New Sram Apex 12 Speed - Is It A Downgrade?

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  • @malcontent_1
    @malcontent_1 Рік тому +8

    I vote for Apex + Trifox
    Keep that fully sorted Marin as it is

  • @YinzerHouse
    @YinzerHouse Рік тому +4

    Here's something to consider: if you throw that group set on a road bike (especially the Allez), you could make a video about major hill climbs/gradients on a road bike using a MTB cassette. I know a of people who have trouble getting into hills on road bikes because the gearing is so high - Perfect way to get people spinning.
    The other thing you could do is see how big of a front chainring you can fit in combination with that cassette since the road bike frame should be able to take something much bigger than 40T.
    I'm rocking a 44T front 1x with 11-50 in the rear and it's definitely the best of both worlds (speed/climb) but I'm limited by my gravel/MTB frame. Really curious how it might work on a road bike. Either way, great video and looking forward to more!

  • @jayel27
    @jayel27 Рік тому +3

    😂 I have no idea if you made a choice or changed to a whole different topic… I couldn’t keep up with your side tracking. You, my friend, have the gift of gab. World class level chatter. I’m sure you said ended on a good note. I’m sure you will do (or have done) the right thing with that set. Looking forward to the next video. I’ll watch again to figure out what I missed 😅🚴‍♂️

  • @chrisbrewitt
    @chrisbrewitt Рік тому +2

    +1 for new groupset on the trifox Dave.

  • @bubblesezblonde
    @bubblesezblonde Рік тому +1

    I like the idea of putting it on the road bike now that you have explained it. Methinks Munchkin should decide.

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому

      Munchkin wants it on his tricycle 😂

  • @budycelyn
    @budycelyn Рік тому +1

    that cassette is the same one that came with my wifes eagle upgrade kit for her mtb, hg hub fitting for the older type hubs

  • @Stevenv74
    @Stevenv74 Рік тому +1

    I have apex on my cx bike and the gear lever does get caught on my bar's all the time.

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому

      They took that into account when designing this one…so it shouldn’t happen anymore.

  • @cb6866
    @cb6866 Рік тому +1

    That's supposed to say "Thanks Dave " ....but , tkona rovehanks to ya as well !

  • @tylerbotts3734
    @tylerbotts3734 Рік тому +1

    Did we ever get an update on this groupset and a review?

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому

      It’s been built onto my winter bike and currently testing it out so far so good though.
      ua-cam.com/video/EdJCCA4bC34/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared

  • @charliecook6909
    @charliecook6909 Рік тому +1

    1by 12 with a 50t front chain ring 👌 wpuld be pretty sick

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому

      I’m pretty sure you can get a 50t aero one quick cheap.

  • @malcontent_1
    @malcontent_1 Рік тому +2

    Mechanical!! Yes, please.
    I miss my old Force 22 mechanical

  • @marcelomiyamura9526
    @marcelomiyamura9526 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice vídeo... I would really like to know the weight of each component... I have a gravel bike with this group and apparently it seems to be quite heavy... maybe it's not

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  9 місяців тому

      Thank you. I think you should be able to find the weight online. The heavy part is the cassette.

  • @stevekelly6544
    @stevekelly6544 Рік тому +1

    Wonder how much they’ll charge for the the 12 speed Apex group set…..

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому +1

      I think it’s around £1000

  • @aauden
    @aauden Рік тому +1

    Mechanical FTW!

  • @radekgacek8050
    @radekgacek8050 10 місяців тому +1

    Canyona grizl 6 1by is better than grizl 8 1by ?

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  10 місяців тому

      What’s the 1 by model?

    • @radekgacek8050
      @radekgacek8050 10 місяців тому

      @@DaveNoakes canyona grizl 6 1by is model with 1x11 mechanical sram apex and grizl 8 1 by is 1x12 grx

  • @johnhickman2033
    @johnhickman2033 Рік тому +1

    Seems really complicated to me Dave.
    Glad to see you haven't gone totally electric!

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому

      It’s not any more complicated that other groupsets…well the axs ones are dead easy to fit as they are wireless so less faff to put on.

  • @boostenmkiv
    @boostenmkiv Рік тому +1

    SRAM makes an Apex lever that is designed for a dropper!

    • @markianross
      @markianross Рік тому +1

      They do for the 11 speed Apex. These 12 speed levers look different though - so might not match?

