I wonder if he's still using AI to do it. I remember when he first started using it I couldn't even tell and it freaked me out because it looked and sounded so natural.
The cat test really is a revolutionary upgrade that no other reviewer is doing. Gamers nexus would be well advised to also include this in their future reviews. They have a suitable member of staff for it too
I miss her on screen contributions too, Snowflake used to host a lot of Reviews when the Studio/Office was at the house but I guess since the move to the Office Space as CEO she is busy doing behind the Scenes stuff.
In the future, I'd love to see a more robust overclocking guide for these chips. I'm really considering doing direct die cooling for the 9800X3D and pushing it to the limit
I have to recommend Scatter Bencher's channel. I hope Roman doesn't mind mentioning his "colleague" in arms, since they both do amazing jobs. And SB also provides extremely detailed step-by-step setup how he accomplishes the OC's, which is amazing/exhausting(just like GN Steve :) ) And yeah, I am seriously considering the Mycro now, as this seems to be really worth it, especially with the OC being legit option, not just BCLK/eCLK as on 7800X3D
All 3 of y'all, just stay outta my way at launch tmrw, and we won't have issues, kapeesh? (My cpu is dead, and I really just need the X3D to turn on my new system)
@@GSP-76 Performance wise? Maybe, if you use it meaningfully. Financially... it is up to you. I will be upgrading from 7600, so I think the uplift will be significant, but for you the difference will be ... not so noticable. But that would require new board(MSI Pro B650M-A Wifi isn't exactly the top performer), but I will give it a shot... For X3D it might suffice.
@@nerdynumen Don't worry, first I will have to save for the CPU itself, then for delider and block... so maybe in 3 months I might even start to consider buying the CPU... Time to get ahead of everyone in the meaningless 3Dmark ranks again... 1st place with my "rusty" 6800XT isn't enough!
Simulation games like FS2020 saw a 20% bump to average FPS and 24% bump to 1% lows compared to the 7800X3D. Edit: Tom's Hardware review shows the FS2020 charts, my replies seem to have vanished.
That's it. This seals the deal. My next gaming PC will use 9800X3D! (Haven't owned one for years, due to RL financial situation, but things are better now and I'm saving up!)
Just bear in mind that the gpu is far more important and the performance of the 9800x3d would be highly dictated by the gpu. Never buy an expensive cpu and then skimp out on a gpu like a lot of rookie pc users. Pc's are a very very expensive investment and becomes outdated very quickly. Im waiting 12 months to see if intel can respond to this AMD slaughter 😂
@@prussell890 The CPU definitely helps in simulation games, Unreal 5 games (which everyone seems to be switching to), or Capcom's games like Dragon's Dogma 2 and Monster Hunter Wilds. Also depending on how old the cpu is (I had an i5 4690K with a GTX 1080), upgrading the GPU may not make a difference in framerate in new games because they are more CPU heavy. I could crank the graphics up to high but be getting the same 20-30fps as on low settings because CPU was at 100% usage. Needed a whole platform upgrade to update CPU to 7800X3D, so still had a GTX 1080 for a year but doubled my FPS.
@Revan_7even yes in your situation its 100% worth it if you upgrade to a high end gpu. Unreal 5 is horribly optimized if im right in thinking. I was thinking of changing to AMD but I wont see any serious gains from my current i7 14700k and 4080 super. My i7 14700k is still a very fast cpu
That is a huge boost, if it's casually achievable without direct-die as well. But damn... I've been wanting to do direct-die for years, and this might be the one. It is just such a cool CPU in terms of features and innovations culminating over time.
Gotta say it's better than I expected. Still only like around 10% uplift, but if you're ready to spend some coins you can delid it and push it another 10%.
Yeah but also while eliminating vcaches non gaming downsides too so this time you're getting the fastest 8 cores for everything not just gaming Hell even for gaming if you're playing esport type games and using high polling rate peripherals you'll be getting the non gaming performance improvement there, which is like 30% and seeing 8k polling rate mice are so taxing, that extra performance is needed
I'm absolutely delighted to see your cats again. I've really missed not having them in every video and I can only say it's unacceptable. When people have animals they should be seen and I'm glad you had them in this content. thank you.
