Apologia Studios, I am new to your channel and was very curious about this video. However, I am so disheartened after just 25 minutes of watching, because you have not set this up well to bring in new viewers and it shows. There were SO MANY references to things that I had never heard of: other cult leaders, other cult titles, specific historical instances, etc. I found myself having to stop the video every few minutes to google some sort of information and it quickly turned your enrichment podcast into a burden. Then, when I hit the 25 minutes mark where Y2K is referenced…the host explained it. He made the assumption that some viewers didn’t know what that was (though I’m sure the large majority did), but never bothered doing the same for everything else that only a small cache of people already interested in cults would know. I recognize that the show can’t be stopped for a full explanation of everything; but, good gracious, if you’re going to mention a person’s name 15+ times, make sure to tell your viewers what on earth you’re talking about!! And don’t assume that viewers who wouldn’t know what Y2K was would have any better knowledge of 70 years ago. I can’t even watch this because I have no reference points and I can only imagine how many others feel similarly if they’re brand new to the series.
Y2K was (I’m old so I can clarify for you😂), due to the fact that all computers only had two digits for the year, so the year part of the date was “84” instead of “1984”. They were very concerned that when all these computers went to “00”, they would malfunction and the apocalypse would ensue.
Ohhh I remember my dad going into our computer and changing the shown date to a four digit for the sake of our computer not crashing. I was a freshman in high school… totally remember the freak out!
What I remember about it was that in around 97-98 I was looking at buying some land in Georgia near Dahlonega to build a cabin. At that time, the land was cheap there so I thought I had some time. Right around the so-called Y2K scare I was prepared to buy some land, and it like quadrupled in price because of so many people buying it, because all the computers were going to crash and it was going to be chaos. I remember thinking, damn, I should have bought several pieces of land in 97 and I would have made out.
I mean, if the banks, public utilities etc. didn't bust their behinds to make sure their systems would work, God only knows how rough things may been in some ways.
FYI: "Y2K", or "The Year 2000", was a fear that, based on the way the original computer codes were written, there weren't enough spaces for the clocks/calendars, computers (and all info contained on them, our power grid, everything), would reset or go out. That was the fear. I had just turned 18 and thought people were being ridiculous... and nothing happened.
A whole WEEK!!?? Please find a way to upload split episodes the next day. Unfortunately, a week is too long to keep my attention. I can't rely on YT notifications because they never work right. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I am looking forward to hearing the rest of her story. God Bless 🙏 Love & Peace from SLC, UTAH ❤️
Who was her father? At first I thought it might be Elwood Gallimore but he died just a few months back, and I get the impression whoever her father was died some time ago along with her mother?
The cult I left sounds pretty much the same. Also, I am still having a hard time with the trinity. First, I learned that, that word is not in the bible. Second, It was an invention by the Catholic church. Third, How can God be His Son, when Jesus was on the cross calling for His father? I am listening to John MacArthur and learning a lot. But, I am still having a hard time.
Hi! You've got some valid questions there. I've been a Christian for almost 20 years, and the doctrine of the Trinity is still difficult for me to understand, too. So you shouldn't feel bad for having a hard time with it. To answer your first two questions, you're right, the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, instead it was coined during the early third century AD to describe the Biblical teaching that the Father, Son, and Spirit are one God yet three distinct persons at the same time. A good example of the Trinitarian nature of God in Scripture is Matt. 3:16-17, which describes Christ's baptism in the Jordan. As soon as Jesus came of of the water, the Holy Spirit descended from Heaven in the form of a dove, and God the Father spoke from heaven. In this scene, the Father, Son, and Spirit are present in the same place and time; three distinct persons, yet one God. To respond to your final question, the reason the Jesus could pray to the Father on the cross (and in other Bible passages as well) is because the Son and the Father are two distinct persons within God. Essentially, the Bible teaches that there is one God who exists eternally in three distinct persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Again, this isn't the easiest Christian doctrine to understand, so don't feel bad if you're having a hard time wrapping your head around it. Christian UA-camr Allen Parr (his channel is THE BEAT by Allen Parr) has a really good 5-minute video explaining the doctrine of the Trinity; the video is titled "The Trinity Explained in 4 Very Simple Steps." Christian Pastor and UA-camr Mike Winger also has some sermons on the Trinity as well. And of course John MacArthur is a good resource as well. I hope this was somewhat helpful. I'll pray that you're able to better understand this Biblical teaching.
