Dodge Dakota Part 2, Shuts Off when Driving
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2014
- Hi Everyone: Here is the follow up video showing the problems on this vehicle. As you can see there are alot of factors involved in repairing these types of problems. After I install the crankshaft sensor I will drive it around for a few days to make sure that everything is functioning properly. During the test driving period it shut off again, this time there was a voltage change in the throttle position sensor when it wasn't supposed to change. Testing with the Snap-on Vantage never showed a problem and thru this entire experience the check engine light never came on. Now this engine is running at an Optimal level! For more information be sure to visist: www.johnsadlersautorepair.com
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Thanks for showing this John. You seem to take pride in your work and many people don't understand or appreciate what it takes to finish a job right.
I gotta say this is one of, or is, the best "how-to" automotive repair videos I've seen. You went step by step and what also helps us viewers is that you had someone else recording. Great job. Now about the truck. My wife has a 2003 Dakota, 4 dr (aka Quadcab), v8 4.7. The last few years it has started giving us issues which led me into learning ALOT about these trucks. About the fuel pump, I dropped the tank and replaced the pump yet to get the same problem. She still had to cycle the key 3 times because it wouldn't hold pressure. That's actually the Regulator that's attached to the pump. Which there's a workaround; simply buy a fuel safe check valve which will keep fuel from going backwards. Another thing for your issue with stalling while turning or steering; replace the power steering pressure sensor. They tend to short or go bad by fluids dripping onto the wiring which runs down the wire and into the sensor. It's about $20 from Rockauto. Now I am gonna try cleaning the throttle body and whatnot. BUT, we had an issue with the truck having issues idling, stalling, hesitation, etc so after researching I replaced the TPS (Throttle Position Sensor), which is mounted on the throttle body, and it completely stopped all those problems. The TPS is about $30 from Rockauto. Another thing, unrelated, these trucks sometimes will build up corrosion on the battery terminals even if you just cleaned them off. Most people buy a new battery yet get the same problem. It's not the battery, it's the Battery Temperature Sensor (about $15 at Rockauto) which is mounted in the battery box that you'll see when you remove the battery. I hope this helps someone. Again great job John
Much appreciated, thank you sir
Your a true craftsman, that is becoming a lost art in america. Thank you.
I am a mechanic and you made a perfect video of how us honest mechanics are just trying to fix the car for them and it's never just hook up a scan tool and replace apart it's always diagnosing and testing to find the problems, great job on the video
Thanks very much !!!
John thank you very much for taking the time to show how difficult these problems can be. Anyone who needs a good mechanic in your area would do well to bring their vehicle to you. I have a '94 Dakota SLT 5.2 2wd that we have owned since new with an intermittent stalling issue that has taken quite a while to correct. Mostly because of a lie that a dealer mechanic told me many years ago when the OEM fuel level sender quit working. Your video has dispelled all the misinformation and shed light on several of the issues we have found on our '94. She's running great now with 160,000 miles and many more to go!
Thanks John, after watching your video, I suggested to my friend to change out the ignition key module cylinder that might be causing his 98 Dakota to stall while driving. (key came out in on position)
He spent money on new fuel pump, new oxygen sensors, new crank position sensor, new ignition coils, new ignition pick up coil, new spark plugs. He finally changed out ignition key lock cylinder and now the truck runs great with no more stalling. Thanks again for posting this info, too bad we didn't see your video before doing all this work
Your welcome Brian !!!
The most comprehensive Dakota/Durango "engine dies when stopping or turning" video on UA-cam! I don't know how I came across this (it certainly wasn't via keywords or the title) but, I'm sure glad I did! Thanks for the help! Even if this video is 8 years old, it's still ABSOLUTELY relevant. 👍
Thanks John!!!!
John, I have a 99 Dakota and I love it. I work on it myself but I'm not a mechanic, im a carpenter, but I am very mechanically inclined. I want to learn more about these trucks, especially maximize my fuel economy as i have a 5.3 and a 5 speed with 4 wheel drive. Can you please make more. I really appreciate the time you took to make this video. Very informative and helpful.
I enjoyed watching your step-by-step trouble shooting and follow-up resolution on this vehicle. Your customer in this case may not have appreciated your expertise. This experience shade-tree mechanic certainly does. Thanks for taking the time to make the video and elevate it to youtube.
Wow, old video but well made. I go through the same thing with customers. They expect immediate answers to problem that they've ignored for years, not realizing that you have to go through one symptom at a time. And not accepting responsibility that some of it is from their own neglect. Or, when they take it to other shop first, and they chase a problem in another direction and miss something or change a part that makes it worse or screws up something else. Like a kid that just finished tech school believing they know it all only to find out they didn't learn anything without the hands on experience. 40+ years I've been doing this trade and still learning. Thanks for the vid.
