your friend needs now is a ram water cooler.
TheOnlySphere inTheWeb 1 RGB LED adds 1fps. Have fun! ;)
@@f8f8esufj2a1 Just download it.
Wow, can't wait to see the performance increase on pornhub.
Linus I heard you needed friends so sent you a friend request ;)
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big oof
@@rikis213 in the game he was showing in VR
Paradise Decay ikr even though he won’t except it
can you send me a friend request as well? ;(
If you weren't sponsored you would mention WMR. Which also has optimisation because it is integrated into windows
@@notlNSIGHT the old ones kindof suck but have you seen the reverb g2. It looks like it is turning out to be much higher quality with a redesigned controller, 4 cameras, support for being run alongside lighthouse tracking so you can just use index controllers, among other things, now I basically just use the oculus quest with virtual desktop or link.
Not only that, the WMR is horribly optimized. Just the software used to take up 50% CPU on its own. I had an I5 7400 then. edit: AND, the Reverb is $200 more than the Rift. HP is becoming the Atari of VR gaming. Fading into nothingness.
@@notlNSIGHT you can adjust render scale in steamvr, the index also has a really high res display that is hard to run at max res
Who the heck would buy a vr with pennies
Taikamuna Hey! I saw you on jacksfilms video. Didn't knew you were watching Linus tech tips. Nice to meet ya, fam.
he's everywhere for me, literally everywhere
I can't escape him
please send help
Same. I feel like im being stalked
*-mrbeast-*
me.
-Makes a budget video
-Holds RTX graphics card
-hmmmm
FeelsBadMan
Why does he keep wearing Vessel shirts? Is he throwing shade at Luke?
I think his Vessel shirts are 80% of his wardrobe
Thanks for covering VR Linus tech Media!! Even if sponsored 😜 VR needs mainstream!
Tyriel Wood vr will only be mainstream when it gets some good games
Good games are already there, the problem is that people think that they are not there :)
@@Tyrielwood subjective
absolutely, but you have to try to know. Because perception is very different in VR. It never translates well on a flat screen.
Hi Tyriel!!!
5:59 “oh neat, you can interact with the desktop WOAHHHHH THATS TRIPPY”
*Looks for cheap vr headset*
*sees „sponsored by oculus rift“*
@@notlNSIGHT sounds great, but still too expensive imo. And no, I'm not a choosing beggar. If I can't get something I won't bother and I'm not bothering right now.
t2hk Oculus Quest 2 just came out for 299$ what you think now?
@@NotYourIliad maybe
Current balance: $30.91, should be enough right?
I reccomend not eating for 7 days a week 😂. But fr save when you can its not that hard
should be enough for a ski mask and a hammer.
*opens PcPartPicker*
*Clicks on Guides*
Boom. Question answered.
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It’s crazy how vr just 1 year ago was so much more different than it is now
And now with quest 2 even more
just a WEEK later 😂
Little jimmy: mom can we get a vr headset
Mom: no we don't have a good computer
Oculus quest: knocks on door
Allow me to introduce myself
VR for a budget? LowSpecGamer? Where are you?
Already exists
He already did that
@@one-stopkilling2236 I know... That's why I even wrote this comment in the first place. To remind that it's there
@@ERROR_-_404 ok i see carry on
*woosh* these guys
You lost me at i3 8100 xD I run on an i5 3470/1050ti, and my friend on an i5 2400/1050ti. Get outta here with your "low" end cpu hahaha, that thing is far from a min spec cpu. Really disappointed y'all didn't even test the 1050ti. There are plenty of channels and vids out there showing real 1050ti vr footage, and that it is very playable. You basically showed everyone how recommended specs run. Great job.
Funny Dog majority of games it's absolutely fine. Especially with the asw technology mentioned in the video. It really will smooth out low fps most of the time. And many games still can hit the 90fps target. I used a 1050ti with my oculus for 6 months until i bought a 1060 6gb. So yes I have personally used the 1050ti with an oculus, but i did upgrade after 6 months. I would recomend that experience to everyone! The only way you will find a 1050ti bad for vr is if youre already very used to using a high end gpu for vr regularly. If the 1050ti is your first time on vr it will be absolutely fine.
He should be playing The Forest in VR scary and fun
This video should be remade in a few months, VR has already come extremely far since 2018 and even more exciting stuff is releasing soon
You can get Windows mixed reality really cheap. I got mine with controllers refurbished for 135
@Geg Soda How so?