Hey Roman, one small addition I personally would like to see in these comparisons is the calculated ratio of frames/watt or watts/frame. Obviously I can pause the video and run the numbers on my phone calculator pretty easily, but it does interrupt the flow of the video. For me, seeing those ratios expressed numerically is a quick and easy way of cataloging the performance in my brain; seeing it and hearing you discuss it in those terms would help simplify the information for me and other people like me! Thanks, and great content as always!
It would be nice to se you do a deep dive on different thermal compounds when delidding - liquid metal as usual, your KryoSheets, ptm7950, perhaps even some regular thermal paste. Like, focusing on engineering, material science, and longevity - it's great when you go into the nitty-gritty details. A video of that kind could skip all the gaming benchmarks, but of course do a synthetic all-core load like Cinebench to show the temperature differences of the different compounds. Would be interesting if you also add your high-performance heat spreader and talk about differences in thermal compound between the HPHS and cooler.
If buffing the die seems necessary for liquid metal reliability perhaps you could include simple die stencils with the delidding tool to help protect the PCB. Uploading stencil files for different generations that we could 3D print or trace onto thin cardboard would be really cool as well. This is finally becoming what we've hoped X3D could be. We may even see them integrate cache into the main Zen 6 lineup now. Intel really has an uphill battle ahead of them...
Now that the processors with 3d cache are unlocked, it will be interesting to see the performance of the 9900x3d and 9950x3d. Maybe this closes the gap that the 3d models of the 7000 line had in games.
I cannot wait to delid and watercool one of these new x3d chips, being able to add more power and cool the cores properly is amazing news. Really tempted to way for a 9950x3d though!
Unboxing, review + testing, delidding with polishing + direct die tests and "Thermal Grizzly" cats intermission😁all done in 18 mins!👍👍That's why I like your reviews! 9800X3D has certainly delivered on all fronts mainly by putting V-Cache underneath compute die, congrats AMD for creating best gaming CPU!👏Intel should be jealous, efficiency is truly superb! Only thing I am missing with these high end gaming CPUs is support of max DDR5 RAM speeds of 8800 MT. Not sure why they go with max 5600 MT in this case or 6400 MT with Intel.
Thank you for the excellent video. Clear, direct, and very informative. I almost wish I had not seen the performance and temperature benefits from delidding the CPU, because that is not something I think I can do myself. I am new to this channel, but you don't talk about what kind of cooler you use for the delidded CPU. It would be very interesting to see what are the limits that can be done for performance for a delidded CPU, with performance tuning of wattage, speed, timings, and memory optimization. In the end, I will probably end up getting a 9800 X3D to replace my aging 5600 X3D system, that is going to move to the backup system. I am going to wait though for prices and availability. Thanks again for a great video!
That's it-a cat test in a CPU review. Finally, a bold UA-camr did it! Take that, Steve. I mean, he probably already did it too; that man posts way too many videos!
This is one the best thing about AMD , they will always keep trying to overcome difficulties and bring joy to HIGH TECH folks like us , no matter how hard they fall , the engineers always took the challenge serious and make it happen , thank you guys .
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator AMD has CPU, Console, GPU and custom SOC which is why they look big but they have (36k staff) 6.82 billion profit, yet despite all that Intel (130k staff) has CPU and a GPU department, but also they have FAB's 13.28 billion profit.
@@Dazzxp Yeah. AMD sales are big ONLY on desktop CPU`s for end users. OEM`s, corporations, server farms - mostly intel. Their position of a somewhat monopoly for consoles and handhelds is simply unchanged (cause intel cant, for the love of god, give its igpu`s enough watts to work normally and not throttle to hell due to cpu package power limits).
Can we expect the coming 9950x3D to have a major uplift in productivity tools (like compression/decompression)? The gaming performance is nice, but I am left wanting more from the non-gaming performance. Should I wait for that new chip or just get this one?
Really good to see bump in base Ghz, lower TDP/Temp and overall gain, though not substantial compared to 7800X3D, but still overall good package.. Will upgrade next year from my current 7700X running with 32GB/6400 CL32 along with 2TB Samsung 990 Pro & nVidia 3800Ti (hopefully will have budget to upgrade GPU as well).
Hi Roman. Please do an introductory video about delidding and direct-die cooling using TG's products and the 9800X3D, explaining the how to do it from scratch, giving tips and tricks when applicable, the tools needed, as well as any other information. The 9800X3D is worthy of it, you make an informative promotional video of TGs products, and we, PC builders who've never done this but would like to get into it now, get a reliable tutorial. Everybody wins.
