I shouldn't have to mention this, but people think (for some reason) that when I purchase a firearm like this, that I do it for personal defense and I am dumb for buying a Taurus. You guys have to realize, I am a gun channel. I used to use only better brands for testing until I got bugged to death to start using budget firearms so people who can't afford better ones, can see their guns used as well. After I do that, it's non stop complaining that I use Taurus. I just can't win. But honestly, I buy most of my handguns for ballistic testing, so saving a few bucks helps me to be able to buy guns and also do ballistic tests, because ammo is expensive. I make a LOT less money on here than people think, partly because I purposely remain unsponsored and shill-less. You are welcome. Also, I keep getting the "Not another Taurus, you have had nothing but bad luck with them, WHY?!". This is definitely the Mandela effect going on. I bought a Taurus 605 in 2019 and G2C 9mm in 2020 and ran them for 2/3 years with no problems. Then in 2022 I got an 856 with some issues so I sent it back and they replaced it. In 2023 I got a TX22 and it has been the best pistol in .22 LR I have ever owned. So before the G2C .40 S&W purchase, I had 3 of 4 of their handguns run GREAT, and the two semi autos of theirs I already had, had no issues, it was a 50/50 success rate with their revolvers from my experience and a 100% success rate with their semi autos up until that point. There was no reason to think that the Taurus G2C in .40 S&W was going to be junk, yet for some reason people remember me having nothing but trouble with all my Taurus handguns. Why? Why do people think that unless they are confusing me with someone else? Also I filmed this almost 2 months ago. I ran several ballistic test videos with this G2C .40 S&W, and in a couple of them I had zero issues and in one I had a lot of issues before I fully fixed the magazines. The magazines were full of rusty grit, the springs were twisted odd and the feed lips were not in spec. The gun feeds good now but the magazine release still gets actuated once in awhile no matter what I do. I tried both left and right side of the frame with no true success at eliminating the issue. I may get a grip sleeve to push my hands away from the actual frame more.
@@daleswalley7226 In my experience, mag drops with pistols where every other thing is ruled out, means that there is too much power for that particular pistol. Like my Glock 41 in .45 ACP. Uses the .45/10mm frame, but the slide is thin so it weighs less than the original large frame Glock. If I run most ammo it runs fine, hot +P ammo and the mag drops. I think the same thing is going on here where it's fine in the 9mm G2C, but trying to go up in power in a gun that is not meant for that power, jolts the mag release in some way from the extra recoil.
@@daleswalley7226 btw I had a Ruger P95 once. It gave Ruger a bad name in my case. I was new to guns at the time so I figured it malfunctioning twice per magazine was normal. Apparently it had a bad extractor, as when I called them and told them the issue, they immediately said that was it and they were sending a new one. That fixed it briefly but months later the issue came back, and I had to have a new extractor sent again. Apparently the way those slide in extractors are, they lose their heat treat very quickly so the needed bend to grab the case, slowly goes straight.
@GunSam I had the same problem with my G2C 40. The only way I got the mags to take all 10 without excessive force and to stop the nose dives was to flip the mag spring upside-down (smaller end up) and put the highest part of the spring towards the front to support the nose. The spring ends are not the same on mine and the springs were lifting the primer end more than the nose. YMMV, mine never dropped mags though.Thanks for all you do.
Oh I've had a Taurus .44 cylinder fall out! Pulled it out to check for rust and the cylinder dropped to the floor. I bought it new, hadn't fired it much. Sent it back but they didn't fix it properly. (Only replaced the screw that held the cylinder crane on, they didn't replace the grooved part that was worn by the screw so quickly) Sold it with disclosure.
They may not suffer failure to feeds but they experience plenty of other failures. They go out of time, sometimes they come from the factory out of time, the cylinders will lock up on you tighter than a bank vault, and light strike issues can plague them too. I had a Taurus 85 that light striked probably 40% of the time. Know how useful that is as a carry piece? Not at all. Bought a Wolff spring kit to fix it and that got it down to around a 25% failure to ignite the primer rate. Greeaatttt....And yes, trigger springs break on revolvers too and revolvers are waayyy less tolerant of lack of cleaning before they start operating incorrectly versus an auto. These are my experiences.
@@billyjoel_bub I bought a Ruger Security Six years ago and if I put a little resistance on the cylinder it would not lock on cocking. I took it back to the gun store and because it was a Ruger they didn’t believe me, until they tested it. They immediately replaced it for me with a new Ruger.
Filmed February 21st 2024. I have since, got the magazine reliability completely fixed. The springs were twisted in a weird way, the feed lips were very out of spec and the entire magazine body was filled with rusty grit- however the magazine drop continues to be a problem. At 7:33 to 7:57, I knew there was one round in the magazine, so after I fired two shots I knew the pistol was empty, but I kept my finger on the trigger for no reason. I can't recall why I did that, but it's not a normal thing I do. I know it's no excuse, however I was alone out there and I know people get "triggered" about this sort of thing, so I thought I would explain that and admit it was poor gun handling.
I wanted to put a secondary reply to my pinned comment, as a few comments on this video have reminded me of hundreds of comments I have gotten on a few other videos where I used Taurus handguns, and I want to address those comments. I constantly get the same comment over and over again - that I have had 'nothing but trouble' with Taurus, and people ask how could I be so dumb as to buy another one when I had trouble with every one etc etc. Apparently the Mandela effect is happening here, because none of that is true. Other than a Taurus in 2009 I owned that had a transfer bar break, my experience is this: in 2019 I decided to try Taurus again so I got a 605, then in 2020 I got a G2C 9mm - both rand flawlessly for 2-3 years, so I bought an 856 in 2022 with some problems. That was a year long experience with Taurus to get that one gun right, but it was only ONE of their guns. Then in 2023 I got a TX22 - and again, no issues. So going into my G2C .40 S&W purchase, my current time frame with Taurus experience - 2019 and after, was that I had four Taurus firearms, one revolver with an issue and two semi autos that were flawless. There would be no reason that I would think that a G2C .40 S&W would have any issues at all based on my experience with the two previous semi autos, and ONLY semi autos I owned from them, because they were perfect. Yet for some reason, that ONE Taurus 856 'Mandela effected' into this thing, where every Taurus firearm I ever owned was garbage, and while knowing this information, I keep brainlessly buying them. Like, where do you all get this stuff from? It's not from me or my experiences.
@@stuartstuart866 They typically fire one proof round at higher than spec pressure, and that's about it as far as I know. When it comes to true quality control where a gun is put through the paces, companies tend to just select one off the line in that batch, or one for ever few hundred, and put that one through testing rather than test every gun. It would be too expensive to run a magazine through every firearm.
I had some issues with magazine releasing when firing the g2c 40, it stopped after break in, and I also changed my grip a bit, I believe I was occasionally touching the mag release with my thumb because of the extra recoil (compared to the g2c 9)
Wow - you got a real ringer there. I have Taurus compacts in 9mm and .40 S&W and have NEVER had a failure to feed or to eject, across all the different ammo I have fired in both pistols, from fresh out of the box. YMMV is a VERY real thing. What interested me was your initial comment that the .40 would be snappier than the 9mm. In my case, the opposite is true; the 9mm is noticeably snappier in recoil than the .40 - perhaps a recoil spring difference, but I had 3 others shoot them side by side, and confirmed that the .40 was "softer" shooting with less muzzle rise. Faster back on target every time. Very interesting contrast in experiences with similar guns - especially with respect to reliability. Of course, any gun with a dirty or damaged action can go up in smoke in reliability and turn 180 when cleaned and oiled. Thanks for the video; more info is better than less!
I received a GC2 .40 many years ago as part of that class action lawsuit against Taurus. While the trigger is a little "spongy", I have never had any problems with the gun or the mags.
Clean it well and try it again. If it still acts up send it back to Taurus. I've owned several of their revolvers and pistols and all worked flawlessly. Good luck and thanks for the video as usual.
Bought a G2c .40 about a month ago just for the heck of it and so far not a single issue I did oiled before shooting it, something I believe this guy didn’t do
I've owned 5 Taurus pistols in my life and I can honestly say not a single one worked properly. Took a while but I learned to not buy the brand any more.
YEP I have owned 34 different Taurus handguns over the years Because I kept trying to give them a chance to redeeme themselves and I do like thier designs, only 2 of them were ever worth a crap and then just barely, I have even had friends and my nephew who recieved a Taurus revolver as a pressent from his girlfriend come to the same conclussion, Taurus is JUNK,, and as a company Taurus is crap (just try dealing with them if you have an issue I have 3 times and they never did crap to take care of fixing thier crap or making it right), if Taurus became the onkly gun out there then I would just stop my gun hobby because I have no desire to buy a headache when there is enough headaches in life without paying for one, Taurus can suck it WAYYYYY better options out there that don't hardly cost any more these days.
