Absolutely Maidenless: Explaining The Elden Ring Drama
Вставка
- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- If Ubisoft made Elden Ring, Stonesword Keys would be purchasable for $1.99 a pop.
-----
Join the community discord! ► / discord
Watch Us LIVE (And Click Dat Sub Button!) ► / gameboomers
GB Archive Channel ► / gameboomer
Dev Kit Channel ► / @thedevkit
SFO Backups Channel ► / channel
-----
SUPPORT THE SHOW:
BTC:bc1q6udqgvfm9uaj59l24ut7f73wvsfu707kk6pn3m
SubscribeStar! ► www.subscribes...
Streamlabs! ► streamlabs.com...
Patreon! ► / shortfatotaku
Paypal! ► paypal.me/short...
Humble Bundle Affiliate Link! ► www.humblebund...
Amazon CAN Affiliate Link! ► amzn.to/322aFAa
Amazon USA Affiliate Link! ► amzn.to/30PLxgN
Amazon CAN Wishlist! ► www.amazon.ca/...
Amazon USA Wishlist! ► www.amazon.com...
-----
SFO-CIAL MEDIA! HYUK HYUK
DA TWEETS ► / sfosecretary
DA FACES ► / sfotaku
DA GABS ► www.gab.com/sh...
DA MINDS ► www.minds.com/...
DA PARLERS ► parler.com/pro...
DA STEAMS ► steamcommunity....
-----
Credits:
Thumbnail ► / guiltygremlin
Background ► / cryomancerlex
Music ► • Catherine - Also Sprac...
#EldenRing #Battlefield2042 #Gamergate
![Lp. Сердце Вселенной #1 НАЧАЛО ПУТЕШЕСТВИЯ [Новый сезон] • Майнкрафт](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/380Q7gLWGvk/mqdefault.jpg)
lol are all the comments gone?
wait how is this being recommended NOW?
@@UNATCOHanka it was taken down because of some copyright. Now its back
Guess who's back
Typical UA-cam maidenless behavior
This is also an excellent example of how the woke community really hates diversity.
For them, diversity is when everything mixes together and then everything has the same form in everything.
Soulslike games have moved from trolling players to trolling game devs and journos.
I mean teleportation chests are still trolling players
@@sidecharacter7165 Not really its kinda useful
@@sidecharacter7165 nah teleport chest are great. They teleport you into areas that would either be impossible or very hard to reach and allow you to grab a bunch of useful items way earlier than usual. Sure you'll probably die a few times on the way but it's a souls game, everyone dies every five minutes anyways.
I mean, the chests kind of troll you, but why would you not roll away when smoke comes out of a chest? Yes you can roll out of it, if you didn’t know
@@sidecharacter7165 The real troll is the dungeons, they even have one with copies of the same floor and (almost) the same enemies just to mess you up and make you think you bugged out or something, then get even more confused when there's no obvious way to progress through looping those floors.
This just shows most AAA devs suck. Even some Japanese devs, but they never attack the consumer for their failure.
Yeah, there's some small smidgen of traditional Japanese culture that somehow has still survived within Japanese game devs, look at what the devs for Final Fantasy 14 were forced through when they realized they'd done a shite game: publicly humiliate themselves and apologize.
They project their inferiority over us and their competition.
Konami wasn't this stupid despite them tossing their franchise into the pachinko bin.
how dare you not like my game that holds your hand every step of the way
Yeah, instead they just refuse to acknowledge their failure and keep making the same game with the same problems about six dozen times over half as many years.
"Nothing about this feels intentional" is literally one of my absolute favourite part of playing games like Dwarf Fortress. A game can basically be a story generator, isn't that what RimWorld is? Yeah it's a robust game with awesome mechanics, but there's no story. Just infinite potential for your own story to happen
@Goddess Redina Kenshi is my own personal story every time I play it and I love it for that.
for as fervently as the progressives defend and promote the supremacy of highly abstract and frankly shit art in most other fields when it comes to game design they're more rigid and by the numbers than the strictest fine arts snob. It must be so easily understood that you could hand the controller to homo erectus and it could beat the game and so homogenous that your brain doesn't experience wonder or joy but rather melts into a monotonous compulsion to progress along arbitrary tracks and complete pointless missions to raise statistics without caring about any of it. They've made it so that game progression is now closer to being a corporate drone rather than an actual fun adventure. The more prevalent recurring formulaic missions the more this holds true to the point where all ubisoft games seem to be the same game but with a different skin.
@Goddess Redina Kenshi, RimWorld, Dwarf Fortress, Elona, Civilization, so many awesome games
@@sdfabctr I think a lot of this is because they're Film School idiots. I took a film critique class in college and it all makes sense: they're trying to apply film critique to videogames and freedom hurts that. See, one of the core things about film critique is that EVERYTHING on screen is intentional. Even mistakes as they got left in during editing. If it's on screen, it can be criticized and analyzed.
Well that doesn't work for videogames because the player is in control. They can find bugs and unintended actions and sometimes you need to give the player the freedom to do things you don't like. It breaks their entire means of analyzing things so there has been a massive push for more linear games with less freedom out of these sorts of folks because it makes the story's intent clear. What? GAMEPLAY?! Who cares about THAT!
Rimworld is the quintessential "Get good or get dead" game for me.
You're gonna suck your first few times around, but once you get to understanding how the game works it's a barrel of fun watching your enemies flee in terror as your creativity destroys their numbers.
I broke down in hysteric laughter when Plants vs Zombies was mentioned as an example of "border control".
Just let them consume your brains, bigot. Somehow I could see the zombie leader leaving a note that tells you something along those lines before a boss level haha.
This overblown concern about zombies eating brains it's all just zombiphobia.
@@Monsuco You mean Necrophobia
We need to build a wall, preferably out of tallnuts
Well, when you break it down.
They (The leftists) want your space/property invaded. They want you to be overrun by a massive amount of mindless zombies that are hell bound to destroy and consume you.
I guess the only plants versus zombies game they would prefer is if had a sign saying "Zombies welcomed!" and to be sure to open wide and say Yes, ZER can I have another ZER?!
You know to play into their bitch brain, beta boy power fantasies.
I have been working as a Game Designer the last 2 years.
I can confirm that, from their perspective, these game devs are right. Elden Ring does not fit into what they have been tought is a good game design.
After all, they work for companies that can only be described as "Unimaginative", Dogged trend followers", "Religiously adhere to the stale formula" and "Feelings based marketing and design".
When all you have is Ubisoft, everyting looks like a high point to jump from.
That's a problem with having a set formula for everything. You wind up with this sort of tunnel vision and an intense fear of going outside the formula.
I have a question for you Mr. Game Dev; when you're plying your trade, do you look to older titles for inspiration on how to solve problems? I mean in the sense that rather then trying to re-invent the wheel, you simply look at how previous titles tackled a problem and see if you could tweak that to suit your current project?
A lot of modern games have...very poor level design that makes me wonder if something was lost in the transition from 2D to 3D with many games.
Was that last sentence a reference to "Ubisoft Towers?"
@@TwinTails100 i think it was an assassin's creed reference but i could be wrong
They said QUEST design, not GAME design. Can you read?
If they’re only referring to Elden Rings poor quest design then they’re right, it’s garbage.
I like that Miyazaki and From Software are aware of what draws people to their games and refuse to back down to pressure.
And I’m pretty sure after 12 million sales they won’t any time soon
it has been this way since King's Field 1, and Armored Core 1 (which we are getting a new one of), King's Field was the proto-souls game, never really caught on because it was from a then niche company, but they kept at it and blew up with Demon Souls using a slightly altered formula from King's Field.
@@keithfilibeck2390 Actually both are tbh, Dark Souls does have some blood from Armored Core. The Dodging Mechanic is kind of similar to that of the Quick-Boost
Its almost like you get rewarded for putting effort in a game... shocking...
Not really, they're already applying nerfs which means they're listening to ppl bitch
Excuse me, Dev, Ratchet is a Lombax, not a "space rat". I expect an apology, he's saved the Galaxy numerous times and deserves some respect.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 I heard the PS5 game was okay.
The controversy was around rivet not rachet. Ratchet is already a well established character so they couldn't really attack or change him without serious consequences.
@@bloo_dergn they did change Ratchet.
He’s not the same character from the OG a games anymore.
He used to be a self-serving snarky dumbass that just happened to be a good mechanic, now he’s a aspirational good boy who wants to be a hero.
