@@sinisterthoughts2896 My Hi-Point .380 has never malfunctioned on me, and it hits where I aim. It's not something I would have gone out and spent money on (it was thrown in along with a few other guns I got in trade for some handyman work), but I'm pretty comfortable keeping it stashed as a back-up HD gun.
@@SynchronizorVideos And if for some reason it ever does fail, you can always club someone to death with it? TBF i've got the .40 Hi point, and it's always worked, despite me never cleaning it.
Nah, Elbonia buys stuff that works out of the box, but drains their budget and screws their supply chain. If they started getting gear that's outright non-functional, they might start suspecting that something's up in procurement...
Where's the "I've fired 200,000 rounds through my Taurus Curve and it has never malfunctioned" guy? I didn't see him in the comments, but I know he's out there.
Well I have Taurus 111 that I've ran over a thousand rounds through it without any maintenance not one issue ever BUT it's not a curve that gun sucks 🤣
I've put about 1500 rounds through mine and it's never misfed. I must have gotten one made on a Wednesday. All jokes aside, it's really been a great edc pocket gun.
I need to say that I find amusing that Ian participates in actual gun matches for testing guns and actially not taking himself 100% seriously. Love that guy
StageDiveBomb number 0 I think it’s a great compromise. Gets to have fun with the gang while still enjoying the event in his own (occasionally masochistic) way
Ok that was fun and all Ian but, what about those four people who managed to do worse than you? were they using exclusively smooth bore or did four storm troopers enter?
PsychoLucario If this was the match Karl was running that double barrel monstrosity it has shades of the top gear cheap car challenges except with meme guns.
Aragorn: "That's a lot of targets" Ian: "Yeet me" Aragorn: "What?" Ian "I cannot hit the targets, you'll have to Yeet me! ...just don't tell the internet."
Hi-Point gets unfairly maligned imo. They're not fancy guns but they're not meant to be. They're reliable enough for what they are. They are a good choice for the market segment they're for. Plus Made in the USA.
They're functional and get the job done. Maybe not super fancy, trigger's not excellent, is bulky or sights aren't best, but it gets the job done for being a cheap firearm.
I don't know if the situation has changed at any point in the last 30 years, but back when I was in high school, I came to the conclusion that once you've bought _a_ gun magazine--as in, one issue of any one gun magazine--you have read _all_ gun magazines. Never before in the history of human conflict have so many recycled so little by so few so many times.
@@ZGryphon I used to enjoy Guns & Ammo when Garry James had a regular article on historical firearms in addition to his column on identifying weapons for people who send in pictures, but as he headed toward retirement, that feature disappeared, and the magazine become exclusively a shill for whatever $3,000 gizmo was most recently for sale.
This is also a fresh out the box, not oiled, sub 200 not broken in gun. I suspect that like most cheap guns it will feed and function better as the parts polish themselves. The zip 22 seems to be bad no matter how much you work with it.
@@vidard9863 Which makes the pertinent question "With that failure rate, how long will it take to get 200 rounds through one of those things?" There should be a trophy for the first person to manage it.
@@UTubeHandlesSuck honestly, Paul Harrell had a good video about dealing with cheap guns, I think that it was his highpoint video. You don't even bother shooting. You just work the action by hand. It's not that bad really. Just put it by your TV, and work it any time you sit down to watch the TV. After that the only parts that need breaking in are the feed ramp chamber and extractor, but it should now be more reliable for your two hundred rounds, the feed ramp is also often fairly easy to polish enough by hand.
@Graham And He found in the Taurus HQ those who sold inferior weapons made of dubious craftsmanship. Then He had made a whip of cords, He drove them all out and overturned the tables. And He said to those who sold inferior firearms, “Take these things away! Do not make this a house of ill reputation!” -Gun Jesus
"Don't worry Taurus, I sure someone will come and take you home one day..." *Ian at a gun show looking for weird stupid shit to make a video on* Taurus: My time has come... Ian: *during the match* *tosses Taurus in trash* Taurus: Yay! I'm home!
Then he said to them "He who hath a Surefire let him pocket it and likewise a Spiderco; and he who hath no pistol let him sell his watch and buy one. One of their number questioned him saying "Lord, for my watch the merchant will give me only a little silver, for it is a Timex and considered very common. Should I buy this Taurus Curve to be the pistol thou hast commanded me to purchase? Gun Jesus spake unto him saying "The Taurus Curve is an abomination unto my Father. If thou hast only a little silver purchase instead a Hi-Point pistol for while both pistols looketh as ugly as the deeds of sinful men, the Hi-Point will not betrayeth thine will with malfunctions and thou will be less plagued with errant shots for the Hi-Point has sights as my Father has commanded."
I would say the channel is already kinda that. It's not at all uncommon for a weapon to be on this channel as a forgotten weapon, BECAUSE it deserved to be forgotten.
"the first time I drew it from the included holster the holster broke" Well that just sounds like fine quality Taurus Engineering right there. EDIT: "and it jammed on the first round" Oh dear god.
My first Taurus was a .44 Special revolver about 30 years ago... never failed, but a huge gun. I currently carry a 5-shot Taurus .357/.38special as my MAIN carry with a 9mm FM Hi-Power (FM... Argentina) or a brace of Tokarevs in 7.62x25... I literally stopped a rape in progress with my Taurus (won't go into details other than the revolver functioned flawlessly)... maybe Taurus needs to stick to wheel-guns and not try to play in the polymer semi-auto field.
@@johnathansaegal3156 Modern Taurus autoloaders work just fine. Dumb ponytail and silly hat guy was using a bad breath gun for other than it's intended purpose.
@@craigfelter Even so, the gun had several malfunctions. And as he said, the holster broke the first time he tried using it. So, quality Taurus enginnering there, so good it breaks and malfunctions right out of the factory.
