Wagner 250M Setup. Airless Spray Tips Explained. Wagner 250M Cleaning
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2022
- Wagner Control Pro 250M Setup. Wagner Control Pro 250 M paint sprayer setup. Wagner Control Pro 250M Cleaning
Setting the correct pressure for spraying with a Wagner paint sprayer. Wagner paint sprayer cleaning..
An issue raised frequently on the PaintHQ channel, is those purchasing a Wagner Control Pro Airless Paint Sprayer, wanting to swap out the Control Pro HEA gun or use a professional airless hose.. this video will demonstrate that this is not possible.. for safety reasons the Control Pro series of sprayers can only use their own proprietary fittings.. however the 7/8” tip guard thread is standard, so professional 7/8” fittings and accessories such as gun extensions can be used.. this will also be demonstrated in the video..
Wagner HEA ProTip and Fine Finish tips require the Wagner Professional TradeTip 3 Tip Guard.. Wagner Control Pro Spray Tips only fit the proprietary Control Pro Tip Guard.
Also, airless spray gun filters explained. Plus spraying with a Wagner Control Pro 311 and Wagner Professional Fine Finish 208 tip.. is there a difference?
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[0:47] Wagner Control Pro 250M Setup
[5:00] Wagner Professional Spray Tips
[5:33] Spraying With a Wagner Fine Finish 208 Tip
[7:17] Spraying With a Control Pro 311 Tip
[8:42] Cleaning the Wagner Control Pro 250M
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Another helpful vid Pete thanks you are helping me so much well done fella,👍
Thanks for the feedback my friend.. glad to be of help 🙏 ..regards Pete
Hello friend, I love your videos, all very well explained and demonstrated in practice, I wish you the best in your professional life
Hi Yaniel, you’re a diamond my friend.. appreciate the kind words 🙏
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great video mate 👌👌👌
Thank you so much - means a lot 🙏
My friend has this unit I sent him link he’s like oh that’s brilliant I was looking at one of those purple tips. 💯👍🏻
Thank you brother 🙏 ..Yeah investing in the professional guard and tips such as the purples could help raise the game for those using this unit 👏👏👏
@@PaintHQ he’s was only asking about that tip the other day this video will serve him well and answer any questions he may have for sure. 💯👍🏻
Ah that’s great 👏👏👏
Very useful video thank you.
When cleaning up, I found it's more efficient to put the return hose back into the waste bucket for a few seconds each time you change to clean water; then pop it back in the clean water to circulate. It chases the dirtier water through so you don't have to change the water as often
Thank you my friend.. I really appreciate you sharing your experience - great tip 👍 Keep in touch.. regards Pete
nice video pete thanks,its a handy little sprayer for the diyer and not too complicated,I have the bigger 350m extra which I use outside mainly for spraying fences or pebbledash walls,it works pretty well normally though it stopped priming/sucking in paint for me during the week and i tried all advice from the manual,didn't work,so now its with the service repair centre😃
Thank you Edmond, yeah it’s a popular sprayer with a few loyal subscribers to PaintHQ.. Sorry to hear you’ve had trouble, let me know how you get on at the service centre.. good luck buddy 👍
Hi Edmond, I also have a 350M and would also be interested in how you got on with the service centre. Also do you use water-based fence products e.g. Ronseal or Cuprinol? Many thanks and best wishes, Rob
I have got the 250r and I have put at least 700 litres through it and it still sprays fine I use it most days never had any major issues with it at all the best advice I can give is make sure you take the suction tube off and put some piston lube in it turn it upside down first obviously do this every single time you use it and you will have no problems at all plus I find the tips that come with the unit are not much good at all they only take about 40 litres though them then bin it the wagner trade tips are far far better they don't spit and last a lot longer
Appreciate your input John 🙏
Excellent content as always. I love my 350M Pro for doing walls, ceilings and woodwork (I’m a general builder) on my projects. I refining knowledge as much as I can about spraying and videos like yours really help. I had no idea about the trade guards and tips. What size tip would you recommend for 165mm skirting so it covers in one sweep. I’ve currently got a 311. I use 517 for walls and ceilings and last year I used a 619 for a long brick wall, damn that’s got some fan width, lol. Thanks again.