Edit: I don’t care if Ratchet became a good guy after the first/second game. He wasn’t that at the start, and they rewrote the first game to remove that character arc. Lame.
Everyone actually knows it was Agent Clank who did the heavy lifting smh
I haven't played the new games but is rivet female? did they change the lore of only male lombax's have tails?
I love the fact Elden Ring doesn't hold your hand the whole time, being able to discover things yourself and in your own time felt so refreshing and exciting, what could be down that tunnel? what could be over that bridge?
Something I've not really felt since Pilotwings 64. Curiosity and discovery are what the human brain was entirely developed on.
going into the cave in pilotwings 64 with the hover pack and discovering the hidden star
Larry is my favourite boomer gamer
@@TheDolphinTuna I'm Gen X!!!
@@ShortFatOtaku Yeah, just discovering tiny things, you'd never know about if you played the game normally.
San Fransisco Rush on N64 had that a bit for me too! An entire stunt arena hidden in a cave on the side of the cliffs.
@@Larry Everyone older than me is a boomer, everyone younger than me is a zoomer :^)
9:02 So basically, according to *_These_* people; defending yourself from hostile invaders, taking care of yourself against disease and infection, _building a thriving civilization, protecting the weaker and vulnerable among the populace, _*_and keeping everything in balance and harmony_* . . . is bad.
These people are the _actual_ Pestilence of our time.
hey! don't defend your well being thats bad!
Playing A Hat In Time (An indie game) with my brother and finding a giant trans flag plastered onto a wall in this fictional fantasy platformer game took us out of the experience so hard my brother was just like "Imagen playing a Mario game and finding a BLM graffiti on Princesses Peach's castle"
These people can't go a minute without talking about their politics
Aaand that just killed my interest in even trying it.
@@Slender_Man_186 it's not a bad game
especially if you like Mario 64 style games but be prepared for some of the worst cases of "millennial writing" in history, jokes that are unbelievably cringe and some of the worst voice acting I've heard
But the gameplay is good and hat kid is cute.
It is not bad ,feel like a modern classic. May be a little a too cutesy tho.
I’ve played a Hat in Time. Where was a trans flag?
@@missrebel634 Last time I checked it was in the... sewer? I don't remember exactly but I think it was somewhere disgusting which is really weird because you would think that a tranny developer adding their flag into the game they would put it in a place where it is respected but no they put it in the damn sewer
The amount of people who screech about bigotry and bias who then turn around and vomit bigoted abuse at people or groups their hivemind has given the greenlight to hate is truly contemptible.
Just look at all the anti Russian sentiment from them
Say it with me “If they didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards”
@@dennismenace8970 FR, I believe most Russians dislike Putin and don't want a war with Ukraine, but now its totally okay to shit on any Russian because they're “complicit”. Except they would literally be flogged if they ever spoke up against the oligarch, so I really can't blame them for worrying about themselves and their families first rather than taking the chance getting gullaged so western white cunts feel marginally better when they check Twitter than go back to mouth breathing.
@@garbearfar1394 I'm not even sure they dislike him, after all, they keep allowing him to re-elect himself.
@@garbearfar1394 What in the hell are you talking about. The only sentiment I've been hearing on the left is that Putin is bad but Russians are fine
Wait, open worlds feel empty? I'd say *cities* in games feel empty because they've lacked crowds until recently but the country side? Nah.
Maybe it's because I grew up outside a city but forests, meadows and such actually look empty because they're no people and animals are really good at hiding from us.
It's part of why I thought BOTW had such an immersive world. Long stretches of just random animal sounds with the occasional critter scampering out of your way. It really made me feel nostalgic because that's exactly how I remember roaming the country was.
His argument sort of works since he's comparing it to previous Zelda games
Tbh that's why shigeru miyamoto made LoZ 1 in the first place. He wanted to re-experience exploring the countryside like he did in his childhood.
@@TheSoldierChristian That'd beautiful, a beautiful reason for creating a beautiful game franchise
There's a difference between being alone and being lonely.
How do you "buy" Best of the Worst? RLM sellout?
Miyazaki has achieved his greatest work. This feels like everything he ever wanted.
With all the fetishes he could ever have inserted in it too
Pretty bold statement to make.
While I like Elden Ring, and I mean really like it, it lacks the same level of consistency as something like Bloodborne or Sekiro. Once you hit the Altus Plateau the game's quality and execution begin to rapidly deteriorate. Areas become more sparse, hp pools balloon, and enemies are either recycled in an illogical manner (one of those erdtree spirits spawning in the middle of a street or Astel popping up again) or overused to the point of exhaustion.
Considering the game's scale and potential resource restrictions (it was made somewhere alongside Sekiro) the game is nothing short of impressive. However, I wouldn't call it Miyazaki's best work. It fits somewhere in the "working things out category", alongside DS3 and Demon Souls.
@@spnked9516 On the subject of the Erd tree spirit, it fell onto the streets of the CAPITAL OF THE ERD TREE. Ofcourse there would be one there.
Well, it's no Dark Souls 2, but I guess he tried.
Nah not yet. I still don't see any giant gun's, giant robots, or over boosting. He's not done.
Homestly, it's not even the obvious envy from these developers that bother me, it's the lack of common professional courtesy to fellow developers in your field of work.
Same what those deves did is just childish like its artistic field they should be happy for the successes of other devs
@@addex1236 No, it's a _business_ field. An industry.
They haven't respected their consumers for years is it really surprising they don't respect their competitors?
@@UnitSe7en that is also correct however we aren't talking the company men of the industry were talking the creators i.e. the artisans just because YOU cant comprehend that both of those exist doesn't mean im wrong don't correct people when you clearly don't know what the fuck your talking about
This industry has no standards and this is a sterling example. Imagine squeenix shitting on something like the last of us or rise of the tomb raider
Everything can be summed up into jealousy, gitgud, and cope
normally they ass pat each other for their successes, but when it comes to From Software they have visceral hate.
@@keithfilibeck2390 they can't even succeed in a game 🤣
*TKO!*
XD
Copium
"Getting good is fun."
It really is. I remember my first time playing Breath of the Wild and I accidentally stumbled upon a Lynal about 10 or so hours into my playthrough and I got absolutely wrecked over and over and over again. I went away, come back once a little stronger and better equip but still kept getting my ass handed to me. But through trial and error, figuring out its attack pattern, when to counter etc I finally triumphed over it and I uncontrollably jumped out of my chair in joy. There is seriously no greater feeling than overcoming a challenge.
What in the fuck color Lynel were you fighting? By the time I ran into my first one I was able to pull out a victory through intelligent thinking. By the time I ran into a Silver/Blue Lynel I was trashing them.
1000% THIS
@@dylancross1039 some people are too intimidated when they first encounter a Lynel to try and beat it
Im talking from experience
Literally better than sex.
Jealous game shills with zero creativity.
"This doesn't follow the Far Cry 3 formula!!!😭"
Hey watch your tone, far cry 3 was pretty fun and silly, the rest of the far cries were shit tier and forgettable in comparison, yes I have played or watched the rest of them and they are indeed shit and 3 will always be the best one. but I don't want every game out there to follow the far cry formula either, journalists are just weak scrubs coping
@@falco5148 yeah but it's still the formula set by far cry three cos that game did it really well and did it (if not actually, funcionally) first.
@@falco5148 they were worse for sure, with fc6 going too woke and takimg out the skill tree and the relatively good xp system (the biggest fuck up they could have made in my opinion, as I loved trying to secretly take over the enemy bases, and farming kills on the roads to get a new skill I wanted to try, but now I can just walz in, kill everything with whatever grenadelauncher or unsuppressed lmg, and there is no reward or punishment for playing the one man army). at least in fc5 you could kill americans and the dlcs were ok and in fc4 you had some ok gameplay, good dlc and the gyrocopter.
so yes, they got progressively worse, and after fc6 I won't pay for another one until they get their heads out of their asses and either improve or make something fun.
not to mention trying to make the fc6 leader a "fascist" when he clearly does everything the woke lefties want to do and the left would do if in power ... so at least it very openly showed the complete removal from reality that the leftists live in.
@@falco5148 farcry 3 is fucking amazing no doubt, I still listen to its main theme to this day :D
The real crime with western developers acting like Elden Ring's design philosophy is somehow alien and wrong... is that it demonstrates they've failed to learn basic development lessons that western games had already mastered.
