The Rise of Modern Witchcraft | Guests: Jeremiah Roberts & Andrew Soncrant of 'Cultish' | Ep 666
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2022
- Today we’re joined by Jeremiah Roberts and Andrew Soncrant, hosts of the podcast "Cultish," to talk all things cults and the occult. We look into Gen Z’s obsession with manifesting, tarot cards and “WitchTok,” and what the Bible really says about the spiritual realm. Then, we explore whether we should really be paying attention to signs and symbols. We discuss demonic possession and oppression and what that really looks like, in contrast to movies and television - such as "Stranger Things" or "Doctor Strange" - that portray occult content.
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The Rise of Modern Witchcraft | Guests: Jeremiah Roberts & Andrew Soncrant of 'Cultish' | Ep 666
To everyone commenting the irony that this is 666 - it’s not irony! It was planned. ;)
😅😅😅
Well done
BETH! I checked out your merch but there's not much on there...I love the "Be a Salmon" sticker but don't do vinyl for the chemical make up. I'd love similar on a cotton hat or shirt....! I love the designs for a respectable ruckus as well though ✨💕 God bless
The US is the Babylon described in Revelation 17, which descibes a future attack on America initated by Russia & China for not repenting as a nation and participating in ungodly, Satanic practices. Also, the city of Babylon in Revelation 17 is NYC.
Allie Beth Stuckey, thank you so much for doing this episode! I love how God always shows us what we need to know in His perfect timing! Praise God!
I am a devout Christian trying to teach my daughter in the ways of Christ. My four year old daughter is starting universal pre k and during orientation the school was saying that during after care they will have someone to come in and do yoga and mindfulness with the kids. My soul was very unsettled when I was hearing this like the Holy Spirit was warning me not to let my daughter participate in this. Then I see this episode and these guys confirmed what I already knew about the practice of yoga and how it does not fit into Christianity. I will be writing a letter to the school asking my daughter not to participate in it. I hate to be "that Mom" but my daughter's salvation and safety is my top priority and I honestly don't care what anyone else thinks. It is what God thinks that is most important! Thank you!
When I was unsaved I was a Yoga Teacher but when I gave my life to Christ I stopped all yoga and threw away all my books on yoga. When I was doing yoga I got exposed to the demonic realm…but when I surrender to Jesus Christ my whole life changed to the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus Christ sets us Free in Him. I am warning you…do not do yoga it will open doors to hell in your life.
Amen!!!
HalleluYah!!!
Praise Lord Jesus for your and our salvation and deliverance!
There is Yoga as an Eastern religion and then ther are Yoga exercises which by the way I did in my high school class gym class over 50 years ago and still do. It had nothing to do with religion for me.
@@bluewaters3100 I thought I could draw a line like that too. But since I repented and gave up “secular” yoga my sleep has been much more peaceful. I suspect it’s a lot more complicated than westerners have been led to believe.
Every single Christian I know that has turned yoga into a regular practice as a means to find more peace in their day to day lives and feel better physically, has become more anxious, less peaceful in their interactions and have experienced darker trials to which they have not been able to as of yet overcome.
Would we allow a satanist to come to church just to get a snack at time of Holy Communion? Absolutely not it would be blasphemous. They believe Westerners are doing the same when practicing yoga, as it is designed as partnership with the gods.
When someone gets upset and offended when their practicing of yoga is under scrutiny, the offended party must ask themselves just what are they fighting for? Is it Truth and God's will? Or is it pride and a clinging to that which we love more than our pursuit of Truth and sanctity in God's Kingdom. We need to always examine ourselves and our motives because we can convince ourselves of the deepest lies if we aren't careful, whether we intend to or not.
Thank you! " Christians" are still thinking it's OK to just do the exercises. It's a Religion! Very hard to find a Church that doesn't go along with this.
As a missionary in West Africa we HAVE encountered demonic possession/oppression. Not many times because our work does not bring us into the encounters much. BUT my husband encountered possession of an American volunteer we worked with. We both encountered a man who is a believer who almost made a bad spiritual decision, who was attacked by an evil spirit and it took time for our prayers to be answered with his release. People in North America tend to brush this off. It has not stopped. It takes different forms in different cultures. Watch for it to be more obvious in N America as our nations give more authority to the enemies of God.
Thanks for the warning.
Sad to say but you are right. I see it in certain places living in California
...less skeptical everyday
We have been missionaries in South America for 40 years. 24 of those years were spent in the deep Amazon in the jungles of Venezuela among indigenous peoples. We have witnessed many instances where The occult is not hidden. God is always faithful. In N America, many Christian’s are blissfully unaware of the unseen realm.
It started with the book “The secret” telling people that they could manifest what they wish. Slowly, our world moved more towards “vibes”, yoga, new age spirituality practices, tarot cards, astrology etc. Let us help each other towards Jesus.
Exactly this, Oprah brought a lot of attention to it and I have so many friends who fell into it!
@@NCWildHeART same! Today’s society continues to push this nonsense on the younger generation. We need to protect our children.
Yes! Your comment is so on point.
Read Colossians monthly!!! JESUS... Central!! Read in several translations!! Glad this is brought to light!!!
I like yoga, I only use it for exercise, when they om at the end I just say Yahweh … I don’t use it as a religious practice and I believe there are a lot of people like me. How do others feel about this?
Excellent episode, I loved having two of my most listened to podcast come together. I am a year out of the New Age and occultism, saved by God, praise be to Him and I found the Cultish podcast a few weeks after I was saved. It was a great help to me, because just like Jeremiah said, people coming out of that world can feel very isolated and weird, even amongst the most well meaning Christians, who just don’t get our testimony. It’s really a great comfort to listen to their episodes and relate to the different stories people tell, and to be reminded of what the Lord saved me out of.
