Terrible 2-Gun: Lebel, 1892 Revolver, and a WW1 Gas Mask

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    Today, I thought it would be fun (or at least interesting) to shoot a 2-gun match in a reproduction World War One gas mask and helmet. Specifically, a
    French M2 pattern, which was used extensively by French, British, and American troops. I paired this with an Adrian helmet, a Lebel rifle, and a Modele 1892 revolver.
    The match started out badly, as it was cool enough outside in the morning for the mask to fog up significantly. Combined with small targets, my shooting in the first (pistol-only) stage was...not very good. Things got worse on the second stage, where I simply could not see the targets at all. I opted to just abandon that stage, and it was quite frustrating. Not wanting to leave without any rifle shooting at all, I abandoned the gas mask and helmet for the third stage. That one ended up being quite satisfying, despite running out of time just before making my final shot.
    It was an enlightening experience to try to engage targets in a period style gas mask. Between the total lack of peripheral vision and lens fogging, it was very difficult. I can't imagine trying to do it in a real firefight where poison gas was being used.
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  • @scipio10000
    @scipio10000 3 роки тому +1366

    I congratulate Ian for going full masochist. A MAC 35 and a MAS 36 would have been a more reasonable proposition, but no, He suffers for our entertainment.

    • @dther6314
      @dther6314 3 роки тому +49

      well, he didn't suffer with the Lebel, the last run was pretty clean, but the Gas Mask was a full masochist move

    • @scipio10000
      @scipio10000 3 роки тому +69

      @@dther6314 I beg to differ. The inner struggles and sufferings of our Lord & Savior are unfathomable by us miserable sinners, the smooth operation of the Lebel is all we could see.

    • @fludblud
      @fludblud 3 роки тому +13

      We need more 2 gun drills in historical full CBRN gear! Taking the masochism to the next level, full MOPP suit and all.

    • @TeeBar420
      @TeeBar420 3 роки тому +7

      He could have also done it in 1914 French Uniform. That would have been full masochist.

    • @scipio10000
      @scipio10000 3 роки тому +8

      @@TeeBar420 Only if in full Curassier regalia, helmet and Berthier carbine.

  • @specialagentdustyponcho1065
    @specialagentdustyponcho1065 3 роки тому +899

    On the bright side, your enemy had to wear gas masks too, and they were almost all equally terrible back then!

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 3 роки тому +33

      You can still find gasmasks for industry etc. in Germany, looking similar to wwl ones.

    • @hp9857
      @hp9857 3 роки тому +63

      But contrary to french mask, the german ones worked

    • @theluftwaffle1
      @theluftwaffle1 3 роки тому +85

      @@hp9857 who needs working gas masks when you have a piss cloth!

    • @duneydan7993
      @duneydan7993 3 роки тому +20

      @@hp9857 yeah the german design was better at the beginning, it had widder glasses than the french one if I remember correctly.

    • @duneydan7993
      @duneydan7993 3 роки тому +21

      @@hp9857 and honnestly, even the french design was great compared to the british PH helmet.

  • @JenniferinIllinois
    @JenniferinIllinois 3 роки тому +404

    Karl was in the Zone and Ian was in the trenches on the Western Front. I hope both of them are now safe. 😉

    • @KC-bg1th
      @KC-bg1th 3 роки тому +34

      Ian is unfortunately shell-shocked, claiming that right-handed guns are fine, and tactical really is _tacticool._ Karl is currently saving up money to pre-order new firearms from Shotshow because of how “innovative” everybody is.

    • @scipio10000
      @scipio10000 3 роки тому +18

      Only the Man in the High Castle can keep track of these alternate universes and their effects on our heroes.

    • @wierdalien1
      @wierdalien1 3 роки тому +3

      @@agentwashingtub9167 ian has been super busy apparently and on top of that Sinsteral has mostly been voice.

    • @beargillium2369
      @beargillium2369 3 роки тому +1

      @@agentwashingtub9167 it may have something to do with Arizona having the highest rate of coronavirus transmission in the world... Literally. They also have the highest deaths per capita. Not good.
      They're probably just trying to not die.

  • @Hubert_Cumberdale_
    @Hubert_Cumberdale_ 3 роки тому +891

    Now the fact that you can't aim down sights when wearing a gas mask in Bf1 makes sense.

    • @CeylonMondegreen
      @CeylonMondegreen 3 роки тому +192

      They put one realistic aspect of WWI armed conflict into the game and it was that one.

    • @bergfruehling
      @bergfruehling 3 роки тому +42

      I see you're still caught up in the Great War, Hubert.

    • @simonrival1613
      @simonrival1613 3 роки тому +97

      Man, even with modern gas masks it sucks.

    • @CrudeConduct666
      @CrudeConduct666 3 роки тому +8

      It always made sense

    • @mandrac2
      @mandrac2 3 роки тому +31

      that's also why gas mask tend to have the can offset to the left. when you have a gas mask with 2 cans whatever side you shoulder your rifle you just cannot aim because the cans are in the way

  • @SoWe1
    @SoWe1 3 роки тому +289

    what did the people run that scored even worse? guns without sights?

    • @RafaAelM
      @RafaAelM 3 роки тому +87

      Probably didnt managed to hit anything or dq's. Muzzle sweeping and gun malfunction too

    • @Mr_Bunk
      @Mr_Bunk 3 роки тому +51

      Muskets, maybe?