I say "no thanks" to those new features. I already hate when the titles are automatically changed. I pretty much prefer creators who pays real translators to provide good old subtitles than any of those automated stuffs following the AI trend.
@@PainterVierax whether you hate it or not google doesn't care. they need to justify the billions of dollars they're spending on AI and we get to be their guinea pigs.
Is because of the warranty, there would be a lot of room for people screwing things up and calling for RMA. But as you, I wish there would be a more straight forward way to get a delided, functional cpu as this or the 9950x3d when is out.
If it has a cache bank per ccd or eliminates previous gen latency issues in some other way, AND is overclockable like this chip, it will likely fly off the shelves.
@@temporaltomato3021 Yes but at the same time i wish there was a productivity chip with bigger better L1 and L2 cache . This way everyone would benefit and not only the gamers .
Direct die with curve optimizer - 30 or +30 all cores etc test maybe be veru interesting, if have time play with processor. End thanks best english language pc channel on YT.
I got my 9800X3D on order, sadly I live in Canada and our postal service is on strike currently, so I probably won't see my CPU until after that's all done, but upgrading from the 5800X3D, I'm looking forward to the performance and efficiency gain! Next I will just need to save up for a used 4000 series GPU to make this computer truly efficient, as I run an RTX 3080 right now
Can you use the same heatspreader from 7800x3d for the 9800x3d? I am thinking of buying the 9950x3d upgrading from 7800x3d. I delidded and put the heatspreader with the waterblock and was disappointed that the chip was locked at 5.05Ghz. I want to also change my asus 670e motherboard for a motherboard that allows e clock overclock and other overclocking features.
Would enjoy seeing the block getting removed after such puddles of LM, sure you know your stuff, no doubt. I just apply it very differently. Would suck that fresh extra LM back in the syringe aswell, directing the needle lumen towards the bottom of the LM applied. I prepare the surfaces of a die and cooler base (identical area as a die), by massaging the surface with a Q-tip and some force, with approximately 1-2mm drop of LM. It saturates the surfaces "chemically" or what so ever, then can quite generously squeeze LM on top to make a wiggly puddle while spreading it fully. The last step is to suck back in the excess amounts of LM, leaving a kind of very thin surfaces of LM on both the die+cooler surfaces. And now it is time to connect them together. Done LM installations some 15years too, and changed the way of applying to this by some notes done by myself. It's rather hassle free imo, due to normal way of doing and the nature of LM being like a liquid magnet lol. Also scraping the surfaces gently with some 1000-2000 grit sanding paper. Just some light sanding to make surfaces change to a matte finish, LM "connects" way better and easier spreading.
Re: Intel memory speeds, I didn't request the change, but my ideal setup would be: Choose a *price competitive* memory kit that allows Intel to leverage the better IMC, and just make sure to call out that's what you did. Using a super fast, very expensive kit is a bit unfair, but if you can get a kit that's faster but perhaps with looser timings for the same price, and that works out to be faster, then Intel should be shown with that advantage, because users would make that same choice (at least if they're informed users who watch your videos :D )
hmmmm I can't wait to see proper OC ing deep dives on this part also very curious to see what the higher core count X3D parts can do and just generally how they perform great job brother on this review.... also with your wall decorations theres a cool looking product just released that may be a good addition the GN dice set you'd have to check the dimensions of course
By standard of the last 5-7 years 400mhz is a huge gain and normally I would be concerned but your not only water cooled but delided and the temps and just glorious. Inb4 someone tries to daily at 5.8ghz+. Now maybe on a 9950x3d with the peak grade of silicon quality but I don’t think the lil 8 cores are getting the best silicon, more like B grade and nothing worse. Won’t know for sure until a bunch of us have them and we make a community chart but it seems like anything at or under 1.35v may actually be game again for Ryder.
Cats! Delidding!! Overclocking!!! I swear it's the best 9800x3D review so far!!!!!
This review does have some special approaches which is nice, and usual with DerBauer.
I don't know. Steve (HUB) relaxing on a couch was pretty amazing.
He is The Builder for a reason (that's what "Der Bauer" translates to).
It means you haven't watched Skatterbencher's 9800x3D overclock video yet. :)
Still have the 7900x on my x670e hero and won't upgrade yet
Can we give this guy some mad props for uploading the same 2 videos every time, oce in German and then again in English. Impressive youtuber.
profit twice from the same subject, this is why bilingualism is important no matter the language.
