Just so that you're aware, you're miles off about the 128 gb fitting 'one, maybe two' games. We don't know how large most games will be on the Q3 yet, but the Q2 only has a couple of games that are around 10 gb or more. Yes, there's a crazy large Medal of Honor game, but everything else, and I do mean everything, is tiny by comparison. The smaller Q3 will almost certainly fit an average of 10-15 games on it. Or, likely a few more even. And, if you favor smaller experiences, it'll probably fit 30-50 or more. I can barely count how many games on Q2 are less than 1 gb. For the average person taking a punt on VR who doesn't know that they're much of a gamer or care all that much, the smaller headset should be more than adequate.
Thanks SO much Poemiserable, like I've mentioned several times in the comments below... I'm a noob at this Quest thing so any info is most appreciated. This is my first Stand Alone headset so my only frame of reference is PCVR which games are getting close to 100GB now. Anyway, I still think an extra $150 is totally worth it for 4x the storage, but nice to know that it isn't necessary. I'd really like to see this in as many new peoples hands as possible so if the $499 version is adequate that is good to know. Appreciate the comment.
You're most welcome@@GYGOtv. Great video, by the way. For more context, I'll list a few random super popular games on Q2 with their sizes. SuperHot is less than 2 GB, Population One is 4.8 GB, BONELAB is 6.64 GB, Beat Saber is 1.45 GB, Red Matter 1 and 2 are 1.4 GB and 5.36 GB respectively, After the Fall is 3.39 GB, Walking Dead and Resident Evil 4 are two of the largest games on the entire platform at a little over 6 and 8 GB respectively. Most games are like 1-3 GB. Really, the only outlier I've seen is Medal of Honor, which is crazily 41 GB but there's literally nothing else like that on the entire platform. At 12.6 GB, I think Walking Dead: Chapter 2 might be the second largest game on Quest. Anyway, if these games get patches for Q3, they'll grow a bit, but likely not a lot. It's safe to say that 128 GB will suffice for most light gamers for quite a long time, especially given how terrible the attach rates are.
The new Asgard game will be 21 Gb to be released in December 2023, however I do agree that is not the rule today, probably in a few years that will change but by then we all be looking forward for quest 4
@@NirvaGTThanks for the update, I was shocked to hear games are that small. Makes me worry that the graphics aren't going to even be close to PCVR. I guess I'll know in a couple weeks. So at say 20GB average, that is only 6 games which still isn't a lot IMO. I still recommend the upgrade to 512GB to help future proof a little. Just my 2 cents so far.
People say they don´t like Meta/Facebook headsets, but, they end up buying them because they know Quest 2 was a top quality build product and Quest 3 as it looks will be even better product with those pancake lenses and larger FOV etc. I am one of those people. 😐
I guess I'm one too :) Believe me, if it wasn't for my viewers I would not have bought this no matter how good it was. I have no interest in supporting Meta, but I hope it turns out to be for the greater good of everybody watching. We will see and thanks for the comment.
Mixed virtual reality is 100% the future, just not in a big bulky device on your face. In 50 - 100 years when computers are infinitely smaller that they can be integrated into your prescription glasses, that’s when I see mixed reality to be a thing.
Hi Dragon, ya sorry I wasn't clear... obviously MR is going to be huge in training, maintenance etc. I'm just talking about games... I still think that is going to be more of a fad. Might be wrong, but we will see.
@@mike_33gtYa I'm getting a little concerned at what I can expect from the quality of Quest 3 Stand Alone games... I guess we will see. Thanks for watching.
Until it's lighter and more comfortable, VR will never go mainstream. I haven't found a headset somewhat comfortable since the Rift S and I'm an enthusiast.
Sounds like you need the Big Screen Beyond. We will have to see how comfortable the Quest 3 is, I think with the weight closer to your face it will be more comfortable than most other headsets. We will have to wait and see but thank you for your input.
Where I think mixed reality has a place in sims is what Varjo showed a while back with the XR3 when you have a simpit and you can mark off the area with your panels and controls and see them properly and the rest outside of that area is the virtual world.
Wasn't that a cool deal!!! Yes agreed, but I don't really count simming as "a game" but technically that is a "game" simulation that I think will be cool. I can tell you from my years in DCS, it would be so nice to be able to flip a real switch in the cockpit and actually see your hands while you do it. Thanks for the comment!
I think it doesn’t really matter about liking meta or not, for the best headsets as of now, it’s either meta, a chinese company or fairly expensive only VR headsets
LOL, yes and I seem to buy them all at this point... not the original plan but o'well there are worse things to spend money on. I just really hate Meta and what they are trying to do to the Metaverse and their whole approach to privacy etc. Just a personal thing but you are right, in the big scheme it probably doesn't really matter. Thanks for the comment.
"You're leaving performance on the table to be backwards compatible to support Quest 2" - I really don't understand this comment, it makes no sense to me. Why wouldn't you want to play Quest 2 titles first and foremost and the Quest 3 updates can come later. To me this is a win win. 😄
Hi dtrjones, what I mean is if developers are still going to make the software work on the Quest 2 then they won't be taking full advantage of the power of the new Snapdragon XR2 ver. 2 chip. I'm not talking about not playing previous Quest 2 software, I'm talking about future developed titles. Hope that makes more sense?
I think they've done a lot with the variable resolution and settings that devs should be able to utilise the hardware of the Quest 3, while still making it work on the Quest 2. So, I don't think it will hold devs back too much. On the other hand, just think how angry people would have been if 50+ games came out with no Quest 2 support.
Thanks for the input wesselwessels. I certainly hope you are right and that was just a thought I had watching the announcement. I'm a noob at this whole Quest thing so I'll be learning a lot as I go. Appreciate everyone who helps me on this new journey.
Whether you hate Meta or not, you can't deny how impressive the Quest 2 and soon Quest 3 as a product that bring the true impressive technologies of the future while not costing too much. I'm a huge picky when it comes to techs. Never wanted to buy the new iteration within 3 years until these Quest 2 to Quest 3 but I'm still have thoughts on whether to upgrade or not
Hi toututu, yes the Quest lineup is impressive, I even recommended it as the right headset for the majority of people way back in 2021 ( ua-cam.com/video/l61-oqyZZL8/v-deo.html ) As you probably noticed in this video, I try to be fair and just because I don't like something doesn't mean it isn't right for others. My goal is for people to find the right headset to meet their needs and in most cases the Quest fits that bill. FWIW, I'd highly recommend this upgrade... the difference from Fresnel lenses to Pancake lenses is a game changer IMO. Thanks for the comment.