    • @joaogomes9405
      @joaogomes9405 3 роки тому +38

      Bow and arrow

    • @andreasferenczi7613
      @andreasferenczi7613 3 роки тому +67

      @@joaogomes9405 Bow & arrow would prob. have performed well in comparison...

    • @tursqa
      @tursqa 3 роки тому +57

      Plastic bag in place of the gas mask

  • @scottnichols4669
    @scottnichols4669 3 роки тому +437

    That mask looks like a horse's feed bag 🤣

    • @guypierson5754
      @guypierson5754 3 роки тому +25

      Pretty sure loads of the lads called them exactly that, the Feed Bag. Feed Bag being worn this year by all fashionistas, with the always stylish Battle Bowler.

    • @AngryB4ker
      @AngryB4ker 3 роки тому +10

      Smells like one too

    • @Taistelukalkkuna
      @Taistelukalkkuna 3 роки тому +14

      *Neigh*

    • @panzerkitsune
      @panzerkitsune 3 роки тому +14

      not too far off actually, the allied powers made such gasmasks for horses also, in similar design, and same for the opposing nations also. Horses played a major role in The Great War.

    • @TheWolfsnack
      @TheWolfsnack 3 роки тому +1

      It's a surrender incentive.....

  • @Vagabond671
    @Vagabond671 3 роки тому +571

    Ian saw Karl's kit and was like, "I see your cheeki breeki Soviet Stalker and raise you a baguette WW1 French Stalker."

    • @CssHDmonster
      @CssHDmonster 3 роки тому +14

      baguette french stalker doesnt survive long

    • @kentlindal5422
      @kentlindal5422 3 роки тому +17

      @@CssHDmonster shure he does. He just quits early.

    • @mathieushifera135
      @mathieushifera135 3 роки тому +17

      @@kentlindal5422 both wrong: he holds out for all of Verdun and wins the first war

    • @appalachianexploration5714
      @appalachianexploration5714 3 роки тому +2

      @@lukeperry1891 the french have still won more battles than any other nation in history.

    • @Nein1ron
      @Nein1ron 3 роки тому

      @@mathieushifera135 “Ils ne passeront pas!”

  • @Moredread25
    @Moredread25 3 роки тому +272

    Ian enters the zone to gather supplies.

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 3 роки тому +21

      Have you watched Karl's video on Inrange? He went max Russian.
      Entering the Zone, it's no Roadside picnic.

    • @pirig-gal
      @pirig-gal 3 роки тому +15

      He heard a rumour about a rare French rifle hidden somewhere in there.

    • @thegoldencaulk2742
      @thegoldencaulk2742 3 роки тому +16

      "Tovarisch, do you have any .32 French Longue?"

    • @nazarderkach9320
      @nazarderkach9320 3 роки тому +7

      Le Stalkeur.

    • @imagifyer
      @imagifyer 3 роки тому +3

      Ian enters the zone in search of more French Long ammo

  • @sumvs5992
    @sumvs5992 3 роки тому +72

    Range: due to coronavirus, we ask all competion shooters to wear masks while on our property, thank you.
    Ian: let's go back home and redo my kit

  • @COUNTVLAIDMIR
    @COUNTVLAIDMIR 3 роки тому +168

    Ian getting ready for WW1 part 2.

    • @aetherofthenorth9700
      @aetherofthenorth9700 3 роки тому +7

      Ian gonna need artillery and gas for part 3

    • @warhawk4494
      @warhawk4494 3 роки тому +12

      WW1 3.0

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 3 роки тому +14

      It's a pity that almost all media on post apocalyptic genre turns into 80's leather fetishist fantasy mixed with stone age instead of 1860's-1920's setting.

    • @bathshebahubber614
      @bathshebahubber614 3 роки тому +3

      @@TheArklyte incel synthwave retrofuturism vs. CHAD STEAMPUNK-DIESELPUNK SYNERGY

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 3 роки тому +1

      @@bathshebahubber614 more like alcoholpunk or woodgasgeneratorpunk tbh

  • @51WCDodge
    @51WCDodge 3 роки тому +73

    The Britsh P (Phenate) or PH (Phenate Hexamine) hoods were of a thicker material, over all. As blue grey colour.They were fitted with an exteranl Donald Duck flappy valve. Even when the Small Box Resperatior was introduced they were still carried for emergency use. When digging on the Western Front you often find a small circular tin about inch and half across by half inch deep with a screw top Marked Compound Anti Fogging, so knowen problem. :-)

  • @williamlloyd3769
    @williamlloyd3769 3 роки тому +73

    Try using a defogging solution available during WW1: cut off a piece of potato and rub on lens.

  • @animanera89
    @animanera89 3 роки тому +71

    "No worries, spooky phantom Ian isn't real and can't shoot you"
    Spooky phantom Ian:

    • @asherhockersmith8271
      @asherhockersmith8271 3 роки тому +9

      Spooky phantom Ian can certainly shoot _at_ you. Whether or not he hits you is up in the air.

  • @thelonerider9693
    @thelonerider9693 3 роки тому +62

    Star wars: "I can't see a thing in this helmet!"
    WWI soldier: "Lemme tell you about real poor visibility..."