@Geg Soda In what way? Windows mixed reality can run almost anything the vive or rift can. I just finished playing beatsaber on my WMR headset
Windows Mixed Reality is just a horribly unfitting name for a pretty decent VR headset that can run both HTC Vive and Oculus Rift games.
@Ged Soda are you thinking of the Hollow Lens?
Owen West what specs does your pc have if you don’t mind me asking
I have my phone and cardboard headset for VRPorn,com. I’m good
I had the HTC Vive and struggeled to get it working with the p0rn so I sold it
@@suhdude9775 Motion sickness + pr0n = a bad time
Some good porn sites?
Fury 2k tante-uschi cc ( dot betwenn i and cc )^^
@@darkwowpg the pornhub app (not website) has vr, I don't think it's 3d but it's VR
"Where's your team spirit?"
"At home."
right now, that's good
to think tech would be so advance that you don't even a computer anymore to play Vr
get a windows mixed reality lenovo for low spec computer. A basic spec would be a gtx960 on FX8350.
Edit GTX 760 SC can run it but limited lower framerate
The Lenovo headset is very underrated headset.
I read this in LowSpecGamer's accent
Smoke my Johnson. Lenovo is underrated in general. They’re the only prebuilts I would consider their prices are so friendly compared to others
you call gtx960 as low spec???
i have a gt620 and cant afford a gt1030
fx cpus are all utter garbage, NEVER buy fx
I got my pc near the end of last year and made sure it would be ready for vr because it’s something I’ve been very interested in. I built my pc for $500 with an i3 7100 I got on sale and a used gtx 970 for $150 right before mining really made them shoot up in price. I bought a wmr headset, the dell visor, for $150 on eBay, new in box, and I couldn’t be happier. The i3 and 970 handle vr amazingly, not just at bare minimal performance and settings. It’s a very comfortable experience, and I’m quite prone to motion sickness. I tried google cardboard and got nauseous immediately from all of the stuttering. A full vr setup can be easily achieved for $650 or less if you’re willing to be patient and search around. $900 is definitely not the true minimum.
VR will only truly take off when someone releases an 'essential' game/piece of software for it. A massive, multiplayer dungeon crawler would be a good place to start.
hey i have a video idea. Take a bunch of old bad nvidia graphics cards like the gt 730's or something, and then 4x sli them and see how strong they are!
This might have changed since the video was shot and edited, but right now can actually be significantly cheaper. I just recently picked up an RX 570 for $160 which is a far more powerful gpu than a 1050 ti while being half the price of a 1060 6g and still under the 500w power limit (though I found 600w EVGA PSUs to be around the same price anyway). If you take windows 10 out and cheap out a bit on the motherboard and ram, you can get that price down to under $600 for a VR ready machine (not including shipping or the cost to build).
You didn't quite went into the low spec gamer territory
What do you mean? The low spec he showed was barely qble to pass the tests. So that proves anything lower spec wouldn't work. Basically anthything less then a 1050ti you can't run VR
TheEPICskwock low spec gamer used a 750ti with 2gb gddr5 with playable frame rates
@@TheEPICskwock he managed to run superhot sub 60 fps on a ryzen 2200g apu
LowSpecGamer managed to get some VR games to run on the low end Ryzen APU alone.
@@Noah-nf1lc playable? You do realize that anything under 90 fps isn't playable, it causes motion sickness. You can't compare it to gaming on a screen, it has to be 90 locked or else your not going to have a good time
Flash forward to today. Cheap, quality VR is on every billboard ever and is shooting itself into the mainstream. Mad to see it, we went from the dk1 to the quest 2
8:56 "This peasant seriously called it nonsense"
**cough** UA-cam cardboard mode **cough**
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Fur Q I had to like your comment you made my day but it seems the power buttons broken off hence the price.
@Fur Q LOL thanks
@@maincharacter2677 wtf u smoking starting the bid with 40 pounds when the monitor is worth 5$
I saw this on LowSpecGamer, so the answer is yes.
Linus, I've been watching your videos for about 6 years and I have to say the content is superb. From the sketches, the jokes (good and so awful that they're good), the quality of your videos, the wit, the depth of knowledge, the social justice tech warrior objectiveness. You're brilliant. Genuinely considering moving to Canada one day haha
Last week to back Cybershoes kickstarter
For those that didn't know, this treadmill allows you to do everything other treadmills do, but they don't restrict you to not being able to run or make your walking unrealistic with a harness. the seat raises to a standing height of 85cm so it's not exactly seated. Currently they have full funding for production, finished prototypes and planned to ship in Jan 2019.