Consider the minimalist HUD of the original Thief games. Consider the lack of handholding in the original Baldur's Gate games, or Planescape: Torment. Consider the masterful zero-tutorial intuitive design philosophies of the original Doom games. Consider the "Go anywhere, do anything, kill anyone, it's all on you" attitude of Morrowind. Hell, even look at the post-Doom shooters; look at Unreal and Half-Life, dumping your voiceless character in a sprawling world, where everything was taught environmentally.
But then of course, these games were the products of small teams that by modern standards would be considered "indie". Nothing good ever came of these teams expanding massively, and having their creative decisions interfered with by publishers.
And now, in true young-people fashion, a new generation of developers have come along who think they "know" how things "should be", because they finished their first year at university and read a book, and can quote some theorist. And when they see the older ways, the better ways, demonstrated and liked by the playerbase... they throw a tantrum and call the old ways "outdated" to hide the fact that they don't know how to recreate those better techniques, and don't want to admit their own ignorance and incompetence.
As for all the theorising about the left and right and its relationship with games... it's all a smokescreen. Game development is nowhere near as subjective or esoteric as people think; it's mechanical. It is engineering. It's not magic. It's art, but art in the true sense - of skill, not pretentious magic - art, not "Art".
Even this idea of "game feel" - there's already an actual term for that, if the pretentious theorists would bother to do some research outside their field. It's called proprioception - it is your body's awareness of its own position and movement in the world, and it is extended to anything you are holding or controlling. When you drive a car, when you ride a bike, when you wield a tool; your sense of proprioception extends to the thing you're controlling, in order for you to correctly interpret its movement, because it is tied to your movement. The thing is - it's literally just this. It doesn't make you magically empathize with the tool; it doesn't make you magically assume the moral and ethical values of the tool... it is literally just a mechanical process by which you map the physical boundaries and conditions of the tool to your own sense of personal space/movement awareness, because it is attached to you.
I digress, but this is what I hate the most about left-wing theorists; they think they're inventing things, when all they're doing is misinterpreting things that have already been studied, named and reasoned out.
The worst part is that they act as if anyone who disagrees is inferior and wrong. Bunch of condescending pricks.
Worst part is that one as a designer, or as a creative job all together should sit down and try to comprehend why this things work, but the new wave of "avant-garde" bullshit art from people who don't want to study is just too many to count, any type of creative job has the same pipeline, observe, understand, replicate, this a lot of times so later on you can judge what you know and finally start mixing things up from the things you understand thus making new things.
But that is a basic i wouldn't expect a mf from ubisoft to know, For Honor, one of the most interesting games they have made has a terrible UI.
Progressivism is a regressive ideology that reacts aggressively to the notion that they are making things worse lol
Remember when Shadow the Hedgehog showed up in a lowrider cadillac with a gun? Those were the days.
Ow The Edge
@@kennethleo4471 better edge than no teeth at all.
@@lolbuster01 I'll take bismuth levels of edge over the technocrat mandated limpwristedness we are drowning in today.
@@KageMinowara remember the edge that was Postal and Hatred.
@@lolbuster01 I reveled in that magnificent edge.
I got 100% achievements in this game because it's just so fun to play and they weren't as hard as DS3 achievements. What a great game
I kinda wish they were as hard, or that there were seperate "all trinkets/swords/spells/whatever" achievements :(
I just beat Ranalla. I'm just running around leveling up exploring
@@DissyFanart I wish there were more like "clear all evergoals" or "clear all tree sentinels"
@@riceplatter8102 Yep, exploring is just so fun to do, no reason to rush achievements tbh
DS3 achievements were easy compared to DS2
The funniest thing about that Gearbox dev's tweet is that they're absolutely correct. Hell. I wanted to know who the hell Zanzibar was and his relationship to the boss from that Tweet! By not spoon feeding the player and forcing them to discover the story on their own, it not only drives player engagement, but allows the player to focus only on the things they find interesting.
He tried to roast them, but ended proving why this style of writing works.
Outer wilds (not outer worlds) does the same thing . It has no npc or directive story , it just lets you loose to discover whatever peaks your interest
It's like horror movies; don't show the monster. Or Lost, which once it actually started resolving its mysteries turned to dogshit (but also needed to cool it with trying to make constant bizarre mysteries seem critically important.) A player or watcher or reader's curiosity and imagination will tell a far more interesting story than you can 9/10 times in media like this. Don't jerk people around by making everything seem like something they NEED to solve, but don't spoon feed people answers to every question either. Sometimes, sure, give people a real answer so they can feel the satisfaction of solving a mystery. Sometimes though, a story you can tell in one paragraph or one sentence that would have no emotional impact whatsoever can seem deep and tragic and interesting when you only catch glimpses and never get the whole answer. "Maincharacterguy promised Zanzibart, his old commander, he'd die at home in his bed" is the blandest way of getting the emotions across possible and will completely fail at that goal. The MC saying "Zanzibart, forgive me" when he dies, and maybe finding "the grave of Zanzibart" or something and saying something like "Commander, you didn't fulfill your side of the bargain" doesn't actually explain directly what the fuck is happening but it HAS EMOTIONAL IMPACT. You can and should flesh it out much more than I just half-assedly did but it makes it feel like a world that people actually live in and that makes you much better able to immerse yourself. In real life people don't walk up to you and say "My parents didn't love me so much as the idea they had of me, and that's why I'm cruel to my friends, because that was the only way I could get their attention and I don't want my friends to get bored of me and leave me behind." The way these game designers design games they'd absolutely have someone you practically just met say that shit apropos of virtually nothing, and then a fucking giant arrow pops up pointing out the exact location of their parent's residence in Ohio where you, in a five minute chat, can convince them that they were wrong, they call their child, and years of emotional trauma are somehow magically resolved.
I learned more lore from random easter eggs in Breath of the Wild than playing any of the previous main line LoZ games.
@@joseph1150 i learned more lore (and other stuff, like not walking into deathclaw promontory) from my first 20 hours in fallout nv (i didnt even visit goodsprings until 30+) than i did from getting 100% completion on both of the TLOU games.
@@angrydragonslayer How could you subject yourself to TLOU2? Good god that game is absolute shit.
Modern game devs don't make games anymore, they make "experiences" now. Miyazaki committed the capital sin of making an actual "game" which centers on merit as a central quality of it's player base. Merit is hated by leftists. That's the reason they are trying to criticize him, not the crap they claim.
It also helps that Miyazaki's game isn't trying to save the rainforest or comment on inequality for women or something.
The worst part is the two aren't even mutually exclusive as proven by From Soft games ironically enough, but Wokists just hate fun so they pigeonhole themselves and everyone else into this BS false dichotomy between a game and an experience.
Personally, I wouldn't even call a lot of the AAA sludge an "experience". Most of them are a Money Spending Simulator or "The Message" wrapped up in explosions. It feels less like something designed to be immersed in and more something to clap about and forget.
@@RangerRobin0404 they're a lower class of dopamine trigger than bath salts.
I *wore out* multiple copies of the original two Fallout game disks. I've owned the newer ones (save 76) and haven't played New Vegas or 3 in years. I only still play 4 because of modding it to hell. Even then no matter what I do *nothing* changes
@@nicholashodges201 Dopamine: that's the perfect word honestly. Push a button and get instant gratification.
@@RangerRobin0404 that one's always blown my mind. Just the thought that no matter what your poison, you're really just hooked on dopamine.
Sugar's the nastiest example of this, I think. It's pure energy, one of the few almost truly universal "likes" and give a *massive* disproportionate dopamine boost each time you TASTE it. So they put into almost every processed food
Japanese dev: we hope you enjoy playing our game, we tried our best
Western dev: we are better we know best and everyone else is wrong
I noticed probably 15 or so years ago that we have this strange epidemic of everyone getting a job doing the one thing in the world that they are worst at doing.
The whole "Japanese style of storytelling" the guy's trying to describe is something I've mused on for quite a while, probably dating back to when I found something similar in Cowboy Bebop and wasn't 100% sure of the full narrative being depicted thru flashbacks, but still got the gist and was really taken in and invested in the story. Essentially the long and short of this type of writing is that it gives enough of the core components of a story explicitly, without explaining it in great detail, such that your brain fills in the blanks intuitively and *the story becomes as good as your imagination is*
Which might explain why brainlets on twitter think it's bad
Edit: Yes, I'm aware the style exists outside of Japan, hence the air quotes. My example being anime was incidental.
Makes sense. They have the imagination level of crabcakes. No wonder they hate it.
Since when has that been the "Japanese style of storytelling"
Nah. Story must break it's back to explain every detail to me and give away the mystery and not challenge my world view (reaffirming it preferably) or story bad.
