HP REVERB G2 VS. VALVE INDEX - 2 Best VR Headsets Compared! Which One Should You Buy?
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- The Valve Index and the HP Reverb G2 are the two best VR headsets at the moment. The big question of course now, which one should you buy? The Index or the G2? In this video I am comparing the two headsets and tell you about the differences so you can make an educated purchasing decision.
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00:00 Intro
01:17 Price
02:34 Tracking
04:48 Controllers
08:31 Comfort
09:34 Audio
10:49 Visuals
14:45 Conclusion
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So which headset are you gonna get??? Do you have any more questions??
When does the g2 arrive if you preorder it
When Microsoft flight sim get HP VR support I am hoping you will make a video on it. I am hoping it will be an incredible experience (especially when military jets get added)
@@noahhoop4747 the websites say October 1st
G2 has114°. FOV?
Anyone know a good way to get the Valve Index for someone in a country they don't sell to?
Anything that doesn't require a facebook account is a plus in my book.
Too true; I have been window shopping Oculus for a long time... not anymore!
I got my Oculus Quest about 2 months ago. Guess what I'll be selling in the near future 😁
@Han Lockhart me too, any conclussion?
Han Lockhart i am going for the G2. The price is good considering the quality and as a bonus, no facebook required 😂😂
@Han Lockhart same here. I am leaning towards the Index, but I don't know if the extra dollars are justified over the G2. I am planning to use for FS2020.
Valve index with G2 lenses...that’s what I really want
You seem to have a video for literally EVERY possible VR question I have. Thank you, man.
You are welcome!
Thank you a lot! Finally pre-ordered the G2. Moving from Odyssey Plus. After all picture clarity is the main advantage for me. Playing almost only Elite Dangerous and waiting for MSFS 2020 in VR.
Holy shit dude, you absolutely killed that review! Thank you very much. I like how you keep it short and on point but if someone wants to get more into a category he can just watch another video of you. Keep it going!
"What is more important to you?" Answer: Not being forced to have a Facebook account to use VR, period.
Don't you need a Microsoft account for this? They also steal data and sell it...
@@iamv0id202 Microsoft are not likely to terminate your account and not give a reason or an appeal, unlike Facebook. There are many accounts of people losing their real name Facebook accounts and not ever being given a reason why. So having a lot of games and using VR a lot in your life it is just too much of a risk to go with Facebook.
@@iamv0id202 All of them sell your data, but Facebook is by far the worse. It's also such a creepy place. Pretty much everything you do gives out a notification to all your friends, and disabling this is either made more difficult than it needs to be or it's just impossible in some cases. I'm also not fond of being forced to use my real name and not being given any other choice. At least other services like Steam, Origin, Epic games etc... don't do this
@@tabushka292 Yep, every company sucks in terms of privacy. People just need to be aware it's not just facebook, although it's the worst as you said. Best reason to advocate for open source.
Definitely selling my Rift S in order to grab another headset. Facebook can suck it, lol.
Thank you sir ! I feel totally confident in having placed my pre-order for the G2, after watching this and your other reviews of this stunning equipment. I am moving up from the Rift CV1 😊👍
Thank you for this video! (Y)
Maybe I missed that information somewhere in the video but, what about IPD adjustment for both headset?
Exactly the information I was looking for, thanks!
Really well done review! I already have the valve index but watching this helped me understand that just became the index is more expensive it isn’t the best at everything! Thanks for the video!
very helpful
the godrays are my nemesis
wasn't sure about the g2 audio
now I know the audio is equal
thx!
Finally a more thorough and honest comparison between the G2 and Index! Even the subjective statement of the G2's narrower FOV was very helpful. I was now able to make my decision: G2 it is and if the controllers start to annoy me, I'll simply upgrade them to the Index' which should put me at the Index' price BUT with all-round better graphics :)
Thanks MRTV!
Thanks for another great video. Does anyone sell the VR posters behind you or did you make them?
Great video. I’m replacing my original Rift CV1 and I was thinking of getting the index but I’m going with the Reverb 2 instead.
You will love it!