BeEmboldened will have a podcast episode and UA-cam video on the Trinity with Dr. Roger Olson come out at the end of September. Make sure to check it out 👍 it should help with some of your questions on the Trinity for sure.
And wouldn’t some of the features of a healthy church; people who confess their sins, confess their pain, who are aware of who they need to forgive and actively work on forgiving those that have sinned against them…yes?
Her father was a terrible man, he took advantage of us young girls, and families, he would degrade other men, flirt with all the wives, look at us little girls in a sick way!
Having grown up in a brutally abusive situation myself, I'm going to guess that she meant her mother didn't protect her from the physical abuse. Her mom, probably being abused at the same time was trying to protect herself from the physical contact. In that kind of living situation, the abuser shuts down the mental defenses of the other parent through demoralizing and demeaning them on a consistent basis. When Naomi mentioned being thrown into concrete walls head first, so openly, I knew right then her household was brutal when her father was home.
Not sure how anyone falls for cult rhetoric. The way to avoid this is read the Bible for yourself and do the Ray Comfort "Are you a good person test?". Galatians Anyone who preaches a different Gospel let them be accursed. Do no be fooled. Our God WILL NOT be mocked. Repent and be born again. I am preaching to myself as well. We all fall short of the Glory of God.
@@lancedooley7558 Oh yeah 100%. Your on UA-cam comment sections, it is astonishing how much terrible theology is in the comment section that would be debunked by people if they just once read the bible. Take care brother.
@@nicholasgee9127 I agree brother. I know many Christians just attend church and never read the bible. Part of the Christian faith is studying God's word. A lot that many fail to do. Even I don't read it every single day. God Bless brother and I appreciate the comment. I should be more loving which I do lack. I respond better to hell fire preaching.
@@lancedooley7558 I'm a street preacher out of southeastern CT, love some strong hitting preaching myself. I have a love of doctrine because it is worship and also to protect those I love. We have so much error in the mainstream "church". To protect those I love and myself it is worth digging into the depths of Scripture. Anyway I channel I would highly recommend is DTBM. If your ever in my area you have a spot with our group of believers.
Polygamy is not forbidden in the Bible. Anyone to argue that is just upholding modern norms. You argue with Levitical Law not me to say otherwise. But, it's not something we tend to practice and encourage because life is easier with monogamy. In the same manner, look at how adultery is defined in the Bible, yet we extend its meaning beyond the Bible. It's like saying babies have eternal life. That is not Scriptural. Jesus told Nicodemus how to have eternal life (be born twice). We make up stuff that doesn't coincide to what God says, yet we uphold it as fact because of generational, hand-me-down norms.
Exposing the cult ? First , if you are Christian , your body is temple of God and there is no TATTOOS. If that was done before believing Christ is forgivable.
I think you should keep researching this issue. Your 1 loose scriptural reference would lead me to the opinion THERE IS NO HOTDOGS as well. Using this temple argument against somebody as an offensive tactic is ALWAYS troubling. It leads me to ponder your temple. Wonder how holy you've been keeping it each day. Perfectly? Hmm. The other implication you made That IF it was done before conversion then it is "forgivable"....what Bible did that come from? Mine, and the ones that most non cults use tells me that God does forgive sins, post conversion. Are you of the opinion that you no longer sin? I feel that you should relax from launching attacks until you get your theology in order.
It says do not mark the body. It never says it in the 10 commandments nor does it say its a sin unless you can specifically point me to the verse where its listed as a sin. Also I don't have tattoos.