Hey Freddie, appreciate the support.. sounds like you’re doing great my friend and have really embraced spraying.. yeah the ‘pro’ setup with the TradeTip 3 Tip Guard and HEA ProTip / Fine Finish tips could serve you a lot better 👍 ..if you’ve been used to using a Control Pro 311, I’d use the ProTip Fine Finish 310 (Purple tip).. they’ll be a little less flow, so if you’ve had a problem at all with paint runs, it could help that.. you could even use less paint 👍 ..the 310 will give you a 6” fan, but I’d still look to coat a skirting in 2 passes.. one along the front, and a quicker pass over the top, with the gun angled to direct paint on the top edge.. if you’re used to one pass, adjust your technique by moving quicker with a 2nd pass.. you don’t want a run.. although a 310 will let out less paint Vs a 311 👍 ..Hope this helps buddy, links are in the video description for the tip guard and tips.. keep in touch and let me know how you get on 🙏 regards Pete
@@PaintHQ Thanks for that, Pete. I’m heading to Brewers tomorrow as I’m picking up a paint shield and according to their website they have a 310 in stock. Thanks again.
You’re welcome anytime.. let me know how you get on 🙏
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Hi Pete, can you help please? I have the Wagner 150M. I used it to spray my kitchen cabinets with the 311 tip and the result came out quite well. I now want to spray my wooden staircase spindles and handrail.(the spindles a 40mm x 40mm thick) I will be using a water based paint, satin finish. Although I can’t control the pressure, can I use any of the ‘smaller’ tips with this model? Or which tip would you advise that might work the best? Might the 211 work or would there still be too much overspray? The tips a quite expensive here so just wanted to ask before I go out and buy something else that won’t be suitable and want to try use the sprayer since I’ve already spent the money on that too! 😅
awesome video pete like always but in your experience ... could you use fine finish tips for kitchen units and wardrobes ect or would you use hvlp sprayers?
Thank you Gareth, appreciate the feedback.. at one time HVLP (along with AAA), was probably the only way to get a true fine finish.. with the advancement of fine finish and low pressure tips, using airless for cabinetry refinishing is very much possible and widely considered first choice in the refinishing world.. airless spraying is fast and you’ll use more material, whereas with HVLP you’ll have more control and use much less.. a hopper and smaller hose helps to get up and running to spray airless with less paint.. hope this helps my friend.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ i do few jobs on the side like landing and stairs ect but few jobs have poped up with updating kitchen units or wardrobes ect ... for my first HVLP machine what would you advice me to look in to i was looking at wagner 3500 🤷🏼♂️
Hey Gareth, by design (having ‘extra’ air), the Wagner XVLP 3500 is very effective at spraying a fine finish, with very little overspray.. especially when coupled with the Blue NAST head and spraying the Caparol NAST products.. In this video I demonstrate the XVLP 5000, (only difference is an external turbine), you’ll see me spraying a project using the blue NAST head..
How to spray with a Wagner XVLP Paint Sprayer. Spraying Caparol PU-Satin
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Regards Pete 🎨💯
Thanks for the video, big help as I have just ordered one of these. I am a pretty spraying, but not used anything airless before, so any tips from yourself or anyone reading are very welcome. Couple of quick questions though, do I need to water down paints? And can you put gloss through it? And if so, do thinners need to be used to wash through after?
Hey Matt, great news.. I’m happy to help and advise if I can my friend.. airless is pretty straight forward to setup, you don’t typically need to thin, with the right choice of tip and setting the correct pressure.. my tip is, look to spray at the lowest possible pressure whilst producing a nice even fan pattern (no tails and feathered edges).. so start off an a low setting and spray tests on some brown paper, and ease up the pressure 👍 ..then move relatively quickly, you can’t comprehend how quick material is sprayed 👍 ..yeah you can spray solvents, you just need to use the appropriate cleaner to flush the sprayer after you’ve finished.. keep in touch my friend, all the best on your spraying journey.. regards Pete 🙏
@@PaintHQ really appreciate the detailed reply. I will let you know how I get on and will take the advice on board!
