3 scientists school flat Earthers on the evidence | Neil deGrasse Tyson, Bill Nye, Michelle Thaller
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- 3 scientists school flat Earthers on the evidence
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Despite centuries of evidence proving otherwise, there is an alarming number of people around the world who genuinely believe that the earth is flat. Bill Nye The Science Guy, NASA astronomer Michelle Thaller, and Neil deGrasse Tyson strongly disagree.
From simple experiments like standing at a seashore or looking through a telescope at other planets, to reading about navigation or viewing photos of Earth taken from space, the scientists share several ways that flat Earthers can see the truth for themselves.
Tyson explains why this trend doesn't qualify as a scientific debate and why it is actually dangerous for people to believe and, even worse, pass on these objectively false ideas.
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NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON:
Neil deGrasse Tyson was born and raised in New York City where he was educated in the public schools clear through his graduation from the Bronx High School of Science. Tyson went on to earn his BA in Physics from Harvard and his PhD in Astrophysics from Columbia. He is the first occupant of the Frederick P. Rose Directorship of the Hayden Planetarium. His professional research interests are broad, but include star formation, exploding stars, dwarf galaxies, and the structure of our Milky Way. Tyson obtains his data from the Hubble Space Telescope, as well as from telescopes in California, New Mexico, Arizona, and in the Andes Mountains of Chile.Tyson is the recipient of nine honorary doctorates and the NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal. His contributions to the public appreciation of the cosmos have been recognized by the International Astronomical Union in their official naming of asteroid "13123 Tyson".
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BILL NYE:
Bill Nye, scientist, engineer, comedian, author, and inventor, is a man with a mission: to help foster a scientifically literate society, to help people everywhere understand and appreciate the science that makes our world work. Making science entertaining and accessible is something Bill has been doing most of his life.
In Seattle Nye began to combine his love of science with his flair for comedy, when he won the Steve Martin look-alike contest and developed dual careers as an engineer by day and a stand-up comic by night. Nye then quit his day engineering day job and made the transition to a night job as a comedy writer and performer on Seattle’s home-grown ensemble comedy show “Almost Live.” This is where “Bill Nye the Science Guy®” was born. The show appeared before Saturday Night Live and later on Comedy Central, originating at KING-TV, Seattle’s NBC affiliate.
Nye is the host of three currently-running television series. “The 100 Greatest Discoveries” airs on the Science Channel. “The Eyes of Nye” airs on PBS stations across the country.
Bill’s latest project is hosting a show on Planet Green called “Stuff Happens.” It’s about environmentally responsible choices that consumers can make as they go about their day and their shopping. Also, you’ll see Nye in his good-natured rivalry with his neighbor Ed Begley. They compete to see who can save the most energy and produce the smallest carbon footprint. Nye has 4,000 watts of solar power and a solar-boosted hot water system. There’s also the low water use garden and underground watering system. It’s fun for him; he’s an engineer with an energy conservation hobby.
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MICHELLE THALLER:
Dr. Michelle Thaller is an astronomer who studies binary stars and the life cycles of stars. She is Assistant Director of Science Communication at NASA. She went to college at Harvard University, completed a post-doctoral research fellowship at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) in Pasadena, Calif. then started working for the Jet Propulsion Laboratory's (JPL) Spitzer Space Telescope. After a hugely successful mission, she moved on to NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center (GSFC), in the Washington D.C. area. In her off-hours often puts on about 30lbs of Elizabethan garb and performs intricate Renaissance dances. For more information, visit solarsystem.nasa.gov/people/1...
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TRANSCRIPT:
BILL NYE: Is the earth flat or round? It's round, okay. Now, let's see. How do we go about proving that?
MICHELLE THALLER: That's a hard thing for me to even start talking about because there are so many proofs that the earth is round it's difficult...
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Ya know, flat earthers always has answers. They have a mental disorder. To question things is really good. But this is being quite mentally crazy.
This was a terrible video that didn't even mention the two main indisputable evidences of a spherical Earth that flatearthers can easily verify for themselves.
1) The Moon flipping upside down when we travel from one hemisphere to the other.
2) Two counter-rotating celestial poles.
No flatearther has EVER been able to explain those two simple things, and for such prominent so called 'science educators' to not even mention them in this vid means that they have badly failed in their primary aim.
And for the woman to say that she 'didn't even know where to start' was just downright unprofessional.
No wonder there are so many flerfers in the US if these are the best 'educators' over there.
And their condescending attitude will only alienate flerfers even more.
Gee why don't we just entertain all sorts of idiots? How about you make a video on witches! and then make one about the illuminati! smfh...
Produce new videos these are all old videos edited together more new videos!
I debated a flat earther once. He stormed offf saying he’d walk to the edge of the Earth to prove me wrong. He’ll come round - eventually.
That’s way better than most flat earth burns so respect…….it’s still not spherical
@@donpettyandthespacefakers1798 then please enlighten us as to how you can prove this. Besides oh...... You can't.
@@donpettyandthespacefakers1798 Yes it is. Why does the sun set? Why can't you see africa from the east coast of America with good enough binoculars? Why do things fall?
The sun just goes away you can bring back the sun into focus when it allegedly goes over the curved horizontal line with nice optics you cannot see Africa from the coast because the atmosphere is dense things fall because they’re heavier than air ,helium balloons, smoke, birds just defy all rules of the theory of gravity or is it because they’re lighter than air
@@donpettyandthespacefakers1798 you do realize birds fly and generate lift with their wings right? Also once the sun is completely below the horizon the only thing you would be able to see it with us x-ray vision. So flat earthers all think they are Superman??? Please please provide video evidence of any of this. Not just some guy saying it. Thats all I ever hear and see are people saying it. I can say jupiter is made of cheese and while you can't prove me wrong, it doesn't mean I am right.
The only thing flat Earthers have to fear is sphere itself.
This comment is underrated
^^^I was just about to write that! Lol i actually laughed out loud when i read it!
Yusuf Best
It’s because their matrix is threatened.
@Yusuf Best
Your opinions don't affect anything and yes some of us do like having uniquely worded insults because you guys are a source of entertainment in the same way that a zoo exhibit is
Unoriginal.
I know a flat earther. I told him there wasnt a lot of people that think the earth is flat, but their numbers are growing daily. Now they can be found all over the globe. He was like,"That's because people are catching on to the truth." He strutted off, totally missing the joke.😂
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The Earth is round, just not a sphere. 😅
Ha Ha Ha - look in a mirror - ie the glass is flat - but you know that the face is actually three dimensional... dont be a Willy Wombat.. @@ALofiLife
@@ALofiLife the earth is spherically shaped. It is not a disk. It is very large. It is so massive that it has its own gravitational pull. Gravity is not a theory. It is a force that pulls everything towards its center. That is why dropped objects, like car keys and microphones for example, fall 'down'. Children get this, but grown adults are having trouble with this concept. So much so, that they are denying everything that they have been taught and would rather believe a crackpot idea spouted by a tattoo artist instead of every scientist who ever lived.
No wonder Bill Nye looks disappointed. He spent a good portion of his life educating the future. This is what the future has produced; willful stupidity .
Sounds a little like the first Flat Earth Conference. Where they proudly announced that people attended from all around the globe 🤣. Really!
As a science teacher this and the other science conspiracies always come up. It is always a good opportunity to reinforce evidence based inquiry, to develop kids into informed adults.
As a science teacher, you can then conclude that we live in a perfect mathematical construct. One that is too perfect. A construct that is an intelligence if you will. They sky is the only thing that moves. We do not. We are stationary. (The sky is just a light show) it gives us an illusion of a universe. To conclude, we live in a highly sophisticated construct that is not real. Yet, our central nervous system is jacked in to make this feel real. Nasa, and any other organization or “celebrity” is working with what you ppl call Aliens. They have been here way before humans were. They are not from space like they want you to think. They live underneath you. They are who control the elites. They have signed the contract to have extravagant lifestyles and doing so, has left them stuck here. This world, isn’t what you think it is. All you have to do, is research. And follow the money trails and the last names who run everything. We are slaves and you do not even know it. Lead to believe false information because “they” run the schools, huge corporations etc.
