UNTOUCHABLE - Ryzen 7 9800X3D Review

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @foxdart
    @foxdart 15 днів тому +45

    EXCELLENT GRAPHS AND METHOD
    Hey Mike, like many of the die hards, I've watched most of the 9800x3d coverage today. your 720p low vs 1080p high graphs are brilliant. they include almost every processor i would hope to compare and they look great doing it.
    i don't mean to call any of your peers clowns but your graphs simply convey the information required. Video production is an art, anyone can launch a built in benchmark, but presenting the data in an ACESSESSABLE and READABLE format really is the the difference between good and great content.
    My hat is off to you, on a day when all the techpress are measured against each other i believe you and your production team have outdone themselves and outshone the competition.

  • @JoselitoBurrito
    @JoselitoBurrito 16 днів тому +71

    Not only the information is beautifully and easily presented with fantastic graphs, but you also provide some of the best b-roll visuals ever. Those processor shots are stunning 👏🏻👏🏻

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 днів тому +5

      Thanks. Our intent is to show the maximum amount of information in a limited time but I'm always worried about adding too much and that causing the content to become less digestible. I'm happy we seem to have struck a good balance with this.

  • @shwetankshukla
    @shwetankshukla 15 днів тому +20

    I liked the data presentation.. Best among all the reviews i have seen till now.

  • @Kniazz
    @Kniazz 16 днів тому +49

    Thank you for testing Microsoft Flight Simulator!
    Reviewers rarely test those worst-case, VERY CPU-demanding scenarios, unfortunately.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 днів тому +19

      So here's the thing....Flight Simulator isn't CPU intensive. We're talking 5-10% at most. What it DOES do is seriously tax a single core since its engine doesn't seem to be multi-core aware. Hopefully the new version will change that.

    • @Kniazz
      @Kniazz 15 днів тому +9

      @@HardwareCanucks still CPU intensive in my book, since it makes CPU perform to it's limit.
      In this particular case this is a single threaded/single core limit. Which is still a common limiting factor even today, since usually even decently threaded games will not be able to load all cores equally. Which results in a single or two cores hitting 100% and thus becoming a bottleneck, while rest stays at like 75--80%.
      But you already know that.

    • @TheKazragore
      @TheKazragore 15 днів тому +3

      Paul's Hardware is the only other one I'm aware of.

    • @RobFisherUK
      @RobFisherUK 13 днів тому

      Yep, I'm doing MSFS in VR (so > 4K) and I'm still CPU bound (admittedly on a 5900X).

  • @thanemarston4037
    @thanemarston4037 15 днів тому +45

    Wow, the comments in the comment section are full of brain rot.
    We know no one here is going to use this to game at 720p.
    But he's using 720p so you can see the full extent of the cpus power. To show you the gnerational increase as essiky as possible.
    If you are gaming at 4k then cpu doesn't matter much only for 1 percent lows.
    1440p cpu could depend on the title.
    Surprised people dont understand this.

    • @gezimlimoni2319
      @gezimlimoni2319 14 днів тому +2

      And for 1080p?

    • @thanemarston4037
      @thanemarston4037 14 днів тому +4

      @gezimlimoni2319 it's still a good visualisation, but avatar frontiers of Pandora shows us that even at 1080p you can be completely gpu bound even at 1080p.
      So that's why they use 720p purely as a visualisation of gains.

    • @gezimlimoni2319
      @gezimlimoni2319 14 днів тому +2

      @@thanemarston4037 yep, makes sense 👍

    • @spamcan9208
      @spamcan9208 13 днів тому

      ​@@thanemarston4037I'm not a gamer so maybe it's not surprising to others but seeing a game being gpu bound at 1080 using the 4090 was surprising to me. What's the cause? Is it doing additional work?

    • @Aurora12488
      @Aurora12488 12 днів тому +1

      ​@@spamcan9208 I think they're intending 1080p Highest to be a sort of "HFR gamer profile". The ones that bought 1080p 500Hz monitors and are running a 4090 and want to see what they'll actually get. Except I disagree with that choice; I think Highest settings usually has some small graphics options that absolutely obliterate GPU performance at max setting, while high or medium are visually extremely similar. It's showing more aggressive GPU-bound scenarios than you might actually legitimately see. And I think most HFR gamers are now using the 1440p OLED/QD-OLEDs which can do up to 1440p 480Hz, so unless strobing is mandatory in someone's eyes 1080p LCD monitors may as well be dead. I think 1440p Low/Medium or a mix of "Recommended" settings would be way more useful data.

