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  • @ramonzaions7522
    @ramonzaions7522 20 годин тому +61

    Came to papa 9800X3D! Now just wait for rtx5090!

    • @TopShot501st
      @TopShot501st 20 годин тому +6

      My wallet though...🫙

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  19 годин тому +26

      RIP your wallet. Especially with AM5 platform prices....

    • @TheLateral18
      @TheLateral18 19 годин тому +1

      @@ramonzaions7522 i want to have money like you

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  18 годин тому +19

      @@TheLateral18 I have two kids under 3 years old now. I have no money. - Mike

    • @heisenbug3542
      @heisenbug3542 15 годин тому +11

      ​@@HardwareCanucks I sold mine to afford the upgrade.
      The kids will do fine with their new master.

  • @JoselitoBurrito
    @JoselitoBurrito 19 годин тому +39

    Not only the information is beautifully and easily presented with fantastic graphs, but you also provide some of the best b-roll visuals ever. Those processor shots are stunning 👏🏻👏🏻

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  19 годин тому +3

      Thanks. Our intent is to show the maximum amount of information in a limited time but I'm always worried about adding too much and that causing the content to become less digestible. I'm happy we seem to have struck a good balance with this.

  • @TheLateral18
    @TheLateral18 20 годин тому +26

    The 5800x3d is one of the best CPUs ever made 👊 😤

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  19 годин тому +4

      Absolutely.

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 10 годин тому

      sad it runs at rather too low ghz for a highend pc, if you can oc it to 5ghz i think its just as good as 9800x3d

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 10 годин тому

      prob its am4 limitation though, to run at sub 4.5ghz

  • @korg47237
    @korg47237 20 годин тому +93

    I'm just happy my 5800X3D is going to be relevant for the foreseeable future.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  19 годин тому +30

      It absolutely will be. Like I said, its still the GOAT in my books - Mike

    • @simonb.8868
      @simonb.8868 18 годин тому +7

      it is not, it's already old

    • @macaronsuki3314
      @macaronsuki3314 18 годин тому +8

      The 5700X3D is better value for the price. Less than $200

    • @lovie74
      @lovie74 18 годин тому

      I have one too but, I was thinking of upgrading due to playing competitive shooters and mainly for tarkov lol. Tarkov is way too vcache/ram heavy.
      I wouldnt upgrade if I mainly played single player games but, I do play a lot of competitive shooters that are really cpu bound and never max out my 4090 so.

    • @macaronsuki3314
      @macaronsuki3314 18 годин тому

      @lovie74 You can take the Ryzen 7 9700X at $300. It will be enough and I think 32GB or ram 6000mhz at $100 is a good combo

  • @Kniazz
    @Kniazz 19 годин тому +19

    Thank you for testing Microsoft Flight Simulator!
    Reviewers rarely test those worst-case, VERY CPU-demanding scenarios, unfortunately.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  18 годин тому +10

      So here's the thing....Flight Simulator isn't CPU intensive. We're talking 5-10% at most. What it DOES do is seriously tax a single core since its engine doesn't seem to be multi-core aware. Hopefully the new version will change that.

    • @Kniazz
      @Kniazz 17 годин тому +7

      @@HardwareCanucks still CPU intensive in my book, since it makes CPU perform to it's limit.
      In this particular case this is a single threaded/single core limit. Which is still a common limiting factor even today, since usually even decently threaded games will not be able to load all cores equally. Which results in a single or two cores hitting 100% and thus becoming a bottleneck, while rest stays at like 75--80%.
      But you already know that.

    • @TheKazragore
      @TheKazragore 9 годин тому +1

      Paul's Hardware is the only other one I'm aware of.

  • @shwetankshukla
    @shwetankshukla 15 годин тому +2

    I liked the data presentation.. Best among all the reviews i have seen till now.

  • @charlesnix8314
    @charlesnix8314 19 годин тому +3

    Great video and tons of information, I thank you for the hard work you put into this. Sounds like the 9800X3D is a jack of trades but a master to gaming chip. Hope you feel better soon.

  • @wrathgaming2323
    @wrathgaming2323 8 годин тому +1

    Great review always can count on mike to bring the best reviews

  • @kur0tech1
    @kur0tech1 16 годин тому +1

    great review! thank you so much sir.