Praise God! He saved me too out of the evil muck that is the new age. 4 years with The LORD by His grace. Stay in The Word, Sister! 💗 And welcome Home.
My daughters, both committed Christ followers, went to high school with a girl who left our Bible believing church and now is into witchcraft and who champions abortion. Halloween is a huge celebration for her. It’s so sad, she’s so young, 27, and so against Christianity though my daughters have been kind and even provided childcare for her for months. So happy for you that you’re out of this! 🙏🏼
Same here 💕 All glory to God! I was exposed to witchcraft and occult at a young age on my moms side of the family. I was introduced to tarot cards, Ouija board, voodoo dolls. In elementary school, I messed with the ouija board, my mom being the one to introduce it to me. I was going through abuse by my dad so the things at my moms house didn’t seem so scary even tho they were terrifying. After having my son, I began processing my childhood trauma and turned back to the occult in hopes to find control and that false comfort I had in it during my abuse as a child. Got too involved with witchcraft but thankfully God helped me find my way out like you 💕
Praise the Lord! He is to be praised! You are a testimony to God’s marvelous mercy and kindness! Thank you for sharing and keep learning and growing in Him and His Word! 🙏
Glory to God our father, our dear sister in Christ!
This was a profound podcast for me… the past few days I have been questioning everything that was a former reality to me and have really on the fence about letting go of all my New Age stuff. I even wanted to do a podcast on all things New Age! However, after listening to this podcast, I truly feel that I am ready to let that stuff go! It all clicked for me here. Ultimately, I don’t need any of that stuff - all I need is Christ and now I actually feel so much lighter in spirit! Thank you so much!
Wonderful news!😊
Good for you dear
Praying your journey continues to grow with Jesus.
I definitely don't agree with the sentiment that Satan is already bound, and that we are living in the fulfillment of the Kingdom. Scripture tells us that the devil himself, as a roaring lion, prowls around, seeking whom he may devour. What we are seeing looks nothing as what the Kingdom was prophesied to be, during the time that Satan will be bound. As the late Chuck Missler used to say, "If Satan is already bound, his leash is too long."
Fact.
I picked up on that too. I think he meant that Jesus has already won, at Calvary.
@@micheletisdale7467 No, he means that Satan is bound. Apologia is postmillennial.
Exactly. Post trib people have to do a lot of stretching Scripture out of its meaning to arrive at their conclusions.
@@wandertree you mean amillennial. "Post trib" doesn't stretch scripture.
'I will set no wicked thing before my eyes.' (Psalm 101:3)
Thank you for this. I’ve read this before but it was a great reminder.
I am thinking that Stranger Things and other magic/witchcraft like shows, which describe so much of Hollywood and entertainment, would be a hard NO. I am surprised at your answers. They seem to lure people into the magic and that world. And the thought of such strong and prominent Christians saying that it’s ok could be a stumbling block for the weaker. I am afraid the church is underestimating the influence of these shows. Not to take away from our Sovereign Lord but a discerning is much needed.
I am not throwing stones, just really surprised. We should lead by example. My first example is to my children. Then to my church family and it extends out to anybody I have an influence on, saved or lost.
I am convinced that the things I watch and the entertainment in general that I enjoy needs to be pure.
Again, not throwing stones, just surprised.
Amen! Avoid even the appearance of evil. We should not allow anything forbidden by God in his Word to be in our eyes or ears. Also, so as to glorify Him and not cause others to stumble.
Amen, I so agree with you.
They said people have to make the decision for themselves wether to partake in that or not. Personal responsibility on that one of one feels convicted.
@@cappylover192 I know. I was just surprised and then I stated why. And that’s where the no stone throwing came in. My intent was not to judge, just advocate for discernment. The day I realized I didn’t want my daughter to leave a room because of what was on tv was a day I decided to be more aware of entertainment choices. That was 15 years ago. Things changed for me once I started viewing my choices in that manner. And now I am thankful.
Psalm 101:3-i will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.
As a older adult in my 60’s I’m encouraged by and grateful to God for the younger generation like you Allie Beth! Press onward in this high calling in Christ Jesus!
As a former practitioner of Wicca/New Age, I highly recommend also Ray Yungen's book, 'A Time of Departing,' which looks at how pagan and mystical practises have been employed by the church. It was very insightful for me, helping me understand terms and what people mean. I truly hope it helps equip those who are coming out of the occult, and those seeking to witness to others currently in it.
For those seeking Biblical church homes, I hope the book provides you with understanding about what has happened in many churches and what to be mindful of and stay away from.
God Bless
A final straw in leaving our former church was when ladies thought that drawing an elaborate “prayer” labyrinth on the back outside patio was a good idea for a family worship night. My husband (who was a deacon there)and I came in and washed it off immediately when we encountered it the next day (we didn’t attend because I already had misgivings) When I confronted the preacher he said he wasn’t aware and wasn’t there. People were offended when I told my concerns about using pagan ways to worship the one true and living God and Savior. They said things like , “But we were praying to Jesus while we were doing it.” And “No one there was practicing paganism”. What a mess. We belong to a solid 1689 LBCF church family now, the only reformed church in town and feel a safety within that confessional unity. Here anything like that would be held immediately up to the scrutiny of scripture and would be squelched.
Excellent service by AllieBeth. You are a blessing to the the body of Christ.
I have no stake in yoga, but I noticed some discrepancies in Jeremiah & Andrew's line of reasoning with it. They state that you shouldn't do it even if you are not practicing the spiritual aspect of it because it's innately spiritual, and even say "should we redeem child sacrifice in Jesus' name?" Not even remotely in the same category as physical exercise. But then when it comes to what TV or movies to watch they say "it's up to your own conscience." Also, the complete dismissal of the argument of meat sacrificed to idols because "yoga isn't meat" was frustrating.