I have 6 Taurus firearms. 4 autos and 2 revolvers. The autos need lube and some breaking in. One spectrum I had to polish and file the ramp but after that it works flawless. For the money I don't mind tinkering with them if necessary.
I bought two Taurus g2c 9mm,pt845 45acp I also reload medium 45super loads,tracker 44mag, spectrum 380acp, 2 mod 605 defender in 357mag, rossi brawler 45/ 410single shot I'm not going to say how hot I've tested it, I gave my daughter my trusty rossi md 720 in 44special that's a dream to shoot. all these work flawlessly and accurately. just as reliable as my higher value pistols/revolvers. papa wishing you well. 😊
I sent my Taurus GX4 back to Taurus twice. My Taurus 942 revolver was defective out of the box, would not ignite ANY primers. Still waiting on that one.
I had that issue on an older Taurus rimfire, I think the 94 it was. Would set off like 3 of 9 shots and no more, consistently, with CCI it was closer to 9 of 9. Once they make the spring good enough to ignite, it will snap your transfer bar.
Reminds me of when I had a S&W Victory. Sent that gun back so many times it had frequent flier miles. Replaced every part on it twice. Gave up and traded it.
Gun Sam I have a g2c and 40 S&W also it really only likes 155 grain and lower weight ammunition anything over that it'll Jam like crazy and will not run but the 155 Federal FMJ run really good in it they're pretty hot and 1:35 grain spear the ones that are made of stuff that you can shoot steel targets up close it works with those pretty well as well so I decided to splurge and I bought a g3c in the 40s and W and over and every weight bullet through that thing 500 rounds so far zero issues it eats everything I feed it way better pistol than the g2c so even though you like the two see you're used to it the trigger the overall feel accuracy is much better on the 3C just FYI thanks and keep up the good work
Mine didn’t fully go into battery maybe twice but it was expected my first time shooting it new. Never had any issues out of my G2c 40 100% reliable no questions about it I recommend it to everybody
Almost every Taurus I've owned had problems. Your G2 may not cycle properly and inexplicably drops magazines, but my PT111 Gen 2 9mm came new, in the box, with a dead trigger. I sent it back, and after a few months it was returned to me with a cryptic note saying "adjusted trigger". As a result I've never carried it.
I have a PT145 which is like a 45 ACP version on the PT111 and it drops certain mags when shooting. Also, if I load the full 10 rounds in the mag the first round will nose dive and get stuck on the bottom of the feed ramp. If I load the mag to just 9 rounds it runs fine. I only use it for the range. It' also a pre-recall gun which means if you hold the trigger back while putting on the safety you can fire one shot with the safety on.
I only own two Taurus handguns. One is a model 85 2" snub 38 I purchased in the early nineties and, outside of a very heavy trigger pull, it has been completely reliable and fairly accurate all these years. My other is a TX22 Competiton SCR. I did modify it quite a bit with Tandemkross aftermarket parts but it has also been very reliable (for a 22LR semi-auto!) and is more accurate than my Sig P320 22LR. I did own a model 92 Beretta clone when they just started making them years ago after purchasing old Beretta machinery. Unlike a buddy's example of the same model, mine never reliably fed hollow points, so I sold it. I can't say any of their other offerings ever interested me though.
I wear an XLG glove, am a leftie and never switch the mag release to the right side of the frame b/c I always bump it under recoil if I set it up for a southpaw. I learned to use the middle finger of my left hand in firearms training before the controls could be changed.
I tried that, and it did the same thing. My last 3 or 4 videos with ammo tests have the mag release on the right. Mixed results. Drops no matter the side.
Don't judge all semi autos by a junk assed Taurus. Out of all the handguns I own the only 2 that I've ever had any issues with are the 2 Taurus revolvers. I'll never buy another Taurus product. There's a reason why there garbage is so "inexpensive".
I love revolvers, but as a whole they have been less reliable out of the box than pistols I own. I even had to send back a $1450 performance center Smith and Wesson to get it to run right.
@@janmale7767until a primer backs our a bullet walks forward. Stripping star, etc plenty of wonder nines make it through several 1000 round classes without fail. While most revolvers see less than 250
I have a Taurus G2C 40 cal also. It does the same thing yours is doing, although not quite as bad. It got a little better after I put some rounds through it & cleaned it, but is still unreliable. If you figure it out please do a video explaining what’s going on. Thank you.
Lakeline LLC internals, and guide rod. Then you need the keep tinkering trigger! makes it a whole new gun. Do that then let me know how you feel about it💪🏾 not sure about the mag problems you are having though.
That’s so discouraging. I had a PT111 from Taurus years ago that had an extraction issue out of the gate. They fixed it and it’s great now but it always bugged me. Recently I bought a SW Shield Plus and it had a firing pin issue the first mag. Sent it back and it’s working good. Just put 200 rounds through it yesterday. QC is not great anywhere now. I hope it gets fixed quickly. Love your channel. Thank you for all the good content.
Thank you. Yeah, I like things to run out of the gate. People get mad when I don't clean a gun before unboxing it. But to me, if a gun can't run due to packing grease and dust, there's no way I will trust it just because I cleaned it. Dirty guns might give some issues one jam every 100 rounds, not every shot almost.
Ignorant logic I’m sure the directions from any gun tell you to clean and oil first but you seem to make up your own logic with no merit but then blame someone else when it fails
I'm so glad that someone has my luck, you bought my gun. I've had run-ins with Taurus/Rossi on warranty concerns, one was enough, never again. Sorry for the problems in this video, but I'm glad that you showed this just the same.
Thank you so much for your videos! I purchased the Taurus G2C 40 a few months ago and just recently it started jamming just like yours did. But the magazines didn’t pop out like yours. I was using Hornady Critical Defense HPs and every round jammed. I switched to the Federal FMJ Target rounds with the red tipped bullets and they cycled through. I ordered some Federal Punch 40 S&W HPs and if they jam I’ll probably get rid of the gun because it’s so unreliable!!! I also own another budget gun, a Hi Point JCP 40 S&W and it’s never jammed once but it’s pretty heavy to use as a hiking pistol (I use it for protection against black bears, cougars and feral dogs). My preferred carry is either my Keltec P17 22 LR which I use Federal Punch or my Armscorp 38 Special 2” snubnose (and much much thanks for all of your 38 Special videos!!!) and I usually use 158 gr Critical Defense HPs with that. Although I’m a big guy at 6’4” tall and 260 pounds I prefer really small and light pistols/ revolvers because I’m a wildlife photographer and with my camera and lenses and a daypack filled with food, water and extra clothes, a heavy weapon isn’t desirable when hiking 5-10 miles. When I’m photographing grizzlies in Montana and Wyoming my primary weapon is bear spray and my secondary is my Hi Point JCP 40, both I’ve never had to unhoster. Thanks again for your channel!
Had the same problem with G2c, the magazine kept falling out, and then it would not chamber a round. Now the slide will not fully close. This was my personal carry gun, but I'm done with this one going back to revolver, more reliable.
I’ve been assisting with or teaching CHL classes for the past few months. In each class there’s at least one Taurus G2/3. Some are brand new and some look like they were borrowed or bought used. Most have worked better than the operator. One with problems was more likely from ammo reloaded with faulty primers as the misfires showed decent primer strikes. The only TX22 with problems that I’ve seen was from an operator who bought it new and a friend had instructed him not to clean or lube it until he’d fired a hundred rounds. Unfortunately that round count was in the middle of a CHL class/qualification. It was just too dry and gritty to function reliably with standard velocity 22. If a student will admit to such concerns before beginning, I carry a bottle of lube for those occasions.
I decided to order the LEO trade-in Gen 4 G23 from Aim Surplus for $299... on sale, yeah, it only comes with one mag.... but I know it will be reliable. Again, thanks for the review. Folks, I would not let this keep you from getting a G3 9mm or a G2C 9mm...
I like Taurus, but only their revolvers. I have the 856 snub which I love, but I eventually gave up on their semi autos. I know others may not have had any issues with them but I tried to make it work and experienced constant f2f. There are no perfect tools and anything can fail, I understand that but my G2/3 series experiment was done. I had to take a loss and hire a new guy, Mr. Shield plus. 3 years, hundreds of rounds later I find it quite dependable. Great video!
I have a 50% success rate. I won't go into the past too much, but currently I have a G2C in 9mm that works great, a G2C in .40 S&W that is obviously garbage. I have a 605 revolver that has been great, but an 856 that is a little better than garbage, but has problems.
Your experience with the last revolver from Taurus has kept me from buying a 605. Now with this G2c I am really hung up. If I could get a 605 as reliable as yours I would get one. I’m a Glock ‘fan boy’, old man now. Take care, enjoy your experiments.
