It really was created to be an ecosystem not stand alone. The land around the house was supposed to produce and that could be sold and put back into the house and then the tenants who would pay rent from the profits of their farming. But tenants left industrial revolution cale and houses that wouldn’t match up and families with no sense of money management it all comes crashing down
My sister got married at Bantry house in 2008 and we, the family stayed there. Egerton and Brigitte were our hosts. It was a very enjoyable stay. Egerton served the breakfasts. I had previously visited Bantry House in 2004 but the experience of staying there as a guest was amazing.
O.M.G. !!! Just when you've thought you had seen it all...😳 This is the most gigantic & totally awesome pile I've ever! Just looked up Bantry House, and ten years on now, it is 4 star hotel and still in the hands of the White family, with the lovely daughter & son in law running it! Bravo intrepids 🤗🍀👑
Thank you, was just wondering how it went. They looked a little deer in the headlights. I’m very happy they made a go of it, I truly hope they are running in the black.
Oh thank you for sharing, I was so angry at what Sofie and her husband were left to be over whelmed by. To hear they survived it, makes me wish I had the money to visit. 😊
I grew up in a big house in Ireland, not quite this size, maybe half and it was falling apart. My parents were not rich and ended up selling. You'd be suprised on how many people in big houses are barely able to afford it
Even small houses require a lot of money just to maintain. Like they showed in this episode, the paint/wallpaper comes off in a room, the outside of the house gets exposed to the elements, then there's this, there's that, and sometimes they just happen all at once and the owner has to pick and choose which of the tasks to do first, considering their time, money....
Hi Silver. I look at the headaches and costs involved in maintaining my small home in Phoenix (where it hardly ever rains but things rot from the blazing sun) and I can't even begin to imagine how much more it must take for a family to maintain a big house in my beloved but soggy Ireland. And, despite the histories of some of these fine old homes, they ARE fine old homes and such an important part of Ireland's history, family history, and Ireland's landscape. I know that money is always tight in government, but these buildings deserve government help. I know it would be nice to keep these places in the original family, but I wonder whether there is ever a possibility of partnering with hotel companies (long-term leasing as a hotel, payment for which would be made not so much in money but in refurbishment and maintenance). In other words, "You, Hilton, can use this place as a hotel for the next hundred years IF you refurbish, maintain it, and let us continue to live hear in the east wing." Ah, I can see it now: "Hilton Bantry House"!
@@sapphirecamui6447 yes I’m restoring and maintaining my husband’s family home, 3rd generation and his daughter will be 4th generation as she plans to take over one day. It’s a small modest cottage style house and it’s so much work. Headaches at times and definitely requires a lot of our money. Right now we are working with a contractor to replace the roof. Before they can do the roof we wanted to bury the electrical in the ground that was coming from the pole to the roof. When they buried the line the hit the water line and the irrigation. They came back and fixed it but in the process discovered the water shut off valve was broken and had been leaking for who knows how long. Today the water company is coming by to fix the valve but said the old cedar tree roots are in the way and need to use a backhoe to fix the situation. Well, right where they plan to dig is also where the internet cable is buried. You can see where my imagination is taking me with this 🤦🏼♀️. I might have call the internet company later on 😂All of this to get a new roof and already spent $1k!
Oh, sorry to hear it about the father, but when he didn't show at event - I understand it was serious. But so pleased to hear of the success! I'm glad they resurect the property - they seems like a nice people and I hope they'll keep it less stressful for them and more profitable.
Yes…. Fully agree. I watch a UA-cam channel of a young British couple that purchased a convent in the French countryside. Now granted, the family has money & that helps immensely but a nice channel doing weekly videos would be fun
I'd rather put any spare money towards homes for those on the streets, not for those with £40k tapestries hanging on the wall. My family originated from co Cork, there're plenty of people that need help there, far more than those two.
@@Fletch_18 But they didnt choose to be born into that family. You are missing the point of life experiences of human beings who are born into established former wealthy families. Hats off to this family who have been very humble and honest to share their experience with the rest of the world. I am interested to know what you would have done if you had inherited such a family background and home that comes from previous generations.
*TOO late for that.* The video is like from ten years ago, and by now it is just a 4-star hotel for many years. But what is good that the family completed their project successfully and still owns the place.
Making UA-cam videos is a lot of work and doesn't pay much unless you get sponsorships or patrons. If they're busy, I doubt they'll have the time to invest on something that will take time to maybe make money someday.
Oh dad is such a gentleman, and his patch worn collar😢, I feel really sorry for him as all his life he’s trying his utmost to maintain the family home, but still upholding his integrity. ❤
Back in imperial times you could underpay an army of people to look after the home and grounds. It looks like you have to see these country mansions now as a business: hotel, resort, boutique shopping plaza, events venue, farming, etc.. From other episodes of “Abode” I’ve seen, it looks like the elderly couples should’ve handed over the responsibility to their adult children sooner and perhaps had them educated in business and in the hospitality industry. Having them work part time in restaurants, hotels and/or holiday resort (destination honeymoon places) before taking over the family estate would make the transition less stressful. I’m happy with all the families who were able to make a go of it.
Finally! Manor house owners who did long term planning many decades ago with the development of garden tours and the BNB. Time for the next generation to build upon those efforts.
I'm a bit surprised that employing an "Events Manager" wasn't one of the top suggestions at least until they had got used to it. Having seen this was filmed 11 years ago I note that Sophie & Josh are still running the property so they must have done ok- Good for them. I have to say the meal by Richard Corrigan was my idea of heaven. I would have booked the accommodation as well because the location was beautiful..
To those disturbed by the contrasts between living levels and the desire to preserve the grandeur of past creative human activity: Despite the living difficulties and the cruelties of history, it is not the owners per se that those of us who love art and architecture wish to save: it's the preservation of publicly accessible magnificence so that art has a chance to penetrate even a humble and modest soul and live with the dignity beauty bestows without needing to be owned. In fact, ownership of beauty is probably a debilitating weight on whoever "possesses" it.