While this manner of storytelling can be fantastic, let’s not pretend it can’t also be bad - taken to extremes you get stories with their heads so far up their own ass they confuse inscrutability with quality, in much the same way as some devs after Dark Souls became popular confused difficulty with quality.
That is totally not a Japanese style of storytelling, is just a different type of story telling (It can even be considered the oposite of most animes and mangas).
Miyazaki once said that he wanted to replicate the feeling when he was young and watched movies and didn't understand everything but he caught bits of story anyway, that is just another type of storytelling that has been used by many autors and is so iconic in the Soulslike games.
I just want to add that the dungeons ARE marked on the map. Everything in the world is drawn on the map before you discord it and get the icons added. You just need to look at the art of it carefully.
Every little cave full of weapon ugrades is drawn. The entrances to the Rivers, the Mage towers, the towns, the shaks, the horizontal tombstones to jump up or down cliffs. It's all drawn on there. And the locations of the maps themselves are visible through the fog once you step into a zone.
The game doesn't tell you this, but anyone with eyes can see it.
I wish we could zoom in a bit more and open the map even in combat ... but yes I agree with you.
@@MrFallenone why would you want to open map in combat? Sounds like a death sentence to me.
@@shira_yone Probably because you want to open the map but a dragonfly 5km away is angry at you so you're technically fighting.
I remember an n64 tank game where the plot was fighting other tanks to death in an arena to win the last woman on earth.
The map is fantastic in the game! Not only is it beautiful as it is, but as you say, it teaches you to recognize details on the map and once you figure out what it all means it becomes extremely easy to find new areas to explore. It’s fantastic.
I am shocked I haven't seen a lot of outrage articles about Jack Garland from FFO
He is a white male hetero protagonist who is straight from the 2000s, he is gruff and rude and edgy and saves the girl and is "toxicaly masculine" to the nth degree and he is representing one of the biggest most popular gaming series of all time. (just btw I love Jack, he is the best)
I think it's because of the whole CHAOS meme thing that happened. People can't take it seriously enough to complain. Also, everyone's sleeping on Stranger of Paradise because of Elden Ring. They picked a horrendous time to release the game. While it's not quite Souls like, it's close enough since it's from team Ninja (Nioh). Action combat and tough enemy design. Combat is fantastic , really really good IMO. Graphics are an utter let down though.
It's quite amusing how Jack and FFO went from being Chuuni-cringe to the embodiment of the sigma grindset.
I suppose the difference was intent. As far as everyone knew, the edginess we saw in the reveal trailer was unintentional, but by the following trailers and demos, it was absolutely intentional and the writers went all the way into it.
@@EntertheFray1 I'm one of the few who did the opposite SIP just looked more fun to me personally as I'm kinda open worlded out, and been on a bit of a FF kick, but had the bad luck of getting knocked on my ass by a nasty cold right as the game dropped and I don't want first impressions ruined by being sick so i'm trying to get better first. Oh and anyone who dares try to spoil it for me will eaten alive by Slaanesh Daemonettes and that's not an innuendo. Really enjoying gaming this year actually been a nice break from the hellworld life has become with new releases I actually give a shit about and I haven't been disappointed yet.
@@humrH2360 eh
to me, it feels like the game is being genuine and unironic, which i actually really like. it's refreshing to see in a game this gritty, but what else from Square Enix; their JRPGs are always really cool, despite getting made fun of for being ""too cringe"" or ""too anime""
@@lolita_cat ""too anime"" this is bad? oh i see the westerners always talk shit in anime that's why they never play a great JRPGs game like Tale of series.
The things that article writer calls right wing just seems odd. Was Morpheus being "right wing" when he told Neo. 'Theres a difference between knowing the path and walking the path?'
Honestly, i'd say pushing a political message onto something that did not or never did seek to be political is the biggest issue
GTA is right wing because you use guns. 😂😂
It is funny that in this modern push to make things simplified and “””accessible”””” UI has gotten the worst it’s ever been in the past 10 years.
Remember Far cry 2? Remember when a minimalist UI was something to aspire for?
@@saisameer8771 honestly, I dislike both extremes. Minimalist UI for the sake of being minimalist instead of actual thematic or gameplay reason is just as annoying as the ultra intrusive "you have to know everything so we block half of the screen for you" UI. Either one can be done right, but neither is to be aspire for.
Elden Ring did it right.
I miss the days of physical, tactile UI's like Starcraft, Age of Empires and Mechwarrior 2 which made the UI look like a part of the world. At least there are devs who makes games like Highfleet who keep the tradition alive.
The internet is your "easy mode" for this game. If you have troubles, every corner is awash in guides for every aspect. Most OP builds, currency farming, boss strats, etc. It's all easily accessible and free. The only thing you need to bring to the table that's entirely your own is the reflexes necessary to execute on those established strategies. Actual brain engagement can be minimal. Still this is too much for some people. Because in all honesty, the complaints are the point. They've taken their weakness and attempted to morph it into a point of virtue. That's ultimately what turns people against the modern left. It's all just weakness turned to moral superiority and virtue, and it's just disgusting.
I mean before the latest patch where they nerfed it all you needed was to get one summon (the mimic) and you win any fight you can summon in on 1st try unless you die on purpose.
I felt kind of bad for the Boss getting hit for 6400 damage in 5 seconds not even getting more than two phase 2 attacks in LOL.
Yeah but western devs who've complained about this, and game journos, don't want Easy mode they want GodMode.
That "weakness as strength" thing depends on one thing: decent people listening and taking them seriously. I am happy to say that is happening less and less. There is cause for optimism, if you are open to it.
"They've taken their weakness and attempted to morph it into a point of virtue. That's ultimately what turns people against the modern left. It's all just weakness turned to moral superiority and virtue, and it's just disgusting."
Could not have said it any better.
@@thedungeondelver they want journalist mode imo
Western devs cry that game design must be an exact formulaic science to maximise profit and appeal to the lowest common denominator. Japanese devs do what they want and create masterpieces in the process.
Somehow I think they skipped Game Design 101 and MDA.
Games are ment to be fun, and fun can fit into a category, but these catogories and type of people that enjoy them can and tend to come at the expense of one another.
That is why, when a game tries to appeal to the most people, it often appeal to none of them.
Wokeis Devs try to make someting for everyone and it feels cheap, shallow and stale. Japanese Devs know what type of game experience they what to make, and who it targets, and that's why they hit the mark of their target audience 8 times out of 10. The wokies just hate the concept of "Target audience" cuz it means it wasn't made for everybody.
Japanese devs also invented Waifu Gacha Games, which puts western game dev science to shame :P
@@paulscott88 and the west answerd with the Lootbox, that does not even gives you a good looking PNG, but random stuff you really don't need.
And then came the chinese (MiHoyo / Hoyoverse) with their 0.6% drop rate...
Japan isnt seen as a main global superpower, so politics isnt as center staged vs places like the US or Canada. Riot is owned by China now, and it follows its own influences compared to how league of legends used to run in its earlier years. I personally dont understand the comparison of western game devs to places like Japan, or even nordic countries because they arent involved in the globalist rat race. Politics are a huge factor when it means hundreds of millions of people would be consuming entertainment.
The same people that will tell you if you don't like their ideas, you can leave but, if you tell them that the games aren't for them then ,"ItS GaTeKeEpInG". ITS SO FUCKIN ANNOYING. We have to change because you don't want to learn the rules of the game. I honestly get why people 'gatekeep' because they're sick of unwanted people in their communities trying to tell them that their rules are wrong. Im passionate about this because these are OUR games and OUR community and the majority is willing to help each other and newcomers get through it and enjoy the experience. Yeah, we know the games aren't perfect and can be janky but, those are issues that are handled within the community and is understood.
As you said before dev, they want to come in, destroy the community, and move to the next thing. I'm happy the developers are not falling to the pressure.
Remember when we used to get made fun of for liking what we liked? Anime, video games, comic books, etc etc? Then it suddenly became popular? It never did. It was a systematic psyop in order to take control of us because we are a libertarian or even a based community. They need to control everything and indoctrinate everyone in every way. 🤷🏼♀️ the people that are trying to change our stuff aren't into it, they are useful idiots for the globalist regime
"It's time to gatekeep the gatekeepers!" - Razorfist
They hate Japanese devs especially because it's harder to infiltrate and influence their decision, hopefully they'll never fully succeed but we've seen cracks so don't let your guard down.
Japanese devs are the ones who saved gaming back in the 80s and they are still doing it to this day.