I also have to point out that many of the leaders of Apologia come from a background in martial arts, and they posted a video on UA-cam about how beneficial martial arts can be if you separate the spiritual practices from it.
I hope my thoughts weren't too scattered here. 😆
This was very well put and I agree. I noticed these same inconsistencies in this part of the conversation, and am glad to find someone else who thought the same. Thank you for sharing!
These aren't just physical exercises, you have to use your mind when doing these things. Just another perspective.
Michelle Hand thank you for your thoughts/comments as I am in agreement with you. I found it myself like it was then swishy washy when it came to Stranger things when i found i believe there is a lot of demonic stuff to it. I did watch the 3 seasons and then was feeling convicted about it by the forth.... we are not to set any evil thing before us ...anyhow those are my thoughts lol..again thank you
You are absolutely right, this is confusing for anyone watching. These folks are very young and sad to say very naive in how this heavy material was presented. The martial arts are rife with demonic stuff like yoga and are to be avoided. Lots of opportunities to speak up on MK Ultra, SRA and recovering Christians, like Cathy O'Brien, and Fiona Barnett; as well as basics like not watching GoT, Disney Plus garbage, Multiverse, and SThings!
@@Jason-cn5vo I would hope you would use your mind. I use my mind everyday.
The convergence is so cool! My wife watches Relatable and I watch Cultish!
Awesome!
The Cultish guys! Woooo hooooo 🎉🎉
Hey Melissa!!
Thank You, Melissa! Appreciate you and Doreen Virtue! 💫💥
They are the best!!
I have to say, when he said "it's not about self help, it's about dieing to the self" that clicked. I've been trying to explain to my husband that the idea of needing to love yourself first before you can love others is false. I'll try to remember this one when the topic comes up again between him and I, I've been doing my best to teach him about the God of the bible.
Same! My husband is constantly telling me that he has to be true to himself and I am reminding him that the Bible calls him to die to self and be true to God. He is seeing a secular counselor that is putting all this junk in his mind.
Thank you Allie, Andrew and Jeremiah!!!! Amen to everything y’all closed with! Blessings and prayers for you all!
Soon, so very Soon, we are going to see the King. Jesus is coming soon!!!
Right! My hope is in the Rapture but my Faith is in Christ!
Nah, another 10k yrs. postmill. World will be saved.
@@hookshot2351 me looking for that #datpostmil
@@KM-zn3lx my hope is in Christ conquering the nations and building his kingdom. #datpostmil
@@hookshot2351 Yikes, are you going to be surprised, lol.
Man, I love Jeremiah and Andrew. Cool dudes. Cultish has to be one of my favorite podcasts
I honestly didn't know much about yoga, but I am definitely appreciating this conversation. I will look into their podcast on this. Thanks!
Speaking of people overreacting about symbols, I bought anointing oil sold by messianic Jews for my mother, and one of my coworkers (pastor's kid) was freaking out because it had a star of David as one of the symbols on the packaging. She went on and on about how I should stay away from such things. I pointed out that she openly talks about how she lives and sleeps with her boyfriend all the time and that she's straining a gnat while swallowing a camel. She was focusing on such small details and proudly talking about how she's breaking one of the ten commandments. When you mentioned that overfocusing on symbols can take people's eyes off Christ it reminded me of that.
I almost felt for the new age crap, I was doing yoga and trying to get into meditation, I was feeling lost and confused and I got into a hypnotherapy course with the idea of healing my childhood traumas and helping othe people as well, the course name is "You are enough", but at the same time the circumstances in my life lead me to God and I realize the program was deceptive, specifically right after the author Marissa Peers released her new book "tell yourself a better lie" I thought as a Christian I'm called to live in the truth, not to create a fake reality to make me feel good, so I quit.
And interestingly enough Allies book is titled “You’re NOT enough and that’s Okay”
God bless you ❤️
The longer we walk with the Lord the more narrow the road becomes.
There isn’t anything wrong with yoga or meditation. As long as they aren’t taking place of spending time with god or replacing it. Yoga is just stretching and strength training, If you view it as that you’re fine.
If we were enough, none of us would need Jesus the Christ
Great to see the guys from Apologia Studios in your channel.
Talk with Brother John Ramirez and Sister Jenny Weaver. That’s who helped me realize the truth and real power of the kingdom of darkness. Do not be ignorant to the enemies devices he will deceive who he will. Prayers of discernment and wisdom for us all. 🙏🏼
With Yoga, I think the best way to sum it up was when Andrew said, "These are the poses of the Idol." That, for me really simplified the whole thing. Doing the poses or signs of an idol that is not God worship. It may be unintentional but as we know, this is a tactic that has been used throughout the ages. Isn't this exactly why discernment is so necessary?
I have seen so much demonic symbolism and normalization of it in tv shows. Netflix is huge with this but it goes way back. I remember watching "Charmed" It is so difficult not to be exposed to this type of stuff.
Why does this matter?
There is logic
I was agreeing with that logic until their next topic was justifying Stranger Things. Which makes it sure look like they’re applying scripture however it fits their opinion.
@@GardenerGreeny I am sorry but this is starting to feel cultish to me and not at all about love and acceptance.
You cannot talk about or bring awareness to these topics enough. Please keep at it. ✨🙏🏼
In the scripture when it says that idols are not gods and have no power… it means the idol is powerless in itself but there is a demon spirit behind the idol.
For example, tarot cards have no power in themselves but when a human puts faith in them they activate the demon behind it which allows it in to a persons life.