Your very welcome!
THIS MAN IS WHAT YOU CALL A REAL MECHANIC, I WISH HE WAS CLOSE BY, I WOULD BRING MY TRUCK TO HIM ASAP. GREAT JOB.
Thanks So much Harry!!!
This is great video! Thank you so mucj for the time !! Im having a simular problem with my durango which is why i ended up here! Really do appreciate this video !! Very thorough!
Awesome job John. I wish I could bring my '93 Dakota in for a overhaul.
This was one of the best videos I've seen. Thank you for your attention to detail and patience.
Your very welcome Rocco !!!!
John you rock! Thank you so much for making this video , my truck has ALL of these symptoms + the speed sensor wires going into the top of the rear differential had pulled loose. I’ve lost 2 jobs in the last three weeks due to this truck finally I feel like there’s some hope of fixing it!!! I don’t know where your shop is but I’d like to send all my friends and family to you for sure!
Your very welcome!! I'm in San Diego County.
609 Felicita Avenue, Spring Valley, Calif. 91977. 619-464-6088
JOHN WE NEED MORE MEN LIKE YOU..AGAIN GREAT JOB JOHN, FOR ME YOUR ONE OF THE BEST AROUND#1
Thanks for people like you, very honest, taking the time to fix it right. Great video. 👍
Your very welcome !!!!
You are a good guy and tech John . I am owner /operator of SDRS Excele Mobile Mechanic and I can most definately relate to your situation. I actually video all my jobs for this very reason. Thank you for sharing . I wish you the best life can offer in good health and prosperity .
JOHN its hard to relate to customers that more than 3 times out of 5 theres nothing says you can't have multiple things wrong at the same time,more complex it is the more diagnostic needs done ,take a bow you are understood by other mechanics,good job,systematic parts replacement
Thanks Strattuner!!!
I can tell you one thing, and you probably already know, there are always people who are unrealistic as far as repairs go! It’s very hard to find a good honest repair shop/ owner but when you do, you’d be smart to treat them like family because they are the life line to your trouble free transportation! Mistakes might happen, a lot of the time there are multiple issues surrounding a problem. Be realistic, this video is a real good example of what scan tools can’t do!
Sounds like my truck they said they couldn't duplicate what I told them. That it randomly died. My key comes out like that too lol. You have given me new appreciation for mechanics they have a daunting task trying to please everyone when prices are so high and customer patience is so short. Thanks Dale
Hi Dale, another thing to do is invest in a scan tool that shows the voltages and percentages. Get some one to drive for you and from the passenger seat watch the TPS, LTFT, ALTERNATOR VOLTAGE, CRANKSHAFT POSITION SENSOR IDLE AIR CONTROL, look for any voltage dropouts , example if the tps is 1 volt at idle and 4.5 volts at full throttle and your cruising at 60 mph. You should see 2.5 to 3.5 volts steady. If you see it drop to .5 volts and back up again that sensor is failing.
Nice too see honest folks doing a tradesman/craftsman's job.
I agree with many of the other comments
Thank You !!!!!
This was very informative. I plan on giving this information to my mechanic. I am having very similar issues with my 1999 Dodge Durango. I appreciate that you really care!!!
Lisa J Your Very Welcome Lisa!
great job on all your repairs, ive removed a ton of alarms that caused same problems. very trust worthy shop!!!
Thanks Paul !
It is so sad that most of the new generations mechanics don’t have this professionalism grade. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Your welcome Ruben!!!
I feel your pain.
I seem to get cars like this in after a dealership quits on them. I actually have an '03 5.9L Dakota in with similar issues.
NOT ALL PROBLEMS SHOW THEMSELVES WITH A CHECK ENGINE LIGHT!
Getting Joe Public to understanding that is nearly impossible. There are so many areas that just don't show themselves unless you use a scope and VOM. EVEN THEN THEY CAN BE GHOSTS...COMING AND GOING. Fuel issues is becoming more common like yours. Especially after a vehicle has been stored for any real length of time. Mine was in storage for 15 months and mice and other rodents had total access...I'm sure you understand my pain with this unit. I've used nearly my full arsenal of diagnostic and testing tools and still have some stalling issues. I came to your video and found you've done almost the same, just a variation of the order. My next test will be the crank sensor...Thanks for that heads up. I hadn't gotten there yet and maybe wouldn't have without seeing this video. I'm never claim to be a GURU or best but not the worst either, and always willing to learn new things.
Like you I've donated parts.......reasons probably the same.
You certainly had your hands full with this one. Like you, first thing I will do with aftermarket alarms if a vehicle is having strange issues with no codes is jerk it out...often that alone fixes a lot of issues with no further action. Another thing Jane Public can't understand. "It always worked fine before" Ever heard that one?