  • @ДмитрийЭль-р5з
    @ДмитрийЭль-р5з 13 годин тому

    Thank you, Mike. Waiting for new CPU cooler tests with 9800X3D. 🥰

  • @jessterman21
    @jessterman21 14 годин тому

    Great conclusion! And thanks for including both 5700X3D and 5800X3D because I waited too long and now the former is really the only option that makes sense. Good to know it's only around 8% slower in games.

  • @jamesm568
    @jamesm568 15 годин тому +2

    Current 5800X3D owner. I know I'm purchasing the 9800X3D first thing Thursday morning as I already purchased a X870P MB and 64GB 6400MT/s RAM. Not a bad upgrade for less than $1,000 coming from AM4. Probably upgrade to 8300MT/s RAM If it's beneficial.

  • @nifftwatkins3135
    @nifftwatkins3135 13 годин тому +7

    Enjoyed this review, thanks. Your point that the 720p results bode well for the future was insightful.

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon8320 28 хвилин тому

    Thanks for this very well done video.

  • @Tomiply
    @Tomiply 2 години тому +2

    I get testing 720p to show the performance difference, but nobody uses that. It's like showing how the 4090 runs at in 8K. It's like cool, but useless data. I would be much more interested in seeing 1440p data when it comes to CPU testing. Then you could see if the upgrade matters at all, for which games it matters, or if it's better to stay with something cheaper.

  • @VicharB
    @VicharB 18 годин тому

    Really good to see bump in Ghz, lower TDP/Temp and overall gain, though not substantial compared to 78--X3D, but still overall good package.. Will upgrade next year from my current 7700X running with 32GB/6400 CL32 along with 2TB Samsung 990 Pro & nVidia 3800Ti (hopefully will have budget to upgrade GPU as well).

  • @bes12000
    @bes12000 8 годин тому

    Based on the results im seeing from multiple reviewers from the 9800X3D, im very excited to see what the 9950X3D can do, hopefully it blows the doors off of everything.

  • @Jerome-iwnl
    @Jerome-iwnl 17 годин тому +2

    Imagine a 12 core, single CCD, X3D chip
    Then imagine Turbo mode on that (SMT OFF)
    You'll have 12 cores (and 12T) that are super powerful, while still having respectable multi threaded performance

    • @Dr.WhetFarts
      @Dr.WhetFarts 15 годин тому +1

      You won't see that. Next CCD core count step up is 16 cores and won't be ready before 2027-2028.

    • @Jerome-iwnl
      @Jerome-iwnl 14 годин тому +1

      @Dr.WhetFarts Yeah, I'm hoping Zen 6 would do that. We need more cores per CCD

  • @drewnewby
    @drewnewby 18 годин тому +4

    Mike, they all came to your video for 4K testing for some reason. Don't let them get to you, I play most games at 200p. Sure, they're DOS, but it's what it takes for that smooth 24 fps.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  18 годин тому +3

      Haha. Maybe they didn't see WHY we tested how we tested.

    • @drewnewby
      @drewnewby 18 годин тому +1

      They just want the graphs to be a completely vertical wall.

  • @icozmeq
    @icozmeq 3 години тому +1

    Who will play on 720p today with that piece of hardware? 720p tests are useless for years and i can't understand why reviewers continue to include them in testings?!?!?! Considering what kind of monitors are used for gaming this days!

  • @sannyye_
    @sannyye_ 13 годин тому +3

    Imagine complaining about the res of the benchmarks. Lmao 😂 lower res is better to show the full potential of the cpu. When gpus get stronger it will show the cpu being able to provide more performance

  • @SaschaRobitzki
    @SaschaRobitzki 6 годин тому

    Wow, it can play games just as good as any other CPU. Amazing.

  • @Ash-bx6kq
    @Ash-bx6kq 16 годин тому

    I appreciate the 720p low charts for CS2

  • @aaronlagomarsino7980
    @aaronlagomarsino7980 19 годин тому +1

    Thank you for running rocket league benchmarks!

  • @MakeSh00t
    @MakeSh00t 7 годин тому

    i love my 7800x3d but i will love even more when i will have 9950x3d it has dual ccd x3d cache
    :d I just wait for it ! :D

  • @BorisZakharov98
    @BorisZakharov98 5 годин тому

    I'm assuming a phantom spirit would be enough for this, but would like to see a test regardless. thanks for the videos.

