Monte Coleman #51 of the Washington Redskins He was drafted in the 11th round and the 279th player selected in the 1979 draft. Played played 16 seasons from 1979-1994 all with the Washington Redskins as a linebacker and special teams player. A key contributor to 3 Super Bowl championship teams and making it to a 4th in a losing effort. His 217 games played is is 2nd most in franchise history
This version of the hogs was fearsome. Lachey, McKenzie, Bostic, Schlereth, and Simmons. And they still had Grimm and Jacoby (one in the HOF and 1 who should be in the HOF) available to come off the bench.
@@dagjo You're right! May had his pro bowl year in 1988 though I think he was banged up quite a bit in 89. And Ray Brown went on to have a 20 year career in the NFL! Gibbs sure knew how to stockpile talented huge O linemen. It's the key to success then and now.
This was the first game after I went to Navy boot camp. The first letter I got from home a couple of weeks later told me the final 38-14 and I was blown away! I’ve looked for this game on YT for years and could never find it, thank you for posting!
Other than 1988, the Bears got dominated by the Redskins from 86 to 91. I mean the Bears won big in 1985 at home, but in 86 and 87 the Redskins won the divisional round against a Bears team that had a better record. The Redskins got it done in the playoffs. The Redskins only loss between that time was in 1988 because in 89 the won there and 90 the won in RFK and in 91 they won at Solder Field.
The thing that amazes me about this game was this loss by the Bears dropped them to 6-6. This was the first time they were at .500 since they finished 8-8 in 1983. This team went almost 6 seasons playing above .500. That is incredible. I wonder if this is a record for ANY sports team, not just in the NFL?
That Bear secondary was pretty deep with Vestee Jackson Donnell Woolford Lemuel Stinson Dave Duerson Shaun Gayle Markus Paul David Tate Maurice Douglass Lorenzo Lynch And the Posse STILL picked them apart. Lol #HTTRedskins
As a chi fan I beg to differ, they were the d’s weakest link, even in the yr before where they were NFC’s #1 seed allowed much vs mn, ne & lar and that’s not even talking about the disastrous playoffs, exposed even further in ‘89 w/ dan Hampton out
Rypien's road to SB 26 MVP began with this game. It kicked off a 5 game win streak, made a Pro Bowl that season, threw well in 1990 in the games he did play, and we all know what happened in 1991
number 59 for the Bears was so impressed with the Redskins he was saying to himself "Someday I'm going to be the head coach of the Washington Redskins!"
As a chi fan it’s driven me nuts how some of ditka’s guys ended up coaching rivals like mn, sf & wsh (when the nyg will be next?), why couldn’t they all be like Jeff fisher and coach an afc team?
As a chi fan I went nuts at this total contrast from the yr before, I hated the loss so much right after I played a game of tecmo (only the original at the time) chi vs wsh
I think it's a joke only one of the Hogs is in the HOF. The most famous O-Line in football. Jacoby getting snub because, they don't wanna mention the word Redskins
That's not the reason but he absolutely should be in the Hall of Fame. Linemen get overlooked. Jerry Kramer from the great 60's Packers teams just got in a couple of years ago, over 40-50 years after his retirement. Expect something similar for Joe. Being a lineman isn't sexy.
100% true. RetroSkins was at the last home game of 94, a 3-13 that lost every home game that season (ugh!) and the stadium was full anyway. People loved being there. Check out the 98 Giants HL posted recently. Seasons isn’t half over but empty seats abound in the background. The Redskins community woven into RFK was lost when they moved. Sad.
Monte Coleman is not a Hall of Fame player. He was an outstanding contributor for the Redskins for almost 15 seasons but he was not even a starter on his own team unless someone was hurt.
@@gerrypeet4861 Actually, he was a starter for a few seasons, particularly in the beginning of his career. He played for 2 seasons under Jack Pardee, (mostly as a starter), then Joe Gibbs took over. I believe that Gibbs, being the brilliant coach he was, decided that he could best utilize Coleman as a 3rd down linebacker because he was so fast and agile that he could cover almost any opposing running back out of the backfield or a tight end. And by using Coleman in that way, he was able to extend his career to a phenomenal 16 seasons. I understand that according to the metrics that the HOF uses, Coleman will never get in. I get it. But when I watch film of the skins from 1979 to 1994, I see number 51on the field for a majority of the defensive snaps. He was a valuable member of 3 super bowl winners. The guy was everywhere, always around the ball, and always making plays. And we shouldn't forget that he was used extensively on special teams and made a ton of tackles covering kicks. Stats don't tell the whole story. In my book, he's HOF.