I understand that perspective. However, the art being saved is all meant to support the historical system, isn't it? Yes, it is art, but what is the art saying?
So happy to see that this lovely family were so successful it’s doing so well now. They asked for help and more importantly they listened and it turned it all around. Well done 😊🇮🇪☘️
Congratulations My daughter and I stayed in the gatehouse years ago and were shown around the main house which we thought was beautiful and needed saving. From Australia, thank you.
These properties could serve as excellent training locations for construction, engineering, and landscaping skills. You couldn't expect people to work for free, but I could see people being willing to work for lower wages than would normally be required to gain the skills and the ability to display the project as advertising.
A huge challenge for Sophie and her lovely family, possibly too much for one family. I am from Kilkenny town , where thankfully our built heritage was preserved by people of vision , and now forms the foundation for a successful tourist trade which contributes hugely to our local economy . I would hope that the people of Bantry lobby their politicians to assist with this massive restoration, which has the potential to be the jewel in the crown of Bantry and it’s people. Very disappointed to read some of the negative comments above.
Lovely family 🌹 Based on videos I have seen with this host and the previous host I shake my head at them. The thought of them thinking 50,000.00 pounds a year is a target, is terrible. B&B is a lot of work with little return. Weddings can bring in 50,000.00 pounds in a weekend.
@@davidlynch9049 in 1992 a family members wedding cost just a little over 40k. Today there are many Chateaus that only deal in weddings because of the high ticket price. 50k is not considered a high end wedding.
At the end of the video, it looked like Sophie didnt seem to convey the gratitude for the community as Simon was suggesting. The Age this manor house was built for would have had families living and working on the estate, and in this day and age when people need to come to a grand garden like this to fill their soul and bring beauty into their lives, well that should be shared. Its good for the house and for the people of the local area. So very kind and decent of all the people and businesses in the local area to assist them with the pop up restaurant! I hope they stay humble, share and that this great house brings joy to lots of people in the future, and that the gardens can be open to picnics for people for like a gold coin donation at certain times of the year.
It already stands out since it’s quite a ways out that’s how you share it by highlighting the beautiful drive to get there it’s away from the noise of city a natural environment with a delicious meal and a view on a garden terrace waiting to fill their senses. Your visitors will want what they can’t get everywhere else.
Such a stunning property and magical location - i do admire their spirit in trying to carry such a burden forward & so hope it pays for itself. Very sorry Egerton died shortly after this aired, but 10-yrs later in '23 they seem to have weathered some of the worst storms ever and the property is thriving & still in the family's hands. Would love to know what it's like staying there!
There was still enough value in the place for them to see it successful, but they just mismanaged it and now it's closed. The average number of generations before a fortune is squandered? 2, and these kids squandered it.
Hi, i am from Arizona, USA . I came across the video where you did a popup restaurant. I pray for you & your family become successfull with having events! Your home is extremely Beautiful!! I am glad you are going to keep your home open to the public & become successful.
If I ever go to Ireland. I will definitely go stay at the Bantry house. The fact that Sofie felt a duty to her parents and her predecessors really shows that she cares deeply. Also, her mother Brigitta is sweet. Is she Austrian descent?
She should've never left. You can't wait for a problem to become a disaster and then try to help. She should've taken over at least a decade a go judging by her parents' age.
There's a reason these manors were equipped with staff. You wouldn't even have time for a proper sleep if you wanted to keep the place up the right way on your own.
Maybe even build small cabins in the woods or something at some point. Bird watchers, outdoor enthusiasts, people who can afford a cabin but not the rooms and still have access to the grounds, house, etc. Perhaps some tennis courts, outdoor things like croquet or traditional Irish outdoor games, etc. that people coming for tea could pay a couple of € for, maybe flower gardens for fresh arrangements for customers to buy and supply for weddings, etc. in the community, and much more!
You can't build anything new in these heritage sites. You technically don't own it if it's historic property as to do any reno's or put anything new you have to apply for permits and deal with lots of red tape. A nightmare really. Just looks like a dream from the outside but modern times have ruined it.
OMG a beautiful estate. A restaurant is a great idea. The 100 stairs is an attraction, along with the sea (boating/sailing, fishing, yachts). Outdoor/nature trails (bikers). Sooooo much to offer. Another great idea is hosting a Jazz festival, fruit and vegetables market, wine tasting, weekend fireworks, gardening show, and arts/crafts. Financial backer (non traditional - without using a bank). Networking with other businesses tap into their resources🌹🌹🌹🌹
What a breathtaking Manor to have inherited & with Sofie's enthusiasm to step up, I wish them all the best in their future. Finally a family who was willing to listen & take on board Simon's ideas & make them come to fruition, beautiful family. Is it just me or does the theme song sound a bit "Harry Potter"??
This is a truly lovely place. I wish this couple the very best. Fact: Bigger is not always better -- simple living has its many many benefits. However, history matters,and I wish this fine home and property the greatest of success. ❤👑🌼
Households like this were also paid for by its surrounding lands to pay for it by it being "working" lands. Not necessarily run by the owners of the house but by the tenants renting it and giving the land owner a % they get. Something generations now seem to be missing.
What's a modern equivalent that brings revenue streams? You could build highrise apartment buildings or office parks, those bring in revenue. You could do different types of agriculture that's high value per acre.
@@hufficag offices are becoming obsolete, and no one wants an office in the middle of the country or next to their country house. And they said the estate originally had about 18k acres. They got sold to pay debts and inheritance tax. Agriculture will never produce enough wealth to cover 40% inheritance tax bill. If the put more infrastructure on the land, the estate would be valued higher and the tax would be higher. Generating income from what they have is most tax efficient. Therefore, most profitable.
Open it up to shop sellers, and a season-long farmers market every year. Have movie nights throughout the summer, let people use it as a stage to play music. All of this not only is advertising but gives a great incentive to stay.