I had to separate myself from my only sister because she’s constantly watching Stranger Things, Harry Potter, and witch films. I have a 18 month old and I could not have him be influenced by her practices. It hurts being away from her but I’ve tried talking to her and she won’t change. I just keep her in my prayers and hope she will come around.
It took me 28 years to leave New Age practices and I finally did! God Bless your family and prayers for you it is possible!
@@NCWildHeART thank you for your encouraging words!❤️ I hope she comes around before it’s too late.
All she’s doing is consuming the content? Why does what she watches in her personal time matter? Does someone watching violent action films or horror films cause the same response?
@@MissRegionRat Yes that is a problem. Especially when it’s in front of my 18 month old.
@@Romans6_23 your original comment did not say she was watching anything in front of your child. Which is it?
“I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.”
Psalm 101:3
Thanks for what you’re doing. I practiced green witchcraft and what is now called Asatru for 20 years. The Prodigal son returning, I came to Christ and He crushed my past. I live only for Him now.
❤❤❤
Wow. So I was raised in the new age and this is so helpful. I have struggled with being a bit extreme, because of the extreme demonic oppression that I experienced. I was exposed to a LOT of demonic stuff from a very small child. I did some research on fraternities, sororities, masons and eastern stars and feel that those organizations are utterly ungodly. Is that an example of reading too much into it? I really wish I could talk to somebody who understands. There is so much more to my story. Help.
No. It’s not reading too much into it. Well, at least you’re not alone. Check out Dayz Of Noah’s Playlist Secret Societies and Fraternal Orders.
Fraternity’s and Sororities are definitely occult and worship specific gods and goddesses. You’re not reading too much into it. God bless. I hope you have a church body you are connected to and can talk to in person about all this stuff.
You're right. Its rampant in Hollywood & political world. Look up Atilyan Childs expose video on this unless its been taken down. Also Olive Tree Ministries-Jan Markell, Brandon Holthaus, Jack Hibbs, Dr J Vernon McGee, Robert Clancy Ministries, John Eckhardt prayers online. God bless you
Please be aware of the demonic state of our world…🙏🙏🙏
Stay in prayer. This simplistic attitude towards evil is frightening 🙏 God Is great !! 🙏
I love Apologia! Thank you for having Jeremiah and Andrew on your show!
Amazing dialogue in this episode Alley! I’m an All Access member of Apologia Studios, so it was a treat to listen to you and the hosts of Cultish interact with each other.
I've learned a lot with this content. Loved the guests and the topics. Thanks Allie ❤
Great to see our Cultish guys on your channel! Blessings all!
pity they can't inform people objectively
Satan poses as an angel of light, and his minions also pose as agents of righteousness: we need wisdom and discernment
“Be aware (of the spiritual realm), but not impressed by the powers and principalities of darkness…” Dean Sherman has an excellent study on Spiritual Warfare. As with anything, we are to Acts 17:11 all things, all teachers, and hold all things up to the Word of God. Teachers are men too, and they are not to be esteemed above Christ.
Dean Sherman does a great job explaining that we have parts of the Body that never discuss our adversary or the powers and principalities of darkness and then the pendulum swings to the other side, where individuals blame everything on the devil (devil made me do it - when in reality, we have a sin nature and flesh that must be examined). Keeping all these things in mind, we are to be “standing firm and sober-minded…” We have a very real enemy, but an awesome, powerful King of Kings to which we are to worship, adore, and imitate.
Great episode! I am thankful for their examination of Scripture.
hello my name is Liberty thank you so much for this video. I was not brought up with God my parents where atheists, still are. I found life so hard to navigate. I started seeking truth as I’ve approached adulthood. I fell in to the new age through yoga, meditation then RIEKE I was in such a bad place I fell right in to Satan’s trap. I loved the idea I could heal myself when at the time I didn’t know Lord Jesus. I started to feel what I was doing was very wrong. I ended up very ill in hospital having a episode of psychosis. I’ve recently excepted Jesus Christ as my lord and saviour. I’m now focused on studying and learning the word of god. I felt deep shame watching this video wondering how I didn’t see it for what it was before. I am so grateful to know the lord now. Videos like theses are amazing as so many young adults and teens are being deceived this helps bring truth to light thank you.
The timing of this is perfect
Yeah this dipping into yoga and still be Christians reminds me a lot of 1 & 2 Kings where it tells of the people who didn't wholeheartedly serve the Lord. But instead included the ball and ashtoreths. It's very sad what we are depriving our souls from in not loving the Lord with all our heart, soul, mind and strength.
very well put. EXACTLY.
Real investigations into why a 5 tier justice system in America exists are needed. May real JUSTICE PREVAIL in Christ's name.
Stranger things is not God glorifying.
In fact, it mocks God.
Most TV shows, dramas, plays, stories, cartoons are not designed to glorify "God".
@@GardenerGreeny Many have morals to the story based in biblical ideals. Granted, that has gotten rarer as time has progressed. It is permissible to enjoy something secular with a good moral. Stranger Things lacks good morals, showing weed smoking, demonic imagery, murder and the like.
@@mengoinggodsway9024 So basically most TV
@@mengoinggodsway9024 You definitely wouldn't like Rick and Morty .
Not sure if this was on purpose but I had a little chuckle at the fact that this was the discussion for ep 666.
Great episode!
I think it's intentional, love it!
it was 100% on purpose
I’m glad i found this comment. I was trying not to laugh.
@@dianaskene918 it’s one of those things that I hope it was. What a better topic to discuss for this episode number than this lol
I’m a little confused here…you guys are so black and white on all of these other practices (ie: yoga); yet, when it comes to a show you like (“Stranger Things”), we get ten minutes of mental gymnastics to justify your guilty pleasure. Come on kids!
