1:44 & 2:35 No one can play these parts like Martha!(even Gould sounds dull at these parts) I have never ever heard any other performances than hers. She is accelerating the tempo and changing the accent position very cautiously and effectively. Like a sense of burgeoning rhythm towards the glorious future . I feel her very subtle and deep musical intelligence when listning to these parts every time.
I bought this LP(!) about 40 years ago. Since then I have been a great fan of her. I don't have a turntable and cannot play the LP now. Than you for uploading my dear music.
@@ylee3255in fact Gould is the keyboard 100-100 Argerich mainly orchestras more than solo piano since some years , it's a fact not a personnal opinion
Quelle artiste ! grandiose!! cette intelligence qui transparaît tout au long de l'interprétation,avec le phrasé,le son,les tempi,l'articulation,l'équilibre,la virtuosité,etc.........
she's actually one of the few i can tolerate to play Bach other than Gould. Then I went and listened to Gould on this same piece and within 1 bar I was like....yeah....wow. He's on another planet
Que buen encontrar buen encontrar más estas joyaspor Marta siempree rgimtana por el claave bien tremperado esta. Vetvip.n muy buena me regocija escuchar yarcar el perfecto ritmo. !
Quel bonheur UA-cam '' Je 'baigne dans ma musique préférée et J. S BACH.Merci' 'Bises '' Vraiment ' c' est fort à la mon cœur. Cest un Génie, c'est la Fécondité '' Amour. Merci encore.
catherine schickel parfait, la perfection 'M.Argerich'Sempre' e ancora'Interpretation''Exellente. L' unanimité-quoi''Martha Argerich. BACE CARA' Jeu exemplaire, limpide''' 'INNÉ. cs.
How she gives expression to each hand is beyond me. As a Canadian, of course I love Gould, but he's a bit too exact... Also Bach is so interpretative that every musician playing his music is in their own mind. And before I get negative comments, I've been playing and studying Bach cello suites for over 25 years...it changes on the daily.
You write like an adolescent twit. "Bach is so interpretative"? _Interpretative_ doesn't mean "open to interpretation." Moreover, you merely assume the music of Bach is open to interpretation because there are no performance directions in the original score and because you are ignorant of Baroque performance practice.
@@herrickinman9303 I'm just glad I'm not an asshat. I've seen you needing to prop yourself up on others comments as well. It must be annoying to have an inner need to be right. Narcissism of an extreme kind.
Bonsoir UA-cam ' je suis A l' écoute de mes, (nos) chères disques préférés quel bonheur, d'autres sont encore à écouter BACH et encore d'autres 'je suis ravies vraiment. BISOUS à mon intention, c' est délicat j'en suis heureuse merci UA-cam, à tous, '' BISES '' BONNE NUIT, BIEN À VOUS C'EST GENTIL. CS-
Fine hypnotic metrical demonry if a little fast and insistent throughout and with the relatively wide and unidiomatic dynamic shading as distinct from Gould’s narrow focus on the argument; flowing engagement but the subtly jaunty romanticism is far from Gould’s evenly inward focus and the experience has become sickly before the end. A parallel situation is Barenboim and Uchida in the Mozart sonatas- masculine hard intellectualism over feminine curvey sensuousness.
J bough the first Argerich-vinyl in 1970 Lizst-sonata and also in 1970 my first Pollini Studies-Chopin two great pianists were born in 70' Argerich and Pollini . J listened less Pollini after 80' also less Argerich after 80 ' my personnal opinion not for everyone of course
Bourrée I&II starting 13:03. A bit too harsh in my view. Some imperfections at 13:44-13:50. A bit rushed after 15:04. I prefer Ivo Pogorelich's version which is almost perfect. But Ivo was clearly inspired by Martha, who recorded this record 6 years before Ivo!
Gijs Schubert please let us listen your perfect version of the same... criticising Martha Argeririch without an audio of your version is very easy ,very brave and a little bit stupidi too......but we are waiting for your interpretation.