What I admire about these places is the history and the belonging to a family for hundreds of years. Other than a few generations, I don't know my history as an United States citizen. I would love to know my relatives from hundreds of years ago. I am told I am of Irish, German, and Czech descent, but that is all I know.
You know they're definitely on the right track, it's really improving promotion and PR at this point to icrease interest. They should do what the chateau channels do and promote it on UA-cam and other places and find that crowd that is really interested in older places like this.
My family just stayed here during Holiday last week-I couldn’t forget the place. As an event planner, perusing the grounds and artifacts, I had an overwhelming vision for this property. I think the events fundraising for this property should take place OFF site to rectify debt and restoration of the property, so that the family heritage and ambiance is preserved. As a part of the human family, we search for comfort and heritage. This place hosts all the magic! Sell its purpose as a familial, historic gem of Ireland to the community and abroad; raise money through outside events and patronage from historic group interests and wealthy guests with enough “heart” to invest in its preservation.
@@davidlynch9049 I wouldn't discount or abandon any idea that could possibly raise money. Many can't or won't take time to go there but might donate. There should be a large fund raiser held in each region and manor house owners do a slideshow and tell about their house and projects and auction special weekend getaways.
I am intreeged. Filmed 11 years ago, uploaded to UA-cam only a few days ago? What's the story? How is the brave couple coping 11 years on? In this video there are strong feelings of uncertainty and anxiety. There are many videos about the house now, there is one video from 8 years ago that I recommend , where, after the recent death of the elderly noble gentleman head of the family that appears in this video , the wife and daughter are very sadly about to auction everything, there is a feeling of real stoic disappointment and tremendous restrained sadness in that video. More recent videos gladly show they are finally doing extreamly well, have managed to finally fulfil the 70 year and 3 generatin old dream of keeping the house, the furniture and artwork and the dream of succesfully running their amazing home with varied activities including B&B, tea room, concerts, walks and visits. Three cheers for all the members of this stoic, prodigious, historic, courageous family!
@@christophersteen1873 Trip advisor says it is temporarily closed, but I suspect they are mistaken. I have just chequed. Their web page is running, room booking are being taken, so it must be open.
Yes.. at end as he walked up the ‘100 steps’ the view was breathtaking. I would gladly pay 13 quid to spend a few hours walking around the estate knowing that my admittance fee is going to good use. Cheers to this family & I do hope the parents are alive and healthy all these years latter
If that was my estate and if money was no object, I would turn it into a spa resort hotel. Focused on relaxation. Those beautiful gardens! That incredible ocean view! I would put in an indoor pool, various sauna rooms, people could ride horses. Of course then you'd have to have an army of live in staff.
Awesome.... I would fall apart trying to save this house. All I would be thinking about is trying to learn how to fix everything and make youtube videos. But I really hope they make youtube videos showing people what it is like keeping these houses from fall apart.
It was meant to destroy the great estates. And it has. And just imagine the fun if a few inheritors die off one after the other. It is an enormously unjust tax.
That event was not easy and it looked stellar, especially with all the dificulties. Well done. And yes, having a profit of 1000 pounds while also gaining the exposure is super for a 1 day event. I hope his father feels better or if he died, to have a smooth travel into the afterlife
the math is 4 sittings a month $4k gross only $52K gross a year and that's pre-tax. Also I thought a lot of the equipment, tables, chairs, tablecloths, silverware, 4 glasses each was either donated or supplied at a discount. What would "Chef" charge to return? So who do I need to call to buy them out of debt?
Develop some real-estate; like holiday homes on the property; get rid of the 900.000 loan. Looks like a great place for weddings en corporate parties; business meatings.
The Irish Canadian says….turn all the space into independent business rentals. 417 transactions @$2400 in one year. Work it backwards - to 8 transactions per week.
Lovely home, lovely views, lovely effort, and still booming. I'd offer my free baking and cooking for a couple of weeks for room and board. I'm past related to the Whites from Maloney Bay Nova Scotia Canada.
I was so excited n happy for coming up with these great ideas ,just wonderful ideas I never thought of a restaurant it lights up,and the chef is outstanding .Very happy for the outcome !!!
What you need are 2 volunteers on 6 month rotation. They come, help with organizing and doing small tasks around the house and garden, marketing help etc. and they stay for free in one of the rooms. They get the experience of behind the scenes of running a BNB. Many would volunteer their time for this. The biggest problem with projects like these is owners don't know how to delegate.
@@mangoyachoot only Australia 2nd world. Having good English is important for your career here, it can increase your wage in several times. And a certain level of English (there's a certain psychological ceiling) can gained only through full immersion into the linguistic environment (say, any English speaking country, preferably no heavy local accents) for weeks. And English speaking countries are VERY expensive, 3 times more expensive than in my capital and 5 times more expensive than in the countryside, so most families can't afford it. Volunteering in England may be a life-changing experience for many. Would you work for 6 months for food if you gained an opportunity to double your wage for the rest of your life?
First thing he should have done was inspect the roof. Why not have part of the show be an inspector inspecting the roof? Museum is a great idea and can be opened back up when you bring more people there year round. Second set of stables should be tiny shops made up of potters, weavers, painters. Blacksmiths, a rare bookstore, with maps etc. But you must make facilities for those folks to live there. Also, surely part of the estate has small living quarters potential? There are small non-profit artists enclaves in the United States. They live and work their while doing there art.
In the first 5 minutes, you learn they moved back to Ireland from Australia into a separate dwelling??? They've got a house so big they can't look after it, and yet they move into a separate house. Why are people so weird?
@@cindydorado4718also the cost of separate accommodation and running expenses is surely a waste. Besides her parents would feel the support and joy of their grandchild. Lift the burden off them so father can relax and recover his health.