@@neitherman9997 I remember its called that after they put out polls for the name and that name wins. I remember also they tried to back out on actually naming that until H&K goaded them into it.
Stephen Williams the customer service point is a good one. There are a number of people with Taurus pistols that have had very good experiences. There are also a number, my impression is perhaps more than some other brands percentage wise, that haven’t had as good of a time. I have yet to hear from someone that sent a pistol in to Taurus that didn’t have a hell of a time in getting a response and then in getting the pistol back in a reasonable timeframe. Most of what I read is 6 months + turnaround, which sucks. I think HiPoint accepts what they are, a low cost firearm made of cheaper materials. That’s fine and they back up their product when there is a problem. My gripe with Taurus is they make pistols that feel and look like they compete with more expensive pistols, but they don’t seem to back them up like the manufacturers of those more expensive pistols.
Suggestion: “Make me suffer” series where subscribers suggest atrocious guns to fire in competition scenarios...could include notable guests who are not so handicapped.
I love how hi-points are unironically good guns, especially for the price, but everyone hates them because of the meme that they are bad because they're cheap.
@@MatthewsGauss they were (well the pistols) were originally bad. sub 2009 the pistols had bad slides and the feed ramps were not very good. the mags were actual garbage. but they steadily improved and by 2013 they had a decent gun with better but still bad mags. they kept improving the quality from then on and it's the best sub $300 gun you could probably get. their carbines were kind of always good even though it's basically the same exact operating system as the pistol.
Yeah, Ian ratted on it quite a bit, but he seemed to hit most of his shots when the gun actually worked, so it's probably the least shit part of the gun.
I think it's the same idea as an occluded eye optic or the Bindon aiming concept. With both eyes open, the crosshairs super impose onto the vision of the eye that's not blocked by the gun. It was the red dot before the red dot was a thing.
To be fair, he took it right from the box, with no familiarity. If it were properly oiled, and perhaps try a variety of ammo to find what it shoots best, could improve its performance. It’s still a piece of junk, but may have faired better with some effort. And I don’t get the weak laser sights, why bother? People think lasers are somehow foolproof, but I’ve got one on my pistol that is bright enough to see at 30+ yards, and no one shoots well with it without a lot of practice. Lasers take some getting used to, some good 3 dot sights are hard to beat.
Took my mom gun shopping for her birthday around the time the curve was introduced. Gun store guy had her convinced that was the gun she needed... I bought her a glock 19. I regret nothing 👍😂
It's actually a terribly clever means to give the other guy the idea that he had the upper hand, only to pull out his actual piece. To be fair, while clever, it wasn't entirely original; Ian largely came up with the idea late one evening, around 7:00 AM, as his new bottle of rather smooth scotch was curiously empty, while watching the sword fight scene from The Princess Bride ( this scene, in fact : ua-cam.com/video/lC6dgtBU6Gs/v-deo.html ). Fortunately he sobered up just enough to ask someone to "Yeet him" prior to attempting this feat in the third round of competition a few hours later that day. He was obviously only sober enough to shoot competitively, without any actual sights, and was forced to take an Uber home since he was obviously in no shape to drive. On a side note, it was mostly agreed that this wasn't Ian's fault and most reasonable people still blame Karl for encouraging bad behavior by providing said "Yeeting" and not having done his part to drink the other half of the scotch. Karl will be required to use solely French firearms in matches for the foreseeable future.
Thanks, Ian. You just gave us the definitive review of the Taurus Curve, demonstrating and confirming that Kel-Tec is not the only company producing paperweights that somewhat resemble pistols.
My dad has one, and it only malfunctions if you run steel case ammo through it (as expected), so don't make judgements about the reliability from this sample size of 1. But a surprisingly helpful thing to do is to use the Loaded Chamber Indicator as an impromptu iron sight. Makes hitting things easier beyong point-shooting range. But if you want something that isn't extremely niche and is actually versatile, a Yeet Cannon is a definitely better choice in every way (except concealability).
I would love to see if these problems were common across say 10 of both models of gun but that would be giving money to Taurus and STD Manu and I don't think they should be rewarded for this.
That was the Yeet Cannon G1, which was simply the then current HiPoint 9mm with limited edition marking. The Yeet Cannon YC9 is still not shipping. HiPoint made the mistake of letting 'the internet' name their new 9mm. H&K shamed them into actually using the name the people voted on.
When we were about 17 yrs old (2013) me and a friend in Brazil made a plastic/cardboard custom pistol (it's a toy, doesn't fire anything) that looks exactly like the Curve and posted it to Facebook, but before the Curve was announced. It's probably coincidence, but still bizarre.
How old is yours? Apparently some older magazines didn't work worth crap, but the newer ones are better. Don't quote me on it, though, just a rumor has it according to some vague source on the internet I don't remember where sort of thing. Either way, JHP owner, myself.
I've had 2 hi points since 2013. First one had mag issues, so we sent the gun back cuz the warranty. Second one has ran nearly flawless ever since. Love my hi point c9
'Y' - A wide envelope onset sound implying swift acceleration. 'ee' - An extended, high-frequency sound implying fast travel at a consistent rate. 't' - a sudden, percussive offset implying... a sudden, percussive stop. Swift acceleration, to extended, consistent travel, to sudden stop. It's an object being thrown.
I knew I was in for a treat the moment Ian matter-of-factly described the manner in which the magnet for the light/laser broke the first time he drew the gun.
Thanks for the video Ian. Awesome as always. I am the owner of a Taurus Curve. I got it stupid cheap and I thought it was an interesting and strange design. With a little work it can be made into a reliable shooter. Some work on the feed ramp and slide drastically reduced the number of malfunctions and added to the overall smoothness. It is now a decent little repeating belly gun.