Decided to go for water based gloss lol
hi again, great video and wonder if you can help? we have been using the control pro 515 tips, great for most things and recently bought the Wagner HEA ProTip 515 and it doesn't fit the guard on this machine, do we need the TradeTip 3 Guard? The differences are the tips we use at the moment have a sort of hexagonal top whereas the new HEA ProTip 515 has the rounded plastic top like the ones in the video. Will getting the Wagner Tradetip 3 Guard solve this ?
Any help you can give would really be appreciated as its frustrating the amount of bad advice out there. Finally, love the channel and videos, 5 stars to you mate !!
Hey buddy, great to hear from you.. you’re absolutely spot on, you’ll need the Wagner TradeTip 3 Tip Guard 7/8” to take the ‘professional’ tips.. rounded in appearance as you describe.. here’s a link, so you’ll see exactly what I mean.. also important that it’s the 7/8” screw fitting..
www.sprayman.co.uk/product/wagner-guard-tradetip-3-tip-holder-7-8/
Thanks for the kind words and supporting the channel, it’s very much appreciated.. regards Pete
Hi, love your videos. I've just started on my spraying journey and need a bit of advice if you don't mind. I have 12 internal doors to spray with water based eggshell paint. I undercoated today with an acrylic primer which spat a lot. I'm using a wagner purple fine finish 410 tip with a red filter. I'm thinking the paint is too viscous for this filter? Please advice on the best combination of filter colour and tip for my project. Thanks James
Apologies for my delay.. are you still having trouble my friend?.. A yellow 100 mesh filter is suitable for a 410 tip and a woodwork / trim paint that is thixotropic (can also be brushed / rolled) 👍 regards Pete
Hi Pete, really helpful videos, I’ve learnt a lot. I recently got the 250r to renovate my house. I found the control tip 517 had a little running on the walls/ceiling (maybe my technique). So would you suggest a pro tip 515 for Matt emulsion on the walls and a fine finish 208 for skirting using eggshell?
Hello my friend, really appreciate you watching and supporting the videos.. you’re spot on with your thought process, a 517 is fine for most typical emulsions, but potentially you would have to move quicker.. the flow rate of a .017 is significantly higher than a .015.. you could get a ControlPro 515, although if I recall they cost more than the ProTip HEA 515 (but you would also need the TradeTip holder).. as for the .008 tips, if you’re spraying a thixotropic trim / woodwork paint (one that you could also brush / roller), you’re more than likely going up needs a .010 tip such as a 210 or 310.. the professional fine finish (purple) tips will produce a finer finish.. but if you e had success with the ControlPro 311 then that’s great 👍 ..Keep going my friend, sounds like you’re understanding the technology and you’re doing great 🙏 ..Keep in touch.. happy to help if I can.. regards Pete
Why does my 208 trade tip ( purple) not fit my gun
@jamesscott9922 You need the Wagner TradeTip 3 Tip Guard 7/8”
www.sprayman.co.uk/product/wagner-tip-guard-7-8-289390/
Hope this helps.. regards Pete
Thank you. it opened up a world to me, i own a small wagner 350 R, and only after your video, i realized its potential. The gun attachment where the hose is screwed, what size is it? Has anyone found a compatible 3 max 5 MT hose on the European store? Thanks again
You’re very welcome, glad it helped.. yeah the ControlPro 350 is very popular, and I’ve had some great contribution on the channel from owners of that model.. they too have looked into the possibility of using standard fittings and I believe nothing was found available in Europe.. I understand why the ControlPro uses proprietary size fittings.. it’s to stop these lower pressure rated hoses and accessories being used on ‘professional’ airless units that are rated at a higher pressure and potentially risking injury.. keep in touch, it’ll be great to hear if you find a ‘work around me, likewise if I discover anything I will share with you 👍 regards Pete
Hi Pete
Love the channel the videos are very useful and helpful
Do you have any experience using the erbauer airless, was considering getting one, would you recommend it?