What about the hollow moon ? NASA heard it reverberate for 3 hours would that happen if it was solid ? I know it has less mass but its a topic not talked about very much .
So are NASA photoshop images reinforced evidence or just forced programming of lies to keep taking tax payers money?
@@akachira777 neither. That’s just lies you fell for because you’re gullible and stupid.
@@akachira777 still waiting for that explanation
I like feet......
I edited the so now the comments make no sense.Enjoy
Or perhaps atmodisk. Unless it's another of their premises that the Earth is not only flat, it's also infinitely thin. In which case it should be atmocircle. But that would put them on shaky ground. Ground that is really thin....
underrated comment
Hey that's really great, never thought of that. Very clever.
I already coined it We call it the atmosPLANE like airPLANE not airSPHERE, get a clue.
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I used to ask myself "why bother arguing with these idiots?". Then I realized "shit, these people get to vote, someone has to be responsible for teaching them something"
It's not just that. Not only do they vote, they also spread all kinds of misinformation. We could have beaten COVID just like we crushed Polio back when people trusted vaccines and were eager to get them. Now people listen to whatever garbage gets poured into their ears on the Internet, so instead of going to their doctor and taking their medicine, they were going to Tractor Supply and jacking themselves full of a horse-sized dose of Ivermectin. This isn't a funny little harmless fad belief. Flerfers lied, people died.
You can't reason someone out of a position that they were not reasoned into.
It is very hard to reason with a flat earth believer. You have to actually sit down with them and from a relationship of teacher/student in order for them to slowly realize the evidence we have. Simply debating them or telling them to do research isnt enough since they purposely do not look into any form of evidence that contradicts their views
@@godisbollocks Oh I know. The ones who aren't doing it for money or attention, the ones who truly believe it? I believe they may be suffering from a schizotypal disorder. "Magical thinking" is one of the symptoms.
Well you took a hell of a lot of shit to stack on your shoulder willingly.
If the earth was actually flat, flat earthers would say it was a globe.
🤔🤣 that is an excellent point lol
Sums it up perfectly.
Correct. They are just people who love being on the opposite side to have some sense of importance.
No - Not if the Bible 'told' them it was flat!!! It doesn't of course, but their church leaders convince them it does - or 'should'. Flat earth belief is a deliberate rejection of the Science that they fear is trying to disprove God and they are the true believers who have to fight against everything non-'biblical' to retain the 'Truth' of God and their bible.
The world is currently fighting a war, one promoted by and practiced/fought by certain sections of christian cults including many 'evangelicals' who are convinced the world is being controlled by Satan and their duty as christians is to counter what they see as evil by any and all means possible. Trump is playing these people to do his bidding and pretending to be on their side. The cults are happy to be played as they think Trump is 'one of them'.
People of science have to fight back and show this quackery for what it truly is.
The flat earth movement is figurative
My biggest issue. I live in the UK where we have about 1 hour of twilight sunrise/sunset all year. As I started travelling to places of a more southern latitude, I noticed that hour I was used to became shorter. When the sun sets on the equator it just goes black immediately. Widest part of the planet so stands to reason. The flat earth model must be extremely sophisticated to take that into account!
Yep. But of course the flat Earth model doesn't have to be sophisticated at all. That's the advantage of simply invoking magic (in the form of "perspective", "vanishing point", etc) and not bothering with geometry.
Even day and night make no sense on the flat earth model. They show this model where the sun (supposedly very near inside their imaginary dome) is on one side of their flat earth and the moon on the other (which of course is ridiculous when the moon is clearly visible during the day sometimes, but not always, yet strangely that never happens to the sun, despite being many magnitudes brighter), so what is going on with sunsets when only half the sun is visible on the horizon? And why does the sun only illuminate half the earth? All logic says that nighttime wouldn’t exist on a flat earth. The problem with the flat earth model (to the extent one exists) is that it has more holes than a colander.
The Sun & Moon are localized light that rotate around Earth. Not that complicated. A spinning water ball moving through an infinite space galaxy is far more illogical than a FE model.
@@ALofiLifeyou don’t seriously believe that, surely?
@@LeoDragon34 Yes, yes I do.
1990: teaching kids basic science
2020: teaching adults basic science
Not suprised
Except you are assuming that teaching is simply having the student studying the right answers to pass the test under a controlled learning environment.
“The mark of an educated mind is the ability to entertain a thought without having to adhere to its belief.”
All that means is that those 90s kids who are now adults in 2020 didn't pay attention in science class.
This isn’t science. It’s scientism. Nothing these morons say can be proven😂
I think you just described yourself
"The Flat Earth Society has members around the globe."
Dang 1.4K likes thanks 🙏
Lol
nice
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There are really dumb people around the globe.
Clever...
I was a flat Earther for five years…then I turned six and went to first grade.
I thought the earth was spinning until I quit drinking. 😄
He had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
Bill Nye is barely containing his rage at the sheer stupidity of flat earthers.
I'm certainly not a flat earther but Bill Nye the "science guy" is hardly the person to listen to.
@@arreola891 Bill Nye is hurting the cause with his arguments.... lol Why can't you see Spain? Thousands of miles away? (Because atmosphere is dense, water condensation, particles in suspenstion.... add all of that for thousands of miles your eyes won't get to there.) . The paper work it takes to send people in space is what prohibit making fake pictures!? dafck is this guy talking about. Flat earth is ridiculous but Bill Nye is giving them ammo by serving insanely easy to rebut arguements.
N. D. Tyson didn't. I n one video, he yelled at them and used a cussword. It's got to be frustrating trying to educate people who are hell-bent on staying willfully stupid.
@@arreola891 What does it matter what type of degree someone has, (iirc he has an engineering degree)? If someone calls themselves the science guy are they claiming they have a BSC or whatever? no they aren't.
@@dannygjk Your comment doesn't change my opinion. It's okay to have opposing views.
To quote a saying a friend has on her desk: " I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."
That is actually a brilliant quote! I gotta use that next time. :)
Like Obama would say right," I'm gonna explain it to you and two possibilities, either I didn't explain myself good enough or you're a bigot ".roflmao
Professor Dave says something very similar: "If you can't understand that, it's not my problem."
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink
@@stephenoetgen8752 You can drive a horse to water but a pencil must be led (lead). Old boomer joke. Best delivered orally.
Bill Nye sounds so unbelievably disappointed that this even needs to be a video
I've gotten so used to how many people are stupid that I just assume everyone is stupid unless they can prove otherwise
He's not alone
@@xINVISIGOTHx you are not alone. I will also include myself in that statement and tend to spend most of my day trying to not be stupid, where most people tend to put no effort in that daily task.
Bill Nye is a guy who thinks there's infinite genders. We're all unbelievably disappointed in him too. It's hard for me to take him seriously on one hand when on the other he's a complete loon.
@@xINVISIGOTHx n the sad n laughable thing is that they really are convinced that theyre not idiots for thinking that way
It's not about the evidence. It's about feeling 'special'.
"If your friends are really serious" I don't think people realize how much credit he's giving us here. He acknowledges probably a good % of the people watching this video probably are pretty knowledgeable on the knowledge that the earth is actually round.
Knowledgeable? The Earth may be round, not a BALL/SPHERE.
@@ALofiLife
Yeh, cuz it's a little "WULHH"
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I'm a studying to be an airline pilot, if the earth were flat it would make my studying A LOT easier.
Yep, Navigation and NON-Euclidian math suck.
But it proves the globe.
lol damn true
Indeed.
That's a great career choice. Good luck to you.
@@tonywilliams1493 cheers mate
I’m perplexed. This is an actual debate these days? That alone is amazing.
They are either trolling us, or too stupid to talk.