@@krystlerenee1248 agreed. Philippians 4:8, paraphrasing, fill your mind with good things. I don't give space in my mind or my heart to garbage. Hollywood is a Satan dominated industry. Even so-called Christian shows , let alone the spooky occult garbage that our kids so love. When I quit watching The Walking dead, game of thrones, Sopranos Etc, my heart and my mind were calmer, and I had more room for things of God. I deeply regret letting that garbage in to begin with.
Exactly
@@krystlerenee1248 yes!! You've made amazing points!! Another thing I like to say that goes along with this subject is that God doesn't have different rules for different people
I was also concerned when I heard that. It's not some story about Christians fighting demons in fantasy (and even then, it's questionable if executed poorly), it is a story that mocks Christianity and glorifies profanity, drug use, sexuality, magic, and other evils.
My thoughts exactly!! I was coming here to post that. You can justify Stranger Things but yoga is completely wrong !?!?
This was such a good episode! I dabbled in the new age and yoga for a few years. When a lot of people in my church started subscribing to the enneagram and the philosophies surrounding it I had major red flags.
Allie, there is a good sermon from Derek Prince from when he was alive about witchcraft and manipulation. I’m sure if you searched for it on UA-cam you’d find it. Very eye opening and helped me make the connection between new age practices and witchcraft and also a new insight on manipulation itself.
She is probably against people like Derek Prince, who is probably the best on the spiritual realm because Derek also operated in the gifts of the Spirit.
@@robertson-winningallthetim7241 I’m not cessationist but I listen to cessationists from time to time. They still have good insight on other matters.
Very good! Derek Prince was a former yogi and definitely confirmed yoga was NOT just exercise, but extremely dangerous.
Derek Prince is the one who got me to throw away (burn) all my new age material. Ironically, much of it was Doreen Virtue material. I was so happy to find out she came out of the occult too.
Thank you for this episode Allie! This is info we can use.
I have Dr. Martin's book and his daughter Jill Martin Rische does programs periodically with Jan Markell of Understanding the Times. She is also a great resource. GOD BLESS ALL!
Thank you for this episode, good information
This is an awesome interview. Allie always asks the best questions
I watched all seasons of Stanger things, but the current season was definitely darker. The creators for sure tapped into some 'extra' darkness this time. I even had a sleep paralysis episode, which if anyone knows is terrifying. So I decided not to finish the season and will never watch it again
I use to have sleep paralysis all the time before I was a Christian and I do believe those are demonic. Terrifying.
This was impactful. There is a lot of food for thought here. I need to get my beliefs lined out.
As Dr Chuck Missler used to say: If Satan is bound right now, his leash is way too long.
@royal priest Obviously I agree with Dr Missler’s point of view, I’m wondering how you can believe that in this world, not only is Satan already “bound” - for 1000 years, and thrown into the bottomless pit - but the pit is also shut and *sealed* over him “so that he might not *deceive* the nations any longer” (until the thousand years were ended.) Do you mind telling me how you got to that interpretation of Rev 20:2-3? What are your eschatological beliefs in general; do you believe in the Rapture of the Church, what do you believe about the book of Revelation itself and the Millennium or Millennial Kingdom and/or the Millennium temple, written about in other books besides Revelation, like in Ezekiel?
PS: If you believe we’re in the Millennium/Millennial Kingdom now, what would be the reason to let Satan out of the bottomless pit after the thousand years is over? (Rev 20:7-10)
(I’m trying to understand, to hear your views, not have an argument..😊)
Prayerfully more Christians do learn their rightful authority over the devil, and his seed, and also more patriots sincerely turn to Christ.
Luke 10:19
“Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.”
Romans 10:9
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
I've met a surprising number of Christians who only became believers after they were convinced that there truly is evil in the world.
@@scillyautomatic Well, the spiritual world is very real. Ephesians 6:12
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
Thank you for this. I'm sure my husband would say i'm on the side of "too concerned " and maybe he's right, but my concern is more for my children and protecting them evil tries to get them when they're young, so i will pray pray pray for my babies every day!
Super important and relevant podcast. Well Done ABS
I know sponsorship is important but I am trying to get people that practice new age, yoga etc… to listen commercials make it an easy way to tap out…this podcast is AMAZING for people in Christ that were in the occult…will listen through commercials…♥️SO GOOD!!
This is absolutely awesome! It is so informative and full of encouragement! I am definitely going to share it, thanks for this content!
Derek Prince sermons and books!!
Great to see the guys on your podcast....as they too have a great podcast & church here in Az
Awesome interview! ❤ Cultish and Allie!
New age is really just old age mysticism.
No it's not. It's almost entirely modern invention with a few ancient symbols or a bit of scientific jargon tacked on to make it seem legitimate.
The people behind it are generally schizophrenic or bipolar or have some other kind of delusional psychosis that they preach to other people who don't understand that they're dealing with someone who is mentally ill. If you've never met someone who is bipolar and in the grip of a manic episode it's easy to get swept up in their energy, conviction and grand vision for the future.
The ancient symbols or semi-obscure scientific theories are attached to make their modern delusions seem rooted in something legitimate, because they both suggest a deep background of expert knowledge is necessary to understand the claims being made, which leads many people to accept the authority of the speaker rather than investigate further themselves.
The same methods are used across many different fields. It's used very clumsily in new age and alternative theories but once you recognise it you'll see that it's everywhere.
@@stevem815 All of it is illegitimate, old age mysticism and new age mysticism, because both contradict the word of God.
@@jamestrotter3162 lol. I'm pretty sure you have no idea what you're talking about.
@@stevem815 The word of God takes authority over everything else. I'm very sure that I know exactly what I'm talking about and that you're wrong.
@@jamestrotter3162 what am i wrong about?
When they talk about deliverance, it sounds like they expect deliverance to stay nice and tidy and not upset people.