Hello my friend, really appreciate your kind feedback.. apologies for the delay in my response, I’ve been away for a couple of days.. I don’t have first hand experience using the Erbauer unit.. being a fan of all things spray related and wanting to showcase DIY solutions on the PaintHQ channel, I’m tempted to give it a run out 😆 ..first thing to look out for and probably most important, is to purchase a unit with the CE Kitemark.. which I believe the Erbauer units would have.. then if you was a professional and looking to dive into the wonderful world of spraying, I’d invest in a professional unit.. that way you get the true airless spraying experience, pressure gauge, professional fittings and components that last etc.. all helps when learning and worth the investment.. if it’s purely for DIY use, then yeah I’d go for the Wagner 250M over the Erbauer.. Wagner is a quality brand, a market leader with years of research and experience producing units in all spraying sectors.. this is not a slur on Erbauer, I’d suspect they could be a Chinese import (then I’d assume it gets the CE seal of approval).. I could be wrong though, apologies if I am... hope this helps, I’m more than happy to help you in any way I can.. keep in touch my friend.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ Thanks for that Pete much appreciated 👍
You’re welcome anytime buddy. Just reach out if you need my help 🙏
@@PaintHQ one last question 🤦♂️ you might be able to answer this with your experience. I use water based poly through a gravity feed gun and compressor, the issue I'm having is drying times due to thinning with water. With the airless do you find drying times a problem?
You’re welcome to ask questions anytime.. the drying / cure tine is pretty consistent through all applications spray (Airspray / airless) and brush / roller ..are you finding an extended dry time due to the addition of water?.. is the waterborne product an alkyd paint?.. The general re-coat time is longer I believe with alkyd Vs acrylic, but the fully cure time is quicker with alkyd paints.. you can kind of push the boundaries with spraying and re-coating.. hope this helps.. regards Pete
Hi mate Do you think the 350m version would be good for spraying metal cladding on the outside of a pretty big factory all the way around ?
Hello my friend.. a job of that size, I’d caution against a 350M.. Still in the DIY bracket of airless sprayers, I believe a max tip size .019.. it would probably get the job done with a 517 or 619 tip -but the pump would be running flat out, and could be end of life at the finish 😔..Hope this helps my friend 🙏 regards Pete
Great Videos. I’ve a 250m that stopped spraying last week. Return tube returns the fluid on prime, on spray setting ,the unit runs for a couple of seconds , then stops. Doesn’t spray or fire up at when the trigger is pressed.
The Pressure release procedure seems to work but machine doesn’t fire up or spray
I’ve cleaned it from gun tip / filter , inlet & outlet & pusher stem is tight but does click
Any ideas?
Have you ever had remove stuck inlet or
outlet valves for cleaning ?
Apologies for my delayed response.. have you sorted it at all my friend.. if you can prime but not spray water, i fear the pump may have reached end of life.. have you had any paint leak from the inlet area / underneath.. you could check the inlet / outlet valves, if I recall there is a procedure on the manual.. let me know how it’s going, wishing you luck buddy🙏 ..regards Pete
@@PaintHQ Hi Pete, thanks for the reply.
It won’t prime now, on prime the motor keeps running & doesn’t build any pressure. I’ve stripped the inlet valve components completely & blown through the sealed outlet valve.
The sealed inlet ball moves against the spring when pressed. I’ve read this is the main culprit for this machine not spraying, but it looks ok as far as can be tested.
Have you opened these machines to look at the piston? Maybe stuck?
This is is a lightly used
machine.