  • @MichaelMichael-iz1jq
    @MichaelMichael-iz1jq 3 роки тому +112

    You know I think this is the best outfit featured on UA-cam

    • @hansmueller3029
      @hansmueller3029 3 роки тому +2

      It is really good. I've seen more interesting gun and ballistic content here than the slew of other creators have managed to crank out. And Ian always has something new.

    • @hansmueller3029
      @hansmueller3029 3 роки тому +3

      @@alexyo3927 I have a great collection of the NRA magazine 'Rifleman' from 1948 until 1970 and it was a seminal publication. It covered all aspects of firearms from ballistics and reloading to gunsmithng and firearm history. This channel is almost exactly like that magazine. My opinion is that you'd have to look pretty hard to learn as much from another channel.

    • @abisrizvi2621
      @abisrizvi2621 3 роки тому

      @@alexyo3927 lolololololol.... Couldn't agree more

  • @TheeCambion
    @TheeCambion 3 роки тому +140

    Guys Ian's role-playing the zodiac killer again.

  • @coolsenjoyer
    @coolsenjoyer 3 роки тому +33

    Even just watching that first stage, it felt like the longest 200 seconds ever, i can only imagine how it felt for Ian

  • @Masada1911
    @Masada1911 3 роки тому +69

    I just watched the revolver bit, I’m kind of surprised that you weren’t the worst one lol
    Good stuff Ian

    • @berryreading4809
      @berryreading4809 3 роки тому +6

      I think those targets were at like 25 yards, that's definitely no easy stage, especially with a texas star! 🙆‍♂️

    • @Masada1911
      @Masada1911 3 роки тому +4

      @@berryreading4809 oh absolutely. I wasn’t talking crap, I don’t think id have done better

    • @anna_arw6006
      @anna_arw6006 3 роки тому +6

      That's cause it was a four way tie with three other people being a dude with a zip-22, a HEMA competitor, and the range officer's pet rock.

  • @Fireclaws10
    @Fireclaws10 3 роки тому +101

    Also shame about the gas mask, but the rifle seemed like it was doing awesome

    • @cottonballs185
      @cottonballs185 3 роки тому

      Masks are gey and China is even geyer

    • @cottonballs185
      @cottonballs185 3 роки тому +2

      @Hannibal Barca The exception of Hong Kong and Taiwan goes without saying

  • @tisFrancesfault
    @tisFrancesfault 3 роки тому +52

    If condensation is an issue in Arizona; you'd be boned in France and Belgium.

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 3 роки тому +2

      Yes, or maybe not condensation.
      The glass would start off in the morning covered in dew which would slowly evaporate with the heat from the wearer's skin???

    • @893R6-w8t
      @893R6-w8t 3 роки тому

      It's a pretty cold range. It's right by a big wash, I was there the other day and it was 40 degrees at first shot.

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 3 роки тому

      @@893R6-w8t Most the snow is off the ground here.
      Might be back come Tuesday.

    • @sarrumac
      @sarrumac 3 роки тому

      Put oil on goggle easy fix

    • @karvast5726
      @karvast5726 3 роки тому

      I'm sure they had to use soap or spit and smear it on the lenses or it would be unusable or they just prayed for their lives and they couldn't see a thing

  • @stillwatercasey1204
    @stillwatercasey1204 3 роки тому +62

    I've really wanted to see a Lebel run in a match environment ever since Hunt: Showdown got me interested in that gun. I was not disappointed at all.

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 3 роки тому

      Irony is Ian is handicapping himself in multiple ways as well, using it left-handed and not single-loading once he expended the first magazine. Hopefully, he does it again with the lessons learned this time so he can really show off what a wizard of warfare this gun was in 1888 when it was the fusile par excellence.

  • @dannythehonestgamer6051
    @dannythehonestgamer6051 3 роки тому +30

    So with a fogged up gas mask even Ian while using a French pistol gets storm trooper aim.

  • @bearwincariaga4623
    @bearwincariaga4623 3 роки тому +165

    I wish they blew the whistle first to bring more immersion
    Edit: omg this is my first hundred likes thanks comrades

    • @PobortzaPl
      @PobortzaPl 3 роки тому +5

      Good Luck Everyone.

    • @Panzermeister36
      @Panzermeister36 3 роки тому +4

      "over the top, lads!"

    • @obviouspseudonym9345
      @obviouspseudonym9345 3 роки тому +1

      There's a nasty splinter on that ladder. Bloke could hurt himself...

    • @PobortzaPl
      @PobortzaPl 3 роки тому

      @@obviouspseudonym9345 Well thank you Baldrick for noticing that.

    • @obviouspseudonym9345
      @obviouspseudonym9345 3 роки тому

      @@PobortzaPl I have a cunning plan sir...

  • @milouin2571
    @milouin2571 3 роки тому +68

    I have my grandfather's gas mask dating from 1916. He was in the 2nd engineer regiment and started in the "Eparges" near Verdun

    • @aidenalkire9024
      @aidenalkire9024 3 роки тому +2

      That is really cool! Thank you for sharing that story!