Anyway, I just wanted to compliment you on your diagnosis and how you explained your thought process and how you arrived at your fixes.
Keep your sanity and know others are having the same headaches.
Great Video.
Robert Lundbohm Thanks Robert!
Wow you know your staff , respect to you many years of experience, I do have the same problem with 1999 dakota. Will use your advice in fixing mine thxs for the video very clear and to the point.
Your welcome Carlos!
Great Video. Sometimes people don't understand what goes in to diagnosing problems on vehicles, most seem to think the magical scanner will tell all. That's not always the case. Again, great vid,
Thanks Rayzar !!!!
John....great video. I do as much of my own mechanic work on my vehicles as I can. People that don't know beans about fixing a car just don't understand what goes into repairing them. Most of them think all you have to do is replace a part and it's done. If they could work in a shop with a mechanic that knows what he is doing they would understand more about what goes on in fixing a car or truck. I like your attention to detail and doing things right. You could work on my vehicle any time. Thanks for our dedication.
+Jim Pinckard Thanks Jim !!!!!
Thank you for your insight...I have a better appreciation for the work done and cost involved.
Your welcome Lisa! If I worked for another company they would already fire me for spending to much time on the customers vehicle.
2021 and this video is still helpful. Thanks a lot.
Your very welcome!!!
I have a 05 Dakota 3.7L 4x4. I used to have the problem where the truck would shut off while driving which was very dangerous. I never had an issue where the key would fall out. After I took it back to the Dodge dealership that I bought it from, I spoke to a locksmith that said that sometimes the weight of a keychain full of keys can sometimes put too much weight on the key ignition chamber and that technically you should only have the vehicle key on that key chain for that reason. So I started doing that and never had the problem again. ( fingers crossed) I have put about 30K on since then.
That's Great! I tell customers all the time to not have so many keys on there key chain.
you sir are a true artist of auto mechanics
Thanks!!!! The customer wasn't happy at all with me, I saw her 3 months later in a coffee shop and she ran up and gave me a big hug and thanked me! I almost went into shock from the way I got treated before. Driving on the freeway she saw a stalled car get hit in the rear and it was terrible. She then realized that could have been her.
@@JohnSadlersAutoRepair i love it when people see not everyone is a pos its life changing for both people
Hey John I got a 2001 Dodge Dakota 4.7 L sometimes it runs perfect and sometimes it start messing up doing all kind of things I brought two three different auto parts store to get to get the codes each one gives me three different codes every time and run good for wild and start messing up doing all kind of things jerking and when I kill it's hard to start all different kind of things you're a good man John
What were the codes? How long before it restarts ?
John Sadler's Auto Repair hey John I never emailed anybody before I took the computer out in one or two plugs head like a little brown or Luke and stuff so I clean it out with metrical spray connections let it dry put the computer back in and it done the same thing when I took a ride in it the auto parts store the code one of them po 7 25 the other code PO 601 and the other code PO 320 I thought the other auto parts store gave me three different codes but they the same they just name them something different like to po325 one of the parts store cause of the camshaft position sensor the other Auto Parts says that po320 engine speed circuit they call each coach different from one store to the other I took the computer out one of the plugs have low oil in it looks like oil I put it all back together and Rain good for a couple minutes then it started running bad again I get up to 65 miles an hour and it starts jerking the fast as I can go at 60 miles an hour then when I stop adding light it wants to kill I'm sorry it took so long to get back with you I never email before like I said I'm going to order another computer I hope you can help me and thank you very much John will getting back in touch with me I sure appreciate it
my 03 durango is doing the same thing sorta. I replaced the head gasket and did all the gaskets and torqued everything by the book. cleaned the iac , SUPER DIRTY! was pretty gummy inside. seems to run worse since I cleaned it. should I replace it? typically only chokes in the morning time. when I give it gas it comes back to where it needs to be, normal.
idle air control has been replaced ! 2002 Dodge Dakota stalls driving or idling --any ideas
This was a tough one. Multiple problems loosely associated with others. Most customers don't understand how difficult repairs like this can become. One issue overlapping into another can really add up quickly, leading to "repair bill shock".
I need your help, I have same problem with my truck too . Is a Dodge Dakota 2001 4x4 5.9 engine
Thank you for taking your time to make this video
Your welcome Tim!
John, I wish your shop was in my town. I feel most mechanics won't spend this much time trying to figure out the problem or just don't know as much as you do about the electronics on a vehicle. Most of them might put in a part, but won't exactly fix the problem. Your a professional at your craft.. My 2003 Dakota does the same thing. It starts fine the first time of the day, but will cut off sometimes while I'm driving down the road. Then when I try to crank it back up the engine sounds like it's flooded and just whines. Finally it will start back up. My check engine light is on, so I'm hoping this will give them the information they need to pinpoint the problem (s).