Wow this cottage looks incredible! So romantic and calming looking! I'd love to have my anniversary honeymoon here and to experience the English countryside for the first time. Thank you for all of your great videos. Finally found adventurers after my own heart and taste. Well done!😊
Hello wonderful family in charge of your family history. hire/apprenticeship gardeners who can help build up and sustain, and expand, those lovely plants . Grow up the garden and start selling heirloom flowers, vegetables etc. YOUR Fabulous garden is your best friend for growing and maintaining this lovely historical family treasure. Just a thought. Good luck and God bless. Ps. My family homestead of 5 generations was sold. I lived there, 5th generation in our family heritage home. After the US civil war, my great great grandfather moved to Texas from up north. He was originally from Ireland. I regret the decision to sell probably to this day...
There should be a easier way for families able to help preserve such important the history. Families shouldn't be forced to give up something so key to their family history
I find it beyond fascinating these old houses, and the generational families that run them are very encouraged and supported by the locals/government. However, the rest of society is told we take up too much room and eat way too much! _You will own Nothing and be happy_ "Rules for thee, but not for me"! Imagine that!!
This is such of beautiful land and house sitting on a heavenly spot of earth. For an income It would be cheaper to build another building on their acreage with modern construction products to produce something to be used for income other than using the structure buildings/home areas of the past. I cannot Imagine what the daily up keep for this entire property would cost. It’s always been said here in USA , the restaurant business is one of the most risky livings you could get into. Good luck to this family.
Life was so simple when these homes were built. Though it took loads of people to run the home, it didn’t carry major expenses/overhead like they do today with exuberant amounts of plumbing & electrical efforts. Once a wall went up 300 years ago, they didn’t have to worry about plaster breaking away. What bothers me is that though this young woman sacrificed her life to return home to make sure the family is able to keep the massive estate, when she restores the home and start to generate loads of an income, then her siblings will begin to feel entitled to portions though they offered no support.
Its imposible to maintain a house like this without alot of money.The estate needs to start producing stuff like candies, chocolates, biscuits, wines, candles/soaps, sauces(food processing), where products are sold all over the U.K, also part can be rented for a hotel.
These enormous houses were meant to be taken care of and contributed to by an army of people. It is an indescribable burden for just a couple people.
Very good point!
It really was created to be an ecosystem not stand alone. The land around the house was supposed to produce and that could be sold and put back into the house and then the tenants who would pay rent from the profits of their farming. But tenants left industrial revolution cale and houses that wouldn’t match up and families with no sense of money management it all comes crashing down
@@juksat well said. was the army of people well paid?
....and financed they were by plenty of land.
@@harridan. compare to the villagers? Yes but less freedom. But part of that was made possible because the nobility didn't pay tax.
My sister got married at Bantry house in 2008 and we, the family stayed there. Egerton and Brigitte were our hosts. It was a very enjoyable stay. Egerton served the breakfasts. I had previously visited Bantry House in 2004 but the experience of staying there as a guest was amazing.
O.M.G. !!! Just when you've thought you had seen it all...😳 This is the most gigantic & totally awesome pile I've ever!
Just looked up Bantry House, and ten years on now, it is 4 star hotel and still in the hands of the White family, with the lovely daughter & son in law running it! Bravo intrepids 🤗🍀👑
Thank you, that's saved me looking it up. I am very pleased to hear it. Good for them.
Yes, thank you for researching it for us all.
Thank you, was just wondering how it went. They looked a little deer in the headlights. I’m very happy they made a go of it, I truly hope they are running in the black.
Oh thank you for sharing, I was so angry at what Sofie and her husband were left to be over whelmed by. To hear they survived it, makes me wish I had the money to visit. 😊
Thanks for the update, nice to know it actually worked out ^^
I grew up in a big house in Ireland, not quite this size, maybe half and it was falling apart. My parents were not rich and ended up selling. You'd be suprised on how many people in big houses are barely able to afford it
Even small houses require a lot of money just to maintain. Like they showed in this episode, the paint/wallpaper comes off in a room, the outside of the house gets exposed to the elements, then there's this, there's that, and sometimes they just happen all at once and the owner has to pick and choose which of the tasks to do first, considering their time, money....
Hi Silver. I look at the headaches and costs involved in maintaining my small home in Phoenix (where it hardly ever rains but things rot from the blazing sun) and I can't even begin to imagine how much more it must take for a family to maintain a big house in my beloved but soggy Ireland. And, despite the histories of some of these fine old homes, they ARE fine old homes and such an important part of Ireland's history, family history, and Ireland's landscape. I know that money is always tight in government, but these buildings deserve government help.
I know it would be nice to keep these places in the original family, but I wonder whether there is ever a possibility of partnering with hotel companies (long-term leasing as a hotel, payment for which would be made not so much in money but in refurbishment and maintenance). In other words, "You, Hilton, can use this place as a hotel for the next hundred years IF you refurbish, maintain it, and let us continue to live hear in the east wing." Ah, I can see it now: "Hilton Bantry House"!
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@@sapphirecamui6447 yes I’m restoring and maintaining my husband’s family home, 3rd generation and his daughter will be 4th generation as she plans to take over one day. It’s a small modest cottage style house and it’s so much work. Headaches at times and definitely requires a lot of our money. Right now we are working with a contractor to replace the roof. Before they can do the roof we wanted to bury the electrical in the ground that was coming from the pole to the roof. When they buried the line the hit the water line and the irrigation. They came back and fixed it but in the process discovered the water shut off valve was broken and had been leaking for who knows how long. Today the water company is coming by to fix the valve but said the old cedar tree roots are in the way and need to use a backhoe to fix the situation. Well, right where they plan to dig is also where the internet cable is buried. You can see where my imagination is taking me with this 🤦🏼♀️. I might have call the internet company later on 😂All of this to get a new roof and already spent $1k!
It's why so many have opened their houses to tourists and started running event businesses out of their homes.
It's a 4 star hotel now (2023)and gets 5 star reviews describing it as incredible, beautiful and spotless with a library & landscaped gardens.
Do they still live there?
@@shemeher3380 yep
@@shemeher3380 is the full property is conveyed into hotel or just half if so does the family lives in the same property.