@@mixedrealityTV Do you have any idea how well the G2 will fit when wearing glasses? I need them in order to see.
really looking forward to a headset with high frames, haven't been able to get an index as the wait times seem quite long
Super helpful and well put together comparison! 👏✌️
Just pulled the trigger on the G2 to add to my motion sim racing platform. Haven't used VR since the original release of the Vive, combined that with a motion platform, I'm sure it's going to be mind blowing. I'm working out now my plans for the motion compensation needed.
Great video. I was on the fence but this comparison sold the G2 as what I'm going for.
Hey Sebastian, i would like to know if the G2 in half resolution still looks better than the odyssey +
Having a light HMD matters a lot. Long gameplay or sweating
What is HMD
@@mxlted6996 head mounted display
Don't forget you can get a chilldex to plug into that slot on the Index
I learned this from the Quest, mine is weighing a good 5-6 lbs with all the frankenquest mods to make it comfortable. Every time I go back to my barebones rift it feels so great.
@@UNSCPILOT Just got my chilldex today, man it totally makes a huge difference. really should come with fans in there to start, beat saber is unplayable after a few hard songs lol.
Very good Vr channel, the question is which configuration is needed to play for example FSI with hp reverb G2 ?
Hi Sebastian. Your vids are great and get across the headsets clearly. I am on a limited budget. I got the odyssey plus. I have a risen 3900x and Asus 2070s dual fan GPU. I'm happy with the graphics but don't know of a way to watch vids in full screen. (I use the app 'bigscreen' but that shows the movie in a theater environment.
My question is, is the video resolution like watching a movie or digital content worth making the switch? Or would you wait until the next iteration of vr? I appreciate your response when you get a chance. I have tried no other headset to compare the odyssey plus to.
You really made it easy for me to choose G2, thanks so much mate
Great comparison...you earned a big like....thanks a lot
Great overview, thank you!
This definitely was an informative video. Just based on your opinion, my family we just have been playing games like Beatsaber or Rec Room, and not really anything super elaborate. Would the G2 be a better buy for the price and then eventually look at buying the light houses and knuckle controllers in the future if that was something we wanted?
omg thankyou, good video and info. found it hard finding a decent video with the information I wanted. looking for a vr headset for VR racing and flight sim and the light boxs are a big turn off as I only really need it for coppit work, and want hight detail. the next question will be the reverb or the vice pro.
Hi Sebastian, how are you ? hope you have Fun with your "new G2 toy" :-).
i have 2 qutions:
1. can you check the G2 with full resolution on the min GPU cards that supported them like RTX-2060SUPER ? how the games run on it ? games like alyx and project cars and other ...
2. did you got an answer from HP about the ability to connect your own headphones ?
thank you
Thanks for the video!
Excellent comparison. Thank you!
I have a couple of questions. I know you made a video on the index controllers with the g2, but you never mentioned it in this video so I was wondering if you can still use that method. Another thing is I really like the resolution of the g2 and think that I would use the index controllers with it but would you recommend just buying and index or do you think the other choice is better?
Just got an Artisan and absolutely love it. Best experince i've had in VR so far. Can't wait to compare it to the G2.
Oh I must say I am also a fan of the Artisan. But the G2 blows it away. :)
@@mixedrealityTV Pre-order it based on your recommendation. Can't wait to compare them, I sim race so the fov and Frame rate have been a major upgrade from what I'm used to.
@@mixedrealityTV Nice reply, now you only need to use virtual desktop and I might buy it.
Happy with my Index. You honestly can't go wrong, but tracking, fov and refresh rate means a lot to me as it is one of the most important parts of the VR illusion. Would love to see the next iteration to have the benefits of both.
I wouldn't argue with the screens being a little sharper but honestly I already need a new graphics card to push the index. The FOV really helps too. If I adjust the lenses to be farther away the tunnel vision thing really bothers me.
@@DrewGlenzer Whats your current graphics card? Will my RTX 2080 be able to run the G2 well?
@@ziinx5899 Vega 56. Your 2080 will be just fine. I'm looking to go 3080/6800xt next so I shouldn't have to upgrade again til it's new pc time.
@@DrewGlenzer Yeah ill probably be getting a 3080 in a year or two, just want to make sure that ill be able to run it before then.