You know what in the pimax Crystal the eye-tracking actually was better than I estimated it was when you and I spoke before. I'm actually pretty impressed. I can now turn on msaa and still maintain 90 fps. It's pretty nice to get rid of majority of those shimmering Jaggies. I can't wait for my Weider field-of-view lenses to arrive.
Ya, I have so much I still want to test in the Crystal but I need to get Motion Comp working first. That has been an albatross around my neck for far too long now. Thanks as always for your support!
@GYGOtv agreed I finally have it as good as it's going to get untile maybe my new lighthouse faceplate arrives, and I try an alternative that takes advantage of the new faceplate.
O Hell ya I could see it being awesome for modelling! Again I was talking about games. I'd love to hear your thoughts coming from the rift s if you get the chance.
It's important for me that you remain unbias in your reviews despite your views on Meta. Im personally a fan of Zuck and Meta and I appreciate this approach.
I know in this day and age I'm supposed to pick a team and fight to the death to win my argument, but that isn't my style. I'm just tying my best to give people some data to help them make their own decisions and I hope it comes out that way. Thanks for watching!
Great video. If it makes you feel better, I think it's the ongoing revenue from subscriptions and game purchases in their store that really supports them. As well as any data harvesting, but they decoupled facebook login which helped a lot. Getting the headset as a once off to connect to steam isn't going to make a big difference to their bottom line since they probably don't make a lot of money on these units.
Passthrough and mixed reality features are more relevant for the VR "Pron" industry than gaming, and it does make a difference. I wouldn't know personally, but had a friend tell me as much........😉
LOL, I don't know what this says about me... but I thought the same thing too... especially with the AI they are working on and those "avatars", did they also hire some adult actresses for some NSFW avatars they didn't show? We may never know... since as you say, we haven't tried those types of things. :)
Quest 3 would be better for room scale VR than Crystal.? The difference won't be so much for sharpness between Crystal or Q3 ? night and day or just not the difference?
Not sure yet, obviously the Crystal should have better visuals but will have to compare once I get them. One thing I do know is I'll be using my Index Knuckles a lot so I'm guessing the Crystal will be my main driver in roomscale. Obviously I won't be able to compare wireless (and thus image compression) until Pimaxl releases the wireless module for the Crystal, so it might be awhile. Thanks for the question.
I've bought the Quest 3 as an upgrade to the HP Reverb G2, easiest decision I've ever made - infact I bought 2, one for my brother as well. Looks a solid all around headset. I've seen enough opinions on PCVR encrypted video to know you can easily surpass the G2 picture quality if you have a decent system, so my 13900K RTX 4090 should do well in the Quest 3 for PCVR, and I can upgrade to the 14900K RTX 4090 Ti as well if required. 👍
Yep, I think this headset might take the "best value" crown from the G2 in my opinion. I want to test it for sure, but sure looks good on paper. Thanks for the comment.
As for PCVR use, you would think that with the much faster XR2 Gen2 chip, theoretically, it should be able to decode the video coming from the PC a lot faster thus possibly seriously reducing the visual compression. This is the problem with the Quest-2 and Pico 4, especially the Pico 4, it has the same panel resolution as the Reverb G2 but yet looks nowhere as good as the G2, I have both and for sim racing and even flight sims (MSFS), anything in the distance (looking down a race track, the farther you look, the more you can see the compression in the form of loss of detail) whereas it's still very clear in the G2. This is my biggest gripe with stand alone HMDs, what's the point of upping the resolution if the image quality will look like hell due to compression for PCVR. But then again, they don't want you to use PCVR, they want to make money selling stand alone games on their respective stores. The Pico 5 will have higher res, and the top of the line model (Pico 5 Pro Max) will also have Display Port connection, but it's price tag will be over $1k USA. That's a little too pricey for me. Oh yeah, the Pico 5 will have 3 models, Pico 5, Pico 5 Pro and Pico 5 Pro Max, the first two will have the same resolution (roughly similar to the Aero) the Pro Max will be in the 3k x 3k range, can't remember the exact numbers. Each model has different launch dates in 2024.
Great comment Jackr.749! That is certainly something I plan to look at when I actually get one myself! My old Vive Pro has bad compression too in wireless mode so I know what to look for. Hoping you are right and that XR2 can do a good job. I doubt it will be as good as wired but hoping it is acceptable. For me I will continue to use either the Crystal or Aero for my sims but I am curious about how good the wireless will be on the Quest 3. Unfortunately we can't "officially" get a Pico here in the States. Thanks for watching.
@@GYGOtv I'm in Canada, got my Pico 4 from AliExpress, it was a China Version, I converted it to a "Global" version by finding a site that explained how to do it by manually changing the Pico 4 firmware to "Global" LOL Looking forward to seeing your thoughts on the Quest 3, especially for PCVR and if there is any improvement regarding compression. :)
Until Valve gets serious about the Deckard or Sony decides to throw a few hundred million behind PS VR 2 studios, I think the Quest 3 is the best we're going to get. I guess that'll change if/when others step into the arena, but who knows?
Right, and who knows how long Valve will take with Deckard! I think this headset is going to turn some heads so hopefully you will be pleasantly surprised too. Thanks for the comment.
99 times out of 100, people should just buy whatever product is the best for them. Who cares if you don't like the company or the CEO? The best product should always win.
I guess I care... I just don't feel right supporting a company that I fundamentally disagree with. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. And by the way... "the best products" seldom win... go back to the VHS vs. Betamax wars to see what I mean. Thanks for watching and the comment too.
VALVE INDEX... has great FOV (about 40% bigger than Quest 2), 144 Hz, great sound, perfect tracking, no compression artifacts, tons of mods including RX lenses, plano lenses, weight kits, native STEAM and awesome controllers. Pass.
I hear you, the Index was amazing for it's time but it also had bad glare, screen door effect and no wireless option. Most of those other things you mention will come to the Quest 3 in time. We just need to see Deckard, I hope it sets a new standard just like the Index did! Thanks for your comment.
How about if it had cellular connectivity and some face and maybe eye trakcing ? Ps.: i think youre wrong. The mixed reality is the future. And im not talking about games. Im talking about life, conectivity and social interaction even .
Hi stel... I think eye tracking would be a big one but obviously that all adds to the cost. As for the Mixed Reality, I'm talking about for gaming. Obviously I see huge potential for training, service work all that kind of stuff. I just think for gaming, people are going to want to be immersed in a new world, not adding elements to their rooms. The only game scenario that might have some traction would be like playing Demeo or a board game on your actual tabletop. Of course I might be wrong, but that is my gut feeling. Thanks for watching.