No microtransactions, no money-hungry DLC, no bare-bones campaign to push multiplayer, no handholding, no in-game shop, pretty maidens, epic bossfights, touch grace, get gud, death, defeat, rebirth, retry until you triumph. No taste so sweet as victory. And that's why ER is genuinely good.
Ubi, EA, and co, are ya taking notes? Because if you aren't, you deserve to go the way of the dodo.
Even better, they release an arena for free and just announced a proper story DLC a year after the game came out
I think there's a simple factor here that's going unmentioned:
Since Elden Ring famously doesn't hold your hand, it invites investigation and discovery, and this invites discussion online, and this all has a snowballing effect which results in 12 million people playing and talking about the game. It's the same sort of phenomenon P.T. had, where practically no one will successfully complete the game in a vaccuum.
The Ubisoft model of games that tell you exactly what you need to do is _completely_ at odds with this, so it can _never_ have this sort of cultural impact.
The "this wasn't made for you" crowd sure whines a lot when something isn't for them
The scoffing and looking down their nose attitude of these western devs towards japanese devs is shockingly rude, and enragingly revealing
Plants vs Zombies being a pipeline to alt right border control really caught me off guard 🤣🤣🤣
Defending your home is a right wing thing then
Man I can't belive i played border control since i was 3.
Watching people get filtered out was, and has been, pretty entertaining.
The game has the skill ceiling and if you don’t like it, you can leave.
I’ve also been watching the queefdumbTV drama: He poked a nest of hornets and was very surprised that they came out to stung him.
🎩
🐍no step on snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
Would you be willing to give a cliff notes of the queefdumb situation? I don't have a lot of time to dive into it and I would so love to have another idiot to laugh at.
@@mastersheff37
Necro XIII did stream on it.
The rundown is basically a Console/TV reviewer tried Elden ring and didn’t want to play it because he “died too much.”
Mischief, a 16-year-old Memester, made a video making fun of the dude and queefdumbTV threatened to copyright strike him.
Which led to a copious amounts of malding via a bunch of videos.
I recommend watching that stream to get the whole story but yeah.
Sorry if I seem pedantic, but I think you mean skill floor. There is a minimum level of skill and awareness the game demands of you (which in my opinion isn't all that high). I think a ceiling would be an upper limit to the skill required to play the game, which no hit/speed-runners disprove the existence of.
The funniest part is that if you just explore the game isn't even hard.
@@Leon_Sullivan The skill of lemmings is below the floor. It's why they want everyone to be "equalized" into misery.
I’m no Soulslike pro, but Elden Ring is definitely gonna be one of my favorite games of the year. Level 93 and counting!
Keep it up man i hope you have hundreds of hours of fun to count
I usually don't like games where I'll die a thousand times in trail and error but this game is so beautiful I might have to get it.
It's not like the game is trying to bait and switch. It is very honest of what the player should expect.
And narcissists REEEEEing is always good advertising.
You can make the game easy for yourself if you play a certain way. Like using ashes(NPC summons) or going for certain overtuned weapons and abilities.
Souls games are as hard as you make it.
Yeah, there are items and weapons scattered throughout the world that will allow you to make things significantly easier on yourself. Hell, early on you can get a sword that shoots lasers and is clearly meant for the late game, but it's in an unguarded treasure chest where nothing's really stopping you from killing early-game bosses in three hits.
Just make sure to put your first few points getting to 20ish Vigor and you should be fine. When a boss feels like it's far above your current ability, it may be a clue to go exploring and doing other things for a while.
@@OniGanon That's actually an extremely important detail I learned more recently, dumping points into a stat only makes the weapon damage marginally better because instead most of the damage from your weapon is going to come from upgrading your weapon; having a weapon that requires 10 Strength means you only need 10 in Strength, and then you can dump the rest of your EXP into Vigor.
At least, early on; the soft cap on Vigor is around 40 from what I've been told so you should dump points into that to avoid getting one-shot AND THEN start putting points into your other stats.
Unless you're trying to be a glass cannon mage, I guess.
5:23 To be fair: Phil did later clarify what he really meant when he said that, and there were Japanese developers that agreed with what he said at the time. Konami was transitioning from old classic game-producing Konami to crappy only-pachinko Konami. Squaresoft and Capcom barely did anything for a few years. Clover hadn't yet properly resurrected as Platinum. Taito and Hudson Soft and a lot of smaller classic developers had been eaten up and then forgotten. SNK hadn't revived yet, and almost didn't. Sega weren't in a complete slump, but they weren't doing great and Nintendo... was in the middle of the Wii U. The entire Japanese games market, *at the specific time* Phil said it sucked, as a whole absolutely did suck.
Phil has said some indefensible things, but this is actually the greatest insight he's ever said publicly. He said it in a really shitty way when he was put on the spot, but he wasn't wrong about at-the-time-recent Japanese games sucking. Just, in general, completely sucking. Because at that time he was 100% right. Compared to how things are now, it's hard to believe the Japanese game industry was ever that bad. But it was, and Phil just called it like it was. Now please, please stop making me defend the cowardly troll who hypocritically cancelled Fez 2 just because he couldn't handle being trolled himself.
When you put it like that it sounds like Phil really hard time explain it, I don't know why he didn't just try to put it in detail, if so a lot of that backlash wouldn't happen. I don't know who Phil Fish is as a person, looking at the conversation surrounding him it looks like he doesn't have a lot of social skills and has a lot of mental issues, this behavior seems to predate before the development of FEZ. That and it's he's become bitter due to his past experiences hence the reason why he engaged in a lot of shady shit seeing it was the only way to make a real profit and anything legit was impossible. A lot of mentally ill people with a lot irritability and are bitter tend to justify the bad actions and lash out at any criticism. I do pity him a lot.
You give that hipster too much credit. If he was partially right, then only by accident.
well..
Ni No Kuni, Dragons Dogma, Persona 4, Fire Emblem awakening, Animal Crossing, Pikmin 3, DmC, FF14 realm reborn.
Compare it to AC3 or ME3 and I don't think you can say there's such a massive difference in quality
@@16m49x3
Man, Ninja Theory, the developers of DmC, actually had a pretty great redemption arc on improving their game. They actually listened to their fans about what held the game back from being consistently fun to play and applied improvements in later patches which are also available in the Definitive Edition based on the feedback. So much so that the good folks at Capcom just integrated those improvements in the Special Edition of DMC4 (primarily Vergil's playstyle) because the improved mechanics in the Definitive Edition of DmC were that fantastic.
It's okay man, even a broken clock is correct twice a day. Just because someone said something correctly once doesn't mean he's the avatar or righteousness, being correct once in a ten question test doesn't make you pass the test.
Its amazing cause while I don't think games inherently push people right I think when you combine them with media out right telling people there bad for liking video games defiantly dose its a self fulfilling prophecy
While I don’t think games push people to be rightoids, I DO think that many games instill an appreciation for hard work, skill, mechanical analysis, and strategy. Just like how some games can instill an appreciation for visual art, music, or character writing.
I think that, generally speaking, hardcore gamers will develop an appreciation for skills that are valued by traditional conservatives. Meanwhile, less hardcore gamers who enjoy narrative only experiences will probably develop an appreciation for what is valued by more liberal types.
@@ImortalZeus13 the problem with what your saying is that games are not hard work they are games playing games dose not instill the value work working hard dose some offense but the idea that playing games can you make you a better persons needs to die. Real life experience is what makes someone or breaks someone
all the alt right types of people ive met were hardcore gamers i definitely think theres some sort of weird connection that can take place
@@killroy.99 on both sides of the political spectrum those that fall into the extreme ends are people who putting it bluntly are socal isolationist losers that's why there so devoted because what ever end the fell into accepted them so yah your going to find alt right gamers and hell most game journalists are the left equivalent. And Yah most game journalists are infact video game fans but that's not topic of conversation.
TLDR when both political extremes have the same hobby I don't it it s true to say it pushes people to either. End
@@addex1236
Video games don't inherently make you a good or bad person, but they can still be contributing factors to who you become later in life. If you want evidence, look at other forms of media and think about how often you hear people say that watching [movie], [TV show], or [book] growing up taught them about certain values or worldviews. Media in general allows us to explore certain concepts we might never have been able to on our own, and videogames are one of the most interactive forms of media we have right now; it's just that video games have this stigma surrounding them where people outright dismiss the idea that they can be as influential as movies or books.
Seeing this game being enjoyed by so many people, makes me really happy!
Same man, I'm really glad this game is doing well.