If the outcome of the war was slightly different we would only have 1 😉
I wonder if he's still using AI to do it. I remember when he first started using it I couldn't even tell and it freaked me out because it looked and sounded so natural.
Not really because german people wont watch english, its 2 different demographics. Hes simply broadening his audience@@thatguy5801
Thank you for being the only one who still does overclocking and delidding, and especially on DAY ONE. Super appreciated!
that's useless though. archaïc
dude polished the cpu... like whaaaa thats 100
The cat test requires at least 6 cats to be accurate
When you can herd 6 cats. When you can herd 3 cats: You let us know. 😂
or a litter of kittens
I agree
Don't give Roman any ideas...
Proper purrreviewing is important!
The cat test really is a revolutionary upgrade that no other reviewer is doing. Gamers nexus would be well advised to also include this in their future reviews. They have a suitable member of staff for it too
Snowflake up to the task!
It's always difficult to schedule time for the CEO to contribute to reviews, but it really pays off
I forgot they had a cat and thought you meant one of their staff was a fursuiter
I miss her on screen contributions too, Snowflake used to host a lot of Reviews when the Studio/Office was at the house but I guess since the move to the Office Space as CEO she is busy doing behind the Scenes stuff.
does Pat Gelsinger do benchmarking? then how do you expect Steve to get his CEO to do it?
I watched 3 other reviews - then came here because "It's der8auer, of course he's going to OC" which is all I wanted to know about.
true!
FR THO
Only he do the deliding, I know normal user dont delid but I still very curious to see
SkatterBemcher has a great oc guide from novice to advanced. FYI
i came here 'cause of cats
In the future, I'd love to see a more robust overclocking guide for these chips. I'm really considering doing direct die cooling for the 9800X3D and pushing it to the limit
I have to recommend Scatter Bencher's channel. I hope Roman doesn't mind mentioning his "colleague" in arms, since they both do amazing jobs.
And SB also provides extremely detailed step-by-step setup how he accomplishes the OC's, which is amazing/exhausting(just like GN Steve :) )
And yeah, I am seriously considering the Mycro now, as this seems to be really worth it, especially with the OC being legit option, not just BCLK/eCLK as on 7800X3D
Same...I have a 7950x3d custom loop with x670e but am thinking of going direct die CPU cooler for the 9950x3d if it's worth the uplift.
All 3 of y'all, just stay outta my way at launch tmrw, and we won't have issues, kapeesh?
(My cpu is dead, and I really just need the X3D to turn on my new system)
@@GSP-76 Performance wise? Maybe, if you use it meaningfully. Financially... it is up to you.
I will be upgrading from 7600, so I think the uplift will be significant, but for you the difference will be ... not so noticable.
But that would require new board(MSI Pro B650M-A Wifi isn't exactly the top performer), but I will give it a shot... For X3D it might suffice.
@@nerdynumen Don't worry, first I will have to save for the CPU itself, then for delider and block... so maybe in 3 months I might even start to consider buying the CPU... Time to get ahead of everyone in the meaningless 3Dmark ranks again... 1st place with my "rusty" 6800XT isn't enough!
Dude! That's a decent improvement!!! Nice work AMD!!!
SO they did a flip chip while keeping the same socket???
INTEL ARE YOU WATCHING?
Amd is a game changer and love that they try doing better. They really gained my confidence when buying a cpu.
And they still release CPU's for the AM4 socket from time to time...
since i skip a few generations between builds its always a new socket.
@@Dirkxke reminds me of the socket 7 days when multiple CPU generations were compatible with boards.
Intel is for corporate connected people who buy into the economical narratives, while AMD is for the non corporate connected world of humans.😁
Simulation games like FS2020 saw a 20% bump to average FPS and 24% bump to 1% lows compared to the 7800X3D.
Edit: Tom's Hardware review shows the FS2020 charts, my replies seem to have vanished.
Where did you read/hear this?
Source ? Didnt see any fs20 benchmarks yet.
@@aviator8583 Tom's Hardware's 9800X3D review has FS2020 in DX11 tested.
@@LimitlessHorizonVRSimrigs Tom's Hardware review.
@@aviator8583 Tom's Hardware review of the CPU has the stats for it.