Quest 3 512 gb version with the Elite Strap with battery is a must buy for me, add my attachable MYJK earphones or some ear buds and I am all set, I'm debating on whether I should buy the charging dock for the Quest 3, that's another $129, do you think the charging dock is really worth it and necessary for the Quest 3?, I didn't have a charging dock for the Quest 1 and Quest 2, I always just used the charging cable and adapter that came with the headsets before
Hi midnightrocker7, unfortunately I'm a total noob when it comes to Quest as this is my first purchase (I only bought the headset right now). From what I remember from my research on the Quest 2, a Elite Strap with a battery (or aftermarket equivalent) was a necessity for roomscale so good call there. I wasn't planning the charging dock because I don't think it charges the controllers so I can just as easily plug the headset into a USB-C as set it on a dock. Let me get my hands on this thing and I might be able to give a better answer, but for now those are my thoughts. Thanks for watching.
I did pre order it already but i have been thinking about canceling it. I feel the same about Meta. But i inversion a few uses for AR/MR. help with home repair/maintenance cars/trucks ect... look at something and pull down a schematic. or a how too. I do own a oculus rift. i did not like being forced into a meta account. I bought all my VR software from steam. But i am looking forward to playing table top simulator with the wife in MR would be fun. at a 50/50 now if i should cancel it. I did get the 512 version in hopes that someone will make a OS for it:)
I so agree with so much of what you are saying! If you are coming from the rift, this will be a HUGE step up so I'd recommend keeping it to at least try it out. It is hard to explain how much better non-Fresnel lenses are (at least to me). As for the AR/MR... I'd be excited to play Demeo on my actual Table but not much else really interest me. Plus I guess the battery life is going to suck when you use the cameras (like less than 2 hours). I guess we will all see when it gets shipped. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@GYGOtv I hate to ask but Meta support is giving me the run around telling me to watch for new FAQ's, they don't know. does the USB C link cord need to be plugged into the video card? or any usb c will work? i have a 60watt USB C on the front of my case. (I don't have USB c on video output) I seen the usb 3.0 adaptor so I guessed i did not need that output on my video.
@@st0mper121No problem, I really don't know. I'd guess you would need a video out USB-C for PCVR if that is what you are talking about. Are there any videos out there re: this with a Quest 2? I'd imagine it would be the same as the Quest 3. Now you have me interested to know the answer as well.
@@st0mper121Hey st0mper121, I've been looking into this for you. It looks like you do not need to have video out on the connector, in fact you can use a high bandwidth USB-A to C even. Apparently the video signal is encoded and set to the headset as data where it is decoded to make the image. People do recommend a good cable for a quicker data transfer, and many recommend the Kiwi cable as it is light, good quality and fast data transfer ( amzn.to/3LI1Cw8 ) Almost everyone says don't buy the overpriced Meta cable. One other note since you mentioned the USB-C on the front of your computer... that seems to do better at keeping the headset charged (better power delivery than a USB-A), so you might see if you can find a good USB-C to USB-C if you want that perk. I hope that helps and good luck.
I'm curious if you will use the Quest 3 in DCS? Id like to upgrade from my G2 but i dont have the room set up to do base stations and the Pimax Crystal is really my only option. From what I'm reading about the after sales support and QC of the Crystal, even on their discord, it is really discouraging for the price.
Hi salimelayan, I doubt I'll use the Quest 3 because at 25ppd it will be less sharp than the Aero or Crystal. I'll likely give it a try but I can't imagine the experience will be as good as those other ones. PLUS the Dynamic Foveated rendering really improves performance and without eye tracking, the Quest 3 won't be able to do that. Now if it is a good replacement for the G2 is another question and I'll try to give my opinion on how it compares once I use it a little. Stay tuned and thanks for the question.
@@sze5003No problem... my gut feeling is the Quest 3 will be a good upgrade from the G2 (which has held the crown of best value headset for me since it came out), but I won't know for sure until I get to use it. Appreciate you watching our content, and thanks again for the question.
Best thing you can do is buy quest3( in your case i would probably upgrade that Logitech wheel 1st:)) and only use it for pcvr then they probably only lose money on the sale but you are probably wrong on the 512gb version its just not worth it most people play only a few games at a time and they are much smaller size its a mobile platform. You are right not sure why these companies keep pushing MR its just a gimmick that budget should have went into eye tracking would provide foveated rendering and extra in game features using it in games like on psvr2.
Can we please NOT have the Logitech wheel discussion again :) I've had other people tell me about the capacity thing too and that makes me worry a little about the quality of these stand alone experiences... good thing I'll have one soon enough so I can see for myselt. Appreciate the info, as I said, I've never owned a Quest before so I'm still learning all this as we go. Thanks for the info.
Future games maybe 20gb or more. Asgards wrath 2 is 25gb ( installed with pre orders). Updates need space as well. 3 games a few updates and patches your done
@@busterbrown1686 yes it can be an issue for heavier users(i still have 64Gb Q2) but if you do move to that $650 it makes it unappealing they did this on purpose to upsell and considering how cheap flash is these days it should have started at 256gb.
So Mixed reality is going to be good. But you are thinking about the wrong usecase. Even with the Quest Pro now You can Use Virtual desktop and the Oculus Browser in Multitasking to create a Two monitor Setup Being able to put a Big screen on your wall to Pancake game on with having a moveable interactable screen beside you is great. Meta seem like they are going to expand that. But Forget VD. You can Sideload a Browser like Brave, Then sideload GeForce Now and Game pass, Sideload Discord and with modest to good internet (40Mbps+) you basically have a 3 monitor Setup. Immursed Lets you do that using your PC power. With Spacial anchors coming to Q3 for Home environment Being able to customise your actual environment will be cool. MR Will have cool games and experiences. But what MR will ultimately let you do is replace Devices you already use for Virtual ones with added benefit of Freedom
Hi LionheartTM, yes I guess I wasn't clear... I mean MR Gaming, obviously the other use cases like you mention are going to be a thing. I just think MR games are going to be more of a fad. I might be wrong, but time will tell. Thanks for calling me out so I could clarify it, and thanks for the view.
@@GYGOtv The games them selves. There is potential for great experiences. Nintendo Style games would work very well in MR. But also Imersive games can be improved by MR. Ill give an example. Imagine WDS&S But instead of the camp being the bus. The camp is your Room. You could put Weapon racks on your walls and bring trophies back and decorate your room. Not only would it make the game more personal but naturally giving you a passthrough break as part of the game would be good. Lets go from a different hypothetical angle. Imagine if Pancake games could add AR features. Say BG3 during events where you talk to people appeared in your room and actually talked to you. Or other games let you pull out UI elements in to the AR space. Like character sheets, Maps. Things like player housing in games. The Housing is your own home and items you collected in game can be used to decorate your house. turn your desk in to a crafting station etc. That is Very possible it just needs an environment app running on the Quest with a video streamer. A universal app could be made or Studios could make per game apps. OFC this would take Pancake studios taking interest to do such a thing But its 100% possible. Hell its something Modders could do.