It's a Christianity based theory because they didn't know how do describe the unknown. EDITED HERE because Christians are chomping my rump...ffs. Yes it is a Theory, one that the Flat Earth Cult, has based upon the words of, and the devout followers of Christianity. It preys upon SOME of the followers that are weak-minded enough, to fall for their Cult's theory. It is not CREATED BY Christianity, backed by Christianity. But, Christianity most CERTAINLY is used by the Flat Earth Cult to feed their fire with the words in the Bible. Every Christian that reads this, comes at me, and I have to explain. It doesn't matter where the Flat Earthers are on this planet, because the internet is Global, every country has people with access to the internet, that have become victims of the Cult. The entire Cult most certainly USES the words in the Bible, to fortify their beliefs. The Cult, preys upon the faithful, and lures them in by quoting scripture. They take the Bible as true fact word-for-word, and we all know the Bible is just stuffed to the gills with hyperbole, metaphors, and parables. So let's not aim the daggers of blame and insinuation at me here, you have the facts. Don't make assumptions and attack me, because you don't have enough knowledge on this topic. I've been doing battle with these empty brained flat earthers for over a decade. Get a clue, before you make uneducated replies to me. I am not to blame.
@@b.scottfarthingsworth some believe the earth is flat of religion, because they yake their scriptures literally
@@bubbagrump Well bubba, doesn't that fact alone show how unintelligent someone is, to believe a 2000 year old book, word for word, when we have 10 people from 4 different nations, up in the International Space Station, TODAY THIS VERY MINUTE? They, believe the words, and have faith. But faith and words alone cannot create physical reality. Ever.
@@b.scottfarthingsworth It is not a Christianity based theory whatsoever. Who engraved this ludicrous information into your mind?
The fact that I met a flat earth theorists yesterday and I've never been so disappointed 😞
One simple thing that I have observed that no one points out is that if you look at a "sunrise" and before the sunrise. You will see that before the "sunrise" the waves in the ocean do not have shadows. The waves are only visible after the sun has show itself about halfway. Another thing you can see is that the birds will be lit from underneath before the sun "rises". And so are the airplanes and the moon
“Arguing with a Flat-Earther is like playing chess with a pigeon. Once he knows he’s about to lose, he knocks all the pieces over, shits on the board, and flies off and tells all his friends how he won the game.”
~ Author Unknown
Why even argue about something that doesn't matter in day-to-day life? Believing the Earth is flat has nothing to do with anything for the vast majority of people. If you tell me that person A believes the Earth is flat and person B knows it's round that doesn't tell me anything about which person is a morally better person. And that's what matters.
@@junglemoose2164 I mean yeah you’re right. But I just find it baffling that people can believe that the earth is flat. And tbh I find the fact that flat earthers try spreading misinformation and distrust in science that works so well. I think that’s what annoys me the most, distrust in proven science.
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@@junglemoose2164 Because a demonstrable, objective, factual truth matters. The universe operates on such principles. When dangerous fools deny demonstrable, objective, factual truth, everything -- everything -- becomes a matter of opinion and nothing more. Without factually-based concensus everything stops making sense. All is confusion. Confusion is no basis for coherent and stable society.
@@funkuro But Jungle Moose isn't right. That two individuals hold opposing opinions on subjective issues is one thing, denying objective fact is different and deliberately propogating a factual untruth is ethically reprehensible -- so it does say something about moral rectitude.
"I've been to London. Other people have been to London. It's a real place."
This is where humanity's at right now. 😅
Sounds like a Kamala Harris speech.
There are only 2 genders, and paedo’s are butchering and grooming kids openly daily. That’s where humanity is right now.
We are at the stage where men can have periods 🤪🤪
This is where America is right now. No other country are that stupid. All other countries believe in Science.
no,not realy
I have a friend who believes the earth was flat. I was shocked he did. When talking about it he said "i think its more about not trusting the governement" to which I said "ok, fair, but why believe something so idiotic and easily disproven it distracts from something that does have some merit?"
Yet = the rest of the world says exactly the same thing......... So the _"I don't trust the government - or even NASA for that matter"_ argument represents the worst of facile logic. Even if you completely discount what your own government asserts = other governments - some who may not be friendly to one's own - happen to agree. This when the world rarely agrees upon anything.
Your friend of course is not merely wrong = they reflect stereotypical paranoia I'm afraid. Irrational incredulity based upon abstract argumentation so as to justify a nonsensical belief. 🤷
If the Earth were flat, during a lunar eclipse there would be a thick line across the moon. Not a full shadow.
I was once in love with a girl who couldn’t understand that earth was smaller than the sun because the sun was just a small disk in the sky. I don’t think anyone fell out of love faster than I did.
I urge you to watch "Small Or Far Away? | Father Ted" if you haven't seen it. Just search it here on UA-cam. =)
Lol my ex-wife thought the sun and the moon were the same thing. Which I'm sure she got from her mom because when she was 57...yep 57, when she noticed the sun and the moon in the sky at the same time and didn't know how it was possible...and that was after her daughter told me what she thought. No lie, I lost 20 IQ points that day.
@@arsenic1987 I’ll check it out
@@jarosbodytko6462 it's just a 1 min clip. Hehe. Forgot to mention that.
Wow. I can only imagine you thinking about your genes. Your future children.
It’s scary that they had to make this video in 2020 AND it has dislikes 😒. I cannot say I am surprised with the level of absolute stupidity that is occurring on this ROUND planet
I disliked it because feeding trolls is a great way to see them more often. B.o.B. and other attention seeking flat earthers thank Neil, Nye and clueless folks like yourself.
@@HopDavid So your solution is to leave them indoctrinating the young and gullible unchecked? What do you propose then?
Hello, Brad :D I'm so happy that you're not a flat earther
The rise in the number of flat earthers is not the result of recent discoveries of hidden primitive tribes in the jungle, it is the result of intelligent people who are not satisfied with being spoon fed what is called "settled science", and want to discover the truth for themselves, and are willing to do the work to study the problem for themselves, and this number is continually increasing.
hmm, i was wondering why it got likes? because they were converted? lol
I'm still waiting for them to debunk "if ur in the middle of the ocean why can u not see land in any direction"
Again. From the middle. Not from just lightly near by. U can get to a point where all u see is water and ocean. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Flat Earthers claim the horizon is the limit of human sight and magnification lets you see further. I'm not kidding. They make no attempt to explain why gaining altitude improves eye sight.
@@warmachineuk I'm jus waiting for one of them to go "we been trolling u this whole time"
Aerial perspective.
Great video! And it does blow my mind how some people actually believe the Earth is flat. The shape of planets really correlates with how our day and night cycles occur, the season and weather, the atmosphere, gravity and our laws of physics. And a lot of that intertwines with how capable the Earth's environment is at producing all kinds of life. So I'd never call anyone dumb for a core belief they have... I just don't see how anyone firmly believes that the Earth is flat.
Thanks for the vid, later.
Arguing with a smart person is hard, but arguing with a dumb person is impossible
The idea for me is to expose them, not convince.
You cannot convince someone who ignores logical arguments they cannot refute. They are people who are too scared, immature and narcissistic to allow reason to guide their beliefs.
everyone is smart in their own fields of expertise, whatever that may be. Flat earther took their globe education and furthered it into critical thinking and applied many questionable and impossible aspects that was never questioned. This is how you become smarter, wiser and if the other person has not furthered their education in this subject that it can't be argued.
@@flatearthmembers2312 And yet not one flat earther can give supported arguments and explanations for their belief.
Give us your absolute concrete best point of physics for FE and I'll demonstrate that you guys just run when challenged to open discussion and real thinking, because you KNOW you don't have real knowledge. Watch:
@@flatearthmembers2312 "impossible aspects that was never questioned" It's "were". But you cannot show me a single one.
Will it be "Well - It's not worth arguing" or just dead silence as you run as fast as you can?
I studied physics for a decade and also covered geometry and did 3D design with computers. "Expertise" enough for you?
@@flatearthmembers2312 Ah. The old flat earther hero narrative. Pleading that you're smart, though you can't seem to win any arguments about flat earth using testable evidence: so the belief must still be true. Thus the novels about yourselves and your amazing skill start appearing.