@@robertknight3354 believing Christ is means that person is now under the covenant of God therefore , need to keep the God’s LAW and his holy temple. There is no excuse of you did convert but still ignorance of God’s order . cutting the skin is forbidden in the OT Israel people and Christians are People of Israel too this is not ethnic law but becoming universal law . Having a tattoo is from pagan culture from western civilization. Never came from Christianity. Do not mix the culture here . how is possible God will allow real Christians to putting a mark in their body comes from pagan roots ? Read R J Rushdoony’s book institute of biblical LAW and understanding what is God’s LAW .
@@andrewgd1858 Now to you this time I will present the same point. Since you seem to be incomplete in your study as well. If what you say is true then you claim to us all now that you don't sin. Forget the ridiculousness of your tattoo arguments. That's always been a foolish point and easily refuted. You are saying a saved person no longer sins. You need to examine your words and your philosophy because they are false. Don't worry, we won't hold it against you.....people sin. Saved or not and you will be forgiven if you confess it. Just to be clear of something you said though....are tattoos a western thing?
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Thanks so much for having me on, guys! -Naomi
Apologia Studios, I am new to your channel and was very curious about this video. However, I am so disheartened after just 25 minutes of watching, because you have not set this up well to bring in new viewers and it shows. There were SO MANY references to things that I had never heard of: other cult leaders, other cult titles, specific historical instances, etc. I found myself having to stop the video every few minutes to google some sort of information and it quickly turned your enrichment podcast into a burden. Then, when I hit the 25 minutes mark where Y2K is referenced…the host explained it. He made the assumption that some viewers didn’t know what that was (though I’m sure the large majority did), but never bothered doing the same for everything else that only a small cache of people already interested in cults would know. I recognize that the show can’t be stopped for a full explanation of everything; but, good gracious, if you’re going to mention a person’s name 15+ times, make sure to tell your viewers what on earth you’re talking about!! And don’t assume that viewers who wouldn’t know what Y2K was would have any better knowledge of 70 years ago. I can’t even watch this because I have no reference points and I can only imagine how many others feel similarly if they’re brand new to the series.
Im really happy this was covered by a bigger channel I grew up in this sect.... did pol ygamy and all of it its something else.
The work Naomi and her ministry/team are doing is super important. The Body/Church should get behind them and support them.
Thank you so much for your support and encouragement!
Y2K was (I’m old so I can clarify for you😂), due to the fact that all computers only had two digits for the year, so the year part of the date was “84” instead of “1984”. They were very concerned that when all these computers went to “00”, they would malfunction and the apocalypse would ensue.
Ohhh I remember my dad going into our computer and changing the shown date to a four digit for the sake of our computer not crashing. I was a freshman in high school… totally remember the freak out!
What I remember about it was that in around 97-98 I was looking at buying some land in Georgia near Dahlonega to build a cabin. At that time, the land was cheap there so I thought I had some time. Right around the so-called Y2K scare I was prepared to buy some land, and it like quadrupled in price because of so many people buying it, because all the computers were going to crash and it was going to be chaos. I remember thinking, damn, I should have bought several pieces of land in 97 and I would have made out.
This is interesting. I can definitely relate to some of this.
😂 I was 16 and my dad was the head of IT for a mid-sized Corporation. They were preparing like it was the apocalypse and then….. nothing
Lol, I was 9 and remember asking my dad, "won't the computers think the year is 00 instead of 99. Lol, glad no one I knew was scared.
As you said, we prepared. There were many updates to all the affected devices.
Y2K: Because we really didn't know if computers were going to get messed up, I made sure that I got my daughters' birth certificates beforehand.
I mean, if the banks, public utilities etc. didn't bust their behinds to make sure their systems would work, God only knows how rough things may been in some ways.
FYI: "Y2K", or "The Year 2000", was a fear that, based on the way the original computer codes were written, there weren't enough spaces for the clocks/calendars, computers (and all info contained on them, our power grid, everything), would reset or go out. That was the fear. I had just turned 18 and thought people were being ridiculous... and nothing happened.
I remember this fallacious rhetoric. I was 13.
Great episode bur revelation is not scary like Jerry mentioned, if you actually understand it. You are blessed if you read it.