I like the version she played in 1969 elsewhere on youtube. That was the younger fast and impatient Martha. It was played with speed, but she still catches all the expression. Speed was right at the limit, and it seems to be just perfect. Pogorelich seems to be little faster still and lost some expression. Gould on the other hand is slower, but too perfect and too academic. He lost the free spirit. Is the Goldilocks principle. Martha was just right.
L'instantané des titres '' est pour mon cœur '' un Baume. Merci j'écoute la musique religieusement. LE SILENCE EST UN DÉSERT DE AGRÉABLE, LE Paradis ' quoi.! (s)
LISEZ'VOUS la Musique le Jeu est Académique avec ttes sa Subtilité, Sa personnalité. Tout doux il ya d'autre interprète de talents'' à 18 ans M.Argerich' remportait les suffrages Unanimes. ÉCOUTEZ ' M.Argerich. DS' d'autres œuvres 'compositeurs. VS Allez bien trouver. L' oreille musicale est Sensible. A VS d'écouter d'autres interprétations de M. ARGERICH.'' Martha c'est la Culture de chaque notes '' Écouter une Interview d'elle à propos de ses interprètations, bref ! Vs changerez d'avis peut-être. Peut importe ' salut. Pour moi MARTHA. A.est intouchable, elle est Parfaite. N' insistez pas. L'interprétation fe cette pianiste. Est intouchable.pour son Public elle excelle. C'est ainsi ! Top'merci. Ho !
teteskone41 not that it's a racing competition, but the great Russian pianist Anatoly Vedernikov (Richter's two-piano partner and a Bach interpreter every bit as great as his famous friend) plays the gigue some 15 seconds faster than Gould - and with a clarity comparable to Gould's. Maybe you read Richter's diaries where he's comparing the partitas as played by Gould and Vedernikov, often preferring the latter. Not saying I do, I'm obsessed with both, but Vedernikov deserves to be in every conversation about great Bach pianists.
Vintage sewing-machine style. Even though it keeps a strict rhythm it still sounds rushed. How is that accomplished, because it’s a mystery to me. He was also about resonance, harmony and expression, am I making any sense at all? Leave the spirit of this to the music boxes of that period. They were snappy little virtuosi, too fast maybe, but eggs must be cracked!
I love Martita but the Prelude and the Allemande are too fast. The allemande should be always taken like it was a lullaby ... and the prelude hides a proper counterpoint melody that you can render explicitly when you play it on the piano.
You say, "The allemande should be always taken like it was a lullaby." Sentimental nonsense. The allemande is dance form; no one dances to a lullaby. A lullaby is a sleep aid for children, not a dance.
A question of opinion and interpretation. Nobody can know exactly how Bach would determine the speed. But I can see where you´re coming from, and it is also my opinion that sometimes Martha speeds up the works not only in this case but in some others. Again it is just my humble opinion, too fast for my taste but a great interpretation whatsoever.
@@gustavogutierrez5482 Ever since Liszt, professional concert pianists who play Bach's solo keyboard music in concert tend to put on a dog and pony show to wows the audience by playing Bach as fast or faster than their rivals.
It’s not trivial to say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder in this comparison, which might best be made a little more analytically for the sake of understanding the differences rather than claiming one is better that the other, which can be a matter of personal preference. A case could be made for every competent interpretation. Bach speaks to the hearts of performers and listeners alike. For me, it’s fascinating to hear differences of interpretation. Vikingur Olafsson is showing a lot of promise too. Try his version of BWV 989 for example. He takes full advantage of the dynamic range of the piano in a quite purposeful way. What if we could take the best example of the modern piano and bring Bach to the modern concert hall to play once again? Not a real possibility of course, but a little fantasy doesn’t hurt either.
I feel so fortunate to live in an age when I have availability to listen to Martha Argerich play a lifetime of beautiful piano music.
I am discovering Martha Agerich only recently. Better late than never, I am completely blown away by her playing. She is amazing.