  • @TheLateral18
    @TheLateral18 16 днів тому +58

    The 5800x3d is one of the best CPUs ever made 👊 😤

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 днів тому +8

      Absolutely.

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 15 днів тому +1

      sad it runs at rather too low ghz for a highend pc, if you can oc it to 5ghz i think its just as good as 9800x3d

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 15 днів тому

      prob its am4 limitation though, to run at sub 4.5ghz

    • @okramediev404
      @okramediev404 15 днів тому +3

      And i like its slower brother as well, the 5700x3d.

    • @claudebanthus6511
      @claudebanthus6511 14 днів тому

      @@okramediev404 planned to get it someday from 5600g, here 5700x3d to 5800x3d is like $130 difference

  • @ramonzaions7522
    @ramonzaions7522 16 днів тому +94

    Came to papa 9800X3D! Now just wait for rtx5090!

    • @TopShot501st
      @TopShot501st 16 днів тому +11

      My wallet though...🫙

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 днів тому +36

      RIP your wallet. Especially with AM5 platform prices....

    • @TheLateral18
      @TheLateral18 16 днів тому +2

      @@ramonzaions7522 i want to have money like you

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 днів тому +29

      @@TheLateral18 I have two kids under 3 years old now. I have no money. - Mike

    • @heisenbug3542
      @heisenbug3542 15 днів тому +15

      ​@@HardwareCanucks I sold mine to afford the upgrade.
      The kids will do fine with their new master.

  • @korg47237
    @korg47237 16 днів тому +141

    I'm just happy my 5800X3D is going to be relevant for the foreseeable future.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 днів тому +45

      It absolutely will be. Like I said, its still the GOAT in my books - Mike

    • @simonb.8868
      @simonb.8868 16 днів тому +7

      it is not, it's already old

    • @macaronsuki3314
      @macaronsuki3314 16 днів тому +9

      The 5700X3D is better value for the price. Less than $200

    • @lovie74
      @lovie74 16 днів тому

      I have one too but, I was thinking of upgrading due to playing competitive shooters and mainly for tarkov lol. Tarkov is way too vcache/ram heavy.
      I wouldnt upgrade if I mainly played single player games but, I do play a lot of competitive shooters that are really cpu bound and never max out my 4090 so.

    • @macaronsuki3314
      @macaronsuki3314 16 днів тому +1

      @lovie74 You can take the Ryzen 7 9700X at $300. It will be enough and I think 32GB or ram 6000mhz at $100 is a good combo

  • @Lennox032
    @Lennox032 15 днів тому +5

    Thanks for performing the tests in 720p !

  • @jessterman21
    @jessterman21 15 днів тому +5

    Great conclusion! And thanks for including both 5700X3D and 5800X3D because I waited too long and now the former is really the only option that makes sense. Good to know it's only around 8% slower in games.

  • @charlesnix8314
    @charlesnix8314 16 днів тому +9

    Great video and tons of information, I thank you for the hard work you put into this. Sounds like the 9800X3D is a jack of trades but a master to gaming chip. Hope you feel better soon.

  • @Ash-bx6kq
    @Ash-bx6kq 15 днів тому +8

    I appreciate the 720p low charts for CS2

  • @earliamdapter
    @earliamdapter 11 днів тому +1

    You are the best, Mike! Thanks for your amazing perspective and opinions as always 👏👏👏

  • @xarisathos
    @xarisathos 14 днів тому +4

    I greatly appreciate the Houdini results, which prove the fact the the V-Cache plays a huge role, more than the frequency of 9700X, in fluid simulations!
    So, the 9950X3D will finalize AMD's yesterday bloodbath! Thanks again for those results (and if you can, please add some more 3D apps results in the future!)

  • @rodneyclayton8276
    @rodneyclayton8276 13 днів тому +2

    Very nicely done! I appreciate your testing methodology in order to show the CPU true performance over the 7800x3d. Thank You!

  • @bobjohnson6131
    @bobjohnson6131 14 днів тому +3

    Man I’m so glad I didn’t FOMO on 7800x3d. I’m on i5-4690. After 10 years Moving on to 9800 x3d babaaay

  • @nifftwatkins3135
    @nifftwatkins3135 15 днів тому +10

    Enjoyed this review, thanks. Your point that the 720p results bode well for the future was insightful.