    • @PaleoVirus
      @PaleoVirus 3 роки тому

      I have his canteen and a German bayonet. Thats my great grandfathers stuff

    • @ShogunMongol
      @ShogunMongol 3 роки тому

      Does it look like the one in this video, or does it have a hose and a filter? If it has a hose and a filter, and your granddad served in the US Army, he more than likely had a C.E. mask, or Corrected English mask, as it was based off of the British Small Box Respirator. Very good mask for the era, not the peak of technology for that era, but it worked well and were obviously built well, considering how many of those masks are still around today.

    • @milouin2571
      @milouin2571 3 роки тому +1

      @@ShogunMongol
      he is like the one presented. I specify that I am French.
      Sorry for my English!

    • @jh8146
      @jh8146 3 роки тому

      That is incredible! From what I have read Eparges was a particularly brutal battle. I suppose every battle is brutal if you are there. As a child I was given my Great Grandfather's WW1 Gas Mask. 103rd Infantry, 26th "Yankee" Division Maine National Guard. He was gassed at the Argonne and eventually died of pneumonia several years later in part from the damage done to his lungs. Sadly the mask deteriorated and got thrown away before I grew old enough to appreciate what I had.

  • @FlyingSnake110
    @FlyingSnake110 3 роки тому +57

    I'd be the guy who comes with ar-15 and red dot only to lose severely to Ian with WW1 gear and foggy gas mask...
    I'd probably still enjoy it!

  • @wrenchboostboi8994
    @wrenchboostboi8994 3 роки тому +26

    That would be so frustrating in a tense situation... you would just want to take it off but also wouldn’t want to risk being gassed by some horrible ww1 concoction

    • @ward1476
      @ward1476 9 місяців тому

      It was a major part of the gas warfare strategy. Days long gas attacks were not so much designed to kill but to tire out soldiers from having to wear those things 24/7 including sleeping in them.

  • @monke6776
    @monke6776 3 роки тому +49

    I read this as “terrible two gun lesbian”
    Quarantine got me down bad homies. Real bad

    • @lukum55
      @lukum55 3 роки тому +6

      Been exploring some other sites on the internet have we? Its ok, we don't judge, we've done so too.

    • @Dirtzoo
      @Dirtzoo 3 роки тому +2

      Terrible two gun lesbians works just fine

    • @weswolever7477
      @weswolever7477 3 роки тому +1

      Sounds like an early roger corman movie

  • @Nordern
    @Nordern 3 роки тому +60

    I appriciate you not throwing rounds down range when you can't see, it's something that grinds my gears when people say "ah fuck it" and fire

    • @magoshighlands4074
      @magoshighlands4074 3 роки тому +4

      Bald!

    • @asherhockersmith8271
      @asherhockersmith8271 3 роки тому +2

      Ooh I didn't know you watched forgotten weapons! You've got a whole new level of respect from me, on top of the crazy good wombletitling.

    • @Nordern
      @Nordern 3 роки тому +2

      @@asherhockersmith8271 I'm in the planning stage of making a few similar videos like Ian about my own guns, i've got an general interest in it
      nevermind the planning stage for this has been going on for probably a year already and not gotten anywhere....sometime!

    • @asherhockersmith8271
      @asherhockersmith8271 3 роки тому +1

      @@Nordern Nice! Always love your videos.

    • @vaclavjebavy5118
      @vaclavjebavy5118 3 роки тому

      @@Nordern woa

  • @CzechoslovakGunStories
    @CzechoslovakGunStories 3 роки тому +38

    the mask is just as scary as it is probably uncomfortable to shoot in.... :D

    • @CrudeConduct666
      @CrudeConduct666 3 роки тому

      Uhhh....I can't tell if you mean it looks really comfy or you're afraid of a gas mask O.o

    • @UKeXtremeMedia
      @UKeXtremeMedia 3 роки тому +1

      @@CrudeConduct666 It looks scary, but I'd also be scared to use it during a gas attack. Its basically a burlap sack with some eye holes in it.

  • @immaleaf4964
    @immaleaf4964 3 роки тому +17

    'hey! this would be a fun idea!'
    *later*
    'this was not a fun idea.'

  • @guypierson5754
    @guypierson5754 3 роки тому +38

    Ian seems happy to be in the same bracket as me. I've been consistantly "not last" at everything my whole life. You ain't gotta be the best, as long as you give it a good effort and have fun.

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 3 роки тому +11

      In a lot of stuff, complete is a lot of the way to compete.
      You finish a half Marathon or sprint triathlon. Being in the bottom 25% is still better than 85% of the population.

    • @terribleauthority
      @terribleauthority 3 роки тому +3

      I believe in you, Guy. Don't give up. One day you will be first.

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 3 роки тому

      I’m in the bottom 1/3 very often. But I’ve still managed some high score positions as well. Keep dry firing and enter as many as you can. When I hit 10 or more events per year I score much higher.

    • @MichaelDavis-mk4me
      @MichaelDavis-mk4me 3 роки тому

      @@letsburn00 That logic falls flat at University or at work. If you are in the bottom 25% in terms of best engineer, sure, you might be a better engineer than 99% of people, but you still suck as an engineer.