@@LionheartTMI hear you, but I those scenarios just don't interest me. I'd rather be in a virtual world not stuck in my house, and coming back to my room from say BG3 would just be immersion breaking. Again, I hear what you are saying and I might be in the minority but for me bringing back trophies and "decorating" my house doesn't do much because guess what... nobody else is going to see it unless they have MR going too. Again, this might be exciting at first but I think the novelty will wear off very quickly. Just my opinion but I guess we will see. Anyway, thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed comment. I do appreciate your point of view.
Did this guy say the 128 will hold "MAYBE" a game?? My 128 quest 2 has like 20 games and only like 2 or 3 are over 10gb. 128 should be more than enough
Yep this guy did say that... but this guy also doesn't have any experience with Quest Standalone so my only frame of reference is PCVR and those titles are easily 100GB nowdays. Again, I'm still learning so I appreciate everyone's feedback on this new "Quest" I'm on (see what I did there). The good news is once I get mine, I'll have a better idea of the storage. Thanks for your input.
Quest 3 not only is standalone (no wires) it is also AR and VR both Worlds together. PSVR 2 is VR only, no PC compatibility, you need to have a PS5 too. I would say Quest 3 is better as it has the full package os games, apps, compatibility and support.
@@omar-9617 PSVR 2 has 2,000 x 2,040 pixels per eye as Quest 3 has 2064×2208. I heard from some youtubers that in terms of blurryness, the Quest 3 has none since it uses pancake lenses and the image is sharp with a wider FOV compared to quest 2. The only advantage PSVR 2 has is the blacks, since it uses OLED panels.
Hi omar... let me get the thing in and try it first. Everyone's comments below are right on. My current theory is if you don't want wires then Quest 3 but for those with PS5s already who don't have a lot of games in Steam or Quest Store the PSVR2 might be an ok fit. It does have OLED screens which I like but it also uses fresnel lenses which I don't like. Hopefully I can give a better answer once I actually try the Quest 3. Hope you understand.
I could not care less about mixed reality and hope they ditch it for gaming and move the recourses back to full VR. If I wanted to see the real world while gaming, I'd play Xbox
LOL, yes don't believe the hype right? I'm excited for what mixed reality could bring down the road (I mean who doesn't wat to watch a 200 inch TV sitting (virtually) in your living room.) But for gaming... put me in full immersive VR anytime. Thanks for the comment and your viewpoint.
well Facebook/Meta may be at the top now doesn't mean they'll be at the top forever. they are only that way because they've been giving the best value for the customer when it comes to VR. meaning they're being good boys for now, once that changed, they'd lose their top position as well.
Believe me, if I didn't think most of my viewers would have an interest in the Quest 3, I would have skipped it... but I think this could be a great headset for a lot of different use cases so I felt I needed to actually try it before I give more of my opinion on it. Hope it ends up worth it for everyone. BTW I just call them Metabook :)
Thanks dogecoinx3093, I'm hearing that from others too so that is good that the 128GB version is still viable for those on a big budget. Again, I'm new to all this and I know my PC games are getting upwards of 100GB.
@@busterbrown1686So true... you do need to consider the files that run everything. I bet games for the Q3 will be around 20GB average based on what you all are saying. We will see.
@@flareonspotifyThe only problem I see with that is then you will have lower quality textures so the developer can meet that size requirement. I'm really curious to see how Quest games compare to PCVR now. Thanks again for your insight.
not a big upgrade from the Quest 2. No eye tracking, or facial tracking, I know that's more for Quest pro line but even the Res jump is not huge, the fov seems to be the best thing but that is to be seen. This is for people that are interested in QUEST exclusives running better, but I already have a beefy PC and only interested in things that improve that experience. I may have to wait for what Pico or Valve have to offer.
I respectfully have to disagree with you. The difference from a pancake (or aspheric) lens vs. a Fresnel lens is HUGE. That is where the "upgrade" is. It is hard to explain how much edge to edge clarity makes a difference. You really have to see it to understand. Thanks for the comment.
I thought about that too... They still have the better panels (with local dimming), but the Quest 3 is high resolution, faster processer... you get the point. Thanks for watching.
heck I don't like NIntendo either (they're a bunch of assholes who'd sue you for millions if they can just because you made a video about their game) but I love my Switch.
@@ilikestuff8218Unfortunately I kinda do, its a personal thing... voting with your wallet and all that nonsense. Again I wouldn't have done it if I didn't feel like my viewers deserve my honest opinion about the Quest 3. I feel a little like a hypocrite since I promised never to support Meta... but I'll deal with it. Thanks for trying to make me feel better at least.
Just so that you're aware, you're miles off about the 128 gb fitting 'one, maybe two' games. We don't know how large most games will be on the Q3 yet, but the Q2 only has a couple of games that are around 10 gb or more. Yes, there's a crazy large Medal of Honor game, but everything else, and I do mean everything, is tiny by comparison. The smaller Q3 will almost certainly fit an average of 10-15 games on it. Or, likely a few more even. And, if you favor smaller experiences, it'll probably fit 30-50 or more. I can barely count how many games on Q2 are less than 1 gb.
For the average person taking a punt on VR who doesn't know that they're much of a gamer or care all that much, the smaller headset should be more than adequate.
Thanks SO much Poemiserable, like I've mentioned several times in the comments below... I'm a noob at this Quest thing so any info is most appreciated. This is my first Stand Alone headset so my only frame of reference is PCVR which games are getting close to 100GB now. Anyway, I still think an extra $150 is totally worth it for 4x the storage, but nice to know that it isn't necessary. I'd really like to see this in as many new peoples hands as possible so if the $499 version is adequate that is good to know. Appreciate the comment.
You're most welcome@@GYGOtv. Great video, by the way. For more context, I'll list a few random super popular games on Q2 with their sizes. SuperHot is less than 2 GB, Population One is 4.8 GB, BONELAB is 6.64 GB, Beat Saber is 1.45 GB, Red Matter 1 and 2 are 1.4 GB and 5.36 GB respectively, After the Fall is 3.39 GB, Walking Dead and Resident Evil 4 are two of the largest games on the entire platform at a little over 6 and 8 GB respectively. Most games are like 1-3 GB. Really, the only outlier I've seen is Medal of Honor, which is crazily 41 GB but there's literally nothing else like that on the entire platform. At 12.6 GB, I think Walking Dead: Chapter 2 might be the second largest game on Quest. Anyway, if these games get patches for Q3, they'll grow a bit, but likely not a lot. It's safe to say that 128 GB will suffice for most light gamers for quite a long time, especially given how terrible the attach rates are.