She sure is!
She’s fantastic!
it really sucks that she didn't record more bach .
1:44 & 2:35 No one can play these parts like Martha!(even Gould sounds dull at these parts)
I have never ever heard any other performances than hers.
She is accelerating the tempo and changing the accent position very cautiously and effectively. Like a sense of burgeoning rhythm towards the glorious future . I feel her very subtle and deep musical intelligence when listning to these parts every time.
She's brilliant
Bach played at the highest artistic level.
Thank you
My pleasure!
I don't care what "they" say, UA-cam opened a portal for saints and angels! Thank you
"Saint van der Waal"
for rekindling a living angel 80yrs young!
:)
Sublime, maravilloso, espléndido.
1. Prélude 00:10
2. Allemande 04:26
3. Courante 07:22
4. Sarabande 08:55
5. Bourée I/II 13:04
6. Gigue 16:58
thank you!
Dynamite, spirit, fluidity, daring... she had it all. Still does
Thanks!
Sublime
Grazie infinite per questa condivisione. Splendida.
I bought this LP(!) about 40 years ago. Since then I have been a great fan of her. I don't have a turntable and cannot play the LP now. Than you for uploading my dear music.
My pleasure!
My favorite pianist forever
Did you try Andrei Gavrilov?
Mine too!!!! QUEEN Martha for ever! 😍😍😍😍😍
listened to gould before?
@@TechnoRaabe Gould and Argerich has completely different style so I don't think a person who likes Argerich the best would love Gould as well.
@@ylee3255in fact Gould is the keyboard 100-100 Argerich mainly orchestras more than solo piano since some years , it's a fact not a personnal opinion
Excellent performer and recording of this masterpiece!
Divine music, fantastic performance!
I simply love this most expansive & beautiful music, which is relaxing from beginning to end.How cleverMartha is all the way through.
Quelle artiste ! grandiose!! cette intelligence qui transparaît tout au long de l'interprétation,avec le phrasé,le son,les tempi,l'articulation,l'équilibre,la virtuosité,etc.........
La escucho siempre que necesito relajarme, gracias Martha por tan grandiosa interpretación de ésta majestuosa pieza de piano. ¡Vamos Argentina!
sublime and perfect
Thanks!
Perfect music suound ,ideas and style!!!Thanks Queens Martha!music bless you!😍😍😍❤❤❤❤
she's actually one of the few i can tolerate to play Bach other than Gould. Then I went and listened to Gould on this same piece and within 1 bar I was like....yeah....wow. He's on another planet
Quelle belle interprétation et quelle fougue.....
Amazing!
Que buen encontrar buen encontrar más estas joyaspor Marta siempree rgimtana por el claave bien tremperado esta. Vetvip.n muy buena me regocija escuchar yarcar el perfecto ritmo. !
Sublime.
Thanks!
Quel bonheur UA-cam '' Je 'baigne dans ma musique préférée et J. S BACH.Merci' 'Bises '' Vraiment ' c' est fort à la mon cœur. Cest un Génie, c'est la Fécondité '' Amour. Merci encore.
Je n'ai a ajouter
catherine schickel parfait, la perfection 'M.Argerich'Sempre' e ancora'Interpretation''Exellente. L' unanimité-quoi''Martha Argerich. BACE CARA' Jeu exemplaire, limpide''' 'INNÉ. cs.
Gracias Arnold por esta delicia. Saludos desde Argentina.
Thanks Rosa
Great. Especially the Allemande
Thanks!
this is maybe the most popuplar suite by J.S.Bach played by pianist whose repetoire is often of classical and romantic era.
Thamks for lettign us no.
Géniale
laurent thanks
thanks for this :)
also martha is the best on youtube performer of this suite
no. Glenn Gould is
This vs pogorelich and gould. All are beautiful
You're so right Alan
This word beautifoul . . .
Nah, more like this, and then Gould and Sokolov. IMO those 2 are just a whole different level compared to other piano performances like this one.