The fact this even needs a video is terrifying.
Because you've been conditioned to believe that anything opposed to what you've been taught in school is terrifying. That's the actual terrifying thing.
@@nicolausthothmes2325 actually I’ve been conditioned to not buy into nut-bag conspiracy theories that don’t have any evidence to support them.
@@nicolausthothmes2325 just look at the sharp line of the horizon. I found that was enough to understand the earth's spherical shape, at 6.
@@nicolausthothmes2325 And you've been conditioned to believe absurd conspiracy BS when there is more proof now then there ever has been in history. You should have stayed in school!
@@goodday512 This is not about conspiracy. It is about thinking and asking questions. When you tell someone that he can't ask questions just because it's something that becomes normal in our life, it constitutes a real problem, and it is against freedom of thinking and analysis and against intelligence. Same goes when someone forbid himself or doesn't accept to ask or to respond to those questions. This never leads us to truth, but only to delusion.
To have people who genuinely think the earth is flat in the 21st century is an indictment on our education system
When i encounter a flat earther, I realize immediately that they'd be unable to understand basic science and rather than stoop to their level. I just tell them they are wrong and move on. No debate.
That is probably best as far as one can not reason with irrationality. One therefore exposes it for what it is for others to recognize and learn from. Leave the debunking in detail to those versed in the science as videos like this do - unless you are versed enough to also expose via a cogent argument why the Flerfs are wrong.
Just as noted do not expect them to have a _"road to Damascus"_ moment as to ascribe to "Flat Earth" is to be deeeeep down the rabbit hole of evangelical fundamentalism. We as it happen have a term for such = _"cults."_ Enjoy your day.
i just tell them sarcastically and yeah the moon is made out of cheese aswell
I like flat earther for two reason.
1.I am relieved that there are people who are more stupid than me.
2.Because of them , we can watch scientists teaching us some science and stuffs about earth .
That's the true conspiracy, they are using fools to make us learn things
That level of stupidity Must be the work of an enemy stand user.
@@PresidentValentine A fellow JoJo fan,I see.
Funny enough we are probably all significantly smarter than you and we literally empirically falsified the claimed radius of the globe earth. Catch up.
@@Witsit Flat Earthers are so stupid they cannot even tell that the company they keep are stupid! Not a single flat Earther knows how any of our technology works nor builds or maintains it. But you are a stone-age flatty, so even that wont give you a clue.
A wise ancient philosopher once said: "You can't argue with crazy."
- dad
With these people with no base evidence based on scientific experiments. Sphere has to move, right, ok. Don't even look at another possibility side. Your whole world will go wrong. What damn magnets and how can the moon and the sun move otherwise, right. Also god exists coz the bible proved it
@@veramanifests in the same way my comic proves iron man.
@@inkwellflood8276 the same way NASA proves us the smoothly round sphere Earth
@@spacexsays3227 Did that comment actually make any sense when you typed it?
It’s round. Not every opinion has value. This shouldn’t really be a discussion other than interest and idiocy exists. Thank god these people are where we (in the vast majority) are at.
The answer is found in the fact that EVERY photo, EVERY video, no matter WHO takes or records it...scientist or not, regular Joe Schmo with a weather balloon or not...ALL show the same thing. The earth with the horizon in equal distances in all directions. No matter where on earth it is showing. A flat earth would HAVE to show the edge from SOME point on earth. For the horizon to be equal distances in all directions EVERY time no matter what or where...can only happen on a globe.
A flat earth would have no clearly defined horizon, it would always disappear into haze. The clear horizon line demonstrates the curve.
@@grahvis I see what you're saying. That would apply, I'd think, to the "land beyond the ice wall" myth. Logically, no matter how high up we'd get, we never see the blackness of space but only the never ending surface of earth. On most FE maps, parts of Australia are within a couple hundred, maybe 1000 miles of the ice wall and thus edge of earth. So, SOMEONE should be able to float a camera on a weather balloon up 20-25 miles (which is regularly done anyway), and there is no question theyd be high enough to see a distance of 1000 miles + from where they live in every direction. Thus the wall and everything beyond it (should there be anything) would absolutely be visible. They can't do it though. Because we know what would happen.
This is what happens when you say 'there are no stupid questions'
lmfao this needs to be at the top of the comment section
I tell all of my students that there are stupid questions and stupid answers. Asking how something works because you don’t know, because you’ve never been taught is not stupid.
@@seankrake4776 but surely almost every adult passed the basic education system knowing the shape of the earth?
@@rishikagoswami5891 I don’t disagree. Asking for a proof the earth is round when so many examples exist is a stupid question. Asking questions about specific phenomena because you don’t understand them is great. I teach about electricity. Asking how mutual inductance between two coils works is great. Asking why iron man doesn’t get shocked by the arc reactor in his chest, a stupid question. Arguing the earth is flat, dumbest of them all
@@seankrake4776 hey! Why doesn't Ironman get shocked by the Arc reactor in his chest anyway!?
It's mind boggling that some people need to have this explained to them.
Actually FEarther know both models, it is the Globe believers who do not know even their own globe model.... And there in lies the stupidity, Globers depend on Nasa for explinations- which are Lies
@@dallasquinley8493 flatearther much? Thise aren't lies, how many rockets have u seen gone to space? Millions, what they say us true, its not that hard to understand that what nasa says is true, tell me something nasa said that was a lie and i will help ur brain understand, like how big stars are, are those lies? No, why is the moon round? Why is the sun round? Why is everything round in space? Bc of gravity, planets moons stars, they are all round bc of gravity, how is nasa lying?
@@dallasquinley8493 globe believers which are not beliefs, they are people who actually know the earth is round, not some idiots who think only the sun is tiny and above earth
@@dallasquinley8493 we dont depend on nasa nasa itself is just globe "believers" who have been to space and seen the earth from outer space, u think those are lies bc u dont understand basic science, go study kid if ur gonna be stupid enough to say gravity has no power on earth then ur hopeless, why cant we float in earth? Gravity, why is the moon qnd all the planets in our solar system and different solar systems round? Why is the sun round? Why is the earthround? Gravity, otherwise we would'nt even be able to live, the earth would'nt even exist ur brainless
@@dallasquinley8493 wtf lmao you can literally use every day physics to observe that the earth is round. Go away with your braindead conspiracy shit.
I had an argument with someone about this before. Science doesn't really help. Whatever sources you give, they claim they're fake. Whatever evidence you provide, they provide some really quite imaginative answers with zero evidence, but that never bothers them.
It's a hopeless exercise, the best you can do is present your arguments so others can see it and not be swayed by the idiot.
That is so correct. I bet if a hard core flat earther would get in ISS for a week in orbit he would be: "They had very impressive VR equipment, but they could not fool me., because I know for a fack that Earth is flat."
The Vikings were the first to use Latitudinal Navigation using Viking Sun Stones to locate the Sun even in cloudy weather. Note that the Viking Settlements in Greenland and Iceland all correspond to Settlements in Norway or Islands in the North Sea latitudinally.
I love how “not having it” Bill Nye is. You can tell he’s sick of everyone’s shit.
We are also sick of the shit from Bill Nye the fake Science Guy. Yes, the Earth is a Globe, but Bill Nye is flat!
@@Ken_James_SV whats the issue with bill nye, since apparently everyone has an issue with everyone.
@@Ken_James_SV yet he has more science degrees than most of us ever will have, just trying to teach science in a fun way to kids is such a lost of credentials
@@Xymage what is it with your generation trying to invalidate people you either dont like (for whatever flimsy made up reason) or disagree with?
@@Xymage how about try proving me wrong, I know basic biology and everything I've seen is pretty spot on
Oh and Einstein was a sellout as well but you don't see anyone invalidating him
The fact that we need videos like these in 2020 CE is really sad.
2020 ad not not 2020 commen era
Ad means "Anno Domini" and basically means "in the year of God". Saying CE is just more religion neutral.