    • @boostenmkiv
      @boostenmkiv Рік тому +1

      @@markianross good point, I haven't seen both in person too see if they "match"

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately I can’t seem to find a 12 speed one.

    • @boostenmkiv
      @boostenmkiv Рік тому

      @@DaveNoakes 12sp doesn't matter unless the brake hood changed, which it might have!

  • @rachelbrodie7932
    @rachelbrodie7932 Рік тому +1

    I have just done the c2c in 1 day and could really have done with that cassette .11,868 ft of climbing . I have a 11-34 😅

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому

      It would be ideal for long hilly rides! Well so long as you weren’t wanting to ride fast.

  • @geemangupp2815
    @geemangupp2815 Рік тому +1

    id say gravel for that groupset,only cos im thinking of getting it for my gravel bike

  • @jbrew44
    @jbrew44 Рік тому +1

    Put it on the bike with the dropper and install a dropper post lever. I would like to see a review on the groupset and a lever. Gives you two subjects for video content.

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому +1

      I was thinking but a dropper lever on drop bars will be awkward to use…I can use my current set up on the hoods or drops…with a lever I’m restricted to one.

  • @anthonybaxendale887
    @anthonybaxendale887 Рік тому +1

    Hi Dave, take the GRX off & replace with your new Sram kit. Then fit your GRX set up on tour Firefox frame to make a road/ light gravel bike 🙂

  • @RazzFazz-Race
    @RazzFazz-Race Рік тому

    Sram NX Cassette fits on a 9speed freehub, that is cool. Not the Apex for a 11s hub.

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому

      Does it fit on a 9speed? I know it fits an 11s shimano hub.

    • @RazzFazz-Race
      @RazzFazz-Race Рік тому +1

      @@DaveNoakes MTB cassettes from 42 to52 Max.sprocket fitting ON 9speed Hubs. I bought a Sunrace Cassette 11-50 that fit ON old Shimano 9speed freehub. I
      made 3 Videos ON my Channel from the Change 3by10 to 1by 12 and 1 for the cassette

    • @RazzFazz-Race
      @RazzFazz-Race Рік тому

      @@DaveNoakes ua-cam.com/video/MziJybM6sn0/v-deo.html

  • @joffbrown
    @joffbrown Рік тому +1

    On the road frame for me

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому +1

      Lots for the road frame build!

  • @cb6866
    @cb6866 Рік тому +1

    Tkona rovehanks Dave....I think it should go on ......my 650B Kona rove , dude ! ......Selfish , I know , but...

  • @markjthomson
    @markjthomson Рік тому +1

    Go the groad route... leave the GRX on the Marin... TRIFOX GROAD!

  • @markroberts7866
    @markroberts7866 Рік тому +2

    Should’ve asked for a new frame and forks to go with your group set 😂

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому +1

      I’m thinking about it 😂

  • @stevekelly6544
    @stevekelly6544 Рік тому +1

    Have Marin send you a Nicasio 2 to put the new groupset on….lol

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому +1

      Ohhh or the gestalt?!

    • @stevekelly6544
      @stevekelly6544 Рік тому

      @@DaveNoakes I’m a fan of the Nicasio, but either would solve your dilemma of not having to mess up your other bikes set up…

  • @frankducett9
    @frankducett9 Рік тому +1

    Put the casette aside and don't let that monster dictate your decision.

  • @TheDoctorhuw
    @TheDoctorhuw Рік тому +1

    Road bike nice to see something a bit quirky!

  • @thegrizzlys
    @thegrizzlys Рік тому +1

    Smash it on the Trifox

  • @manfredrc
    @manfredrc Рік тому +1

    Definitely Trifox

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому +1

      I’m surprised how many of you say the trifox!

  • @robclarke5438
    @robclarke5438 Рік тому +1

    Trifox Dave

  • @BikeLife154
    @BikeLife154 Рік тому +1

    Don’t take off the top tier GRX and put that bottom tier SRAM stuff on it. It’s a step backwards. Give me GRX 810 11 speed over anything SRAM has. I own SRAM AXS XPLR and it’s poor imo.

    • @DaveNoakes
      @DaveNoakes  Рік тому

      This is very good point, I love the GRX and was wondering if it would be a downgrade.

  • @aaron.bailey
    @aaron.bailey Рік тому +1

    Gravel bike