@@brianstupar7433 So you just said exactly what I said. . He was an outstanding contributor for the Redskins for almost 15 seasons. I don't care about numbers either but he is not a Hall of Famer. He does not compare to Dick Butkis, LT, Ray Lewis. He was a great asset to the team and essential for those Super Bowl runs but he personally could not change a game just by being on the field like LT or a Hall of Famer would. When injured, the Redskins made due without him. Most people never even noticed that he didn't play. He was a great piece of the puzzle that made the team successful but he absolutely was not even close to being a Hall of Famer. It's like talking to a Red Sox fan. They think every one of their players belongs in the Hall of Fame.
@@gerrypeet4861 Hi Gerry. Thanks for responding. I was going to leave it here and agree to disagree, but I realized there are a few more things I want to say. First, I never compared him to LT or Butkus, and it's not really fair to do so. NOBODY compares to LT, and if we say that you're not worthy of consideration unless you impacted a game like LT, then we would never admit another linebacker to the hall again. You claim that the skins 'made due without him.' Of course they did. Every team has backups. Even superstars get injured and good coaches are ready to fill in with quality backups. Richie Petitbon was a brilliant strategist and he knew how to scheme to get the best from his defenses. But to say that the Skins didn't miss his skills in pass coverage is crazy. And no, I'm not like a Red Sox fan- I don't believe every Skin from that era should be in the hall. For example, Russ Grimm is in the hall and I don't think he deserved it (Though I think Jacoby should be in). Grimm had 3 all pro seasons in the mid 80s, but the second half of his career was mostly spent on the bench, usually with injuries but also because he was simply outplayed by younger players like Raleigh McKenzie and Mark Schlereth. But back to the point. Was Coleman JUST a 3rd down linebacker? I'd say it's more accurate to say he was a 'passing down linebacker.' If the opposing offense got negative, or no or little yardage on first down, and Petitbon thought they'd pass on 2nd, he'd send Coleman into the game. Point being, he played a lot of snaps every game. I remember years ago when fans were arguing about whether Steve Tasker should be in Canton. It was pretty evenly divided as I recall, with the 'no's' saying he was 'JUST a special teams player. Period.' Same thing with Ray Guy. Madden lobbied for years to get him into Canton, but too many people said he was 'just a punter.'
@@brianstupar7433 I compared Monte Coleman to LT and Butkis because they are actually in the Hall of Fame. Coleman was not as good as Ray Lewis or Mike Singletary either. Coleman is not as good as Tasker or Ray Guy too. Colemen wasn't even the best special teams player on the Redskins. That goes to Otis Wonsley. Otis Wonsley is not in the Hall of Fame, nor should he go. Wonsley, like Coleman, was an important part of the team and both of them being there made the Redskins better but they are not Hall of Fame material.
Byners career was kinda weird, was up and down in production in Cleveland(I guess he was splitting carries with Kevin Mack) joined the Skins in '89, they started off using him more as a fullback, became the Man in '91 for three years then went back to Cleveland, who turned into the Baltimore Ravens, and ended his career there with mediocre production while playing in all 16 games for the last ten years of his career...
Monk, Clark, Sanders three guys who could catch anything. Man we were spoiled.
I love these old redskins games. They were so good back in the 80’s and most of the 90’s.
They owned the Bears after’85
The Redskins in the 80's were just as relevant as the Celtics, Lakers, Yankees Canadiens etc...
Monte Coleman #51 of the Washington Redskins
He was drafted in the 11th round and the 279th player selected in the 1979 draft. Played played 16 seasons from 1979-1994 all with the Washington Redskins as a linebacker and special teams player. A key contributor to 3 Super Bowl championship teams and making it to a 4th in a losing effort. His 217 games played is is 2nd most in franchise history
Thank you Bobby Beathard!
This version of the hogs was fearsome. Lachey, McKenzie, Bostic, Schlereth, and Simmons. And they still had Grimm and Jacoby (one in the HOF and 1 who should be in the HOF) available to come off the bench.
Mark May and Ray Brown, too! You could make 2 all-pro o-lines with all of those guys available.
@@dagjo You're right! May had his pro bowl year in 1988 though I think he was banged up quite a bit in 89. And Ray Brown went on to have a 20 year career in the NFL! Gibbs sure knew how to stockpile talented huge O linemen. It's the key to success then and now.