  • @Vonliktenstien
    @Vonliktenstien 13 днів тому +4

    Unsubscribed a while back, but came back after hearing about the unfounded flak you guys caught for testing at 720p for a CPU review. Keep on keeping on.

  • @yaBoyDreamer
    @yaBoyDreamer 12 днів тому +1

    Awesome presentation, perfect test scenarios. Kudos to you guys, ignore the smooth brained fellers in the comments :)) Came here after Steve from Hardware Unboxed presented your situation*

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  11 днів тому

      LOL. I wasn't aware that Steve brought us up. I'll have to take a look.

  • @christophermullins7163
    @christophermullins7163 12 днів тому

    You guys fully deserve 1.88mil subs. Had no idea this channel was this big but not surpriswd. The charts are some of the easiest to digest and most use data i have seen. The 720 low is a nice add to show a variety of game settings and how it changes the load. Brilliant job HC!

  • @Hito343
    @Hito343 4 дні тому

    Amazing review, finally someone did complete temps and power compared to a regular counterparts.

  • @VarjoPira
    @VarjoPira 9 днів тому +1

    This is an excellent video, graphics and presentation all. Bloody hell, what a chip.

  • @krjal3038
    @krjal3038 12 днів тому

    Fantastic review! I love that you went in-depth enough to show where the 9800X3D can go in the future with those 720p tests. It probably won't be long before there's a gpu capable enough to 'unbind' the chip at 1080p but apparently it's too good right now.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  12 днів тому

      Exactly, its what people aren't thinking about,.

  • @stennan
    @stennan 9 днів тому

    Thanks for including the relevant AM5 akd AM4 CPUs in this comparison.
    Really gives a clear comparison between the buying options. 7600 (non-X) for now and Zen 6 in 2-3 years on the same motherboard 😊

  • @wrathgaming2323
    @wrathgaming2323 15 днів тому +1

    Great review always can count on mike to bring the best reviews

  • @drewnewby
    @drewnewby 16 днів тому +9

    Mike, they all came to your video for 4K testing for some reason. Don't let them get to you, I play most games at 200p. Sure, they're DOS, but it's what it takes for that smooth 24 fps.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 днів тому +6

      Haha. Maybe they didn't see WHY we tested how we tested.

    • @drewnewby
      @drewnewby 16 днів тому +3

      They just want the graphs to be a completely vertical wall.

    • @MrRumple9
      @MrRumple9 14 днів тому

      I play text based rpgs and this bad boy gets me 1 million fps

  • @Jerome-iwnl
    @Jerome-iwnl 15 днів тому +5

    Imagine a 12 core, single CCD, X3D chip
    Then imagine Turbo mode on that (SMT OFF)
    You'll have 12 cores (and 12T) that are super powerful, while still having respectable multi threaded performance

    • @Dr.WhetFarts
      @Dr.WhetFarts 15 днів тому +2

      You won't see that. Next CCD core count step up is 16 cores and won't be ready before 2027-2028.

    • @Jerome-iwnl
      @Jerome-iwnl 15 днів тому +3

      @Dr.WhetFarts Yeah, I'm hoping Zen 6 would do that. We need more cores per CCD

  • @MrLutijen
    @MrLutijen 13 днів тому +17

    Keep testing in 720p. Don't pay attention to brain dead comments of people who are not capable of understanding basics in CPU testing methodology. It shows their ignorance in full public view.

  • @Katjajaja
    @Katjajaja 13 днів тому +1

    I see that there are still a lot of people who need to be educated on what a CPU does for a gaming PC. The reason gaming benchmarks for CPUs test at low resolution and detail is because the CPU will determine your MAX FPS in games. In most situations you will run into a GPU bottleneck before a CPU bottleneck if you have a well balanced system however there are still CPU bound games where you will notice a tangible difference even at higher resolutions like MMOs, strategy games, and Tarkov.
    Naturally if you only play at 4K max settings with a 4090 a lot of modern CPUs will give the exact same result because you will be heavily GPU bottlenecked.

  • @kur0tech1
    @kur0tech1 15 днів тому +1

    great review! thank you so much sir.