The new Asgard game will be 21 Gb to be released in December 2023, however I do agree that is not the rule today, probably in a few years that will change but by then we all be looking forward for quest 4
@@NirvaGTThanks for the update, I was shocked to hear games are that small. Makes me worry that the graphics aren't going to even be close to PCVR. I guess I'll know in a couple weeks. So at say 20GB average, that is only 6 games which still isn't a lot IMO. I still recommend the upgrade to 512GB to help future proof a little. Just my 2 cents so far.
pcvr solves all problems
People say they don´t like Meta/Facebook headsets, but, they end up buying them because they know Quest 2 was a top quality build product and Quest 3 as it looks will be even better product with those pancake lenses and larger FOV etc.
I am one of those people. 😐
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I guess I'm one too :) Believe me, if it wasn't for my viewers I would not have bought this no matter how good it was. I have no interest in supporting Meta, but I hope it turns out to be for the greater good of everybody watching. We will see and thanks for the comment.
Mixed virtual reality is 100% the future, just not in a big bulky device on your face. In 50 - 100 years when computers are infinitely smaller that they can be integrated into your prescription glasses, that’s when I see mixed reality to be a thing.
Hi Dragon, ya sorry I wasn't clear... obviously MR is going to be huge in training, maintenance etc. I'm just talking about games... I still think that is going to be more of a fad. Might be wrong, but we will see.
@@GYGOtvin 20 years meta headset will be as powerful as 4090. And we will be in real virtual reality on PC ;)
@@mike_33gtYa I'm getting a little concerned at what I can expect from the quality of Quest 3 Stand Alone games... I guess we will see. Thanks for watching.
@@GYGOtv ps3 quality games. This is how PSVR2 looked to me and anyone else who tried it from my friends
Until it's lighter and more comfortable, VR will never go mainstream. I haven't found a headset somewhat comfortable since the Rift S and I'm an enthusiast.
Sounds like you need the Big Screen Beyond. We will have to see how comfortable the Quest 3 is, I think with the weight closer to your face it will be more comfortable than most other headsets. We will have to wait and see but thank you for your input.
I just another 11 nerds or the racing track. In iRacing it’s always happen so I am good. Thanks. Just hope my Aero arrives soon
@@mike_33gtLOL mike, just 11? Come on there will be more than that! Wait til iracing is an "exclusive" in the Quest Store :)
@@GYGOtv wanna bet? :D
Where I think mixed reality has a place in sims is what Varjo showed a while back with the XR3 when you have a simpit and you can mark off the area with your panels and controls and see them properly and the rest outside of that area is the virtual world.
Wasn't that a cool deal!!! Yes agreed, but I don't really count simming as "a game" but technically that is a "game" simulation that I think will be cool. I can tell you from my years in DCS, it would be so nice to be able to flip a real switch in the cockpit and actually see your hands while you do it. Thanks for the comment!
I think it doesn’t really matter about liking meta or not, for the best headsets as of now, it’s either meta, a chinese company or fairly expensive only VR headsets
LOL, yes and I seem to buy them all at this point... not the original plan but o'well there are worse things to spend money on. I just really hate Meta and what they are trying to do to the Metaverse and their whole approach to privacy etc. Just a personal thing but you are right, in the big scheme it probably doesn't really matter. Thanks for the comment.
"You're leaving performance on the table to be backwards compatible to support Quest 2" - I really don't understand this comment, it makes no sense to me. Why wouldn't you want to play Quest 2 titles first and foremost and the Quest 3 updates can come later. To me this is a win win. 😄
Hi dtrjones, what I mean is if developers are still going to make the software work on the Quest 2 then they won't be taking full advantage of the power of the new Snapdragon XR2 ver. 2 chip. I'm not talking about not playing previous Quest 2 software, I'm talking about future developed titles. Hope that makes more sense?
It would be very interesting to see a diirect comparison between Q3 and your high-end headsets Crystal/Varjo
Yep for sure... I'm very curious too! Stay tuned and thanks for watching.
I think they've done a lot with the variable resolution and settings that devs should be able to utilise the hardware of the Quest 3, while still making it work on the Quest 2. So, I don't think it will hold devs back too much. On the other hand, just think how angry people would have been if 50+ games came out with no Quest 2 support.
Thanks for the input wesselwessels. I certainly hope you are right and that was just a thought I had watching the announcement. I'm a noob at this whole Quest thing so I'll be learning a lot as I go. Appreciate everyone who helps me on this new journey.
Whether you hate Meta or not, you can't deny how impressive the Quest 2 and soon Quest 3 as a product that bring the true impressive technologies of the future while not costing too much. I'm a huge picky when it comes to techs. Never wanted to buy the new iteration within 3 years until these Quest 2 to Quest 3 but I'm still have thoughts on whether to upgrade or not
Hi toututu, yes the Quest lineup is impressive, I even recommended it as the right headset for the majority of people way back in 2021 ( ua-cam.com/video/l61-oqyZZL8/v-deo.html ) As you probably noticed in this video, I try to be fair and just because I don't like something doesn't mean it isn't right for others. My goal is for people to find the right headset to meet their needs and in most cases the Quest fits that bill. FWIW, I'd highly recommend this upgrade... the difference from Fresnel lenses to Pancake lenses is a game changer IMO. Thanks for the comment.
You know what in the pimax Crystal the eye-tracking actually was better than I estimated it was when you and I spoke before. I'm actually pretty impressed. I can now turn on msaa and still maintain 90 fps. It's pretty nice to get rid of majority of those shimmering Jaggies. I can't wait for my Weider field-of-view lenses to arrive.
Ya, I have so much I still want to test in the Crystal but I need to get Motion Comp working first. That has been an albatross around my neck for far too long now. Thanks as always for your support!
@GYGOtv agreed I finally have it as good as it's going to get untile maybe my new lighthouse faceplate arrives, and I try an alternative that takes advantage of the new faceplate.
Im upgrading from rift s, maybe mixed reality not the best for games but will be very cool with modelling apps / openbrush has pass thru!!!
O Hell ya I could see it being awesome for modelling! Again I was talking about games. I'd love to hear your thoughts coming from the rift s if you get the chance.