Thank you again sir! 😎
thanks! Great info and very good video! 👍
I have the index, and it was hard to set up, how is the g2 for ease of setup? I've heard it's not that easy as well(only once). I''m really interested in purchasing it. Thx for the vid!
Love your videos! pre ordered the G2.
I don’t see the link you said you’d post about how to pair the tracking of the Vive contróleles with the G2 reverb
I already ordered the index im hyped for it to come
Question on the finger tracking. Im looking for a VR headset for flight sims like dcs, MSFS 2020, etc. Do you think finger tracking is ever going to be a thing for flight sims in the future, or is it already a feature for the index? I imagine that would be huge if it was implemented. As of now I'm looking at the G2 for the higher pixel count as that will be nice for reading instruments. Thanks for any additional info!
Hi, I'm new in your Channel. What do you think is better for using photorealistic VR walkthroughs - Quest 2 or Reverb G2?
Great comparison, you did answer most of my questions about those headsets :)
However, there is one that I'm very curious about.
What graphics card do you need to run for ex. Half Life Alyx on 90fps with the G2. I mean.. it's basically 4k but in vr, and it's already hard to run 4k on pc with high refresh rate.
I'm using rtx 2080 btw
thumbs up for marking the parts of the video
:D with every your video I cant wait to get my preoder of G2 and replace my Valve Index :D
G2 is an instant buy for me once its available in my country, glad i waited to get into VR, I didn't buy last get because of the screen door affect
I would still go for the Index since for me good hand tracking and PC connection are a must but I'm happy the competition is increasing. It's proof of a growing market and it means that it'll only get better from now on. So me personally, I'll be waiting for the new Valve headset to come out hopefully one that includes limb and facial expression tracking as well as a better overall feature set.
You can use index controllers with the h2 for a good setup
I'm kind of new to VR, how would this work? Like having different controllers with a different headset
Great review!! Best regards from Denmark!
How is the new G2 vs Rift S in FOV and tracking? Also do we have performance tests with the G2? I feel like it would struggle on even the most powerful PC's...
I have a 2080Ti and am sceptical.
Could you please do a quick through the lens comparison in a VERY dark scene between these two headsets? Like caves in Skyrim, a horror game, Saints and Sinners catacombs, The Forest at night time, Organ Quarter, Westworld, Five Nights at Freddies, anything like that? I love my Index but I can't play any of my horror games because it is so gray. If the blacks are BIG step up on the G2, I will get it, but if it is only a mild improvement, then I will pass. Thank you!
Could you compare the reverb g2 to the OG wmr headsets I would love to see that. And if you could to a test with the new controllers working with the old wmr headsets.
Just going to check if you have tried using boosters for the controller (for long fingers) or rerouted the elastic (for a wide palm) to improve the ergonomics of the Index controllers? For me they were quite uncomfortable indeed before these changes.
Thanks so much for your content, man!
Hey MRTV, I really wanna know if HTC Vive tracking works with the HP Reverb G2
Can you show a through the lens comparison with G2 full resolution at 100% SS compared to the Valve Index at 90hz with 200% SS. I am really interested in the G2 but I want to see how much difference you can see between the two HMDs with those settings.
The tracking system, FOV and the pads seem really great on the Valve Index but the resolution is better on the G2. That makes me hesitate a lot.
Is the valve index resolution good enough to clearly see texts ans watch movies?
I also want to use a VR headset to play games and i still don't what VR kit to buy after this very good review.. 😟
Thanks Sebastian for another great comparison; defenitely helpful for me. Maybe also worth mentioning is that the G2 will also be the first VR headset supported in Flight Simulator 2020, could be a decision maker for some people ;)
Greetings from The Netherlands!
Good luck running 4K in MSFS with reasonable quality (high or ultra).
@@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo luck isn't a factor. If he has a 2080ti that is. Plenty of people have one so I'm not sure the purpose of your response. Plus the 30 series is on its way sooo... again not sure what the purpose of your response was.
@@ChristianNorthernNJ My purpose? Just a warning.
I have the Valve Index and absolutely love it. I upgraded to it from the HTC Vive. The controllers are amazing and provide an amazing gaming experience especially for shooters. The visuals step up from the vive is amazing, can read text clearly now. The comfort with valve headset and controllers are 10/10. Just my opinion!