So sweet you can OC it. Nice improvements AMD
I remember the Intel CEO saying "AMD is in the rear-view mirror" after the Alder Lake CPU launch.
What he didn't know was the intel car was in reverse at the time...
That aged poorly, just as the "buying offer" from Intel to Nvidia.
That aged like fine milk
@@Rocman76 😂😂😂😂 🔥
He was right 9800x3d wasn't released yet.
That's it. This seals the deal. My next gaming PC will use 9800X3D!
(Haven't owned one for years, due to RL financial situation, but things are better now and I'm saving up!)
you can probably get a better deal if you wait for the inevitable 9950X3D, since the 9800 will drop in price be a hundred $ or so
@manitoba-op4jx Yup, not going to buy this one outright. Still saving some more.
Just bear in mind that the gpu is far more important and the performance of the 9800x3d would be highly dictated by the gpu. Never buy an expensive cpu and then skimp out on a gpu like a lot of rookie pc users. Pc's are a very very expensive investment and becomes outdated very quickly. Im waiting 12 months to see if intel can respond to this AMD slaughter 😂
@@prussell890 The CPU definitely helps in simulation games, Unreal 5 games (which everyone seems to be switching to), or Capcom's games like Dragon's Dogma 2 and Monster Hunter Wilds.
Also depending on how old the cpu is (I had an i5 4690K with a GTX 1080), upgrading the GPU may not make a difference in framerate in new games because they are more CPU heavy. I could crank the graphics up to high but be getting the same 20-30fps as on low settings because CPU was at 100% usage. Needed a whole platform upgrade to update CPU to 7800X3D, so still had a GTX 1080 for a year but doubled my FPS.
@Revan_7even yes in your situation its 100% worth it if you upgrade to a high end gpu. Unreal 5 is horribly optimized if im right in thinking. I was thinking of changing to AMD but I wont see any serious gains from my current i7 14700k and 4080 super. My i7 14700k is still a very fast cpu
Wow that 5.6GHz overclock was absolutely insane!
That is a huge boost, if it's casually achievable without direct-die as well. But damn... I've been wanting to do direct-die for years, and this might be the one. It is just such a cool CPU in terms of features and innovations culminating over time.
Waiting with baited breath for Cryo results.
This videos are the best thing ever. I can't wait for the 9950x3d stuff.
10/10 for the catbreak!
Great review, thanks.
Gotta say it's better than I expected. Still only like around 10% uplift, but if you're ready to spend some coins you can delid it and push it another 10%.
well 10-11% 7800xd3 to 9800x3d. From 5800x3d to 9800x3d it is a 35% uplift, with the potentiel to overclock it further😁
Yeah but also while eliminating vcaches non gaming downsides too so this time you're getting the fastest 8 cores for everything not just gaming
Hell even for gaming if you're playing esport type games and using high polling rate peripherals you'll be getting the non gaming performance improvement there, which is like 30% and seeing 8k polling rate mice are so taxing, that extra performance is needed
@@bergdk237 it's time to upgrade my 4900RTX game pc from my current 5900x, to this new beast. Even for gaming at 1600p.
I think this CPU will be crazy popular for gaming laptops in 2025. It is efficent, powerful, runs cooler, it has whole laptop package..
I was just about to say you didn’t take our advice about bringing the cats back but then I get a 20 second montage! 🐈
*30
Kudos for including the CAT scan of the CPU ;)
I show up for 9800X3D, I stay for cats.
The 1st review of this cpu i see, i don't need to see any other, simply the best! Cats test passed! :D
Wow, those thermal improvements are fabulous. Direct-die cooling a processor with such a thin core die is a terrific combination.
AMD nailed this!!!!
I'm absolutely delighted to see your cats again. I've really missed not having them in every video and I can only say it's unacceptable. When people have animals they should be seen and I'm glad you had them in this content. thank you.
Incredibly good video - and I think you've sold me on going with direct-die when I upgrade.
Hey Roman, one small addition I personally would like to see in these comparisons is the calculated ratio of frames/watt or watts/frame. Obviously I can pause the video and run the numbers on my phone calculator pretty easily, but it does interrupt the flow of the video. For me, seeing those ratios expressed numerically is a quick and easy way of cataloging the performance in my brain; seeing it and hearing you discuss it in those terms would help simplify the information for me and other people like me! Thanks, and great content as always!
Great video. Super excited for what the 9950X3D may bring.