A whole WEEK!!?? Please find a way to upload split episodes the next day. Unfortunately, a week is too long to keep my attention. I can't rely on YT notifications because they never work right. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I am looking forward to hearing the rest of her story.
God Bless 🙏 Love & Peace from SLC, UTAH ❤️
Thank you for watching, Ms. Ghost!
Have you done anything on Kathryn Kuhlman? We have people still today in our church who were influenced by her and believe in word of knowledge etc..
Yes! So many big named false teachers are still being venerated by contemporary influential brothers and sisters.
All was well until she threw her husband under the bus 😅 (being late and all) Great episode!
Bahaha...I didn't even remember doing that, so I hope it served a purpose 😂. He laughed, so it all worked out okay. -Naomi
Who was her father? At first I thought it might be Elwood Gallimore but he died just a few months back, and I get the impression whoever her father was died some time ago along with her mother?
Thats a name I havent heard in awhile... I went to his church till my later teens, and he was a friend of the family... feel free to message me.
The cult I left sounds pretty much the same. Also, I am still having a hard time with the trinity. First, I learned that, that word is not in the bible. Second, It was an invention by the Catholic church. Third, How can God be His Son, when Jesus was on the cross calling for His father? I am listening to John MacArthur and learning a lot. But, I am still having a hard time.
Hi! You've got some valid questions there. I've been a Christian for almost 20 years, and the doctrine of the Trinity is still difficult for me to understand, too. So you shouldn't feel bad for having a hard time with it. To answer your first two questions, you're right, the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, instead it was coined during the early third century AD to describe the Biblical teaching that the Father, Son, and Spirit are one God yet three distinct persons at the same time. A good example of the Trinitarian nature of God in Scripture is Matt. 3:16-17, which describes Christ's baptism in the Jordan. As soon as Jesus came of of the water, the Holy Spirit descended from Heaven in the form of a dove, and God the Father spoke from heaven. In this scene, the Father, Son, and Spirit are present in the same place and time; three distinct persons, yet one God.
To respond to your final question, the reason the Jesus could pray to the Father on the cross (and in other Bible passages as well) is because the Son and the Father are two distinct persons within God. Essentially, the Bible teaches that there is one God who exists eternally in three distinct persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).
Again, this isn't the easiest Christian doctrine to understand, so don't feel bad if you're having a hard time wrapping your head around it. Christian UA-camr Allen Parr (his channel is THE BEAT by Allen Parr) has a really good 5-minute video explaining the doctrine of the Trinity; the video is titled "The Trinity Explained in 4 Very Simple Steps." Christian Pastor and UA-camr Mike Winger also has some sermons on the Trinity as well. And of course John MacArthur is a good resource as well.
I hope this was somewhat helpful. I'll pray that you're able to better understand this Biblical teaching.
@@StarrySeafarer Thank you kindly.
BeEmboldened will have a podcast episode and UA-cam video on the Trinity with Dr. Roger Olson come out at the end of September. Make sure to check it out 👍 it should help with some of your questions on the Trinity for sure.
How about regeneration like Doctor Who?
I’m from Northern,NY.
And wouldn’t some of the features of a healthy church; people who confess their sins, confess their pain, who are aware of who they need to forgive and actively work on forgiving those that have sinned against them…yes?
So I'm a little confused as to the cusin part. Though polygamy may be illegal, having children with multiple partners is not. So why the deception?
Her father was a terrible man, he took advantage of us young girls, and families, he would degrade other men, flirt with all the wives, look at us little girls in a sick way!
What is your dads name ?
Phillip Cleveland
Cool video anyway 😓
Mother did not protect you, but she was caring and a darling I'm still bit confused about what this means...
Having grown up in a brutally abusive situation myself, I'm going to guess that she meant her mother didn't protect her from the physical abuse. Her mom, probably being abused at the same time was trying to protect herself from the physical contact. In that kind of living situation, the abuser shuts down the mental defenses of the other parent through demoralizing and demeaning them on a consistent basis. When Naomi mentioned being thrown into concrete walls head first, so openly, I knew right then her household was brutal when her father was home.