At the time I bought my first pocket pistol with a gift card a friend gave me for my birthday, the choices came down to a Taurus Curve or a Ruger LCP II. I am SO glad I went with the LCP II now!
All three of my wranglers (2 yj and a tj) were bulletproof with the 4.0l. But the wk grand cherokee, has been pretty problematic. Seems like every year I'm chasing a ghost evap leak lol
I understand the purpose of testing it this way, but geez imagine the amount of metal shavings and gunpowder-laden grease that thing has in it right out of the box, being a Taurus. I imagine it would be at least somewhat useful after a decent cleaning. That's typically why South American guns come with an instruction manual that says "Step 1: Scrub the hell out of it and oil every moving surface"
I agree. I would like to have seen how the gun performed cleaned and oiled. I understand the attempt at replicating an apathetic owner, but now you have two variables in your experiment, so we don’t know if the malfunctions are due to the gun or due to the failure to properly clean and lube the gun. I actually thought about getting one of these when they came out to use as back-up - slip it in a boot or put it in an overcoat pocket while my main gun is on my waist with my coat buttoned over it.
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@@vksjd I mean its a cool idea. I've seen other videos of the Curve, it seemed to work just fine.
Ooooooh so *this* is the gun that Zach mentioned that has the rear sight painted on the butt end of the gun.... ...and ofc it's a Taurus. **Angry garbage bin noise**
In my experience with my Taurus Spectrum, it's very temperamental with the type of ammunition it likes and doesn't. Also, after breaking in the mag spring, the malfunctions became fewer if not non-existant.
These were made a long time ago and the laser on them is very tiny... It was designed to fit on smaller women, the curve design was supposed to be due to straight firearms not being great for a women to carry etc....
At least Taurus is consistent, 40 years ago the guy next to me in a police course was firing a Taurus revolver. I finished the course by switching to my left eye because of the blood in my right eye. I had a piece of Taurus in my forehead. (It was training...you don't stop for minor problems!)
@@bradleybarnhart4188 The only time I've ever seen part of a gun fly straight at a shooter's face were with a Colt 1911 and a Marlin 1894. 99% of the time that kind of breakage is user error (barely attached aftermarket parts, repairs with cyanoacrylate...). Also, I call bullshit on your story, tough guy :)
Actually their whole Millennium line is quite good. Their most recent, the G3 and G3C have received nothing but praise from the gun reviewers I've been able to find.
Hi-Point had a contest to name their new pistol, and YC9 (Yeet Cannon 9) won by miles. Until that's actually released they've stamped Yeet Cannon G1 (Generation 1) on the side of some of their current pistols because Hi-Point knows their target market better than any other gun company
@@lordhellfire153 no, they tried refusing to call it the yeet cannon. Highpoints customers just know how to be loud enough to be heard.... To the original poster yeet is a slang term for basically disposing of something at speed. So he yeeted the curve into the trash, then got the yeet cannon to yeet some 9mm down range and yeet some targets.
@@vidard9863 nope, they pretended to refuse the (fill in a blank box) polls actually had "ps9" as in "problem solver" being the winning one but they nixed that right quick and only gave a curated poll to vote on the next time
Taurus Curve: Or how I stopped worrying about score and learned to love to clear malfunctions.
The curve will not protect our precious bodily fluids.
Shoot! With the gun! That's what the bullets are for, you twit!
Geez, I wish WE had one of them "Yeet Cannons".
Sound like a Dr Strange love thing lol
@@mrlucky5025 Mr. President, we cannot allow a High-Point gap!
When your weapon is so bad you hope someone has a spare hi-point available.
Hey at least it's a functional weapon
@@sinisterthoughts2896 My Hi-Point .380 has never malfunctioned on me, and it hits where I aim. It's not something I would have gone out and spent money on (it was thrown in along with a few other guns I got in trade for some handyman work), but I'm pretty comfortable keeping it stashed as a back-up HD gun.
Sinister Thoughts The same goes for literally every weapon that has ever existed lmao.
hi-point is awesome! (if you live in Brazil)
@@SynchronizorVideos And if for some reason it ever does fail, you can always club someone to death with it? TBF i've got the .40 Hi point, and it's always worked, despite me never cleaning it.
Elbonia has found its officer side arm
*Happy Elbonian Weapon Procurement Noises*
Nah, Elbonia buys stuff that works out of the box, but drains their budget and screws their supply chain. If they started getting gear that's outright non-functional, they might start suspecting that something's up in procurement...
@@jic1 That's why this is Elbonian quality. It works and doesn't work. Confuse them with mysterious firing capability.
@@LadyAnuB Just enough malfunctions to blame the shooter when they claim the gun isn't working.
That's just a cover story. The Taurus Curve was actually procured to be issued to plain clothes agents of the Elbonian Ministry of Internal Security.
Range officer: shooter ready?
Gun jesus: yee haw
Range officer: you have negative 4 points
" your score was 14"
Not bad
"Negative"
Yikes
Where's the "I've fired 200,000 rounds through my Taurus Curve and it has never malfunctioned" guy? I didn't see him in the comments, but I know he's out there.
Nice pfp
Well I have Taurus 111 that I've ran over a thousand rounds through it without any maintenance not one issue ever BUT it's not a curve that gun sucks 🤣
I've put about 1500 rounds through mine and it's never misfed. I must have gotten one made on a Wednesday. All jokes aside, it's really been a great edc pocket gun.
My glock 42 jams every time I shoot it with Winchester white box
Is dozens of rounds good enough?
The level of engineering failure contained in such a small package is almost awe inspiring.
I take it you haven't seen the .22 zip gun 🤣
@@At0mic890
"How does one make the ZIP. 22 look good?🤔"
Taurus "Hold my beer...."