Current possible movements
Walk/run
Forwards, backwards
Diagonal strafe
Side strafe by turning head sideways and forwards running
Crouching and Jumping will get implemented and have ongoing support if the stretch goals are funded.
www.kickstarter.com/projects/cybershoes/cybershoes-step-into-vr/description
I'm a backer myself
Wow awesome just the cheap treadmill solution I was looking for
Treadmills were pretty much affordable in Australia up until now because of the shipping, looks great
You can do vr with a ryzen3 1200 and a 1050 and it still works well
Drew142 no
Drew142 u need an i9 9900k and RTX 2080ti
@FeathersOfA Dinasour does a Ryzen 3 2200g and GTX 1050TI 4GB? Work well?
it works but not "well", i would recommend at minimum ryzen 2400g tbh or just wait till q2 2019 for zen2
just my opinion
I5 3570 RX 480 PC for $400. Ez VR
EDIT: Lenovo explorer is $100
Rapper Merch yeeeah then a headset that’s like 7 or 8 hundred attests its all under a k now
gonatrollya the vive is 599$ and the oculus is 399$
and the Windows MR headsets go as low as $200 at times.
@@arko9151 Do any of those have motion tracking? I don't care if it's a knock off so long as it works
the windows mr headsets use sensors in the headsets, the problem with that is that you need to be looking at your hands or the motion tracking doesn't work. look up "low spec gamer vr." he has a few videos of him playing Skyrim vr on a windows mr headset, one that is usually around the $200 mark.
I think my biggest issue about VR is NOT the budget (even though it is pricey) but the fact that you kind of need space to use it.
I have about just enough space in my room for a bed, a desk and a chair, and not much more.
"Looking throw toilet paper tubes" should of used this excuse when i got pink eye from a truck stop baddie.
I’m really not sure what the purpose of this video was, pretty much everyone that is interested in VR, knows that the GTX 1060 is the best budget gpu for VR. I mean I understand that the cpu can be more budget oriented but that doesn’t really warrant a whole video, and to put the cherry on top, I purchased a Windows Mixed Reality headset for 150 dollars!! And WMR has improved drastically since Linus last did a video on it. So really it seems like Linus might have just made this video for the sponsor, which I completely understand but hey, it is what it is
my GTX 960 has run every VR game I've tried perfectly fine, a GTX 1060 is indeed a cheap card and is great for VR but there are cheaper options
Nick Rogers the reason they didn't do the 960 is because some of the vr rendering tricks done by nvidia are only on the 10 series and above
Does it matter if I have only 3GB version.
The purpose of the video is to reach people who aren't as knowledgeable as you about VR. Duh..
For what it's worth, I didn't know my 1060 machine can do VR. So I might run some benchmarks, and may get a headset. :)
Couldn't you have gone deeper? OCULUS has many tools and programs to further lower the graphics and increase the performance.
Now we need a video about cheap ways to play VR say you blue your budget on the pc and cant shill out the $999+ for the equipment. Something like using a Kinect with Google cardboard and some Wii or Switch controllers.
The fact you saved toilet paper tubes just for that little gag is funnier than the actual joke itself.
I thought a mixed reality vr company would sponsor this video
I played beatsaber and onward with a gt 1030 and 4gb of ram yes its very possible and no motion sickness. I also have a htc vive
Don't forget to get in on SteamVR Beta. Motion Smoothing is amazing and it will smooth out gameplay on systems with older hardware as well as let you push some super sampling if you have headroom.
I can’t believe this until I see it with my eyes
it depends on the beatsaber lvls difficulty bc some expert+ lvls lag my 1070OC, i5 7600k and 16gb of ram
reading ur comment already made me throw up. i can feel the motion sickness from here
0:43 When Google, Oculus and The Verge sponsores a video👀
Who's here for Half Life: Alyx 😂
me lmao
I know nothing about VR and I'm researching to see if it's worth it. I was dying for some new HL content, but HL:Alyx being VR only made me a little sad.
@@InsaneDeck definitely worth it , future of gaming is VR
Bruh same
Yes yes
I’ll wait 5 years for VR to be at ready player one level.