+Summer Snow HI Summer: That should help them, with the light on. Please show them the video if you think it will help and let me know what happens. John
+john sadler John, I took my truck in to get fixed and it came up as a bad crankshaft sensor. They put a new one in and so far it's running great. Check engine light's out. So hopefully that's all it was.
That's Great news Summer !!!
You are very theral . You help me a great deal. My 2000 six cyl. Cut off on freeway second time today I still haven't made it home. I have the ignition key comes out. Iam sure idle air control probably bad as well along with the relay. And definitely the crank sheft sensor. Thank you for what you do. I hope that lady bake you a cake a pie an a big butt tip. You went above and beyond. But when you good to others it will come back to you not from her. I doubt that. Not to rag on yr. Customers. I wish I had veiwed this day one. Cause all what u did it I would have brought it it. May be the Good be LORD bless you. That is a person that wants something for nothing. And wouldn't go out their way for no one in less they getting paid. Cause if she didn't have the money to have it done right she could have been appreciative of great customer service skills and verbally sharing her gradituted. People like that can make it hard for a poor person who may need that extra. Love and good businessship. Iam out have a great day my brother
Your very welcome Preniss!!!!
God bless you also for your time to write me this message. This really helps my day, thanks!
8-25-15 I was looking at the 2004 model of slt club cab as a hunting vehicle for this fall what is your overall thoughts on this vehicle. Your knowledge is appreciated.
Awsome job on the truck and awsome job on the Explanation to the customers on way it take so much time on are part to fix things the right way
Thanks Jerry!
Great video. Thank you for your time.
Great work honest mechanic some times you can’t please every customer
Thanks J B !!!
I’m having the same problem can you come to Atlanta and fix it for me
That's a lot of diagnostic time put into, you rock.
Thanks Toan!
I have a 03 dodge Durango 4.7 I just bought the Durango cheap the previous owner hasn't started it in 4 years when they parked it it just died on them driving and stated it would die in reverse then about a week later completely die woudnt start. for me it turns over sounds like it wants to start I changed the crank and cam sensors key lock cylinder (key was coming out in any position) change plugs has spark but kinda weak and plugs smell like gas and smells like flooding out so iam assuming its getting plenty of gas I don't know what else to check or do any ideas would be apprciated
hi i have a 2004 Dodge Dakota SLT 4.7 it has a code po344 cps thanks for your video now i can fix it.
Your welcome!
I'm having the issue of my 98 dakota turning of on me I just replace the fuel pump yesterday thinking that was the problem I guess is not since early today on my way to work my truck turn off on me I try turning it on again and nothing untill I got out and hit the gas tank and after 3to4 try it fired back up, I'm wondering what could it be I see you did a couple of thing to that dakota and I'm not sure if is the fuel line that are clough or a censor if you can help me or give me an idea I will appreciate.
Hi John I have the dodge dakota i finally have had this code come on P1391 Intermittent loss of CMP OR CKP do you know what this is ? what i can do about it . Is it because of the alarm , it has stopped working for about a month . this is my suspect . its a alarm with a romote start. wondering if yu can help me out . The vehicle dies out when it gets hot at operating temp. thanks
2002 Durango 5.9. I'm having a start problem. Crank for 3 seconds and nothing. Turn off and crank again and it fires right up. I attached a regulator and when just turning on the key you can hear the pump but it only gets to about 5 PSI. When it fires it holds steady at 51 and runs and idles perfect. When you shut off the engine the pressure drops to 0 within about 20 seconds. Im thinking the fuel pump/fuel pressure regulator is bad. Is there anything else that might be the culprit before I go through the process of replacing the fuel pump only to find out that wasn't it?
My 1999 Dodge Van 3500 5.9 gas engine sometimes will Shut Down on me.. I've replace Relays in engine bay next to Battery. Replace Distributor Sensor and Cap N/Rotor. I still having issues with it..
Bro, I go through the same thing with my computer systems. Great job engie.