  • @sannyye_
    @sannyye_ 15 днів тому +7

    Imagine complaining about the res of the benchmarks. Lmao 😂 lower res is better to show the full potential of the cpu. When gpus get stronger it will show the cpu being able to provide more performance

  • @abhinabpadhi
    @abhinabpadhi 13 днів тому

    Wow .. I took a used PC with a 7800x3d few months before. Was skeptical if it would stay relevant once 9800x3D comes out. And I'm happy that the gamble paid off 😅.

  • @evilpotatoman9436
    @evilpotatoman9436 15 днів тому +5

    Its a great review actually, the 720p results are very helpful as they simulate the use of a 5090 later down the line.

    • @icozmeq
      @icozmeq 15 днів тому

      Bullshit!

  • @bes12000
    @bes12000 15 днів тому

    Based on the results im seeing from multiple reviewers from the 9800X3D, im very excited to see what the 9950X3D can do, hopefully it blows the doors off of everything.

  • @jamesm568
    @jamesm568 15 днів тому +2

    Current 5800X3D owner. I know I'm purchasing the 9800X3D first thing Thursday morning as I already purchased a X870P MB and 64GB 6400MT/s RAM. Not a bad upgrade for less than $1,000 coming from AM4. Probably upgrade to 8300MT/s RAM If it's beneficial.

    • @scuffedgodcxcx253
      @scuffedgodcxcx253 14 днів тому

      Theres diminishing returns or even negative with speeds too high since latency increases. 6000mt cl28 is usually better than 6800 cl 34 and so on. Its the combination that counts, although the performance impact is usually close to negligible.

  • @sebleaf8433
    @sebleaf8433 14 днів тому

    Finally a reviewer with a good selection of games.

  • @VicharB
    @VicharB 16 днів тому

    Really good to see bump in Ghz, lower TDP/Temp and overall gain, though not substantial compared to 78--X3D, but still overall good package.. Will upgrade next year from my current 7700X running with 32GB/6400 CL32 along with 2TB Samsung 990 Pro & nVidia 3800Ti (hopefully will have budget to upgrade GPU as well).

  • @juanme555
    @juanme555 6 днів тому

    720p benchmarks are AWESOME for those of us still using CRT monitors, mine can do 1920x1440 but i like the look of 1280x800 and 1280x960.

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon8320 15 днів тому

    Thanks for this very well done video.

  • @aaronlagomarsino7980
    @aaronlagomarsino7980 16 днів тому +2

    Thank you for running rocket league benchmarks!

  • @qweety123
    @qweety123 16 днів тому +3

    Awesome stuff! Can we begin to add Diablo 4 to this list? Also, League of Legends (typically cpu bound) is rumored to update client for next year. :)

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 днів тому +1

      We've been looking to remove some titles and add others. However, I want to wait until 2025 to do that since there are some in-game security updates (which will require VBS enablement) and engine changes that might impact our choices.

  • @Mutio86
    @Mutio86 16 днів тому +1

    Keeping my RAM and CPU cooler last year in February and going for a 5800X3D and B550 board seems to have been a VERY good decision (a friend bought my B450 board together with my 3700X). Especially considering I am gaming in 4K. Still the performance of the 9800X3D is outstanding.
    Also thank you for the well done and well made test! I've been following you guys since years now and I'm sure I'm not the only person from Germany here enjoying your content. Keep it up!

  • @martinarscott3524
    @martinarscott3524 15 днів тому +5

    Looks like I'll be returning to AMD for the first time in over 20yrs, though waiting to see what the 9950X3D brings before taking the plunge....

  • @b1lleman
    @b1lleman 14 днів тому +2

    Absolutely awesome review. I like the inclusion of 720P ;-) I like your laidback style, I wouldn't mind going out and drinking a couple of beers with you ;-) Cheers and kudos

  • @MakeSh00t
    @MakeSh00t 15 днів тому

    i love my 7800x3d but i will love even more when i will have 9950x3d it has dual ccd x3d cache
    :d I just wait for it ! :D

  • @RobFisherUK
    @RobFisherUK 13 днів тому +1

    The 720P testing here is a proxy for what you might get with a 5090 at 1080P.

  • @hennie1311
    @hennie1311 13 днів тому

    Great review, ty!