I’m surprised anyone pays attention to the “industry” in gaming anymore since GamerGate. Including Dev. They are all just selling shit, they aren’t culture.
My favorite thing about the MK thing, they still kept sexualizing the men. So ridiculous.
At some point, can people just ask themselves "Why do I care about Twitter users opinions " ?
I guess because twitter attitudes (formerly tumblr) get into positions of power and it is helpful to know how they work.
Yeah I zoned out so much but I still somehow watched the entire video. Multiple times during this video my brain went "stupid twitter garbage bleh" so now I don't even remember what the video was about. Whenever I see someone pulling out twitter screenshots it's my brains automatic response to want to turn off cuz I know what's coming(and to protect my last functioning brain cells from further harm). I'm sure this video was interesting for those that paid attention but I sure didn't. -_ ( : 3) _-
As mushy as this sounds, I do think that putting love in the game, making a game because of love for the craft is how good games are made. A good example of this is my main gacha squeeze Arknights. Not only is the game idea of a gacha tower defense very intuitive and unique, but the sheer amount of variance of events is astounding (such as Contingency Contract, Multivariate Cooperation, Integrated Strategies, Interlocking Competition, etc), addition of new mechanics like elemental damage, Great and genre diverse music, Game devs kinda nerding out when Arknights collabed with Rainbow Six Siege, Donating money during the Arknights spring gala, essentially a stream that features content by fans (kinda like the Genshin one). Like, there's just so much passion put into the game, its definitely a top tier Chinese gacha.
Okay so I've gone to the point where they're complaining about having to go to the equipment tab in order to equip new armor. are they forgetting that Skyrim had like a different tab for weapons and armor? you had to go to equipment then you had to go to apparel to equipped armor or you have to go to the equipment tab and then go to the weapons tab or maybe I've been playing games a hell of lot longer then these ass hats have been Devs.
Remember when quest lists were welcomed because it meant we didn't have to write everything down and stress out when we lost out notebook on what we were doing? Yeah. How naïve we were. Quest lists are no longer a tiny convenience to the player to make sure that they don't forget everything, they've become blinders for you to experience what the developers want in the way they want it.
"I cant get myself to try most Japanese games"
Did... did you only start gaming in the last 10 yrs or som... oooh
Ooooh. Oh.
I'm old :(
This industry has no standards if other developers are attacking a game because its not like how they make it. I remember when everyone applauded ghost of tsushima, which was effectively a palate cleanser for that last of us fanfic sequel.
Also this industry is maidenless. Tut.
What else can you expect from the people who don't level vigor?
@@robrib2682 Well they sure leveled dexterity because they are some yuge fa-
*this comment has been deleted for use of gamer words*
Keep in mind, these are wokelings. What would a wokeling do without someone holding their hand? They are lemmings.
Funnily enough... since a lot of these people lean towards a planned socialist economy, I can see how elden ring's unguided would inherently go against a more "plannist" mindset.
@@TheSoldierChristian Creativity itself is something they oppose. It's why they hate character creation. They lack the ability to create.
@@sik3xploit they don't believe in "creativity". They've never outright said it and never will. But one of the cores of their philosophy is the concept of "Tabula Rasa" which essentially precludes most of what we consider creative thought. They fully believe that almost nobody is actually capable of it, so they don't even try
@@nicholashodges201 They only take what's already been created and end up leaving it in ruin.
@@sik3xploit which is a *feature*, not a bug.
Read some Marcuse. It's a slog, but that @$$hole is the one who laid out their philosophical blueprint in the late 60's. It really explains a *lot* of the stupidity we've been inundated with lately.
So this is what happens when an artist/passionate creative succeeds while a mediocre "worker" doesn't. From Software, and Japanese games in general, have something the west is losing daily: Drive, passion, and competition. Western game studios became so complacent that they just stopped improving and took their audience and customers for granted. They deserve their failures.
Miyazaki is a genius and a genuinely good person.
No wonder leftists hate him.
Communists have always hated exceptional people.
@@Snakedude4life It goes completely against their ideology of bland souless mediocrity.
Many leftists love Soulsbourne games... I am one of them. Hhbomberguy, notable leftist content creator, has created some really good analysis of those games. You guys don't really know what leftism generally is or can be. You all consume boring and trite anti sjw shit which stopped being novel or interesting seven years ago.
The problem isn't leftism. The problem is laziness, focus group tested design. The lack of making art.
@@redmarble5624 When we say "leftists", we mean deranged identitarians and communist subversives who believe everything must fit their politics, not normal human beings who just happen to hold left leaning views.
I apologize for the confusion.
@@redmarble5624 Yup. It's literally the natural consequences of capitalism (aka monopolies that dont need to try anymore) and the anti-SJW crowd still tells itself its the fault of the left
It’s rare I ever hear people talk about Lacan, I’m really surprised I don’t hear progressive people say his name more since it was such a driving force in French feminism and I see his ideas in feminism today. IE girls wearing “raise boys and girls the same” shirts
It’s cathartic to hear someone outright say fuck that guy too
...I will NEVER buy another Borderlands game again. Writer has no right talking smack when your story consists of fart jokes and pop culture references.
Edit: You don't have the right, O you don't have the right
Therefore, you don't have the right, O you don't have the right
Randy Pitchford is a very shady guy, in general. I haven't given Gearbox any money since Borderlands 2.
This is what you get when you allow big business to brainwash people for a decade or three.
These people have been hammered by corporate execs about "accessibility" and "broad market appeal" for so long that they genuinely believe a game can't be good if it doesn't smush your face into the quest objective or bash you over the head with "hidden" dungeons on a constant basis.
To them, if you can miss a piece of content, it's a design flaw and not a nifty little secret for dedicated or lucky players.
They're not of the generation that hid secrets on Tomb Raider maps people spent hours trying to find, they're of the generation of devs that think you should get a glowing zip line to the quest objective and an annoying fairy that yells at you if you turn in the wrong direction for more than 15 seconds because if the game doesn't have that, someone, somewhere, might be discouraged from giving them money.
They've been expertly trained to disdain making a modest game to please a niche audience immensely in favour of making a bland, Triple A (TM) experience that's inoffensive, mediocre and sure to not aggravate anyone, even if that means it's not getting anyone excited, either.
They hate Japanese games because a lot of them go in hard on a specific target demographic and implement or omit features based on what they think that target audience may like. They'd *like* the COD audience, but if they can only get them at the expense of the existing audience, they're good.
I like how these devs got petty and jealous over Elden Ring's success instead of proud and excited that something which should have been risky and niche managed to break the mold and become so successful. Something that can inspire companies to take more risks and perhaps leave behind some of gaming's more toxic aspects like predatory lootboxes, unfinished games, microtransactions in full priced games, or taking content out of games and repackaging it as dlc.
If a game isn't constantly jingling keys in their face to hold their 5-second attention span, then it's problematic.
I think that games are anti-extremism in general, both left and right. How often do games push left wing messages and mechanics like environmentalism, anti-war, and rebellion against the status quo?
Which is another reason why the far left hates games so much. Hardcore Christians don’t hate atheists nearly as much as they hate other Christians for being “heretics”. Communists don’t hate liberals nearly as much as they hate other communists. And the French don’t hate Germans and Americans nearly as much as they hate other Frenchies.
They hate that games come so close to their ideology but refuses to take that final step.
MGSV literally talks about the horrors of war on soldiers, Sekiro (and Dark Souls) is a message on breaking the status quo. Tho they try to artistically tell them, its more on the art than the message but it tells it rather well regardless. Sekiro warns that stagnation leads to rot and disease. Dark Souls warns that continuing the cycle won't help you in the long run.
Leftists rebel against the status quo? ... they LARP against the status quo because they have the support of every major corp in the west
Actually, most games feature some of those messages. From a rhetoric and storytelling perspective, games tend to lean more left than right.
@@dawson3776 Mmhmm. You could throw in FF7, Fallout, Assassin’s Creed, Rachet and Clank and countless others.
@@MEGATONHAMMA oh yea, ff7 definitely has environmentalism in there right out of the gate.
The devs hated each souls game so it makes sense they will bemoan a game that is a combination of all the souls games. I love that "gamers are far right". Don't know about you SFO but I recieved a copy of Evola's "The Bow and the Club" with my special edition of Elden Ring. Now that's real gaming ;)
I keep it next to Uncle Ted’s manifesto.
Description is true, although. I feel it'd be more like you can only buy the Stonesword Keys in bundles and you have to pay just enough of the premium currency where buying the $10 worth of currency isn't enough to buy the bundle, whereas $15 of the currency is too much. Lmao
Kill me.