  • @AvroBellow
    @AvroBellow 2 години тому

    I have an R7-5800X3D coupled with an RX 7900 XTX and 32GB of DDR4-3600 CL18.
    I probably won't feel any need to upgrade until AM6 comes along. 😁

  • @Jerome-iwnl
    @Jerome-iwnl 17 годин тому

    This new turbo mode looks promising. But will the results change if you have a bunch of browser tabs open along with Discord, spotify and other such apps? (Apps that people keep open while playing games)

  • @evilpotatoman9436
    @evilpotatoman9436 12 годин тому +3

    Its a great review actually, the 720p results are very helpful as they simulate the use of a 5090 later down the line.

    • @icozmeq
      @icozmeq 3 години тому

      Bullshit!

  • @PlasticPanorama
    @PlasticPanorama 11 годин тому

    Thank you for actually showing temperatures! The other reviews I've seen never showed or talked about them.

  • @Joshua_Uwadiae
    @Joshua_Uwadiae Годину тому

    This next GPU generation better be good

  • @philscomputerlab
    @philscomputerlab 20 годин тому

    Nice 😊

  • @darksolusion1
    @darksolusion1 16 годин тому +1

    Since you guys are Canadian reviewers, you should include Canadian pricing. Such a pain trying to find non-US pricing -_-"

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 годин тому +4

      That is the issue, we rarely if ever get CAD pricing prior to launch or even before items start appearing at retailers.

    • @kimochi33
      @kimochi33 15 годин тому

      It's okay. On the internet, unless mentioned, it's default to USD.
      Canadians are better. We can function in USD, pounds, feet, Fahrenheit

  • @qweety123
    @qweety123 19 годин тому +3

    Awesome stuff! Can we begin to add Diablo 4 to this list? Also, League of Legends (typically cpu bound) is rumored to update client for next year. :)

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  19 годин тому +1

      We've been looking to remove some titles and add others. However, I want to wait until 2025 to do that since there are some in-game security updates (which will require VBS enablement) and engine changes that might impact our choices.

  • @shane3x
    @shane3x 11 годин тому

    I have never purchased an amd cpu before, but Intel has really stopped the ball over the last few years so I think when the 5090 comes out I’ll be picking this up also.

  • @AD34534
    @AD34534 14 годин тому +2

    6:16 it's a wrap😂

  • @aeromotive2
    @aeromotive2 6 годин тому

    this thing is amazing. Will we be able to get one at msrp or what

  • @MrGeesikser
    @MrGeesikser 9 годин тому

    We went from Intel fighting with AMD to Intel fighting itself and losing bruh 😵‍💫

  • @Mutio86
    @Mutio86 18 годин тому +1

    Keeping my RAM and CPU cooler last year in February and going for a 5800X3D and B550 board seems to have been a VERY good decision (a friend bought my B450 board together with my 3700X). Especially considering I am gaming in 4K. Still the performance of the 9800X3D is outstanding.
    Also thank you for the well done and well made test! I've been following you guys since years now and I'm sure I'm not the only person from Germany here enjoying your content. Keep it up!

  • @someoldguyplays
    @someoldguyplays 2 години тому

    Damn, with this 9800x3d, AM5 longevity is pretty much guaranteed to at least match the AM4

  • @Urxiel
    @Urxiel 18 годин тому

    Great review, thank you very much! I heard your warning about the turbo flag being enabled and how it regresses the FPS while playing Starfield. You have wasted your time even testing that game, imo. If somebody buys this CPU to play Starfield, then that person has a whole different set of psychological problems that need to be addressed first before they worry about FPS regressions.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  17 годин тому +1

      Personally, I quite enjoyed the time I spent on Starfield. It was only about 15 hours but I didn't mind it.

  • @martinarscott3524
    @martinarscott3524 13 годин тому +3

    Looks like I'll be returning to AMD for the first time in over 20yrs, though waiting to see what the 9950X3D brings before taking the plunge....

  • @Jerome-iwnl
    @Jerome-iwnl 17 годин тому

    Turbo mode 1% lows look insanely good

  • @MadridistaFrieren
    @MadridistaFrieren 20 годин тому +3

    Inalillahi Intel 🙏
    Mike we need more cooler review and more cooler round up.