Anno domini is better the lord is alive god is real
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Traditionally, it’s “AD 2020,” not the reverse, so be sure you get right the thing you’re advocating for. Based on historical evidence Jesus wasn’t born in AD 1 but rather sometime between 6 and 4 BC. This discrepancy is due to the fact that the _Anno Domini_ system wasn’t devised until over five centuries after Jesus’ time. Since there was no universal way of reckoning the passage of calendrical time back then, Dionysius Exiguus got his timeline mixed up a bit.
We use the CE/BCE system to be gracious to those who do not share our faith.
TPD or just say 2020. Much simpler
America has got to be the only country in the world where adults still discuss this issue... which is UTTERLY LAUGHABLE in the rest of the civilized world...
It's the country making the most noise about the issue AND making it political as always but I would not be surprised if there were Flat Earthers elsewhere in the world who are legit just uneducated
@@javierlatorre480 Yep. There are lots in Brazil, for instance.
@@therealzilch Well... Brazilians always tended to emulate the Americans in everything - that's probably why...
@@mancebo7 Hmm, not sure there's a connection here. Other countries with fair numbers of flat Earthers (based on chatting with thousands over the years): the Phillipines, England, Romania, Malaysia, Germany. Not many here in Austria, and I've never heard of any from Japan or North Korea.
@@therealzilch Really? I'm gobsmacked. I'm Portuguese and so far I haven't met (or heard of) a single person in my country that won´t start laughing out loud at the sheer thought of the Earth being flat...
To flat earthers. Why did ships have crow's nest for observation. If earth was flat there would be no need for them.
I live on 18th floor in Northern Europe. My favourite thing to do is use my telescope to enjoy the view of the Pyramids of Giza from my balcony. Luckily there is no major cities with high rising buildings in the way :)
The fact that these three amazingly intelligent scientists had to spend their time doing this is a travesty.
You mean these actors that play scientists.
@@TargusCrimbus Said the “human with a brain” imposter.
What kind of scientist is Nye? Google says he a mechanical engineer and a science communicator and television actor/presenter.
That’s the state American education is in…..having to reprove things that were proved millennia ago!
@@AspenTruth no he is right though, the only one of them who is actually a scientist is Neil.
The most disturbing part of this video is that they’re actually addressing adults who vote and not 8 year old children.
They could let monkeys and 4 year olds vote and it would not make a difference. All the choices presented to us to vote on are bought, paid for, and not in the public's best interest.
Exactly. People retarded asf bro. This shit crazy. People really out here arguing plain logic. I've had people argue if grass is green. Smfh. 😒😒☠️
I can't express this enough. I can't understand how this is even remotely possible than ADULTS believe the Earth is flat. "Forces from the dark side" is literally how that feels 😂
@@jadewolf6411 You know, after seeing all the facts and doing the experiments myself including some amazing tecnical engineering calculations regarding train tracks and bridges
And debunking the entire globe mathematics that insists that the earths radius is calculated at 8 inches squared per mile times the height in feet of the observer height was in fact easy...
I find it astonishing that people just believe what they are told in school blindly without question in an attempt by the Rockerfella foundation that paid for all our books and atlases in every single classroom with a label under them stating that it is not for educational purposes
That you would question your fellow God loving and Fearing Brothers and sisters that have come back to our Lord and Saviour because of this revelation of truth setting us all free
Wr cannot have it both ways
We can only serve 1 creator
Big Bang BS that is also Darwinism where everything magically created itself from nothing
Or that we are all one, by intelligent design and given life by our creator as per Genesis
Do yourself a favour...
Realise that Flat earth is pictured in Bibles, Ancient works and civilisations that were far more advanced than we are now and give them credit for not being as stupid as we are not to know where we live, who we are or how we got here...
Because that my friend is the most niave a man or woman could ever be...
We do not live on a smarties tube?
Where all we can see on a coast line from left to right is a dead flat and level horizontal horizon level where we allegedly go over this tube they say is some kind of sphere...
When you get a high powered camera, or telescope we can just zoom back in again when there is supposed to be 100's and even 1000's of feet in some observations that is missing of alledged curvature between you and the object or ship you are looking at the hull of again...
Deep down, I do not believe you are stupid or dumb and are quite capable of proving that their globe is a flat out lie yourself like I did...
You will be angry of course, nobody likes being lied to their entire lives, but your anger will be where it deserve to be, at those that lied to you, and like me, they will never ever be able to lie and get away with it again...
Good luck, and remember, the easiest experiment to do and disprove the globe is by defeating the globe models earth curvature.
But you know in your heart, we do not move, water at rest always lays level, the stars rotate us and never deform after 1000's of years of allegedly going lunatic speeds in their imaginary universe and God is watching from above on his throne upon a sapphire stone 👍🏻🍻
Keeping our departed loved ones close to his side ✝️
@@jadewolf6411 . I hope and pray you will see it too one day SOON
The only thing flat-earthers have to fear is sphere itself. 😂😂
lol
The Flat Earth Society has members all around the planet.
@@anubusx Yep. Flat earthers are a global problem! 😂
Just a quick bit of info. The first person to estimate the diameter of the earth, did so about 2,300 years ago. It is simply beyond belief for me, that all of this time later and with all of the additional knowledge and science we have, that we would be fighting this ridiculous issue again. How could people be this stupid?
Every population has its low end of the bell curve. No one debates them, just pre-debunks their dumb arguments before other morons hear it and fall down the conspiracy rabbit hole.
Stupid people believe scammers.
If the Earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now.
Facts.
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True. Cats are evil.
My favorite explanation I've ever heard!
The earth's edge is in the sky where the earth's atmosphere meets space. Not on ground. This is why round earthers are stupid 😂
My daughter, 5 years old at the time, was astonished when I told her that there are people that think the earth is flat. I still remember her response, “you look out and you see the sun is a sphere, the moon is a sphere, of course the earth must also be a sphere.” I’ve never thought of it that way.
Your daughter is 5 times smarter than any flat earthier
Actually, the sun and the moon don't appear to be spheres for sure, but they do appear to be round, for sure.
Of course, 3D spheres always appear to be perfectly round when viewed from any angle, but so are 2D disks when viewed exactly face (not edge) on.
Don't get me wrong, I certainly do believe the sun, the earth and the moon are spheres. But an argument that a Flat Earther could make (all other evidence aside) is that the moon could be a disk that is tidally locked to the earth - so that it always shows its perfectly round flat face when we look at it from earth.
@@bryan3dguitar Not disagreeing with you, but just so you know - All spheres are 3D.
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I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for 200 dollars, Alex.
A lunar eclipse shows a round shadow on the moon
Indeed, and that's one of the observations that convinced the ancient Greeks that the Earth must be a globe.
List of things flat earth cant prove, as of today
1) Flat earth
2) show they are capable of critical thinking
3) show that they can learn something that isnt nonsense
The pain in their voices for even having to address this 'issue' is palpable.
You cannot argue with flat-earthers they are right! You also can't argue with round earthers because they are right as well! The 2nd dimension exists within the 3rd. Therefore it is both. Talking about this subject keeps people from seeing what is truly important!
Especially Bill Nye. He seemed like he wanted nothing to do with such ridiculous nonsense
Agreed. And the more people address it the more legitimate it seems. Ignore them and let their ideas die on the vine.
@@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler Actually, your statement is quite erroneous, simply because there is terrain with altitude, and depth below the sea level. A two-dimensional Earth would be like a map, and nothing more. In other words, even a hypothetical (nonexistent) flat Earth would exist in 3 dimensions.
@@MickRissling we can't ignore these fools they end up getting elected and become policymakers.
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that” - George Carlin
George should have said the median, not the average. Nothing guarantees that half a population will be above or below the mean of some characteristic.
@@SpottedSharks I think George didn't mean mean. He forgot to average the average.
@@SpottedSharks true. I think there are a lesser number of really smart people that bring the average higher than it probably really is.
If you ever have a job dealing with the general public, in a few years you'll know how dumb a lot of them are. You'll be astonished, actually
@LCHC1 Of course I believe in heliocentrism. That's because the Sun is the Badass Goddess. Yum.