  • @aeromotive2
    @aeromotive2 15 днів тому

    this thing is amazing. Will we be able to get one at msrp or what

  • @BorisZakharov98
    @BorisZakharov98 15 днів тому

    I'm assuming a phantom spirit would be enough for this, but would like to see a test regardless. thanks for the videos.

  • @necromancer1970
    @necromancer1970 15 днів тому +5

    New x870e board + 64g ddr already here, 9800x3d will be bought tomorrow.
    Finally my 4090 Strix can stretch its legs (and my 5800x3d goes into another rig). And now waiting for 5090...will be an awesome combo.

  • @AvroBellow
    @AvroBellow 15 днів тому

    I have an R7-5800X3D coupled with an RX 7900 XTX and 32GB of DDR4-3600 CL18.
    I probably won't feel any need to upgrade until AM6 comes along. 😁

  • @ДмитрийЭль-р5з
    @ДмитрийЭль-р5з 15 днів тому +1

    Thank you, Mike. Waiting for new CPU cooler tests with 9800X3D. 🥰

  • @Joshua_Uwadiae
    @Joshua_Uwadiae 15 днів тому

    This next GPU generation better be good

  • @Jerome-iwnl
    @Jerome-iwnl 15 днів тому

    This new turbo mode looks promising. But will the results change if you have a bunch of browser tabs open along with Discord, spotify and other such apps? (Apps that people keep open while playing games)

  • @JohnMuz1
    @JohnMuz1 15 днів тому

    get well soon, but great review...

  • @darksolusion1
    @darksolusion1 15 днів тому +2

    Since you guys are Canadian reviewers, you should include Canadian pricing. Such a pain trying to find non-US pricing -_-"

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  15 днів тому +7

      That is the issue, we rarely if ever get CAD pricing prior to launch or even before items start appearing at retailers.

    • @kimochi33
      @kimochi33 15 днів тому

      It's okay. On the internet, unless mentioned, it's default to USD.
      Canadians are better. We can function in USD, pounds, feet, Fahrenheit

  • @shane3x
    @shane3x 15 днів тому

    I have never purchased an amd cpu before, but Intel has really stopped the ball over the last few years so I think when the 5090 comes out I’ll be picking this up also.

  • @Aurora12488
    @Aurora12488 13 днів тому +4

    I actually think 720p and 1440p Low might be the better two resolutions to test at. 720p to remove as much GPU bottleneck as possible, as you've stated (and is super appreciated!), but then 1440p Low to more reflect the monitors people who are interest in HFR are actually running with. The 1080p 480+Hz monitors are quite rare and have a lot of compromises (size for LG's dual mode, LCD panels for the others), while the 1440p 240/360Hz WOLEDs and QD-OLEDs have been just absolutely destroying these last two years. I think 1080p for e-sports nowadays is essentially dead for all but legitimate professionals (and even that I wonder), especially once the 5090 comes out.
    Also, I think Highest settings is a mistake that's not adding much value. I feel like most "competitive gamers" set the render resolution to match their panel, start at Low settings, and then only turn up the eye candy when it's not causing them to drop below 10-15% of the max. Which is still damn hard to do with even 4090s, now that we're making 360+Hz the HFR norm. In non-competitive games they may turn them up to Medium/High-ish, but never to Highest because we are continuously told the marginal benefit of the most extreme Graphics settings is usually dramatically smaller than the tradeoff in GPU render time. Or maybe, consider doing CS2/OW/Valorant/etc. on 1440p Low, and things like Hogwarts Legacy/CP2077 on 1440p High-ish "Recommended" settings, for a sort of "realistic HFR gaming" profile.

  • @AD34534
    @AD34534 15 днів тому +2

    6:16 it's a wrap😂

  • @kunka592
    @kunka592 15 днів тому +2

  • @philscomputerlab
    @philscomputerlab 16 днів тому

    Nice 😊

  • @graysonpeddie
    @graysonpeddie 15 днів тому

    I plan on waiting on the 9950X3D so I can do content creation and gaming in Linux.

  • @gw7624
    @gw7624 15 днів тому +1

    If I was building an AM5 system now, I'd get a 7800X3D and wait for Zen 6. The performance increase isn't worth the power gain IMO.

    • @bobjohnson6131
      @bobjohnson6131 14 днів тому +1

      Bruh 7800x3d is $450 lol. 9800x3d is $479. It’s obvious which one to buy. Unless you bought the 7800x 3d when it was $300

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 13 днів тому

      There's only a notable power gain in all-core productivity workloads. In gaming power draw is essentially identical (+/-10W).