You've just described most of Taurus products.
at least it has an integrated laser for blinding
Taurus should have called it the marriage gun...
it will ALWAYS fall apart 😂
“How many gimmicks should we put in the pistol?”
“All of them, all the gimmicks.”
"You did put sights on it, though, right?"
"...sightS? As in, more than one?"
moosemaimer
Dude, it had laser sights, what more did it need? 🤣
In theory the concept makes sense. It just is manufactured so poorly.
"How many gimmicks does this gun need?"
"Yes"
Shaw we put our patented unsafe safeties on it?
Yup.
I thought when Ian said "Yeet me" Karl was going to pick him up and throw him down range. Im awake too early.
I'm still awake working an overnight. Trust me you werent alone.
Yeet‘nt 😪
*coffee*
I, an intellectual, thought it was a throwing gun
Same here pal
Using terrible weapons in a match is what compels me to watch these.
I need to say that I find amusing that Ian participates in actual gun matches for testing guns and actially not taking himself 100% seriously. Love that guy
StageDiveBomb number 0 I think it’s a great compromise. Gets to have fun with the gang while still enjoying the event in his own (occasionally masochistic) way
People taking themselves too seriously is a huge turn off
Ok that was fun and all Ian but, what about those four people who managed to do worse than you? were they using exclusively smooth bore or did four storm troopers enter?
one was Karl with...just go watch his exhaustive video, the other three...they must have been bad at shooting
four stormtroopers armed with zip .22s
$10,000 custom raceguns.
PsychoLucario If this was the match Karl was running that double barrel monstrosity it has shades of the top gear cheap car challenges except with meme guns.
They were also using Taurus Curves
There’s nothing quite like hearing Ian say “Yeet me”
@@HerrCobra_762 why?
@@GonkaGonkaGonka because he'd rather have the taurus curve than a Hi-Point.
Aragorn: "That's a lot of targets"
Ian: "Yeet me"
Aragorn: "What?"
Ian "I cannot hit the targets, you'll have to Yeet me! ...just don't tell the internet."
I died laughing at that
@@HerrCobra_762 ah yes but that isn't it's nickname
The one feature they should have put on this gun: a forward assist
I wouldn’t put it past them with all the gimmicks they put on it. That would at least be useful
Well you made me laugh iout loud kind sir. Thank you xD and I agree
Or a slingshot to send your jammed rounds downrange.
Holy shit, I didn't even think about that
You know that a gun is bad when a Yeet Cannon is a marked improvement
Heresy the yeet cannon is better than all guns!!
Hi-Point gets unfairly maligned imo. They're not fancy guns but they're not meant to be. They're reliable enough for what they are. They are a good choice for the market segment they're for. Plus Made in the USA.
@@SavageGreywolf.....so what you are saying is it's JUST AS GOOD!! Naw just messing with you, they are pretty decent guns, they seem to be like
They're functional and get the job done. Maybe not super fancy, trigger's not excellent, is bulky or sights aren't best, but it gets the job done for being a cheap firearm.
I just googled yeet cannon and am now laughing in tears😂
Could be worse: Imagine going into a match with a ZiP.
You mean how many of your own fingers do you want to pick up out of the dirt?
At least the Zip 22 has sights!
@@Valkyrie1166 you can use it as a single shot ( at hit a damn thing)
@@Bierstadt54 10
10 fingers
@@Valkyrie1166 and they work too, those pistols are pretty damn accurate
The S333 Vollyfire still did worse at the backup gun match.
S'truth!
Funny if this was at the same match.
I think they both did pretty bad tbh.
Was gonna say, could be worse, could be the Thunderstruck Volleyfire,. where the one thing you won't hit is the target you are shooting at.
I just posted the same thing.
I saw this hyped in gun magazines and came to two conclusions:
1. Don't buy what gun magazines recommend.
2. Don't buy gun magazines.
I don't know if the situation has changed at any point in the last 30 years, but back when I was in high school, I came to the conclusion that once you've bought _a_ gun magazine--as in, one issue of any one gun magazine--you have read _all_ gun magazines. Never before in the history of human conflict have so many recycled so little by so few so many times.
@@ZGryphon I used to enjoy Guns & Ammo when Garry James had a regular article on historical firearms in addition to his column on identifying weapons for people who send in pictures, but as he headed toward retirement, that feature disappeared, and the magazine become exclusively a shill for whatever $3,000 gizmo was most recently for sale.
Yep, don't buy gun magazines , buy a revolver.
I just avoid it all and don't buy guns \o/
Last time I bought a gun magazine (the glossy paper kind), Elmer Keith was still writing a column in it. Yes, I'm that old.
Taurus Curve - When a ZiP .22 isn't shitty enough.
To be fair, this gun does work more often than the ZiP .22.
@@tighlia3375 How to get rounds on target , take carful aim. Throw gun at target,
This is also a fresh out the box, not oiled, sub 200 not broken in gun. I suspect that like most cheap guns it will feed and function better as the parts polish themselves. The zip 22 seems to be bad no matter how much you work with it.
@@vidard9863 Which makes the pertinent question "With that failure rate, how long will it take to get 200 rounds through one of those things?" There should be a trophy for the first person to manage it.
@@UTubeHandlesSuck honestly, Paul Harrell had a good video about dealing with cheap guns, I think that it was his highpoint video. You don't even bother shooting. You just work the action by hand. It's not that bad really. Just put it by your TV, and work it any time you sit down to watch the TV. After that the only parts that need breaking in are the feed ramp chamber and extractor, but it should now be more reliable for your two hundred rounds, the feed ramp is also often fairly easy to polish enough by hand.
And thus Gun Jesus declared “Yeet me.” and there was hi-point, and it was good. Amen.
It wasn't that good. It was less bad.
@@TheSuburban15 "And it was... adequate. Amen."