Thanks again
BONJOUR , super vidéo, claire, net est précise, mais il me vient quand même une petite question . Lors du nettoyage vous employez à peu près 40 litres d'eau pour une peinture acrylique , mais pour une peinture glycéro on ne peut pas employer 40 litres de white spirit ?. Quel est le procédé à utiliser pour nettoyage peinture glycéro; Merci pour votre réponse
bonjour mon ami... c'est une très bonne question 👍 Vous devez toujours utiliser le nettoyant approprié, comme le white spirit -- cependant vous n'en aurez pas besoin autant que vous le pensez... curculez de petites quantités -- juste assez pour amorcer la pompe puis circulez dans le tuyau... puis une autre petite quantité, et ce que vous constaterez, c'est qu'il élimine le solvant très rapidement, potentiellement plus rapidement qu'une base d'eau 👍 L'inconvénient général de ce pulvérisateur, est la taille du tuyau propriétaire, la quantité de peinture pour être pulvérisée et ne pas pouvoir échanger le tuyau. merci pour votre question, j'espère que cela aide.. cordialement Pete 🇫🇷💙💯
Hi mate I’m thinking of buying this, quick question I wanna know if it would be any good for painting doors and door frames with oil based undercoat and satin wood on new builds, and what tips would be best for a fine finish? Cheers
Hello my friend.. this unit certainly can spray oil / solvent based products, and you could achieve a very good finish with fine finish tips.. just a couple of points though.. first, one big drawback is the size and length of hose (if I recall 9 or 10 metre), and siphon feed, takes quite a bit of material to ‘prime’ the system.. which you get get back out of the hose and return to the can, but you would probably need to spray out if at least 5 litre cans.. and unfortunately the hose and fittings are a proprietary size so you can’t swap to a smaller line ☹️ ..then secondly, being a DIY unit, you don’t get the true airless experience, by that I mean, a fully adjustable pressure and a gauge to see what pressure you’re at.. don’t get me wrong, it’s a very nice / popular unit that would have helped many a DIYer and perhaps those wanting to try out airless spraying.. my recommendation, especially if your a professional, is invest in a PRO unit, something with a smaller line (or you can swap out to a smaller line), a pressure gauge.. and I like a hopper (especially for fine finish spraying).. I know it’s more of an investment, but you mention new builds, perhaps the Graco GXFF Cordless world be a good fit ? ..you’ll soon get a return on your investment 🙏
Keep in touch my friend, happy to help if I can.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ Pete I appreciate that so much thank you I will look into the graco if it’s something you recommend I’ll probably go with that one I jus want something where I can do as much as I can in a week as I’m on price, I’m also gonna be looking at a sprayer for walls and ceilings if you could recommend one of them too? I’ll use graco for all woodwork with oils and then the other one you recommend for walls thanks again Pete if you have what’s app maybe I could get your number and we could keep in touch
Hello, good job, I wonder what you think about this device, I might buy it too... Do you think it will be able to paint houses? Thank you)
Hi Roman, just be aware this unit is marketed at DIY.. whilst it will spray a house, if used professionally day after day, the pump may not last.. plus, thicker materials will overwork the pump and again it potentially will not last.. otherwise it’s a lovely DIY unit made by a trusted brand 👍
Hi. Thank you for the video! Really helpful.
Please can you advice me on what tip and nozzle to use for Farrow&Ball emulsion(dead flat finish).
At the moment i’m using 517(white fillter) but are there any other options to make sure the finish will be ok? I’ll really appreciate if you can reply 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you !
So sorry for not replying sooner, hope this reaches you in time.. I've tended to find F&B emulsions 'problematic' to spray, potentially due to the pigments used -- I tend to prefer a 515 when spraying most emulsions -- you may benefit swapping out to the TradeTip professional tip guard and using the HEA Pro tips (such as the 515).. using a 515 Vs a 517, you get reduced flow, which gives you a bit more control (you can move the gun a little slower).. if you're having success with the 517, then that's great, keep going my friend, an airless sprayed finish is awesome.. hope this reaches you in time -- keep in touch, I'll always reply -- regards Pete
I'm just about to get one off these to paint are house with silk paint how much water should I mix with the paint 10% and would the 517 or 311 tip be better can you use this to gloss the skirting boards/doors and what should I thinnen gloss paint with and what tip would you recommend thanks
Ah cool.. adding a max 10% water to the emulsion will certainly help ease the paint for spraying.. yes my friend, use the supplied 517 for the emulsion / silk (walls / ceiling) and yes the 311 for woodwork / trim paint.. but don’t thin that, just the emulsion 👍
@@PaintHQ thank you so the gloss for skirtings/doors ect just spray as it is from the can much appreciate
Very nice...very little over spray !