Why wait? the longer and more people wait, the longer and more it's going to take to get to ready player 1 levels...
I've got a 970 and VR works pretty well for me most the time, some games work great with the settings maxed, others I have to lower the graphics options way down. Oddly Skyrim VR even works great after a little tweaking.
I know it's not a PC device, but as far as VR on a budget goes, I'm surprised you didn't mention the Oculus Quest, considering this is a sponsored video. lol I can't wait for Quest, even tho I already have a Rift.
I just want any vr set that can play beat saber
I really liked your “reasons to buy an iPhone” video, because even though those factors were outweighed in your use case, I found it helpful to have a lot of information that didn’t strictly apply to your needs.
I think you should do a second video on present day VR featuring Vive and WMR and discuss what they bring to the table, even if they aren’t better options than Oculus in your opinion.
Just look at the potato masher vr video, running vr on a 1st gen i5 and a 760
I hate it when the sponsor of a video is directly linked to the content. How are we supposed to know where the ad ends and where the video starts.
Occulus aren't the only VR company so this video is more "Minimum config for the occulus rift".
Don't get me wrong, I am not commenting on the quality of the content or quality of the video, just the poor separation between ad and 'real' content.
Have a nice day,
Mathieu.
Very true... They buy the spot so how do we know what's truly acceptable or not. Of course oculous will say it is to sell more hardware... No one but the most truthful company says "na, you won't like that". Instead they say something like they have some magic tech that adds frames to make gameplay seamless.
But Oculus Rift has better backend software than other pc vr companies so has the lowest requirement of all. So basically it really is the minimum rig for pc vr across the board.
It's not really my point. As I have said, I have no problem with the content of the video per say, if it was sponsored by Tunnelbear or Skillshare...
The problem would be the same if they had done a 'What is the best Car', sponsored by Audi. Even if the content seems honest, as always.
This isn't talking about the best VR headset company tho, just budget VR consumption, wether or not other VR headset brands were featured or not changes nothing about the topic.
@@333dae This. The video shows that you can get into VR from scratch for $1,400. It doesn't matter that it's a Rift and not a Vive. Given that they provide a system build that *includes Windows*, it's clearly geared for people who are just trying to get into VR, period. These minimum specs will let you play VR. That's it.
I once tested "The Climb" in the Microsoft Store in San Francisco. As a Person who occasionally climbs in real life it good. It would be better if it wouldn't show you so much where to grab. There's basically always only one place to grab. And it really really misses the foot/leg movement. VR needs foot/leg tracking. It's so important
Anyone else waiting for him to take out his sonic screwdriver, revealing he´s been real life Doctor Who all the time?
Try the PS move service, it works really well for me for under $100 (excluding a gear VR and compatible Samsung phone).
Edit: For the setup, not the PC.
Are thand controllers you are using for Robo Recall part of the Oculus Rift setup, or some third party input device?
they come with the rift. www.amazon.com/Oculus-Touch-Virtual-Reality-System-pc/dp/B073X8N1YW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1540429817&sr=8-3&keywords=oculus%2Brift&th=1
I like how you see he ignored the fact that you can get a windows trial and just put in a command to register it as a real copy.
tell me your secrets
WE ? Look up “how to remove windows 10 watermark permanently.
You guys need to try DCS in VR...it’d be interesting to see how you guys get such a system intensive game to run.
I play VR on a 1060 6gb and an 8th gen i3 and I have never had any problems running games.
I have over 500 hrs in VR and its amazing!
I do Beat Saber #1 Ranked in Puerto Rico
Full Body VR Chat
And my headsets are the Lenovo Explorer WMR
And the Samsung Odyssey WMR
And ask me any doubts you may have about VR and Windows Mixed Reality they are better than linus makes them look.
I love the Lenovo headset.
I have the hp win mr and it works really well
@@smokemyjohnson6755 yeah lenovo is awesome
I want to buy the lenovo but i have a low spec vr ( good for normal gaming) will i be able to run better than with an oculus or rift? Like is it a good choice or is there any little vr games that will work with a low spec?
@@thenessbi what is your gpu my friend?
Their low end from 2 years ago is better than my computer. Great.
"...the Crisis of VR..." yea right, that one goes to DCS World by a long shot.
yup
*DO A REVIEW ON OCLULUS QUEST*
No i will not
Yeah you can ,its called going outside
**laugh track plays to hide the pain**
Specially if live in a warzone.