@@shemeher3380 Looks like Sophie is still there, the father passed, and it has events year round and rooms 7 months. Prices are quite reasonable
Oh, sorry to hear it about the father, but when he didn't show at event - I understand it was serious. But so pleased to hear of the success! I'm glad they resurect the property - they seems like a nice people and I hope they'll keep it less stressful for them and more profitable.
I love ❤ reading the comments IMMEDIATELY after its over
to see how the businesses are doing now .
. anyone here 2024??!
Sophie and Josh should really start a youtube channel, I'd subscribe! good way to earn some revenue for rehabilitation of this wonderful manor.
Yes…. Fully agree. I watch a UA-cam channel of a young British couple that purchased a convent in the French countryside. Now granted, the family has money & that helps immensely but a nice channel doing weekly videos would be fun
I'd rather put any spare money towards homes for those on the streets, not for those with £40k tapestries hanging on the wall. My family originated from co Cork, there're plenty of people that need help there, far more than those two.
@@Fletch_18 But they didnt choose to be born into that family. You are missing the point of life experiences of human beings who are born into established former wealthy families. Hats off to this family who have been very humble and honest to share their experience with the rest of the world. I am interested to know what you would have done if you had inherited such a family background and home that comes from previous generations.
*TOO late for that.*
The video is like from ten years ago, and by now it is just a 4-star hotel for many years. But what is good that the family completed their project successfully and still owns the place.
Making UA-cam videos is a lot of work and doesn't pay much unless you get sponsorships or patrons. If they're busy, I doubt they'll have the time to invest on something that will take time to maybe make money someday.
Oh dad is such a gentleman, and his patch worn collar😢, I feel really sorry for him as all his life he’s trying his utmost to maintain the family home, but still upholding his integrity. ❤
Back in imperial times you could underpay an army of people to look after the home and grounds. It looks like you have to see these country mansions now as a business: hotel, resort, boutique shopping plaza, events venue, farming, etc.. From other episodes of “Abode” I’ve seen, it looks like the elderly couples should’ve handed over the responsibility to their adult children sooner and perhaps had them educated in business and in the hospitality industry. Having them work part time in restaurants, hotels and/or holiday resort (destination honeymoon places) before taking over the family estate would make the transition less stressful. I’m happy with all the families who were able to make a go of it.
This family is really lovely. Sophie is a quiet heroine.
Finally! Manor house owners who did long term planning many decades ago with the development of garden tours and the BNB. Time for the next generation to build upon those efforts.
They can thank Brigitte the practical German mother for that.
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Lovely 😍 comment :)
Sophie and her family are so lovely. So refreshing to see, and her positive, can-do attitude is inspiring.
I'm a bit surprised that employing an "Events Manager" wasn't one of the top suggestions at least until they had got used to it. Having seen this was filmed 11 years ago I note that Sophie & Josh are still running the property so they must have done ok- Good for them. I have to say the meal by Richard Corrigan was my idea of heaven. I would have booked the accommodation as well because the location was beautiful..
you could even find an independant one, outsourcing cost & risk and ask for a premium per event ( independant of success)
Yeah actually was surprised this was 11 years ago, but they seeminly survived covid which was probably it's own challenge unto itself.
To those disturbed by the contrasts between living levels and the desire to preserve the grandeur of past creative human activity: Despite the living difficulties and the cruelties of history, it is not the owners per se that those of us who love art and architecture wish to save: it's the preservation of publicly accessible magnificence so that art has a chance to penetrate even a humble and modest soul and live with the dignity beauty bestows without needing to be owned. In fact, ownership of beauty is probably a debilitating weight on whoever "possesses" it.
I understand that perspective. However, the art being saved is all meant to support the historical system, isn't it? Yes, it is art, but what is the art saying?
The father is very nice, unlike some of the strange owners in other houses
So happy to see that this lovely family were so successful it’s doing so well now. They asked for help and more importantly they listened and it turned it all around. Well done 😊🇮🇪☘️
Me too!
Richard Corrigan - what a lovely kind person.
Congratulations My daughter and I stayed in the gatehouse years ago and were shown around the main house which we thought was beautiful and needed saving. From Australia, thank you.
If this place was mine I would be in heaven. So breathtakingly beautiful and interesting!!
In heaven and broke 😂
It's booked almost solid until April 2023.
Such an historic grand old manor by the sea. Who would not love to visit or have dinner there? Ireland is an amazing country.
These properties could serve as excellent training locations for construction, engineering, and landscaping skills. You couldn't expect people to work for free, but I could see people being willing to work for lower wages than would normally be required to gain the skills and the ability to display the project as advertising.
One of the most beautiful houses I’ve ever seen.
What a delightful couple. I will visit this coming summer.
A huge challenge for Sophie and her lovely family, possibly too much for one family. I am from Kilkenny town , where thankfully our built heritage was preserved by people of vision , and now forms the foundation for a successful tourist trade which contributes hugely to our local economy . I would hope that the people of Bantry lobby their politicians to assist with this massive restoration, which has the potential to be the jewel in the crown of Bantry and it’s people. Very disappointed to read some of the negative comments above.
You killed Kenny, you b*star’d!
Lovely family 🌹
Based on videos I have seen with this host and the previous host I shake my head at them. The thought of them thinking 50,000.00 pounds a year is a target, is terrible. B&B is a lot of work with little return. Weddings can bring in 50,000.00 pounds in a weekend.
True, it's a great place for doing wedding's but aswell just for take wedding pictures.
I doubt any wedding can bring in 50 thousand in a weekend.
@@davidlynch9049 in 1992 a family members wedding cost just a little over 40k. Today there are many Chateaus that only deal in weddings because of the high ticket price. 50k is not considered a high end wedding.