Thank you my friend.. great to have your input on the channel.. regards Pete
I've got a 350 m, can I spray standard primer and eggshell with 311 and 208 tip, only used 515 tip so far spraying lots of t and g wood, thanks
Hey buddy, for the primer and I’m guessing the eggshell is a decorative product (suitable to use brush / roller).. I’d go for a 310 Purple Fine Finish tip.. like in the video, the 311 let’s out a bit more paint.. you could get runs if not moving quick enough.. certainly a 310 is generally used for spraying trim / woodwork.. then if the paint is a lower viscosity (thinner), perhaps you could warm the paint too.. a 208 or 308 are great tips for a bit more control (308 is a wider 6” pattern).. hope this helps, let me know how you get on.. regards Pete
Most of my spraying is doing shepherd's huts and pods, yes need to move quick with 515, paint thinned down, will try 310 tip. Is the white filter OK for this setup, thanks Pete. Check out elwy valley shepherds huts
You’re very welcome.. the TradeTip 310 (professional tip) will come with a red filter as part of the package.. pop that in my friend.. Just to recap so you’re not disappointed, you’ll need the TradeTip 3 Tip Guard 7/8” 👍 ..all links are in the video description 👍 ..I’ll most definitely check out what you’re producing with the huts / pods.. sounds very interesting, well done buddy, you’re doing great 💯 ..regards Pete
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@PaintHQ #PaintHQ - Please can you confirm that the PURPLE tip can be used on the 250M. I just spoke to a Wagner rep and he's trying to convince me that they are not suitable!!
The professional PURPLE tips will work as long as you swap out the ‘DIY’ ControlPro Tip Guard for a Wagner professional TradeTip 3 7/8” Tip Guard 👍 ..Equally you could swap out the Tip Guard for a Graco RAC X Tip Guard and you could use Graco FF LP Tips.. these will atomise fine finish materials at lower pressure 👍 ..Hope this helps my friend.. Keep in touch, regards Pete
@@PaintHQ Thanks Pete. I will revisit this message when my brain is in gear as I can’t work out what you mean but thanks any way (just finished a 12 hour shift)🙏🏽
I can't get the filter set undone to change the filter... what am I doing wrong 😢
Hello, I’ll do my best to help.. I’m assuming you’re trying to change the pencil filter in the gun?.. 2 wrenches can help to grip each end of the filter housing.. you’re right it can be tricky, if it’s locked tight, you can’t untwist by hand 👍 let me know how you get on.. regards Pete
`Hi ..can you help me- I have Wagner Control pro 150M .That device does not have the ability to adjust the pressure that's why when I paint doors or windows in a vertical position, there are leaks, tears...I used a 311 .I tried with different density to get a better result, but it was not worth it
.Would it be better with 208?Or to buy a wagner 250? Thanks
Hello buddy, I’m happy to help if I can.. your thinking is spot on.. whilst pressure control and even a pressure gauge is very important, the pressure setting doesn’t directly control the flow, the tip orifice size does.. so your logic to use a 208 would certainly be less flow.. that’s only if the paint can go through a .008, and the 150M has .008 tip support.. if the paint you’re using is also for brush and roller, I’d go for a .010 (but that’s not much less than the .011 that you’ve used).. but another thing you can do is spread the paint over a wider fan, so a 410 would give a thinner coating Vs a 311, but the compromise is the 8” fan, that’s quite wide, but could be useful on doors.. hope that makes sense.. a 250M is an upgrade, still a DIY unit, you have pressure settings (1-5), so not a true control of the pressure, and still no pressure gauge.. a Graco GXFF (GX19) would meet your needs and more, but it’s a bit more of an I investment.. hope this helps, keep in touch my friend, would love to hear how you get on.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ thank you very much. I will report what I did..