I had a taurus g2c 40 s&w and never had the mag fall out. I did, however, have the same failure to feed issues. I thought it was a mag issue because it was very stiff, but I never figured it out. Just sold the damn thing. I was going to buy another one, but this video reminded me of what happened with mine, I completely forgot about it. Don't know if I will buy one now.
Love Taurus all of mine have always worked well. I started with the G2C, then G3C, G3, GX4, TX-22, and the 942. They have all performed well for me. Maybe I'm lucky?
Pardner, you sure have your problems with Taurus. I guess you finally got your revolver troubles fixed, right? I have a TH40 and it runs fine. Planning to buy a TH 10, as soon as I find one new. Mine was gritty at first but you can smooth it out with break-in.
Even though it’s not the problem, I have had some recent bad luck with Blazer Brass .40. Mine was with .40 165 & 180 grain. Multiple malfunctions in my Gen 4 Glock 22. After a few boxes with issues, I switched to some Magtech I had on hand and the issues disappeared.
I'd take the mag apart and check the plastic follower for any molding issues and check to see if the mag base plate is too thick to let the mag go in all the way the spring maybe to long or the wrong one
That is a NEW pistol. The oily substance coating the pistol and the magazines is NOT a lubricant. It is a corrosion inhibitor which collects dirt and dust. However the pistol won't rust and that's the point. First thing is to clean and then lightly oil the pistol and the magazines. Be sure to completely remove all the corrosion inhibitor before lightly oiling.
Gun Sam, I would send the pistol and the video to Taurus and I'm sure they would fix that pistol. I have heard their customer service is really good. Sucks to buy something that does not work well right from the start. It looked like those mags needed attention. I'm Glad you went thru them and got them working better. Thanks for putting out all the data that You do as always. God Bless You brother.
I’ve also heard Taurus’ warranty is great. On the other hand, if you’re on a tight budget or live in a one-gun-a-month state and need to have your new pistol available, having to be without it for however long it takes for warranty to fix it might be too long.
I own several Taurus revolvers - they are a mixed bag. Some are good, some are bad and needed work. The warranty service is mediocre, certainly not up to S&W or Ruger quality. The best ones are the older ones, especially .38 Special. The worst is a .22 revolver. The guys at the local range have the same opinion of the Taurus semi-auto pistols, some work well others (too many) have to go back to Taurus for warranty work.
I have had identical experiences. Their rimfire will just snap a transfer bar. Some of their revolvers are good, some bad. Same with semi autos, but it's like the semi autos are a tad more comparable to a better brand than their revolvers are. Taurus is a pain to deal with, often don't seem to see smaller problems, such as a mag drop or whatever - they just shoot it "in spec" and send it back. Ruger is easy to deal with but they don't always fix everything. S&W just fixes your gun, ignores your emails, then sends it back...albeit, fixed properly.
@@GunSam Amen, brother. My gunsmith who is really good, dislikes to work on Taurus guns. He has done it for me when Taurus sent a gun back stating that is shoots "within specs" or some other lame excuse for not fixing the problem. Thanks for another excellent video.
I've owned exactly one .40 S&W pistol. I got it back during the AWB, so it only had ten round mags. It was full size. It was a Smith & Wesson 40 EV or SV, I don't recall. Anyway, it had no feeding issues and was pleasant to shoot with target ammo. What made me sell it was the rear sight shot off in the first mag. Apparently the dove tail in the slide was cut too large. It was a "Sigma" series that Glock sued S&W for over the trigger design. I think the basic problem with most 40s is that they are built on 9mm frames rather than 10mm/45 ACP frames. From what I understand, the Beretta 96 series is the same as the 92 series with the addition of a recoil buffer and stiffer recoil spring. Virtually all the parts are interchangeable. Given the early problems with the 92 series having slides break at the locking block, I don't think I would want a 96. The long and the short of it is, I would rather just get a proper 10mm auto. If it can take a barrel for 40S&W and 357 Sig, all the better!
Ironically, the first centerfire handguns I ever fired were the Beretta 92 and Beretta 96 back in 2003. My friend had them. I remember the 96 being massive feeling, but his 92 was a compact model. All these years I thought that the 96 was bigger than the standard 92 frame but now that you confirm it's not, that compact version must be smaller than I realized than the original frame. I was just reading last night how the .40 S&W became really popular only due to the high capacity ban, so people would rather have 10 rounds of .40 S&W than a neutered 10 round mag of 9mm. I love finding new information I never knew before, but it makes sense. I never measured the slides and frames with my G2C's, but my M&P 40 is just a hair wider of a slide than the 9mm slide, but I think the frames are the same size. That would be cool if a Glock .45 ACP could take a conversion .40 S&W barrel. I never looked into that, but starting with a Glock 21 and having not only 10mm, but .40 S&W and .357 Sig barrels would be sweet. The only issue is I think currently only the .45 ACP and 10mm magazines will fit the large frame Glock. I'm sure they might feed .40 S&W and .357 Sig from that 10mm mag, but there might be some issues with that. Probably easily fixed by an aftermarket maker of mags.
@@GunSam The only real difference between 40 S&W and 10mm Auto ammunition is going to be the cartridge length. So I would think the cartridges would sit in a 10mm magazine just fine. There may be some issue with them tending to creep forward under recoil though. I'm not sure if the few mm of difference matters enough or not. My recollection of the 40 coming to be was the FBI had problems with the excessive recoil of the 10mm autos of the day. So they started getting downloaded ammunition. S&W came up with the idea of making the case shorter for better powder burn efficiency. Essentially you can say the 40 is a 10mm Kurz. The 40 certainly did get popular during the AWB. 10 40 > 10 9mm. That's also about the era when gun companies started to make really compact 9mm pistols. If you can't have a 15 round magazine, why build such a big gun? I find it hilariously ironic that the AWB spurred on some innovation in the small arms department.
My son has a G2C in 9mm and it has been very reliable. The mags are hard to load but the pistol just works. Looks like NOT buying a 40 was a good choice!
My 9mm G3C has functioned flawlessly for 3 years. I've never had any issues with any of my Taurus firearms. Nice video. And that FTF is a magazine problem and dirty chamber.
@GunSam if the mag is out if spec the catch might not be sitting in the mag groove properly. It's a stretch guess though. I'd fully load the mags. Let them set overnight and see if it loosens the spring. I had a Glock 30 that would not accept a full mag because the sides bowed out and wouldn't insert correctly. Taking one round out fixed it. My 9mm G2 has been fine but haven't put enough rounds through it to be certain.
Interesting. I have owned my 9mm g2c for a month now and have fired 300ish rounds of cheap blazer 115gr fmj and have no issues. Even with an aftermarket 15 rd pro mag. Trigger is wonky at first but once you learn it it’s nice. Good first handgun for sub $250
@@JadedGLORY2689 The Banshee was probably ~1.2k rounds in, but was cleaned, it messes up when suppressed. The MDRX was basically brand new, & randomly gives me light primer strikes, for no rhyme or reason
Ruger and S&W have always been good for me in semi auto or revolver. The only exceptions are my Ruger LCP and a Ruger P95 I used to have, both semi autos had some reliability issues. I have never seen a S&W revolver or semi auto jam, except for like 5 or 6 in my lifetime with my M&P 40. I used to own a S&W 915 and own an M&P 9 currently, and never once have those malfunctioned in thousands of rounds, many many thousands of JHP ammo.
@@Soli_Deo_Gloria_. Well that's the thing. If I get an LCP and it don't run, and someone is like, no the II is the same thing but actually works! Trust me! I am like, okay buddy.
If your life depends on it you can spend a couple hundred more on something that can save your life. Never had great luck with Taurus semi autos. Sorry I’m sure haters are out there like I’ve put 10,000 rounds through mine but it’s hit or miss with Taurus. Coming from someone that works at a gun store. I’ve seen several come through with random part breakages.
I worked in a gun store for quite a few years sold many G2c never had a complaint or one comeback. It looks like a mag issue. I would disassemble it clean it up check out the spring. Good news Taurus has a lifetime warranty. Contact them send a copy of the video.
I find one word of that hard to believe at all, Taurus lifetime warrnty isn't worth crap because IF they ever do anything for you you will be waititng damn near a lifetime getting it back from them only to have it be just as bad or worse when you get it back or they do nothing and just sdend it back, read some of the forums out there and you will see these complaints by the ton.
Tbh I must have gotten lucky with my purchase because everyone says Taurus (especially the g series) are unreliable but I picked up a g2c used on gun broker for $130 and it I’ve abused the hell out of it and it has never not ran. No matter the ammo/conditions/drill it has never ever jammed or failed to feed or anything
That’s too bad with the problems in the new gun . I also was thinking of the 40 S&W over 9 n what the recoil difference would be. Was thinking the TH40. Gr8 video n thanks for sharing your honest thoughts and opinions!!!