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 3 роки тому

      @@MichaelDavis-mk4me That is true for professions where there is a level of expertise and achievement. I actually am an Engineer professionally. However, for fitness, I feel like being in the top 15% of the general population is a perfectly adequate level which was my point. Its also best to not get discouraged when you enter into elite level events, which I think is a big risk.
      I have a life philosophy I call "1 skill point" which indicates it's best to have things I'm highly skilled in as a profession and major hobbies, but it's good to know the basics of many skills such as shooting, lockpicking (I was watching deviants videos long before we was on inrange) to how to sew my own pants, since to know the basics puts you at a huge advantage over the unaware. Though I don't have the time to make them a major focus. In a way it's like swimming, it's enormously better to be a capable swimmer vs not being able to swim at all.

  • @presidentlouis-napoleonbon8889
    @presidentlouis-napoleonbon8889 3 роки тому +20

    Joe Biden : Mandatory mask wearing!
    Ian : How 'bout gas masks?

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 3 роки тому +2

      I remember in the early days of the pandemic seriously thinking about a WWI or WWII gas mask if I couldn't find anything besides disposable masks.

    • @kendallodonnell7820
      @kendallodonnell7820 3 роки тому +1

      @@Hybris51129 I actually did that for a day - quite fun.

    • @MrMiddleWick
      @MrMiddleWick 3 роки тому +1

      Legally speaking it's a perfectly legal face covering

  • @michaelb6729
    @michaelb6729 3 роки тому +17

    The mask reminds me of the episode where Homer gets a bucket stuck on his head and they had to drill holes for his eyes. 😆

  • @andersbendsen5931
    @andersbendsen5931 3 роки тому +17

    "a little bit frustrating". .. I think my response to this kind of challenge would have been less charitable. 😉

  • @donjones4719
    @donjones4719 3 роки тому +18

    Not your favorite piece of headgear in your collection, I'm guessing.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 роки тому +21

    Where’s the bayonet round? As a French soldier, you’d be top 1!

  • @jakefromstatefarm1405
    @jakefromstatefarm1405 3 роки тому +9

    These videos will become "going to the range" for me in the future, as the price of ammo begins to eclipse the price of gold.

  • @SnoopReddogg
    @SnoopReddogg 3 роки тому +3

    The guys who came 27th, 26th and 25th.... " I don't get it, my Brown Bess and Zip22 were good to go!"

  • @SantaClaus-kk8zr
    @SantaClaus-kk8zr 3 роки тому +7

    To think he wasn't even the slowest here, were people using muskets and flintlocks?

    • @RedStripeMedia
      @RedStripeMedia 3 роки тому

      He is really familiar with 2 gun matches. Familiarity can be a big help with these, especially with weird requirements. They couldve OverTimed on more stages.

  •  3 роки тому +27

    Very interesting to see someone try this

  • @ominousmaximus
    @ominousmaximus 3 роки тому +6

    Good thing you didn't use the first idea they had for a gas mask which was a cloth mask that they would use urine on. Ewww. They found out pretty quick that those didn't do well. One other quick thing about WW1 was that many soldiers died from gas but not in the way you'd think. They would get the gas on their clothing and it would freeze onto their clothing and when they would go back to their bunkers and would warm up the gas would steam from their clothing killing all the soldiers in the bunker. WW1 in my opinion must have been the most miserable of any war ever fought. Great video by the way.

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 3 роки тому

      Similarly, some nurses are going home and stripping before they go inside.
      Then showering.

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 3 роки тому

      NB. Some of the nerve gases utilize that behaviour.

  • @Uncle_Roadkill
    @Uncle_Roadkill 3 роки тому +11

    That's why the military didn't use earplugs back then.

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 3 роки тому +6

      In wwl there had been PR in german newspapes from ,Oropax' ( Ohr is german for ear) company, showing Heavy Artillry gun crews.

    • @yosarianilivestech4018
      @yosarianilivestech4018 3 роки тому +1

      @@brittakriep2938 yes, main reason for not wearing ear plugs in battle is not being able to hear orders, but with artillery you may as well as you won't be able to hear anything anyways

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 3 роки тому +1

      @@yosarianilivestech4018 : The gunners must have been nearly deaf after war.

  • @abroxyz98
    @abroxyz98 3 роки тому +16

    Glad to see they are COVID compliant with their masks.

    • @futurememeudontgetyet1202
      @futurememeudontgetyet1202 3 роки тому +4

      Except that fucken timer guy without no reason.

    • @893R6-w8t
      @893R6-w8t 3 роки тому

      Who gives a shit? If you're so scared of covid, why are you running a 2 gun match? Stay the fuck at home with your little mask.

  • @BlankPicketSign
    @BlankPicketSign 3 роки тому +3

    Gas Mask Isolation is such a strange feeling! I totally get it!
    I wore a gasmask to a Con as apart of my cosplay... and that dissociation was not only unnerving but also difficult to shake off. It eventually "wore off" as time went by and I found ways to use body language to communicate with my friends and strangers... but it was rough!

  • @MatSpeedle
    @MatSpeedle 3 роки тому +9

    I love it when you do this sort of thing Ian :D

    • @hansmueller3029
      @hansmueller3029 3 роки тому +3

      It is pretty cool. The role play shooting is cool.

  • @theikomitdermaico
    @theikomitdermaico 3 роки тому +10

    A Point about the fogging up of the Gasmask. As I am aware there are anti Fog Sticks they used on the lenses so stop that problem. The germans on the Gasmask 17/18 used "Klarscheiben". A piece of gelatine that was placed insinde the lenses that should soak up the water so the lens would not fog up.