Not to forget Angela Hewitt!
@@not2tees sorry! bad spelling
insuperable
www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/10/review_martha_argerich_remains.html
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How she gives expression to each hand is beyond me. As a Canadian, of course I love Gould, but he's a bit too exact...
Also Bach is so interpretative that every musician playing his music is in their own mind. And before I get negative comments, I've been playing and studying Bach cello suites for over 25 years...it changes on the daily.
You write like an adolescent twit. "Bach is so interpretative"? _Interpretative_ doesn't mean "open to interpretation." Moreover, you merely assume the music of Bach is open to interpretation because there are no performance directions in the original score and because you are ignorant of Baroque performance practice.
@@herrickinman9303 I'm just glad I'm not an asshat. I've seen you needing to prop yourself up on others comments as well. It must be annoying to have an inner need to be right. Narcissism of an extreme kind.
Bonsoir UA-cam ' je suis A l' écoute de mes, (nos) chères disques préférés quel bonheur, d'autres sont encore à écouter BACH et encore d'autres 'je suis ravies vraiment. BISOUS à mon intention, c' est délicat j'en suis heureuse merci UA-cam, à tous, '' BISES '' BONNE NUIT, BIEN À VOUS C'EST GENTIL. CS-
catherine schickel Ciao a tutti. Le style reste assuré, fluide.
Che Marta decime la verdad, vos sos de aca de este planeta?
Sur la couverture du disque, le SOURIRE de Martha Argerich est un Collector.
Glen gould! Maarta! Tatiana nikolaeva!
Martha has fans.
Fine hypnotic metrical demonry if a little fast and insistent throughout and with the relatively wide and unidiomatic dynamic shading as distinct from Gould’s narrow focus on the argument; flowing engagement but the subtly jaunty romanticism is far from Gould’s evenly inward focus and the experience has become sickly before the end. A parallel situation is Barenboim and Uchida in the Mozart sonatas- masculine hard intellectualism over feminine curvey sensuousness.
그레이트!
Y es Argentina....
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J bough the first Argerich-vinyl in 1970 Lizst-sonata and also in 1970 my first Pollini Studies-Chopin two great pianists were born in 70' Argerich and Pollini . J listened less Pollini after 80' also less Argerich after 80 ' my personnal opinion not for everyone of course
Bourrée I&II starting 13:03. A bit too harsh in my view. Some imperfections at 13:44-13:50. A bit rushed after 15:04.
I prefer Ivo Pogorelich's version which is almost perfect. But Ivo was clearly inspired by Martha, who recorded this record 6 years before Ivo!
Gijs Schubert please let us listen your perfect version of the same... criticising Martha Argeririch without an audio of your version is very easy ,very brave and a little bit stupidi too......but we are waiting for your interpretation.
As for 15:04, I also prefer Pogorelich's version.
I like the version she played in 1969 elsewhere on youtube. That was the younger fast and impatient Martha. It was played with speed, but she still catches all the expression. Speed was right at the limit, and it seems to be just perfect.
Pogorelich seems to be little faster still and lost some expression.
Gould on the other hand is slower, but too perfect and too academic. He lost the free spirit.
Is the Goldilocks principle. Martha was just right.
Quel disque génial ! mais tout de même un peu de précipitation.... certains passages semblent trop accélérés.
do my eyes deceive me or do the captions in this video use the mount and blade warband font
Bach is the Stokhausen of baroque. Something like that!
Wagner is the Puccini of Music.
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Who are the four tone-deaf idiots who gave this a thumbs down? How silly. Where are their performances?
Thanks!
Their performances are more than likely in their collective anus.........
Even faster than Gould
Nobody plays the gigue faster than Gould. Pogorelich and Schiff are close, but not faster.
L'instantané des titres '' est pour mon cœur '' un Baume. Merci j'écoute la musique religieusement. LE SILENCE EST UN DÉSERT DE AGRÉABLE, LE Paradis ' quoi.!