It's important for me that you remain unbias in your reviews despite your views on Meta. Im personally a fan of Zuck and Meta and I appreciate this approach.
I know in this day and age I'm supposed to pick a team and fight to the death to win my argument, but that isn't my style. I'm just tying my best to give people some data to help them make their own decisions and I hope it comes out that way. Thanks for watching!
Great video. If it makes you feel better, I think it's the ongoing revenue from subscriptions and game purchases in their store that really supports them. As well as any data harvesting, but they decoupled facebook login which helped a lot. Getting the headset as a once off to connect to steam isn't going to make a big difference to their bottom line since they probably don't make a lot of money on these units.
Thanks for trying to make me feel better buddy... I'll tell myself that whenever I feel "dirty". :)
Well said. You should get the Quest 3 and do a full review
Consider it done, already have it ordered. Stay tuned for more! Appreciate the comment.
Passthrough and mixed reality features are more relevant for the VR "Pron" industry than gaming, and it does make a difference. I wouldn't know personally, but had a friend tell me as much........😉
LOL, I don't know what this says about me... but I thought the same thing too... especially with the AI they are working on and those "avatars", did they also hire some adult actresses for some NSFW avatars they didn't show? We may never know... since as you say, we haven't tried those types of things. :)
IMO it's going to great for VR Racing. Being able to look at apex's by just moving my eyes :)
Absolutely, especially if you are coming from a Fresnel lens... It will probably blow you away, I know it did for me in the Aero! Thanks for watching.
Quest 3 would be better for room scale VR than Crystal.? The difference won't be so much for sharpness between Crystal or Q3 ? night and day or just not the difference?
Not sure yet, obviously the Crystal should have better visuals but will have to compare once I get them. One thing I do know is I'll be using my Index Knuckles a lot so I'm guessing the Crystal will be my main driver in roomscale. Obviously I won't be able to compare wireless (and thus image compression) until Pimaxl releases the wireless module for the Crystal, so it might be awhile. Thanks for the question.
I've bought the Quest 3 as an upgrade to the HP Reverb G2, easiest decision I've ever made - infact I bought 2, one for my brother as well. Looks a solid all around headset. I've seen enough opinions on PCVR encrypted video to know you can easily surpass the G2 picture quality if you have a decent system, so my 13900K RTX 4090 should do well in the Quest 3 for PCVR, and I can upgrade to the 14900K RTX 4090 Ti as well if required. 👍
Yep, I think this headset might take the "best value" crown from the G2 in my opinion. I want to test it for sure, but sure looks good on paper. Thanks for the comment.
Hello Mark Mr. Majestic here. I'll be looking forward to your review. 🙂
Thanks, looking forward to trying this thing out... even if I will feel a little "dirty" from buying it. Appreciate the comment.
As for PCVR use, you would think that with the much faster XR2 Gen2 chip, theoretically, it should be able to decode the video coming from the PC a lot faster thus possibly seriously reducing the visual compression. This is the problem with the Quest-2 and Pico 4, especially the Pico 4, it has the same panel resolution as the Reverb G2 but yet looks nowhere as good as the G2, I have both and for sim racing and even flight sims (MSFS), anything in the distance (looking down a race track, the farther you look, the more you can see the compression in the form of loss of detail) whereas it's still very clear in the G2. This is my biggest gripe with stand alone HMDs, what's the point of upping the resolution if the image quality will look like hell due to compression for PCVR. But then again, they don't want you to use PCVR, they want to make money selling stand alone games on their respective stores.
The Pico 5 will have higher res, and the top of the line model (Pico 5 Pro Max) will also have Display Port connection, but it's price tag will be over $1k USA. That's a little too pricey for me.
Oh yeah, the Pico 5 will have 3 models, Pico 5, Pico 5 Pro and Pico 5 Pro Max, the first two will have the same resolution (roughly similar to the Aero) the Pro Max will be in the 3k x 3k range, can't remember the exact numbers. Each model has different launch dates in 2024.
Great comment Jackr.749! That is certainly something I plan to look at when I actually get one myself! My old Vive Pro has bad compression too in wireless mode so I know what to look for. Hoping you are right and that XR2 can do a good job. I doubt it will be as good as wired but hoping it is acceptable. For me I will continue to use either the Crystal or Aero for my sims but I am curious about how good the wireless will be on the Quest 3. Unfortunately we can't "officially" get a Pico here in the States. Thanks for watching.
@@GYGOtv I'm in Canada, got my Pico 4 from AliExpress, it was a China Version, I converted it to a "Global" version by finding a site that explained how to do it by manually changing the Pico 4 firmware to "Global" LOL
Looking forward to seeing your thoughts on the Quest 3, especially for PCVR and if there is any improvement regarding compression. :)
@@jackr.749I'll keep you posted... ordered it tonight so should have it close to the 10th I hope!
Until Valve gets serious about the Deckard or Sony decides to throw a few hundred million behind PS VR 2 studios, I think the Quest 3 is the best we're going to get. I guess that'll change if/when others step into the arena, but who knows?
Right, and who knows how long Valve will take with Deckard! I think this headset is going to turn some heads so hopefully you will be pleasantly surprised too. Thanks for the comment.
99 times out of 100, people should just buy whatever product is the best for them. Who cares if you don't like the company or the CEO? The best product should always win.
I guess I care... I just don't feel right supporting a company that I fundamentally disagree with. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. And by the way... "the best products" seldom win... go back to the VHS vs. Betamax wars to see what I mean. Thanks for watching and the comment too.
@@GYGOtvI have FB for only one thing that FB does very well - Marketplace. It’s the best thing that happened since FB was crated
VALVE INDEX... has great FOV (about 40% bigger than Quest 2), 144 Hz, great sound, perfect tracking, no compression artifacts, tons of mods including RX lenses, plano lenses, weight kits, native STEAM and awesome controllers. Pass.
I hear you, the Index was amazing for it's time but it also had bad glare, screen door effect and no wireless option. Most of those other things you mention will come to the Quest 3 in time. We just need to see Deckard, I hope it sets a new standard just like the Index did! Thanks for your comment.
How about if it had cellular connectivity and some face and maybe eye trakcing ?
Ps.: i think youre wrong. The mixed reality is the future. And im not talking about games. Im talking about life, conectivity and social interaction even .
Hi stel... I think eye tracking would be a big one but obviously that all adds to the cost. As for the Mixed Reality, I'm talking about for gaming. Obviously I see huge potential for training, service work all that kind of stuff. I just think for gaming, people are going to want to be immersed in a new world, not adding elements to their rooms. The only game scenario that might have some traction would be like playing Demeo or a board game on your actual tabletop. Of course I might be wrong, but that is my gut feeling. Thanks for watching.