  • @raphlow
    @raphlow 15 днів тому +3

    So many people arguing that 720 is irrelevant in 2024, guys this is a ******* benchmark video, a few years from now when games start getting heavier on the CPU side (hopefully not too soon), these 720p numbers will be reflected in higher resolutions

  • @kavibaig8363
    @kavibaig8363 15 днів тому +2

    Does it make sense to pair this CPU with my 4080 Super?
    I game at 1440p UW
    Using a a 5800X3D currently

    • @bobbybob6597
      @bobbybob6597 15 днів тому +1

      Makes sense

    • @Dr.WhetFarts
      @Dr.WhetFarts 15 днів тому

      Yes, if you have 144 Hz minimum.

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 15 днів тому

      Yes but not worth upgrading from your 5800x3d. unless you are extremely competitive player who have 360hz monitor or you mostly play cpu hog games like flight sim, cities skylines, teardown, beamng drive (with tons of traffic), basically any tycoon, management, flight simulator, large scale strategy, and physics heavy games.

  • @someoldguyplays
    @someoldguyplays 15 днів тому

    Damn, with this 9800x3d, AM5 longevity is pretty much guaranteed to at least match the AM4

  • @Edgar-u8v9m
    @Edgar-u8v9m 15 днів тому +1

    Should I upgrade my 7800x3d for the new 9800x3d

  • @Jerome-iwnl
    @Jerome-iwnl 15 днів тому

    Turbo mode 1% lows look insanely good

  • @celtshaun1427
    @celtshaun1427 15 днів тому

    This chip coming so quick after the 7800x3D which also burst through a ceiling when compared to the competition is unparalleled has this sort of gain been seen before ?

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 13 днів тому

      ... Coming so quick? O_o There was a longer time gap between the 7800X3D & 9800X3D (≈1.5 years) than there was between the 5800X3D & 7800X3D (≈1 year). 🤷

  • @robertkirkpatrick1826
    @robertkirkpatrick1826 15 днів тому +1

    So if im gaming at 4k with a 4090 and a 5800x3d, pass on the 9800x3d?

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  15 днів тому +1

      Generally yes because you are WAY within GPU limitation territory.

  • @marcm.
    @marcm. 15 днів тому

    13:08 not only silicon lottery. AMD isn't just binning these chips heavily, I suspect very much, that the v cash is making them more efficient, and therefore you have benefits from that too

  • @MrGeesikser
    @MrGeesikser 15 днів тому

    We went from Intel fighting with AMD to Intel fighting itself and losing bruh 😵‍💫

  • @nikki-u.w.u
    @nikki-u.w.u 14 днів тому +1

    Thank you so much for 720p testing :3 ✨🤍✨

  • @lvc394
    @lvc394 10 днів тому

    A great CPU if you can find one. I may finally build a Zen 5 system so get cranking AMD and make more X3D,s

  • @omegajvn1
    @omegajvn1 15 днів тому +1

    (puts feet up in in recliner) Ahhhhhhhhhh my 5800X3D is doing just fine at 1440p lol

  • @oggeman00
    @oggeman00 15 днів тому +3

    Great video, but I don't understand why 720p is relevant. Since 1080p is the most common resolution, that should serve as the base. This can then be compared with 1440p. Or am I missing something here?

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  15 днів тому +2

      It isn't about popularity. Its about removing bottlenecks so the CPUs can largely stand on their own.

    • @anatolpiotrowski9728
      @anatolpiotrowski9728 15 днів тому +3

      ​@HardwareCanucks We would like to know if 9800x3d makes sense for resolutions higher than 1080p. Is my money better spent on 9700x if I use 1440p monitor?

    • @martinarscott3524
      @martinarscott3524 15 днів тому

      @@anatolpiotrowski9728 valid point, I game at 4k cos I mostly play open world rpg type stuff and like my visuals, but I'm still curious what cpu upgrade is most worthwhile to me, especially as my 10600K is due for replacement after Christmas....I understand why 1080p is used predominantly, but just a brief bit of 4k comparison would be much appreciated

    • @lbsheng2912
      @lbsheng2912 15 днів тому +2

      ​@@martinarscott3524it will still be 9800X3D because the huge cache makes the 1% frame more stable..