Compared to the OG Vive it is definitely a huge step up! However, compared to the G2, which this video is about it’s really up to what you prefer; resolution vs refresh rate.
@@sto_yt and also fov - the index has better fov
@@sto_yt well I play at 90 fps anyway
Hello, I noticed something, but maybe I was wrong. Did you say that you can use the Valve base stations to connect to the HP Reverb? I am asking because I could buy separately base stations, and the Reverb, so I will have a Valve Index functionality with a HP G2 image quality...? Plus: which one would you recommend for MS FS2020 flight simulator (I know it does not fully support VR yet)? Thanks.
I feel like it would be interesting if an inside out tracking headset was compatible with base station use combined with the inside out some kind of hybrid superior tracking but when you take the headset to say a friends house, works perfectly with inside out only tracking or base station only tracking
I was wishing for the with the Rift S! Sadly, we didn't get that option.
Was the refresh rate difference noticeable when gaming? Also do you have any word on when valve might make the second version of its headset?
You truly deserve my like 👍
Great comparison, love the timestamps. Thank you for helping me decide!! It’s my first headset and I had a 500€ budget, but I think I can make and exception and buy the G2 :)
But I’m sad I have to wait till October ;(
How does the sweet spot compare between the 2? The sweet spot is very small on the valve index and hard to get just right on the Index for many people, is it bigger/less fussy on the g2?
I have a quest 2, getting a job this summer and buying a PC rig, can't wait to play PC VR and maybe get a Reverb later on in the year!
Hi Sebastian, in your opinion, is HP G2 or Valve better for simdriving?
I have an original htc vive, never really used it very much. Thinking of selling it, resolution is very low and not many high quality apps or games available for it (back in 2015).
I'm now considering getting a new headset as long as it will be a significant upgrade in some way and feel more immersive. Im considering either getting Reverb G2, valve index (headset only) or mayybe Pimax 8k (I've heard bad stories about it but field of view looks great)
Anyway, what would you guys recommend? If I wasnt blown away by my OG Vive, do you think I'll enjoy getting a more current gen headset? Is the current gen "that" much better?
Kind of want VR but worried I will hardly use it and waste a lot of money like I did with the vive. Maybe there are a lot more games and support out now. Back then, the vive felt like a beta
can you do a productivity desktop simulator video of the g2? aka software defaunlt, for desktop use. compare to oculus'
I'm a CV1 owner and have been waiting for a true "Next Gen" headset before upgrading. I'm surprised at how many new headsets have been released since the original Vive/CV1. That alone would suggest how strong or potentially viable the VR market is or is perceived to be by manufacturers. VR seems to be advancing at a quick pace with multiple revisions with new and novel features being added and dropped with every version update and new model released by manufacturers, deciding to wade in with their idea of what VR is lacking.
"Next Gen" has to be more than new features, it has to include price reduction due to matured technology and perfected setup as well as improved resolution in tracking and visuals with simplified setup. The Rift S and Quest proved that Microsoft was on the right track with simplified tracking moved to the headset and the HP G2 is looking like that technology advanced if not perfected. I pre ordered it. Can't wait to land on a planet in Elite Dangerous with this resolution.
I also want to see Valve adapt their knuckles controller for universal compatibility, without lighthouses if/when possible. But i'll buy the Knuckles with light houses around the holidays for $300 if they can make that compatibility work out of the box with reasonable setup. Not spending $500 for a hacked option that gets it done, though that (previous MRTV video on connecting these to G2) is encouraging. Makes me feel like Valve is on the verge of becoming the VR king maker instead of just the luxury option. Was this Valves plan all along? Gabe?...Gaaabe?
I mean, Valve was the company that made the PC the gaming platform that it is today, so if VR is their second hit, they wouldn't be the worst leader.
@@FunFreakeyy I totally agree. I would love to see Valve become the official place for all things VR..
Half Life Alex is the best example to show that Valve has an actual plan to build out an open VR platform for games and the Index as an example of the extreme possibility at the high end of the consumer scale. I wouldn't' have expected the cheaper, more mature option (G2) this soon. I wonder how deep the partnership between Microsoft and Valve is at the moment and how many more G2's are on the horizon? I can't imagine Samsung is sitting out this round.