Amen
Yeet
Let there be zero malfunctions to you my brother's amen
"Yeet me."
-Ian McCollum, 2020
Ian rocking the "Frontier saloon poker player about to shoot dead a cheater" look
More like Indiana Jones. I like it.
Just in Elbonia has ordered 2 million Tauris Curves for its security forces.
Thank god it's Tauris Curves and not Taurus Curvea
@@sinisterthoughts2896 Whoooosh!
@@sinisterthoughts2896 Taurii :)
You mean it's intelligence service.
@@GunFunZS That just makes it funnier.
"So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chose the Taurus Curve."
-Gun Jesus
@Graham And He found in the Taurus HQ those who sold inferior weapons made of dubious craftsmanship. Then He had made a whip of cords, He drove them all out and overturned the tables. And He said to those who sold inferior firearms, “Take these things away! Do not make this a house of ill reputation!”
-Gun Jesus
"Yeet me" has to go down as the best insult ever offered to the current firearm.
"Don't worry Taurus, I sure someone will come and take you home one day..."
*Ian at a gun show looking for weird stupid shit to make a video on*
Taurus: My time has come...
Ian: *during the match* *tosses Taurus in trash*
Taurus: Yay! I'm home!
Considering that Ian ran a BUG match with a COP 357, "worst ever" says quite a lot about the Taurus Curve.
Gun Jesus accepted all this suffering for our sins!
Ага, особенно за большие временные интервалы между роликами :^)
нихуя, краб
2:01 he even had a cross.
LOL hilarious
Then he said to them "He who hath a Surefire let him pocket it and likewise a Spiderco; and he who hath no pistol let him sell his watch and buy one. One of their number questioned him saying "Lord, for my watch the merchant will give me only a little silver, for it is a Timex and considered very common. Should I buy this Taurus Curve to be the pistol thou hast commanded me to purchase? Gun Jesus spake unto him saying "The Taurus Curve is an abomination unto my Father. If thou hast only a little silver purchase instead a Hi-Point pistol for while both pistols looketh as ugly as the deeds of sinful men, the Hi-Point will not betrayeth thine will with malfunctions and thou will be less plagued with errant shots for the Hi-Point has sights as my Father has commanded."
so , a new channel needed for this *thing*, "weapons that deserve to be forgotten"
"Should-be-forgotten weapons"
No need for a new channel, can just have a soon to be forgotten segment
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
I would say the channel is already kinda that. It's not at all uncommon for a weapon to be on this channel as a forgotten weapon, BECAUSE it deserved to be forgotten.
"the first time I drew it from the included holster the holster broke" Well that just sounds like fine quality Taurus Engineering right there.
EDIT: "and it jammed on the first round" Oh dear god.
then gets shredded at the end by a Hi-point yeet cannon.
@@thatguybrody4819 The ultimate humiliation.
My first Taurus was a .44 Special revolver about 30 years ago... never failed, but a huge gun. I currently carry a 5-shot Taurus .357/.38special as my MAIN carry with a 9mm FM Hi-Power (FM... Argentina) or a brace of Tokarevs in 7.62x25... I literally stopped a rape in progress with my Taurus (won't go into details other than the revolver functioned flawlessly)... maybe Taurus needs to stick to wheel-guns and not try to play in the polymer semi-auto field.
@@johnathansaegal3156 Modern Taurus autoloaders work just fine. Dumb ponytail and silly hat guy was using a bad breath gun for other than it's intended purpose.
@@craigfelter Even so, the gun had several malfunctions. And as he said, the holster broke the first time he tried using it. So, quality Taurus enginnering there, so good it breaks and malfunctions right out of the factory.
6:05 The Taurus slap. It's like the HK slap except you have to do it after every round fired.
Finally! A real bolt action pistol!
Shooter ready? Ready!
Gun ready? Kinda...maybe
"Shooter, do you understand the course of fire?" "I do!" "Do you understand why you have chosen this gun?" "I do not!"
I have a friend who calls those types of guns "Pool Table" guns. Because they are only good for the distance of a pool table.
And with this gun, you better hope the first shot incapacitated your target
Or popping it under a leg to help level it.
@@mattfleming86 good luck with that. It's literally a curved gun
I'd rather have a (decent) knife than this (I'd use it to prop-up some furniture or something :D )
Better off with a.38 snubbie!
Range command for this pistol should be "Load, and Clear Jam".
Ha ha ha PERFECT
Best comment yet!!!!
“I just ... no... Yeet me.” Words I never expected 😂😂😂
OK, lesson learned: Don't buy the Taurus Curve, buy a Hi-Point Yeet Cannon instead.
A back up gun match with a welrod (presumably with already shot out baffels) could be pretty fun
bolt action pistol except its bolt action on purpose lol
I laughed out loud at "Yeet me". Hi Point for the win. LOL
@@Sableagle It's ... actually called a Yeet Cannon, and it's sold under that name by Hi Point
@@Sableagle that is how Hipoints are built
@@neitherman9997 I remember its called that after they put out polls for the name and that name wins. I remember also they tried to back out on actually naming that until H&K goaded them into it.
@@ArchusKanzaki wait... so H&K basically told hi-point "no balls" and it worked? lol
@@Sableagle There's a guy who's got lots of broken Hi-points (on his ranch).
Slogan idea for HiPoint:
“At least we’re not Taurus”
I mean... I kinda like hi point because they make guns that look like lego bricks
At least with a Hi-Point you’re guaranteed to have it work. She’s ugly as sin but she keeps on trucking.
Hi-Point's de facto slogan is 'Dirt Cheap and Functions'. Taurus' is 'Good Value, If It Works'.