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 15 днів тому

      Cuz when you are benchmarking cpu you never ever want any other hardware aside the cpu to be bottlenecked ,

  • @vaeloreonari7516
    @vaeloreonari7516 12 днів тому

    Just like the 5800X3D was a revolutionary CPU, so is the 9800X3D with its new architecture and overclockability, low power draw and low temps. But it's not good enough to open my wallet and change out my 7800X3D.

  • @nelsonr.9450
    @nelsonr.9450 16 днів тому +2

    I'm between the 5950x and the 5800x3D 😭 to pair with a rx 6800 xt (am4)
    I'm a gamer, but I want to edit, code, encode and much more...
    I know, one is better for gaming and the other for the rest...
    Should I get another cpu?
    Help, anyone... 😢

    • @razor19829
      @razor19829 15 днів тому +1

      if you already have good am4 mobo,go with 5900x,5950x is to expensive for 2020 cpu,5900x you can encode edit and decent gaming experience,better than 5800x3d for multitasking,just give it at least 32gig and good nvme

    • @larsenmats
      @larsenmats 15 днів тому +1

      Instead go for a much cheaper 5700X3D.

    • @TheKazragore
      @TheKazragore 15 днів тому

      ​@@razor19829or get the 5900XT potebtially. It's just a foenclocked cheaper 5950X.

  • @snap8386
    @snap8386 15 днів тому

    Damn dude, AMD names already are pretty difficult to understand, you could explain that the first one was repeated just to Add Turbo or you could just give the same name to R7 9800X3D and the Plus Turbo.

  • @oswaldjh
    @oswaldjh 15 днів тому

    The 7800x3d wasn't a good upgrade from my 5800x3d due to a complete platform change.
    This 9800x3d might be enough of a uplift to justify the $1K upgrade to AM5.
    Since most initial numbers are when paired with a 4090, I'll wait to see what the benchmark is on my card, RTX 4070 TI Super.

    • @Dr.WhetFarts
      @Dr.WhetFarts 15 днів тому

      5800X3D to 9800X3D is for sure a nice upgrade.

    • @larsenmats
      @larsenmats 15 днів тому

      @@Dr.WhetFarts For gaming I don't think so. People with mid to higher end graphics cards play at 1440p or 4K with higher settings. There would be little to no difference for gaming. For productivity stuff or gaming at 720p/1080p low settings, sure there is a difference 🤣

  • @MadridistaFrieren
    @MadridistaFrieren 16 днів тому +3

    Inalillahi Intel 🙏
    Mike we need more cooler review and more cooler round up.

  • @shadowarez1337
    @shadowarez1337 16 днів тому +1

    Wait for the 9950x3D prey it has duel V-cache 🙏

    • @thetheoryguy5544
      @thetheoryguy5544 16 днів тому +1

      Bruh.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 днів тому +3

      I think the 9800X3D will be the "sweet spot" for gamers for price vs performance. Remember, the dual CCD designs still have some hiccups in consistency from one game to another, to the point where the 9700X / 9600X can match or beat them overall.

    • @shadowarez1337
      @shadowarez1337 16 днів тому +1

      @HardwareCanucks I was hoping they'd try something different this gen maybe next gen well have a 16c CCD for the 10800x3d.

    • @Dr.WhetFarts
      @Dr.WhetFarts 15 днів тому

      9950X3D will be pointless for gamers, just like 7950X3D. 7800X3D beats it overall. Single CCD chips is better for gaming.

    • @shadowarez1337
      @shadowarez1337 15 днів тому

      @Dr.WhetFarts hence why with cache changes I'd hoped they'd ironed that out but I suppose they have no reason to make something new until there is a reason to try instead of slapping new # on the box.

  • @Vermilicious
    @Vermilicious 16 днів тому +12

    Nvidia is taking the high end GPU throne, while AMD is taking the high end gaming CPU throne. I suppose Intel is still good at productivity and budget CPUs. The hardware prices overall though...

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 днів тому +8

      Yeah it isn't really the price of the CPUs...its the whole platform cost that's gone crazy.

    • @robertcastanpn288
      @robertcastanpn288 15 днів тому +1

      ngl i thought amd had better budget due to intel motherboards being a bit pricy

    • @lbsheng2912
      @lbsheng2912 15 днів тому +1

      If you are serious about productivity, AMD has way better CPU to handle your need....