A suggestion. Those look like MecGar magazines. MecGar makes the magazines for Beretta & Sig and several others. Some of the factories buy the magazines disassemble to save a coin or two. CZ is notorious for buying those and installing the spring backwards. Causes what you're experiencing. Try taking the magazine apart and reversing the spring.
My most recent video is a follow up to this one. While bad magazines could have been a part of the issue, Taurus replaced a bunch of stuff suggesting the problem was more than that.
Oiling the bullets AT ALL can let them seep some oil inside and degrade the powder, causing weak squib loads that jam in the barrel. If a shot sounds odd STOP SHOOTING and check the bore! Firing a second round on top of a jammed bore will AT LEAST cause a bulge in the barrel if not blow it up! It happened to me when I was young and self-taught.........................elsullo
I never hgad nags drip out on me. FTF and nose diving rds i had. New Stoeger mags for my STR-9SC had that issue. I disassembled the mags, cleaned them and put a little lube to the spring. That fixed rhe issue. Hooe you figure out what causes the mag drop.
Wow!! Good to see this. Guess there’s a reason it’s 250-300ish$. I’ve heard some people say they’re a good value, but to me, it’s a total waste of money if it doesn’t work 99.9999999999999999% of the time. Expensive paperweight
Me personally I don't like 40sw I carry the g2c in 9mm with the taurus factory 17 round mag plus 1, I've had over 1500 rounds with no problems, oiled it out of the box and it ran just like my glock 43x. Now I can't speak for the 40s by taurus for say I've never owned one.
68 yr old Noob here. I ordered a Kimber r7 Mako and a Mossberg mc2c and I'm on my 8 day waiting period currently. I never had the desire to own firearms but as I have read of those that would remove our 2nd amendment rights I've decided it's better late than never.So I was interested in purchasing a Taurus g2 mainly for it's low price but the comments section here has given me big time second thoughts.Gonna wait a bit and if all goes smoothly with my BCI check ( I have no arrest record) I will get the IWI Massada that has my attention.
Sound like a fresh brand new gun. Old Taurus yes it'll jam. But the a 15 maybe 20 year old Taurus they tke th patent from glock after glock didn't renew it. Slam the mag in. A newer Taurus works just fine. But watch the 45 ammo hollows. Gotta break the gun in
I’ve owned 2 Taurus semi autos and kept jamming bc of the magazines. Was able to fix bith but that I think is ridicules that you have to do that on brand new guns. I’ve owned 3 Taurus revolvers and they worked perfectly so I think they are more of a revolver company than semi. Kinda like Ruger. Idk
I have shot semi-automatics of various quality and calibers. There is always a malfunction sooner or later. I have shot revolvers for the same amount of time, and have yet to come across a severe malfunction. In an emergency, I rather have seven reliable rounds of 357, than 16 "potential" rounds.
Same here. Having a UA-cam channel, every week or so someone is "semi auto is just tap rack bang, but a revolver you have to send to gunsmith for malfunction". I laugh, as tap rack bang usually doesn't solve the problem, and I been shooting dozens of revolvers and hand loading tens of thousands of rounds to shoot over the past 15 years, and never once had a malfunction in a revolver.
I would literally be in disbelief if I had not seen this review with my own eyes. Perhaps the feed ramp on the 40 cal simply hates your ammo selection??? I'm giving lots and lots of benefit of the doubt on this one, though. As far as the random (but consistent) mag drops are concerned, it seems like a design flaw - could the recoil impulse through the frame be jarring the mag loose from its latch which is why it happens on the 40 cal and not the 9mm???
It is possible to get multiple bad magazines, even at the same time. Were they Friday mags or Monday mags? The dropping could have been frome the misaligned spring, or a follower issue. I hope you get all the issued resolved, although you DEFINITELY got your tap, rack, tap, rack, rip drills in.😏
One thing I have noticed throughout the years, is that tap-rack-bang only works like 25% of the time. Vastly different than the people who constantly repeat to me "when a revolver jams, it needs a gunsmith but if an auto does it's just tap rack bang!". Real world lol - I have never had a revolver jam and tap rack bang rarely works.
@@GunSam REvolver = REliable. On a dead round, one just pulls the trigger again and a fresh cartridge comes into battery, no other action needed. One has to be HUGELY abusive to damage a revolver's magazine. IF a revolver jams, it generally makes a much better club than an autoloader. I like both platforms, but K.I.S.S. theory favors the revolver A LOT.
You got a bad one buddy! But…….to my knowledge only one gun was expressly designed around the 40 S&W, Beretta’s PX-4. Everything else was a converted 9mm and they don’t have great longevity compared to the original 9mm.
Painful, sorry for the bad lot on that one, I’ve had several Taurus pistol issues, many are good, but Taurus has given me several returns as opposed to other manufacturers, aside from less than a $100 Saturday night autos, Taurus for me has given me some lemons. Both auto and revolvers of which one was quickly discontinued.
But the point was to get the identical pistol as the 9mm I have but in .40 S&W to eliminate every single variable so that the ammo performance stood out when I compared those two calibers in ballistic testing.
Yeah I've been fairly lucky with the Taurus Revolvers as of late. I've never owned a Taurus Semi Auto and never will. If I ever purchase a entry level "value" level semi auto it's always going to be Ruger. Their customer service is amazing and you can get a bad one once in a while at that price point. They take care of it no questions asked. My higher end Semi's are CZ and H&K since I prefer da/sa autos. That's a bummer though and 40's a great caliber.
You may be right, however - their TX22 is a great pistol. For $300 it's really good, and one doesn't have to care so much about brand when it's a little toy like that. But I would never carry a Taurus unless I had to. There's a reason my truck gun biometric safe contains an M&P 40 and not this lol
My buddy was given a G2c 9mm. It double fed, stove piped and had light primer strikes every 2 to 3 rounds. I couldn't believe it. Someone was paid to make that gun, and what were they doing? Smoking doooobies? I think so.
I shouldn't have to mention this, but people think (for some reason) that when I purchase a firearm like this, that I do it for personal defense and I am dumb for buying a Taurus. You guys have to realize, I am a gun channel. I used to use only better brands for testing until I got bugged to death to start using budget firearms so people who can't afford better ones, can see their guns used as well. After I do that, it's non stop complaining that I use Taurus. I just can't win.
But honestly, I buy most of my handguns for ballistic testing, so saving a few bucks helps me to be able to buy guns and also do ballistic tests, because ammo is expensive. I make a LOT less money on here than people think, partly because I purposely remain unsponsored and shill-less. You are welcome.
Also, I keep getting the "Not another Taurus, you have had nothing but bad luck with them, WHY?!". This is definitely the Mandela effect going on. I bought a Taurus 605 in 2019 and G2C 9mm in 2020 and ran them for 2/3 years with no problems. Then in 2022 I got an 856 with some issues so I sent it back and they replaced it. In 2023 I got a TX22 and it has been the best pistol in .22 LR I have ever owned.
So before the G2C .40 S&W purchase, I had 3 of 4 of their handguns run GREAT, and the two semi autos of theirs I already had, had no issues, it was a 50/50 success rate with their revolvers from my experience and a 100% success rate with their semi autos up until that point. There was no reason to think that the Taurus G2C in .40 S&W was going to be junk, yet for some reason people remember me having nothing but trouble with all my Taurus handguns. Why? Why do people think that unless they are confusing me with someone else?
Also I filmed this almost 2 months ago. I ran several ballistic test videos with this G2C .40 S&W, and in a couple of them I had zero issues and in one I had a lot of issues before I fully fixed the magazines. The magazines were full of rusty grit, the springs were twisted odd and the feed lips were not in spec. The gun feeds good now but the magazine release still gets actuated once in awhile no matter what I do. I tried both left and right side of the frame with no true success at eliminating the issue. I may get a grip sleeve to push my hands away from the actual frame more.
Good shet my man. Keep up the great testing, your contributions are greatly appreciated.
Don’t feel bad, I had a Ruger P97 that dropped its mag during firing.
@@daleswalley7226 In my experience, mag drops with pistols where every other thing is ruled out, means that there is too much power for that particular pistol. Like my Glock 41 in .45 ACP. Uses the .45/10mm frame, but the slide is thin so it weighs less than the original large frame Glock. If I run most ammo it runs fine, hot +P ammo and the mag drops. I think the same thing is going on here where it's fine in the 9mm G2C, but trying to go up in power in a gun that is not meant for that power, jolts the mag release in some way from the extra recoil.
@@daleswalley7226 btw I had a Ruger P95 once. It gave Ruger a bad name in my case. I was new to guns at the time so I figured it malfunctioning twice per magazine was normal. Apparently it had a bad extractor, as when I called them and told them the issue, they immediately said that was it and they were sending a new one. That fixed it briefly but months later the issue came back, and I had to have a new extractor sent again. Apparently the way those slide in extractors are, they lose their heat treat very quickly so the needed bend to grab the case, slowly goes straight.