Stephen Williams the customer service point is a good one. There are a number of people with Taurus pistols that have had very good experiences. There are also a number, my impression is perhaps more than some other brands percentage wise, that haven’t had as good of a time. I have yet to hear from someone that sent a pistol in to Taurus that didn’t have a hell of a time in getting a response and then in getting the pistol back in a reasonable timeframe. Most of what I read is 6 months + turnaround, which sucks.
I think HiPoint accepts what they are, a low cost firearm made of cheaper materials. That’s fine and they back up their product when there is a problem. My gripe with Taurus is they make pistols that feel and look like they compete with more expensive pistols, but they don’t seem to back them up like the manufacturers of those more expensive pistols.
@@channelchannelchannelchannel Hey, don't u insult lego bricks, they still look a crapton better than a hi-point!
“Yeet me” never thought I’d hear gun Jesus say that
Suggestion: “Make me suffer” series where subscribers suggest atrocious guns to fire in competition scenarios...could include notable guests who are not so handicapped.
I like that idea. Just think of the possibilities... 🤭
Make him do this with a liberator
@@ethantaillefer-meyn9772 Obrez Mosin...
@@ethantaillefer-meyn9772 at least that thing *fires* when you pull the trigger.
@@ethantaillefer-meyn9772 with a liberator he would shoot another competitor and take his gun and finish the course.
Taurus has successfully sold me on Hi-Points.
Ouch... That's really bad.🙂
I love how hi-points are unironically good guns, especially for the price, but everyone hates them because of the meme that they are bad because they're cheap.
@Marino I have a Spectrum I love.
@@MatthewsGauss they were (well the pistols) were originally bad. sub 2009 the pistols had bad slides and the feed ramps were not very good. the mags were actual garbage. but they steadily improved and by 2013 they had a decent gun with better but still bad mags. they kept improving the quality from then on and it's the best sub $300 gun you could probably get. their carbines were kind of always good even though it's basically the same exact operating system as the pistol.
I'm honestly surprised how well the little white plus seems to work.
Yeah, Ian ratted on it quite a bit, but he seemed to hit most of his shots when the gun actually worked, so it's probably the least shit part of the gun.
I mean, it literally can't not be zeroed
@Jeff Lee And after 250?
I think it's the same idea as an occluded eye optic or the Bindon aiming concept. With both eyes open, the crosshairs super impose onto the vision of the eye that's not blocked by the gun. It was the red dot before the red dot was a thing.
This should fall under the category of “Forgotten weapons on purpose!”
_And out of the light came Gun Jesus, Yeet Cannon in hand._
How to summon a hi-point: “Yeet me.”
Looks like this pistol tries to beat the Zip 22 in "reliability".
yeah bro... just take "re" outta reliability
Just search at internet "taurus atirando sozinha"
To be fair, he took it right from the box, with no familiarity. If it were properly oiled, and perhaps try a variety of ammo to find what it shoots best, could improve its performance. It’s still a piece of junk, but may have faired better with some effort.
And I don’t get the weak laser sights, why bother? People think lasers are somehow foolproof, but I’ve got one on my pistol that is bright enough to see at 30+ yards, and no one shoots well with it without a lot of practice. Lasers take some getting used to, some good 3 dot sights are hard to beat.
Took my mom gun shopping for her birthday around the time the curve was introduced. Gun store guy had her convinced that was the gun she needed...
I bought her a glock 19.
I regret nothing 👍😂
you love your mom
mattatat1138 Never return to that gun store
Smart man
You chose wisely. When you really want to spoil her, get her a p365
The answer is always a Glock 19.
The old, 'Back-up gun for the back-up gun trick!'
It's actually a terribly clever means to give the other guy the idea that he had the upper hand, only to pull out his actual piece.
To be fair, while clever, it wasn't entirely original; Ian largely came up with the idea late one evening, around 7:00 AM, as his new bottle of rather smooth scotch was curiously empty, while watching the sword fight scene from The Princess Bride ( this scene, in fact : ua-cam.com/video/lC6dgtBU6Gs/v-deo.html ).
Fortunately he sobered up just enough to ask someone to "Yeet him" prior to attempting this feat in the third round of competition a few hours later that day. He was obviously only sober enough to shoot competitively, without any actual sights, and was forced to take an Uber home since he was obviously in no shape to drive.
On a side note, it was mostly agreed that this wasn't Ian's fault and most reasonable people still blame Karl for encouraging bad behavior by providing said "Yeeting" and not having done his part to drink the other half of the scotch. Karl will be required to use solely French firearms in matches for the foreseeable future.
@@ScottLovenberg missed it by that much!
I love how this gun is the perfect symbolism for Taurus' history as a gun manufacturer, for the past 20 years.
"I just....no."
Drops trash gun in trash
"Yeet me."
Gets handed the Yeet Cannon .5 seconds later.
😂😂😂
Best laugh I had all year.
The Zip, S333, and now this. It’s literally if the Three Stooges were firearms engineers.
"I pulled it out, and it broke."
Ahhhhh, Taurus.
I wouldn’t say all Taurus guns are bad. But the Curve does suck.
@UCPTkH1grjzZ3Dg8rDtPsYzA for that price, you could've gotten one gun that isn't a piece of shit. The only half decent Taurus is the TX22.
The epic crossover everyone waited for: Yeet cannon and Gun Jesus. My life is complete.
"And lo, the Taurus Curve performed like unto an ox with one leg before the plow."
Flatus chapter 7, verse 33
The fact that he can hit anything with that seems to be a testament to his skill
Nothing says "effortlessly efficient" like having to manually force a weapon into battery on the first round
In 30 years the Yeet Cannon is gonna have its own forgotten weapons video
Thanks, Ian. You just gave us the definitive review of the Taurus Curve, demonstrating and confirming that Kel-Tec is not the only company producing paperweights that somewhat resemble pistols.