  • @MannequinSmiles
    @MannequinSmiles 16 днів тому

    need more games that have trouble hitting 60fps because they are so cpu demanding. dragons dogma 2 in the city and star citizen both need high end cpus just to touch 60fps no matter the graphics

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 днів тому +3

      Star Citizen is in eternal beta phase so I wouldn't use that as a bellwether for CPU performance. As for Dragon's Dogma 2, we don't have any experience with it but I'd hazard a guess that its a lot like the area where we test in BG3; there's a ton of NPC's in the city so the focus is put heavily on CPU performance.

    • @MannequinSmiles
      @MannequinSmiles 15 днів тому

      @@HardwareCanucks im just trying to think of any game that modern cpus struggle to hold 60 fps

  • @bloodrayneforever
    @bloodrayneforever 7 днів тому

    if i pair it with a 4070 super in 1440p playing mostly mmos (cpu demanding games) will i see any difference compare to 7800x3d?

  • @HawkBryant
    @HawkBryant 16 днів тому

    I think is the best gaming cpu in the future 2025.

  • @abaj006
    @abaj006 15 днів тому

    Intel needs to release an 8 p-core and Zero e-core Arrow Lake.

  • @korsame
    @korsame 14 днів тому

    where is the turbo setting in the taichi x870E board bios?

  • @A-BYTE64
    @A-BYTE64 15 днів тому

    My 5950X still going Hard

  • @darkness-j6f
    @darkness-j6f 6 днів тому

    I think you should test 2k too 9800x3d still better just not as much that large number but in 2k i think it stil big enough to consider.

  • @Marcus221179
    @Marcus221179 15 днів тому +1

    No Words to Overclock Function?

  • @Edgar-u8v9m
    @Edgar-u8v9m 15 днів тому

    For 1080p is the 9800x3d good for it

    • @The_Chad_
      @The_Chad_ 12 днів тому

      Great for it! Probably the best if it doesn't have stutter above 300fps like other Ryzen CPUs

  • @yoked391
    @yoked391 6 днів тому

    misleading, 720p LOW vs 1080p Max, why nopt 720p low vs 1080p low???

  • @lolmao500
    @lolmao500 13 днів тому

    Nobody used CUDIMM on the 9800X3D... or even tested it... who will be the first? Crazy that Avatar and Forza 5 in 720p are TWICE as fast as in 1080p... what the hell. And triple FPS in warhammer. wtf

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  11 днів тому

      Well in Warhammer 720p we use low settings which make the game look terrible...BUT those settings are there mostly to make the title as accessible as possible. Meanwhile at Ultra settings it looks amazing.

  • @LightSaber12345
    @LightSaber12345 15 днів тому +1

    Goodbye Intel. Hello AMD

  • @lordcustard-smythe-smith9153
    @lordcustard-smythe-smith9153 15 днів тому

    In vr sims where I'm using super sampling at well over 4k I guess my 7800x3d is going to be gpu limited for quite some time..... !

  • @rch5395
    @rch5395 15 днів тому

    Smt is better at doing a lot of small things. In games where you sometimes have big things to calculate, smt will bottleneck the core (atleast how I understand it).

  • @MrDutch1e
    @MrDutch1e 13 днів тому

    Gotta start using at least 7200 on Intel. It's not expensive and 6000 is a joke.

  • @Urxiel
    @Urxiel 16 днів тому

    Great review, thank you very much! I heard your warning about the turbo flag being enabled and how it regresses the FPS while playing Starfield. You have wasted your time even testing that game, imo. If somebody buys this CPU to play Starfield, then that person has a whole different set of psychological problems that need to be addressed first before they worry about FPS regressions.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  15 днів тому +1

      Personally, I quite enjoyed the time I spent on Starfield. It was only about 15 hours but I didn't mind it.

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 13 днів тому

      A lot of people liked Starfield. When it originally came out it reviewed very well. The hate campaign against it is a more modern thing, especially with the incredibly meh expansion.

  • @rye0428
    @rye0428 15 днів тому

    My 5700x3d is punching 285k in the mouth in other games!

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  15 днів тому

      Yeah, that was a shock to us.

    • @larsenmats
      @larsenmats 15 днів тому

      5700X3D looks very similar to the 9700x for gaming.