@GunSam I had the same problem with my G2C 40. The only way I got the mags to take all 10 without excessive force and to stop the nose dives was to flip the mag spring upside-down (smaller end up) and put the highest part of the spring towards the front to support the nose. The spring ends are not the same on mine and the springs were lifting the primer end more than the nose. YMMV, mine never dropped mags though.Thanks for all you do.
I enjoyed a g2c in 9 for couple years. I’m not a Taurus fan but that unit impressed me and was 100% reliable.
What this video showed was your impressive ability to refrain from screaming profanities.
Zen and the Art of Constant Malfunction Clearing by Gun Sam
That's why I like revolvers the mag doesn't fall out and no failure to feed
Oh I've had a Taurus .44 cylinder fall out! Pulled it out to check for rust and the cylinder dropped to the floor. I bought it new, hadn't fired it much.
Sent it back but they didn't fix it properly. (Only replaced the screw that held the cylinder crane on, they didn't replace the grooved part that was worn by the screw so quickly) Sold it with disclosure.
If you just get a quality made semi auto this won’t be an issue. You’re risking issues with any cheap firearm
They may not suffer failure to feeds but they experience plenty of other failures. They go out of time, sometimes they come from the factory out of time, the cylinders will lock up on you tighter than a bank vault, and light strike issues can plague them too. I had a Taurus 85 that light striked probably 40% of the time. Know how useful that is as a carry piece? Not at all. Bought a Wolff spring kit to fix it and that got it down to around a 25% failure to ignite the primer rate. Greeaatttt....And yes, trigger springs break on revolvers too and revolvers are waayyy less tolerant of lack of cleaning before they start operating incorrectly versus an auto. These are my experiences.
rEvOlVeRs nEvEr fAiL
@@billyjoel_bub I bought a Ruger Security Six years ago and if I put a little resistance on the cylinder it would not lock on cocking. I took it back to the gun store and because it was a Ruger they didn’t believe me, until they tested it. They immediately replaced it for me with a new Ruger.
Filmed February 21st 2024. I have since, got the magazine reliability completely fixed. The springs were twisted in a weird way, the feed lips were very out of spec and the entire magazine body was filled with rusty grit- however the magazine drop continues to be a problem.
At 7:33 to 7:57, I knew there was one round in the magazine, so after I fired two shots I knew the pistol was empty, but I kept my finger on the trigger for no reason. I can't recall why I did that, but it's not a normal thing I do. I know it's no excuse, however I was alone out there and I know people get "triggered" about this sort of thing, so I thought I would explain that and admit it was poor gun handling.
I wanted to put a secondary reply to my pinned comment, as a few comments on this video have reminded me of hundreds of comments I have gotten on a few other videos where I used Taurus handguns, and I want to address those comments.
I constantly get the same comment over and over again - that I have had 'nothing but trouble' with Taurus, and people ask how could I be so dumb as to buy another one when I had trouble with every one etc etc.
Apparently the Mandela effect is happening here, because none of that is true. Other than a Taurus in 2009 I owned that had a transfer bar break, my experience is this: in 2019 I decided to try Taurus again so I got a 605, then in 2020 I got a G2C 9mm - both rand flawlessly for 2-3 years, so I bought an 856 in 2022 with some problems. That was a year long experience with Taurus to get that one gun right, but it was only ONE of their guns.
Then in 2023 I got a TX22 - and again, no issues.
So going into my G2C .40 S&W purchase, my current time frame with Taurus experience - 2019 and after, was that I had four Taurus firearms, one revolver with an issue and two semi autos that were flawless.
There would be no reason that I would think that a G2C .40 S&W would have any issues at all based on my experience with the two previous semi autos, and ONLY semi autos I owned from them, because they were perfect.
Yet for some reason, that ONE Taurus 856 'Mandela effected' into this thing, where every Taurus firearm I ever owned was garbage, and while knowing this information, I keep brainlessly buying them. Like, where do you all get this stuff from? It's not from me or my experiences.
I’m assuming Taurus doesn’t test fire their guns prior to boxing? Do other manufacturers test fire prior to boxing? Thanks Sam
@@stuartstuart866 They typically fire one proof round at higher than spec pressure, and that's about it as far as I know. When it comes to true quality control where a gun is put through the paces, companies tend to just select one off the line in that batch, or one for ever few hundred, and put that one through testing rather than test every gun. It would be too expensive to run a magazine through every firearm.
“Triggered”, 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I had some issues with magazine releasing when firing the g2c 40, it stopped after break in, and I also changed my grip a bit, I believe I was occasionally touching the mag release with my thumb because of the extra recoil (compared to the g2c 9)
Wow - you got a real ringer there. I have Taurus compacts in 9mm and .40 S&W and have NEVER had a failure to feed or to eject, across all the different ammo I have fired in both pistols, from fresh out of the box. YMMV is a VERY real thing.
What interested me was your initial comment that the .40 would be snappier than the 9mm. In my case, the opposite is true; the 9mm is noticeably snappier in recoil than the .40 - perhaps a recoil spring difference, but I had 3 others shoot them side by side, and confirmed that the .40 was "softer" shooting with less muzzle rise. Faster back on target every time.
Very interesting contrast in experiences with similar guns - especially with respect to reliability. Of course, any gun with a dirty or damaged action can go up in smoke in reliability and turn 180 when cleaned and oiled. Thanks for the video; more info is better than less!
That Taurus would be perfect to keep in your tackle box, an awesome fishing weight .
Lol
I received a GC2 .40 many years ago as part of that class action lawsuit against Taurus. While the trigger is a little "spongy", I have never had any problems with the gun or the mags.
Oh . . I've replaced plastic Guide Rod with a stainless rod in my G2C. Haven't had any FTF issues yet.
Use slide release see if that helps
Clean it well and try it again. If it still acts up send it back to Taurus. I've owned several of their revolvers and pistols and all worked flawlessly. Good luck and thanks for the video as usual.
That’s what I said you should clean and oil any new gun this shooting fresh out of the box is UA-cam crap with no merit
Taurus has improved so much in the past few decades.
Bought a G2c .40 about a month ago just for the heck of it and so far not a single issue I did oiled before shooting it, something I believe this guy didn’t do
Facts my shit only jammed bc of limp wristing after that had no problems
I've owned 5 Taurus pistols in my life and I can honestly say not a single one worked properly. Took a while but I learned to not buy the brand any more.
YEP I have owned 34 different Taurus handguns over the years Because I kept trying to give them a chance to redeeme themselves and I do like thier designs, only 2 of them were ever worth a crap and then just barely, I have even had friends and my nephew who recieved a Taurus revolver as a pressent from his girlfriend come to the same conclussion, Taurus is JUNK,, and as a company Taurus is crap (just try dealing with them if you have an issue I have 3 times and they never did crap to take care of fixing thier crap or making it right), if Taurus became the onkly gun out there then I would just stop my gun hobby because I have no desire to buy a headache when there is enough headaches in life without paying for one, Taurus can suck it WAYYYYY better options out there that don't hardly cost any more these days.
I have 6 Taurus firearms. 4 autos and 2 revolvers. The autos need lube and some breaking in. One spectrum I had to polish and file the ramp but after that it works flawless. For the money I don't mind tinkering with them if necessary.
I bought two Taurus g2c 9mm,pt845 45acp I also reload medium 45super loads,tracker 44mag, spectrum 380acp, 2 mod 605 defender in 357mag, rossi brawler 45/ 410single shot I'm not going to say how hot I've tested it, I gave my daughter my trusty rossi md 720 in 44special that's a dream to shoot. all these work flawlessly and accurately. just as reliable as my higher value pistols/revolvers. papa wishing you well. 😊
I have a Chevy pickup, have flats all the time, don't think I'll ever buy another one
I heard the tires raging bull revolver is pretty good , but I’m not getting one 😂😂😂😂😂
I sent my Taurus GX4 back to Taurus twice. My Taurus 942 revolver was defective out of the box, would not ignite ANY primers. Still waiting on that one.
I had that issue on an older Taurus rimfire, I think the 94 it was. Would set off like 3 of 9 shots and no more, consistently, with CCI it was closer to 9 of 9. Once they make the spring good enough to ignite, it will snap your transfer bar.
You are not rambling. You are very informative. Keep those videos rolling.
I've had both and never had an issue great Firearms
Reminds me of when I had a S&W Victory. Sent that gun back so many times it had frequent flier miles. Replaced every part on it twice. Gave up and traded it.