Gun Jesus saying "Yeet Me!" may be the highlight of 2020.
Love the background giggling and reliability
When even Gun Jesus gets yelled at by a range officer, you know anyone can make mistakes :P
I must have missed that, what happened?
Tom Snider he was crouching using the rain barrel to stabilize and he got yelled at to stand up
Scott Allison Aha, I do recall that now, thank you.
Hey, look on the brighter side - The bullets appear to be coming out straight!
When they actually fire.
Got a point, it meets the requirement of "is a gun"
Chief Lone Wadi..."That laser's not for shooting with, it's just for lookin at."
My dad has one, and it only malfunctions if you run steel case ammo through it (as expected), so don't make judgements about the reliability from this sample size of 1. But a surprisingly helpful thing to do is to use the Loaded Chamber Indicator as an impromptu iron sight. Makes hitting things easier beyong point-shooting range. But if you want something that isn't extremely niche and is actually versatile, a Yeet Cannon is a definitely better choice in every way (except concealability).
*Looks at my Taurus G3C*
God, I can't believe you came from the same company!
I love how he just threw it in the trash.
Where it belongs
You see those warriors from Brazil? They've got curved pistols. Curved. Pistols.
This guy wins the internet🤣
Ian: the Taurus Curve is the worst!
*Karl trying to hit a target at three yards with a keyholing S333*
then again at least the volleyfire shoots...
I would love to see if these problems were common across say 10 of both models of gun but that would be giving money to Taurus and STD Manu and I don't think they should be rewarded for this.
Amazing, never thought I'd see a situation where a Hi-Point is actually an upgrade.
I thought “Yeet cannon” was a term of endearment but I had to look it up and there’s actually a gun called a yeet cannon lmao
I thought "yeet cannon" was a gun that was more effective by throwing it at the bad guy.
That was the Yeet Cannon G1, which was simply the then current HiPoint 9mm with limited edition marking. The Yeet Cannon YC9 is still not shipping. HiPoint made the mistake of letting 'the internet' name their new 9mm. H&K shamed them into actually using the name the people voted on.
You need a second sister channel to this one..."Weapons I Want to Forget" or even"Forgettable Weapons"!
I just had an ear to ear smile reading this
The new liberator? Literally use it by shooting it once to find something better
Well at least with the Liberator you are likely to have it actually shoot the first time. Can't say the same for the Taurus.
You might as well just use a slamfire 410 or a gb22 at that point
I guess my jericho ja22 is finally a good idea
Nope, for the price you'd get at dozen of liberators.
When we were about 17 yrs old (2013) me and a friend in Brazil made a plastic/cardboard custom pistol (it's a toy, doesn't fire anything) that looks exactly like the Curve and posted it to Facebook, but before the Curve was announced. It's probably coincidence, but still bizarre.
"The first time I drew it, it broke"
Classic Taurus.
Lmfao when he says “Yeet me” and gets handed the yeet cannon
So you were 39th out of 43.... What did the last guys use? Longbows? Actually, that might still be better if you're fast enough.....
Those were the only four members of the local ZiP .22 collectors club.
No they were running around picking up rocks and throwing them.
@@Sableagle Thanks for the links. Just subbed to Tod's Workshop because of this.
Longbows can at least hit targets.
Tod of Tod's workshop and Tod Cutler here
For all the shade we throw at Hi-Point, their guns definitely work. For the price point, I'll always go Hi-Point over Taurus.
How old is yours? Apparently some older magazines didn't work worth crap, but the newer ones are better. Don't quote me on it, though, just a rumor has it according to some vague source on the internet I don't remember where sort of thing. Either way, JHP owner, myself.
@@sinisterthoughts2896 So they're still better than the Taurus Curve then?
I have to agree 100 percent with you. My .40 high point ain't pretty but she works.
@@Seeker-wq8jc yes the old mags were actual trash. the feed lips were awful and the spring was wonky. thankfully they got better.
I've had 2 hi points since 2013. First one had mag issues, so we sent the gun back cuz the warranty. Second one has ran nearly flawless ever since. Love my hi point c9
That whooshing sound that you just heard was the "yeet" references going over my head.
Yeet is an onomatopoeia, just a new one. I don't think people who use it are referring to a particular thing.
Wtf is yeet an onomotopia for? Like..a duck?
@@rays5163 It's for swift movement. Jumping, dashing, stealing from someone's hand. It's like YOINK.
thats literally the model name of the gun as well in case you aren't aware. The Hi-Point Yeet Cannon G1.
'Y' - A wide envelope onset sound implying swift acceleration.
'ee' - An extended, high-frequency sound implying fast travel at a consistent rate.
't' - a sudden, percussive offset implying... a sudden, percussive stop.
Swift acceleration, to extended, consistent travel, to sudden stop. It's an object being thrown.
Hearing Ian say "YEET Me" was all the enjoyment I needed for the day 👍😂
I knew I was in for a treat the moment Ian matter-of-factly described the manner in which the magnet for the light/laser broke the first time he drew the gun.
Now I'm really curious what the 4 people who scored worse were shooting
Right?! Could you imagine watching that fiasco of a showing, and then come in behind him?
He said give me the Hi-Point...Welcome to the dark side Ian.
When are you doing a shotgun match with the SPAS-12?
number23br I would be willing to provide the shotgun!
😆
"and it jammed on the first round. When I first heard about the "Curve" I thought it was an April Fool joke.
Thanks for the video Ian. Awesome as always. I am the owner of a Taurus Curve. I got it stupid cheap and I thought it was an interesting and strange design. With a little work it can be made into a reliable shooter. Some work on the feed ramp and slide drastically reduced the number of malfunctions and added to the overall smoothness.
It is now a decent little repeating belly gun.