Gary Clark needs to be in the Hall Of Fame.
Agree. Agree. Agree!
Absolutely
So does Jacoby
No doubt about it
@@gregharmon3797 No doubt about it
This was the first game after I went to Navy boot camp. The first letter I got from home a couple of weeks later told me the final 38-14 and I was blown away! I’ve looked for this game on YT for years and could never find it, thank you for posting!
Other than 1988, the Bears got dominated by the Redskins from 86 to 91. I mean the Bears won big in 1985 at home, but in 86 and 87 the Redskins won the divisional round against a Bears team that had a better record. The Redskins got it done in the playoffs. The Redskins only loss between that time was in 1988 because in 89 the won there and 90 the won in RFK and in 91 they won at Solder Field.
What I remember about this game was Mike Ditka in the post game going off on his own players........
The successful onside kick by the Redskins was the turning point of this game.
The thing that amazes me about this game was this loss by the Bears dropped them to 6-6. This was the first time they were at .500 since they finished 8-8 in 1983.
This team went almost 6 seasons playing above .500. That is incredible. I wonder if this is a record for ANY sports team, not just in the NFL?
Gary Clark not being in the Hall of Fame is criminal.
Agree!!!!
They were so good it was almost like a cheat code! I miss these days!
You're doing your thing right now RetroSkins! Keep going!
Those were the days.
Dave Duerson had an interception. A few years later, Dave, suffering from brain damage, killed himself.
That Bear secondary was pretty deep with
Vestee Jackson
Donnell Woolford
Lemuel Stinson
Dave Duerson
Shaun Gayle
Markus Paul
David Tate
Maurice Douglass
Lorenzo Lynch
And the Posse STILL picked them apart. Lol #HTTRedskins
As a chi fan I beg to differ, they were the d’s weakest link, even in the yr before where they were NFC’s #1 seed allowed much vs mn, ne & lar and that’s not even talking about the disastrous playoffs, exposed even further in ‘89 w/ dan Hampton out
Rypien's road to SB 26 MVP began with this game.
It kicked off a 5 game win streak, made a Pro Bowl that season, threw well in 1990 in the games he did play, and we all know what happened in 1991
What a performance by the posse on this night.
number 59 for the Bears was so impressed with the Redskins he was saying to himself "Someday I'm going to be the head coach of the Washington Redskins!"
Nice pick-up! Tip of the RetroSkins hat to you, sir!
@@RetroSkins Thanks!
As a chi fan it’s driven me nuts how some of ditka’s guys ended up coaching rivals like mn, sf & wsh (when the nyg will be next?), why couldn’t they all be like Jeff fisher and coach an afc team?
Boy Rypien sure did like to sling it didn’t he. Course he had some dam good receivers
As a chi fan I went nuts at this total contrast from the yr before, I hated the loss so much right after I played a game of tecmo (only the original at the time) chi vs wsh
I think it's a joke only one of the Hogs is in the HOF. The most famous O-Line in football. Jacoby getting snub because, they don't wanna mention the word Redskins
That's not the reason but he absolutely should be in the Hall of Fame. Linemen get overlooked. Jerry Kramer from the great 60's Packers teams just got in a couple of years ago, over 40-50 years after his retirement. Expect something similar for Joe. Being a lineman isn't sexy.
THANK YOU for this upload...and Happy THANKSGIVING!!! Do you have the full game?
Should have kept this stadium kept the atmosphere should have never changed shit
100% true. RetroSkins was at the last home game of 94, a 3-13 that lost every home game that season (ugh!) and the stadium was full anyway. People loved being there.
Check out the 98 Giants HL posted recently. Seasons isn’t half over but empty seats abound in the background. The Redskins community woven into RFK was lost when they moved. Sad.
How did Dent get stuck trying to cover Monk 15 yards downfield?
This is when the Bears starting falling off.
Monk was a Bear killer
Best 10-6 team not to make the playoffs that year
Extremely debatable, I would say gb was actually the best considering its win @sf
@@mesocorny4366 I disagree with both. I say the 1991 49ers or
@adaonetube You’re misunderstanding, just talking about ‘89
I was talking about '89. That Skins team was on a roll at the end of the year that nobody wanted to face in the playoffs
Yes
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Monte Coleman should be in the HOF.
Monte Coleman is not a Hall of Fame player. He was an outstanding contributor for the Redskins for almost 15 seasons but he was not even a starter on his own team unless someone was hurt.