Joel Witherspoon Thanks Joel!!!
hey john thanks for the vidieo having some problems myself had my dodge Dakota parked for some time in the winter went to start it up in the spring but wouldn't start changed the plugs and coil still no fire put on a tester wouldn't read but turned the key gauges all moved and was able to start up was good for a couple of days and the nothing gauges wouldn't come up put tester on again and tried key hoping to get lucky nothing have watched different vidieos and have tried different things without getting into a lot of money knowing these things can be a money pit at times just last night started working on it again and heard that clicking noise you showed on your vidieo phoned a friend and asked if he knew what it was wasn't sure himself had me puzzeled went out today turned the key a followed the sound pulled out the relay and it stopped so now I'm thinking its the relay switched it with the one beside it but still doing the same thing so asked another friend in the yard today asked if he would help me push it away from the fence so I could do some work on it so I had put it in neutral had asked him if he knew what this clicking sound was turned the key and to my surprise it started right up but no gauges are working llet it charge up good then shut it off nothing tried park back to neutral nothing tried grounding the vichile still nothing switching back and forth it finally fired up so I'm not sure if its because of the key because it pulls right out or if its the shifter and still not sure why the gauges are failing to come back if you have any feed back or vidieo on this It would be very helpful and thanks again for the vidieo I'm getting closer
I have a 03 Dakota and my key comes out at any position. I had a problem with the vehicle shutting off randomly but it was the ECU that was bad.
How did you know it was ecu? Mine is shutting off while driving, but it seems like it's stalling bc of no gas--as when i give it continuous gas it works.
@@taylorj6177 Yeah its really hard to know for sure. I would let a professional look at it. I knew mine was electrical thats why i got a ecu.
@@2baldtires444 Well, discovered at least a couple of things lol: checked the spark plugs: one was literally cracked. THEN, get this, I just so happened to be (thank god) feeling around the throttle body/ intake, when I noticed a "rattle" , the manifold/ headers were literally shaking. Whoever the genius who last worked on thecar was, neglected to tighten both the bolts bolting it to the head!!!! They were almost falling out!! Still has the most mysterious rattle tho. But runs much better.
What was the last sensor you spoke about in the bell housing? The one that was out of your own money and your own time? I am eager to learn from you.
Unfortunately I don't have anything quite that elaborate to troubleshoot with. I only have a couple of nice Fluke DMM's, a fairly basic code reader, and a test light. I really hate throwing parts at a problem, but without the proper means of testing a component, sometimes you don't have much choice.
Good job John!
Thanks!!!
thanks for youre tips you helped me out big time bro.
Great! Your welcome James!
Patents of jobe, got one myself, shakes when it idles, how done a lot of what was done here, maybe bad injector on mine, hope that's all! Great video(I've driven these Dakotas for years, 150,000 miles or more with no problems, change oil, plugs, brakes, and now I purchased 2002, with 100,000 miles on it, won't do right)
Lemme know what you find out Donnie.
@@JohnSadlersAutoRepair Thanks, I will. I might just sell it as is(that's why I bought it)idle was rough when I purchase it, but I could see a bad vacuum hose on it(thought this be easy)with all I have done it idles right at 700 rpm, no jumping, but has that shake still there. But, the transmission had been changed was wondering if it just a balance problem(was a jasper)filler tube rubs hood(maybe the h d transmission,is that possible? )Thanks for your time, enjoy tour videos!
update, it finally die wouldn't start, put a new ignition coil on and it's running good, no shaking, little quiver(but most Dakotas have that)stronger, and much quicker on acceleration. I'm really happy with it. She wants me to keep it, and sell the van!
@@donnieshepperson126 Yaaaaay!!!!
I had the same issue, 04 Ram 1500 5.7 truck would shut down while driving randomly. Found grounding bolt by the ECM harnesses lose. Tighten it down and no more problems.
Robert Hernandez that's great! Thanks for the info Robert.
Also changed crank sensor and two other sensors close to the idle air
Hello! I know this is an older video, and a great video!!!, but what was the ultimate fix? I have an 02 Durango 4.7 shuts off when it wants. New crank & cam sensors, everything clean on the engine, BG fuel service. It will always start right back up but will shut off when ever it wants, no specific condition for it to do it. No codes or lights of course. Thank you 11
I would hook up a scan tool and driving around a parking lot or some big area without much traffic, Watch your throttle position sensor , iac and ignition voltage to see if there are any glitches or dropouts.
This one obviously had a combination of problems.
Thanks for the video John . I have a dodge Dakota and recently the alarm and the remote start stop working . the alarm is old . My question is? when my truck runs for about 10 to 15 minutes it shuts off , i turn it back on dies out in reverse and other gears i put it in . i'm thinking should the alarm come out . and I replaced the iac . Any Suggestions thanks .
Any codes? If you can drive around with a scan tool on and watch the tps and cps to make sure no dropouts in voltage or signal when your driving. When sensors fail sometimes they will show fluctuation when your just cruising at one speed, then you know that sensor is bad for sure.
I always remove aftermarket alarm systems when this issue is going on, even though it may not be the problem. Especially if it's old. Keep me posted.
ok thanks I will try this out
good job john.
Thanks Harry!
Awesome job, good man!
Thanks Gheorghe !!!
So how much will all this cost?