At the time I bought my first pocket pistol with a gift card a friend gave me for my birthday, the choices came down to a Taurus Curve or a Ruger LCP II. I am SO glad I went with the LCP II now!
The cross is there because the gun sucks so much you, better start praying
Ian's mask game is strong. Its the 2020 version of his hat game.
@@tyrannosaurusimperator Different range, different rules. Ask them...
Should have used kerchief instead of mask for a proper wild west look.
A mask on a beautiful sunny day in the middle of nowhere with a.01-.002 risk factor. The country is being punked.
@@tyrannosaurusimperator last range I went on I had to shoot with mask on - OK so was a respirator, in full kit at 300m while I was still serving lol
Forgotten weapon and rightly so.
I have forgotten about this entirely so its par for the course
Yes but . . . unfortunately, somebody must have remembered where they'd buried that one . . . and then sold it to Ian.
He who forgets history is doomed to repeat it so remember the gun so you don't make another shitty one like it again!
Colphne be like
Man of culture
Well, theres a cultured chavalier here
It is built like a Jeep...guaranteed to spend more time in the shop than out 😏
Owning two 1944 Dodge 3/4 tonners and thre e Land Rovers, you have my full support on that one! :-)
All three of my wranglers (2 yj and a tj) were bulletproof with the 4.0l. But the wk grand cherokee, has been pretty problematic. Seems like every year I'm chasing a ghost evap leak lol
@@Steve_I In UK the Classic military world is divided into two camps, those of us who own Dodges, and the rest who wish they did:-)
Ahh but I miss my XJ so much!
@@Steve_I If you haven't yet, I'd try changing the NVLD pump, those seem to cause a lot of those evap leak codes at random when they are going out
I understand the purpose of testing it this way, but geez imagine the amount of metal shavings and gunpowder-laden grease that thing has in it right out of the box, being a Taurus. I imagine it would be at least somewhat useful after a decent cleaning. That's typically why South American guns come with an instruction manual that says "Step 1: Scrub the hell out of it and oil every moving surface"
The problem is that the people who buy this are NOT going to clean and oil it. But I understand where you are coming from.
@@bindingcurve We would call those "irresponsible gun owners"
@@Mightylcanis more like average...
I agree. I would like to have seen how the gun performed cleaned and oiled. I understand the attempt at replicating an apathetic owner, but now you have two variables in your experiment, so we don’t know if the malfunctions are due to the gun or due to the failure to properly clean and lube the gun. I actually thought about getting one of these when they came out to use as back-up - slip it in a boot or put it in an overcoat pocket while my main gun is on my waist with my coat buttoned over it.
@@vksjd I mean its a cool idea. I've seen other videos of the Curve, it seemed to work just fine.
Ooooooh so *this* is the gun that Zach mentioned that has the rear sight painted on the butt end of the gun....
...and ofc it's a Taurus. **Angry garbage bin noise**
Ah, yes. Mike and Zach. The source for the best unsolicited gun information..
@@JJRodriguez yes
I love it when Mike winds Zach up about guns.
"I know more about how an AR-15 works than I do about interpersonal relationships"
- Zach
Angry taurus raging bull noises
In my experience with my Taurus Spectrum, it's very temperamental with the type of ammunition it likes and doesn't. Also, after breaking in the mag spring, the malfunctions became fewer if not non-existant.
I know the guy who started the campaign to have that thing named the Yeet Cannon. Never let the public name your new firearm. :D
Wow so this is the gun the Elbonian army adopted as their backup sidearm!
I think even the Elbonian Ministry of Defence would pass on this one.
What ya guys talkin about?
@@alexmaurice4274 Watch Forgotten Weapons series on "Elbonia".😁
Gosh, I've seen 2$ ASG lasers brighter than the one on this thing.
Taurus doesn't seem to be moving from "craptastic" category anytime soon.
These were made a long time ago and the laser on them is very tiny...
It was designed to fit on smaller women, the curve design was supposed to be due to straight firearms not being great for a women to carry etc....
At least Taurus is consistent, 40 years ago the guy next to me in a police course was firing a Taurus revolver. I finished the course by switching to my left eye because of the blood in my right eye. I had a piece of Taurus in my forehead. (It was training...you don't stop for minor problems!)
@@bradleybarnhart4188 The only time I've ever seen part of a gun fly straight at a shooter's face were with a Colt 1911 and a Marlin 1894. 99% of the time that kind of breakage is user error (barely attached aftermarket parts, repairs with cyanoacrylate...).
Also, I call bullshit on your story, tough guy :)
Actually their whole Millennium line is quite good. Their most recent, the G3 and G3C have received nothing but praise from the gun reviewers I've been able to find.
When Gun Jesus condemns a heretical gun to summon a holy gun.
Just when you thought cheap backup guns had finally matured, Taurus arrives to throw you a Curve.
Ian shows up
Range officer: what weird suboptimal gun are you running today?
"YEET ME!" lol, im guessing the yeet cannon is some sort of in-joke
It's an actual pistol from Hi-Point.
Hi-Point had a contest to name their new pistol, and YC9 (Yeet Cannon 9) won by miles. Until that's actually released they've stamped Yeet Cannon G1 (Generation 1) on the side of some of their current pistols because Hi-Point knows their target market better than any other gun company
@@lordhellfire153 no, they tried refusing to call it the yeet cannon. Highpoints customers just know how to be loud enough to be heard....
To the original poster yeet is a slang term for basically disposing of something at speed. So he yeeted the curve into the trash, then got the yeet cannon to yeet some 9mm down range and yeet some targets.
"yeet me" translates to "Carl, please hand me the Hi-Point 9mm, thank you"
@@vidard9863 nope, they pretended to refuse
the (fill in a blank box) polls actually had "ps9" as in "problem solver" being the winning one but they nixed that right quick and only gave a curated poll to vote on the next time