@LCHC1 Because it's 100% true, proven beyond any doubt. Anyone who doesn't believe that is frankly, an idiot.
Almost everything I know about physics I have learned because of the flat earth community.
Not because they taught me anything, they are uneducated.
I’ve learned from the responses from people who are educated.
I appreciate everyone who makes educational videos in response to flat earth ideas and claims.
Seeing as the earth is comprised of 70% uncarbonated water, it's flat...
Anyone else reading the comments looking for a flat earther rambling??
Looks like you got a reply from one...
Cesar, here's a formula to prove we do live on a globe:
n = r/9x67y (f)
This comes from my friend who's never wrong, so it must be true! 🤦♂️
Edit: For anyone who can't see this comment for what it is, obviously I made up the "formula". Or, just maybe, I accidentally proved the earth is in fact a globe! 🤯 Nope, it's just gibberish...
@César Omar Raudales It is really sad to see someone forefeit all education received in years and fall for a hoax.
@César Omar Raudales None of your crap has the slightest impact on the problem. If your flat Earth exists, show it to us. Where's your evidence for your Big Ice Wall and your "dome", for starters? And when you fail to provide any, how about you explain where the shadow on the moon comes from during a lunar eclipse? Bit inconvenient for you that your flat Earth Sun and Moon are both close to Earth and never disappear over a horizon, wouldn't you say? No, of course you wouldn't - evidence and logic escape you morons entirely.
@César Omar Raudales What holds in your fantasy flat oceans?
@@phildavenport4150 I wish I could like more than once
Can we all commend the amount of sheer PATIENCE these guys had while explaining this
They are paid by deep state
Do you actually believe carbon dioxide, at 0.04% of the atmosphere (near enough to zero really, dangerously) necessary for photosynthesis, is actually causing global warming? These idiots talk about it but know it isn't true. I have an IQ of 130...The climate is a chaotic system, therefore unpredictable...from High school math...so when they talk about predicting the climate with climate models, know they are BS'ing you! I never fell for that lie but I did the spherical earth. Look at an 'air map', its where flight paths come from, it is the Gleeson flat earth map, which just happens to be on the UN flag...which pushes climate BS too. Hiding the truth in plain sight (in a gun sight of all things, look at the flag!). Symbolism and BS'ing the sheep is their favourite pastimes it looks.
That's because they knew someone was listening to them. No so with flefrs.
I didn't get any new information from this video, It's the same old geographic studies, some legislative lectures, and personal views of a debate that might be true.
@@PeterOdion-fe9tnYou don’t need need to perform scientific experiments to prove the Earth is not flat. To assume it’s flat is just ignorant.
I agree that it is not okay to say the earth is flat and it is a strange denial without much concrete foundation..it makes more sense to be a sphere than flat
The first time I heard about this flat earth movement I thought it was a prank and I thought they were doing irony. When I realized they were serious, I couldn’t laugh about it anymore.
I seriously thought it was just a whole group trolling the rest of society and I believe it might still be. There's no way they can truly believe the nonsense.
@@ThorGodofThunder420 I’ve met and talked to 3 flat earthers in my life… yes. They exist, I stopped each one dead in their tracks and left them alone. There’s definitely trolls too, but the sad reality is that flat earthers exist.
the fact that this is still a huge topic is the reason why we may never become an interplanetary civilization
That's a savage comment lmao. I love it.
That is so f***ing true that it scares me.
Not just this topic but racism and other major things as well thats keeping us back form ever advancing into the future like war, corruption and poverty that just focusing on money and resources to spend and waste lives on and instead of like technology or a more healthier environment and to live longer and better, and if we did have planetary civilization and with all of this happening we could cause even a greater threat nit just another world war but more like interglacial Wars and fighting for freedom with other different species out there because of our own choices we make
@@maplehazlekittymeow Yeaaahhh, I guess we will never be an interplanetary civilization. And it is better that way
@@toxicboi3768 its like we are our own extinction
"its hard to argue with a genius but its impossible to argue with an idiot"
someone
(edit oo 500 likes i think the quote is from einstine btw)
You mean a biblical literalist? There are also quite a lot of Muslims as well who believe the qur'an.
@@cosmiccomet5257 My apologies, in the context it meant believe the qur'an says the Earth is flat.
@@cosmiccomet5257 Funny that rather a lot of Muslims believe otherwise which means you don't know very much outside your own little uninformed and bigoted bubble. You are no different from Christians who claim the bible doesn't. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it isn't true it just means you don't like it.
Same thing.
@@CraniumCannibal Get back under your rock.
I love how annoyed Bill Nye is that he even has to comment on this idiotic topic!
I live on 18th floor in Northern Europe. My favourite thing to do is use my telescope to enjoy the view of the Pyramids of Giza from my balcony. Luckily there is no major cities with high rising buildings in the way :)
Take a photo or a video recording and post it
@@mynamemylastname7179 i cant because of air refractions and electromagnetic accelerations
@@mynamemylastname7179
You failed to understand that it was a troll...
LoL
The scary thing is, flat earthers also vote.
I received this comment from one of them "It’s time for people to understand that government USA bunch of lying devils. Trust God and Trump in that order. God is using President Trump to expose the truth about these lying devils like God used Noah, Moses and Abraham."
@woosh if gay What concerns me are what I term "passing tourists", i.e. those that are unsure etc., and if you believe Trump at al are not a problem then you have problems and are stupid. Trump et al are bad for the USA and sorting out things like AGW &ACC.
Perhaps this a good moment to reflect on the timeline of Trump’s statements:
20 January: "We have it under control”.
26 February: "It’s going to disappear”.
10 March: "It will go away”.
29 April: "It’s gonna be gone”.
11 May: "We have prevailed”.
17 June: "It’s fading away”.
19 July: "I’ll be right eventually”.
@@aeaeaeaeaeaease2190 Go and troll elsewhere.
@@aeaeaeaeaeaease2190 As I stated, go and troll elsewhere.
@@aeaeaeaeaeaease2190 this video is completely fucked when it comes to actual science. Theyre using theories not science. Learn the difference idiot. Only globe proofs are cgi and fisheye lens photos. Sounds like theres some flaws. And as dumb bitch says earth casts the shadow on the moon... How bout when the moon is half full, earth is only flat that day? You globe tards dont even think, you let the government do it for ya.
"Go to a seashore."
Unfortunately they're not going anywhere if it's not on UA-cam.
They google....sometimes.
its funny to watch then explain
they would have to climb the stairs from mom's basement.
Most of them are so hopelessly antisocial that they never learned to drive or talk to people. Why we continuously listen to their drivel would be laughable if it weren't such an existential crisis for our species.
Good one mate
And as far as watching objects disappearing over the curvature of the earth? There are different sea/land elevations. And as you explain the eclipse? The moon is in the sky during the day, and during its phases the area illuminated by the sun, should be facing closest to the moon, right? Where I live in this world, the sun and moon phases have not been what I'm used to seeing over the 40 some years I'm accustomed to.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein maybe
This should have been a warning "there's a large amount of people who believe 'vaccines make you magnetic'"
The Earth is both flat & round PROOF= DRAW A CIRCLE ON A PIECE OF PAPER . THERE IS YOUR FLAT CIRCLE. DRAW IT 3D ITS STILL FLAT CIRCLE $luvsaid
@@GoodBarber77 So, you're not really an expert on geometry.
"I never said that" - Albert Einstein
"Don't believe everything you read online" - Sir Isaac Newton
@@GoodBarber77 Nice joke 😂
"When one side has objective truth and the other does not, it should not be debated." ~NDT.
Exactly. I'm tired of indulging idiocy.
That clown can't stick to one position. In this video he says those are fighting words and writes to a rapper. But when tasked against one of the flat earth leaders, he backs out and says he's not debating anymore. Lol
@@Chronz because ignorance on that magnitude will never be breached, even when faced with overwhelming amounts of evidence provided by people who have done the work.