That's not how that will often go.
Warfare and spiritual deliverance is going to be more unpredictable than a tidy philosophical discussion
Love Cultish! Love Relatable! 🙌🙌
Love Cultish! Now I can match faces with voices!
Thanks so much for this episode! I have been perplexed and convicted about deliverance ministry a church I had started attending and watching online has started. It doesn't seem Biblical to me. I had never heard of such. And, would love to know your guests thoughts. I've watched Doreen Virtue cover this topic. As a Christian, that believes in the salvation only through Jesus Christ and sanctification, I don't know understand why as Believers you need deliverance. I appreciated the guests comments on freewill rather than demon oppression. I hope that made sense. Appreciate any comments others may have on this type of ministry. Just recently after prayer, other godly counsel with other Christian friends made the decision to cut off all social platforms from that church.
Seek God on this. The real question is "Do I need deliverance from anything, Lord?" and giving Jesus your submission regarding His decision on the subject. It could be as little as a coffee addiction, or an obsession with pretty pink shoes, or as big as a phobia or alcohol addiction. Whatever He shows you, trust Him and be not afraid. 🐛🌷
Great discussion! You changed my friend’s mind about a few things.
Could you please publish a short where Jeremiah is talking about yoga? I'd love to share it, thanks!
Allie had a guest on who spoke about that. Wish I could remember his name. He was a young guy that came out of the new age. There was a part 1 and 2.
Great episode! Thank you!
Very informative. Love this!
I was very blessed by this episode
I believe we should use greater discernment than suggesting that it's fine for a Christian to be watching Stranger Things. Those comments made me lose a little respect for these guys. Stranger Things is basically horror genre and watching such things causes trauma to the human mind. Do you believe that it pleases the Lord for Christians to be watching such darkness made by evil men? The last few generations who have grown up with violent and evil tv and movies are desensitized and we now see this programming as "normal." If you ever take a fast from these things for a few months, you will be shocked at what you have been watching and have allowed your children to be exposed to. Trauma and fear are used for mind control. There is a reason certain types of shows and movies are being created and promoted. It's not to bring glory to God or to edify His people.
EXCELLENT WELL PUT. EXACTLY.
Maybe through the thousand of years people have made these stretches into this spiritual aspect!! I was practically bedridden with joint pain and sciatica 25 years ago, tried all the medical avenues including pharmaceuticals and I kept getting worse. I read up on other options and these yoga poses came up. I have been pain free for 24 years now, I’ll be 60 next year and am on no pharmaceuticals at all, no joint pain at all. When I noticed that happening I stopped eating all processed food, so it does go together!! Since I’ve been old enough to know about God I’ve believed and studied faithfully for 45 years, nothing worldly will ever change that. So whatever stretches or yoga if your mindset is toward Our Heavenly Father nothing will change that.
We are supposed to bring our own religious teachings that we have learned from the Bible and our parents of God and the Holy Spirit - we bring those into our yoga practices and when we do, we can actually heal with His power. They were taking about the women of Salem who were wrongfully accused as if they were really witches. This is so wrong.
I've never done or checked out yoga, what stretch(s)specifically helped joint pain. I've have RA and am on a couple kinds of meds, would love to learn some 'stretch(s)- not yoga stuff- to help.
I studied some of the history of yoga and found that originally it was specifically a form of breath work and meditation intended to awaken a "kundalini spirit" in the body, there was no physical exercise involved at all. Several of the stretches known in modern yoga were actually taken from Scandinavian exercise programs in the 1800s during a time when physical exercise was becoming more popular. Yoga (the original form) was waning in popularity at the time, so in an effort to revitalize interest in the young ppl by capitalizing on the popularity of the growing trend towards physical exercise, they incorporated the movements and expanded it as a way of drawing more ppl. But yoga purists of the era looked down on it as a lesser form of yoga because it wasn't as focused on the breathwork+meditation aspects which were the real gateway to spiritual evil. So I think the exercise itself is fine and beneficial, it's the other elements that are harmful.
Signs and symbols rule the world! I don't believe every triangle is bad but I 100 percent believe they communicate via symbols. It's their signature so they can get that power from Satan.
100% true! Esotarically and exoterically.
In reference to watching "Stranger Things", and other dramas that fall into the "horror" genre...... "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes" Psalms 101:3-4. shouldn't we ask "What would Jesus do?"......I don't see Jesus watching "Stranger Things".
Why not? He dealt with the real powers of darkness. He would sit there amd say - that's not quite right. that monster's head is bigger in real life, or that weapon cannot defeat that adversary, because you need the sword. A bit like havong a locksmith in the family saying that the lock cannot be that simple for Holmes to open, or a historical clothing expert pointing out errors in the Pride and prejudice dresses, or even a weapons expert shouting at the TV 'you're out of rounds!' during an action movie.😁
hmmm. then I suspect you don't watch much drama, story telling or theatre. most stories we see dramatized on TV or in the movies have some basis in something "horror" like. or just something a bit questionable.
it's perfectly OK to find some of these things enjoyable to watch. It doesn't mean you're agreeing to the things you're seeing.
we're allowed to have fun.
@@GardenerGreeny Not really interested nor care what you "suspect" and as for the "most stories have some basis in something horror like"....that's just not true. Your comment really has nothing to do with what I posted.
@@susang5445 Dealing with evil is one thing....watching it for entertainment purposes is another.
'Fix your thoughts on what is true, and honorable, and right, and pure.' (Philippians 4:8)
Great show, very informative! I have a question- what did they mean when they said Satan was bound?
We should love the Lord with all our heart and mind. Yoga wants us to clear our mind when we should really be meditating on His word.