Except for GamePass on PC, it's starting to feel like MS is now fully embracing Steam as the primary platform for gaming on PC. Add that to the nice things Gabe has said about MS and Windows 10 during the announcement of cross multiplayer between Steam and Windows Store/GamePass and MS games on Steam. There could be more to this relationship than has been officially announced to date.
Don't forget that Microsoft has some of the biggest PC hardware companies waiting by the phone for a call regarding a new DX or Windows capability. Imagine the possibilities if these 2 actually partnered on something. What if MS finally and fully embraced Steam as their default marketplace for PC gaming and dropped the Windows store all together. This would be a massive advantage for both parties.
I wouldn't say VR is going at a fast pace. I have the very first Oculus and I would agree when it comes to visuals it is improving but can't see the new headset being same as 4k monitor. The other thing holding headsets back is movement, not everyone can run around and teleport is just not realistic. I know right now they are testing mind control for movement and until that is fully implemented you won't get VR moving much more. I would like to see how the new headset looks in Microsoft Flight Sim though, should work great for that.
@@Danny_UK Yeah, it seems like screen resolution is the trickiest thing to improve. Especially when you look at the wireless headsets, that's a lot of data to transmit wirelessly. I also can't handle "natural" movement in games and rely on the teleport option except for Ellite Dangerous. I don't know what it is about that game, maybe it's the cockpit in 3D but it's the only one that doesn't make me nauseous with 6dof, real time movement. Going to try Flight Simulator on the G2 when the pre orders start shipping.
@@Danny_UK But I don't think mind control is the solution that will finally launch VR. Before the duel stick controller was rolled out by sony, there was 20 years of games that were enjoyed by billions of people. New and novel control options will come. I don't mind the teleport option but I prefer the zoom out to 3rd person more. Look at From other Suns, that game is amazing and allows for all 3 options. As long as it's coop multiplayer or single player, it's still fun.
They should produce helmets with 360 camera, planty space for accu and even as cellphone function with headup display. And by the way thanks for your excellent reviews ❤️
Thanks for the videos and in-depth reviews you do. I am replacing my Index with the G2, but will the half resolution mode be better than my comfort-modded Odyssey+ for use with my laptop, or would I be better keeping that as well? I have, seen on your other video the performance difference is negligible, but what about visuals... Half resolution G2 vs Odyssey+? Thanks again.
It's still a shame I can't get the index in Australia, but I can't wait to get myself the Reverb G2 for christmas!
When they shipping? I'm ready to start using mine. I pre ordered back on 6/2
I'm upgrading from the original rift.
System Active (the UK distributor) sent emails out this week stating that they would be shipping worldwide in October. Doesn't sound like pre-orders will get get them any earlier.
From the email:
"Again, thank you for pre-ordering the HP Reverb G2. We have been informed by HP that shipments will take place in October. The demand worldwide has been extremely high, so there has been an impact on production, and it will be shipped at that time for all regions across the world"
I ordered mine from a local dealer (Norway) and they said it should be available on the 12th of October
@@heno02 You guys comments did not age to well.
@@stuart3712 Do you think they will come out before Christmas?
Thanks this was really useful. I think I’ll pick up a g2 with the knowledge that I can always upgrade the controllers later.
I’m really curious with the frame rates though. I don’t have a VR headset atm but I play on a high refresh rate monitor (165Hz) and there I really notice a low frame rate sucks but I wonder if it’s more or less noticeable in VR?
My two cents, sorry for the essay.
Its very noticeable in VR. So much so that inner ear and stomach nausea drop off instantly with higher refresh rates. I would sacrifice some fidelity for the big bump in HZ, FOV and tracking. visuals come in last place in terms of priority.