Finally someone including CS2 comparison ! MUCH APPRICIATED!
Hello from Denmark
Thanks for the cat break, I really needed that today. =)
Awesome review!!! Cant wait to OC this thing, there is a lot of headroom! Will try delliding for the first time
Thanks!
It would be nice to se you do a deep dive on different thermal compounds when delidding - liquid metal as usual, your KryoSheets, ptm7950, perhaps even some regular thermal paste. Like, focusing on engineering, material science, and longevity - it's great when you go into the nitty-gritty details.
A video of that kind could skip all the gaming benchmarks, but of course do a synthetic all-core load like Cinebench to show the temperature differences of the different compounds. Would be interesting if you also add your high-performance heat spreader and talk about differences in thermal compound between the HPHS and cooler.
Yeah I think going from my old i5-8400 to a 9800X3D should be a big jump, right?
Yea. Even to 5800x3d or 5700x3d a budget upgrade.
😂 not sure, you might want to hold and wait a little bit more
Bruh
I7 3770 here xd
@@Eusebiugh upgrade from dead platform to dead platform. Nice suggestion mate.
My wife: "x3 what? Direct who? OH CAT BREAK!"
In India it is Pre-Order and will be available after 20th November the price is like 47,500/- Rs which is like 570$ dollars US
Dude pulls out the Dremel to POLISH the delidded CPU what a legend
The improvements in performance and temperature are impressive.
Very nice video Roman. Nice CPU as well. Waiting for that 9950X3D to drop.
Love the 30 seconds Cat break :P
Damn. Dremmel for delidding is insane and also temp in 40s in Cinebench is insane
Can't wait to see what the rest of the 9000x3d series can do
We need definitely more cats breaks! Nice job Roman, thanks.
If buffing the die seems necessary for liquid metal reliability perhaps you could include simple die stencils with the delidding tool to help protect the PCB. Uploading stencil files for different generations that we could 3D print or trace onto thin cardboard would be really cool as well.
This is finally becoming what we've hoped X3D could be. We may even see them integrate cache into the main Zen 6 lineup now. Intel really has an uphill battle ahead of them...
Just cover it with kapton tape, mate.
Now that the processors with 3d cache are unlocked, it will be interesting to see the performance of the 9900x3d and 9950x3d. Maybe this closes the gap that the 3d models of the 7000 line had in games.
Suprisingly good OC performance here.
Would have loved to see how you properly applied the liquid metal, might wanna try that stuff at some point later on a build I have in mind.
I must say, those new Cat Tests really shows how performant this chip is!
I cannot wait to delid and watercool one of these new x3d chips, being able to add more power and cool the cores properly is amazing news.
Really tempted to way for a 9950x3d though!
Loved the cat break!
Damn.. I have a 5800X3D that I got early last year.. I miss overclocking. I also got custom water cooling recently. Very tempting indeed.
I am so excited to see what an overclock with your full attention can yield in the future!
10:18 Highlight of the entire video!
Finally the cats! Still i prefer if they are a part of the whole review, not just single video segment:)
Hardcore review. Great job man!
Cat break was amazing please make this a regular thing
the best test method ever!
Unboxing, review + testing, delidding with polishing + direct die tests and "Thermal Grizzly" cats intermission😁all done in 18 mins!👍👍That's why I like your reviews! 9800X3D has certainly delivered on all fronts mainly by putting V-Cache underneath compute die, congrats AMD for creating best gaming CPU!👏Intel should be jealous, efficiency is truly superb! Only thing I am missing with these high end gaming CPUs is support of max DDR5 RAM speeds of 8800 MT. Not sure why they go with max 5600 MT in this case or 6400 MT with Intel.
Thank you for the excellent video. Clear, direct, and very informative. I almost wish I had not seen the performance and temperature benefits from delidding the CPU, because that is not something I think I can do myself.
I am new to this channel, but you don't talk about what kind of cooler you use for the delidded CPU. It would be very interesting to see what are the limits that can be done for performance for a delidded CPU, with performance tuning of wattage, speed, timings, and memory optimization.
In the end, I will probably end up getting a 9800 X3D to replace my aging 5600 X3D system, that is going to move to the backup system. I am going to wait though for prices and availability.
Thanks again for a great video!
That's it-a cat test in a CPU review. Finally, a bold UA-camr did it! Take that, Steve.
I mean, he probably already did it too; that man posts way too many videos!