Gun Sam I have a g2c and 40 S&W also it really only likes 155 grain and lower weight ammunition anything over that it'll Jam like crazy and will not run but the 155 Federal FMJ run really good in it they're pretty hot and 1:35 grain spear the ones that are made of stuff that you can shoot steel targets up close it works with those pretty well as well so I decided to splurge and I bought a g3c in the 40s and W and over and every weight bullet through that thing 500 rounds so far zero issues it eats everything I feed it way better pistol than the g2c so even though you like the two see you're used to it the trigger the overall feel accuracy is much better on the 3C just FYI thanks and keep up the good work
Mine didn’t fully go into battery maybe twice but it was expected my first time shooting it new. Never had any issues out of my G2c 40 100% reliable no questions about it I recommend it to everybody
Almost every Taurus I've owned had problems. Your G2 may not cycle properly and inexplicably drops magazines, but my PT111 Gen 2 9mm came new, in the box, with a dead trigger. I sent it back, and after a few months it was returned to me with a cryptic note saying "adjusted trigger". As a result I've never carried it.
I have a PT145 which is like a 45 ACP version on the PT111 and it drops certain mags when shooting. Also, if I load the full 10 rounds in the mag the first round will nose dive and get stuck on the bottom of the feed ramp. If I load the mag to just 9 rounds it runs fine. I only use it for the range. It' also a pre-recall gun which means if you hold the trigger back while putting on the safety you can fire one shot with the safety on.
Taurus is a complete dumpster fire
I have a g2c 9 mm and it's super reliable. Never had any jams or misfires.
I only own two Taurus handguns. One is a model 85 2" snub 38 I purchased in the early nineties and, outside of a very heavy trigger pull, it has been completely reliable and fairly accurate all these years. My other is a TX22 Competiton SCR. I did modify it quite a bit with Tandemkross aftermarket parts but it has also been very reliable (for a 22LR semi-auto!) and is more accurate than my Sig P320 22LR. I did own a model 92 Beretta clone when they just started making them years ago after purchasing old Beretta machinery. Unlike a buddy's example of the same model, mine never reliably fed hollow points, so I sold it. I can't say any of their other offerings ever interested me though.
I wear an XLG glove, am a leftie and never switch the mag release to the right side of the frame b/c I always bump it under recoil if I set it up for a southpaw. I learned to use the middle finger of my left hand in firearms training before the controls could be changed.
I tried that, and it did the same thing. My last 3 or 4 videos with ammo tests have the mag release on the right. Mixed results. Drops no matter the side.
This is why, for me, the revolver is my go-to firearm. Granted, less ammo capacity, but I don't expect the whole army to come after me.
Don't judge all semi autos by a junk assed Taurus. Out of all the handguns I own the only 2 that I've ever had any issues with are the 2 Taurus revolvers. I'll never buy another Taurus product. There's a reason why there garbage is so "inexpensive".
I love revolvers, but as a whole they have been less reliable out of the box than pistols I own. I even had to send back a $1450 performance center Smith and Wesson to get it to run right.
I sleep pretty well having a GP-100 in .357 Magnum as a nightstand and campsite gun.
Revolver simplicity rocks 5,6,8 even 10 for sure!! rather than 19 maybe!!??
@@janmale7767until a primer backs our a bullet walks forward. Stripping star, etc plenty of wonder nines make it through several 1000 round classes without fail. While most revolvers see less than 250
I have a Taurus G2C 40 cal also. It does the same thing yours is doing, although not quite as bad. It got a little better after I put some rounds through it & cleaned it, but is still unreliable. If you figure it out please do a video explaining what’s going on. Thank you.
Lakeline LLC internals, and guide rod. Then you need the keep tinkering trigger! makes it a whole new gun. Do that then let me know how you feel about it💪🏾 not sure about the mag problems you are having though.
My g2c 9mm has been completely reliable, I can't say that about all Taurus's I have owned!
My Taurus 66 works flawlessly. It always goes bang.
That’s so discouraging. I had a PT111 from Taurus years ago that had an extraction issue out of the gate. They fixed it and it’s great now but it always bugged me. Recently I bought a SW Shield Plus and it had a firing pin issue the first mag. Sent it back and it’s working good. Just put 200 rounds through it yesterday. QC is not great anywhere now. I hope it gets fixed quickly. Love your channel. Thank you for all the good content.
Thank you. Yeah, I like things to run out of the gate. People get mad when I don't clean a gun before unboxing it. But to me, if a gun can't run due to packing grease and dust, there's no way I will trust it just because I cleaned it. Dirty guns might give some issues one jam every 100 rounds, not every shot almost.
Ignorant logic I’m sure the directions from any gun tell you to clean and oil first but you seem to make up your own logic with no merit but then blame someone else when it fails
Hi gun Sam awsome as always. God bless. Thank you for the info. 😊
A Maglula Uplula pistol magazine loader makes loading a breeze. It works with single or double stacks.
I'm so glad that someone has my luck, you bought my gun. I've had run-ins with Taurus/Rossi on warranty concerns, one was enough, never again. Sorry for the problems in this video, but I'm glad that you showed this just the same.
Thank you so much for your videos! I purchased the Taurus G2C 40 a few months ago and just recently it started jamming just like yours did. But the magazines didn’t pop out like yours. I was using Hornady Critical Defense HPs and every round jammed. I switched to the Federal FMJ Target rounds with the red tipped bullets and they cycled through. I ordered some Federal Punch 40 S&W HPs and if they jam I’ll probably get rid of the gun because it’s so unreliable!!! I also own another budget gun, a Hi Point JCP 40 S&W and it’s never jammed once but it’s pretty heavy to use as a hiking pistol (I use it for protection against black bears, cougars and feral dogs). My preferred carry is either my Keltec P17 22 LR which I use Federal Punch or my Armscorp 38 Special 2” snubnose (and much much thanks for all of your 38 Special videos!!!) and I usually use 158 gr Critical Defense HPs with that. Although I’m a big guy at 6’4” tall and 260 pounds I prefer really small and light pistols/ revolvers because I’m a wildlife photographer and with my camera and lenses and a daypack filled with food, water and extra clothes, a heavy weapon isn’t desirable when hiking 5-10 miles. When I’m photographing grizzlies in Montana and Wyoming my primary weapon is bear spray and my secondary is my Hi Point JCP 40, both I’ve never had to unhoster. Thanks again for your channel!
Had the same problem with G2c, the magazine kept falling out, and then it would not chamber a round. Now the slide will not fully close. This was my personal carry gun, but I'm done with this one going back to revolver, more reliable.
Taurus Imperfection.
Yet everyone complains about Glock perfection. At least Glock works - Period.
@@ratagris21 Glocks are boring, but they do make bad people go away.
I had a failure to feed/eject in my g²c 40sw. I bought a new recoil spring from lakeline, and it runs flawlessly now.
I’ve been assisting with or teaching CHL classes for the past few months. In each class there’s at least one Taurus G2/3. Some are brand new and some look like they were borrowed or bought used. Most have worked better than the operator. One with problems was more likely from ammo reloaded with faulty primers as the misfires showed decent primer strikes. The only TX22 with problems that I’ve seen was from an operator who bought it new and a friend had instructed him not to clean or lube it until he’d fired a hundred rounds. Unfortunately that round count was in the middle of a CHL class/qualification. It was just too dry and gritty to function reliably with standard velocity 22. If a student will admit to such concerns before beginning, I carry a bottle of lube for those occasions.
I decided to order the LEO trade-in Gen 4 G23 from Aim Surplus for $299... on sale, yeah, it only comes with one mag.... but I know it will be reliable. Again, thanks for the review. Folks, I would not let this keep you from getting a G3 9mm or a G2C 9mm...
Taurus is the UA-cam of guns.
Had two Taurus revolvers that malfunctioned.
I like Taurus, but only their revolvers. I have the 856 snub which I love, but I eventually gave up on their semi autos. I know others may not have had any issues with them but I tried to make it work and experienced constant f2f. There are no perfect tools and anything can fail, I understand that but my G2/3 series experiment was done. I had to take a loss and hire a new guy, Mr. Shield plus. 3 years, hundreds of rounds later I find it quite dependable. Great video!
I have a 50% success rate. I won't go into the past too much, but currently I have a G2C in 9mm that works great, a G2C in .40 S&W that is obviously garbage. I have a 605 revolver that has been great, but an 856 that is a little better than garbage, but has problems.
Your experience with the last revolver from Taurus has kept me from buying a 605. Now with this G2c I am really hung up. If I could get a 605 as reliable as yours I would get one. I’m a Glock ‘fan boy’, old man now. Take care, enjoy your experiments.
I had a taurus g2c 40 s&w and never had the mag fall out. I did, however, have the same failure to feed issues. I thought it was a mag issue because it was very stiff, but I never figured it out. Just sold the damn thing. I was going to buy another one, but this video reminded me of what happened with mine, I completely forgot about it. Don't know if I will buy one now.