@@gerrypeet4861 Actually, he was a starter for a few seasons, particularly in the beginning of his career. He played for 2 seasons under Jack Pardee, (mostly as a starter), then Joe Gibbs took over. I believe that Gibbs, being the brilliant coach he was, decided that he could best utilize Coleman as a 3rd down linebacker because he was so fast and agile that he could cover almost any opposing running back out of the backfield or a tight end. And by using Coleman in that way, he was able to extend his career to a phenomenal 16 seasons. I understand that according to the metrics that the HOF uses, Coleman will never get in. I get it. But when I watch film of the skins from 1979 to 1994, I see number 51on the field for a majority of the defensive snaps. He was a valuable member of 3 super bowl winners. The guy was everywhere, always around the ball, and always making plays. And we shouldn't forget that he was used extensively on special teams and made a ton of tackles covering kicks. Stats don't tell the whole story. In my book, he's HOF.
@@brianstupar7433 So you just said exactly what I said. . He was an outstanding contributor for the Redskins for almost 15 seasons. I don't care about numbers either but he is not a Hall of Famer. He does not compare to Dick Butkis, LT, Ray Lewis. He was a great asset to the team and essential for those Super Bowl runs but he personally could not change a game just by being on the field like LT or a Hall of Famer would. When injured, the Redskins made due without him. Most people never even noticed that he didn't play. He was a great piece of the puzzle that made the team successful but he absolutely was not even close to being a Hall of Famer. It's like talking to a Red Sox fan. They think every one of their players belongs in the Hall of Fame.
@@gerrypeet4861 Hi Gerry. Thanks for responding. I was going to leave it here and agree to disagree, but I realized there are a few more things I want to say. First, I never compared him to LT or Butkus, and it's not really fair to do so. NOBODY compares to LT, and if we say that you're not worthy of consideration unless you impacted a game like LT, then we would never admit another linebacker to the hall again. You claim that the skins 'made due without him.' Of course they did. Every team has backups. Even superstars get injured and good coaches are ready to fill in with quality backups. Richie Petitbon was a brilliant strategist and he knew how to scheme to get the best from his defenses. But to say that the Skins didn't miss his skills in pass coverage is crazy. And no, I'm not like a Red Sox fan- I don't believe every Skin from that era should be in the hall. For example, Russ Grimm is in the hall and I don't think he deserved it (Though I think Jacoby should be in). Grimm had 3 all pro seasons in the mid 80s, but the second half of his career was mostly spent on the bench, usually with injuries but also because he was simply outplayed by younger players like Raleigh McKenzie and Mark Schlereth. But back to the point. Was Coleman JUST a 3rd down linebacker? I'd say it's more accurate to say he was a 'passing down linebacker.' If the opposing offense got negative, or no or little yardage on first down, and Petitbon thought they'd pass on 2nd, he'd send Coleman into the game. Point being, he played a lot of snaps every game. I remember years ago when fans were arguing about whether Steve Tasker should be in Canton. It was pretty evenly divided as I recall, with the 'no's' saying he was 'JUST a special teams player. Period.' Same thing with Ray Guy. Madden lobbied for years to get him into Canton, but too many people said he was 'just a punter.'
@@brianstupar7433 I compared Monte Coleman to LT and Butkis because they are actually in the Hall of Fame. Coleman was not as good as Ray Lewis or Mike Singletary either. Coleman is not as good as Tasker or Ray Guy too. Colemen wasn't even the best special teams player on the Redskins. That goes to Otis Wonsley. Otis Wonsley is not in the Hall of Fame, nor should he go. Wonsley, like Coleman, was an important part of the team and both of them being there made the Redskins better but they are not Hall of Fame material.
Byners career was kinda weird, was up and down in production in Cleveland(I guess he was splitting carries with Kevin Mack) joined the Skins in '89, they started off using him more as a fullback, became the Man in '91 for three years then went back to Cleveland, who turned into the Baltimore Ravens, and ended his career there with mediocre production while playing in all 16 games for the last ten years of his career...
On another note, how in the hell did Jimmie Johnson end his ten year career with under a thousand yards recieving?? dude had hands...
Injuries messed him up. I remember he was on the 1991 squad...and got replaced by another JJ at tight end....James Jenkins. Even took his #88.
@@zacchaeuswilson6116 Gibbs always got the same kind of players lol, and gave them the same number alot