  • @graysonpeddie
    @graysonpeddie 11 годин тому

    I plan on waiting on the 9950X3D so I can do content creation and gaming in Linux.

  • @PureRushXevus
    @PureRushXevus 46 хвилин тому

    2:49 hehe you can hear the keyboard as you go through the presentation :p

  • @oggeman00
    @oggeman00 17 годин тому +3

    Great video, but I don't understand why 720p is relevant. Since 1080p is the most common resolution, that should serve as the base. This can then be compared with 1440p. Or am I missing something here?

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 годин тому +2

      It isn't about popularity. Its about removing bottlenecks so the CPUs can largely stand on their own.

    • @anatolpiotrowski9728
      @anatolpiotrowski9728 14 годин тому +2

      ​@HardwareCanucks We would like to know if 9800x3d makes sense for resolutions higher than 1080p. Is my money better spent on 9700x if I use 1440p monitor?

    • @martinarscott3524
      @martinarscott3524 13 годин тому

      @@anatolpiotrowski9728 valid point, I game at 4k cos I mostly play open world rpg type stuff and like my visuals, but I'm still curious what cpu upgrade is most worthwhile to me, especially as my 10600K is due for replacement after Christmas....I understand why 1080p is used predominantly, but just a brief bit of 4k comparison would be much appreciated

    • @lbsheng2912
      @lbsheng2912 9 годин тому +2

      ​@@martinarscott3524it will still be 9800X3D because the huge cache makes the 1% frame more stable..

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 7 годин тому

      Cuz when you are benchmarking cpu you never ever want any other hardware aside the cpu to be bottlenecked ,

  • @A-BYTE64
    @A-BYTE64 15 годин тому

    My 5950X still going Hard

  • @Vermilicious
    @Vermilicious 20 годин тому +12

    Nvidia is taking the high end GPU throne, while AMD is taking the high end gaming CPU throne. I suppose Intel is still good at productivity and budget CPUs. The hardware prices overall though...

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  19 годин тому +8

      Yeah it isn't really the price of the CPUs...its the whole platform cost that's gone crazy.

    • @robertcastanpn288
      @robertcastanpn288 17 годин тому +1

      ngl i thought amd had better budget due to intel motherboards being a bit pricy

    • @lbsheng2912
      @lbsheng2912 9 годин тому +1

      If you are serious about productivity, AMD has way better CPU to handle your need....

  • @necromancer1970
    @necromancer1970 14 годин тому +4

    New x870e board + 64g ddr already here, 9800x3d will be bought tomorrow.
    Finally my 4090 Strix can stretch its legs (and my 5800x3d goes into another rig). And now waiting for 5090...will be an awesome combo.

  • @marcm.
    @marcm. 3 години тому

    13:08 not only silicon lottery. AMD isn't just binning these chips heavily, I suspect very much, that the v cash is making them more efficient, and therefore you have benefits from that too

  • @gw7624
    @gw7624 13 годин тому

    If I was building an AM5 system now, I'd get a 7800X3D and wait for Zen 6. The performance increase isn't worth the power gain IMO.

  • @HawkBryant
    @HawkBryant 19 годин тому

    I think is the best gaming cpu in the future 2025.

  • @Edgar-u8v9m
    @Edgar-u8v9m 3 години тому

    Should I upgrade my 7800x3d for the new 9800x3d

  • @shadowarez1337
    @shadowarez1337 20 годин тому +1

    Wait for the 9950x3D prey it has duel V-cache 🙏

    • @thetheoryguy5544
      @thetheoryguy5544 20 годин тому +1

      Bruh.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  19 годин тому +3

      I think the 9800X3D will be the "sweet spot" for gamers for price vs performance. Remember, the dual CCD designs still have some hiccups in consistency from one game to another, to the point where the 9700X / 9600X can match or beat them overall.

    • @shadowarez1337
      @shadowarez1337 18 годин тому +1

      @HardwareCanucks I was hoping they'd try something different this gen maybe next gen well have a 16c CCD for the 10800x3d.

    • @Dr.WhetFarts
      @Dr.WhetFarts 14 годин тому

      9950X3D will be pointless for gamers, just like 7950X3D. 7800X3D beats it overall. Single CCD chips is better for gaming.

    • @shadowarez1337
      @shadowarez1337 12 годин тому

      @Dr.WhetFarts hence why with cache changes I'd hoped they'd ironed that out but I suppose they have no reason to make something new until there is a reason to try instead of slapping new # on the box.