Love Taurus all of mine have always worked well. I started with the G2C, then G3C, G3, GX4, TX-22, and the 942. They have all performed well for me. Maybe I'm lucky?
Pardner, you sure have your problems with Taurus. I guess you finally got your revolver troubles fixed, right? I have a TH40 and it runs fine. Planning to buy a TH 10, as soon as I find one new. Mine was gritty at first but you can smooth it out with break-in.
Even though it’s not the problem, I have had some recent bad luck with Blazer Brass .40. Mine was with .40 165 & 180 grain. Multiple malfunctions in my Gen 4 Glock 22. After a few boxes with issues, I switched to some Magtech I had on hand and the issues disappeared.
I'd take the mag apart and check the plastic follower for any molding issues and check to see if the mag base plate is too thick to let the mag go in all the way the spring maybe to long or the wrong one
That is a NEW pistol. The oily substance coating the pistol and the magazines is NOT a lubricant. It is a corrosion inhibitor which collects dirt and dust. However the pistol won't rust and that's the point. First thing is to clean and then lightly oil the pistol and the magazines. Be sure to completely remove all the corrosion inhibitor before lightly oiling.
There was no coating of anything on it. Was dry
Wow! I have a Taurus G2C and a model 44 44 mag and have about 300 rounds in each with no problem. I guess it’s a hit and miss I don’t know?
Try swapping the magazine spring from one of the 9mm G2C mags and see if the problem occurs. If they're compatible that is.
Gun Sam, I would send the pistol and the video to Taurus and I'm sure they would fix that pistol. I have heard their customer service is really good. Sucks to buy something that does not work well right from the start. It looked like those mags needed attention. I'm Glad you went thru them and got them working better. Thanks for putting out all the data that You do as always. God Bless You brother.
Taurus customer service sucks crap you must have a hearing problem
I had to send one back to Taurus, had it back in 10 days.
I’ve also heard Taurus’ warranty is great. On the other hand, if you’re on a tight budget or live in a one-gun-a-month state and need to have your new pistol available, having to be without it for however long it takes for warranty to fix it might be too long.
I own several Taurus revolvers - they are a mixed bag. Some are good, some are bad and needed work. The warranty service is mediocre, certainly not up to S&W or Ruger quality. The best ones are the older ones, especially .38 Special. The worst is a .22 revolver. The guys at the local range have the same opinion of the Taurus semi-auto pistols, some work well others (too many) have to go back to Taurus for warranty work.
I have had identical experiences. Their rimfire will just snap a transfer bar. Some of their revolvers are good, some bad. Same with semi autos, but it's like the semi autos are a tad more comparable to a better brand than their revolvers are. Taurus is a pain to deal with, often don't seem to see smaller problems, such as a mag drop or whatever - they just shoot it "in spec" and send it back. Ruger is easy to deal with but they don't always fix everything. S&W just fixes your gun, ignores your emails, then sends it back...albeit, fixed properly.
@@GunSam Amen, brother. My gunsmith who is really good, dislikes to work on Taurus guns. He has done it for me when Taurus sent a gun back stating that is shoots "within specs" or some other lame excuse for not fixing the problem. Thanks for another excellent video.
I've owned exactly one .40 S&W pistol. I got it back during the AWB, so it only had ten round mags. It was full size. It was a Smith & Wesson 40 EV or SV, I don't recall. Anyway, it had no feeding issues and was pleasant to shoot with target ammo. What made me sell it was the rear sight shot off in the first mag. Apparently the dove tail in the slide was cut too large. It was a "Sigma" series that Glock sued S&W for over the trigger design.
I think the basic problem with most 40s is that they are built on 9mm frames rather than 10mm/45 ACP frames. From what I understand, the Beretta 96 series is the same as the 92 series with the addition of a recoil buffer and stiffer recoil spring. Virtually all the parts are interchangeable. Given the early problems with the 92 series having slides break at the locking block, I don't think I would want a 96.
The long and the short of it is, I would rather just get a proper 10mm auto. If it can take a barrel for 40S&W and 357 Sig, all the better!
Ironically, the first centerfire handguns I ever fired were the Beretta 92 and Beretta 96 back in 2003. My friend had them. I remember the 96 being massive feeling, but his 92 was a compact model. All these years I thought that the 96 was bigger than the standard 92 frame but now that you confirm it's not, that compact version must be smaller than I realized than the original frame. I was just reading last night how the .40 S&W became really popular only due to the high capacity ban, so people would rather have 10 rounds of .40 S&W than a neutered 10 round mag of 9mm. I love finding new information I never knew before, but it makes sense. I never measured the slides and frames with my G2C's, but my M&P 40 is just a hair wider of a slide than the 9mm slide, but I think the frames are the same size. That would be cool if a Glock .45 ACP could take a conversion .40 S&W barrel. I never looked into that, but starting with a Glock 21 and having not only 10mm, but .40 S&W and .357 Sig barrels would be sweet. The only issue is I think currently only the .45 ACP and 10mm magazines will fit the large frame Glock. I'm sure they might feed .40 S&W and .357 Sig from that 10mm mag, but there might be some issues with that. Probably easily fixed by an aftermarket maker of mags.
@@GunSam The only real difference between 40 S&W and 10mm Auto ammunition is going to be the cartridge length. So I would think the cartridges would sit in a 10mm magazine just fine. There may be some issue with them tending to creep forward under recoil though. I'm not sure if the few mm of difference matters enough or not.
My recollection of the 40 coming to be was the FBI had problems with the excessive recoil of the 10mm autos of the day. So they started getting downloaded ammunition. S&W came up with the idea of making the case shorter for better powder burn efficiency. Essentially you can say the 40 is a 10mm Kurz.
The 40 certainly did get popular during the AWB. 10 40 > 10 9mm. That's also about the era when gun companies started to make really compact 9mm pistols. If you can't have a 15 round magazine, why build such a big gun?
I find it hilariously ironic that the AWB spurred on some innovation in the small arms department.
In 40 S&W I prefer the 165 gr loads.
My son has a G2C in 9mm and it has been very reliable. The mags are hard to load but the pistol just works. Looks like NOT buying a 40 was a good choice!
My 9mm G3C has functioned flawlessly for 3 years. I've never had any issues with any of my Taurus firearms.
Nice video. And that FTF is a magazine problem and dirty chamber.
Even with it fixed, doesn't explain why a magazine falls free from it. Chamber was pretty clean.
Sure they work fine if you never actually use them, Taurus is CRAP face it.
@GunSam if the mag is out if spec the catch might not be sitting in the mag groove properly. It's a stretch guess though. I'd fully load the mags. Let them set overnight and see if it loosens the spring. I had a Glock 30 that would not accept a full mag because the sides bowed out and wouldn't insert correctly. Taking one round out fixed it.
My 9mm G2 has been fine but haven't put enough rounds through it to be certain.
Also the jamming part if u still own the g2c 40 take it apart and stretch the spring
Interesting. I have owned my 9mm g2c for a month now and have fired 300ish rounds of cheap blazer 115gr fmj and have no issues. Even with an aftermarket 15 rd pro mag. Trigger is wonky at first but once you learn it it’s nice. Good first handgun for sub $250
I also have a 9mm G2C and owned it for 4 years, thousands of rounds, nearly 100% reliable.
Thank you for the video.
That's what you call a bummer of a range day: happened to me using my CMMG Banshee 300, then my Desert Tech MDRX
Damn that really has to suck. Were they both brand new out of the box? I like the MDRX.
@@JadedGLORY2689 The Banshee was probably ~1.2k rounds in, but was cleaned, it messes up when suppressed.
The MDRX was basically brand new, & randomly gives me light primer strikes, for no rhyme or reason
Would be curious to see you test the TH40 model. Haven't had any issues with mine.
I’ve never had an unreliable 327 Fed Mag Ruger LCR
Ruger and S&W have always been good for me in semi auto or revolver. The only exceptions are my Ruger LCP and a Ruger P95 I used to have, both semi autos had some reliability issues. I have never seen a S&W revolver or semi auto jam, except for like 5 or 6 in my lifetime with my M&P 40. I used to own a S&W 915 and own an M&P 9 currently, and never once have those malfunctioned in thousands of rounds, many many thousands of JHP ammo.
@@GunSam that’s a fact
@GunSam
Evidently you've never owned an LCP II 380 or the LCP Max... 😆👍
@@Soli_Deo_Gloria_. Well that's the thing. If I get an LCP and it don't run, and someone is like, no the II is the same thing but actually works! Trust me! I am like, okay buddy.
@@GunSam 😂
Thanks for sharing, Sam!
I own a g2c 40 gal and runs great i will say the one mag is hard to loud but the other one is smooth as butter
Good to know !