    • @gaw5024
      @gaw5024 3 роки тому +1

      Can I get those for my glasses :)

    • @theikomitdermaico
      @theikomitdermaico 3 роки тому

      @@gaw5024
      I think after 100 years they might be not that effective anymore.

  • @Danthehistoryman
    @Danthehistoryman 3 роки тому +14

    As a medic I had to qualify with my M9 wearing a M40 gas mask at night. It was pretty interesting.

  • @RIlianP
    @RIlianP 3 роки тому +9

    Ean forgot the number one thing about gas mask, old timely gas masks in particular, always apply thin layer of soap on the visor to prevent fogging. the same thing is applicable in modern times if you wear glasses and mask. Also the other seven competitors were shooting what? Matchlocks?

    • @misterthegeoff9767
      @misterthegeoff9767 3 роки тому

      as someone who wears glasses and used to commute to work by motorcycle during the before times sometimes it's just so cold and damp that none of the anti fog tricks work and you just have to open that visor and freeze your face. I imagine gas masks can also get to that point in some conditions (and that WW1 Flanders could reliably supply those conditions throughout the winter months).

    • @DAKOTA56777
      @DAKOTA56777 3 роки тому +1

      @@misterthegeoff9767 Have you tried a dedicated anti-fogging compound? I know they exist for gas masks and other glass lenses.

    • @misterthegeoff9767
      @misterthegeoff9767 3 роки тому

      @@DAKOTA56777 yes they make a huge difference but when you walk out of a nice centrally heated house into below zero temperatures on a winter morning there's a limit to what they can do.

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 3 роки тому

      A thin layer which, after a few months or less, degraded the skin it touched.

  • @LadyAnuB
    @LadyAnuB 3 роки тому +16

    You're just missing the WWI gas although I don't think you're really missing it. :)

  • @KJRUSS0
    @KJRUSS0 3 роки тому +5

    Makes me wonder how well Ian would perform in these matches if he didn't willfully handicap himself with this kind of gear. No to mention the fact he also physically handicapped by his crippling disability...his left handedness.

    • @dryroasted5599
      @dryroasted5599 3 роки тому

      Hey, don't dis us 10 percenters!

    • @KJRUSS0
      @KJRUSS0 3 роки тому

      @@dryroasted5599 I'm sorry, was I being ablist?

    • @Ossuis
      @Ossuis 3 роки тому

      I'm cross dominate (right handed and left dominate eye) and also fire bolt actions, you really get used to it eventually but its always funny when you get looks on the range.

  • @Flakfire
    @Flakfire 3 роки тому +3

    Ian you mad lad

  • @richardpearce2186
    @richardpearce2186 3 роки тому +17

    Without urinating on the mask to activate it, I feel the authenticity suffered!

    • @Zorglub1966
      @Zorglub1966 3 роки тому +2

      with lice and fleas it would be much more realistic.

    • @mqL49J
      @mqL49J 3 роки тому +3

      Who says he didn't?

    • @khmerbleu
      @khmerbleu 3 роки тому

      That was my first thought, too. Great minds, etc. and so on...

    • @timtheskeptic1147
      @timtheskeptic1147 3 роки тому

      I hate making repeat comments. Should have scrolled down...

  • @tterryshenanigans1820
    @tterryshenanigans1820 3 роки тому +13

    Anyone else playing a old video when they got the notification?

    • @evocarti
      @evocarti 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, the bowling alley scene from The Big Lebowski. Over the line!!

    • @nanashi1173
      @nanashi1173 3 роки тому

      @@evocarti What?

  • @manythingslefttobuild
    @manythingslefttobuild 3 роки тому +3

    0:05 the day the range safety officer calls in more range safety officers. Good for you coming not last on stage one, and I hope those 3 people had a lovely day at the range.

  • @analog_memoriesmedia
    @analog_memoriesmedia 3 роки тому +3

    I guess The game “Battlefield 1” wasn’t lying, when u put on the gas mask you cant aim but only hip fire.

  • @Erpyrikk
    @Erpyrikk 3 роки тому +9

    spit on the lenses works with diving goggles so that might be something to try.

    • @RafaAelM
      @RafaAelM 3 роки тому +1

      Or potato oil

    • @joaopedrosambatti2474
      @joaopedrosambatti2474 3 роки тому +2

      Fun fact, spit works really well on gopro lenses to make the effects of water droplets not noticeable

    • @johnkelinske1449
      @johnkelinske1449 3 роки тому

      That was the way I was taught in skin diving long ago. Spit in your mask and rub it around on the glass.

  • @therealcarlxii
    @therealcarlxii 3 роки тому +3

    At the Austrian Army we did some shooting drills with masks as well. I couldn´t really get a good sight picture through the scope on the AUG so I used the backup sights on top of the optic.That worked reasonably well.

  • @Doctor_Jekyll
    @Doctor_Jekyll 3 роки тому +1

    Ian highlights a very technical concern on the French gas mask. Since it fogs up so much while breathing in an arid environment (cold environments make that way worse) and the physical workload was high, French infantrymen had the choice of either breathing or aiming correctly. Considering that they were shelled with HE, gas or small arms fire, that is frankly terrifying and under-discussed in this topic.