  • @nelsonr.9450
    @nelsonr.9450 19 годин тому +1

    I'm between the 5950x and the 5800x3D 😭 to pair with a rx 6800 xt (am4)
    I'm a gamer, but I want to edit, code, encode and much more...
    I know, one is better for gaming and the other for the rest...
    Should I get another cpu?
    Help, anyone... 😢

    • @razor19829
      @razor19829 17 годин тому +1

      if you already have good am4 mobo,go with 5900x,5950x is to expensive for 2020 cpu,5900x you can encode edit and decent gaming experience,better than 5800x3d for multitasking,just give it at least 32gig and good nvme

    • @larsenmats
      @larsenmats 14 годин тому +1

      Instead go for a much cheaper 5700X3D.

    • @TheKazragore
      @TheKazragore 8 годин тому

      ​@@razor19829or get the 5900XT potebtially. It's just a foenclocked cheaper 5950X.

  • @Edgar-u8v9m
    @Edgar-u8v9m 3 години тому

    For 1080p is the 9800x3d good for it

  • @Marcus221179
    @Marcus221179 12 годин тому +1

    No Words to Overclock Function?

  • @superpandabacon
    @superpandabacon 6 годин тому +1

    720p results are purely academic. No one will ever play at that res realistically. But I’m glad it uses just a little more power than my 5800x3d. I hope it doesn’t get too warm when I put it in my Fractal Ridge.

  • @AlwaysBusyGuy
    @AlwaysBusyGuy 19 годин тому +1

    @HardwareCanucks hi, can you test this with a Noctua low profile and Thermalright axp 90 x53 please

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  18 годин тому +1

      We might look into that. ;)

    • @AlwaysBusyGuy
      @AlwaysBusyGuy 15 годин тому

      @@HardwareCanucks thank you sir, : ) looking forward to it. 🫡

  • @snap8386
    @snap8386 11 годин тому

    Damn dude, AMD names already are pretty difficult to understand, you could explain that the first one was repeated just to Add Turbo or you could just give the same name to R7 9800X3D and the Plus Turbo.

  • @kavibaig8363
    @kavibaig8363 16 годин тому

    Does it make sense to pair this CPU with my 4080 Super?
    I game at 1440p UW
    Using a a 5800X3D currently

    • @bobbybob6597
      @bobbybob6597 16 годин тому

      Makes sense

    • @Dr.WhetFarts
      @Dr.WhetFarts 14 годин тому

      Yes, if you have 144 Hz minimum.

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 7 годин тому

      Yes but not worth upgrading from your 5800x3d. unless you are extremely competitive player who have 360hz monitor or you mostly play cpu hog games like flight sim, cities skylines, teardown, beamng drive (with tons of traffic), basically any tycoon, management, flight simulator, large scale strategy, and physics heavy games.

  • @oswaldjh
    @oswaldjh 15 годин тому

    The 7800x3d wasn't a good upgrade from my 5800x3d due to a complete platform change.
    This 9800x3d might be enough of a uplift to justify the $1K upgrade to AM5.
    Since most initial numbers are when paired with a 4090, I'll wait to see what the benchmark is on my card, RTX 4070 TI Super.

    • @Dr.WhetFarts
      @Dr.WhetFarts 14 годин тому

      5800X3D to 9800X3D is for sure a nice upgrade.

    • @larsenmats
      @larsenmats 14 годин тому

      @@Dr.WhetFarts For gaming I don't think so. People with mid to higher end graphics cards play at 1440p or 4K with higher settings. There would be little to no difference for gaming. For productivity stuff or gaming at 720p/1080p low settings, sure there is a difference 🤣

  • @MannequinSmiles
    @MannequinSmiles 19 годин тому

    need more games that have trouble hitting 60fps because they are so cpu demanding. dragons dogma 2 in the city and star citizen both need high end cpus just to touch 60fps no matter the graphics

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  19 годин тому +3

      Star Citizen is in eternal beta phase so I wouldn't use that as a bellwether for CPU performance. As for Dragon's Dogma 2, we don't have any experience with it but I'd hazard a guess that its a lot like the area where we test in BG3; there's a ton of NPC's in the city so the focus is put heavily on CPU performance.