@@Chronz 🐦
@@Chronz 🐦
Exactly. By arguing with these people, you are implying that there is something to debate. There isn't. You wouldn't debate whether the number 6 is bigger than the number 5, or that Lebron James is taller than Danny Devito, so why debate the shape of the earth?
In my experience many FE proponents will agree to a round shape like a plate, but they will not agree that the Earth is a Sphere in what is called “space”
I installed satellite TV. The dish on the roof, is adjusted to account for earth curvature. That’s the most common thing you’d see that explains the earth is round that easily goes unnoticed
Same here but mine was pointed directly to a tower on the mountain close by, you would think anywhere up would work with thousands of satellites floating around everywhere.
Lmao you think you get tv from a satellite that is moving in space when 99 percent of all telecommunications are undersea cable?
I would have thought about GPS when I picked up my cell phone, no more proof needed.
You adjusted to the cell tower. It doesn't make sense to aim at a satellite floating & moving around. Like cell phones connect to cell towers or my phone would work driving through the desert.
@@I.M.SofaKingdom Cell phones connect to cell towers not satellites. This is why they don't work in remote areas. Same with satellite systems. 🙂
I think the scientific community is taking the wrong approach with flat earth debunking. It shouldn't be a study in math or physics, it should be a study in psychology. It's not hard to prove the earth is round - the hard part is understanding the way people think that would make them believe otherwise.
@Hey Girl I Like Your Kitchen Romania Exact same thing is happening with climate change. If someone says climate change isn’t real, you cannot convince them otherwise with words, data, and research alone.
@Hey Girl I Like Your Kitchen Romania Thats absolute bullshit because the “99%” proposition came after Exxon and other oil companies paid millions of dollars in a wide “most scientists disagree on climate change” misinformation campaign.
“The American Meteorological Society (AMS) issued this position statement: "Scientific evidence indicates that the leading cause of climate change in the most recent half century is the anthropogenic increase in the concentration of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, tropospheric ozone, and nitrous oxide." (Adopted April 15, 2019)
The American Geophysical Union (AGU) issued this position statement: "Human-induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate observed over the last 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Reaffirmed in November 2019)
The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) What We Know site states: "Based on the evidence, about 97 percent of climate scientists agree that human-caused climate change is happening.””
“These scientific organizations have not issued statements in a void; they echo the findings of individual papers published in refereed scientific journals. The Institute for Scientific Information (ISI) maintains a database of over 8,500 peer-reviewed science journals, and multiple studies of this database show evidence of overwhelming agreement among climate scientists. In 2004, science historian Naomi Oreskes published the results of her examination of the ISI database in the journal Science. She reviewed 928 abstracts published between 1993 and 2003 related to human activities warming the Earth's surface, and stated, "Remarkably, none of the papers disagreed with the consensus position."
This finding hasn't changed with time. In 2016, a review paper summarized the results of several independent studies on peer-reviewed research related to climate. The authors found results consistent with a 97-percent consensus that human activity is causing climate change.
Probably the most definitive assessments of global climate science come from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Founded by the United Nations in 1988, the IPCC releases periodic reports, and each major release includes three volumes: one on the science, one on impacts, and one on mitigation. Each volume is authored by a separate team of experts, who reviews, evaluates, and summarizes relevant research published since the prior report. Each IPCC report undergoes several iterations of expert and government review. The 2007 IPCC report, for instance, received some 90,000 comments, and each comment received an individual response.”
I think so they have to do is say, just find the edge. Case solved
"Arguing with stupid people is like killing the Mosquito on Your Cheek.
.You might Kill it or not but You'll end up Slapping Yourself for sure."
This is BY FAR the most underrated comment I have ever read in my life and I live on UA-cam. So much in fact I felt I had no choice but to show my wife. Well done indeed lol.
violence and ridicule is ´ball believer´cleverness.....
Hahaha👏👏👏
Love this
It's hilarious how globe believers use this reasoning to reinforce their delusion that they are not the ones this applies to.
Boats appearing to disappear bottom to top has been disproved. It's speculative to say you would continue to see the whole boat if it's flat. Boats have disappeared bottom to top them with a camera, zoomed back into focus.
They haven't. Try harder
To address the other stuff you said:
- You'd still see way farther than we actually see because of Earth's curvature
- Your light bulb isn't magically spinning around your room and lighting it in nonsensical patterns either, and yet here you are
- What makes you think the water would be spun off? Earth isn't rotating all that fast
No it hasn’t. Provide one video where a boat that has already been partially obstructed by the horizon is zoomed back into focus with a camera. I’m not talking about those videos where a flerf zooms in on a small boat which was indiscernible because of its angular size and clearly has not gone past the horizon yet.
2/10. Overused troll. You'll get copy-and-paste replies at best. Also, create a trolling account with flat Earth subscriptions as their absence gives you away.
Some of them really are so ridiculously dumb and nonsensical. They say sun and boat appear to be going below the horizon because of refraction.
EDIT: By they and "some of them", i am referring to flat-earthers.
You managed to get it backwards.
The Sun and boats go below the horizon because the Earth is round.
Refraction tends to make them take longer to do so
Just as Neil said, there's no point debating something that's objectively true. Save yourself some energy and let people like flat earthers talk to a wall or something while you do something productive with your life.
It is not objectively true though, do your own due diligence and research it. Those boats dissappearing over the horizon is from perspective and you can zoom in and they will reappear. Water always finds its own level, its not curved.
@@Dreadz42 you can go to a really high mountain point, yes you will see the boat again but guess what, eventually that boat will travel over the horizon and it will be out of your vision once again.
@@Hex_Glitches dont bother. He will find a reason to not listen to you
@@Hex_Glitches Hes saying you dont have to move to a higher elevation, you just need a high powered camera and when you zoom in it brings the entire ship back into view again. It is a perspective thing, the ship is not actually going over a physical curvature.
@@Hex_Glitches ofcourse brother, those boats will eventually disappear mostly due to perspective, angular resolution, atmospheric factors, refraction and other optical phenomena. It will happend starting at the bottom of the boat usually over water( but not only similar phenomena happens when we drive in the summer on the highway we can see the mirroring effects of refraction...)
It is not due to geometrical horizon.
As Bob the Science Guy says:
There are two kinds of flat-earthers, those who sell t-shirts, and those who buy them.
And those who have a flat brain
@@chingzbilling "And those who have a flat brain" are the ones who BUY the t-shirts.
Awesome. That's entrepreneurship right there.
one kind of globetard, those who are triggered by others cosmology project much? psychology 101
@@supermagneticman My profound apologies if facts get in the way of your beliefs; there is nothing we can do about that!
Cats prove the earth is round, if it were flat they would have pushed everything off the edge by now.
True
This comment never fails to make me laugh.
You can't see infinitely far due to perspective AND atmospheric density
But neither of those explain why objects are obstructed from the bottom up by a clear horizon.
Flat earthers: prove me the earth is round!
People: there you have it.
Flat earthers: everything is a lie
Honestly 😂 you give them vast amounts of proof and then discredit what you say because you’re “indoctrinated”
that's what Neil was saying about debates
@@Hammer_Of_Olympia gravity: it is an illusion
The horizon on coasts: it is a myth
Other plants are a sphere: earth is flat
They reject evidence and proof with just "I don't buy it, it is a lie/myth"
David Scott I know, it’s all utter nonsense. But you can’t save people from their own insanity and ineptitude. It’s a shame these cunts exist
@@Hammer_Of_Olympia they are so frustrating
"No amount of evidence, will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain.
I agree. Lost some friends, because THEY tried to convince me about a flat Earth.
lol
lmao even
That's why globers are still out there.
@@unknown_media_devicesurely mark Twain is a glober!
He was exclusively talking about globe believers 🎯
The sun... goes down. Sunsets happen, Sunrises happen. The light is shining on the bottom of the clouds. And that is enough
Flat earthers, people to have fun about.
why bother ? if flat earthers would be receptive to scientific reasoning, they wouldn't be flat earthers in the first place. Any energy spent on this debate is energy lost to real topics.