This is one the best thing about AMD , they will always keep trying to overcome difficulties and bring joy to HIGH TECH folks like us , no matter how hard they fall , the engineers always took the challenge serious and make it happen , thank you guys .
Rooting for the biggest CPU maker in the world as if they're a scrappy underdog is so weird honestly.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreatorBiggest CPU maker in the world is still Intel by far.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator AMD has CPU, Console, GPU and custom SOC which is why they look big but they have (36k staff) 6.82 billion profit, yet despite all that Intel (130k staff) has CPU and a GPU department, but also they have FAB's 13.28 billion profit.
@@Dazzxp Yeah. AMD sales are big ONLY on desktop CPU`s for end users. OEM`s, corporations, server farms - mostly intel. Their position of a somewhat monopoly for consoles and handhelds is simply unchanged (cause intel cant, for the love of god, give its igpu`s enough watts to work normally and not throttle to hell due to cpu package power limits).
Can we expect the coming 9950x3D to have a major uplift in productivity tools (like compression/decompression)?
The gaming performance is nice, but I am left wanting more from the non-gaming performance.
Should I wait for that new chip or just get this one?
The cat segment reminded me to press the Like button 😂
let's make cat test a formal and official test from now on!
The cat approves, that's all it needs!!!! 😎
Nice multi-cat benchmark!
What an awesome CPU. Fast, efficient, and overclockable. This is AMD's Skylake.
Cat break ... best CPU reviewer ever.
Nobody paws that chip better than those two.
7000 direct die frame v2 should be compatible right? I don’t see anything that’s physically different than the regular 9700x.
The temperatures are insanely good.
Love the cat break
Thank you, I needed the cat break.
damn, thats a well designed chip that is. holding 5.6ghz stable is pretty nice along with 3d cache
Really good to see bump in base Ghz, lower TDP/Temp and overall gain, though not substantial compared to 7800X3D, but still overall good package.. Will upgrade next year from my current 7700X running with 32GB/6400 CL32 along with 2TB Samsung 990 Pro & nVidia 3800Ti (hopefully will have budget to upgrade GPU as well).
Does the 9800X3D still benefit from an offset heatsink mounting, like the 7mm offset for the Noctua NH-D15?
Thanks for the cat break.
Thumbs up for the cat-break. Not b/c I particularly care for the cats (I'm agnostic), but b/c you listened to the cat-loving comments. Hilarious.
-bZj
Hi Roman. Please do an introductory video about delidding and direct-die cooling using TG's products and the 9800X3D, explaining the how to do it from scratch, giving tips and tricks when applicable, the tools needed, as well as any other information. The 9800X3D is worthy of it, you make an informative promotional video of TGs products, and we, PC builders who've never done this but would like to get into it now, get a reliable tutorial. Everybody wins.
Thanks for the PT audio option but I'd rather prefer to listen to the original :)
I say "no thanks" to those new features. I already hate when the titles are automatically changed.
I pretty much prefer creators who pays real translators to provide good old subtitles than any of those automated stuffs following the AI trend.
that is some strange stuff. I didn't even enable it :O
@@PainterVierax whether you hate it or not google doesn't care. they need to justify the billions of dollars they're spending on AI and we get to be their guinea pigs.
@@der8auer-en nooo please that was fun :)
I LOVE THE CAT TEST - MORE!
Why dont they sell CPUs for enthusiasts without lids? It could be very convenient for overclockers while also saving on production costs.
Is because of the warranty, there would be a lot of room for people screwing things up and calling for RMA. But as you, I wish there would be a more straight forward way to get a delided, functional cpu as this or the 9950x3d when is out.
@@Drumaier They are definitely making CPUs for laptops that are cooled directly and sell them to partners or as spare parts.
@@Boris-Vasiliev but those aren't meant to be shipped as boxed products
9950X3D will be epic .
If it has a cache bank per ccd or eliminates previous gen latency issues in some other way, AND is overclockable like this chip, it will likely fly off the shelves.
@@temporaltomato3021 Yes but at the same time i wish there was a productivity chip with bigger better L1 and L2 cache . This way everyone would benefit and not only the gamers .
Direct die with curve optimizer - 30 or +30 all cores etc test maybe be veru interesting, if have time play with processor. End thanks best english language pc channel on YT.