    • @MannequinSmiles
      @MannequinSmiles 13 годин тому

      @@HardwareCanucks im just trying to think of any game that modern cpus struggle to hold 60 fps

  • @rye0428
    @rye0428 17 годин тому

    My 5700x3d is punching 285k in the mouth in other games!

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 годин тому

      Yeah, that was a shock to us.

    • @larsenmats
      @larsenmats 14 годин тому

      5700X3D looks very similar to the 9700x for gaming.

  • @abaj006
    @abaj006 9 годин тому

    Intel needs to release an 8 p-core and Zero e-core Arrow Lake.

  • @omegajvn1
    @omegajvn1 9 годин тому

    (puts feet up in in recliner) Ahhhhhhhhhh my 5800X3D is doing just fine at 1440p lol

  • @ignacioaltamirano9273
    @ignacioaltamirano9273 15 годин тому +1

    720p It is the absolute truth, there is no more truth than 720p low, congratulations, finally someone who knows how to do benchmarks.

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 7 годин тому +1

      Yeah because it is to make sure there are zero cpu bottleneck , cuz some games still gpu bound at 1080p unless you use dlss or fsr ultra performance maybe

  • @LightSaber12345
    @LightSaber12345 16 годин тому

    Goodbye Intel. Hello AMD

  • @lordcustard-smythe-smith9153
    @lordcustard-smythe-smith9153 14 годин тому

    In vr sims where I'm using super sampling at well over 4k I guess my 7800x3d is going to be gpu limited for quite some time..... !

  • @policeman5768
    @policeman5768 20 годин тому

    Why there is no 265k test results !!!. Really need to compare these 2 cpu's

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  19 годин тому

      We actually don't have a 265K on-hand.

    • @johnlong6197
      @johnlong6197 7 годин тому

      Simple answer core 265k is a waste of money and no contest.

  • @stupidmirul
    @stupidmirul 17 годин тому

    Made in Malaysia 🎉🎉🎉

  • @supersonicgood
    @supersonicgood 9 годин тому +2

    Still prefer Ultra 7 265k, sorry AMD.

  • @kunka592
    @kunka592 11 годин тому

  • @Jerome-iwnl
    @Jerome-iwnl 17 годин тому

    I play at 4K (with DLSS)
    I have a Ryzen 5600 and 3080ti
    I wonder if the 5800X3D = 9800X3D at 4K DLSS

    • @HazeCat
      @HazeCat 16 годин тому

      @@Jerome-iwnl should be pretty close

  • @randomstuff1144
    @randomstuff1144 14 годин тому

    how good is ID-cooling 360 INF? (amd)

  • @Mr11ESSE111
    @Mr11ESSE111 13 годин тому +1

    720p are stupid now to show!1 maybe 5-6 years ago but even then everyone abandon that because nobody dont use it anyway so you must go from 1080p because otherwise why not then 480 or 240p too and difference could/will be bigger

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  13 годин тому +1

      No, it is precisely what we SHOULD show in order to distinguish one CPU from another. Next you'll ask for what? Using a mid-tier CPU when benchmarking GPUs? You also forget that we tested at 1080p Ultra and those results are right there in every chart.

    • @Mr11ESSE111
      @Mr11ESSE111 10 годин тому

      @HardwareCanucks you can distinguish it on 480p too then!!but point of story is nobody dont use it just like on 720p !!1080p is minimum now and only available with 360 -500hz refresh rate monitors just likwe 1440p while 720p monitors not so unless you downsize resolution but then you have garbage pixelated picture

  • @anatolpiotrowski9728
    @anatolpiotrowski9728 14 годин тому

    Wish we had some 1440p FPS. Is this 9800x3d only faster for 1080p? Are there any benefits over 9700x at 1440p ?

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  14 годин тому

      No, there really wouldn't be in most games. Unless you play FPS games like CS2, etc.

  • @amigatommy7
    @amigatommy7 17 годин тому

    Only a 670E board for the 9800x3d??

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  16 годин тому

      What do you mean by "only"? X870E brings nothing new to the table for CPU performance.

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 7 годин тому

      Motherboard never affect cpu performance UNLESS it struggling to deliver the electricity to the cpu or having massive ram compatibility issues

  • @rch5395
    @rch5395 16 годин тому

    Smt is better at doing a lot of small things. In games where you sometimes have big things to calculate, smt will bottleneck the core (atleast how I understand it).