They couldn't charge that much unless the provided everything for the wedding and wedding party to stay for a weekend's
At the end of the video, it looked like Sophie didnt seem to convey the gratitude for the community as Simon was suggesting. The Age this manor house was built for would have had families living and working on the estate, and in this day and age when people need to come to a grand garden like this to fill their soul and bring beauty into their lives, well that should be shared. Its good for the house and for the people of the local area. So very kind and decent of all the people and businesses in the local area to assist them with the pop up restaurant! I hope they stay humble, share and that this great house brings joy to lots of people in the future, and that the gardens can be open to picnics for people for like a gold coin donation at certain times of the year.
It already stands out since it’s quite a ways out that’s how you share it by highlighting the beautiful drive to get there it’s away from the noise of city a natural environment with a delicious meal and a view on a garden terrace waiting to fill their senses. Your visitors will want what they can’t get everywhere else.
as of Nov 20 22 the family still owns the house. It appears, quite successfully too
They should start a UA-cam channel. That stuff is blowing up.
Now it’s a 4 star Hotel, that hosts weddings and events. They making good money now
This randomly showed up on my feed -- I clicked it and was hooked till the end. Great watch.
Such a stunning property and magical location - i do admire their spirit in trying to carry such a burden forward & so hope it pays for itself. Very sorry Egerton died shortly after this aired, but 10-yrs later in '23 they seem to have weathered some of the worst storms ever and the property is thriving & still in the family's hands. Would love to know what it's like staying there!
These great houses were once a mark of great privilege; today they are, for owners, a mark of being so trapped by upkeep of aging and decaying homes.
There was still enough value in the place for them to see it successful, but they just mismanaged it and now it's closed. The average number of generations before a fortune is squandered? 2, and these kids squandered it.
Hi, i am from Arizona, USA . I came across the video where you did a popup restaurant. I pray for you & your family become successfull with having events! Your home is extremely Beautiful!! I am glad you are going to keep your home open to the public & become successful.
I enjoyed this episode. The family are respectful of each other and Simon. Some other episodes were a hot mess.
If I ever go to Ireland. I will definitely go stay at the Bantry house. The fact that Sofie felt a duty to her parents and her predecessors really shows that she cares deeply. Also, her mother Brigitta is sweet. Is she Austrian descent?
Same here! Lovely all round.
She should've never left. You can't wait for a problem to become a disaster and then try to help. She should've taken over at least a decade a go judging by her parents' age.
At 14:28 I appreciated the opportunity to check out the artwork on the walls in the blue room. Thank you for that.
I stayed there for 3 nights last winter. It’s a 4 star hotel nowadays. Good on them.
Are they helping Ireland out with the 3rd world migrant housing problem?
@@aevans-jl9ym Why should they help? The migrants need to go home.
@@aevans-jl9ym
They are NOT 🚫responsible for illegal immigrants⁉️
@@cindydorado4718 No,just cashing in on it
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How is that? 🤔
There's a reason these manors were equipped with staff. You wouldn't even have time for a proper sleep if you wanted to keep the place up the right way on your own.
Maybe even build small cabins in the woods or something at some point. Bird watchers, outdoor enthusiasts, people who can afford a cabin but not the rooms and still have access to the grounds, house, etc. Perhaps some tennis courts, outdoor things like croquet or traditional Irish outdoor games, etc. that people coming for tea could pay a couple of € for, maybe flower gardens for fresh arrangements for customers to buy and supply for weddings, etc. in the community, and much more!
You can't build anything new in these heritage sites. You technically don't own it if it's historic property as to do any reno's or put anything new you have to apply for permits and deal with lots of red tape. A nightmare really. Just looks like a dream from the outside but modern times have ruined it.
@@nadias6435 I definitely see both sides but it's still unfortunate. Thanks
If money is an issue building cabin’s is not an option!
@@puddincup9879 "...at some point..."
@@puddincup9879 couldn't they strike a deal with local builder and would shared the profit etc
OMG a beautiful estate. A restaurant is a great idea. The 100 stairs is an attraction, along with the sea (boating/sailing, fishing, yachts). Outdoor/nature trails (bikers). Sooooo much to offer. Another great idea is hosting a Jazz festival, fruit and vegetables market, wine tasting, weekend fireworks, gardening show, and arts/crafts. Financial backer (non traditional - without using a bank). Networking with other businesses tap into their resources🌹🌹🌹🌹
What a breathtaking Manor to have inherited & with Sofie's enthusiasm to step up, I wish them all the best in their future. Finally a family who was willing to listen & take on board Simon's ideas & make them come to fruition, beautiful family. Is it just me or does the theme song sound a bit "Harry Potter"??
Yes, definitely a Harry Potter influence!
Sophie's enthusiasm? She seemed pretty lackadaisical and unsure of herself to me. She could definitely do with more confidence.
This is a truly lovely place. I wish this couple the very best. Fact: Bigger is not always better -- simple living has its many many benefits. However, history matters,and I wish this fine home and property the greatest of success. ❤👑🌼
Households like this were also paid for by its surrounding lands to pay for it by it being "working" lands. Not necessarily run by the owners of the house but by the tenants renting it and giving the land owner a % they get.
Something generations now seem to be missing.
That’s true !
What's a modern equivalent that brings revenue streams? You could build highrise apartment buildings or office parks, those bring in revenue. You could do different types of agriculture that's high value per acre.
Usually some ancestor sold them off for short term gain in order to be able to keep up appearances instead of cutting back on their lifestyle.
They said they sold most of their land to pay off debt. This was probably done over generations, so it is what it is.
@@hufficag offices are becoming obsolete, and no one wants an office in the middle of the country or next to their country house. And they said the estate originally had about 18k acres. They got sold to pay debts and inheritance tax. Agriculture will never produce enough wealth to cover 40% inheritance tax bill. If the put more infrastructure on the land, the estate would be valued higher and the tax would be higher. Generating income from what they have is most tax efficient. Therefore, most profitable.
Open it up to shop sellers, and a season-long farmers market every year. Have movie nights throughout the summer, let people use it as a stage to play music. All of this not only is advertising but gives a great incentive to stay.