If your life depends on it you can spend a couple hundred more on something that can save your life. Never had great luck with Taurus semi autos. Sorry I’m sure haters are out there like I’ve put 10,000 rounds through mine but it’s hit or miss with Taurus. Coming from someone that works at a gun store. I’ve seen several come through with random part breakages.
I worked in a gun store for quite a few years sold many G2c never had a complaint or one comeback. It looks like a mag issue. I would disassemble it clean it up check out the spring. Good news Taurus has a lifetime warranty. Contact them send a copy of the video.
I find one word of that hard to believe at all, Taurus lifetime warrnty isn't worth crap because IF they ever do anything for you you will be waititng damn near a lifetime getting it back from them only to have it be just as bad or worse when you get it back or they do nothing and just sdend it back, read some of the forums out there and you will see these complaints by the ton.
The problem is, both mags are having issues. It could happen, but I doubt both mags are the problem here.
Tbh I must have gotten lucky with my purchase because everyone says Taurus (especially the g series) are unreliable but I picked up a g2c used on gun broker for $130 and it I’ve abused the hell out of it and it has never not ran. No matter the ammo/conditions/drill it has never ever jammed or failed to feed or anything
You have a G2C in .40 S&W that is reliable?
@@GunSam no it’s a 9mm I actually just found out they made a 40 in this video lol
That’s too bad with the problems in the new gun .
I also was thinking of the 40 S&W over 9 n what the recoil difference would be.
Was thinking the TH40.
Gr8 video n thanks for sharing your honest thoughts and opinions!!!
A suggestion. Those look like MecGar magazines. MecGar makes the magazines for Beretta & Sig and several others. Some of the factories buy the magazines disassemble to save a coin or two. CZ is notorious for buying those and installing the spring backwards. Causes what you're experiencing. Try taking the magazine apart and reversing the spring.
My most recent video is a follow up to this one. While bad magazines could have been a part of the issue, Taurus replaced a bunch of stuff suggesting the problem was more than that.
I found the you Have to keep the mags and ammo lubed with just a drop of oil to mitigate FTF issue- in all my handguns. It can't hurt!
Oiling the bullets AT ALL can let them seep some oil inside and degrade the powder, causing weak squib loads that jam in the barrel. If a shot sounds odd STOP SHOOTING and check the bore! Firing a second round on top of a jammed bore will AT LEAST cause a bulge in the barrel if not blow it up! It happened to me when I was young and self-taught.........................elsullo
Charger spring is the problem. You need change for one strong.
How much more does a Glock 23 or 27 cost than the Taurus G2 C ?
I’m just curious…
And a bit lazy !
What was the big difference between the G3 and G2? Just an update in generation?
I never hgad nags drip out on me. FTF and nose diving rds i had. New Stoeger mags for my STR-9SC had that issue. I disassembled the mags, cleaned them and put a little lube to the spring. That fixed rhe issue. Hooe you figure out what causes the mag drop.
I carry this , and the only thing I can get to cycle and feed Is MONARCH FMJ 180 grain from academy they run clean
Wow!! Good to see this. Guess there’s a reason it’s 250-300ish$. I’ve heard some people say they’re a good value, but to me, it’s a total waste of money if it doesn’t work 99.9999999999999999% of the time. Expensive paperweight
Me personally I don't like 40sw I carry the g2c in 9mm with the taurus factory 17 round mag plus 1, I've had over 1500 rounds with no problems, oiled it out of the box and it ran just like my glock 43x. Now I can't speak for the 40s by taurus for say I've never owned one.
Thanks for the testing! I WAS thinking about picking one of those up. lol.
These actually pretty he should’ve cleaned it and oiled it first I got it in.40 never no issues
68 yr old Noob here. I ordered a Kimber r7 Mako and a Mossberg mc2c and I'm on my 8 day waiting period currently. I never had the desire to own firearms but as I have read of those that would remove our 2nd amendment rights I've decided it's better late than never.So I was interested in purchasing a Taurus g2 mainly for it's low price but the comments section here has given me big time second thoughts.Gonna wait a bit and if all goes smoothly with my BCI check ( I have no arrest record) I will get the IWI Massada that has my attention.
Sound like a fresh brand new gun. Old Taurus yes it'll jam. But the a 15 maybe 20 year old Taurus they tke th patent from glock after glock didn't renew it. Slam the mag in. A newer Taurus works just fine. But watch the 45 ammo hollows. Gotta break the gun in
I’ve owned 2 Taurus semi autos and kept jamming bc of the magazines. Was able to fix bith but that I think is ridicules that you have to do that on brand new guns. I’ve owned 3 Taurus revolvers and they worked perfectly so I think they are more of a revolver company than semi. Kinda like Ruger. Idk
I inherited one of these and never shot it. Now I am curious.
I have shot semi-automatics of various quality and calibers. There is always a malfunction sooner or later. I have shot revolvers for the same amount of time, and have yet to come across a severe malfunction. In an emergency, I rather have seven reliable rounds of 357, than 16 "potential" rounds.
Same here. Having a UA-cam channel, every week or so someone is "semi auto is just tap rack bang, but a revolver you have to send to gunsmith for malfunction". I laugh, as tap rack bang usually doesn't solve the problem, and I been shooting dozens of revolvers and hand loading tens of thousands of rounds to shoot over the past 15 years, and never once had a malfunction in a revolver.
I would literally be in disbelief if I had not seen this review with my own eyes. Perhaps the feed ramp on the 40 cal simply hates your ammo selection??? I'm giving lots and lots of benefit of the doubt on this one, though. As far as the random (but consistent) mag drops are concerned, it seems like a design flaw - could the recoil impulse through the frame be jarring the mag loose from its latch which is why it happens on the 40 cal and not the 9mm???
It is possible to get multiple bad magazines, even at the same time. Were they Friday mags or Monday mags?
The dropping could have been frome the misaligned spring, or a follower issue.
I hope you get all the issued resolved, although you DEFINITELY got your tap, rack, tap, rack, rip drills in.😏
One thing I have noticed throughout the years, is that tap-rack-bang only works like 25% of the time. Vastly different than the people who constantly repeat to me "when a revolver jams, it needs a gunsmith but if an auto does it's just tap rack bang!". Real world lol - I have never had a revolver jam and tap rack bang rarely works.
@@GunSam REvolver = REliable.
On a dead round, one just pulls the trigger again and a fresh cartridge comes into battery, no other action needed. One has to be HUGELY abusive to damage a revolver's magazine. IF a revolver jams, it generally makes a much better club than an autoloader. I like both platforms, but K.I.S.S. theory favors the revolver A LOT.
You got a bad one buddy! But…….to my knowledge only one gun was expressly designed around the 40 S&W, Beretta’s PX-4. Everything else was a converted 9mm and they don’t have great longevity compared to the original 9mm.
Painful, sorry for the bad lot on that one, I’ve had several Taurus pistol issues, many are good, but Taurus has given me several returns as opposed to other manufacturers, aside from less than a $100 Saturday night autos, Taurus for me has given me some lemons. Both auto and revolvers of which one was quickly discontinued.
Great video and great review
I didn't even know they made a G2C in .40. I've heard nothing but good things on the 9mm version.
I have had nothing but good luck with my 9mm version too. And like you I didn't know there was a .40 version until recently.
I have a Chevy pickup, have flats on it all the time, I don't think I'll ever buy another one
I was considering a .40S&W compact pistol as a concealed carry gun, but I'm not feeling it with the G2C. Maybe you'll get the problem worked out.
Not a brand that I would buy.
Smart
Needs Megar mags.and a stronger mag release spring. 😬
Probably should have went with the g3c series in 40 would have way more reliable and a better trigger with better mags
But the point was to get the identical pistol as the 9mm I have but in .40 S&W to eliminate every single variable so that the ammo performance stood out when I compared those two calibers in ballistic testing.
A semi jamomatic through and through!
Yeah I've been fairly lucky with the Taurus Revolvers as of late. I've never owned a Taurus Semi Auto and never will. If I ever purchase a entry level "value" level semi auto it's always going to be Ruger. Their customer service is amazing and you can get a bad one once in a while at that price point. They take care of it no questions asked. My higher end Semi's are CZ and H&K since I prefer da/sa autos.
That's a bummer though and 40's a great caliber.
You may be right, however - their TX22 is a great pistol. For $300 it's really good, and one doesn't have to care so much about brand when it's a little toy like that. But I would never carry a Taurus unless I had to. There's a reason my truck gun biometric safe contains an M&P 40 and not this lol
M&P 40 great gun for sure!
Taurus needs a shake up in their QC Dept.
Was thinking about Taurus, but now, Naaah, pass. Thanks, great channel btw.
I’m a lefty and have this problem with this gun
My buddy was given a G2c 9mm. It double fed, stove piped and had light primer strikes every 2 to 3 rounds. I couldn't believe it. Someone was paid to make that gun, and what were they doing? Smoking doooobies? I think so.