^This. Stop giving them a spotlight.
A large portion of them are just trolling
@@cholobok I am with you on that. I've came across a few that aren't, but yea, for the most part it's exactly what a troll would do: pick a really dumb topic, pretend you believe it, have fun wasting people's time and pissing them off. :)
Because globe Earth is the biggest lie and they want to hide to truth.
@ANDMA its extremely dangerous and can send us back 2500 years.
NASA: *Send flat earther on space
Flat Earthers: Wow CGI is getting real and real
hell claim its VR instead
Push them out an airlock
Send Them Off The SpaceShip!!!!!!
Then They Will See That The Earth Is Round And They Will See That There Is An AfterLife.
You Will Prove 2 Things With One Action.
@@bornkinggamer3347 u're a shady programmer
@@bornkinggamer3347 ikr
I think there are much easier ways to deal with the flatheads. Ask them: What are the dimensions of the earth? What is on the underside of the earth? If you keep flying straight in one direction, you should get to the edge (where are those photos?), and then if you keep going and look back, you should be able to see the side of the earth. How thick is the earth? If we keep digging down, will we pop out the bottom? Where is the proof of this? Etc.
Look at the moon.. it reflects the exact land masses of the earth, plus the craters in the ocean.
They’ll just cry “you can’t prove anything!”
Admiral Bryd took photos, which is now declassified. It's not a edge, because if you look at the UN map, the circle is the ice wall. As seen in Bryd's photos. There is more land as well, as seen from the moon's surface, which is (our surface) reflected back at us. The lighter land mass with the craters are the oceans. With craters at the bottom sea and ocean floors. The other land masses have been secretly explored. We are not floating in a vacuum of space. We and the other planets are more like islands in large bodies of water, ether, hydrogen, and ice. With the same atmospheres that the round earth uses. But a semi circle over us. Instead of a full circle atmosphere around a ball.
And interstellar travel between planets can happen above with flight.. and below, if your vehicle can traverse whatever liquid viscosity to get to the other planet/environment.. all "circle" images of other planets are because of the fractal way we have to see into its firmament. (Like a prism/periscope)
And I sound as crazy as us spinning and hurling thru space 1000 miles around the sun with a never rotating moon (locking in position) that controls the waves along with our gravity to keep the 70% of water held down. And the moon does move too.. real fast around us, it just doesn't shake wobble or rotate. It just moves as fast as we move around the sun.. but at an extremely fixed position. And our continents match up mirror-like with the dark contours of the moon. (Along with that super big landmass that we don't discuss)
Debates in front of an audience are entertainment. That's the whole point.
Id rather have a debate that entertains me and teaching me something new or at least gives food for thought.
Debating wether the Earth is a globe or flat is not that. Flat earth is just an internet meme
“People have known the earth is spherical for thousands of years.” She made one of the best roasts I’ve ever tasted.
Legend how has no one in the comments noticed😭
People have known the world World was round for hundreds or thousands of years based on recent discouveries - It's only our modern civilization or European civilization that was not aware of this until recently
how could they know anything with their caveman like telescopes and ideas , now we have the technology to prove one way or the other , and it has been
@@outerlands3382 heard of the well experiment
@@ah3750 ha , that's a good one , that's funny , ha
It's not ok to think that the Earth is flat". Thaller pretty much sums up how doomed we are.
Tyson looks so exhausted by this insanity.
Its ok. Everyone did just fine believing it for ages
@@Chronz No we didn't. Erastothenese of ancient Grece calculated the circumference of the Earth using an obelisk in Alexandria and a well in Syrene. It's not ok to be more ignorant than people 2000 years ago.
@jstnjpeg the point remains
@@majacovic5141 yes we did. Ur ignorant to history if you think 1 person makes up collective consciousness. There's alot about the ancients we don't understand
@@Chronz If humanity again believes the earth is flat, you can say goodbye to technology that relies on satellites, and those cargo ships that get you all those goods from overseas
I can’t help but think the 2006 movie by Mike Judge, Idiocracy, is coming true. We, as a society, are becoming stupid. So sad.
The new dark ages?
Honestly, I was expecting Thaller to whip out a Flying V and start singing Rust In Peace
The fact this is discussed in this day and age is just appalling.
Bill's Expression after being asked is hilarious... he's like "come on, someone shoot me know and save me from this eternal stupidity." Neil's expression is like here we go again... and Michelle is starting to realize people are really THAT stupid.
George Carlin was absolutely right about stupid people.
Especially when we literally have video and photos from space.
@Ludus Aurea To make up the average of the intelligence of the entire human race, someone has to be the minimum. Flerfs are that minimum.
Also for people like you and me who aren't completely insane photo evidence is pretty good evidence. Not so for flerfs. That's how conspiracy theories survive. Any information proving the theory, no matter the source, is true and gospel. Anything disproving the theory is made up by a cabal of Satanists/government/foreigners/something.
You're right. The sooner everyone gets on side with Jesuit Sun Worship, the sooner we can kick Armageddon off once and for all!
It scares me that there are adults, functioning members of society, people who have jobs and families, who can vote, who can drink, who can drive a car, yet can't believe physics
Why......... - just saying. Think about what is behind the belief in "Flat Earth" = "religion". So it frankly does not matter "what" the concept is being applied to. For people to believe in a theistic worldview already presupposes acceptance of "magical thinking" - in that case applied to "divine beings" and supposed miracles.
Ergo why would it therefore come as a surprise that the same assumptive beliefs are simply taken a step further to discount the entirety of our reality vis a vis the nature of our planet to cling to a "literalist" view of the world based upon ancient beliefs. If you base your worldview on claims dating to millennia ago when people would be by today's standards marginally literate then finding people who today claim the Earth is flat is simply = "more of the same". There reality begin and ends with their imaginations driven by their desire to believe what they believe. Facts and logic therefore do not apply. 🤨
Physics is not to be believed it's for understanding
Are you sure they are really functioning members of society?
And reproduce!
The natural physics of water is to seek its LEVEL.
If ever you want an exercise in futility, discuss this issue with a 'flat Earther'. They get angry, they get abusive, their language turns the air blue. Walk away, far easier.
Cultists gonna cult.
I can't believe people still think this
Whenever you feel stupid, just remember that there are flat earthers.
Garbage
found one
@@ervisalmighty2282 what a clown
@@freezeframeplease trash you feel brave from far
@@beginnerpiano73 Don't be a flat earther. the earth is round not flat.
Michelle is on the verge of pulling her hair out, Neil is planning his black hole trip, and Bill is seriously questioning how an entire generation that watched his shows can think the earth is flat.
I love that other people know about his black hole trip. I don't know how many heard about it.
Only BRAINWASHED people believe. We knów !!!! HOW IGNORANT IS THIS!!! wow
maybe because people are waking up to the indoctrination that is started at a young age. nasa is infiltrated with freemasons and satanists.
Because reality debunks them.
@@fpvangel4495
Yes, reality debunks flat earth cult beliefs. I agree
CORRECTION!! It is neither! It is SPHERICAL!!
When it comes to a round earth people aren’t just ‘believing what they’re told’. However, that’s what’s happening with flat earthers, who are literally repeating what they’ve seen on the internet, or what their religion tells them. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with asking questions about the nature of the Earth but all the answers (aka the everyday evidence) clearly show the Earth is round. Asking questions is easy but it’s what you do with the answers that counts. I was a marine navigator for an oil company, I have sailed several oceans, including the pacific, and we navigated successfully based on a round earth. I’ve also had the privilege to spend time with a guy who ran the British Antarctic survey. He’d have certainly mentioned if there was a prohibited ice wall and of course, he never did, simply because there isn’t. The Norwegian Amundsen reached the South Pole in 1912, over forty years before NASA was even thought of, yet apparently flat earthers say NASA is patrolling an ice wall. It’s just nonsense and you’ll notice there is absolutely no evidence for it. Nor can there ever be. Flat earth is the absolute definition of people believing what they have been told, and would like to believe, rather than considering the actual evidence.