Not sure how anyone falls for cult rhetoric. The way to avoid this is read the Bible for yourself and do the Ray Comfort "Are you a good person test?".
Galatians
Anyone who preaches a different Gospel let them be accursed.
Do no be fooled. Our God WILL NOT be mocked. Repent and be born again. I am preaching to myself as well. We all fall short of the Glory of God.
Remember that you too were once in darkness. Someone who doesn't know Jesus is easily persuaded to a cult with a charismatic leader.
@@nicholasgee9127 true. We do have the Bible though. We should all read the word for ourselves. This puts a stop to all false everything.
@@lancedooley7558
Oh yeah 100%. Your on UA-cam comment sections, it is astonishing how much terrible theology is in the comment section that would be debunked by people if they just once read the bible.
Take care brother.
@@nicholasgee9127 I agree brother. I know many Christians just attend church and never read the bible. Part of the Christian faith is studying God's word. A lot that many fail to do. Even I don't read it every single day. God Bless brother and I appreciate the comment. I should be more loving which I do lack. I respond better to hell fire preaching.
@@lancedooley7558
I'm a street preacher out of southeastern CT, love some strong hitting preaching myself. I have a love of doctrine because it is worship and also to protect those I love. We have so much error in the mainstream "church". To protect those I love and myself it is worth digging into the depths of Scripture. Anyway I channel I would highly recommend is DTBM. If your ever in my area you have a spot with our group of believers.
Polygamy is not forbidden in the Bible. Anyone to argue that is just upholding modern norms. You argue with Levitical Law not me to say otherwise. But, it's not something we tend to practice and encourage because life is easier with monogamy. In the same manner, look at how adultery is defined in the Bible, yet we extend its meaning beyond the Bible.
It's like saying babies have eternal life. That is not Scriptural. Jesus told Nicodemus how to have eternal life (be born twice). We make up stuff that doesn't coincide to what God says, yet we uphold it as fact because of generational, hand-me-down norms.
Exactly right on polygamy, but specifically polygyny.
Exposing the cult ? First , if you are Christian , your body is temple of God and there is no TATTOOS.
If that was done before believing Christ is forgivable.
I think you should keep researching this issue.
Your 1 loose scriptural reference would lead me to the opinion THERE IS NO HOTDOGS as well.
Using this temple argument against somebody as an offensive tactic is ALWAYS troubling. It leads me to ponder your temple. Wonder how holy you've been keeping it each day. Perfectly? Hmm.
The other implication you made
That IF it was done before conversion then it is "forgivable"....what Bible did that come from? Mine, and the ones that most non cults use tells me that God does forgive sins, post conversion.
Are you of the opinion that you no longer sin?
I feel that you should relax from launching attacks until you get your theology in order.
It says do not mark the body. It never says it in the 10 commandments nor does it say its a sin unless you can specifically point me to the verse where its listed as a sin. Also I don't have tattoos.
@@robertknight3354 believing Christ is means that person is now under the covenant of God therefore , need to keep the God’s LAW and his holy temple. There is no excuse of you did convert but still ignorance of God’s order . cutting the skin is forbidden in the OT Israel people and Christians are People of Israel too this is not ethnic law but becoming universal law . Having a tattoo is from pagan culture from western civilization.
Never came from Christianity. Do not mix the culture here . how is possible God will allow real Christians to putting a mark in their body comes from pagan roots ? Read R J Rushdoony’s book institute of biblical LAW and understanding what is God’s LAW .
@@andrewgd1858 Now to you this time I will present the same point. Since you seem to be incomplete in your study as well.
If what you say is true then you claim to us all now that you don't sin.
Forget the ridiculousness of your tattoo arguments. That's always been a foolish point and easily refuted.
You are saying a saved person no longer sins. You need to examine your words and your philosophy because they are false. Don't worry, we won't hold it against you.....people sin. Saved or not and you will be forgiven if you confess it.
Just to be clear of something you said though....are tattoos a western thing?