Political opinions aside, I’m totally with you on what western game development gets wrong. I’ve felt for a long time that modern games aren’t made for me as a gamer (who likes to learn, improve and overcome) but for my wallet. Fundamentally, Elden Rings stripped back approach is actually very refreshing in an open world setting. I have to study the map, learn to recognize certain symbols or patterns and I always get this feeling of: “Oh, I wonder what’s over there” and there’s very little stopping me from checking it out (though surviving the ordeal is absolutely no guarantee). It’s so refreshing to be free from the handholding of other open world games of the last decade or so. While the lack of a quest log was a bit odd at first, I got used to it after a bit and learned to enjoy paying closer attention to their dialogue. All in all, a very refreshing release in a era full of as you said, hot garbage.
The DOA ad sounds hilarious, and so long as the women were happy to do the tongue-in-cheek skit for the ad, it's a win-win situation which completely understands one of the core features that DOA's fans love.
Oh no, the journo’s know that playing Shadow of the Colossus made me a racist!! 😱
And sexist!!!😱😱😱
Like saving the girl. Ew!!!
That article whining about "instincts" vs "drives" is just whining about the difference between making your own choices and caving to peer pressure.
I have never played Dark Souls, but am looking forward to giving this a try. The sheer amount of anger being directed at its success has piqued my interest.
I played a bunch of DS1 2 and 3 and must say that I like Elden Ring way more. I love the open world. Its like DS1 openness but 4x more directions to explore in.
I searched the map carefuly but still missed a TON of content. But that means I can hit it with a second character. Definitely a game with great re-play value IMO.
In skyrim and oblivion, i wanted to go down every tunnel i saw, and i did, till i learned that if anything was worth getting a quest would take me there. Theres no point to explore blindly, because theres usually nothing important. And if there was, i would just wait for the game to tell me to go there.
Seems like elden ring is the complete opposite
Yes and no. Elden Ring has unique reward for every single hidden corner and the quest reward is unique too. The real part is you need learn how to put them into good use and if they fit the build you want. Glass cannon int mage? Bring that dmg negation perfume so you don't get 1 shot mid cast. Chad faith build boi? Bring out that envoy pipe and ashes, you can literally blow a dragon to death. Dex cheeky snipers? Hey there is a pot cannon you can literally snipe through a valley. I-just-want-something-weird? Take the ring finger and show your enemy the power of flickering! There is no such thing as toy in Elden Ring, everything and anything can work if you try to dig into it. While in Skyrim... sorry, all the deadric artifacts are sitting in my museum (Legacy of Dragonborn, great mod I must say) cuz I never use them, not even with Zimmer's Artifacts mod.
Anytime someone references psychoanalyst theory it sets off pretty big alarms in my head. Most of that shit from Sigmund Freud has been debunked. I'm not really familiar with Jacques Lacan or how much of his material has been debunked, though.
Its all just so stories, or pseudoscience, it hasnt been debunked because of the nature of it, its unfalsifiable and unverifiable.
There´s another thing that people are missing with the hate on the Souls-genre.
FromSoft´s game design is the antithesis of everything those lefties stand for. These people despair at every challenge, they´re quite likely to be depressed and miserable. Now there comes a game that symbolizes their entire depressive life filled with challenges all the while they got no idea how to deal with them. These people NEED others to tell them where to go and what to do. Souls games don´t give them that.
Souls Games push a self-improvement design mechanic where you sometimes have to run into walls until they break. Self-improvement "don´t you dare go hollow", "git gud" or whatever you wanna call it triggers these living failures simply BECAUSE they´re already hollow. They have already given up irl and now they look at others succeeding and seeth. Be it in game with people stomping areas that are "too hard" for them or FromSoft that outsells them and their shitty games.
Now a service announcement for the others here: DON`T YOU DARE GO HOLLOW! Leave your sign in the world! Improve yourself and help others improve aswell.
Regardless if it´s to beat some Rot Hoe like Malenia or something challenging Irl. WE`RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT MOTHERFUCKERS
Sad part is - there are quite a few things about the From Software model that could definitely be improved. But instead of doing a good faith critique of it these people throw a hissy-fit because their darling has been overshadowed by something with an actual soul !
I was a hardcore leftist before I played the fuck out of dark souls and applied what I learned to my work ethic.
This is ShortFatOtaku at his best. Great video, Dev.
I played Elden Ring to completion, I was not good at it, but I enjoyed my time with it, because I went in understanding what it is, these people can't comprehend what the vision of Soulsborne games is, as such their ignorance makes them hate it.
Watch Jim sterling video on Elden ring. It’s fu cancer, he literally want fromsoftware to stop making game for their fans and make easier game so everybody would like it, all in the name of inclusion.
wait wasn't he the hero of gaming once because he smoked out bad game practices and lazy gamee devs ?
@@CosmicD he has gone full woke
The dude commenting about Myrmidon and Zanzibart does feel hilariously accurate on a surface level
Myrmidon of Loss? Zanzibart...Forgive me?
What's next? Does Zanzibart forgive him? What exactly did this fanatical warrior lose?
I'm actually intrigued. See? I know he's being a dick, but I see that as interesting writing. Those two lines imply a larger story behind it. If I can find clues and other stuff reinforcing my idea? Or hell, making me reconsider it? Then I feel like I'm being rewarded for paying attention. Sometimes, I like working for my mental treats.
NO the boss HAS to tell you their entire lifes story before the fight or you at least have to find their personal journal that does so. Otherwise its bad game design.
sweet mother of god did a borderlands writer just shit on elden ring's writing? The borderlands writing team is in no position to criticize anyone's writing at all like wtf. Half the dialogue in that game is people screaming nonsequiturs about butts and the other half is fairly middling at best. Guarantee you the hardest part of writing a borderlands script is trying to think up haiku's for zer0's lines.
Yeah, like there are criticisms to make of the vague hints of lore style of "story" Souls games use and have popularized, and especially how that style has been exploited by lazier game writers, but it has no weight coming from writers who's work is mostly just "jokes" of wildly varying quality...
@@RipOffProductionsLLC handsome jack was the only character I can think of who was "well written" and they overused the shit out of him since he was their one good villain. So much of the drama in borderlands is the most basic formulaic stuff around. They take the playable characters of the previous game who you are naturally invested in since you spent dozens if not hundreds of hours playing as them and then they select one or two to be killed off by the villain as a cheap way to make you feel sad. The most effective of this was roland's death but even then it's kinda meh. Telling me you're the writer for borderlands is a bit like telling me you were the art director for tetris 99. The game was never about that so it was completely fine for it to be completely unremarkable which is exactly what it was.
Sonic being about harmony with nature is just the western version of the plot. It's very literal. In japan it is a story about freedom vs control with eggman being an evil authoritarian, the world becomes a brighter and happier place when he's defeated. This is pretty evident if you just listen to sonic's adventure theme. Nothing about the environment in the song, just Sonic's moral code.
I'm a socialist and a gamer who loves engaging in competitive activities. People should discover their strengths and engage in recreational activities that allow those strengths to flourish instead of demanding handicaps when they try to do something they aren't great at. I am a socialist because of the simple fact that letting markets run amok without restrictions has always led to the obliteration of the rights of working class people, the rapid pollution of the environment and the exploitation of third world communities and their resources. Of course everyone shouldn't receive the same paycheck and the government shouldn't wield absolute power, but the poor of the world (who will always be the majority) should have the tools and the means to stand up for themselves because markets are governed by algorithms and algorithms don't care about human suffering. I also think that it's important for us as a society to protect the rights of all people regardless of how they identify themselves, but that the modern left has a tendency to see discrimination where there often is none. This alienates decent, open-minded people from certain demographics who would otherwise be allies and perpetuates false narratives. The point is that games, social psychology and economic practices are very different things and should be held to different standards. "Socialism" is not a blanket term, nor is "woke," and nor is "gamer."
The biggest difference between Japanese game developers and Western game developers is Japanese developers in one way or another will thank you for playing the game while Western developers thank themselves when the game goes platinum.
movie: don't do drugs
people: *do drugs anyways*
Fallout: here are tons of drugs, good luck
people: *try them a ton and end up suffering tons of debuffs and addictions* hm....might not try this in real life
Honestly this exact logic applied to me, but with gambling. I’ve lost so many rounds of video game poker/blackjack/etc, that I’ve realized the dangers of a real-life gambling addiction
I never used the drugs in fallout games, not just becouse I knew the game had addiction and withdrawal mechanics, but the typical "I can't use this consumable item, what if I need it later?" That every RPG player has experienced.