(s)
LISEZ'VOUS la Musique le Jeu est Académique avec ttes sa Subtilité, Sa personnalité. Tout doux il ya d'autre interprète de talents'' à 18 ans M.Argerich' remportait les suffrages Unanimes. ÉCOUTEZ ' M.Argerich. DS' d'autres œuvres 'compositeurs. VS Allez bien trouver. L' oreille musicale est Sensible. A VS d'écouter d'autres interprétations de M. ARGERICH.'' Martha c'est la Culture de chaque notes '' Écouter une Interview d'elle à propos de ses interprètations, bref ! Vs changerez d'avis peut-être. Peut importe ' salut. Pour moi MARTHA. A.est intouchable, elle est Parfaite. N' insistez pas. L'interprétation fe cette pianiste. Est intouchable.pour son Public elle excelle. C'est ainsi ! Top'merci. Ho !
teteskone41 not that it's a racing competition, but the great Russian pianist Anatoly Vedernikov (Richter's two-piano partner and a Bach interpreter every bit as great as his famous friend) plays the gigue some 15 seconds faster than Gould - and with a clarity comparable to Gould's. Maybe you read Richter's diaries where he's comparing the partitas as played by Gould and Vedernikov, often preferring the latter. Not saying I do, I'm obsessed with both, but Vedernikov deserves to be in every conversation about great Bach pianists.
@@teteskone41 but this is not a race! What does it mean? music and Only Music Has real importance! And with Queen Martha there are a lot! Listen well!
Vintage sewing-machine style. Even though it keeps a strict rhythm it still sounds rushed. How is that accomplished, because it’s a mystery to me. He was also about resonance, harmony and expression, am I making any sense at all? Leave the spirit of this to the music boxes of that period. They were snappy little virtuosi, too fast maybe, but eggs must be cracked!
P.S. From personal experience I expect some fan-boy or fan-girl will want to flame me personally in return, but I don’t get notifications.
@@Am33304 Well, if you did, you'd know that according to contemporaries, Bach himself liked to take things fast.
I love Martita but the Prelude and the Allemande are too fast. The allemande should be always taken like it was a lullaby ... and the prelude hides a proper counterpoint melody that you can render explicitly when you play it on the piano.
You say, "The allemande should be always taken like it was a lullaby." Sentimental nonsense. The allemande is dance form; no one dances to a lullaby. A lullaby is a sleep aid for children, not a dance.
A question of opinion and interpretation. Nobody can know exactly how Bach would determine the speed. But I can see where you´re coming from, and it is also my opinion that sometimes Martha speeds up the works not only in this case but in some others. Again it is just my humble opinion, too fast for my taste but a great interpretation whatsoever.
@@gustavogutierrez5482 Ever since Liszt, professional concert pianists who play Bach's solo keyboard music in concert tend to put on a dog and pony show to wows the audience by playing Bach as fast or faster than their rivals.
Na, ist Mozart!
i do not like her poor sound in the sarabande ! the beautiful chords are not coloured enough, and played too soft !!
Compared to Gould this is a very poor interpretation...
nonsense
@@aston0708 in your head
ha! "A very poor interpretation" - -you must be high.
@@JudahMaccabee_ Not at all. There is the abstratio and the distratio. You are a very distracted person...
It’s not trivial to say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder in this comparison, which might best be made a little more analytically for the sake of understanding the differences rather than claiming one is better that the other, which can be a matter of personal preference. A case could be made for every competent interpretation. Bach speaks to the hearts of performers and listeners alike. For me, it’s fascinating to hear differences of interpretation. Vikingur Olafsson is showing a lot of promise too. Try his version of BWV 989 for example. He takes full advantage of the dynamic range of the piano in a quite purposeful way. What if we could take the best example of the modern piano and bring Bach to the modern concert hall to play once again? Not a real possibility of course, but a little fantasy doesn’t hurt either.
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