Where is your business, is it in San Jose, California, as I need a mechanic here, for the stalling problem on a 94 Camry. Just had a refurbished computer installed, didn't take care of problem, and shop got my car damaged with a dent. More headaches and have to go somewhere else. But don't think I can go back to this awful place. Now I owe for that repair.
It's me again with a 2001 Dodge Dakota with a 4.7 L I didn't get to finish my what I wanted to say and it cut off I brought the truck to three different auto parts store they plugged in this thing to get the codes each one gives me three different codes in a mechanic shops don't want to fool with it thanks John
I have a 2000 Dakota and here lately it has been dying just going down the road. When this happens, it acts like it's starving for gas and/or air. I've also got a problem with the gas tank building way too much pressure. New distributor cap, plugs,wires,new gas cap,new air filter and new IAC valve. Any suggestions for a fixed income solution?
Hi Edward, when it stops running you need to find out if it's fuel or spark.
You can rent a fuel pressure gauge to hook up on the fuel injection rail, most auto parts stores rent them now. So when it stops running and you open the hood and the fuel pressure gauge shows pressure it's probably a spark problem and you can remove one spark plug wire and put an extra spark plug in the end of the wire, crank over the engine and see if there is spark. After you know that let me know and I'll tell you the next step.
mine was a bad switch and key lock
Hello john i have 2001 Dakota 4 .7 the engine off when stop light or turn left or right no codes turn shuich on start and go help me pleases
You need to find out if there is no spark after it dies by removing a plug wire at the spark plug ,put a small screw driver into the spark plug boot and hold the metal part of the screw driver about a 1/4 inch from the valve cover or a metal bracket and have someone crank the engine over. Let me know the result and go from there.
Easy Moe likely to close to heater box or hose untap and move and move away from heat line, or someone turned alternator up which would cause that.
I have a 2000 dodge ram 1500 v8 5.2 sport and it from time to time shuts off while driving lights and radio still stay on waiting a minute or 2 sometimes instantly it will start right up. My key can be pulled out in any position even when the truck is running could it be the ignition switch?
I was told that could do it, when the new cylinder lock was installed it still had a problem.
The crankshaft and throttle position sensor have been the most common failures along with alarm systems.
@@JohnSadlersAutoRepair I don't think I have a alarm system but I do get a air bag light on my dashboard that comes on all the time.
@@johnnygallardo76 that shouldn't have anything to do with shutting off.
After you get this problem resolved I would get that fixed.
The clockspring goes bad on alot of those.
Just out of curiosity, what did you do to fix the fuel pressure loss after the key is turned off. That pressure should stay the same, correct? I've heard of that happening, and it was related to fuel pump failure, but the quick fix was to install a valve on the fuel return, as the valve in the pump was faulty.
Hi Mark: The customer didn't want to fix it, yes the fuel pump is worn out inside.
Oh, I was just curious. Thanks for the quick reply.
Good job.
You should present the video of this repair to the customer when you return the vehicle back to them.
+fred Flinstone Thanks Fred !! This customer refused to see the video. She said she was to busy to watch it! Then a month later I saw her in a coffee shop and she gave me a big hug and had witnessed an accident on the freeway where a stalled vehicle had been hit in the rear.
After seeing the accident she realized that could have been her!
Thanks for the upload
Your welcome!
Wife and I have had nothing but problems with electrical on both our Dodges. Chrysler problems am I right 😂 tons of speed amd cramkshaft sensors in our dakota. The doorlocks clicking and and engaging constantly. And now we're pretty sure uts the alarm system killing the vehicle like you explained in your part1 on this vehicle
Yep, they have some issues. When I removed all the alarm system helped alot! Let me know if you have a specific code or anything you need more information on.
I have a 99 dodge dakota v8 and it'll start up just fine in the morning but as soon as I put it in reverse, drive, or just give it any gas at all it'll immediately die and I have to wait quite some time before it'll start back up again. Sometimes the only time it'll start up is when I'm turning the key and giving it gas for what I feel like longer than what you should and I'm afraid it'll damage my starter as well. Once it gets past this issue in the morning it doesn't do it anymore throughout the day. Any idea what the issue could be? My dad changed the fuel pump about 10 months ago so I wouldn't guess that that's the problem.
+Jarred Palmier When the engine stalls you need to pull the coil wire out of the distributor cap and hold it 1/4 inch away from a ground and have someone crank the engine over and see if your getting any spark. You also want to have a fuel pressure gauge hooked up to the test port on the fuel rail so you can see what it is when the problem happens.
what are the names of the 3 different products you put into the gas tank? thanks
BG Products makes the kits, you can call Tim Morehouse at 619-890-3276 and he can explain the different kit they sell and get the best one for you
oh okay; thanks for that!