We need the simplistic of the Gospel and keep our eyes on Jesus Christ
Allie, have you ever been to India and gone to a Hindu temple? My father preached in very remote areas in india and encountered the demonic.
Appreciate the coversation and embracing your 666th episode 🤣 Around 4:40 and onward there is conversation on "replacing personal identity with the identity of the leader " "cults don't allow you to think critically" and other cult identifiers. How does the cult of personality surrounding figures like Trump (and many others throughout history) fit in to this? Having some family members that got sucked into Q Anon/other conspiracies it's very obviously cultish in nature. What advice do you have when you know they are sucked in, think it's "Christian" but won't listen to reason? Thanks again for he podcast--always interesting subjects.
Tell them it is a controlled opposition ploy straight out of the Bolshevik handbook (Operation Trust). Unfortunately, they will be shifted by politics more than faith. I looked into it but never fully bought in back in 2019-2020.
Yes yes yes to this collab.
It is surprising to see how even when it is believed that having stability or certain economic freedom, people do not stop turning to certain spiritual practices to try to fill their lives, there is still an emptiness inside, something is missing.
That is when you can open the door of your house, your heart and your spirit to the pagan or to the Christian, if the pagan ends up filling your being, in some way you are still exposing yourself to a void and to some kind of danger, because you will resort to mix more pagan things trying to fill some void that they themselves cannot give you.
And if you end up accepting God in your life, we must be careful in our successes and even in our failures, not to let in anything that contaminates our lives and our relationship with God.
At the same time I wonder how many things the antichrist will use to deceive people?
As always, many greetings from Mexico and may the Lord bless you and your families, and at the same time protect you from any deception of the enemy to ruin your relationship with God and your lives.
Let us always turn to him to fill our whole being.
Just to speak to the “seeing the devil everywhere comment”…a Native American friend of mine told me once that she thought a demon was attacking her voice because her ear and jaw hurt so badly. I slowly asked her is she thought she might have an ear infection and told her about a home remedy I’ve used for years and to give it a try (putting hydrogen peroxide in your ear and letting it sit there for a few minutes). I told her, “if it’s infected, it will bubble A LOT!” Next time I saw her she told me her ear bubbled so much and now it was MUCH better! 😅 Not a demon. Just an ear infection!😂
That's why I call all this demon stuff bullshit
Also, It is very difficult to be a person that sees the evil. I do not seek it out. I don't see it in everything like you were saying about those that see it in shadows and colors. However, I see it in different areas in this life. Small things, big things. So many unexpected things. Not everywhere but often in the things that seem so benign.
It is unsettling to me because I feel like so many are not open to hear or see the truth. I've talked to people I'm close to about Tarot and they are utterly resistant to the idea that it can open a door that allows evil to come through. They think of it like "Hellraiser" where smoke fills the room and an actual demon emerges when it is absolutely about the unseen world.
Regarding the discussion of Stranger Things around 40 min in, read Johanna Michaelson's book "The Beautiful Side of Evil". A great bio of her journey after dabbling in Transcendental Meditation, Mediums, etc...
My question on Yoga would be what stretches do I replace them with if the positional stretch actually helps my back - like "cat/cow" tilts hips forward and back to keep my hips from seizing up; "child pose" helps my outer hips lengthen and pelvic floor relax; "up dog" stretches the hip flexors and keeps them from shortening and unbalancing my hips. Those are just a few examples. Do I still use the stretches and not call them what they are? Do I stop doing them? What do I replace them with that is not still those positions? I understand the particular 'god" representative of each position. I want to be obedient to Christ, but I also have greatly benefited physically from them as mentioned above. Would really love guidance here.
My thought is that God created movements that stretch and strengthen our bodies, but these movements were appropriated by another religion.
Doreen Virtue has some really good videos and could probably answer all of your questions. Check her out!
Do the exact same things that help and call it pilates. Go to a physical therapist and they’ll prescribe many of the same moves. Eastern religion or “cults” don’t have a monopoly on the mechanics of the human body.
There is nothing wrong with doing yoga. Don't let these guys scare you
@@GardenerGreeny Whatever God leads them in, via their conscience.
No, Satan is not bound today, but will be in the milinium. We must live holy lives as He is holy, so stay away from stranger things and the like! Our abstinence from such entertainment is a small `price' to pay, we were bought at the highest price!
I had read that there were aspects from the TV show Stranger Things came from a thing called the Montauk Project. I don’t know if it was military or the clowns in America, but there is an old retired military type base in the Montauk, Long Island, New York. There is some book available on Amazon called The Montauk Project: Experiment in Time by Peter Moon, they’re are several different ones. Honestly I don’t know if it’s something written pre Stranger Things or if it’s some new thing like The Hunger Games or Harry Potter. I can still see where people would get caught up this.
Great Episode God Bless u Allie
I love you guys and your ministry! God bless it! Please hear my heart in what I say about the topic of possession and oppression, because even Doreen Virtue who you mentioned will attest to this: people who have lived in an occult like or over spiritual worldview have sometimes experienced demonic things of biblical proportions. It’s especially obvious outside of the very secular western world (which tends to go to the other end of the extreme). Missionaries and believers in Latin America, Africa, and Asia will attest to this as well. I do however agree that the deliverance from such things is very different post Resurrection. Movies certainly have sensationalized the process of simply being saved by His grace.