  • @robgrenzeback3425
    @robgrenzeback3425 9 годин тому

    HUB suspects that the IO die holds back zen 5 performance.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  9 годин тому

      I'd love to hear their explanation about why that would be...especially on single CCD models.

  • @revog7
    @revog7 16 годин тому

    whyyyyyy 720ppp. do 1080/1440p the 2 common resolutions. also mix in all of 5000 cpus since most people are still on the 56/58/59/5800x3D. having to play leap frog for correlated data is quite annoying.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  14 годин тому +2

      We're benchmarking CPUs here. Imagine the outrage if we had tested the RTX 4090 on a 5600X because that CPU was "more common"...

    • @revog7
      @revog7 13 годин тому

      ​@@HardwareCanucks the benchmarks showed tons of cpus that people dont own so their is no relative to what they own aside from the few that have the 5800x3D which performs well outside of the 5000 lineup. I've watched every video that came out today and trying to play extrapolate to a 5900x is like pulling teeth the closest estimate i can come up with is a random 5800x in a GN video at 1080p to rough guess 30-65% improvement at 1080 which will probably be sliced in half at 1440p which is more relevant today than ever. To me and most people it does no good to show 1 performance metric to only theorize another because no one is willing to test it and most comparison videos of gameplay are made up. So idk maybe 1440p is a minority 4k definitely is.

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 7 годин тому

      ​@@revog7how you supposed to know what cpu able to give if your gpu holding it back?, trust me if you play any new aaa games at 1440p high to max settings you cannot see the difference at all with any mid to high end cpu released in the last 2 years

    • @revog7
      @revog7 6 годин тому

      @@mrbobgamingmemes9558 i have a 4080....

  • @TheRealFenwick
    @TheRealFenwick 12 годин тому +1

    Using 720p…. Really bro? The just unrealistic test of all time

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  11 годин тому +1

      No, it's not

    • @TheRealFenwick
      @TheRealFenwick 11 годин тому

      @ relative real world performance. Great , you can show 720p benchmarks to get rid off any gpu bottleneck .
      However 720p is completely unrealistic for real world performance.

  • @br-fitness
    @br-fitness 17 годин тому

    Intel need to create a whole new architecture they are so far behind on efficiency

  • @rch5395
    @rch5395 16 годин тому

    Plz benchmark minecraft 🙏

  • @mrbukhari369
    @mrbukhari369 9 годин тому +1

    BROTHER WHO WILL BUT THIS 9800X3D AND RTX 4090 FOR 720P AND 1080P GAMING ?

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  9 годин тому

      It isn't about who would use it for high resolution gaming. It's about showing which CPU is fastest.

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 7 годин тому

      To make sure the cpu ahow its potential on every single games tested. cpu Benchmark at 1440p or higher on new games with 4090 is like putting 140 km/h speed limiter on a 1000 hp hypercar

  • @Mr11ESSE111
    @Mr11ESSE111 13 годин тому

    next time 480p too because hmm

  • @fffhunter7765
    @fffhunter7765 12 годин тому

    only 1080p tests .......................

  • @CatdaddyM
    @CatdaddyM 12 годин тому

    Every single review video, be it from Gamers Nexus to Jayztwocents and others are NOT showing benchmark results for resolutions above 1080! The only person who did was Linus and the jig was up! The results show literally 1-2 fps increase over the 7800x3D in most games!
    Show us the benchmark results of games at 2K and above with FP ray tracing.. guarantee it performs more or less to 7800x3D. Why is every single video focusing on 1080 resolution? (Who even games at 1080 res anymore!) Is this a united propaganda against Intel?

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  11 годин тому

      No crap. At 1440p you run smack into a GPU bottleneck.

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 7 годин тому

      CUZ IF YOU TESTING AT 1440P YOU ARE NO LONGER ALLOWING THE CPU TO SHOW ITS POTENTIAL unless you play 10 years old game or older

    • @CatdaddyM
      @CatdaddyM Годину тому

      @@mrbobgamingmemes9558 IF YOU TEST WHILE EVERYTHING ELSE IS CETERUS PARIBUS MEANING ALL OTHER COMPONENTS ARE THE SAME THEN SURELY YOU’D GET DIFFERENT VARIANCE THAN THE VARIANCE OF TESTING IN 1080 WHICH THEREFORE MEANS THERE WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE! GPU BOTTLE NECK MY FOOT! PLEASE RUN THE TESTS AT 1440 AND HIGHER AND PROVE ME WRONG @HardwareCanucks

  • @nyyra
    @nyyra 7 годин тому

    5:39 i stopped the video after hearing this. i mean what the hell... this rivals tiktok levels of brainrot.