  • @enricopaolocoronado2511
    @enricopaolocoronado2511 3 роки тому +6

    *Gun Jesus in the fields of Verdun, repelling invading German forces* _(circa 1916)_

  • @southernbear736
    @southernbear736 3 роки тому +4

    Hey Ian, Maybe as an idea if you have access to them try this with every ‘most popular’ WW1 gas mask/pistol combo and then tell us which is the best?

  • @bornamovafaghi6075
    @bornamovafaghi6075 3 роки тому +3

    Your shooting with the lebel was actually quite impressive

  • @kenibnanak5554
    @kenibnanak5554 3 роки тому +1

    You should now try the same course while wearing a German gas mask and with a German pistol, either Luger or a C96 (we will skip the Reichs Revolver for right now) and later with a German service rifle. My point is you may learn things were just as horrid (or not) for the opposing forces.

  • @atilliar
    @atilliar 3 роки тому +3

    Can you do a video about the mask?

    • @vertigo4236
      @vertigo4236 3 роки тому +1

      Would be super interesting, to see how the different typs of gasmask impair the shooting.

    • @pauljones9746
      @pauljones9746 3 роки тому

      THIS PLEASE

  • @EmperorHirohito-kv2uc
    @EmperorHirohito-kv2uc 3 роки тому +6

    HUZZAH TO IAN, HE POSTED A MEME ON INSTAGRAM, HOORRAY, GLORY TO GUN JESUS
    "I am the way and the light, except the light is occasionally muzzle flash" - our Lord and Saviour, Gun Jesus

  • @maniakaz
    @maniakaz 3 роки тому +1

    I'm glad I wasn't the only on who had a dumpster fire at that match. I had all kinds of issue with fogging glasses as I couldn't take my mask off since I was running suppressed and the RO had to stay close. On top of that I couldn't hit anything on that 125-ish yard stage and I didn't figure out I was skipping the rounds in with my AR9 until much later (they were just randomly hitting "around"

  • @thestrangegreenman
    @thestrangegreenman 3 роки тому +2

    This helps bring home a small aspect of the misery that a front line infantryman had to suffer through. Trying to fight and defend yourself with a fogged up mask must be terrifying. I appreciate their service more with each detail I learn of their lives.

  • @Revener666
    @Revener666 3 роки тому +23

    you could get anti-fog for glasses.

    • @domg6041
      @domg6041 3 роки тому +3

      Considering WWI batch anti-fog would probably be unstable by now. Ian would probably feel dirty using a stick of the new stuff on an old mask.

    • @donjones4719
      @donjones4719 3 роки тому +6

      Divers used to spit on the inside of their masks for anti-fog. (Still do?)
      I wonder if this would have worked for Ian.

    • @hansmueller3029
      @hansmueller3029 3 роки тому

      True but it would detract from the authenticity. I think. Wait..there was such a thing for French calvary and infantry?

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 3 роки тому

      I now want to research how much anti fog was developed at the time.

    • @randymagnum143
      @randymagnum143 3 роки тому

      A dryer sheet.

  • @a.k47-74
    @a.k47-74 3 роки тому +3

    The fact that he placed decently better than dead last while using that mask says a lot!

  • @trooperdgb9722
    @trooperdgb9722 3 роки тому +1

    Even the very modern gas masks (and filters) we had in the Gulf in 1991 were a pain to wear and definitely impacted peripheral vision etc. I suspect it simply isn't possible to make an effective gas mask that does NOT impact user vision/activity!

  • @peterfinland1370
    @peterfinland1370 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah, we all have our excuses for the bad score. "I was wearing bad gas mask, so it's all the gas mask's fault." Sure, just blame the gas mask. Please give Ian some sponsorship, so he won't have to compete with such an obsolete equipment.

  • @KylleinMacKellerann
    @KylleinMacKellerann 3 роки тому +2

    Puts a whole new slant on the old Valley-Girl term, "Bag your face".

  • @Lisztomaniac1022
    @Lisztomaniac1022 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Ian,
    Why in ww1 and ww2 on the Lee enfields did they not reload using another mag instead of cramming in rounds using clips each time to reload wouldn't it be faster and not as fiddly to detach the empty mag and put in another mag?

  • @Shadow_Hawk_Streaming
    @Shadow_Hawk_Streaming 3 роки тому +1

    If you do this kinda thing again, leave the mask inside your jacket in the car on the way there and don't take it out until you're ready to shoot, let it get up to body temperature and the fog won't be as bad for a while, same trick works for glasses

  • @pauljones9746
    @pauljones9746 3 роки тому +3

    Id like to see a good overview video of that gas mask

  • @theluftwaffle1
    @theluftwaffle1 3 роки тому +1

    So are we going to have a third episode with Block in a British style gas mask while trying to shoot a Webley revolver.

  • @dabiggs9519
    @dabiggs9519 3 роки тому +1

    There's dudes in like full combat kits trying to look all modern SF
    Then we got Ian here with his fugging f r e n c h g e a r .

  • @iflystuff1
    @iflystuff1 3 роки тому +1

    4:28 Well at least that's over and it can't get any worse.................................Oh

  • @benschwader4537
    @benschwader4537 3 роки тому +1

    I didn't think you were monetized on UA-cam, what's with the ads?