Even when you go to the doctor, if it's not about a diet and try to convince you you are allergic to wheat or something of that nature or if you are stressed or whatever then they try to convince you either to do yoga or meditate and even these sites that seem innocuous or seem benign that say like rain falling or a crackling fireplace or something to fall asleep to, a lot of times within those, they sneak in things of the occult. Owls which represent moloch. Different shapes of the cross which also are very sneaky but they mean something. We need to be praying for real discernment as deceit is the biggest thing going on. When you mentioned gaining weight with pregnancies I don't know what was wrong with me but with every pregnancy I had three children I gained less weight and got thinner after each child. My last child I only gained what you mentioned which was 16 pounds. He was my smallest baby at 6 lb when he was born. I am 5'9. He was my miracle baby, as some things went wrong when he was born. N o w, my son is in heaven. He died in 2019 at the age of 21. Partly why I even know more about the occults is because this son got involved in it. Praise God though, he did become a born again Christian shortly before he died. It was a dramatic change in his whole demeanor and everything about him.
This was great.. Thanks
When he mentioned that about the esoteric practice of having circles of candles, I had to think of the Red Panda movie that so many are justifying.
Believing in God's Word first, believing in Jesus Christ and what He has done for us on the Cross and looking at self, good advice for us to follow.
I appreciate this channel as well as this episode. I appreciate consulting ally's opinion on many current issues and weighing that in as I navigate life. I appreciate that she feels a need to defend truth and expose that which is not true. And as I watched this episode I feel the need to do the same. Please understand that this comment is in no way meant in anger or disrespect. (I feel a major disadvantage of a written message vs a face to face conversation is not being able to sense the emotion with which something is said.). So with all respect and kindness I feel a need to speak a clarification and share truth. On several occasions comments were made throughout this episode implying that "Mormons" are a cult. I also couldn't miss the poster of the temple in salt lake city. "Mormon" is actually just a nickname given by people outside the church. The correct name to be used is The church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints. I must with all respect strongly disagree with the classification of cult. Yes, we believe that God can continue to speak and give further instructions. So yes, we do believe that in addition to the bible there are further words of God. We believe that we as humans cannot restrain God by dictating when he can speak. Yes, we believe in following our leader. We believe God has a prophet on the earth today, just as there were prophets in scriptural times. God is an unchanging and supreme God, he loves all of his children from all times. Why in the most confusing times of the last days would he leave us on our own without a prophet? But going on with the definition of a cult that was given...we are not forced or threatened into blind obedience. We are always encouraged to seek God personally for his confirmation and testimony of truth. And things are not done in secret or darkness. This is a church of light and truth.
It sounded like much of the opinion offered was based on those who are angry and have left the church. What they have to say can be weighed into one's opinion, that is fine. But one must also realize this is only half the story and will obviously be somewhat biased. Has the other side of the coin been examined? Christ taught us that by their fruits ye shall know them. Have the fruits of those who are angry been examined? Have the fruits of the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints been examined? I can testify the fruit is sweet, for it is the love of God! Every church has those who have left it and oppose it. Every church also has those who profess to be of it, but who are failing to truly live it's precepts. Christianity will always have those who stake claim in it's ranks, but whose fruits are in no way examples of the light of Christ. It would be foolish to judge all Christianity by their example...we cannot condemn all based on their works. And so it is with the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints. Satan will always fight against and try to defame truth. He will try to have the bad example of the few distract from what the truth actually is. Before one defames all latter-day saints as a cult...have they actually examined what the teachings and the fruits are?
Again, I hope this has not been taken in a contentious way! It is not intended that way at all. I do not believe we can speak for God in anger and contention when he denounces such behavior. Satan is the father of all lies and contention. I first saw this episode yesterday, and in not wanting to stir up anger had decided not to say anything. But then in my scripture study this morning I read Ezekiel 33 and felt that God was asking me to open my mouth. I hope this will not stir anger. But I also realize that God has said if people are angry and revile us for the truth, so they did to Him as well.
I must testify that the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints is the same church and gospel as was here with Christ on the earth. It has been restored with His priesthood power. God has a prophet on the earth to guide us through these troubled last days. Listen to what he has to say. They are not the words of a power hungry or deceived individual. Listen to his words and you will hear the words of truth. Ask God what He says about it. In James it says "if any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God who giveth to all men liberally and upbraideth not. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea. Driven with the wind and tossed.". If you will ask God with an open mind (not expecting that you can tell God what answer he should give you) if the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints is a cult...I know He will answer.
When seeking truth both sides must be examined. If you want to know what this church actually teaches, here is the official website. I don't often comment on things to know if actual links are allowed, so I will spell it out:). churchofjesuschrist(dot)org
Thanks again for all the effort you put into speaking up for truth. My comment was shared in kindness and love.
thanks sister!!
I was surprised to hear your guests take such a hard stance on yoga, then give Stranger Things a pass. And they were not just saying to avoid the music and meditation of yoga, but to avoid even doing a yoga pose. But they like Stranger Things and believe it's a good show. This was especially surprising given the discuss the three of you had regarding consistency as Christians. We must be consistent. Otherwise, excellent show. I love that you interviewed Cultish for episode 666. We've been wondering what you would do for that one. Keep up the good work.
I think you misunderstood what they said about Stranger Things. It’s a good show that doesn’t over sexualize teens. I have teens and it’s been a great catalyst for discussion. It doesn’t glorify demonic or occult practices either like Harry Potter. It’s good vs evil. It’s not a christian show but neither is Frozen and yet everyone let their kids get wrapped up in that without any discussion
I agree with you, yoga is not godly it is evil disguised as good and beneficial.
Stranger things is not a good film either, it’s also classed as a horror film!
@28 minutes about depression.
My mother said it's impossible to be depressed if your thankful.
Think about that..
Only evil wants us sad or fearful or several other emotions to depress us.
But being thankful in ALL THINGS means happy in the valley of death or riding high on the mountain.
Romans 8:28.
All things.
So if someone is depressed it's because they fall short giving thanks as believers should.
In all things give thanks and stand on the promises of GOD.
You will find the peace that passes all understanding.
Yall need to interview Fr Ripperger