  • @JYMBO
    @JYMBO 15 годин тому

    I understand that this is the new GAMING king, but i want to do more than just game on my PC, i want to Edit Video, i want to do Music Production, i want to Stream etc, obviously the best option is to buy a second productivity pc for that stuff but if you only have the budget for 1 build, i'm not sure if this is the best "All-Round" option

    • @lbsheng2912
      @lbsheng2912 9 годин тому +1

      Wait for 9950X3D...

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 7 годин тому

      This is meant for gaming but light to moderate productivity, if you want both just pick 16 core x3d chip

  • @AKG58Z
    @AKG58Z 16 годин тому +1

    I would not go over 5800x3d right now.

  • @raphlow
    @raphlow 11 годин тому +1

    So many people arguing that 720 is irrelevant in 2024, guys this is a ******* benchmark video, a few years from now when games start getting heavier on the CPU side (hopefully not too soon), these 720p numbers will be reflected in higher resolutions

  • @LamborghiniBrotha1
    @LamborghiniBrotha1 20 годин тому

    Im addicted to “Ray Tracing “…so I’ll need to find those results.👍🏽

  • @EbonKim
    @EbonKim 20 годин тому +5

    I guess AMD didn't want you to review games benchmarks at 1440P and 4K. Who spends $500 on a CPU for gaming performance at 1080P, unless you're a contender at an eSports game who plays at 1080P and lower settings?

    • @jonathanayotte9331
      @jonathanayotte9331 20 годин тому +11

      It’s the best way to bench mark raw performance without bottle necks

    • @EbonKim
      @EbonKim 19 годин тому

      @jonathanayotte9331 Yeah, how will we know if a CPU is bottlenecking a CPU at higher resolutions, without higher resolution benchmarks? Oh, because Gamers Nexus did for the 7800X3D, but not for the 9800X3D. And yeah, the 13700K beat the 7800X3D most of the time at 1440P.

    • @chinesesparrows
      @chinesesparrows 19 годин тому +1

      Low rez exposes the CPU bottleneck better. At higher rez the GPU will more likely be the bottleneck. But I agree some reference numbers for everyday users could be useful

    • @EbonKim
      @EbonKim 19 годин тому

      @@chinesesparrows Exactly. And if I ask what's most important for gaming, the CPU or GPU, what's the answer? The GPU.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  19 годин тому +7

      We don't benchmark high end GPUs with a mid-range CPU just like we don't benchmark CPUs at higher resolutions. Its important to remove as many barriers as possible so actual performance differentiations can be made. This is a CPU review, not a GPU review. I'm putting this in context so its easy to understand why we do what we do... - Mike

  • @tab6095
    @tab6095 8 годин тому

    Come on with these reviews and these decade old resolutions…. Who runs a $1500 card with a $300 monitor???

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  7 годин тому

      That's not the point.

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 6 годин тому

      Testing cpu on realistic gaming scenario is like putting 140km/h speed limiter on 1000 hp hypercar. Cpu test have to be done with unrealistic or niche gaming scenario

  • @Tsuki9847
    @Tsuki9847 6 годин тому

    Wich Mobo should I choose? Every MOBO have this piece of shit "Laning Share" and I dont want this. I want more than 2 NVME and dont lose my x16 GPU.

  • @NecroMoz
    @NecroMoz 18 годин тому

    Why is no-one doing 4k benchmarks for Pete's sake. We know the gap between X and X3D vanishes at 4k, let's see it.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  18 годин тому +3

      Because this is a CPU review, not a GPU review. Its the same reason why we test GPUs with the highest end CPU possible; we don't want one to intrude onto the performance of the other.

  • @raminpro9765
    @raminpro9765 9 годин тому

    HHHHHHHHHardware chunks,,,please change bench charts,,,unredable,,,make them like tomshardware

  • @Ryhillchibulls
    @Ryhillchibulls 19 годин тому

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