  • @allanbeck4634
    @allanbeck4634 3 роки тому +1

    Well at least they didn't make you urinate on the gas mask before putting it on.

  • @RoseUnseen
    @RoseUnseen 3 роки тому +1

    1:10 you dont have to see the 1000 men running across the field just shot in the direction

  • @letsburn00
    @letsburn00 3 роки тому +1

    It's kind of mind blowing to think about how far gas mask tech has come.
    I used to have to wear a full filtered half face mask 8-10 hrs a day in 40+C (>110F) at work. I can't imagine fighting WW1 in the middle East with this kind of kit, worried about a gas shell.

  • @raseli4066
    @raseli4066 3 роки тому +2

    It was almost wholesome at the end When everyone said aww

  • @Horizontalvertigo
    @Horizontalvertigo 3 роки тому +1

    What? Ian used a six o'clock hold? Say it isn't so!

  • @Pr3basauras
    @Pr3basauras 3 роки тому +1

    Really enjoy this kinda stuff. In many ways the gear is more important then the gun. If you can't carry the gun comfortably and even see down the sights effectively what's the point

  • @db-qj3ge
    @db-qj3ge 3 роки тому +1

    I never understand why some refs/instructors wear camo. Should be wearing neon colors, cause they should want to be seen both for gesture commands and safety.

    • @DiggingForFacts
      @DiggingForFacts 3 роки тому +1

      A number of them probably also want to shoot the match themselves, so they show up in the gear they want to shoot the match in.

  • @keithallardice6139
    @keithallardice6139 3 роки тому +1

    Oh dear ... he suffered for us!! Yea verily .... :-(

  • @Overonator
    @Overonator 3 роки тому +1

    That gas mask looks kind of plague doctor to me.

  • @TheAlex11880
    @TheAlex11880 3 роки тому +2

    Pretty surprising you even placed that high with your choices. Are you the only one who runs such rifles, or are there some people equally enthusiastic about those?

    • @jcorbett9620
      @jcorbett9620 3 роки тому +1

      Karl, I think, is almost as masochistic as Ian, but they do seem to be the only ones who handicap themselves in such a fashion, just for the fun of it. The fact that they beat others not at such a disadvantage is amusing as heck :-)

  • @DGworksIvan
    @DGworksIvan 3 роки тому

    apply soap or dish washer on lens, then dry wipe it lightly until clear, solves a lot of fog up problems even in south east asia's summer

  • @terry4530
    @terry4530 3 роки тому +1

    just a tip from diving, try spitting on the glas, rubbing it around and then wiping it off with a wet rag, thats supposed to stop it from fogging up, or if you dont fancy spitting on something you want to wear, you can buy specializes fluid from diving shops

  • @Siarawaszympanemjest
    @Siarawaszympanemjest 3 роки тому +2

    And that's on a clear sunny day. Imagine trying to do anything in this mask while surrounded by thick clouds of chlorine, with the damn thing barely keeping it out, knee-deep in mud, under non-stop machinegun fire and being shelled to hell.

  • @ukp42
    @ukp42 3 роки тому +6

    "Are you my mummy?"

  • @Odin79_LTD
    @Odin79_LTD 3 роки тому +1

    I love the narrated videos, reminds me of "Adventures with Bill"

  • @zehnerdygamer3329
    @zehnerdygamer3329 4 місяці тому

    Having just shot a Lebel in a 600 yard CMP match rifle competition (where most of the other people used scoped ARs), I can confirm to you the Lebel is less than ideal in competition shooting (I didn't even hit the board for 3 of the 4 stages!)

  • @guillaumeb5511
    @guillaumeb5511 3 роки тому +1

    Wears WWI French helmet, WWI French gas mask and uses French WWI guns... Wears wrong flower. Ian, poppies are british, we wear cornflowers in memory of the Poilus.

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, but I didn't have one in time.

    • @guillaumeb5511
      @guillaumeb5511 3 роки тому

      @@ForgottenWeapons Well, considering our logistics during WWI, that sort of checks out.

  • @User_Un_Friendly
    @User_Un_Friendly 3 роки тому +11

    Is it just me or does that mask make one look like a pelican?😛

  • @tvnshack
    @tvnshack 3 роки тому

    One time, I was an extra for a TV documentary. We had to rush out of a trench and run, in full WWI dress and gears, with the Rosalie bayonet at the end of my Lebel ... and with that gaz mask (an original one). After five paces, my mask started sliding down. I couldn't see a thing and I fell. I was scared to stick my pointy Rosalie into some other guys ... I kept my Lebel straight up for the rest of the scene up until the director yeld CUT. How crazy that would have been, 100 years ago ! Poor men !

  • @bfox630
    @bfox630 3 роки тому +1

    How's the timing on the revolver cylinder? I found one of these 1892 Revolvers hiding in the back of a local gun shop and the timing seems to be less than perfect on it. Also I'm impressed with how quickly you were able to reload that thing on the clock.
    Also loved the chorus of "awws" at the end of the last stage when you parred out haha 8:29

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 3 роки тому +1

    At least the mask looks easier to breathe in than Karl's Soviet-era mask--even if he wasn't actually breathing through the tube, but cut a discrete breathing hole under it.

  • @NuffMan_
    @NuffMan_ 3 роки тому

    I bet they did rub potato peels to the lenses to keep the fogging away