I got my 9800X3D on order, sadly I live in Canada and our postal service is on strike currently, so I probably won't see my CPU until after that's all done, but upgrading from the 5800X3D, I'm looking forward to the performance and efficiency gain! Next I will just need to save up for a used 4000 series GPU to make this computer truly efficient, as I run an RTX 3080 right now
Y do they put 7.1 channel sound systems on serverboards? 1:22
Incredible work, really awesome and superb. You earned a new suscriptor.
@11:31 If you a heat the cpu lid a little, wouldn't it be easier to remove? 🤔
Can't decide what's the best part of the video, the OC results or the cats ...
Can you use the same heatspreader from 7800x3d for the 9800x3d? I am thinking of buying the 9950x3d upgrading from 7800x3d. I delidded and put the heatspreader with the waterblock and was disappointed that the chip was locked at 5.05Ghz. I want to also change my asus 670e motherboard for a motherboard that allows e clock overclock and other overclocking features.
I don't understand this, could someone tell me why the CPU consumes less power at lower temperatures, this happens at around 14:15
Would enjoy seeing the block getting removed after such puddles of LM, sure you know your stuff, no doubt. I just apply it very differently. Would suck that fresh extra LM back in the syringe aswell, directing the needle lumen towards the bottom of the LM applied. I prepare the surfaces of a die and cooler base (identical area as a die), by massaging the surface with a Q-tip and some force, with approximately 1-2mm drop of LM. It saturates the surfaces "chemically" or what so ever, then can quite generously squeeze LM on top to make a wiggly puddle while spreading it fully. The last step is to suck back in the excess amounts of LM, leaving a kind of very thin surfaces of LM on both the die+cooler surfaces. And now it is time to connect them together. Done LM installations some 15years too, and changed the way of applying to this by some notes done by myself. It's rather hassle free imo, due to normal way of doing and the nature of LM being like a liquid magnet lol. Also scraping the surfaces gently with some 1000-2000 grit sanding paper. Just some light sanding to make surfaces change to a matte finish, LM "connects" way better and easier spreading.
Will the mystery of why cats are so fascinated with boxes ever be solved?
ask Shrodinger
@@WilhelmvonFahrvergnugen I did he said we will never know why they do or why they don't
The universal law of “if I fits, I sits”
@@Matt-oq4jqNo kidding…and amazed at how they squeeze themselves in and are apparently comfortable.
Cats are fluid, fluids like to be in containers.
Re: Intel memory speeds, I didn't request the change, but my ideal setup would be:
Choose a *price competitive* memory kit that allows Intel to leverage the better IMC, and just make sure to call out that's what you did. Using a super fast, very expensive kit is a bit unfair, but if you can get a kit that's faster but perhaps with looser timings for the same price, and that works out to be faster, then Intel should be shown with that advantage, because users would make that same choice (at least if they're informed users who watch your videos :D )
Der8auer, glowing review. Cats, paws for thought. I'm a little concerned, what do the cats know?
Nice cat break 🐈
hmmmm I can't wait to see proper OC ing deep dives on this part also very curious to see what the higher core count X3D parts can do and just generally how they perform great job brother on this review.... also with your wall decorations theres a cool looking product just released that may be a good addition the GN dice set you'd have to check the dimensions of course
Do you think it's worth offsetting an air cooler on the 9800X3D?
yes
below 75°c in stock condition while under torture load?
that is fucking fanstatic!
I can’t believe all they had to do to make overclocking possible was to flip the chip and cache. And I’m so glad someone at AMD realized it
By standard of the last 5-7 years 400mhz is a huge gain and normally I would be concerned but your not only water cooled but delided and the temps and just glorious. Inb4 someone tries to daily at 5.8ghz+. Now maybe on a 9950x3d with the peak grade of silicon quality but I don’t think the lil 8 cores are getting the best silicon, more like B grade and nothing worse. Won’t know for sure until a bunch of us have them and we make a community chart but it seems like anything at or under 1.35v may actually be game again for Ryder.
im gonna try it :)
just wondering whether to wait for 5090 or not, because i might add mo-ra radiator 😭 my 2 360mm rads just about cool my 14900ks and 4090 now so
other way around when it comes to the X3D chips. they're binned for the x800X3D first.
U get 1 good ccd like the 9700x or 9800x3d gets then u get one that doesn't perform well so they can get rid of defective chips
Hi are you able to show a video of exactly what you did in the bios to OC the chip?