The funs.
Fuck that dood I wanna do to Skyrim and fucking play "kill the boxes with light sabers" you can't to that irl can you??? Are you the dragonborn???
ouch
that would be real reality
It is great that you can build a vr pc for this cheap, BUT it is also possible to buy FULL BUILDS that are VR ready AND come with windows for $800. My brother did this and it is working just fine for him.
As a VR developer (check out Oh Captain VR!) I just gotta echo what others are saying: the WMR headsets are great! They're low cost, plus they run 99% of SteamVR games plus Oculus games via ReVive. Additionally, up until recently, I developed on a Dell XPS 15 9560 with a GTX 1050 and everything ran flawlessly! (Now working on a 1060 pc)
Linus: Talks about budget PC
Also Linus: *Builds budget PC with 1000 dollar Graphics card*
A GTX 1060 is $1000? Since when?
$1000 GPU? A GTX 1060 is about $200...
*”Sponsored by Oculus Rift”* aaaaand I’m out
Linus: can you game in VR on a Budget?
Oculus Quest: i think so
I think the next scrap yard wars needs to be a VR gaming rig challenge...
What about AMD GPUs... I mean the Radeon RX 570 is right between the GTX 1050ti and the GTX 1060🤔
I used an rx 470 for a good bit in VR and it was usable on the vive depending on the game. Stuff like rec room, beat saber, and orbus vr ran just fine. Pavlov vr is just on the edge of usable performance in my experience.
@@ILoveSlyFoxHound does your RX 470 has 4GB of VRAM or 8GB?
Axel Lindorfer i have the rift and rx 470 8GB paired with i5-7500. Every game so far is liquid buttery smooth except for vrchat. Vrchat is an exception because it’s unoptimized
My rx 470 had 4gb of vram. I would certainly recommend more if you could get it though. After upgrading to a 1080ti I couldn't tell a difference in any of those games except orbus vr. I did notice that my i5 6600 was producing bottlenecks/stutter though. (My first 1080ti was defective and broke after 2 weeks so I should go check out the performance of those games again, it may have been the cause of the stutter. It could also be my hard drive, i'm just trying to be as accurate as I can be.)
@@Ahmadsyar VRchat isn't necessarily particularly unoptimized, you can just have an avatar with 100 dynamic bones :P
I have played over 1000h of VR and I can tell you 90 fps is not "required to prevent motion sickness". Fallout 4 (which I have played over 200h in VR) sometimes runs at like 30 fps and I don't get motion sickness at all, even after like 8h straight. It is just a matter of getting your "VR legs". Back when I was using the Oculus Dev Kit 2, I used to get motion sickness after like 10 mins of free locomotion (using thumb sticks to walk) in games. My specs are i5 3750k, GTX 970, and 8gb of ram. Processor, motherboard and ram are all from 2012. I have over 100 VR games combined on my steam and Oculus libraries. Most less demanding VR games easily run at 90 FPS.
Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention that I play everything with all VR comfort options turned off. I do still get motion sickness from flying sims and rollercoaster sims.
Yes and no depending on the person. I, for one, get a little queezy if in ASW for an extended period of time (30 minutes or more). ASW however for those occasions where the scene is demanding is fine. The one thing that makes me really sick is if you get somewhere were ASW turns on and off a lot in a short period. those jumps in framerate mess with my head
Wait until you get someone who gets easily gets motion sick. I have someone who does, who gets ill just by playing first person shooters on TV.
Likewise! Subnautica often chugs a but in VR but no motion sickness problems here. But for me, I've been using VR since the original Vive pre-order and stereoscopic 3D before that. A lot of people seem to forget that there's people out there who can't play 3D platformers of FPS games without getting motion sick. But these people would probably be able to if they slowly acclimatized themselves. It's the same for VR. A lot of people are under the impression that VR is an one-way ticket to instant motion sickness, but that's pretty much the result of people making the same "lol motion sickness!" joke. In reality, the people making the headsets worked very hard to ensure that the headsets themselves aren't the cause of any motion sickness.
good to know, i have a similar setup as you but my gpu is a gtx770. i was wondering if i would have to change anything else in my setup than the gpu. knowing it works fine with a 970, i will try to find either that or a 980 at a good price ;)
yeah. 41 days of vr, seems legit
Can you make a VR Gaming setup video, and how to download and setup for VR games, such as beat saber?