I believe I will hold on to my 67 El Camino and 69 Buick skylark and bypass all this computerized bull crap! WOW
Its true ...we work hard to fix your car ...and were dumbasses when it fails again....theres so many little things to examine ....
Yeah just give me a 1960 - 1972 car any day over these computerized junkmobiles!
i have an 89 dakota 4x4, dies often at idle, dies while driving. no CEL. no codes...previously had hall effect sensor code, turned out to be very old spark plugs (we replaced them and problem disappeared for about 2 months). now problem is back just with no codes , replaced coil, still stalling out. could it be pcm? im checking fuel pressure, has new fuel filter.
+Michael Gould Hi Michael: When it dies at idle and won't restart is the time to put a spark tester or remove a plug wire at the spark plug end and hold close to ground. Need to know if it's a spark or fuel problem. This will save lots of time and unnecessary parts replacement.Let me know what you find out.
Thank you, will do
everything you say is nothing but the true,,i am a mechanic and yes nobody undertand what we have to do,,,thanks for the video,,,good job sir
Thanks!
we would like to see one day live what your work day is like 👍
Good morning Jose! I will try to figure something out.
I have a 99 ram 1500. I have done everything to this truck.... would the bad plenum make the rpms go up ad down slightly? and sometimes start trying to choke and run rich?
+Richard Cowtails I don't think so on that model, there is an IAC idle air control that fits onto the throttle body that can do that.
turned out to be the upper and lower intake being shot... and warped. also have an aftermarket upstream o2 sensor not meshing with the truck. that was a bear to figure out.
I too have a dodge Dakota with the same problem. After so many miles there will be a backfire then it will be hard to start. Someone told me that it was a vapor lock. Another told me that it was the crankshaft position sensor. I think that its the fuel pump going bad. Had switched the ecc and same thing. These are frustrating and customers should have a better understanding what the mechanic or mechanically inclined have to go through with these cars/trucks.
I agree Raphael! If you think the fuel pump is going bad hook up a pressure gauge and watch it for awhile, also put it in gear and load on the engine. Then watch the pressure again, should be very steady and the correct psi. John
yes buy mine has no alarm
My 99 Dakota 318v8 90k shuts off on 80⁰+ days. After a few minutes, the longer the better, comes back on. When I try to restart, the outside temp gage reading jumps to 120⁰to 130⁰ and slowly returns to normal outside temp and restarts. Some days are better than others. Overall, it runs great and planning on keeping it. But the bad news is I live in the Mohave desert 🏜 😕.
I hope you are still doing videos. And can help me out. And If you are within 100miles of me I'll come by and let you fix it 😂 Lenny
Hi Lenny, I'm in San Diego County, 609 Felicita Avenue, Spring Valley, Ca 91977.
Great video
@@redtailhawk289 Thank you!!!
After replacing the throttle position sensor and the crankshaft position sensor, I watch this video. I found out that my ignition key could be pulled out in all position. I drove the vehicle without the key. The stalling got worse and the engine light came on showing a MAP sensor problem. I replace the ignition lock cylinder. Problem solve.
Great !!!
I am wanting to solve the problem but my battery died. I'll get another battery but I'm pretty sure it's my throttle sensor. But when you put the ingredients inside the tank, did you put both those cans in at the same time. (I realize there are instructions but when it came to the three prong switch...and, the part which I realize has an O-ring. And, I'll check the hose. I going out to take off cover...what's split, where did you find that? I know relay is good. No clicking.
Thank you-
There was a split vacuum hose to the air cleaner housing, the tps are an issue with these trucks also
I replaced both the throttle sensor. When I went to AutoZone the guys told me I was wrong and I replaced the crank sensor. I appreciate you getting back to me.
I changed the throttle sensor and the crank sensor. No engine lights are on. I'm in a dust bowl, literally. Should I flush the gas tank? Is there anything else under the hood to check? No engine lights on.
hey John like the video very informative but im at a wall with my 99 Durango when I'm at a stop light for a few minutes it would stall out, put it in park and about 50/50 times when this happens it would crank and now start or start up and go what would this be it did it once but now it is a pain I would go a couple of feet and it would die I don't have any codes when it does happen but a few times a check engine light would come on but the next time I start it will be off any help would be greatly appreciated I'm at a wall
+countvex These are very tough problems, you can hook up a scan tool and have someone drive and someone watch the tps, iac, crank sensor and see if the voltages jump around. Plus get me the LTFT at idle and 2,500 rpm.