From Soft has never really excelled at/aimed for the things Western Dev's seem to love to develop, which isn't gameplay but "UX" and minutia, I've played every From Software game that has ever released in America, all the way back in the PS1 days, and they are the most consistently evolving companies in the business, as in, they take their core focus, and perfect it, exponentially, Western Dev's don't have the longevity to mine out a niche', the people in that twitter thread won't even be making videogames in 2 years, constantly washout status in the West.
Armored evolved over 10 games and was best in 3 era or the 4 era
The social trend of the west is fixated on, ironically, progress. It makes sense that they chase the "next big thing" attempting to innovate within the industry and not fixate by trying to reinvent the wheel. Japan seems to have risk aversion, which isnt a bad thing, but they socially follow the same pattern outside of game development.
@@LeonBelmont1000 I think your way off, Ubisoft and the other Big western companies are INCREDIBLY strict on following formulas, if you think Last of Us 2 was innovative or new in any way...
@@keithfilibeck2390 Yes or no: was Tlou2 following the same formula as the first game? Strange to make such a blatant contradiction.
A friend of mine couldn't get into Soulslike games because there weren't people out in the world who were just living their lives or not either an enemy, quest giver out for themselves or a merchant and so couldn't see WHO he was saving the world FOR.
Sounds like he got it half right, there is no-one around to “fight for” because you aren’t actually saving the world.
They should try Bloodborne
@@shira_yone Still too dark for him, also if God is someone you have to kill in the game forget about it.
@@Richforce1 Bloodborne was my first From Soft game and to be honest, it (and Elden Ring) are the only ones that got me real hooked. Just like your friend, I really couldn't _get_ into Dark Souls games (even though I play the games with plenty of hours in). The world is too desolate and filled with dread from the start that everything you do felt pointless, I know what it's going for and that's the point but I don't vibe with it on a personal level.
Bloodborne of course can be just as dreadful, but that's not what a first time player would think going through the early parts. There was a glimmer of hope, and you the player is doing an active part on what is going on with the world, unlike the Souls series where everything that matters has already happened in the past and you're just going through the motion without knowing why you're doing it. Hunting beasts as a premise is just a lot more straightforward and understandable fundementally, players naturally intuit that killing beasts = no beast = make the world a better place.
Not to spoil too much, but the notion that I could hopefully help this girl find her mother with a big red brooch made going through this forsaken world a whole lot more motivating. Seeing and talking to people you help by sending them to Oedon Chapel feels pretty nice the first time around.
The beauty of Bloodborne is how it gives you more implicit and explicit purpose plus gradually upping the feeling of dread more gradually throughout the game rather than just dropping it on you straight from the beginning. You knew the situation was bad, but it's almost mystery novel-like in how it reveals how much you didn't know.
@@shira_yone It's more the general theming of the games, he calls them "love letters to nihilism". Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order might be acceptable to him but only wants physical copies of games and he doesn't own a console that lets him play it that way.
4:52 - I honestly prefer the separate inventory and equipment tabs. Imagine if Diablo's UI was like skyrim's UI. That would be one hell of a bad UI experience.
Thats cause you have 2 brain cells(or more) and can plan if you want to change what you have equipped or just look at the items you got.
Ugh. Skyrim's UI is an atrocity. What were bethesda thinking? Theres a reason SkyUI is one of the most downloaded mods ever.
i disagree with the political thing because about 95% of my leftist friends are also huge fans of elden ring
Solid points dude....really dig your style of presentation, it's very cohesive and the examples you give form a really understandable narrative.
...Oh btw if we have to be fair if the setting is "Ancient Greece" having gay relationships is actually not that big of a stretch at the end of the day lol
Bro, Japanese games just hit different. Can't really explain why in technical terms, but those games just have soul. You can feel that the developers cared about the game, the craft, the story and characters while playing. Pretty much the same thing as with like manga vs western comics. They just approach it as an art instead of a business. And you can see how that reflects on the games, like, every Souls game or every Yakuza game improves and the last, get just a little bit better. Meanwhile every new game in a western franchise just feels like it's getting worse on every level, except maybe graphics. There's countless examples of this, like look at that they did to Dragon Age, Mass Effect, AC, CoD, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Battlefield, and it goes on and on.
There's this weird puzzle game, Catherine i think it was called, where you basically just solve some cube puzzles and hang at a bar, it's the weirdest thing I've ever played, but the game just has so much fcking soul, I've never seen anything like it.
Well they've been taught to use their passion to make games sure they want money too thats natural but they also treat their games like art like most western game devs used to
They pin the Asian hate on people of my political standing but they're very much right now being extremely racist to Japanese people. The reason Western game design is failing is their ego, refusing to learn from them and from players who don't want a million UI elements.
I personally hate UI. The less the better, I don't want no UI, but I don't need a minimap, or questlog. I like how in Elden RIng I can pull out my irl journal again and write information I come across down. It adds so much immersion when I have to remember where they told me to go, it's not just in some quest log.
Fool, the Japanese are not asian, they are a fully westernized people, vassalized by the evil USA after being nuked by it.
China is Asia; fact.
I wasnt expecting the horizon dev to hate on elder ring, Horizon is my favorite game and watching a dev hating on a good game for no good reason feels bad.
Elden Ring eclipsed Horizon in sales and popularity, it’s as simple as that.
@@Zeburaman2005 yeah but hating the game because of that makes no sense.
@@brandonfernandezcampos9078 I agree, but petty people rarely operate on a rational level, and virtual spaces like Twitter facilitate and encourage the lowest reactionary behaviours.
F
I think the dev is just bitter this is the second time they released their game just before an immensely successful and popular open world game came out. First it was BotW, now Elden Ring.
Okay so according to that blurb, right wing ideologies are:
I don't want to be invaded
I want to remain clean
I want to establish boundaries
I want to build something great
I want to save women
I want to restore harmony to nature
Am I to assume that left wing ideologies are the opposite of this? As in:
I welcome invasion
I love filth
I hate boundaries
I love squalor
Women can screw themselves
Who cares about nature
Is that supposed to be a good thing? I'm being a bit facetious here but still, I think this is more true than a lot of people are ready for.
thank you for calling me out with “Absolutely Maidenless”
"Stop giving money to people who hate you, give it to me instead"
I still won't use Epic no matter how many free games they throw at me. Fuck them and their degenerate business practices and their crappy service.
I was a little sad that I couldn't get Borderlands 3 when it came out, but it turns out I actually dodged a bullet there. I guess I should thank them for that.
hearing the words "from software" takes me back over 20 years to various armored core games. im still hoping one day we get an armored core for PC
Your wish has come true
It's just like whenever people mock western comics and animation while praising Manga and Anime. They hate the fact that there's a popular competitor that's more or less untouchable that they can't influence with threats of cancelation and crybullying.
Outside of removing gender from the character creator (part of me assumes it was a localization thing), there's no pandering nonsense and the game is extremely fun and popular. It sometimes happens here too, whenever something is propped up against woke garbage. Like when lefties hated Ghost of Tsushima after everyone praised it and mocked Last of Us 2. It just doesn't have the same effect.
The closest they can ever get to influencing things is in cases of localization, where they'll rewrite games and anime to add in cringy pro-woke dialogue, but that's almost always met with controversy.
Comic books are getting SWAMPED by manga and anime, in every metric especially sales. And I reckon a huge reason is because a bunch of woke mouth breathers, who grew up reading og comics, went into comic book writing and force Intolerable amounts of PC, SJW, woke shit into the stories, rather than making a strong character with depth and motivation, they just make superman, again, but teenage and gay now and throw him frenching a dude on the front cover. Manga focuses on the story and characters mainly, sometimes you get to see triple ds bounce around but every story I've ever loved has had little fan service, besides kill la kill lol
Which is why japanese studios are handling localization themselves
I'm really glad so many people are starting to see that Guerrilla obviously changed the model they designed aloy after to Nikocado Avocado
Of course these types are going to dunk on Japanese games because not only are they just better and more popular, but Japanese media as a whole is more popular in America than the recent US made trash. Maybe its also because Japan is pretty based.
They arent experiencing the same inner cultural clashes, so the comparison seems dimwitted imo. There is more uniform ideology in Japan than in the West, could it be that there are parts of a country that share similarities to others despite being in 2 different parts on a planet? Apparently not to you weabs.