Quest 3 512 gb version with the Elite Strap with battery is a must buy for me, add my attachable MYJK earphones or some ear buds and I am all set, I'm debating on whether I should buy the charging dock for the Quest 3, that's another $129, do you think the charging dock is really worth it and necessary for the Quest 3?, I didn't have a charging dock for the Quest 1 and Quest 2, I always just used the charging cable and adapter that came with the headsets before
Hi midnightrocker7, unfortunately I'm a total noob when it comes to Quest as this is my first purchase (I only bought the headset right now). From what I remember from my research on the Quest 2, a Elite Strap with a battery (or aftermarket equivalent) was a necessity for roomscale so good call there. I wasn't planning the charging dock because I don't think it charges the controllers so I can just as easily plug the headset into a USB-C as set it on a dock. Let me get my hands on this thing and I might be able to give a better answer, but for now those are my thoughts. Thanks for watching.
I did pre order it already but i have been thinking about canceling it. I feel the same about Meta. But i inversion a few uses for AR/MR. help with home repair/maintenance cars/trucks ect... look at something and pull down a schematic. or a how too. I do own a oculus rift. i did not like being forced into a meta account. I bought all my VR software from steam. But i am looking forward to playing table top simulator with the wife in MR would be fun. at a 50/50 now if i should cancel it. I did get the 512 version in hopes that someone will make a OS for it:)
I so agree with so much of what you are saying! If you are coming from the rift, this will be a HUGE step up so I'd recommend keeping it to at least try it out. It is hard to explain how much better non-Fresnel lenses are (at least to me). As for the AR/MR... I'd be excited to play Demeo on my actual Table but not much else really interest me. Plus I guess the battery life is going to suck when you use the cameras (like less than 2 hours). I guess we will all see when it gets shipped. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@GYGOtv I hate to ask but Meta support is giving me the run around telling me to watch for new FAQ's, they don't know. does the USB C link cord need to be plugged into the video card? or any usb c will work? i have a 60watt USB C on the front of my case. (I don't have USB c on video output) I seen the usb 3.0 adaptor so I guessed i did not need that output on my video.
@@GYGOtv I forgot you did not own the quest 2 ignore my question. unless you know?¿?
@@st0mper121No problem, I really don't know. I'd guess you would need a video out USB-C for PCVR if that is what you are talking about. Are there any videos out there re: this with a Quest 2? I'd imagine it would be the same as the Quest 3. Now you have me interested to know the answer as well.
@@st0mper121Hey st0mper121, I've been looking into this for you. It looks like you do not need to have video out on the connector, in fact you can use a high bandwidth USB-A to C even. Apparently the video signal is encoded and set to the headset as data where it is decoded to make the image. People do recommend a good cable for a quicker data transfer, and many recommend the Kiwi cable as it is light, good quality and fast data transfer ( amzn.to/3LI1Cw8 ) Almost everyone says don't buy the overpriced Meta cable. One other note since you mentioned the USB-C on the front of your computer... that seems to do better at keeping the headset charged (better power delivery than a USB-A), so you might see if you can find a good USB-C to USB-C if you want that perk. I hope that helps and good luck.
I'm curious if you will use the Quest 3 in DCS? Id like to upgrade from my G2 but i dont have the room set up to do base stations and the Pimax Crystal is really my only option. From what I'm reading about the after sales support and QC of the Crystal, even on their discord, it is really discouraging for the price.
Hi salimelayan, I doubt I'll use the Quest 3 because at 25ppd it will be less sharp than the Aero or Crystal. I'll likely give it a try but I can't imagine the experience will be as good as those other ones. PLUS the Dynamic Foveated rendering really improves performance and without eye tracking, the Quest 3 won't be able to do that. Now if it is a good replacement for the G2 is another question and I'll try to give my opinion on how it compares once I use it a little. Stay tuned and thanks for the question.
Thanks for the reply. You have some really well done videos covering the details of the other headsets. Looking forward to the review nonetheless.
@@sze5003No problem... my gut feeling is the Quest 3 will be a good upgrade from the G2 (which has held the crown of best value headset for me since it came out), but I won't know for sure until I get to use it. Appreciate you watching our content, and thanks again for the question.
Best thing you can do is buy quest3( in your case i would probably upgrade that Logitech wheel 1st:)) and only use it for pcvr then they probably only lose money on the sale but you are probably wrong on the 512gb version its just not worth it most people play only a few games at a time and they are much smaller size its a mobile platform. You are right not sure why these companies keep pushing MR its just a gimmick that budget should have went into eye tracking would provide foveated rendering and extra in game features using it in games like on psvr2.
Can we please NOT have the Logitech wheel discussion again :) I've had other people tell me about the capacity thing too and that makes me worry a little about the quality of these stand alone experiences... good thing I'll have one soon enough so I can see for myselt. Appreciate the info, as I said, I've never owned a Quest before so I'm still learning all this as we go. Thanks for the info.
Future games maybe 20gb or more. Asgards wrath 2 is 25gb ( installed with pre orders). Updates need space as well. 3 games a few updates and patches your done
@@GYGOtv but that wheel is just sitting there in the background taunting us :D
@@busterbrown1686 yes it can be an issue for heavier users(i still have 64Gb Q2) but if you do move to that $650 it makes it unappealing they did this on purpose to upsell and considering how cheap flash is these days it should have started at 256gb.
@@EskoxoLOL, good one. You guys are going to feel really dumb when I upgrade and am like... "Really not much difference" :)
So Mixed reality is going to be good. But you are thinking about the wrong usecase. Even with the Quest Pro now You can Use Virtual desktop and the Oculus Browser in Multitasking to create a Two monitor Setup Being able to put a Big screen on your wall to Pancake game on with having a moveable interactable screen beside you is great. Meta seem like they are going to expand that.
But Forget VD. You can Sideload a Browser like Brave, Then sideload GeForce Now and Game pass, Sideload Discord and with modest to good internet (40Mbps+) you basically have a 3 monitor Setup. Immursed Lets you do that using your PC power. With Spacial anchors coming to Q3 for Home environment Being able to customise your actual environment will be cool. MR Will have cool games and experiences. But what MR will ultimately let you do is replace Devices you already use for Virtual ones with added benefit of Freedom
Hi LionheartTM, yes I guess I wasn't clear... I mean MR Gaming, obviously the other use cases like you mention are going to be a thing. I just think MR games are going to be more of a fad. I might be wrong, but time will tell. Thanks for calling me out so I could clarify it, and thanks for the view.