What they need are around two dozen servants and a dozen gardeners. They can live in the servants quarters in the basement. ;)
What I admire about these places is the history and the belonging to a family for hundreds of years. Other than a few generations, I don't know my history as an United States citizen. I would love to know my relatives from hundreds of years ago. I am told I am of Irish, German, and Czech descent, but that is all I know.
Do a dna test. Like 23andme.
Do your DNA and genealogy. I have learned so much about my family doing this.
We're rooting for you Julie and the BH family!!! When i get to travel halfway around the world to Ireland, i'll most definitely pay a visit!!!
good for them for managing to turn around and save that damn beautiful building
You know they're definitely on the right track, it's really improving promotion and PR at this point to icrease interest. They should do what the chateau channels do and promote it on UA-cam and other places and find that crowd that is really interested in older places like this.
Praise Simon.
My family just stayed here during Holiday last week-I couldn’t forget the place. As an event planner, perusing the grounds and artifacts, I had an overwhelming vision for this property. I think the events fundraising for this property should take place OFF site to rectify debt and restoration of the property, so that the family heritage and ambiance is preserved. As a part of the human family, we search for comfort and heritage. This place hosts all the magic! Sell its purpose as a familial, historic gem of Ireland to the community and abroad; raise money through outside events and patronage from historic group interests and wealthy guests with enough “heart” to invest in its preservation.
Huh?
Why on earth would you hold off site events when the whole point is to showcase the house.?? What kind of an event planner are you??
@@davidlynch9049 I wouldn't discount or abandon any idea that could possibly raise money. Many can't or won't take time to go there but might donate. There should be a large fund raiser held in each region and manor house owners do a slideshow and tell about their house and projects and auction special weekend getaways.
what a cool venue to have a wedding.
I am intreeged. Filmed 11 years ago, uploaded to UA-cam only a few days ago? What's the story? How is the brave couple coping 11 years on? In this video there are strong feelings of uncertainty and anxiety. There are many videos about the house now, there is one video from 8 years ago that I recommend , where, after the recent death of the elderly noble gentleman head of the family that appears in this video , the wife and daughter are very sadly about to auction everything, there is a feeling of real stoic disappointment and tremendous restrained sadness in that video. More recent videos gladly show they are finally doing extreamly well, have managed to finally fulfil the 70 year and 3 generatin old dream of keeping the house, the furniture and artwork and the dream of succesfully running their amazing home with varied activities including B&B, tea room, concerts, walks and visits. Three cheers for all the members of this stoic, prodigious, historic, courageous family!
A comment above says it’s a four star hotel and doing well.
They totally flubbed it and now it's closed.
@@christophersteen1873 Trip advisor says it is temporarily closed, but I suspect they are mistaken. I have just chequed. Their web page is running, room booking are being taken, so it must be open.
There's this new-fangled thing called Google that will give you the answers to your questions for free
Absolutely beautiful place. What a view! The grounds and furnishings are beautiful. I wish them all the best.
Yes.. at end as he walked up the ‘100 steps’ the view was breathtaking. I would gladly pay 13 quid to spend a few hours walking around the estate knowing that my admittance fee is going to good use. Cheers to this family & I do hope the parents are alive and healthy all these years latter
If that was my estate and if money was no object, I would turn it into a spa resort hotel. Focused on relaxation.
Those beautiful gardens!
That incredible ocean view!
I would put in an indoor pool, various sauna rooms, people could ride horses.
Of course then you'd have to have an army of live in staff.
What a stunning home. I would love to help preserve such a glorious piece of history.
Awesome.... I would fall apart trying to save this house. All I would be thinking about is trying to learn how to fix everything and make youtube videos. But I really hope they make youtube videos showing people what it is like keeping these houses from fall apart.
Gday Ireland
I am heading to Ireland next year, I will make an effort to visit this absolute Devine house in beautiful Cork.
The inheritance tax is insane. Like punishment for one’s parents dieing! How can ANY of these families maintain?
Thats why a trust should own the house. That way it doesnt matter who dies.
A family’s inherited wealth is taxed until they no longer have wealth to tax. A benefit to the trust but sad ending to a family and it’s heritage.
Greedy government strikes again. Take, take, take...just for living and just for dying. God bless~
It was meant to destroy the great estates. And it has. And just imagine the fun if a few inheritors die off one after the other. It is an enormously unjust tax.
@@MMC-jp1gl i am severely disabled and living in poverty. NO SYMPATHY.
That event was not easy and it looked stellar, especially with all the dificulties. Well done. And yes, having a profit of 1000 pounds while also gaining the exposure is super for a 1 day event. I hope his father feels better or if he died, to have a smooth travel into the afterlife
the math is 4 sittings a month $4k gross only $52K gross a year and that's pre-tax. Also I thought a lot of the equipment, tables, chairs, tablecloths, silverware, 4 glasses each was either donated or supplied at a discount. What would "Chef" charge to return? So who do I need to call to buy them out of debt?
Food and celebration is always an excellent way to go. Good plan.
I’m glad they’re doing better now. Absolutely beautiful manor and the view is priceless. There is so much you can do with this property.
Develop some real-estate; like holiday homes on the property; get rid of the 900.000 loan. Looks like a great place for weddings en corporate parties; business meatings.
The Irish Canadian says….turn all the space into independent business rentals. 417 transactions @$2400 in one year. Work it backwards - to 8 transactions per week.
The pop-up dinner looked wonderful! I would love to visit Bantry House!
They should start a UA-cam channel like a lot of Chateau owners in France do. There is money to be made doing that. 😊
Besides income the videos would be educational & inspirational/entertaining...
visited the house in 1979 when ion a walking tour/ bus tour of Ireland as a student --- its a great house
I Love seeing these Wonderful Castles and Mansions being restored for Prosperity…Thank You, for Sharing ❤️👏👏👏
Lovely home, lovely views, lovely effort, and still booming. I'd offer my free baking and cooking for a couple of weeks for room and board. I'm past related to the Whites from Maloney Bay Nova Scotia Canada.