For reference, I have owned the Cv1 ,Cv2. Ive also borrowed the quest 1 and original htc vive for long periods in 2019 (work and play reasons). Once the aww inspiring novelty of being in VR wears off, those three points i mentioned become the biggest issues of VR in general. Screen door effect never bothered me much and in fast paced games the colours on screen change so often that the godray issue some find issue with falls by the wayside quickly. Index is undisputed in my opinion. Inside out tracking just cant compete. I further use VR for 3d modelling in Maya and Blender so i will admit i might have bias there but for just gaming I would still suggest the Index. For movies the g2 may win but if people are buying a headset just for that benefit i would just get a projector and enjoy home cinema in a shared room. To each their own though and really, welcome to VR man its a total blast!!!
@@Prox_C thanks for the reply Chris! That’s interesting 🤔. My use case would probably mostly be for space/flight sim game with the occasional out and out VR experience being an occasional use (at least currently that’s what I think). So I’m less worried about the controller tracking atm. But I can still imagine nausea being a thing with games like elite dangerous or Star Wars squadrons. Have you played much of these kinds of titles?
Thank you, great content sir 🎧🤩👍
Thanks to you I've preordered G2!
Beat sabre gets very frustrating once you get to higher levels with sub par tracking - definitely the case with the Quest
I have only had my rift S for about two months and I have a ton of display problems, mostly with clarity and my IPD which is quite low, and I feel like it might be worth the extra 200 or so dollars turn upgrade to the G2. Is there anything that the Rift S is better? The G2 controllers look more appealing to me and I am getting a new computer soon so I could handle the graphics.
whats better for racing/driving simulation games? . I am leaning to HP for the price . How about the delay/lag between them?
It is now Oct 2022. I know both headsets are very good, but for my VR gaming needs which is SIM racing, the HP Reverb G2 V2 is adequate enough because of mainly Head Tracking while racing. I have the HP Reverb G2 V2 headset.
There is now with the newer HP G2 just one CON I have which is the small Sweet Spot making the outer boundaries of the lenses blurry. Long as I look ahead with my eyes, the graphics is clear, but moving just my eyes to the side or up and down, the graphics in the lenses become blurry. And this is with the plastic insert taken out to get eyes closer to the lenses.
Thanks for the older review of the 2 headsets. Take care.
If you're doing only sim racing, G2 def the pick. Great visuals, okay tracking. Works best with a wheel, anything else Index does win.
Pls do comparison pimax 8kx with g2. Who has better vision?x
Is there anyway to make this wireless such as the Vive? If it’s not possible for wireless how long is the cord and can you get a long extension? Also lot’s of people are asking about how movies are with this and I also want to know if you would be able to use this for movies in a recliner or lying on your back??
So, will the clarity of the G2 or the faster refresh rate of the Index be better for eliminating VR Sickness?
If you set up the G2 with Base Stations & Valve Controllers is it still possible to use it well in low/poor lighting conditions?
The echo in that room is incredible when you think about all the sound proofing.
Yep, this has been worked on in the meantime!
Can you use the g2 headset with the steam controllers and/or Lighthouse tracking?
Nice comparison, although your inclination towards the G2 was rather clear xD
Thank you for a very informational video. After this review and the controller tutorial, I'm really starting to doubt my choice for the Valve index VR. I ordered the full kit and it will arrive today, but I am tempted to go for the Reverb now instead.
However, I do like the index controllers more. It looks like you can buy the controllers seperate, but this seems relatively expensive (And you would still need the base station). Is there another way to get them? Because at this moment, it seems the smartest thing to keep the Valve Index FK, en just swap out the headset when the G2 releases. This seems to be a rediculous thing to do though. And possibly impossible to sell the index headset seperately.
You can use the Valve Index controllers but you still need the base for tracking
Any update?
Is it possible to pair the g2 headset with valve controllers and base stations? If i understood correctly that would be the best of both worlds, right?
What is the ipd on the g2 ? Would love to get a new headset but my ipd is 75.5 i used psvr it’s probably around 68 and was terrible now using a vive pro and managed to get it to 75.4 everything looks so much better .
How is the tracking working of the HP in front of a monitor 32:9 monitor for simracing? currently I have the valve index with one base station in front of my head. But anyway, a smaller fov isn't an option for me because it is still quite narrow on the valve index
my main reason i prefer outside tracking is aiming down sights.
i like to rest one controller on my hmd for better stability, with insight out tracking i have to "hover" my controller and it is harder to keep a good sight picture
How well does HP Reverb G2 work, with Vive Full Body Tracking?
you would need to purchase base stations which are low in stock so usually $150 for the 2.0 and about the same for the 1.0 as nobody really sells them to my knowledge
No
If you have lighthouse base stations they should work fine just like the Index controllers can once you set it up. As Sebastian said, he had a video on how to set it up.