@@GYGOtv The games them selves. There is potential for great experiences. Nintendo Style games would work very well in MR. But also Imersive games can be improved by MR. Ill give an example. Imagine WDS&S But instead of the camp being the bus. The camp is your Room. You could put Weapon racks on your walls and bring trophies back and decorate your room. Not only would it make the game more personal but naturally giving you a passthrough break as part of the game would be good. Lets go from a different hypothetical angle. Imagine if Pancake games could add AR features. Say BG3 during events where you talk to people appeared in your room and actually talked to you. Or other games let you pull out UI elements in to the AR space. Like character sheets, Maps. Things like player housing in games. The Housing is your own home and items you collected in game can be used to decorate your house. turn your desk in to a crafting station etc. That is Very possible it just needs an environment app running on the Quest with a video streamer. A universal app could be made or Studios could make per game apps. OFC this would take Pancake studios taking interest to do such a thing But its 100% possible. Hell its something Modders could do.
@@LionheartTMI hear you, but I those scenarios just don't interest me. I'd rather be in a virtual world not stuck in my house, and coming back to my room from say BG3 would just be immersion breaking. Again, I hear what you are saying and I might be in the minority but for me bringing back trophies and "decorating" my house doesn't do much because guess what... nobody else is going to see it unless they have MR going too. Again, this might be exciting at first but I think the novelty will wear off very quickly. Just my opinion but I guess we will see. Anyway, thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed comment. I do appreciate your point of view.
Did this guy say the 128 will hold "MAYBE" a game?? My 128 quest 2 has like 20 games and only like 2 or 3 are over 10gb. 128 should be more than enough
Yep this guy did say that... but this guy also doesn't have any experience with Quest Standalone so my only frame of reference is PCVR and those titles are easily 100GB nowdays. Again, I'm still learning so I appreciate everyone's feedback on this new "Quest" I'm on (see what I did there). The good news is once I get mine, I'll have a better idea of the storage. Thanks for your input.
What is your opinion on psvr2 is it better than the quest 3 ?
Quest 3 not only is standalone (no wires) it is also AR and VR both Worlds together.
PSVR 2 is VR only, no PC compatibility, you need to have a PS5 too.
I would say Quest 3 is better as it has the full package os games, apps, compatibility and support.
@@3DModelsToys thanks the input. Does it have better image then the psvr2 ? Like less blurry, sharper image etc
@@omar-9617 PSVR 2 has 2,000 x 2,040 pixels per eye as Quest 3 has 2064×2208.
I heard from some youtubers that in terms of blurryness, the Quest 3 has none since it uses pancake lenses and the image is sharp with a wider FOV compared to quest 2.
The only advantage PSVR 2 has is the blacks, since it uses OLED panels.
Hi omar... let me get the thing in and try it first. Everyone's comments below are right on. My current theory is if you don't want wires then Quest 3 but for those with PS5s already who don't have a lot of games in Steam or Quest Store the PSVR2 might be an ok fit. It does have OLED screens which I like but it also uses fresnel lenses which I don't like. Hopefully I can give a better answer once I actually try the Quest 3. Hope you understand.
I feel like you look like that dude that shouldn’t be in VR chat talking to younger kids 😂
Well the good news is I don't do VR Chat :) Guess I should sell my panel van though. Thanks for the comment... I think?
I could not care less about mixed reality and hope they ditch it for gaming and move the recourses back to full VR. If I wanted to see the real world while gaming, I'd play Xbox
LOL, yes don't believe the hype right? I'm excited for what mixed reality could bring down the road (I mean who doesn't wat to watch a 200 inch TV sitting (virtually) in your living room.) But for gaming... put me in full immersive VR anytime. Thanks for the comment and your viewpoint.
Idk... supporting Facebook... may have to stop using those affiliate links..... LOL... seriously thanks for info.
Actually supporting my viewers! FB support is just a side effect. Thanks for watching.
Sometimes it works out like that huh? Who knows maybe it will be a sweet headset. @@GYGOtv
oh ya...just a reminder... better start saving those affiliate funds for Apple Vision Pro! LOL @@GYGOtv
well Facebook/Meta may be at the top now doesn't mean they'll be at the top forever.
they are only that way because they've been giving the best value for the customer when it comes to VR.
meaning they're being good boys for now,
once that changed, they'd lose their top position as well.
Believe me, if I didn't think most of my viewers would have an interest in the Quest 3, I would have skipped it... but I think this could be a great headset for a lot of different use cases so I felt I needed to actually try it before I give more of my opinion on it. Hope it ends up worth it for everyone. BTW I just call them Metabook :)
You can download 15 games on a 128. You can download 60 games on a 512
Thanks dogecoinx3093, I'm hearing that from others too so that is good that the 128GB version is still viable for those on a big budget. Again, I'm new to all this and I know my PC games are getting upwards of 100GB.
updates need room too ! all the added tech from Q2 will mean bigger files.
@@busterbrown1686So true... you do need to consider the files that run everything. I bet games for the Q3 will be around 20GB average based on what you all are saying. We will see.
@@GYGOtv yeah they need to standardize a memory limit on games.
@@flareonspotifyThe only problem I see with that is then you will have lower quality textures so the developer can meet that size requirement. I'm really curious to see how Quest games compare to PCVR now. Thanks again for your insight.
not a big upgrade from the Quest 2. No eye tracking, or facial tracking, I know that's more for Quest pro line but even the Res jump is not huge, the fov seems to be the best thing but that is to be seen. This is for people that are interested in QUEST exclusives running better, but I already have a beefy PC and only interested in things that improve that experience. I may have to wait for what Pico or Valve have to offer.
I respectfully have to disagree with you. The difference from a pancake (or aspheric) lens vs. a Fresnel lens is HUGE. That is where the "upgrade" is. It is hard to explain how much edge to edge clarity makes a difference. You really have to see it to understand. Thanks for the comment.
rip quest pro users
I thought about that too... They still have the better panels (with local dimming), but the Quest 3 is high resolution, faster processer... you get the point. Thanks for watching.
No it's not
Can to provide any more detail as to your opinion? I'm just curious.
heck I don't like NIntendo either (they're a bunch of assholes who'd sue you for millions if they can just because you made a video about their game)
but I love my Switch.
you don't have to like the company to buy their stuff.
@@ilikestuff8218Unfortunately I kinda do, its a personal thing... voting with your wallet and all that nonsense. Again I wouldn't have done it if I didn't feel like my viewers deserve my honest opinion about the Quest 3. I feel a little like a hypocrite since I promised never to support Meta... but I'll deal with it. Thanks for trying to make me feel better at least.