@@PaintHQ Pete, sorry, but one more question-I'm limited by budget
,the device would only be used for doors and windows in a vertical position
-is it the best option
Graco TrueCoat 360 Variable Speed,?greeting
..thanks
Happy to help all I can.. I hear what you’re saying and can appreciate your budget 👍 ..I’m not familiar with the TrueCoat 360.. I know it’s part of the Magnum range, it’s only recently been available in the UK.. being similar in technology to the Ultra Handhelds but not in a professional capacity, it’s hard for me to say if you would get the same ‘fine’ finish.. I do advise to invest in the best you can afford to get the best spraying experience, but I do appreciate you have a budget. Is it possible to look into a ‘used’ / refurbed ‘professional’ unit ?.. apologies that I’m unable to give you a definitive answer.. please keep in touch, world love to hear what you decide 💙 regards Pete
@@PaintHQ thanks Pete ...I really appreciate your help and advice
Airless Discounter site from Germany I think says the tradetip 3 7/8 won’t fit Wagner 250m ?
Hey buddy.. I can confirm the gun that comes with the 250M has a standard tip guard thread size 7/8”.. (the hose fittings are proprietary, along with the ControlPro tips).. so if you would like to use HEA ProTip / or Fine Finish (Purple) tips, you would need to use TradeTip 3 Tip Guard 7/8”.. if I recall I demo the 250M gun and the ability to use QTech QuickConnect fittings with the 7/8” QuickConnect adaptor in this video..
Airless Spray Gun Extensions | QTech QuickConnect
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I recommend purchasing from here..
Wagner TradeTip 3 Tip Guard 7/8”
www.sprayman.co.uk/product/wagner-guard-tradetip-3-tip-holder-7-8/
Wagner TradeTip 3 Fine Finish 208
www.sprayman.co.uk/product/wagner-tradetip-3-fine-finish-airless-spray-tip/
Are you in the UK?.. SpraymanUK also ship to Europe.. here’s the contact details.. SpraymanUK +44 1543 496 289 ..Ask to speak to Mike, he’s super knowledgeable and friendly 🙏👍😆
Ok great tradetip 3. But do I need quickconnect to fit ? I’m from Sweden. Thanks buddy I’m new for this hobby 😁
Great to hear from you in Sweden 🇸🇪😆 ..No, the QuickConnect is purely an additional / optional accessory.. you just need the TradeTip 3 7/8” tip guard 👍😆
@@PaintHQ hehe ok great 👍 thanks again
You’re very welcome anytime 🙏
Can you spray upvc windows with that
Hi Steven, that’s a very good question.. I’d recommend a HVLP (Airspray Compressor or HVLP Turbine) for spraying uPVC.. whilst you can get fine atomisation with fine finish airless tips, you don’t have the control that you get with HVLP.. With a good HVLP setup you can control the fluid flow and fan width, which is an advantage when spraying UPVC and the typically low viscosity products.. hope this helps my friend, keep in touch.. regards Pete
Can you put me in the right direction
Hi Steven, apologies for not getting back to you sooner.. my preference for spraying uPVC is a HVLP / Airspray setup with a remote pressure pot.. take a look at this video, in the video description is details of the setup I use and contact details for SpraymanUK.
ua-cam.com/video/Awuc1q4bPQQ/v-deo.html
..If you was to give SpraymanUK a call and speak to Mike, he'll point you in the right direction.. he's a knowledgeable friendly guy and won't pressure you into.a sale.. keep in touch my friend, I'm more than happy to help you all I can.. I'll always get back to you.. regards Pete
Hello can i use nitro paint with tiner ?
Yes this sprayer can spray solvent / oil based paints 👍 ..hope this answers your question my friend.. regards Pete
no, you can not
This device has rubber seals, not Teflon, and solvents must not be used.