+countvex My '00 Durango 4.7 does this too. It will idle at 725 rpms...then slowly drop to 600...then bounce between 500-600. It only does this when I have the bi-level or dash-vents turned on or set to the "OFF" Position. Any other setting turns on the electric fan which bumps the idle up to 800 rpms...and it will stay there. When in Stop-N-Go traffic the truck will stall when slowing down and the idle drops too low. However, put it in Neutral and she'll start right back up. I have replaced the TPS, IAC and Fuel Pump a few thousand miles ago Did a complete throttle-body remove/clean/replace. Spark plugs replaced. I get no codes on the display when cycling the ignition 3 times. The Alternator voltage shows 14V at Idle and a snit more when driving so I believe that is good (original part). I am leaning towards a small vacuum leak somewhere. All original hoses at 15 years and 170,000 miles. Any advice?
I would put a vacuum gauge on it and see where it is. 19 to 20 in. is normal at an idle. If it's jumping around some you have a vacuum hose collapsing when it warms up. The best way to know is if you can get me the LTFT at idle and at 2,500 rpm. Any generic scan tool should be able to do this.
Mine stalls but key doesn't come out.
Hey John nice work wish everyone spent time on issues like that ..I need help bad with my 1999 dodge ram 1500 5.9 liter not sure what step to take next..it randomly shuts down while driving looses power steering and so I just turn off the road and wait a few minutes and it starts again sometime it won't startup and I need a jump or towed..i changed idle air sensor ..pickup sensor. ..fuel pump...battery. .coil pack...plugs wires. ..distributer cap and rotor..checked fuses
Brian Sedlock Does the check engine light ever come on? Do you have a scan tool? What was the names of the other sensors you changed? Did this problem just start
one day or going on for awhile? When you get it jumped does it start right up? Let me know some more info and I will try and help you. You can call me after 5pm tomorrow at 619-464-6088. If i can't get the phone right away leave me a message and will call you back. John
Its been going on for at least three months..no Check engine light..I dont have a scan tool..map sensor and was another I changed it months back and the one next to it
Brian Sedlock ok, give me a call after 5 and will try and help.
john hello I just purchased a 02 dakota 3.9 sxt 5speed and the problem I'm having is sometimes it stumbles and hesitate then clears up in changed plugs wires fuel filter cap rotor and no check engine light
Hi Mike:
Need to find out the LTFT on a scan tool at idle and at 2,500 rpm. Look in the throttle plate and see if it's full of carbon build up.
" How come it's not done ?" yep get that all the time especially when someone else has played with things and got the adjustments and wiring all fouled up. And I understand about doing some jobs and just writing off extra time because of things like wiring being hacked into . I had one job where the car wouldn't shut off and no one else could figure it out. The customer would pull the battery lead off to stop it. I found a coin which which must have dropped from someones pocket under the fuses ...removed the coin and everything worked as it should. How do you charge someone for that ? ha ha
Amazing how all those parts are tied in together. It seems when one fails it's a chain reaction there after.
Yep, the customer left upset with me. 6 months later I saw her at a restaurant, she gave me a big hug and thanked me!
She watched a stalled car get rearended on the freeway and realized that could have been her.
@@JohnSadlersAutoRepair I hear you. Life does a better one sometimes.
Hi where can I find video number 1?
ua-cam.com/video/2577fBVTDaI/v-deo.html
Just had a problem with my son's 97 Dodge Dakota Sport 6 cyl. 2 wheel drive, last night and today, last night the electrical, lights inside and out blinked out and it stalled for a second but didn't die, did it twice, today I got to where I was going with no probs, after I killed it then went to start it I had nothing, no crank no electrical nothing, I popped the hood checked my connections on battery and took a quick look at the fuses under hood, couldn't find anything wrong, when I opened the driver door to get back in it and try it again, the chimes were going off so I knew it was back to ok so I closed the hood got back in it and sure enough it fired right up, just let my wife leave in it I hope she doesn't have any problems, any ideas of what is going on? I will continue to search you tube but if you have any suggestions I would be grateful to you.
Its our only transportation right now so any help would be appreciated.
Check fuses: #5, 5amp is for cluster illum & #14 is main fuse, make sure your wiggle the wire harness gently everywhere you can with the engine idling, be careful around the fan.
The fuses can look good and still be bad, change the number 5 and 14 fuses. also I would wiggle the wiring harness starting at the battery with the engine idling and see if the lights go off and if it wants to stall. I would take both battery cables off and clean the terminals even if they look good. next put a volt meter one lead on the negative side of the battery and the other end on the engine block, should have less than i volt. next go from the positive battery cable to the positive side of the alternator, should also be less than 1 volt. That's a voltage drop test, there is also an auto shut down relay and not sure if that will affect the lights.
Thanks so much, I will check it all tomorrow, my wife had no problems on her errand thank goodness, to me there is nothing worse than intermittent problems, will use all I have read today and hopefully track it down, thanks again.
Good job 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