What a beautiful setting
This is the sort of place I'd love to visit if I ever make to Ireland. Maybe some day!
I was so excited n happy for coming up with these great ideas ,just wonderful ideas I never thought of a restaurant it lights up,and the chef is outstanding .Very happy for the outcome !!!
What you need are 2 volunteers on 6 month rotation. They come, help with organizing and doing small tasks around the house and garden, marketing help etc. and they stay for free in one of the rooms. They get the experience of behind the scenes of running a BNB. Many would volunteer their time for this. The biggest problem with projects like these is owners don't know how to delegate.
In fact, painting and other things they can do themselves
Volunteers, hmm, sounds a lot like unpaid labour or even worse. Give them a room and a meal and they'll be happy for the experience...
I like your innovative idea. Perhaps travellers from Australia might grab such an opportunity especially if free accommodation is thrown in.
@@mangoyachoot only Australia
2nd world.
Having good English is important for your career here, it can increase your wage in several times.
And a certain level of English (there's a certain psychological ceiling) can gained only through full immersion into the linguistic environment (say, any English speaking country, preferably no heavy local accents) for weeks.
And English speaking countries are VERY expensive, 3 times more expensive than in my capital and 5 times more expensive than in the countryside, so most families can't afford it.
Volunteering in England may be a life-changing experience for many. Would you work for 6 months for food if you gained an opportunity to double your wage for the rest of your life?
I wish at the beginning of the show ,they would show the property on a map of the country.
First thing he should have done was inspect the roof.
Why not have part of the show be an inspector inspecting the roof?
Museum is a great idea and can be opened back up when you bring more people there year round.
Second set of stables should be tiny shops made up of potters, weavers, painters. Blacksmiths, a rare bookstore, with maps
etc.
But you must make facilities for those folks to live there. Also, surely part of the estate has small living quarters potential?
There are small non-profit artists enclaves in the United States. They live and work their while doing there art.
In the first 5 minutes, you learn they moved back to Ireland from Australia into a separate dwelling??? They've got a house so big they can't look after it, and yet they move into a separate house. Why are people so weird?
Maybe because of all of the rooms most likely or not livable and the ones that they have remodeled are the ones that they rent out
The main buildings are 300 years old just imagine the smell.
I read it from Irish Times "A successful succession at Bantry House"
@@cindydorado4718also the cost of separate accommodation and running expenses is surely a waste. Besides her parents would feel the support and joy of their grandchild. Lift the burden off them so father can relax and recover his health.
Wow this cottage looks incredible! So romantic and calming looking! I'd love to have my anniversary honeymoon here and to experience the English countryside for the first time. Thank you for all of your great videos. Finally found adventurers after my own heart and taste. Well done!😊
I know this video is around 10 years ago so I have no idea what it’s like now, but the stables would be amazing little summer lets or artist studio’s!
For almost all of these shows, you can look the house up on the internet and find a website and a Wikipedia page.
@@mapleleaf0 thank you! I did actually. After I had already posted this comment 😳
Hello wonderful family in charge of your family history.
hire/apprenticeship gardeners who can help build up and sustain, and expand, those lovely plants . Grow up the garden and start selling heirloom flowers, vegetables etc. YOUR Fabulous garden is your best friend for growing and maintaining this lovely historical family treasure. Just a thought. Good luck and God bless. Ps. My family homestead of 5 generations was sold. I lived there, 5th generation in our family heritage home. After the US civil war, my great great grandfather moved to Texas from up north. He was originally from Ireland. I regret the decision to sell probably to this day...
There should be a easier way for families able to help preserve such important the history. Families shouldn't be forced to give up something so key to their family history
The importance of the house is the opulence.
opulence is the beauty of artist & fine craftsmenship.
I want to know how many gardeners it takes and how much it costs to keep all those beautiful gardens trimmed and maintained…yikes!
I find it beyond fascinating these old houses, and the generational families that run them are very encouraged and supported by the locals/government. However, the rest of society is told
we take up too much room and eat way too much!
_You will own Nothing and be happy_
"Rules for thee, but not for me"!
Imagine that!!
Absolutely worth the $100 seat.
This is such of beautiful land and house sitting on a heavenly spot of earth. For an income It would be cheaper to build another building on their acreage with modern construction products to produce something to be used for income other than using the structure buildings/home areas of the past. I cannot Imagine what the daily up keep for this entire property would cost. It’s always been said here in USA , the restaurant business is one of the most risky livings you could get into. Good luck to this family.
Literally a dream home so beautiful
Life was so simple when these homes were built. Though it took loads of people to run the home, it didn’t carry major expenses/overhead like they do today with exuberant amounts of plumbing & electrical efforts. Once a wall went up 300 years ago, they didn’t have to worry about plaster breaking away. What bothers me is that though this young woman sacrificed her life to return home to make sure the family is able to keep the massive estate, when she restores the home and start to generate loads of an income, then her siblings will begin to feel entitled to portions though they offered no support.
Make no assumptions
A place loke this always took many people & piles of money to support.
Servants were used!
@@merryfergie “Though it took loads of people to run….”
Built on the backs of the Irish whose land was stolen.
@@juliaolivia398 All in all a thousand acres is not a lot. And how do you know that land was stolen?
Wedding venue. Winery, wine tasting.
10 years later and the house is ongoing.
Its imposible to maintain a house like this without alot of money.The estate needs to start producing stuff like candies, chocolates, biscuits, wines, candles/soaps, sauces(food processing), where products are sold all over the U.K, also part can be rented for a hotel.
I love these. If only I was printing money
That is the most beautiful house I’ve ever seen.
I suggest selling some items that wouldnt be very noticeable such as vases, the plates in the little cabinet on the wall and other small items
that garden
Perhaps have television and/or movie productions at Bantry House.
They also could use that area for weddings as well. And it may pay more for one day with them booking rooms as well.
Beautiful house, beautiful people deserve to do well💯
I think the place should be rented for film making.