So you never bother to oil the sprayer before during or after? Duh
I hear your point and very valid when using professional airless units, where the piston can be lubricated prior to spraying.. however this is DIY unit with an encased pump.. the only possibility is to use a multi purpose / household oil in the Inlet valve, but only after cleaning, when putting the unit into storage.. appreciate your input my friend, regards Pete
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ME HAN PEDIDO 170€POR REPARARLA.
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Hello Pete 😁 Can I use guard tip and tips from graco with this wagner? Or just wagner tips and Guard? The second question is, do you always have to dilute the paint with 10% water for this Wagner? I want to use this Wagner wood water base primer and waterbase leyland eggshell 10L. Best regards Sebastian 😉
Hi Sebastian, great to hear from you buddy.. yes the standard 7/8” Graco RAC X Tip Guard will fit 👍 ..and then you can use Graco FFLP and LP tips 👍 Typically you don’t need to thin material when airless spraying, but easing flow max 10% can help - and would be especially useful when using this small CobtrolPro pump 👍 ..my advise is to try un-thinned, then you can always add a little water 👍 Hope this helps, regards Pete
@@PaintHQ Thank you Pete for your answer 😁 You have a lot of experience, so I'll ask you one more thing 😉 I have to paint 21 sides solid oak wood , which will be the best undercoat, water base or shellac? Is it irrelevant? 😉 Zinsser Bin or Fleetwood Terminator etc.? 😉
Hi Sebastian.. a shellac base is very good at ‘stain blocking’ and holding back the tannins in wood - which could happen with oak.. but you will need Methylated spirits / denatured alcohol to clean - if that’s your preferred primer, that’s ok 👍 ..I tend to use a WB stain blocking primer, such as AkzoNobel WP198 ..
holmanpaints.co.uk/exterior-wood/286-1368-sikkens-rubbol-wp198-high-build-stain-blocking-primer.html#/1873-size-5l
..Sprays very nicely through .008 tips and cleanup is with water 👍 ..If you’re interesting using Holman Paints, you can use discount code “PAINTHQ” online when checking out 👍 let me know how your project goes my friend 🙏 regards Pete
@@PaintHQ Thank you Pete, That's exactly what it's about solid oak wood, but they're lacquered, I think it's soft, Sheen, clear varnish, and so are the skirting boards and frames around the doors. Does the varnish have to be peeled off or is it enough to sand it with sandpaper? As for the shellac I can only use the wagner flexio 595 hvlp because it is the only one that is suitable, my little graco ultra and wagner control pro 250m only for water base, this primer what you recommend to me I don't know if it is available in Ireland 🤔
hi again, great video and wonder if you can help? we have been using the control pro 515 tips, great for most things and recently bought the Wagner HEA ProTip 515 and it doesn't fit the guard on this machine, do we need the TradeTip 3 Guard? The differences are the tips we use at the moment have a sort of hexagonal top whereas the new HEA ProTip 515 has the rounded plastic top like the ones in the video. Will getting the Wagner Tradetip 3 Guard solve this ?
Any help you can give would really be appreciated as its frustrating the amount of bad advice out there. Finally, love the channel and videos, 5 stars to you mate !!
Hey buddy, great to hear from you.. you’re absolutely spot on, you’ll need the Wagner TradeTip 3 Tip Guard 7/8” to take the ‘professional’ tips.. rounded in appearance as you describe.. here’s a link, so you’ll see exactly what I mean.. also important that it’s the 7/8” screw fitting..
www.sprayman.co.uk/product/wagner-guard-tradetip-3-tip-holder-7-8/
Thanks for the kind words and supporting the channel, it’s very much appreciated.. regards Pete
@@PaintHQ Thats awesome and really helpful and thanks for the speedy response, ordering one now !
Thats awesome and really helpful and thanks for the speedy response, ordering one now !
Ah glad I could help.. you’re welcome anytime 🙏
Ah glad I could help.. you’re welcome anytime 🙏