Eye tracking will help a lot in future headsets
Cannot wait for eye tracking. Racing in VR is going to be so much more immersive!
I have a 1060 paired with a Pentium G5600 on a MSI Z370 Gaming Pro Carbon😂. I have the VR ready stamp on all benchmarks and I can run games very well in VR
I play fallout 4 vr on a 1050 ti and it is a great experience
May i know ur pc spec, i am having a 1050ti as well
Linus' budget: 900 dollars
My budget: 10 dollars
My PC was VR Ready when I built it 2 years ago, all brand new parts from scratch. Prior to any upgrades I made since then and not including the cost of Windows. It was ~$650 dollars. So 909 dollars, or 770 without including windows, isn't exactly what I'd call bare minimum.
I would get a AMD rx580 instead of a GTX 1060. Because it's cheaper (at least here in Germany it's 209€ for a *8GB* version. Don't buy a 4GB version, it's not worth that 20 bucks saving by far) and has a bit more power. And of course you get more VRAM
It's funny: I'm working on an very similar article for the german vr-legion-page and i am testing a lot with low-end-specs (going down to pentium g4560 and rx560 what is kind of.. uh.. very low end) and even a rx570/8gb (169€!) performs great.
Yes i probly would buy a rx 580 Instead of a 1060 6gb.
Ps: i am also live in Germany
I actually had my oculus rift run on an amd hd 7970 and it worked great for most games on low-medium settings. Bought a 1070 ti because of Pubg after that, now its smoother, but you can definitely game in vr on a budget.
I have the same card, is it good for vr? I always hear people saying amd is shit for vr compared to Nvidia
I have a buddy playing on a ryzen 3 and a 1050 with 4GB of RAM. Definitely not a top of the line experience but playable. Can't say I'd recommend it especially if prone to motion sickness.
if you you want buget vr get a windows mixed reality
You would prolly spend more money on buying batteries for the controller..
buy rechargeable ones then it would cost the same as using electricity
you would also have to by over 500 battires to cost the same as the headset and controllers
Running stock Asus TC-605 (i5 haswell gen) with added PSU, 16G RAM sticks and 1060, works fine with Vive for fallout, skyrim, Beat Saber and other games, room scale.
The big con for me is the text in VR, in both Fallout (pip boy) and Elite Dangerous, the text is pretty hard to read.
in some of his videos through out the time.
Linus: Only 900 dollars, it is cheap
me: HOW THE F**k AM I SUPPOSE TO GET THAT MUCH MONEY!!!.... i am just a normal gamer.... a little bit of vrchat, minecraft, GTA 5... But 900 dollars damn.
Also linus: This setup for only 1500 Dollars, it is affordable..
EVERY SINGLE PERSON WATCHING HIS VIDEOS!: AND HOW MUCH MONEY ARE YOU MAKING A MONTH AGAIN!!?
thank you for your time
You could honestly do just fine with a Pentium G4560 and up. A GTX 1050 Ti and higher is also good as well. Consider the Lenovo Windows Mixed Reality headset as well.
I ran a i5-2450p and strix 660ti with my vive back in 2016. Ran perfectly fine.
7:25 and 7:41 - the top right corner says "LOW FPS". So, how is it working good then?
Thanks to ASW, works just fine.
Hahaha, does it?
Actual fps may be low but ASW will fill in additional synthetic frames to smooth it out.
I built my rig as a vr machine, then found out I didn't like vr! Just couldn't get over the fact I had a 'thing' on my head! + I missed the crisp clarity of a 4k panel, vr is just so blurry most of the time, I once heard someone describe it as "its just like being there, only you've forgotten your glasses!"
I play on a 3.2 quad core with a r9 4gb and 4gb of ram with a dk2 and psmove controllers runs everything on high with no problems
I use a WMR headset at 60 hz due to nvidia optimus. Its pretty alright.
"Where's your team spirit?"
"At home"
BEST PART OF THE VIDEO.
Idea for a scrapyard wars: have a budget, and make it the requirement that you spend every dollar, exact change. So if your budget is $823, you must spend exactly $823 on the system. This would be challenging, but I feel like it would be easier than the last "no internet" challenge.
Honestly, if you were to buy the same (or extremely similar build) used, you could probably get away with approximately 500$CAD. You can find older i5 or i7 (4th gen) for really cheap and a used GTX 1060 3GB - 6GB can be found from 200$ to 300$CAD used.