I recently pre-ordered the Reverb G2. Should be phenomenal with Sim games. I also have the Index so don't really have to make a choice between the two.
@@RojasTKD7 what a high baller 😂
Hallo Sébastien, danke für deine Arbeit. Es wäre schön, einen Test des HP Reverb G2 beim Betrachten von 3D-Filmen durchzuführen. Vergleichen Sie die Qualität mit den Rift s, zum Beispiel danke
I'm so conflicted between those two. I want the lighthouse tracking for accuracy, and I really love the Index controllers. On the other hand, I'm very sensitive with nausea so i'd love to have the higher res of the G2, but also the higher refresh rate of the Index (normal monitor use I cant really go with anything under ~100hz without my eyes starting to hurt after like an hour). The price doesnt matter too much to me, but still - really difficult decision
Also - do you know if the G2 also works perfectly fine under Linux?
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure you require the windows software to run the headset, so I'm not sure how it would run if you were to use a VM or another similar method to run that software.
The G2 is a Windows Mixed Reality headset. Just go with the Index, it'll be less headache in the long term. I wouldn't expect Microsoft to provide any sort of support when it comes to running their flagship hardware on Linux.
@Han Lockhart Nah it's just time and resources. Everyone's trying to figure out their ONE differentiator, and then there's the matter of different tastes/use cases.
Outside tracking is objectively better on paper but inside out just works and it's portable. WMR just works. I got all of my friends into VR and they all have their own headsets because I brought my WMR headset to one of their houses and let them have at it. WMR headsets are the perfect headsets for a VR evangelist to have in the toolkit. They're portable and they just work.
fuckin rich lol
if you have an existing vive (original or vive pro) you can use your existing base stations and controllers and purchase just the index HMD for around £449. So, in that case that would be a cheaper option than buying the G2. So I think the price difference is not that much for a lot of people. Sure, if you want knuckles controllers and dont have existing base stations then the index will cost you £919. But a lot of people may be happy to just go for the HMD upgrade if they have an existing vive
Thank you for your video and for your other videos as well.
Question:
to play a game (let's say at 90hz) with this kind of resolution - do I need top of the line video card? or will it work with slower video cards?
(e.g. would 3070 suffice?)
a 3070 is more than enough. it’s about equal to a 2080 ti and i’m running an index with a gtx 1080 and i can play most games at 120 fps with no problem
@@Andrew-uq6vh thank you!
@@Andrew-uq6vh So an RTX 2080 would be fine as well?
Hiya, I do already have the Valve Index, ordered trough pre-order the G2. Would you take the step if you were only doing simracing to goto the G2 and sell the Index? I got the 2080ti currently in my pc, and when the 3090 comes out I will go for that aswell.
Oh you one of those rich folks I c gawd damn
Would be cool if they sold it with a headset only option. I have an index and really like the controllers and tracking.
I’m concerned about the fit. For my Vice the wide facial interface is comfortable. The Index facial interface is noticeably smaller and exerts a mild clamping force on my temples as I fave to force it flat on my face. Is the Reverb g2 any better fit for a user needing a wider facial interface? Thanks.
As a physiotherapist, I am unconvince about Oculus-style controllers being more ergonomic. For short term use, yes, they seem more comfortable as they accomodate the resting anatomical position of the hand, however ergonomy is also about the long term, I have noticed that compared to Valve Index Controllers, they tend to place more strain on the wrist extensors in radial deviation, meaning that they are at greater risk for causing De Quervain syndrome after extended use with games like Beat Saber.
This is mainly due to wrist movements being carried out fast and repeatedly WHILE also gripping the controllers hard (and also the shape of the controller). Because of this, the extensor pollicis brevis and abductor pollicis longus muscles are working in a position where the thumb is too far adducted and thus the tendons are in a stretched position. This problem can therefore partially be mitigated by using the Mamut grips.